This old man is very intelligent. If you like what he says check out my book---30 years in a making---and I give to all at no cost---The Dawn of Intelligence
Search Wildman Walker's blog and click on the link 'book' under the cover picture.
I am a muslim and I %100 follow his logical methodology but I don't share his view of religion that is irrelevant giving the sitution that planet earth is in for the time being
So I may be a bit confused but the video seems to say:
Ignore the past, ignore the stated threat
Accept and do not resist attacks
Because to resist attack or god forbid promote a more enlightened value system would condemn that value system...
And any value system that contains a punishment system is intrinsically bad?
If a man robs a store you are at with your grandchildren you should be ok with the man raping and killing your grandchildren. My value system would have me defend mine.
@desredmon well stated, because few seem to look at things from the point of view that it is one's own 'value system' in appraising a situation. But i think you misunderstand key points. It isn't to ignore the past or a threat-it's HOW we respond that will determine if we attain a short term personal gain, or a long term improvement in society. Jacque speaks about punitive methods as insufficient in dealing with the causes. We should ask what CONDITIONS made the 'crime' ?
@thevenusprojectmedia Ok so I did partly misunderstand. My appologies. However I would hasten to point out that it is a very faulty position to take that in the absence of causal factors humans or any living organism will constrain to the greatest good of any society. (With the potential exception of ducks) That is why our more afluent societies have higher crime and recidivism. Due to the diminution of our justice systems. Hense more strict justice systems have much lower rearrest rates.
I was using the robber metaphorically. I was actually thinking of Bin Laden. If you seek to change the causal factors that must be done before they are set into the value system. Or via the public display of consequence. If the cost of a value is to high it will be lost. Once someone has begun to harm at will, stopping them is necessary. Cessation of a negative value and the cause must go hand in hand. Reduction in cause without cessation is no more effective than punishment alone.
I was using the robber metaphorically. I was actually thinking of Bin Laden. If you seek to change the causal factors that must be done before they are set into the value system. Or via the public display of consequence. If the cost of a value is to high it will be lost. Once someone has begun to harm at will, stopping them is necessary. Cessation of a negative value and the cause must go hand in hand. Reduction in cause without cessation is no more effective than punishment alone.
@desredmon The thing is attacking, simple retribution, is not a solution, it is a temporary patchwork. The root of the problem is the thinking process. Kill a man or woman, and the problems remain. Society has slaughtered so many criminals, heretics, and 'evil' people. What has that done? Nothing. See, they've killed Hitler and now the leaders of today are much worse than Hitler ever was, they have greater weapons and methods of destruction that Hitler never had.
There is an error in your facts. People not killed to prevent further crimes: Ze-dong 50m, Stalin 23m, Hitler 12m, Tojo 5m, etc. People we have targeted: Bin Laden 3500, Al Zarqawi 2000.
Moral of the story?
By stopping either by capture and trial (first choice) or killing (second choice) drastically reducing the harm they cause.
Second point: The leaders of today may have access to more powerful weapons but none have even approached their predecessors’ level of mass murder.
@desredmon What is preferable murder or torture? What will the leaders of today do when they are truly threatened? What are they doing now? The very term mass murder is relative. Killing in a single confined moment of time or prolonging killing and suffering? Although we are engaging in elaboration, I hope we both can agree that man's history and life up until the present day is a tragedy.
You are confused. I've never heard of this speaker until now. I agree with some of what he says, and disagree with some of it. I do find his talk to be interesting, and refreshingly logical. I hope you'll take this as a comment from a person who is neither a fan nor detractor of Jacque Fresco when I say: "I am stunned at the level to which you have misinterpreted virtually everything he said."
The very concept of "Attack" implies a difference in interests and the failure of what we call communication today (if we talk about human society) Jacque Talks about TESTING even your values, given the premise of well being for all mankind Punishment is just a factor that exists in this paradigm (today). How can you improve anything if you don't fail in the first place... even so we need to consider the consequence of our failures in the future.. and get to the ROOT of the problem.
@desredmon I think that based on the situation, if your life is threatened, you must defend or run away. Because you die and this deprives of your right of survival. If your grandchildren are raped, you know that will definitely cause mental and physical damage to your grandchildren, that deprives of your grandchildren's necessity of life, then you act to prevent it. Also, if the situation is avaliable, you should talk to that man, that man acts based on his past experiences
I DONT think this is sustainable however much it is attempted. This is sensible, but idealism. No one wanted to kill Bin Laden until his unacceptable value system led to the blowing up of thousands of people who didnt want to harm anyone. Such values are ancient but deeply entrenched in many people.We could not change people who follow Bin Laden because it is too difficult ; they dont want to be found or changed and they judge a way of life and only want to punish it by death.We cant tolerate it
i just wish more common people were aware of venus project and the zeitgeist movement .Its very interesting for people to think & talk about. However, i live in philly, and the people i meet, and work with never even heard anything about it. Its like for every one person that is aware; there's ONE THOUSAND others with no idea;and this guy has been around since the 1970's saying the same things. Its fucking crazy how people know so much, but yet so little.
I believe disease and sicknesses are what is needed to control our population. It's the natural order of the world for people to get old and/or sick and die, it's what's meant to happen. With so many vaccines and medications and pills people are living far too long(look at old people who can barely stand up and soil they're pants)death is natural and the planets way of dealing with overpopulation is viruses and disease. I say let nature do it's thing and it'll level out our population.
Que grande sos, Jacque!!! Gracias por ayudarnos a ver el mundo con otros ojos. A darnos cuenta de cuanta superficialidad innecesaria hay en nuestras vidas, y cuan valiosa es la naturaleza y el Planeta Tierra. Gracias Jacque!!!
Going by this reality, it would require many more years for cultural blending to take place before differences could be resolved so that global citizenship unity can be achieved.
Fresco speaks of a sustainable society....I've never heard him talk about the current population level of the planet and whether or not its sustainable. Can anyone comment on this? What does Fresco have to say about our current population level? Do we need a reduction in population for his society to exist or does the RBE support the current population?
@MasAppealTheGreat you will have to look around more, i know that he has talked about this on numerous occasions. it amounts to this: 1. Survery first-to determine what we have. Anything else would be an opinion.
@thevenusprojectmedia Well how do we go about surveying and lets say we do find out that the current population of humanity is unsustainbale....what then? What is a logical humane way to proceed and fix such a problem?
@MasAppealTheGreat I guess we know you are of the NWO (New World Order) who want to kill half of humanity - I say this because you could have stopped with your question yet you added " do we need reduction in population". Doesn't matter, with your crooked mind set you won't be allowed into the future cities
@acard232002 Hey guy, don't project it was a simple question. Just because I asked it doesn't mean that I support the idea that we go about killing off people. Don't be an idiot. There's lots of ways to reduce the population of the planet without killing people. One simple method would be birth control. Just a suggestion...not saying its right to tell people what they can and cant do. Try and think before you go making wild accusations.
@acard232002 Furthermore...if you would bother to read more of the comments the moderator of the youtube account answered my question and I returned their answer with yet another question "Well how do we go about surveying and lets say we do find out that the current population of humanity is unsustainbale....what then? What is a logical humane way to proceed and fix such a problem?"
@MasAppealTheGreat We certainly need a survey to know exactly how many people can live on this planet, but we're constantly changing the earth's capacity by building new things. Jacque said that we could build cities in the sea and under the ground - and there's a lot of space - so I think we could increase the population with his cities and not diminish it.
And maybe in future we could colonize other planets and encrease our population even more, but maybe this is too futuristic for now...
@MasAppealTheGreat I know he talks about underground living and living at sea. Or building skyscrapers that act as apartment buildings that would be as comfortable as earthbound dwellings.
@MasAppealTheGreat He commented on India and using a different version of his circular city (an interlinked city network) and reallocating resources to the most densely populated areas
He could've said more, this is what I remember from the top of my head
I know in my gut, the moment the people dismantles its weapons and ammo, thats the moment we realize we made the wrong choice.
In a well educated, able and armed society where people respect one another, crime is less likely, tyranny is less likely, and a real community is more than possible once again,, you only have to look at tribes, who, whilst being well armed, did not go killing each other, they worked together to bring in foodand work the land and build homes, and police themselves.
The only reason these "tribes" did not go killing each other was because their "arms" were used to hunt animals, not fight each other.
Guns and ammo in a "resource-based economy" are not comparable to lances and clubs for a tribal system, simply because the contexts are vastly different. One promotes unity, the other promotes mutually-interested peace with the innate chance for an outbreak come around an easily and painlessly executable "assimilation".
@Omgadnowai The Venus projects vision is a very long way off seeing as (as far as im aware), no one is doing anything substanial enough to begin with, so in the meantime, I'd like my guns and ammo, you know, to protect my family and home from criminals.
Even if and when the venus project is finally realized, the dismantaling of weapons might turn out to be a very costly mistake.
You know, life must be everywhere in the universe, so its not only a question of defending from other people.
'Common sense' is a detriment when talking about such non-obvious matters.
for instance, I would say
In a well educated society where people respect one another, crime is less likely, tyranny is less likely, and a real community is more then possible once again.
While i like Jaque, i dont like the idea of giving up the right to own guns and ammo, the law is clear and has been for long enough, its the aspect of need within people that needs to be addressed, give a man the ability to fend for himself, not stifile hime with tax burdens, but i understand that the more people we have on the planet the more people will need, this is something i dont think could ever be addressed in the current society structrue,, a bit random i know.
To those who already have or wish to help translate this and/or other 'thevenusprojectmedia' videos, contact me and I'll get you set up with the respective language teams that are working on them. <3
At 2:34 the subtitle says implicated, but the word Jacque said was actually inculcated. Which means - to implant by repeated statement or admonition; teach persistently and earnestly (usually followed by upon or in ): to inculcate virtue in the young.
The greatest shame is that there are more views for trivial videos that do not relate to the crisis' of the world as does these videos. People like to remain ignorant to things that are true as they see bliss in doing so, however ignorance never solved anything nor does politics.
Great stuff, Jacque. Been learning a lot through these videos and I thank you for that.
Great post i would like to try to translate to Spanish but i don't know how to do it.
I totally agree with the environment effects on human behavior, i'm learn this from jacques and read some literature recommended on TVP website, i try to refute this theory and until now it remains irrefutable. One thing that helps to escape from the values that the system imputes to you is self awareness and that's why the lectures of jacques are so important.
Exactly, "the killing of a man never destroys a value system", like the expression "ideas are bulletproof" from V for Vendetta. This joy with this assassination is a symptom of sickness of our society.
Rare for someone to speak on with wisdom as his agenda. Wisdom = To teach/learn the value of life. He does it in a way that it can allow you to be like him, become wise, if you just watch his videos over and over again. It takes repetition for our culturally forgettable mind to actually adapt to what the mind use to be. He had it good to learn while also able to talk to the people (he even talked to Einstein and WW1 people), so his repetition was experience. Eventually everyone will learn right
"I mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy. Returning hate for hate multiplies hate, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that." - Martin Luther King
poor Jacques, he's so tired of saying the same stuff over and over. Rest your self old man, you've done your part long ago, it's up to new generations to make it happen, that is, if we really want to change anything.
it is officially verified by USA about Bin Laden and Jacque's statement makes sense considering that as a fact. Him questioning that fact might be waste of effort.
One could now say that pleasure and pain mechanisms of the organism came initially by the constraints set by one's environment. Yet those hard-wired mechanisms though environmentally-set, act just like innate instinct or are just that in that they can hardly be reversed or maybe it can, I am not certain.
Perhaps Fresco means that evolution 'the course of life adaptation and propagation'; it finds its definition by the bar the environment sets for survival; if the environment suddenly changed life would too change to adaptation or 'the weak would fall as strong survive the constraints set by one's environment'.
Fresco here is suggesting, we are born culture neutral, a blank canvas, an automaton that says 'I am ready for programming'.
If so, and that those that were and are; they were each born ready for programming; except that at some stage there was no authority except that of the physical natural landscape with its inevitable predators, prey, exploits and exploiters, dangers and opportunities. The early stages of humanity show that humanity learns quick and overcame natural obstacles.
He has these mentations, yet I feel a better job could be done to express them; perhaps he is a greater thinker but not best at communicating the ideas or gathered perception or study of scientific logs.
I am not certain all values presented through my environment I immediately accept.
Here an exception; pleasure and pain; is it not natural to recoil from a pain-inducing source and to seek after pleasure-inducing sources?
Does one not recoil as prick is felt, naturally by innate instinct
"does not make a judgment until verifiable"... 'we' (in our capacities) need to make such a value system favorable to most (all) people, by making such an environment available for others to evaluate it (if they are unaware), without 'any' feeling of causticity or threat... it's a failure when we forget that 'all' the core inventions were 'made' possible when people worked under such a value system (by natural laws), it's time society adopts it. Also, Jacque Fresco deserves a chance he needs...
C'mon, dude. He's making the "gun as phallus" insinuation. That's the weakest, most offensive argument against gun-ownership. I advocate gun-ownership as insurance against tyranny. It's a responsibility, and I don't "get off" on it. Furthermore, I say that the rate of violent crime is inversely correlated with the rate of gun-ownership in a given region, and that an armed culture is generally more respectful and more peaceful. There are mountains of data to back this up.
Fresco is a brilliant man,unfortunately the human being is a critical thinker,and we usually do not think until thing's are critical?Mass free education for the planet is the answer, stop the bombs, build the school's?Of course this is to logical,something we lack?
Agent Smith: I'd like to share a revelation that I've had during my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify your species and I realized that you're not actually mammals. Every mammal on this planet
instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment but you humans do not. You move to an area and you multiply and multiply until every natural resource is consumed and the only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet. You're a plague and we are the cure.
Let me understand you want the entire world to resolve their differences and come to together for one consolidated goal of world peace, equality, love and cooperation? But yet your actions indicate that you can't even stick with your own support base. You turned your back on 500,000 supporters because ZM wouldn't push your Venus Project Movie to it's members, I'm sorry but your integrity and credibility is blown out of the water, to bad you can't uphold the words you speak.
@TLSlayer1 So understanding reality is their responsibility. And their doing such a good job at that, right ? However, that affects us too, whether we want to admit it or not. For instance : Let's say you have some kids, and you want to give them a proper education. The environment is crawling with christians, mormons, etc. How can one simply not interfere ? You share the same city, same politicians, everything. Does it make sense to be different in opinions ? How can such a society evolve ?
jack i'll be sure to do what i can to advocate the venus project as best i can. i love how you realize the value systems people live by are not a choice, it is a product of the environment they are brought up in.
You both have different functional definitions of atheism and agnosticism, with a different focus on what constitutes those terms. Even though you might share the same overarching beliefs, it seems like it's ultimately semantic debate rather than a philosophical one.
A way around this is using agnostic as an adjective:
e.g.
Gnostic Theism: there is a god and I know it
Agnostic Theism: I believe there is a god but I know I can't be 100% certain
@TLSlayer1 from Wikipedia: 'Sagan denied that he was an atheist, saying "An atheist has to know a lot more than I know. An atheist is someone who knows there is no god. By some definitions atheism is very stupid."' - Carl Sagan
@lamardetube Do not forget that people at the very top of society (above government) are white. Even so, we people are all the same for them, money slaves.
I don't understand if Jacque really believes in Bin Laden existance (as a foreign terrorist) or if he is just speaking it out to ones who believe in USA government/media's version.
Benazeer Bhutto announced Bin Laden's death back in 2007. A few weeks before she was assassinated. Coincidental I'm sure. I have one word to say on this, Jurisprudence.
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"We shouldn't rejoice over death, blah blah" - Get a fucking grip you idiots. Some people DESERVE to die! Fuck the trial, this guy needed to be snuffed out.
In fact, what the fuck are you guys doing here watching youtube instead of being outside hugging trees?
Who are you to say who deserves to live and who is supposed to die? What did this man ever do to you? What proof do you have that he even had ANYTHING to do with 9/11?
I know there is the SLIGHT chance that he did and even if this truly were the case, how does his death change ANYTHING in the world? This attitude is so childish that I am ashamed to even have to reply to you. Go read some book, please, anything, just read! Don't watch so much TV and action movies.
@substance901 When they're lead to believe that Osama was behind 9/11 , it'll eventually sink deeper into their heads over the years, and they will totally keep it as the only possible thesis to maintain so called "peaceful state of mind".. mostly motivated by the fear being rejected by society. Facts go totally against what they take as truism. The more time you spend with your belief, harder it becomes for you to reject it. Agree with all those points.
@xao92k "Some people deserve to die". Yes, people think this way as long as it isn't them getting killed! MAYBE YOU need to die because of your stupidity. Where is your compassion? 9/11 was an inside job.
@WJValente I know you didnt wrote it, but ill ask you and maybe the guy sees it. WHat does it mean to "deserve to die"? He says Bin Laden deserved to die. Does it mean that if someone hurts people, hurting him back will help them? Whats the purpose of revenge? To feel good? How good will you feel when Bin Ladens followers bomb another building? Will it still be worth his death? Do you think WTC and Bin Ladens life was a good trade?
@ztawiz I understand, however, I often think people come on here to piss other people off and NOT to arrive at any kind of real conclusion. You can see the evidence and the incongruities so that's all that matters. It will be a small minority of enlightened and dedicated individuals who change the world and NOT the conformist, glib, and brain damaged masses of fluoride-heads. I hope that helps.
Everyone who can really feel satisfied, or "happy" about the death of Osama Bin Laden, is as clever as 10 arrays of Salad.
Not only that I allready know the next one of his mentality would follow - no - just because I know Osama Bin Ladens influence ON MY LIFE was around 0%.
Because I knew of him, it was a bit more then nothing. But that IS nothing at all. And to know that he was friends wie Goerge Bush is hilarious!
PLUS - finally I consider all this people als murdered, not "killed" at all.
I would like to thank the team for all the great nice videos on the youtube channel. I started reading your e-books and those from the zeitgeist movement, (I know that The Venus Project is not a Activist arm anymore).
But helping both of the conceps is the best thing i can do
thanks for the timely post - i can see the pain in your eyes - i dont believe bin laden was soley responsible for the 911 terrorist attack anyway - its so obviouslly impossible -according to engineers for 2 planes to bring even 1 of those buildings down much less 3 buildings - i dont mind the killing of bin lladen though - he was unredeemably a violent killer - i am at a loss however on how to chance the values of extremist though - especially in places where ideas are repressed - but ill try
When i feel unmotivated, I listen to Fresco talk and every time it throws me back to my study and the eager to learn new things and become more intelligent returns.
@stinkbegaaier I know what you mean! My Physics studies can become quite intense and overwhelming sometimes but listening to Jacque always helps. I like listening to Peter Joseph, too, he is a seriously good talker.
@TLSlayer1 You need to offer an alternative to christians. Simply demonstrating that their focus is false will not be effective in a debate. Remember that and try it. And tell me how it goes. Thank you.
@TLSlayer1 i dont believe them but i do assume that its a defense mechanism to steer the conversation away from them being personally confronted with personal questions.
@lamardetube The ice age made white skin more advantageous than dark, so for a long time most humans were white, now that ice age is over and the temperature is slowly rising, population is normalizing. Since large tribes can submit small tribes white skin people gather bast resources, now that primitive times are slowly and painfully going away, the population its diversifying, and resources being redistributed. But people in the old value system alarm because they don't understand the change.
Its the kids we need to be focused on... We need to dramatically change the education system.. We need to get rid of spongebob and stupid ass shows like that.. I mean, have you ever sat down and looked at what kids are watching these days?! Dont get me started on reality shows... You know what.. just throw the tv in the dumpster...
Yes war is the maximum expression of ignorance....I would bet he knows about the Ascension journey....3rd dimension ending and 5th dimension is emerging!!!!
The Universal Law of One states 'When One Is Harmed All Are Harmed, When One Is Helped All Are Helped" Its Making Decision Based On the Greatest Good Of All Concerned Based On Unconditional Love. Treating All With Dignity. Increase Love Frequency Through Forgiveness So That Decisions Are Made For The Greatest Good
It is quite disgusting that people are "happy" or "proud" over the death of someone no matter who they are. What about his rights and a trial? 9/11 was an inside job.
@WJValente you fucking said it! i have been telling kids that all day at school and all they say is that im supporting terrorist ideas, which im not, but i do value human life, all human life. Ideas do not die only that which live can die..
@WJValente you know, there are a lot of people on this planet that only watch tv, they don't even know some people doubt that 9/11 was bin laden's hand, they will always be happy to see a "supposed enemy" dead, and would most surely flame Fresco for this speech, their vote is based on the most ridiculous reasons, they take part in deciding our future ...
Apparenly you have never been touched by true evil in the world. He personally accepted, and said, that he was the mastermind behind 3,000+ murders of innocent life. Live in your pseudo-intellectual little bubble my friend and cry out for your justice. I'm happy as could be over his death. Ignorance is bliss.
@CrypticDruid I understand both sides here. But Cryticdruid, you have to undestand that almost all people "infected" with the strong feelings of hate by either if something bad happens in their life or someone close dies, the feelings disturbs the way of thinking open and being open minded. Bringing Osama Bin Laden to "justice" or just taking him alive, and not making him a legend, a martyr for people in his value system would be better. However I know this would be rather impossible to do..
@hcpiano I disagree. Everything in life 'alters' our way of thinking every second of our lives. Being 'open minded' doesn't mean ignoring the facts, it is inclusive that you understand the facts. I was in Iraq and I know hatred. Not on my part, but outwards towards all Americans. If one single person on this Earth plans multiple attacks in the name of religion on innocent people and hides like a coward and fights to his death he is already a martyr. Only thing we can do is to end his life.
@CrypticDruid "I'm as happy as could be over his death." TRUST me, it is YOU who is disturbed and living in a bubble, not me. I am not even a Christian and I know what is right versus wrong. 9/11 was an inside job. Do some research because you are way off base.
@WJValente Disregard my previous comments, I wrote them before I realized that you are a complete and total fool. Go watch more video's of little kids hitting each other with baseball bats and drink your fluoride.
@WJValente It's obvious the goverment lies, but 9/11 was not an inside job. You go do some research, everything has been debunked. It doesn't take rocket science in any case, to see how no one would claim that he did that, and Osama personally admited he was the mastermind behind all of this. To ignore that there is a real threat of global terrorism by crazy-ass muslims is ignoring reality. Remember that they are living on the middle ages. Remember how Christians did the same back in the day.
Only if people contributed something good to society every time Jacque gives out an enlightening lecture, instead of celebrating the death of a person, perhaps the world would be a better place...
"War is the maximum expression of ignorance"
- Jacque Fresco
bjl34565 5 days ago
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SuperEdimeia 3 months ago
Jacque Fresco is a very wise gentleman.
Laoch111 4 months ago
This old man is very intelligent. If you like what he says check out my book---30 years in a making---and I give to all at no cost---The Dawn of Intelligence
Search Wildman Walker's blog and click on the link 'book' under the cover picture.
superwhuffo1 4 months ago
I am a muslim and I %100 follow his logical methodology but I don't share his view of religion that is irrelevant giving the sitution that planet earth is in for the time being
FazaaMinAlFaraaq 5 months ago
So I may be a bit confused but the video seems to say:
Ignore the past, ignore the stated threat
Accept and do not resist attacks
Because to resist attack or god forbid promote a more enlightened value system would condemn that value system...
And any value system that contains a punishment system is intrinsically bad?
If a man robs a store you are at with your grandchildren you should be ok with the man raping and killing your grandchildren. My value system would have me defend mine.
desredmon 5 months ago
@desredmon well stated, because few seem to look at things from the point of view that it is one's own 'value system' in appraising a situation. But i think you misunderstand key points. It isn't to ignore the past or a threat-it's HOW we respond that will determine if we attain a short term personal gain, or a long term improvement in society. Jacque speaks about punitive methods as insufficient in dealing with the causes. We should ask what CONDITIONS made the 'crime' ?
thevenusprojectmedia 5 months ago 9
@thevenusprojectmedia Ok so I did partly misunderstand. My appologies. However I would hasten to point out that it is a very faulty position to take that in the absence of causal factors humans or any living organism will constrain to the greatest good of any society. (With the potential exception of ducks) That is why our more afluent societies have higher crime and recidivism. Due to the diminution of our justice systems. Hense more strict justice systems have much lower rearrest rates.
desredmon 5 months ago
@desredmon Wouldn't the robber's valuesystem have changed too by then? He isn't talking about individual change of value systems
Conibeer 5 months ago
I was using the robber metaphorically. I was actually thinking of Bin Laden. If you seek to change the causal factors that must be done before they are set into the value system. Or via the public display of consequence. If the cost of a value is to high it will be lost. Once someone has begun to harm at will, stopping them is necessary. Cessation of a negative value and the cause must go hand in hand. Reduction in cause without cessation is no more effective than punishment alone.
desredmon 4 months ago
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I was using the robber metaphorically. I was actually thinking of Bin Laden. If you seek to change the causal factors that must be done before they are set into the value system. Or via the public display of consequence. If the cost of a value is to high it will be lost. Once someone has begun to harm at will, stopping them is necessary. Cessation of a negative value and the cause must go hand in hand. Reduction in cause without cessation is no more effective than punishment alone.
desredmon 4 months ago
@desredmon The thing is attacking, simple retribution, is not a solution, it is a temporary patchwork. The root of the problem is the thinking process. Kill a man or woman, and the problems remain. Society has slaughtered so many criminals, heretics, and 'evil' people. What has that done? Nothing. See, they've killed Hitler and now the leaders of today are much worse than Hitler ever was, they have greater weapons and methods of destruction that Hitler never had.
Josephjoel3 4 months ago
There is an error in your facts. People not killed to prevent further crimes: Ze-dong 50m, Stalin 23m, Hitler 12m, Tojo 5m, etc. People we have targeted: Bin Laden 3500, Al Zarqawi 2000.
Moral of the story?
By stopping either by capture and trial (first choice) or killing (second choice) drastically reducing the harm they cause.
Second point: The leaders of today may have access to more powerful weapons but none have even approached their predecessors’ level of mass murder.
desredmon 4 months ago
@desredmon What is preferable murder or torture? What will the leaders of today do when they are truly threatened? What are they doing now? The very term mass murder is relative. Killing in a single confined moment of time or prolonging killing and suffering? Although we are engaging in elaboration, I hope we both can agree that man's history and life up until the present day is a tragedy.
Josephjoel3 4 months ago
@desredmon
You are confused. I've never heard of this speaker until now. I agree with some of what he says, and disagree with some of it. I do find his talk to be interesting, and refreshingly logical. I hope you'll take this as a comment from a person who is neither a fan nor detractor of Jacque Fresco when I say: "I am stunned at the level to which you have misinterpreted virtually everything he said."
griznak 4 months ago
@desredmon This shows that you haven't understand anything at all.
lillenoori 3 months ago
The very concept of "Attack" implies a difference in interests and the failure of what we call communication today (if we talk about human society) Jacque Talks about TESTING even your values, given the premise of well being for all mankind Punishment is just a factor that exists in this paradigm (today). How can you improve anything if you don't fail in the first place... even so we need to consider the consequence of our failures in the future.. and get to the ROOT of the problem.
echerechesiu 2 months ago
@desredmon Got a bit of emotional and intellectual growth to happen for you yet.
guitarist1803 1 month ago
@desredmon I think that based on the situation, if your life is threatened, you must defend or run away. Because you die and this deprives of your right of survival. If your grandchildren are raped, you know that will definitely cause mental and physical damage to your grandchildren, that deprives of your grandchildren's necessity of life, then you act to prevent it. Also, if the situation is avaliable, you should talk to that man, that man acts based on his past experiences
meetKEL 2 weeks ago
I DONT think this is sustainable however much it is attempted. This is sensible, but idealism. No one wanted to kill Bin Laden until his unacceptable value system led to the blowing up of thousands of people who didnt want to harm anyone. Such values are ancient but deeply entrenched in many people.We could not change people who follow Bin Laden because it is too difficult ; they dont want to be found or changed and they judge a way of life and only want to punish it by death.We cant tolerate it
TheKenfig 7 months ago
I thought that Jacque Fresco was an atheist...
antiteista83 7 months ago
i just wish more common people were aware of venus project and the zeitgeist movement .Its very interesting for people to think & talk about. However, i live in philly, and the people i meet, and work with never even heard anything about it. Its like for every one person that is aware; there's ONE THOUSAND others with no idea;and this guy has been around since the 1970's saying the same things. Its fucking crazy how people know so much, but yet so little.
ezekielclinton 7 months ago
You give me more hope than every before... I hope this message seeps down to the core of every person that hears it.
Soundslikeshavon 7 months ago
I believe disease and sicknesses are what is needed to control our population. It's the natural order of the world for people to get old and/or sick and die, it's what's meant to happen. With so many vaccines and medications and pills people are living far too long(look at old people who can barely stand up and soil they're pants)death is natural and the planets way of dealing with overpopulation is viruses and disease. I say let nature do it's thing and it'll level out our population.
Tryandtakemyguns11 8 months ago
Que grande sos, Jacque!!! Gracias por ayudarnos a ver el mundo con otros ojos. A darnos cuenta de cuanta superficialidad innecesaria hay en nuestras vidas, y cuan valiosa es la naturaleza y el Planeta Tierra. Gracias Jacque!!!
jpiro80 8 months ago
Brilliant!
lurkern 8 months ago
Going by this reality, it would require many more years for cultural blending to take place before differences could be resolved so that global citizenship unity can be achieved.
97pattan 9 months ago
Fresco speaks of a sustainable society....I've never heard him talk about the current population level of the planet and whether or not its sustainable. Can anyone comment on this? What does Fresco have to say about our current population level? Do we need a reduction in population for his society to exist or does the RBE support the current population?
MasAppealTheGreat 9 months ago
@MasAppealTheGreat you will have to look around more, i know that he has talked about this on numerous occasions. it amounts to this: 1. Survery first-to determine what we have. Anything else would be an opinion.
thevenusprojectmedia 9 months ago 4
@thevenusprojectmedia Well how do we go about surveying and lets say we do find out that the current population of humanity is unsustainbale....what then? What is a logical humane way to proceed and fix such a problem?
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PensFan35 8 months ago
In his interview with Larry King in the 70's he said that a solid education itself can be used to control population.
PensFan35 8 months ago
@MasAppealTheGreat I guess we know you are of the NWO (New World Order) who want to kill half of humanity - I say this because you could have stopped with your question yet you added " do we need reduction in population". Doesn't matter, with your crooked mind set you won't be allowed into the future cities
acard232002 9 months ago
@acard232002 Hey guy, don't project it was a simple question. Just because I asked it doesn't mean that I support the idea that we go about killing off people. Don't be an idiot. There's lots of ways to reduce the population of the planet without killing people. One simple method would be birth control. Just a suggestion...not saying its right to tell people what they can and cant do. Try and think before you go making wild accusations.
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@acard232002 Furthermore...if you would bother to read more of the comments the moderator of the youtube account answered my question and I returned their answer with yet another question "Well how do we go about surveying and lets say we do find out that the current population of humanity is unsustainbale....what then? What is a logical humane way to proceed and fix such a problem?"
MasAppealTheGreat 9 months ago
@MasAppealTheGreat We certainly need a survey to know exactly how many people can live on this planet, but we're constantly changing the earth's capacity by building new things. Jacque said that we could build cities in the sea and under the ground - and there's a lot of space - so I think we could increase the population with his cities and not diminish it.
And maybe in future we could colonize other planets and encrease our population even more, but maybe this is too futuristic for now...
erasmusso 8 months ago
@MasAppealTheGreat Earth can provide for the current population easily.
teewilson333 7 months ago
@MasAppealTheGreat I know he talks about underground living and living at sea. Or building skyscrapers that act as apartment buildings that would be as comfortable as earthbound dwellings.
blackpanther6389 7 months ago
@MasAppealTheGreat He commented on India and using a different version of his circular city (an interlinked city network) and reallocating resources to the most densely populated areas
He could've said more, this is what I remember from the top of my head
Conibeer 5 months ago
more people like he. I would wote for him in election :D if just he would have some power to change something....
partizansister 9 months ago
I love this guy! :)
1spiritualalchemy1 9 months ago
post more lectures if you have :)
Amniamnyz 9 months ago
Voice of one crying in the wilderness.
Don't fall asleep jac
manchise 9 months ago
Another great lecture! Thanks a lot to the team :)
Nillaine 9 months ago
The appraisal of a death to one particular human... this is mere psychosis.
SlimeAmTheBest 9 months ago
I know in my gut, the moment the people dismantles its weapons and ammo, thats the moment we realize we made the wrong choice.
In a well educated, able and armed society where people respect one another, crime is less likely, tyranny is less likely, and a real community is more than possible once again,, you only have to look at tribes, who, whilst being well armed, did not go killing each other, they worked together to bring in foodand work the land and build homes, and police themselves.
StandStrongTogether 9 months ago
@StandStrongTogether
The only reason these "tribes" did not go killing each other was because their "arms" were used to hunt animals, not fight each other.
Guns and ammo in a "resource-based economy" are not comparable to lances and clubs for a tribal system, simply because the contexts are vastly different. One promotes unity, the other promotes mutually-interested peace with the innate chance for an outbreak come around an easily and painlessly executable "assimilation".
Omgadnowai 9 months ago
@Omgadnowai The Venus projects vision is a very long way off seeing as (as far as im aware), no one is doing anything substanial enough to begin with, so in the meantime, I'd like my guns and ammo, you know, to protect my family and home from criminals.
Even if and when the venus project is finally realized, the dismantaling of weapons might turn out to be a very costly mistake.
You know, life must be everywhere in the universe, so its not only a question of defending from other people.
StandStrongTogether 9 months ago
@StandStrongTogether you know what's in your gut [and mine], shit! XD
'Common sense' is a detriment when talking about such non-obvious matters.
for instance, I would say
In a well educated society where people respect one another, crime is less likely, tyranny is less likely, and a real community is more then possible once again.
:)
Peace,
WurmD 9 months ago
While i like Jaque, i dont like the idea of giving up the right to own guns and ammo, the law is clear and has been for long enough, its the aspect of need within people that needs to be addressed, give a man the ability to fend for himself, not stifile hime with tax burdens, but i understand that the more people we have on the planet the more people will need, this is something i dont think could ever be addressed in the current society structrue,, a bit random i know.
StandStrongTogether 9 months ago
To those who already have or wish to help translate this and/or other 'thevenusprojectmedia' videos, contact me and I'll get you set up with the respective language teams that are working on them. <3
ZMLinguisticTeam 9 months ago
At 2:34 the subtitle says implicated, but the word Jacque said was actually inculcated. Which means - to implant by repeated statement or admonition; teach persistently and earnestly (usually followed by upon or in ): to inculcate virtue in the young.
33smojo 9 months ago 2
@33smojo fixed, thanks!
thevenusprojectmedia 9 months ago 2
At 8:37 manner not manor
SlimeAmTheBest 9 months ago
@33smojo Thanks for catching this!
huetubery 9 months ago
i have made an romanian subtitle. how can i send it to you?
geox555 9 months ago
The greatest shame is that there are more views for trivial videos that do not relate to the crisis' of the world as does these videos. People like to remain ignorant to things that are true as they see bliss in doing so, however ignorance never solved anything nor does politics.
Great stuff, Jacque. Been learning a lot through these videos and I thank you for that.
SicMick7 9 months ago
Great lecture. I wish more people understood how Environmental factors influence human behavior
F50Italia 10 months ago
Great post i would like to try to translate to Spanish but i don't know how to do it.
I totally agree with the environment effects on human behavior, i'm learn this from jacques and read some literature recommended on TVP website, i try to refute this theory and until now it remains irrefutable. One thing that helps to escape from the values that the system imputes to you is self awareness and that's why the lectures of jacques are so important.
MetalBox10 10 months ago
Exactly, "the killing of a man never destroys a value system", like the expression "ideas are bulletproof" from V for Vendetta. This joy with this assassination is a symptom of sickness of our society.
FRalph8 10 months ago
Rare for someone to speak on with wisdom as his agenda. Wisdom = To teach/learn the value of life. He does it in a way that it can allow you to be like him, become wise, if you just watch his videos over and over again. It takes repetition for our culturally forgettable mind to actually adapt to what the mind use to be. He had it good to learn while also able to talk to the people (he even talked to Einstein and WW1 people), so his repetition was experience. Eventually everyone will learn right
enlighteneveryone 10 months ago
"I mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy. Returning hate for hate multiplies hate, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that." - Martin Luther King
r06ue1 10 months ago
poor Jacques, he's so tired of saying the same stuff over and over. Rest your self old man, you've done your part long ago, it's up to new generations to make it happen, that is, if we really want to change anything.
RestauranteChines 10 months ago
Yet another insightful video Jacque! Well done!
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Malthus0 10 months ago
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right or wrong... if values are learned, then the American Govt. believed that Osama was a powerful teacher...
Long live Jacque Fresco....
ritajordan8100 10 months ago
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ritajordan8100 10 months ago
@gunsandbullhorn
it is officially verified by USA about Bin Laden and Jacque's statement makes sense considering that as a fact. Him questioning that fact might be waste of effort.
Pardon me for interrupting...
shreysagit 10 months ago
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shreysagit 10 months ago
One could now say that pleasure and pain mechanisms of the organism came initially by the constraints set by one's environment. Yet those hard-wired mechanisms though environmentally-set, act just like innate instinct or are just that in that they can hardly be reversed or maybe it can, I am not certain.
osheaad 10 months ago
Perhaps Fresco means that evolution 'the course of life adaptation and propagation'; it finds its definition by the bar the environment sets for survival; if the environment suddenly changed life would too change to adaptation or 'the weak would fall as strong survive the constraints set by one's environment'.
osheaad 10 months ago
Fresco here is suggesting, we are born culture neutral, a blank canvas, an automaton that says 'I am ready for programming'.
If so, and that those that were and are; they were each born ready for programming; except that at some stage there was no authority except that of the physical natural landscape with its inevitable predators, prey, exploits and exploiters, dangers and opportunities. The early stages of humanity show that humanity learns quick and overcame natural obstacles.
osheaad 10 months ago
He has these mentations, yet I feel a better job could be done to express them; perhaps he is a greater thinker but not best at communicating the ideas or gathered perception or study of scientific logs.
I am not certain all values presented through my environment I immediately accept.
Here an exception; pleasure and pain; is it not natural to recoil from a pain-inducing source and to seek after pleasure-inducing sources?
Does one not recoil as prick is felt, naturally by innate instinct
osheaad 10 months ago
More views. More views. More Thumbs. More donations for the CGI movie. Mooaaaar.
(But seriously. Why don't these wise words get more recognition from the general public? =\)
GoodFortuneOfficial 10 months ago
"does not make a judgment until verifiable"... 'we' (in our capacities) need to make such a value system favorable to most (all) people, by making such an environment available for others to evaluate it (if they are unaware), without 'any' feeling of causticity or threat... it's a failure when we forget that 'all' the core inventions were 'made' possible when people worked under such a value system (by natural laws), it's time society adopts it. Also, Jacque Fresco deserves a chance he needs...
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shreysagit 10 months ago
There is no evidence that Bin Laden was killed. ...and there is still no evidence that he had anything to do with the attacks of 9/11.
Fuck Jacque Fresco for his "sense of power" and "glorious feeling" comments about gun-ownership. He doesn't know shit.
gunsandbullhorns 10 months ago
@gunsandbullhorns
Careful now.
TZMNorway 10 months ago
@TZMNorway
C'mon, dude. He's making the "gun as phallus" insinuation. That's the weakest, most offensive argument against gun-ownership. I advocate gun-ownership as insurance against tyranny. It's a responsibility, and I don't "get off" on it. Furthermore, I say that the rate of violent crime is inversely correlated with the rate of gun-ownership in a given region, and that an armed culture is generally more respectful and more peaceful. There are mountains of data to back this up.
gunsandbullhorns 10 months ago
Fresco is a brilliant man,unfortunately the human being is a critical thinker,and we usually do not think until thing's are critical?Mass free education for the planet is the answer, stop the bombs, build the school's?Of course this is to logical,something we lack?
Agent Smith: I'd like to share a revelation that I've had during my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify your species and I realized that you're not actually mammals. Every mammal on this planet
69oneear 10 months ago
instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment but you humans do not. You move to an area and you multiply and multiply until every natural resource is consumed and the only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet. You're a plague and we are the cure.
69oneear 10 months ago
Let me understand you want the entire world to resolve their differences and come to together for one consolidated goal of world peace, equality, love and cooperation? But yet your actions indicate that you can't even stick with your own support base. You turned your back on 500,000 supporters because ZM wouldn't push your Venus Project Movie to it's members, I'm sorry but your integrity and credibility is blown out of the water, to bad you can't uphold the words you speak.
danz177 10 months ago
Osama has been dead for 9 years, you're a little late Jacque.
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agnoz85 10 months ago
Thx Jacques, really liked this one
methanegasses 10 months ago
@TLSlayer1 Sir I just gave an example of how the environment affects us constantly. I am not arguing, I am simply having a conversation with you :)
Yamakoto120 10 months ago
four people don't understand .
peterjol 10 months ago
@TLSlayer1 So understanding reality is their responsibility. And their doing such a good job at that, right ? However, that affects us too, whether we want to admit it or not. For instance : Let's say you have some kids, and you want to give them a proper education. The environment is crawling with christians, mormons, etc. How can one simply not interfere ? You share the same city, same politicians, everything. Does it make sense to be different in opinions ? How can such a society evolve ?
Yamakoto120 10 months ago
jack i'll be sure to do what i can to advocate the venus project as best i can. i love how you realize the value systems people live by are not a choice, it is a product of the environment they are brought up in.
conraddoavil 10 months ago
@ShittyAccount @TLSlayer
You both have different functional definitions of atheism and agnosticism, with a different focus on what constitutes those terms. Even though you might share the same overarching beliefs, it seems like it's ultimately semantic debate rather than a philosophical one.
A way around this is using agnostic as an adjective:
e.g.
Gnostic Theism: there is a god and I know it
Agnostic Theism: I believe there is a god but I know I can't be 100% certain
-and so forth for atheism.
Sutaraiku 10 months ago
@TLSlayer1 I don't believe in it too because in my understanding if no one proved that God exists therefore God does not exist. :)
ShittyAccount 10 months ago
I love Jacque Fresco.
IntuitiveGanesh 10 months ago
@TLSlayer1 from Wikipedia: 'Sagan denied that he was an atheist, saying "An atheist has to know a lot more than I know. An atheist is someone who knows there is no god. By some definitions atheism is very stupid."' - Carl Sagan
ShittyAccount 10 months ago
@lamardetube Do not forget that people at the very top of society (above government) are white. Even so, we people are all the same for them, money slaves.
ShittyAccount 10 months ago
I don't understand if Jacque really believes in Bin Laden existance (as a foreign terrorist) or if he is just speaking it out to ones who believe in USA government/media's version.
ShittyAccount 10 months ago
who are those 4 morons who hated this video?
arifkarim 10 months ago
2001 viewer D=>
CenturysSamurai 10 months ago
Wisdom ☮
MilesTyson 10 months ago
i cant believe this man is 95. absolute legend
Staz222 10 months ago 2
"I will never let a man bring me so low as to make me hate him" -Booker T. Washington
"He who is without sin cast the first stone." -Holy Bible
WJValente 10 months ago
Benazeer Bhutto announced Bin Laden's death back in 2007. A few weeks before she was assassinated. Coincidental I'm sure. I have one word to say on this, Jurisprudence.
ElectricBishop 10 months ago
Go Fresco! Gooo!!!
Unzaman 10 months ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
"We shouldn't rejoice over death, blah blah" - Get a fucking grip you idiots. Some people DESERVE to die! Fuck the trial, this guy needed to be snuffed out.
In fact, what the fuck are you guys doing here watching youtube instead of being outside hugging trees?
xao92k 10 months ago
@xao92k
Who are you to say who deserves to live and who is supposed to die? What did this man ever do to you? What proof do you have that he even had ANYTHING to do with 9/11?
I know there is the SLIGHT chance that he did and even if this truly were the case, how does his death change ANYTHING in the world? This attitude is so childish that I am ashamed to even have to reply to you. Go read some book, please, anything, just read! Don't watch so much TV and action movies.
substance901 10 months ago 7
@substance901 Your tinfoil hat will not save you.
xao92k 10 months ago
@substance901 When they're lead to believe that Osama was behind 9/11 , it'll eventually sink deeper into their heads over the years, and they will totally keep it as the only possible thesis to maintain so called "peaceful state of mind".. mostly motivated by the fear being rejected by society. Facts go totally against what they take as truism. The more time you spend with your belief, harder it becomes for you to reject it. Agree with all those points.
laitela01 9 months ago
@xao92k "Some people deserve to die". Yes, people think this way as long as it isn't them getting killed! MAYBE YOU need to die because of your stupidity. Where is your compassion? 9/11 was an inside job.
WJValente 10 months ago 3
@WJValente I know you didnt wrote it, but ill ask you and maybe the guy sees it. WHat does it mean to "deserve to die"? He says Bin Laden deserved to die. Does it mean that if someone hurts people, hurting him back will help them? Whats the purpose of revenge? To feel good? How good will you feel when Bin Ladens followers bomb another building? Will it still be worth his death? Do you think WTC and Bin Ladens life was a good trade?
ztawiz 10 months ago 3
@ztawiz I understand, however, I often think people come on here to piss other people off and NOT to arrive at any kind of real conclusion. You can see the evidence and the incongruities so that's all that matters. It will be a small minority of enlightened and dedicated individuals who change the world and NOT the conformist, glib, and brain damaged masses of fluoride-heads. I hope that helps.
WJValente 10 months ago
Everyone who can really feel satisfied, or "happy" about the death of Osama Bin Laden, is as clever as 10 arrays of Salad.
Not only that I allready know the next one of his mentality would follow - no - just because I know Osama Bin Ladens influence ON MY LIFE was around 0%.
Because I knew of him, it was a bit more then nothing. But that IS nothing at all. And to know that he was friends wie Goerge Bush is hilarious!
PLUS - finally I consider all this people als murdered, not "killed" at all.
DunkleMaterie117 10 months ago 3
The Venus Project should hook up with Ron Paul 2012. This man is full of wisdom, people should listen.
TheOmegaeyes 10 months ago 3
@TheOmegaeyes Great! Thanks for the information :)
hcpiano 10 months ago
@TheOmegaeyes the problem is that he is a polititian... it wouldn't change much
ShittyAccount 10 months ago
More great information from Jacque. Truly the wisest human being I have ever come across in any aspect of life.
BrentAltonNally 10 months ago 29
Sweet. The transcript is in serious need of proofreading though.
Anyway, thanks for the video!
gfdecarvalho 10 months ago
@gfdecarvalho TVP wont do it -_-;
huetubery 10 months ago
I would like to thank the team for all the great nice videos on the youtube channel. I started reading your e-books and those from the zeitgeist movement, (I know that The Venus Project is not a Activist arm anymore).
But helping both of the conceps is the best thing i can do
keannor130 10 months ago 2
much <3
selvmordspilot 10 months ago
QUOTE: 12:56
OutbackAL 10 months ago 4
thanks for the timely post - i can see the pain in your eyes - i dont believe bin laden was soley responsible for the 911 terrorist attack anyway - its so obviouslly impossible -according to engineers for 2 planes to bring even 1 of those buildings down much less 3 buildings - i dont mind the killing of bin lladen though - he was unredeemably a violent killer - i am at a loss however on how to chance the values of extremist though - especially in places where ideas are repressed - but ill try
MrIzzyDizzy 10 months ago
When i feel unmotivated, I listen to Fresco talk and every time it throws me back to my study and the eager to learn new things and become more intelligent returns.
Jacque, thank you sir.
stinkbegaaier 10 months ago 5
@stinkbegaaier I know what you mean! My Physics studies can become quite intense and overwhelming sometimes but listening to Jacque always helps. I like listening to Peter Joseph, too, he is a seriously good talker.
substance901 10 months ago 7
@stinkbegaaier you should listen to other people too like Carl Sagan :)
ShittyAccount 10 months ago
" War is the maximum expression of ignorance"
Brilliant line...
heveinmusic 10 months ago 47
Thank you Jacque
NicoSeymore 10 months ago
Thanks Jacque. Well explained.
TZM member.
artemytb 10 months ago
Transcription available here: dl.dropbox.com/u/1337005/jacque.fresco.problems.of.values.srt
huetubery 10 months ago
True!
DeVivre 10 months ago
Thanks Jacque!
DevilTheoryTunes 10 months ago
@TLSlayer1 You need to offer an alternative to christians. Simply demonstrating that their focus is false will not be effective in a debate. Remember that and try it. And tell me how it goes. Thank you.
Yamakoto120 10 months ago
if EVERY single human on this planet,watched this short 14 min video, UNDERSTOOD it, at that point, i am very sure things would be better.
LorienNewman 10 months ago 5
Brilliant words from Jacque Fresco. Sir you speak more sense than every single
politician there has ever been.
MrSPECTRUM7 10 months ago
i m glad i shared same views with Fresco even before this speech.
I want to live again.
Realjhad 10 months ago
Right on, Jacque! I harken to the day when we all are all capable of operating at a level of clear thinking like Mr Fresco.
PhiRLad 10 months ago 2
@TLSlayer1 i dont believe them but i do assume that its a defense mechanism to steer the conversation away from them being personally confronted with personal questions.
dechav1 10 months ago
@lamardetube The ice age made white skin more advantageous than dark, so for a long time most humans were white, now that ice age is over and the temperature is slowly rising, population is normalizing. Since large tribes can submit small tribes white skin people gather bast resources, now that primitive times are slowly and painfully going away, the population its diversifying, and resources being redistributed. But people in the old value system alarm because they don't understand the change.
Ramiromasters 10 months ago
Its the kids we need to be focused on... We need to dramatically change the education system.. We need to get rid of spongebob and stupid ass shows like that.. I mean, have you ever sat down and looked at what kids are watching these days?! Dont get me started on reality shows... You know what.. just throw the tv in the dumpster...
Just rambling on here...
vdubs4life1964 10 months ago
@vdubs4life1964 Yep, the problem is education but again the elite doesn't want people to use the brain and ask questions.
ShittyAccount 10 months ago
Yes war is the maximum expression of ignorance....I would bet he knows about the Ascension journey....3rd dimension ending and 5th dimension is emerging!!!!
yourvalet 10 months ago
If you want to preach values then don't backstab Peter Joseph for all his efforts.
BannedUfos 10 months ago
The Universal Law of One states 'When One Is Harmed All Are Harmed, When One Is Helped All Are Helped" Its Making Decision Based On the Greatest Good Of All Concerned Based On Unconditional Love. Treating All With Dignity. Increase Love Frequency Through Forgiveness So That Decisions Are Made For The Greatest Good
yourvalet 10 months ago
Ur the man Jacque! i hope u have ppl that will continue your teachings when u are no longer able to do so
BLACKBejaminButton1 10 months ago
Thanks Jacque. I came back to school to study Computer Engineer to help you in the near future.
juliomezameza 10 months ago
Every video's comment section is an echo chamber. We need interactions, debates. Also, how can one support the venus project ? thank you.
Yamakoto120 10 months ago
I'm the only person I know who thinks osama doesn't "deserve" to be killed.
Keim4ever 10 months ago
great video as always
its nice to see others share my point of view
eatenhamhawk 10 months ago
Was a blessing to watch this
´Love`°¤,¸.•*´¯ﾟ･ ✿.｡.:* ☮ (✿◠‿◠)
self0asis 10 months ago
WOW, is all I can say. This is actually KEEPIN IT REAL!!
summershere 10 months ago 67
It is quite disgusting that people are "happy" or "proud" over the death of someone no matter who they are. What about his rights and a trial? 9/11 was an inside job.
WJValente 10 months ago 86
@WJValente you fucking said it! i have been telling kids that all day at school and all they say is that im supporting terrorist ideas, which im not, but i do value human life, all human life. Ideas do not die only that which live can die..
dechav1 10 months ago
@WJValente you know, there are a lot of people on this planet that only watch tv, they don't even know some people doubt that 9/11 was bin laden's hand, they will always be happy to see a "supposed enemy" dead, and would most surely flame Fresco for this speech, their vote is based on the most ridiculous reasons, they take part in deciding our future ...
ovaxova 10 months ago
@WJValente
Apparenly you have never been touched by true evil in the world. He personally accepted, and said, that he was the mastermind behind 3,000+ murders of innocent life. Live in your pseudo-intellectual little bubble my friend and cry out for your justice. I'm happy as could be over his death. Ignorance is bliss.
CrypticDruid 10 months ago
@CrypticDruid I understand both sides here. But Cryticdruid, you have to undestand that almost all people "infected" with the strong feelings of hate by either if something bad happens in their life or someone close dies, the feelings disturbs the way of thinking open and being open minded. Bringing Osama Bin Laden to "justice" or just taking him alive, and not making him a legend, a martyr for people in his value system would be better. However I know this would be rather impossible to do..
hcpiano 10 months ago
@hcpiano I disagree. Everything in life 'alters' our way of thinking every second of our lives. Being 'open minded' doesn't mean ignoring the facts, it is inclusive that you understand the facts. I was in Iraq and I know hatred. Not on my part, but outwards towards all Americans. If one single person on this Earth plans multiple attacks in the name of religion on innocent people and hides like a coward and fights to his death he is already a martyr. Only thing we can do is to end his life.
CrypticDruid 10 months ago
@CrypticDruid I tell you: it's simply because USA gov is the most terrorist in the world. Just check how many wars USA (gov) started.
ShittyAccount 10 months ago
@CrypticDruid "I'm as happy as could be over his death." TRUST me, it is YOU who is disturbed and living in a bubble, not me. I am not even a Christian and I know what is right versus wrong. 9/11 was an inside job. Do some research because you are way off base.
WJValente 10 months ago
@WJValente Disregard my previous comments, I wrote them before I realized that you are a complete and total fool. Go watch more video's of little kids hitting each other with baseball bats and drink your fluoride.
WJValente 10 months ago
@WJValente It's obvious the goverment lies, but 9/11 was not an inside job. You go do some research, everything has been debunked. It doesn't take rocket science in any case, to see how no one would claim that he did that, and Osama personally admited he was the mastermind behind all of this. To ignore that there is a real threat of global terrorism by crazy-ass muslims is ignoring reality. Remember that they are living on the middle ages. Remember how Christians did the same back in the day.
akais5 10 months ago
@WJValente You can now claim that Madrid terrorist attack at Atocha was also an inside job so I can laugh and call you a moron.
akais5 10 months ago
Only if people contributed something good to society every time Jacque gives out an enlightening lecture, instead of celebrating the death of a person, perhaps the world would be a better place...
S0up3rD0up3r 10 months ago 3
HA ha Jacque Fresco has done it again...
He proves over and over that logic overcomes the lies of government and criminals (usually the same people)...
Ramiromasters 10 months ago 3
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istheevilclown 10 months ago