Luke 11:52-54 NKJV “Woe to you lawyers! For you have taken away the key of knowledge. You did not enter in yourselves, and those who were entering in you hindered.” And as He said these things to them,[h] the scribes and the Pharisees began to assail Him vehemently, and to cross-examine Him about many things, lying in wait for Him, and seeking to catch Him in something He might say, that they might accuse Him.[i]
@Caicen I would rather inquire to your leader if she allows you to reveal her name in youtube. Might as well get a bread from Bro Eli than dead stones from you scoffer.
Matt 7:9 NKJV Or what man is there among you who, if his son asks for bread, will give him a stone?
I am grateful to God because he gave us Bro Eli who accepts and can answer all enquiries of courageous people based on the Holy Bible.
Try to reach him in his twitter "broelisoriano" and you'll get your bread.
@CAicenI would rather ask your leader if she allows you to reveal her name.
Matt 7:9 NKJV Or what man is there among you who, if his son asks for bread, will give him a stone? I am grateful to God because he gave us Bro Eli who accepts and can answers all enquiry of all brethren and non members based on the Holy Scriptures. Try to reach him in his twitter "broelisoriano" and you'll get your bread.
@elmansays Troll! Why would I say any name of ministers here. Is this the right forum for it? You only want to know that because you want to escape the REAL TOPIC here in these videos about revelation TV. And I told you long time ago if you want todebate about other topics, I cahllenge you to go to DEBATEdotORG, and yet you're coward to get serious about it. Get it over troll, your not so sensible preacher lost in this debate, thats why you want an escape route.
@Caicen I would rather inquire to your leader if she allows you to reveal her name in youtube. Might as well get a bread from Bro Eli than dead stones from you scoffer.
Matt 7:9 NKJV Or what man is there among you who, if his son asks for bread, will give him a stone?
I am grateful to God because he gave us Bro Eli who accepts and can answer all enquiries of courageous people based on the Holy Scriptures.
Try to reach him in his twitter "broelisoriano" and you'll get your bread.
@Caicen why, is your minister an ax dull while you're sharper than her? For the nth time will you tell us her name so we can inquire from her directly!
If the ax is dull, And one does not sharpen the edge, Then he must use more strength; But wisdom brings success. I might as well get a bread from Bro Eli than dead stones from you scoffer.
Matt 7:9 NKJV Or what man is there among you who, if his son asks for bread, will give him a stone?
@Caicen why, is your minister an ax dull while you're sharper than her? For the nth time will you tell us her name so we can inquire from her directly!
If the ax is dull, And one does not sharpen the edge, Then he must use more strength; But wisdom brings success. I might as well get a bread from Bro Eli than dead stones from you scoffer.
Matt 7:9 NKJV Or what man is there among you who, if his son asks for bread, will give him a stone?
Yeah Dr. Gradey BOMBARDED Bro Eli & didn't even know how to hold his TEMPER! hahah :D you know why Dr. Gradey? It is because, YOU ARE BEING BLINDED BY YOUR OWN INTERPRETATION, YOUR OWN FOOLISHNESS!!!!! Show it based on the Scriptures....you IDIOT!!
The problem of this show is obviously BIAS!!! You didn't give Bro Eli enough time to TALK and when this very PRESUMPTIVE Dr Gracey just so love to interrupt Bro Eli every time he explains his side from the Scripture. What the hell you think of yourself Dr. Gradey? It doesn't mean that you know what are you talking about same with you Mr. HOWARD, shut your speaking in tongues mouth & be FAIR!!!
@barneygurl08 Really the are biased? And what church do you belong to? Oh, mCoGi(ADD) I see. You must be looking at the mirror when you are typing that.
@barneygurl08 You are only making yourself look like someone trying to be funny, but no one is laughing. Obviously you are not serious and knows little of the debate between Eli and Grady.
@Caicen 10Many will be purified, made spotless and refined, but the WICKED will CONTINUE to be WICKED. NONE OF THE WICKED will understand, but those who are WISE will UNDERSTAND. - DANIEL 12:10 =)
Hey Dr Gradey we are just sooo TIRED of your STUPIDITY as well!!! No wonder that you are being misled the way your pastors preach for they are truly LIARS & HIDES the TRUTH...
12 and so that ALL will be CONDEMNED who have NOT BELIEVED the TRUTH but have DELIGHTED in WICKEDNESS. - 2 THESSALONIANS 2:12
pls remember that the main part of the discussion was that Dr Grady insists that death only came after the flood...how many years was the gap between Adam and Noah? is he implying that not one single animal died on that span of time?.. And how about what GOD told Adam "ON THE DAY that you eat of that fruit, YOU SHALL SURELY DIE"? ..what does GOD mean by that??? can you tell me what your belief have to say about that verse?
@edcanada69 Dude read the verse again "every beast of the earth", "every bird of the heavens and to everything that creeps on the earth" and "everything that has the breath of life" I have given every green plant for food.
Isn't this in the book of Genesis and in chapter ONE after the creation.
@edcanada69 Gen 1:29 And God said, "Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed that is on the face of all the earth, and every tree with seed in its fruit. You shall have them for food.
Gen 1:30 And to every beast of the earth and to every bird of the heavens and to everything that creeps on the earth, everything that has the breath of life, I have given every green plant for food." And it was so.
Dr Grady talked out his misreads about Bro Eli's writing. Same with Mr Howard, who misreads the Bible too. At Part 2 - 6 of 6, Bro Eli proved that these two confuse themselves and even the public, example Matt 19, was is about the beginning of creation, earth, or humanity? Bro Eli gave the public something to think about that these two already misunderstood.
For He whom God has sent speaks the words of God, for God does not give the Spirit by measure. John 3:34 NKJV
For He whom God has sent speaks the words of God, for God does not give the Spirit by measure. John 3:34 NKJV
Dr Grady talked out his misreads about Bro Eli's writing. Same with Mr Howard, who misreads the Bible too. At Part 2 - 6 of 6, Bro Eli proved that these two confuse themselves and even the public, example Matt 19, was is about the beginning of creation, earth, or humanity? Bro Eli gave the public something to think about that these two already misunderstood.
Dr Grady talked out his misreads about Bro Eli's writing. Same with Mr Howard, who misreads the Bible too. At Part 2 - 6 of 6, Bro Eli proved that these two confuse themselves and even the public, example Matt 19, was is about the beginning of creation, earth, or humanity? Bro Eli gave the public something to think about that these two already misunderstood.
For He whom God has sent speaks the words of God, for God does not give the Spirit by measure. John 3:34 NKJV
Dr Grady presented his misreads about Bro Eli's writing. Same with Mr Howard, who misreads the Bible too. At Part 2 - 6 of 6, Bro Eli proved that these two confuse themselves and even the public, example Matt 19, was is about the beginning of creation, earth, or humanity? Bro Eli gave the public something to think about that these two already misunderstood.
For He whom God has sent speaks the words of God, for God does not give the Spirit by measure. John 3:34 NKJV
@zaldyayag16 Typical ADD who doesn't even have an intelligent argument to spew. Just pure ignorance and arrogance. You can't even be civilised to your comments. It reflects the quality of preacher you have, by fruits you shall know the roots.
If you have the doctrines and teachings that Soriano taught you, then how come you can't defend it with yourself without pointing to Soriano. Your faith does'nt have a leg to stand on, as I expected from ADD.
@Caicen nakakaawa ka talaga hindi what if yun di ka talaga kilala nila....bakit ba naman kasi magtuturo ka ng tao na hindi mo naman kayang ilaban.....ayan supalpal ka tuloy ngayon.....kung hindi mo rin lang naman kayang i set for debate with Bro Eli preacher you better shut up nalang!!nakakaawa ka di ka kasi kayang ipag tanggol ng preacher mo!!
@zaldyayag16 Since when did you make "rules" of a debate? I've given their names because, you are so naive to think that Eli can beat anyone that he faces. Eli is just amateur apologist, i would even classify him below that. Do I need a preacher to help me EVERYTIME I have to reason out my beliefs. How about you can you stand on of what you believe in? Or do you need to dial Eli everytime. Your just a robot then. No actual faith on your own but faith in a man(Eli). Poor little child.
@zaldyayag16 You're a argument is fallacious little robot a strawman that is, when did I say that I would have William Lane Craig to have a debate on Eli, please show me, I believe you misunderstood me, because you are too emotional to even think straight.
I just gave you an insight that there are people who are far better than Eli. And if you watch their debates, you will know that Eli is just another crook preacher trying to make his own living by fooling the ignorant and uneducated.
@Caicen,jiggerman112004 ,salamat sa mga panglalait nyo kay Brod Eli dahil dyan natututpad sa kanya ang nakasulat sa Biblia Sa Mateo 5:11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.
@zaldyayag16 Using the same logic you gave, Mateo 5:11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.
Willy and Manalo and everyone that Eli maligns is also blessed.
The verse is not exclusive of Soriano, members of certain denomination have an equal right to use it when their preacher or messenger is also maligned. See you fail.
@Caicen Di mo ba naiintindihan ang sinabi ? Now I dare you....kahit sinu sa mga sinabi mo na yang mga "famous" daw sabi ng sanglibutan contact them set a debate to Bro Eli. message mo ako pag set na at ihaharap ko sa kanila si Bro Eli.....yan ang hirap sau kung sinu sinu sinasabi mo di ka naman kilala ng mga yan.....kasi ang puno mo nakatago sa aparador........kaya ikaw ang putak putak....nakakaawa ka naman.
@zaldyayag16 What they don't want to debate a "nobody" who will use that debate as publicity to gain popularity. What if they don't know me, so? There is no point in that. Unless you glory the man so much that you eagerly wanting to get notice personally, are you like that with Eli? No, I pity you, because obviously you dont have what it takes to be civilised or even make an argument for yourself. Like a little kid always running for his daddy for rescue.
To those against Bro Eli..ito challenge ko sa inyo palabasin nyo pastor or sinu mang namumuno sa inyo at makipag laban ng debate kay Bro eli para malaman natin kung sinu ang nakakaunawa........
@zaldyayag16 Do you know William Lane Craig? Or even C.S. Lewis, Barth Ehrman? Have you watch their debates? Do you think Eli can handle that, oh boy once they open their mouths all will be greek to Eli. Eli is just a preacher who uses google to find answers and copy doctrines. Want a challenge, then please dare me.
Dr Grady presented his misreads about Bro Eli's writing. Same with Mr Howard, who misreads the Bible too. At Part 2 - 6 of 6, Bro Eli proved that these two confuse themselves and even the public, example Matt 19, was is about the beginning of creation, earth, or humanity?
For He whom God has sent speaks the words of God, for God does not give the Spirit by measure. John 3:34 NKJV
The problem of Dr Grady is, as he testified above, that he misread Bro Eli's writings and then he argued about those writings. Same with Mr Howard, who misread the Bible too. So @Caicen what is the name of your preacher, the one who preached to you? Does she/he tweet or write a wordpress? How did they become preachers? Who proclaimed or assigned them to be as such?
For He whom God has sent speaks the words of God, for God does not give the Spirit by measure. John 3:34 NKJV
@elmansays Look at your post, that's why i labeled you as a troll. You never came here to reason but to insert different non related issues, to avoid further damage to the reputaion of your defeated "SELF proclaimed sugo" Soriano. All ADD's I hvave encountered are programmed to ask that questions. The same can be ask to your so called 'sugo" Who proclaimed Soriano, of course he would give a verse but that is all that is, everybody can do that. His god is a reflection of his personality.
@Caicen read and understand, Gen 2:4-6 NKJV This is the history of the heavens and the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens, before any plant of the field was in the earth and before any herb of the field had grown. For the LORD God had not caused it to rain on the earth, and there was no man to till the ground; but a mist went up from the earth and watered the whole face of the ground.
@elmansays So? We are talking about JOB right? How you manipulated the 2 statements. Troll never learns. You are beyond the abyss of understanding. Go live with your fantasies with Soriano, and may you live forever with him.
read again in capital Job 38 NKJV 1 Then the LORD answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said:2 “Who is this who darkens counsel By words without knowledge? 3 Now prepare yourself like a man; I will question you, and you shall answer Me.4 “WHERE WERE YOU WHEN I LAID THE FOUNDATIONS OF THE EARTH? Tell Me, if you have understanding. 39 “Can you hunt the prey for the lion,Or satisfy the appetite of the young lions, 40 When they crouch in their dens,Or lurk in their lairs to lie in wait?
@elmansays Wow that was 2 different statements, this elmansays is so ignorant of the bible. This is so funny. You were trying to connect the statement in verse for then 40 as if it was saying that Lions are carnivorous when God created them LOL! Nice try but a quick look at other verses, your eisegesis will FAIL! look at verse 34 "Can you lift up your voice to the clouds, that a flood of waters may cover you? God is making Job realize that he cannot question God for he is God.
@elmansays This is the most stupidest "connecting the dots" I've hav e ever encounter just to justify the calims that Lions were carnivorous before Noah's flood. Word for word definition of EISEGESIS! Elmansays FAILS AGAIN!
Job 38 NKJV 1 Then the LORD answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said:2 “Who is this who darkens counsel By words without knowledge? 3 Now prepare yourself like a man; I will question you, and you shall answer Me.4 “ Where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth? Tell Me, if you have understanding. 39 “Can you hunt the prey for the lion,Or satisfy the appetite of the young lions, 40 When they crouch in their dens,Or lurk in their lairs to lie in wait?
Part 2 - 1 of 6 of the 12-part-video tackles about Jesus Christ's genealogy as a basis for the creationist computations of humanity's age, but Bro Eli proved that these two other speakers are idle speaker as they are wrong to base the humanity's age and that of earth from Jesus Christ's genealogy.
“ He who corrects a scoffer gets shame for himself, And he who rebukes a wicked man only harms himself. Proverbs 9:7 NKJV
@elmansays NO one would take you seriously elman the liar. Lol how did Eli prove the computation is wrong, by selective science. Can you explain here what Eli said, for the benefit of those who will read this, how the genealogy is wrong in computing the humanity's age BASED ON BIBLICAL ACCOUNTS and HISTORICAL EVENTS? And please explain it USING ONLY THE BIBLE.
@elmansays You keep on posting Ei prove this and that, but you failed to REASON OUT WHY. But honestly i see through your scam, you're just afraid to give the detailed explanation of Eli, because that will expose the flaws of Eli's arguments. So again troll, you failed miserably.
Actually I still dont know about the matter If the Earth is already millions, or thousands only,Young or Old?but I agreeing some of Dr.Dravy`s Points rather than Eli,I know from the very Start that God will not create a Predator-Prey relationship,and his concepts that Carnivores are already created,He viewed the Present Chaotic Ecosystem as prefered by God already from the beginning which is hard to comprehend. I could even more believe that plants are the only food for Human and animals
@mayergenuiseprincess Yeah when i was young, I remember this book about the creation where you got to see pictures of lions and lambs and what we consider preys and predators today are living at peace. I guess science have made progress through the years to make some preachers or self proclaimed messengers of God to reinvent their belief to go with the trend. Even Catholics as of today believe in evolution. So what's next...
@Caicen the time I have watched Mr.Dravy I was very Impressed, When I was a kid I cannot Understand Why God will create an animal that kills for his hunger, when I was in a school like Secondary, I was making a realization that It is possible that they turned to Carnivores when their habitat is destroyed,The problem I didnt know how to defend my thinking,No one is supporting my Concepts.I was glad Mr.Dravy is there.Eli Soriano is bad throwing bad words to a lot of people pretending a genuise.
@mayergenuiseprincess 10 They have closed up their fat hearts; With their mouths they speak proudly. 11 They have now surrounded us in our steps; They have set their eyes, crouching down to the earth, 12 As a lion is eager to tear his prey, Psalm 17 NKJV And like a young lion lurking in secret places.
@elmansays You cited those verses in the state of were Lions are already Carnivores, But It doesnt have any implication that they already existed as Carnivore, How Can you put those Lions ,Tigers, Cheetah, Buffallo, Bull, Wild Dogs,Horses, and other wild animals in the Ark it they are already wild? Just like a man that can turns into a wild butis he really created wild? No, so just like animals, and Mr.Dravy has point reading the verse a kid was sitting besides the lion
@mayergenuiseprincess read again Job 38 NKJV 1 Then the LORD answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said:2 “Who is this who darkens counsel By words without knowledge? 3 Now prepare yourself like a man; I will question you, and you shall answer Me.4 “WHERE WERE YOU WHEN I LAID THE FOUNDATIONS OF THE EARTH? Tell Me, if you have understanding. 39 “Can you hunt the prey for the lion,Or satisfy the appetite of the young lions, 40 When they crouch in their dens,Or lurk in their lairs to lie in wait?
Oh C`mon Bro.Eli Soriano!!! name some scientists! I suggest you read Scientist`s Books,Works,Theories,discoveries,Inventions,ec. Stop reading BAsic Science High School Textbooks,HAHAAHA LOL
The Preacher sought to find acceptable words; and what was written was upright—words of truth.
1 Tim 4: 7 NKJV But reject profane and old wives’ fables, and exercise yourself toward godliness.10 For to this end we both labor and suffer reproach,[a] because we trust in the living God, who is the Savior of all men, especially of those who believe. 11 These things command and teach.
Bro Eli considers the Holy Scriptures faithfully that lead him to believe in science it supports.
@elmansays Yeah like discrediting Luke's account of genealogy by saying it's incomplete because that would contradict his belief in science that say's the earth is old. Great!
@Caicen yes thats why i also dont believe in soriano's teachings. But i also dont believe in evolution/creationism. Im agnostic and im open minded in such matters and draw my own conclusiond
On part 1 Soriano said he believe's in the consensus of scientist in the age of the earth, but at the same time rejected the consensus of scientist about evolution. Even in science Eli is well verse in picking what to believe and what not to believe, of course anything that would fit his agenda would be acceptable.
17 But the Lord stood with me and strengthened me, so that the message might be preached fully through me, and that all the Gentiles might hear. Also I was delivered out of the mouth of the lion. 18 And the Lord will deliver me from every evil work and preserve me for His heavenly kingdom. 2 Tim 4 NKJV
I believe Bro Eli is a blessed reader of the Holy Bible.
then where in the Bible that Lions are created Carnivores? How Could Noah put the Lions,tiger,Buffalo and so called Wild Animals into the ark if they are Carnivores or if it is possible that noah himself will be dangered to Lions?
@jhazpie I know that,whatsoever God doeth it shall be forever;nothing can be put to it,nor anything taken from it,and God Doeth it,that men should fear before him. Ecclesiastes 3:14,Where In this verse can you read That Lions are Carnivores already,The verse does not even refer to creatures,here implies that Gods motives,actions are all for the sake of Future & the word used is doeth which is present tense, Soriano fails to realize that carnivores are the result of destruction of their Habitat
@mayergenuiseprincess I think they're trying to put eisegesis on that verse, "doeth it shall be forever; nothing can be put to it nor anything taken from it"
They wildy interpret it as Lions are forever carnivorous and it never change. But as you put it, they were wrong, so wrong.
Dr.Dravy is not saying your a Evolutionary Atheist, but your concepts are just copied from Evolutionary Atheist, Eli Soriano You will just LOOSE if you continue justifying that animal-carnivores are already created by GOd,You failed to analyze that the present ecosystem is the result of destruction of Habitat or in a religious sense a result of Sins of Men.Didnt you realize why plants are the first created before Animals?Did God really meant to create a parasite-prey,killing weak-relationship?
@zirchsoft Soriano should review his Science lesson,Admit it,He is Stupid in Science,He only knows Basics that He copy from Evolutionary Atheism. I think He didint even know Carl Sagan,Adrian Clark, Alexandre Koyre,J Mitton and Brophy, Did you know them Do you want a science debate ?I know from the start He IS IDIOT IN SCIENCE, SORIANO-IDIOT, IDIOT, IDIOT, IDIOT, IDIOT
@mayergenuiseprincess u can have it if u think he is an idiot or whatever, I dont care much. anyway, I am not throwing bad words at u and u dont need to prove me your point. all I am saying is, if u are sooo good and show how knowledgeable you are, why can't you spell "Loose" correctly? FYI, It should be "Lose"
@zirchsoft Eli Soriano said that Fool are those who are lacking their knowledge, well Hes One of them, Hes lacking his knowledege not only in the Bible but on Science! Im sorry I got wrong Spelling,Im poor in our Universal Langguage but Im Good In Science Not like your False Prophet Soriano. Soriano IDIOT,IDIOT, IDIOT
@mayergenuiseprincess good science requires also good knowledge in english. I am not claiming to be good in science, and thats why I would not debate u in science. i would debate someone (if necessary) in things where I am knowledgeable. and pls, only bec. I have corrected your spelling, u dont need to be so defensive, do not assume my friend. most of all, stop calling names if you're supposed to be better than Eli. FYI, I am agnostic, so I dont defend any religion.
@zirchsoft Maybe he's just too emotional when he wrote that, that's why he got it wrong. But since you said you are agnostic, I guess that would closed it out.
@zirchsoft Oh Really! Albert Einstein the Pioneer and the Most well-Known Scientist is not good in English, actually he learn how to speak when he is already 7 if Im not mistaken,then how come you said it? and who told you Do you read it also from the Bible that Good In Science needs to be Good In English? REally really? really?
@mayergenuiseprincess u know that Einstein came from Germany, right? and in Germany, u start learning Englisch starting from the 5th grade, which means most kids start to learn it between 13-14 yrs. old. if Einstein started with 7 as u claim, then that would make him an early learner here. i know it bec. I grew up in Germany. To be knowledgeable in english for a scientist is obligatory. einstein knew that.
@zirchsoft SO Soriano is not surprisingly good in Science because you said that to be good in Science means to be good in english,I dont think so.!!! anyway Soriano maybe Idiot in Science and he admits also that He is not Good in English as You watched and finished the whole discussion.He said Hes not an English man.But the Problem is He Claim to be a good one in Science!
@mayergenuiseprincess he said on part 1 that he relies on other scientists and scientific findings, and he admitted that he is not a scientist and doesnt know all details. but he didnt say he is "good in science". and besides that, there is a difference between being "good" and "knowledgeable". notice that i never said that u have to be very good in english if u want to be a scientist. may kaalaman sa wikang ingles. u are confused my friend.
@zirchsoft That's why I doubt Soriano's being "the only sensible preacher of our time" as advertised by his members. He said "I do not know the details about that, but I am convinced by explanations of SCIENTISTS and by CONSTANT experimentation"
You don't know the details and YET you are "convinced"?
And if you really don't know the details, how did you know that the "CONSTANT EXPERIMENTATION" is UNFALSIFIABLE? As Jekkoism had poined out.
@zirchsoft tagalog tayo kapatid! here in the Philippines He Claimed Hes Good In science, and pangarap pa nga yan maging Scientist e. HE relies on other scientist??? Or he rely in High School textbook??? sige san at kaninong Scientist yung pinag-relyan nya!?to whom Scientist He Was relying on?Yan ang hirap sa puro High School textbook ang binabasa,hahaha! wala ngang nabanggit yang Sugo nyo na name ng Scientist e! haha wag kasi mag marunong!!!
@mayergenuiseprincess u got me mixed up again pre. hindi ko sugo yan, hindi ko rin sinasabi na magaling sya or maalam sa science or pinapaniwalaan ko yung arguments niya. get that into your brain, u keep on assuming and claiming. again, i will say this one more time: I am agnostic. do u know what that means? so stop your false accusations, you are barking at the wrong tree my friend
@mayergenuiseprincess "and who told you Do you read it also from the Bible that Good In Science needs to be Good In English?" - thats a lame argument. if we follow ur logic, ill ask u also: can u read in the bible or quran that u have to know good science? and why science? why not engineering or programming? pls dude, do not start a debate with me, bec. i am not your enemy, trust me.
Obviously Soriano is needing a lot of review.He cannot answer those scientific questions. Bakit di ka makapag-mura ngayon? minumura mo ang may maling aral, o kung mali aral nya bakit di ka maksagot?whahaha
SHEESH I found out that ADD's are all the same, they use the same tactic, "What is your religious organization?". In every discussion, this is there way of escape when they get cornered by logic, a COP OUT. See for yourself a brethren of your's is making the same demand against his opponent, Go to "Bro. Eli Soriano debate @ Revelation TV" by theologianZ. You will find a name "HotHubbies" he say's; "you don't reveal your religious affiliation, why? are you ashamed of your religious organization?
to howard:the moderator is not a moderator, he is also commented and not listening as a moderator he don't know how to moderate this kind of of debate...
@elmansays I'll play you're little game. I can tell you his/her name, but ONLY if you can give me an outside source that Eli is the most slandered christian in the history of christianity. I need mathematical calculation of how did you arrive at those data, and cite your sources. If you can't provide that then you're self proclaimed preacher is the most DELUDED christian in the entire history of christianity, no one ever claimed that in the history of christianity. A data you can never produce.
Dr Grady testified above that he even reads Bro Eli's writings, the problem is he shown here how he misread them and argue about it. That's how he and Mr Howard misread the Bible too. So @Caicen what is the name of your preacher, the one who preached to you? Does she/he tweet or write a wordpress? How did they become preachers? Who proclaimed or assigned them to be as such?
For He whom God has sent speaks the words of God, for God does not give the Spirit by measure. John 3:34 NKJV
@elmansays what is the name of your preacher, the one who preached to you?
Does she/he tweet or write a wordpress?
How did they become preachers? Who proclaimed or assigned them to be as such?
Oh and you still have'nt got a clue....
What's next after that,
Who are my friends?
Who is my first gradeschool teacher?
How cute, but all there is, is you're lack of ability to comprehend what i'm saying. Go get some real education, don't always listen to a highshool dropout.
@elmansays You are a CERTIFIED TROLL! Asking question that are irrlevant to the videos here and the cycle never ends. And always in a hurry to spew accusations at me without giving evidence, even when you challenge him to produce one. Having the need to fabricate lies just to cover his asinine comments. Never runs out of "Cop out" whenever cornered with his failed arguments. Sigh... the quality of ADD member goes on to show the quality of what false deluded preacher they have.
@elamansays Oh here's where I said that Im right all along about you're tactics, check Revelation TV Part 2- 6 of 6 it's 2wks ago
I said;
"SO what's next troll, ask for our collection? Our doctrines? Our Worship schedules?"
And then you prove me right 2 days ago.
You said;
"so what is the name of your preacher, the one who preached to you? Does she/he tweet or write a wordpress? How did they become preachers? Who proclaimed or assigned them to be as such"
@Caice so what is the name of your preacher, the one who preached to you? Does she/he tweet or write a wordpress? How did they become preachers? Who proclaimed or assigned them to be as such? Dr Grady that testified above that he even reads Bro Eli's writings, the problem is he shown here how he misread them and argue about it. That's how he and Mr Howard misread the Bible too.
For He whom God has sent speaks the words of God, for God does not give the Spirit by measure. John 3:34 NKJV
@elmansays BANG! Do you knew what you have just done? YOU HAVE PROVE MY CASE AGAINST YOU! I've been right all along about you're motives. THAT IS THE REASON WHY I WOULD NOT GIVE IN TO YOUR DIVERSIONARY TACTICS, RED HERRINGS! See if I answer you're irrelevant question, you would not stop there, it would be an endless cycles of irrelevant questions to divert the issue because YOU KNEW from the start that Eli have failed in this debate. That's why you wanted and tried harder to divert the issue.
@elmansays I gave you the reason why I would'nt answer irrelevant issues, you will not stop asking irrelevant questions I even gave you an example. And look what you just did, you just showed here in youtube that, I am right about you all along. You are a SCAM!
@Caicen how can your arguments stand against biblical reason and logic? What is wrong with asking who your preacher, your authority is with a purpose to test that he/she is not like Dr Grady who constructs arguments out of misreadings and own theology? He even cited none Christians to impress numbers to his belief.
I know that whatever God does, It shall be forever. Nothing can be added to it, And nothing taken from it. God does it, that men should fear before Him. Ecclesiastes 3:14
@elmansays In my church we dont have self proclaimed messengers, we dont have apostles, but we do have a lot of preachers. But again elmansays it is irrelevant to the issue, you know how i demolished the arguments of Eli in the videos, why dont you just address that, oh you cant, TROLL!
@elmansays What? I will not fall for you're dishonest fallacious arguments. You are misleading people here with your lies elmansays. Why would I believe something that my religion doesn't support? You just want to know the name of my preacher and from there start another topic which is irrelevant to the videos so you can escape the folly of your not so sensible preacher Eli. If you can't refute ALL of my arguments that I have posted, then MY ARGUMENTS STANDS. You are just trolling, hypoccrite.
@Caicen you invented possible answers of Bro Eli in your mind. You are spreading your misconceptions and out of context comprehensions about what were said. and you refused to go to his twitter.com/ BroEliSoriano for his own biblical answers. You even invented the reason of my actions.
A scoffer seeks wisdom and does not find it, But knowledge is easy to him who understands. Proverbs 14:6
A scoffer seeks wisdom and does not find it, But knowledge is easy to him who understands. Proverbs 14:6
@elmansays Why would I go to his twitter acount you doubletalk. I do not consider Eli as an authority to get all the answers, he is fallacious with a mouth that is filthy. I'll destroy your logic, If you are doubtful of Quiboloy being the Son of man here on earth why don't you ask himself personally, oh you can't and you wont even try because you very well know he is a fraud. See why would I go to Eli's twitter he is a fraud. You can't even go to INC to ask questions. You doubletalking hypocrite
@elmansays (Cont) I invented possible answers? Oh please tell me where? can't you point exactly where did I make that invented answers. And where did I put Eli out of context, show me. Unless you can't show me where i did that, YOU ARE SPREADING LIES! You can;t show specifically because, you know for yourself that I will definitely win that argument. DOUBLETALK HYPOCRITE!
I know that whatever God does, It shall be forever. Nothing can be added to it, And nothing taken from it. God does it, that men should fear before Him.
@Caicen I also could speak as you do, If your soul were in my soul’s place. I could heap up words against you, And shake my head at you; Job 16:14 NKJV I know that whatever God does, It shall be forever. Nothing can be added to it, And nothing taken from it. God does it, that men should fear before Him. Ecclesiastes 3:14 NKJV
Psalm 78:39 NKJV
For He remembered that they were but flesh,
A breath that passes away and does not come again.
IF THEY ONLY KNOW HOW UNCONDITIONALLY KIND THE BROS. AND SISTERS IN THE CHURCH OF GOD. YOU CAN SEE AND FEEL IT IN THEIR HOLY EYES. THESE TWO BRITS HAVE PRE CONCEIVED IDEAS.
@manggerry Wow talk about pre concieved ideas, Eli is full of it in these videos. Wanna try me. Seriously, you talk about how kind you're brothers and sisters in you're church and yet here you are typing in all "caps lock". Is your caps lock button broken?
mr. howard and dr. grady, BIAS, u are unjustly manipulating the program, u dont give way to bro. eli. and u mr. howard u cut and change topic right away and pass the question to dr. grady. u insist ur belief but u cant defend it. why are u like that?
@elmansays MGA ADD HINAHAMON KO KAYO SA NGALAN NG SATANAS AT BAKLA NYONG SUGO NA ELISEA "BAKLITA" SORIANO NA MAGLABAS KAYO NA MAS LULUMA PA SA "Oxyrhynchus Papyri" NA KOPYA NG REVELATION NA 666 ANG TUNAY NA NUMBER NG BEAST AT HINDI 616. DAHIL AYON MISMO SA CONSENSUS NG MGA SCHOLARS NA ANG TAMANG SALIN AY 616! KAYA KAYONG MGA HINAYUPAK NA ADD AY KAMPON AT TAGAPAGMANA NI SATANAS PATI KURIKONG NI SATANAS INYONG PAG-AARI! MGA GAGO!
Proverbs 24 (New King James Version) 1 Do not be envious of evil men,
Nor desire to be with them; 2 For their heart devises violence, And their lips talk of troublemaking. 3 Through wisdom a house is built, And by understanding it is established; 4 By knowledge the rooms are filled With all precious and pleasant riches.
>ung mga kagaya ni Alcazar na madidilim ang utak gaya ng mga Iglesia ni MANALO na taga diliman ay ndi na pinapatulan... dahil wala ng matinong masabi yang mga yan... napaghahalata lang kung anong klaseng PUNO meron sila. BOBO na wala pang MUDO! palibhasa ndi kayang gawin ng PUNO nila ang ginagawa ni Bro. Eli na kahit saan siya pumunta handang humarap with all his knowledge in the Bible. kaya puro paninira nalang ang alam nilang gawin pero pagdating sa aral wala silang ibubuga! puro hangin...
@mjC2686 MGA ADD HINAHAMON KO KAYO SA NGALAN NG SATANAS AT BAKLA NYONG SUGO NA ELISEA "BAKLITA" SORIANO NA MAGLABAS KAYO NA MAS LULUMA PA SA "Oxyrhynchus Papyri" NA KOPYA NG REVELATION NA 666 ANG TUNAY NA NUMBER NG BEAST AT HINDI 616. DAHIL AYON MISMO SA CONSENSUS NG MGA SCHOLARS NA ANG TAMANG SALIN AY 616! KAYA KAYONG MGA HINAYUPAK NA ADD AY KAMPON AT TAGAPAGMANA NI SATANAS PATI KURIKONG NI SATANAS INYONG PAG-AARI! MGA GAGO!
I know that whatever God does, It shall be forever. Nothing can be added to it, And nothing taken from it. God does it, that men should fear before Him.
Bro. Eli was biblical all through out. It is Dr Grady who ranted, raved and muttered allegations that Bro. Eli teaches heresy and it is Dr Grady who even attacked personally saying Bro Eli negates biblical teachings and even group him to evolutionists. It is Dr Grady who teaches heresies and his own theology saying that there is no death before Adam sinned and all animals are vegetarian, there are no carnivorous and just became one like the lion after the flood which Eccle 3:14 says otherwise.
@elmansays MGA ADD HINAHAMON KO KAYO SA NGALAN NG SATANAS AT BAKLA NYONG SUGO NA ELISEA "BAKLITA" SORIANO NA MAGLABAS KAYO NA MAS LULUMA PA SA "Oxyrhynchus Papyri" NA KOPYA NG REVELATION NA 666 ANG TUNAY NA NUMBER NG BEAST AT HINDI 616. DAHIL AYON MISMO SA CONSENSUS NG MGA SCHOLARS NA ANG TAMANG SALIN AY 616! KAYA KAYONG MGA HINAYUPAK NA ADD AY KAMPON AT TAGAPAGMANA NI SATANAS PATI KURIKONG NI SATANAS INYONG PAG-AARI! MGA GAGO!
@Alcazar0227 lahat ng mga comment mo halatang bobo ka. walang alam at basura ka ng youtube. walang biro sarap mo talagang ibuhol sa video ni suriano. lol!
@Alcazar0227 magbaril na lng kayo sa sarili nyo. katulad ng pinuno nyo. dahil pinag sisikapan nyong itumba si suriano, di nyo madale. magdagdag pa kayo ng marami pang death squad. baka madali nyo na si suriano.
@pump0919 It was not Dr. Gravy who've said that but the writer in GENESIS 1:30 so please keep you're opinion to yourself if you don't have anything to say biblical.
@Caicen - Gen 1:30 is just a part of the bible... Studying the body structure of Lions and the enzymes that the Lions can produce during their digestion, you will come into conclusion that God intended Lions to eat meat. They are not capable of producing enzymes that can digest the cellulose present in green leaves.
yea y not put gravy in a cage with the lions with a vegetable beside him..see what happens...mayb d lion wud change his evolution mind n remember that he is a vegetarian?
I WISH to see a robotic plants n animals...just as these silly scientist claim...mayb in the future bt not in the past! funny scientist...good theologian bro.eli!
all animals r like robots??? so if i believe evolution dey may soon be a ROBOTS for real...what kind of logic cud an evolutionist have! Gravy n howard nid to go back to old skul ideas!
GET A LIFE ....GRAVY! DONT STAY HOME TOO MCH! if u cn fool others bt u cnt fool me with ur DOCTORATE DEGREE...IF all scientist r like u, man, surely we wil b in trouble!
@GREDDY , U HAVE NOW BASIS ON WHAT UR BLUBBERING ABOUT! U R NOT A THEOLOGIAN U HAVE NO VERSES BY UR CLAIMS! U R A FAKE SCIENTIST BEC U CNT PROVE UR STATMENTS ......R U DRUNK OR SOMETHING???
4. Eli cited "Lucy" as a proof that humans existed millions of years ago, so can you explain if or if not "Lucy" is part of the salvation of humans, considering he's a hominid?
5. is Adam a hominid? He can't be homo sapien, beacause in biology, hominid is an ancestor of homo sapiens.
6. If he's a homo sapien, are there any fossils that dates back millions of years old?
it is clear that dr grady is the one who declares statements without basis scientifically and biblically. But if we will notice him as though he's so sure of what he's saying. he's a self appointed wise man but in reality if we will analyze what he's saying he's a fool. and he's accusing or judging Bro Eli of using other's thoughts. dr grady is beig judgemntal. how can he be sure that bro. Eli got his thinking from other people or some sort of evolutionary scientist. all dr grady says is a lie
6. dr grady says that bro Eli is in line with some falvu man or woman which i don't understand but in here we can see that he's the one attacking Bro. Eli personally. what he is doing he's pointing to Bro. Eli. Here he's wrong again.
7. he says that plants and animals do not die and they do not have soul, insects are little robots. this is a big mistake again for it is written in the Bible that every living creature has a soul . Job 12:10 says that every living thing has a soul.
well we did not lived before to witness about it but discoveries and scientific evidences shows us that many animals or species were extinct even before man appeared on earth. and as Bro Eli points out of course lions before already eats animals of their prey, and they die of course. this is how nature goes even before, the survival of the fittest . And it's how nature balances itself as designed by God!!
5. dr grady says that the idea that physical death occured even before the creation of adam and eve is a false teaching. Well personally I believe that dinosaurs had lived and died long before adam and eve were created on earth. Modern science supports this . In fact you cannot find a fossil of man that is as old as a fossil of dinosaur. Dinosaur's fossils are i think millions of years older than fossils of man, as science discoveries shows. well i am not a scientist.
dr grady's mistakes continued- balanced in nature. the structure of their teeth , claws and even their digestive track, the whole of them shows that they were really meant to eat meat.
4-he says all of the land animals from creation before the time of the flood were vegetarian according to the Bible.. wrong again, nowhere inthe Bible that you could read this statement. in Gen 1:24-25 God already created the beasts in animals. Even long before the flood they are talking about.
dr grady's mistakes continued-Bro Eli does not teach heresy because he's just explaining that if it's a physical death that reigned after it has reigned then there should be no more physical death. But up to now there is physical death.
3. dr grady says that lions lived as vegetarians in old times, oh no a big foolishness. It is impossible for lions to be vegetarians if you will study their physical built they were really meant to eat flesh. they were meant by God to be like this to preserve -
Luke 11:52-54 NKJV “Woe to you lawyers! For you have taken away the key of knowledge. You did not enter in yourselves, and those who were entering in you hindered.” And as He said these things to them,[h] the scribes and the Pharisees began to assail Him vehemently, and to cross-examine Him about many things, lying in wait for Him, and seeking to catch Him in something He might say, that they might accuse Him.[i]
elmansays 1 month ago
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@Caicen I would rather inquire to your leader if she allows you to reveal her name in youtube. Might as well get a bread from Bro Eli than dead stones from you scoffer.
Matt 7:9 NKJV Or what man is there among you who, if his son asks for bread, will give him a stone?
I am grateful to God because he gave us Bro Eli who accepts and can answer all enquiries of courageous people based on the Holy Bible.
Try to reach him in his twitter "broelisoriano" and you'll get your bread.
elmansays 1 month ago
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@Caicen I would rather inquire to your leader if she allows you to reveal her name in youtube.
Matt 7:9 NKJV Or what man is there among you who, if his son asks for bread, will give him a stone?
I am grateful to God because he gave us Bro Eli who accepts and can answer all enquiry of all brethren and non members based on the Holy Scriptures.
Try to reach him in his twitter "broelisoriano" and you'll get your bread.
elmansays 1 month ago
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@CAicenI would rather ask your leader if she allows you to reveal her name.
Matt 7:9 NKJV Or what man is there among you who, if his son asks for bread, will give him a stone? I am grateful to God because he gave us Bro Eli who accepts and can answers all enquiry of all brethren and non members based on the Holy Scriptures. Try to reach him in his twitter "broelisoriano" and you'll get your bread.
elmansays 1 month ago
@Caicen how long will you scoff people here in youtube, likewise say nothing about your clandestine ministry and ministers?
Proverbs 13:1 NKJV
A wise son heeds his father’s instruction, But a scoffer does not listen to rebuke.
elmansays 1 month ago
@elmansays Troll! Why would I say any name of ministers here. Is this the right forum for it? You only want to know that because you want to escape the REAL TOPIC here in these videos about revelation TV. And I told you long time ago if you want todebate about other topics, I cahllenge you to go to DEBATEdotORG, and yet you're coward to get serious about it. Get it over troll, your not so sensible preacher lost in this debate, thats why you want an escape route.
Caicen 1 month ago
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@Caicen I would rather inquire to your leader if she allows you to reveal her name in youtube. Might as well get a bread from Bro Eli than dead stones from you scoffer.
Matt 7:9 NKJV Or what man is there among you who, if his son asks for bread, will give him a stone?
I am grateful to God because he gave us Bro Eli who accepts and can answer all enquiries of courageous people based on the Holy Scriptures.
Try to reach him in his twitter "broelisoriano" and you'll get your bread.
elmansays 1 month ago
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@Caicen why, is your minister an ax dull while you're sharper than her? For the nth time will you tell us her name so we can inquire from her directly!
Ecclesiastes 10:10 NKJV
If the ax is dull, And one does not sharpen the edge, Then he must use more strength; But wisdom brings success. I might as well get a bread from Bro Eli than dead stones from you scoffer.
Matt 7:9 NKJV Or what man is there among you who, if his son asks for bread, will give him a stone?
elmansays 1 month ago
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@Caicen why, is your minister an ax dull while you're sharper than her? For the nth time will you tell us her name so we can inquire from her directly!
Ecclesiastes 10:10 NKJV
If the ax is dull, And one does not sharpen the edge, Then he must use more strength; But wisdom brings success. I might as well get a bread from Bro Eli than dead stones from you scoffer.
Matt 7:9 NKJV Or what man is there among you who, if his son asks for bread, will give him a stone?
elmansays 1 month ago
Yeah Dr. Gradey BOMBARDED Bro Eli & didn't even know how to hold his TEMPER! hahah :D you know why Dr. Gradey? It is because, YOU ARE BEING BLINDED BY YOUR OWN INTERPRETATION, YOUR OWN FOOLISHNESS!!!!! Show it based on the Scriptures....you IDIOT!!
barneygurl08 1 month ago
The problem of this show is obviously BIAS!!! You didn't give Bro Eli enough time to TALK and when this very PRESUMPTIVE Dr Gracey just so love to interrupt Bro Eli every time he explains his side from the Scripture. What the hell you think of yourself Dr. Gradey? It doesn't mean that you know what are you talking about same with you Mr. HOWARD, shut your speaking in tongues mouth & be FAIR!!!
barneygurl08 1 month ago
@barneygurl08 Really the are biased? And what church do you belong to? Oh, mCoGi(ADD) I see. You must be looking at the mirror when you are typing that.
Caicen 1 month ago
@Caicen really...?? I know, and you BETTER buy one for YOU! :)
barneygurl08 1 month ago
@barneygurl08 You are only making yourself look like someone trying to be funny, but no one is laughing. Obviously you are not serious and knows little of the debate between Eli and Grady.
Caicen 1 month ago
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@Caicen 10Many will be purified, made spotless and refined, but the WICKED will CONTINUE to be WICKED. NONE OF THE WICKED will understand, but those who are WISE will UNDERSTAND. - DANIEL 12:10 =)
barneygurl08 1 month ago
Hey Dr Gradey we are just sooo TIRED of your STUPIDITY as well!!! No wonder that you are being misled the way your pastors preach for they are truly LIARS & HIDES the TRUTH...
12 and so that ALL will be CONDEMNED who have NOT BELIEVED the TRUTH but have DELIGHTED in WICKEDNESS. - 2 THESSALONIANS 2:12
barneygurl08 1 month ago
pls remember that the main part of the discussion was that Dr Grady insists that death only came after the flood...how many years was the gap between Adam and Noah? is he implying that not one single animal died on that span of time?.. And how about what GOD told Adam "ON THE DAY that you eat of that fruit, YOU SHALL SURELY DIE"? ..what does GOD mean by that??? can you tell me what your belief have to say about that verse?
edcanada69 2 months ago
which part of the verse tells you tht all animals started out as vegetarian? please enlighten me
edcanada69 2 months ago
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@edcanada69 Dude read the verse again "every beast of the earth", "every bird of the heavens and to everything that creeps on the earth" and "everything that has the breath of life" I have given every green plant for food.
Isn't this in the book of Genesis and in chapter ONE after the creation.
Does "every green plant" sounds meaty to you?
Caicen 1 month ago
all animals started as vegetarian? how can you prove that? is that an intelligent argument ? where did you get that information?
edcanada69 2 months ago
@edcanada69 Gen 1:29 And God said, "Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed that is on the face of all the earth, and every tree with seed in its fruit. You shall have them for food.
Gen 1:30 And to every beast of the earth and to every bird of the heavens and to everything that creeps on the earth, everything that has the breath of life, I have given every green plant for food." And it was so.
Now how do you disprove that verse?
Caicen 2 months ago
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Dr Grady talked out his misreads about Bro Eli's writing. Same with Mr Howard, who misreads the Bible too. At Part 2 - 6 of 6, Bro Eli proved that these two confuse themselves and even the public, example Matt 19, was is about the beginning of creation, earth, or humanity? Bro Eli gave the public something to think about that these two already misunderstood.
For He whom God has sent speaks the words of God, for God does not give the Spirit by measure. John 3:34 NKJV
elmansays 2 months ago
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For He whom God has sent speaks the words of God, for God does not give the Spirit by measure. John 3:34 NKJV
Dr Grady talked out his misreads about Bro Eli's writing. Same with Mr Howard, who misreads the Bible too. At Part 2 - 6 of 6, Bro Eli proved that these two confuse themselves and even the public, example Matt 19, was is about the beginning of creation, earth, or humanity? Bro Eli gave the public something to think about that these two already misunderstood.
elmansays 2 months ago
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Dr Grady talked out his misreads about Bro Eli's writing. Same with Mr Howard, who misreads the Bible too. At Part 2 - 6 of 6, Bro Eli proved that these two confuse themselves and even the public, example Matt 19, was is about the beginning of creation, earth, or humanity? Bro Eli gave the public something to think about that these two already misunderstood.
For He whom God has sent speaks the words of God, for God does not give the Spirit by measure. John 3:34 NKJV
elmansays 2 months ago
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Dr Grady presented his misreads about Bro Eli's writing. Same with Mr Howard, who misreads the Bible too. At Part 2 - 6 of 6, Bro Eli proved that these two confuse themselves and even the public, example Matt 19, was is about the beginning of creation, earth, or humanity? Bro Eli gave the public something to think about that these two already misunderstood.
For He whom God has sent speaks the words of God, for God does not give the Spirit by measure. John 3:34 NKJV
elmansays 2 months ago
@ Caicen sige na ikaw na ang magaling!!!at kung walang tanga at Bobo akuin mo narin...sayang ang oras ko sau ito Piso bumili ka ng kausap mo ^_^
zaldyayag16 2 months ago
@zaldyayag16 Typical ADD who doesn't even have an intelligent argument to spew. Just pure ignorance and arrogance. You can't even be civilised to your comments. It reflects the quality of preacher you have, by fruits you shall know the roots.
If you have the doctrines and teachings that Soriano taught you, then how come you can't defend it with yourself without pointing to Soriano. Your faith does'nt have a leg to stand on, as I expected from ADD.
Caicen 2 months ago
@Caicen nakakaawa ka talaga hindi what if yun di ka talaga kilala nila....bakit ba naman kasi magtuturo ka ng tao na hindi mo naman kayang ilaban.....ayan supalpal ka tuloy ngayon.....kung hindi mo rin lang naman kayang i set for debate with Bro Eli preacher you better shut up nalang!!nakakaawa ka di ka kasi kayang ipag tanggol ng preacher mo!!
zaldyayag16 2 months ago
@zaldyayag16 Since when did you make "rules" of a debate? I've given their names because, you are so naive to think that Eli can beat anyone that he faces. Eli is just amateur apologist, i would even classify him below that. Do I need a preacher to help me EVERYTIME I have to reason out my beliefs. How about you can you stand on of what you believe in? Or do you need to dial Eli everytime. Your just a robot then. No actual faith on your own but faith in a man(Eli). Poor little child.
Caicen 2 months ago
@zaldyayag16 You're a argument is fallacious little robot a strawman that is, when did I say that I would have William Lane Craig to have a debate on Eli, please show me, I believe you misunderstood me, because you are too emotional to even think straight.
I just gave you an insight that there are people who are far better than Eli. And if you watch their debates, you will know that Eli is just another crook preacher trying to make his own living by fooling the ignorant and uneducated.
Caicen 2 months ago
@Caicen,jiggerman112004 ,salamat sa mga panglalait nyo kay Brod Eli dahil dyan natututpad sa kanya ang nakasulat sa Biblia Sa Mateo 5:11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.
zaldyayag16 2 months ago
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@zaldyayag16 Using the same logic you gave, Mateo 5:11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.
Willy and Manalo and everyone that Eli maligns is also blessed.
The verse is not exclusive of Soriano, members of certain denomination have an equal right to use it when their preacher or messenger is also maligned. See you fail.
Caicen 2 months ago
@Caicen Di mo ba naiintindihan ang sinabi ? Now I dare you....kahit sinu sa mga sinabi mo na yang mga "famous" daw sabi ng sanglibutan contact them set a debate to Bro Eli. message mo ako pag set na at ihaharap ko sa kanila si Bro Eli.....yan ang hirap sau kung sinu sinu sinasabi mo di ka naman kilala ng mga yan.....kasi ang puno mo nakatago sa aparador........kaya ikaw ang putak putak....nakakaawa ka naman.
zaldyayag16 2 months ago
@zaldyayag16 What they don't want to debate a "nobody" who will use that debate as publicity to gain popularity. What if they don't know me, so? There is no point in that. Unless you glory the man so much that you eagerly wanting to get notice personally, are you like that with Eli? No, I pity you, because obviously you dont have what it takes to be civilised or even make an argument for yourself. Like a little kid always running for his daddy for rescue.
Caicen 2 months ago
To those against Bro Eli..ito challenge ko sa inyo palabasin nyo pastor or sinu mang namumuno sa inyo at makipag laban ng debate kay Bro eli para malaman natin kung sinu ang nakakaunawa........
zaldyayag16 2 months ago
@zaldyayag16 Do you know William Lane Craig? Or even C.S. Lewis, Barth Ehrman? Have you watch their debates? Do you think Eli can handle that, oh boy once they open their mouths all will be greek to Eli. Eli is just a preacher who uses google to find answers and copy doctrines. Want a challenge, then please dare me.
Caicen 2 months ago
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Dr Grady presented his misreads about Bro Eli's writing. Same with Mr Howard, who misreads the Bible too. At Part 2 - 6 of 6, Bro Eli proved that these two confuse themselves and even the public, example Matt 19, was is about the beginning of creation, earth, or humanity?
For He whom God has sent speaks the words of God, for God does not give the Spirit by measure. John 3:34 NKJV
elmansays 3 months ago
Stupid Cult leader Elie Sorriano your so stupid...
jiggerman112004 3 months ago
@Caicen
1 Corinthians 10:30 NKJV
But if I partake with thanks, why am I evil spoken of for the food over which I give thanks?
Hebrews 13:7
NKJV Remember those who rule over you, who have spoken the word of God to you, whose faith follow, considering the outcome of their conduct.
Matt 7:20 NKJV Therefore by their fruits you will know them.
elmansays 3 months ago
@elmansays Wow! I'm out words. Your trolling is beyond measurable.
Caicen 2 months ago
The problem of Dr Grady is, as he testified above, that he misread Bro Eli's writings and then he argued about those writings. Same with Mr Howard, who misread the Bible too. So @Caicen what is the name of your preacher, the one who preached to you? Does she/he tweet or write a wordpress? How did they become preachers? Who proclaimed or assigned them to be as such?
For He whom God has sent speaks the words of God, for God does not give the Spirit by measure. John 3:34 NKJV
elmansays 3 months ago
@elmansays Look at your post, that's why i labeled you as a troll. You never came here to reason but to insert different non related issues, to avoid further damage to the reputaion of your defeated "SELF proclaimed sugo" Soriano. All ADD's I hvave encountered are programmed to ask that questions. The same can be ask to your so called 'sugo" Who proclaimed Soriano, of course he would give a verse but that is all that is, everybody can do that. His god is a reflection of his personality.
Caicen 3 months ago
@Caicen read and understand, Gen 2:4-6 NKJV This is the history of the heavens and the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens, before any plant of the field was in the earth and before any herb of the field had grown. For the LORD God had not caused it to rain on the earth, and there was no man to till the ground; but a mist went up from the earth and watered the whole face of the ground.
elmansays 3 months ago
@elmansays So? We are talking about JOB right? How you manipulated the 2 statements. Troll never learns. You are beyond the abyss of understanding. Go live with your fantasies with Soriano, and may you live forever with him.
Caicen 3 months ago
read again in capital Job 38 NKJV 1 Then the LORD answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said:2 “Who is this who darkens counsel By words without knowledge? 3 Now prepare yourself like a man; I will question you, and you shall answer Me.4 “WHERE WERE YOU WHEN I LAID THE FOUNDATIONS OF THE EARTH? Tell Me, if you have understanding. 39 “Can you hunt the prey for the lion,Or satisfy the appetite of the young lions, 40 When they crouch in their dens,Or lurk in their lairs to lie in wait?
elmansays 3 months ago
@elmansays Wow that was 2 different statements, this elmansays is so ignorant of the bible. This is so funny. You were trying to connect the statement in verse for then 40 as if it was saying that Lions are carnivorous when God created them LOL! Nice try but a quick look at other verses, your eisegesis will FAIL! look at verse 34 "Can you lift up your voice to the clouds, that a flood of waters may cover you? God is making Job realize that he cannot question God for he is God.
Caicen 3 months ago
@elmansays This is the most stupidest "connecting the dots" I've hav e ever encounter just to justify the calims that Lions were carnivorous before Noah's flood. Word for word definition of EISEGESIS! Elmansays FAILS AGAIN!
Caicen 3 months ago
Job 38 NKJV 1 Then the LORD answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said:2 “Who is this who darkens counsel By words without knowledge? 3 Now prepare yourself like a man; I will question you, and you shall answer Me.4 “ Where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth? Tell Me, if you have understanding. 39 “Can you hunt the prey for the lion,Or satisfy the appetite of the young lions, 40 When they crouch in their dens,Or lurk in their lairs to lie in wait?
elmansays 3 months ago
Part 2 - 1 of 6 of the 12-part-video tackles about Jesus Christ's genealogy as a basis for the creationist computations of humanity's age, but Bro Eli proved that these two other speakers are idle speaker as they are wrong to base the humanity's age and that of earth from Jesus Christ's genealogy.
“ He who corrects a scoffer gets shame for himself, And he who rebukes a wicked man only harms himself. Proverbs 9:7 NKJV
elmansays 3 months ago
@elmansays NO one would take you seriously elman the liar. Lol how did Eli prove the computation is wrong, by selective science. Can you explain here what Eli said, for the benefit of those who will read this, how the genealogy is wrong in computing the humanity's age BASED ON BIBLICAL ACCOUNTS and HISTORICAL EVENTS? And please explain it USING ONLY THE BIBLE.
Caicen 3 months ago
@elmansays You keep on posting Ei prove this and that, but you failed to REASON OUT WHY. But honestly i see through your scam, you're just afraid to give the detailed explanation of Eli, because that will expose the flaws of Eli's arguments. So again troll, you failed miserably.
Caicen 3 months ago
Actually I still dont know about the matter If the Earth is already millions, or thousands only,Young or Old?but I agreeing some of Dr.Dravy`s Points rather than Eli,I know from the very Start that God will not create a Predator-Prey relationship,and his concepts that Carnivores are already created,He viewed the Present Chaotic Ecosystem as prefered by God already from the beginning which is hard to comprehend. I could even more believe that plants are the only food for Human and animals
mayergenuiseprincess 4 months ago
@mayergenuiseprincess Yeah when i was young, I remember this book about the creation where you got to see pictures of lions and lambs and what we consider preys and predators today are living at peace. I guess science have made progress through the years to make some preachers or self proclaimed messengers of God to reinvent their belief to go with the trend. Even Catholics as of today believe in evolution. So what's next...
Caicen 3 months ago
@Caicen the time I have watched Mr.Dravy I was very Impressed, When I was a kid I cannot Understand Why God will create an animal that kills for his hunger, when I was in a school like Secondary, I was making a realization that It is possible that they turned to Carnivores when their habitat is destroyed,The problem I didnt know how to defend my thinking,No one is supporting my Concepts.I was glad Mr.Dravy is there.Eli Soriano is bad throwing bad words to a lot of people pretending a genuise.
mayergenuiseprincess 3 months ago
@mayergenuiseprincess 10 They have closed up their fat hearts; With their mouths they speak proudly. 11 They have now surrounded us in our steps; They have set their eyes, crouching down to the earth, 12 As a lion is eager to tear his prey, Psalm 17 NKJV And like a young lion lurking in secret places.
elmansays 3 months ago
@elmansays You cited those verses in the state of were Lions are already Carnivores, But It doesnt have any implication that they already existed as Carnivore, How Can you put those Lions ,Tigers, Cheetah, Buffallo, Bull, Wild Dogs,Horses, and other wild animals in the Ark it they are already wild? Just like a man that can turns into a wild butis he really created wild? No, so just like animals, and Mr.Dravy has point reading the verse a kid was sitting besides the lion
mayergenuiseprincess 3 months ago
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@mayergenuiseprincess read again Job 38 NKJV 1 Then the LORD answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said:2 “Who is this who darkens counsel By words without knowledge? 3 Now prepare yourself like a man; I will question you, and you shall answer Me.4 “WHERE WERE YOU WHEN I LAID THE FOUNDATIONS OF THE EARTH? Tell Me, if you have understanding. 39 “Can you hunt the prey for the lion,Or satisfy the appetite of the young lions, 40 When they crouch in their dens,Or lurk in their lairs to lie in wait?
elmansays 3 months ago
Oh C`mon Bro.Eli Soriano!!! name some scientists! I suggest you read Scientist`s Books,Works,Theories,discoveries,Inventions,ec. Stop reading BAsic Science High School Textbooks,HAHAAHA LOL
mayergenuiseprincess 4 months ago
Eccl 12:10 NKJV
The Preacher sought to find acceptable words; and what was written was upright—words of truth.
1 Tim 4: 7 NKJV But reject profane and old wives’ fables, and exercise yourself toward godliness.10 For to this end we both labor and suffer reproach,[a] because we trust in the living God, who is the Savior of all men, especially of those who believe. 11 These things command and teach.
Bro Eli considers the Holy Scriptures faithfully that lead him to believe in science it supports.
elmansays 4 months ago
@elmansays Yeah like discrediting Luke's account of genealogy by saying it's incomplete because that would contradict his belief in science that say's the earth is old. Great!
Caicen 4 months ago
@Caicen yes thats why i also dont believe in soriano's teachings. But i also dont believe in evolution/creationism. Im agnostic and im open minded in such matters and draw my own conclusiond
zirchsoft 4 months ago
On part 1 Soriano said he believe's in the consensus of scientist in the age of the earth, but at the same time rejected the consensus of scientist about evolution. Even in science Eli is well verse in picking what to believe and what not to believe, of course anything that would fit his agenda would be acceptable.
Caicen 4 months ago
17 But the Lord stood with me and strengthened me, so that the message might be preached fully through me, and that all the Gentiles might hear. Also I was delivered out of the mouth of the lion. 18 And the Lord will deliver me from every evil work and preserve me for His heavenly kingdom. 2 Tim 4 NKJV
I believe Bro Eli is a blessed reader of the Holy Bible.
elmansays 4 months ago
@elmansays Troll!
Caicen 4 months ago
Yes,Soriano is Good in bible,for to memorize some verses are really hard but lets admit that He is Really Stupid and Idiot in Science.
mayergenuiseprincess 4 months ago
then where in the Bible that Lions are created Carnivores? How Could Noah put the Lions,tiger,Buffalo and so called Wild Animals into the ark if they are Carnivores or if it is possible that noah himself will be dangered to Lions?
mayergenuiseprincess 4 months ago
@mayergenuiseprincess read ecclesiastes 3:14 thats the answer...
jhazpie 4 months ago
@jhazpie I know that,whatsoever God doeth it shall be forever;nothing can be put to it,nor anything taken from it,and God Doeth it,that men should fear before him. Ecclesiastes 3:14,Where In this verse can you read That Lions are Carnivores already,The verse does not even refer to creatures,here implies that Gods motives,actions are all for the sake of Future & the word used is doeth which is present tense, Soriano fails to realize that carnivores are the result of destruction of their Habitat
mayergenuiseprincess 4 months ago
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@mayergenuiseprincess I think they're trying to put eisegesis on that verse, "doeth it shall be forever; nothing can be put to it nor anything taken from it"
They wildy interpret it as Lions are forever carnivorous and it never change. But as you put it, they were wrong, so wrong.
Caicen 4 months ago
Dr.Dravy is not saying your a Evolutionary Atheist, but your concepts are just copied from Evolutionary Atheist, Eli Soriano You will just LOOSE if you continue justifying that animal-carnivores are already created by GOd,You failed to analyze that the present ecosystem is the result of destruction of Habitat or in a religious sense a result of Sins of Men.Didnt you realize why plants are the first created before Animals?Did God really meant to create a parasite-prey,killing weak-relationship?
mayergenuiseprincess 4 months ago
@mayergenuiseprincess I would not capitalize the word LOOSE if your spelling of that word is wrong. Unless you really mean that Eli is loosen up...
zirchsoft 4 months ago
@zirchsoft Soriano should review his Science lesson,Admit it,He is Stupid in Science,He only knows Basics that He copy from Evolutionary Atheism. I think He didint even know Carl Sagan,Adrian Clark, Alexandre Koyre,J Mitton and Brophy, Did you know them Do you want a science debate ?I know from the start He IS IDIOT IN SCIENCE, SORIANO-IDIOT, IDIOT, IDIOT, IDIOT, IDIOT
mayergenuiseprincess 4 months ago
@mayergenuiseprincess u can have it if u think he is an idiot or whatever, I dont care much. anyway, I am not throwing bad words at u and u dont need to prove me your point. all I am saying is, if u are sooo good and show how knowledgeable you are, why can't you spell "Loose" correctly? FYI, It should be "Lose"
zirchsoft 4 months ago
@zirchsoft Eli Soriano said that Fool are those who are lacking their knowledge, well Hes One of them, Hes lacking his knowledege not only in the Bible but on Science! Im sorry I got wrong Spelling,Im poor in our Universal Langguage but Im Good In Science Not like your False Prophet Soriano. Soriano IDIOT,IDIOT, IDIOT
mayergenuiseprincess 4 months ago
@mayergenuiseprincess good science requires also good knowledge in english. I am not claiming to be good in science, and thats why I would not debate u in science. i would debate someone (if necessary) in things where I am knowledgeable. and pls, only bec. I have corrected your spelling, u dont need to be so defensive, do not assume my friend. most of all, stop calling names if you're supposed to be better than Eli. FYI, I am agnostic, so I dont defend any religion.
zirchsoft 4 months ago
@zirchsoft Maybe he's just too emotional when he wrote that, that's why he got it wrong. But since you said you are agnostic, I guess that would closed it out.
Caicen 4 months ago
@zirchsoft Oh Really! Albert Einstein the Pioneer and the Most well-Known Scientist is not good in English, actually he learn how to speak when he is already 7 if Im not mistaken,then how come you said it? and who told you Do you read it also from the Bible that Good In Science needs to be Good In English? REally really? really?
mayergenuiseprincess 4 months ago
@mayergenuiseprincess u know that Einstein came from Germany, right? and in Germany, u start learning Englisch starting from the 5th grade, which means most kids start to learn it between 13-14 yrs. old. if Einstein started with 7 as u claim, then that would make him an early learner here. i know it bec. I grew up in Germany. To be knowledgeable in english for a scientist is obligatory. einstein knew that.
zirchsoft 4 months ago
@zirchsoft SO Soriano is not surprisingly good in Science because you said that to be good in Science means to be good in english,I dont think so.!!! anyway Soriano maybe Idiot in Science and he admits also that He is not Good in English as You watched and finished the whole discussion.He said Hes not an English man.But the Problem is He Claim to be a good one in Science!
mayergenuiseprincess 4 months ago
@mayergenuiseprincess he said on part 1 that he relies on other scientists and scientific findings, and he admitted that he is not a scientist and doesnt know all details. but he didnt say he is "good in science". and besides that, there is a difference between being "good" and "knowledgeable". notice that i never said that u have to be very good in english if u want to be a scientist. may kaalaman sa wikang ingles. u are confused my friend.
zirchsoft 4 months ago
@zirchsoft That's why I doubt Soriano's being "the only sensible preacher of our time" as advertised by his members. He said "I do not know the details about that, but I am convinced by explanations of SCIENTISTS and by CONSTANT experimentation"
You don't know the details and YET you are "convinced"?
And if you really don't know the details, how did you know that the "CONSTANT EXPERIMENTATION" is UNFALSIFIABLE? As Jekkoism had poined out.
Caicen 4 months ago
@zirchsoft tagalog tayo kapatid! here in the Philippines He Claimed Hes Good In science, and pangarap pa nga yan maging Scientist e. HE relies on other scientist??? Or he rely in High School textbook??? sige san at kaninong Scientist yung pinag-relyan nya!?to whom Scientist He Was relying on?Yan ang hirap sa puro High School textbook ang binabasa,hahaha! wala ngang nabanggit yang Sugo nyo na name ng Scientist e! haha wag kasi mag marunong!!!
mayergenuiseprincess 4 months ago
@mayergenuiseprincess u got me mixed up again pre. hindi ko sugo yan, hindi ko rin sinasabi na magaling sya or maalam sa science or pinapaniwalaan ko yung arguments niya. get that into your brain, u keep on assuming and claiming. again, i will say this one more time: I am agnostic. do u know what that means? so stop your false accusations, you are barking at the wrong tree my friend
zirchsoft 4 months ago
@zirchsoft He's mixed up, probably because he so wanted to have a debate against a follower of Eli.
Caicen 3 months ago
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@mayergenuiseprincess "and who told you Do you read it also from the Bible that Good In Science needs to be Good In English?" - thats a lame argument. if we follow ur logic, ill ask u also: can u read in the bible or quran that u have to know good science? and why science? why not engineering or programming? pls dude, do not start a debate with me, bec. i am not your enemy, trust me.
zirchsoft 4 months ago
@zirchsoft THROW BAD WORDS LITTLE COWARD LETS SEE HOW GOOD YOU ARE IN SCIENCE!
mayergenuiseprincess 4 months ago
@mayergenuiseprincess "Dr.Dravy is not saying your a Evolutionary Atheist, but your concepts are just copied from Evolutionary Atheist"
You got it correct. Sadly Soriano and his minions can't comprehend Grady's use of the term "correct label".
Caicen 4 months ago
Dont Cry Bro. Eli,haha
mayergenuiseprincess 4 months ago
Obviously Soriano is needing a lot of review.He cannot answer those scientific questions. Bakit di ka makapag-mura ngayon? minumura mo ang may maling aral, o kung mali aral nya bakit di ka maksagot?whahaha
mayergenuiseprincess 4 months ago
Obviously Soriano is needing a lot of review.He cannot answer those scientific questions.
mayergenuiseprincess 4 months ago
SHEESH I found out that ADD's are all the same, they use the same tactic, "What is your religious organization?". In every discussion, this is there way of escape when they get cornered by logic, a COP OUT. See for yourself a brethren of your's is making the same demand against his opponent, Go to "Bro. Eli Soriano debate @ Revelation TV" by theologianZ. You will find a name "HotHubbies" he say's; "you don't reveal your religious affiliation, why? are you ashamed of your religious organization?
Caicen 6 months ago
to howard:the moderator is not a moderator, he is also commented and not listening as a moderator he don't know how to moderate this kind of of debate...
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sbermar2 6 months ago
@Caicen prattle and scoff, insult for insult that's your game. But how about your preacher, is she/he a name you can never tell?
Psalm 123:4 NKJV
Our soul is exceedingly filled With the scorn of those who are at ease, With the contempt of the proud.
elmansays 6 months ago
@elmansays I'll play you're little game. I can tell you his/her name, but ONLY if you can give me an outside source that Eli is the most slandered christian in the history of christianity. I need mathematical calculation of how did you arrive at those data, and cite your sources. If you can't provide that then you're self proclaimed preacher is the most DELUDED christian in the entire history of christianity, no one ever claimed that in the history of christianity. A data you can never produce.
Caicen 6 months ago
@elamsnsays So you want to play more games of irrelevant topics, I can give you more. This is what you want right.
Caicen 6 months ago
Why did Soriano have a 2.5million mansion in florianopolis Brazil?
Where is not the famous advertisement of his members before "dukhang pantas"
He said before, there's no need to invest in houses much as well rent, but how come he contradict himself?
And regarding his rape case, there's a big probability he did molest his former member in the name of Daniel Veridiano".
Caicen 6 months ago
Since you want irrelevant topics, I might as well throw something in return,
Who proclaimed Soriano to be a
1. Messenger of God?
2. Most sensible preacher of our time?
3. Most slandered in the history of christianity? (THICKFACE)
4. Meticulous person?
And for the last question, which doctrine of Soriano is unique that are apart from other christian groups?
Do you consider such person a "messenger" when he copies doctrines from another churches? That is according to him "false church"
Caicen 6 months ago
Dr Grady testified above that he even reads Bro Eli's writings, the problem is he shown here how he misread them and argue about it. That's how he and Mr Howard misread the Bible too. So @Caicen what is the name of your preacher, the one who preached to you? Does she/he tweet or write a wordpress? How did they become preachers? Who proclaimed or assigned them to be as such?
For He whom God has sent speaks the words of God, for God does not give the Spirit by measure. John 3:34 NKJV
elmansays 6 months ago
@elmansays what is the name of your preacher, the one who preached to you?
Does she/he tweet or write a wordpress?
How did they become preachers? Who proclaimed or assigned them to be as such?
Oh and you still have'nt got a clue....
What's next after that,
Who are my friends?
Who is my first gradeschool teacher?
How cute, but all there is, is you're lack of ability to comprehend what i'm saying. Go get some real education, don't always listen to a highshool dropout.
Caicen 6 months ago
@elmansays You are a CERTIFIED TROLL! Asking question that are irrlevant to the videos here and the cycle never ends. And always in a hurry to spew accusations at me without giving evidence, even when you challenge him to produce one. Having the need to fabricate lies just to cover his asinine comments. Never runs out of "Cop out" whenever cornered with his failed arguments. Sigh... the quality of ADD member goes on to show the quality of what false deluded preacher they have.
Caicen 6 months ago
@elamansays Oh here's where I said that Im right all along about you're tactics, check Revelation TV Part 2- 6 of 6 it's 2wks ago
I said;
"SO what's next troll, ask for our collection? Our doctrines? Our Worship schedules?"
And then you prove me right 2 days ago.
You said;
"so what is the name of your preacher, the one who preached to you? Does she/he tweet or write a wordpress? How did they become preachers? Who proclaimed or assigned them to be as such"
BAM YOU ARE EXPOSED!
Caicen 6 months ago
@Caice so what is the name of your preacher, the one who preached to you? Does she/he tweet or write a wordpress? How did they become preachers? Who proclaimed or assigned them to be as such? Dr Grady that testified above that he even reads Bro Eli's writings, the problem is he shown here how he misread them and argue about it. That's how he and Mr Howard misread the Bible too.
For He whom God has sent speaks the words of God, for God does not give the Spirit by measure. John 3:34 NKJV
elmansays 6 months ago
@elmansays BANG! Do you knew what you have just done? YOU HAVE PROVE MY CASE AGAINST YOU! I've been right all along about you're motives. THAT IS THE REASON WHY I WOULD NOT GIVE IN TO YOUR DIVERSIONARY TACTICS, RED HERRINGS! See if I answer you're irrelevant question, you would not stop there, it would be an endless cycles of irrelevant questions to divert the issue because YOU KNEW from the start that Eli have failed in this debate. That's why you wanted and tried harder to divert the issue.
Caicen 6 months ago
@elmansays I gave you the reason why I would'nt answer irrelevant issues, you will not stop asking irrelevant questions I even gave you an example. And look what you just did, you just showed here in youtube that, I am right about you all along. You are a SCAM!
Caicen 6 months ago
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@elmansays Here are the evidence that I am right about not answering you're irrelevant issues because it will only produce more irrelevant issues.
1. so what is the name of your preacher, the one who preached to you? Does she/he tweet or write a wordpress?
2.How did they become preachers?
3 Who proclaimed or assigned them to be as such?
You should ask that question to yourself. Eli a messenger of god? His fruits like you could'nt even produce intellectual arguments.
Caicen 6 months ago
walang kupas si bro eli!!! :)
17toink 6 months ago
@Caicen how can your arguments stand against biblical reason and logic? What is wrong with asking who your preacher, your authority is with a purpose to test that he/she is not like Dr Grady who constructs arguments out of misreadings and own theology? He even cited none Christians to impress numbers to his belief.
I know that whatever God does, It shall be forever. Nothing can be added to it, And nothing taken from it. God does it, that men should fear before Him. Ecclesiastes 3:14
elmansays 6 months ago
@elmansays In my church we dont have self proclaimed messengers, we dont have apostles, but we do have a lot of preachers. But again elmansays it is irrelevant to the issue, you know how i demolished the arguments of Eli in the videos, why dont you just address that, oh you cant, TROLL!
Caicen 6 months ago
@Caicen tell me the name of your own preacher and I will ask him if what your are writing here is part of your religious belief.
“ He who corrects a scoffer gets shame for himself, And he who rebukes a wicked man only harms himself. Proverbs 9:7 NKJV
elmansays 6 months ago
@elmansays What? I will not fall for you're dishonest fallacious arguments. You are misleading people here with your lies elmansays. Why would I believe something that my religion doesn't support? You just want to know the name of my preacher and from there start another topic which is irrelevant to the videos so you can escape the folly of your not so sensible preacher Eli. If you can't refute ALL of my arguments that I have posted, then MY ARGUMENTS STANDS. You are just trolling, hypoccrite.
Caicen 6 months ago
@Caicen you invented possible answers of Bro Eli in your mind. You are spreading your misconceptions and out of context comprehensions about what were said. and you refused to go to his twitter.com/ BroEliSoriano for his own biblical answers. You even invented the reason of my actions.
A scoffer seeks wisdom and does not find it, But knowledge is easy to him who understands. Proverbs 14:6
A scoffer seeks wisdom and does not find it, But knowledge is easy to him who understands. Proverbs 14:6
elmansays 6 months ago
@elmansays Why would I go to his twitter acount you doubletalk. I do not consider Eli as an authority to get all the answers, he is fallacious with a mouth that is filthy. I'll destroy your logic, If you are doubtful of Quiboloy being the Son of man here on earth why don't you ask himself personally, oh you can't and you wont even try because you very well know he is a fraud. See why would I go to Eli's twitter he is a fraud. You can't even go to INC to ask questions. You doubletalking hypocrite
Caicen 6 months ago
@elmansays (Cont) I invented possible answers? Oh please tell me where? can't you point exactly where did I make that invented answers. And where did I put Eli out of context, show me. Unless you can't show me where i did that, YOU ARE SPREADING LIES! You can;t show specifically because, you know for yourself that I will definitely win that argument. DOUBLETALK HYPOCRITE!
Caicen 6 months ago
@elmansays Please explain how my arguments are "a scoff" and not " to criticize"?
Maybe you are just spouting words that you yourself dont understand it's meaning and proper usage.
You don't accuse me of something you cannot even show me "WHERE" specifically i am wrong.
If you cannot show or even intellectually discussed about it, then you are here just to troll and to spread LIES!
Caicen 6 months ago
Matthew 15:28 NKJV
Then Jesus answered and said to her, “O woman, great is your faith! Let it be to you as you desire.” And her daughter was healed from that very hour.
Ecclesiastes 3:14 NKJV
I know that whatever God does, It shall be forever. Nothing can be added to it, And nothing taken from it. God does it, that men should fear before Him.
elmansays 7 months ago
@elmansays You're trolling.
Caicen 7 months ago
@Caicen I also could speak as you do, If your soul were in my soul’s place. I could heap up words against you, And shake my head at you; Job 16:14 NKJV I know that whatever God does, It shall be forever. Nothing can be added to it, And nothing taken from it. God does it, that men should fear before Him. Ecclesiastes 3:14 NKJV
Psalm 78:39 NKJV
For He remembered that they were but flesh,
A breath that passes away and does not come again.
elmansays 7 months ago
IF THEY ONLY KNOW HOW UNCONDITIONALLY KIND THE BROS. AND SISTERS IN THE CHURCH OF GOD. YOU CAN SEE AND FEEL IT IN THEIR HOLY EYES. THESE TWO BRITS HAVE PRE CONCEIVED IDEAS.
manggerry 8 months ago
@manggerry Wow talk about pre concieved ideas, Eli is full of it in these videos. Wanna try me. Seriously, you talk about how kind you're brothers and sisters in you're church and yet here you are typing in all "caps lock". Is your caps lock button broken?
Caicen 7 months ago
mr. howard and dr. grady, BIAS, u are unjustly manipulating the program, u dont give way to bro. eli. and u mr. howard u cut and change topic right away and pass the question to dr. grady. u insist ur belief but u cant defend it. why are u like that?
firstofjim 9 months ago
Psalm 78:39 NKJV
For He remembered that they were but flesh,
A breath that passes away and does not come again.
Titus 1:15 NKJV
To the pure all things are pure, but to those who are defiled and unbelieving nothing is pure; but even their mind and conscience are defiled.
elmansays 10 months ago
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@elmansays MGA ADD HINAHAMON KO KAYO SA NGALAN NG SATANAS AT BAKLA NYONG SUGO NA ELISEA "BAKLITA" SORIANO NA MAGLABAS KAYO NA MAS LULUMA PA SA "Oxyrhynchus Papyri" NA KOPYA NG REVELATION NA 666 ANG TUNAY NA NUMBER NG BEAST AT HINDI 616. DAHIL AYON MISMO SA CONSENSUS NG MGA SCHOLARS NA ANG TAMANG SALIN AY 616! KAYA KAYONG MGA HINAYUPAK NA ADD AY KAMPON AT TAGAPAGMANA NI SATANAS PATI KURIKONG NI SATANAS INYONG PAG-AARI! MGA GAGO!
Elisubotitidaniel 10 months ago
@Alcazar0227 you're trolling
alangname 10 months ago
1 Corinthians 5:8 NKJV
Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven,
nor with the leaven of malice and wickedness,
but with the unleavened bread
of sincerity and truth.
Proverbs 25:11 NKJV
A word fitly spoken
is like apples of gold In settings of silver.
elmansays 10 months ago
Proverbs 24 (New King James Version) 1 Do not be envious of evil men,
Nor desire to be with them; 2 For their heart devises violence, And their lips talk of troublemaking. 3 Through wisdom a house is built, And by understanding it is established; 4 By knowledge the rooms are filled With all precious and pleasant riches.
elmansays 10 months ago
>ung mga kagaya ni Alcazar na madidilim ang utak gaya ng mga Iglesia ni MANALO na taga diliman ay ndi na pinapatulan... dahil wala ng matinong masabi yang mga yan... napaghahalata lang kung anong klaseng PUNO meron sila. BOBO na wala pang MUDO! palibhasa ndi kayang gawin ng PUNO nila ang ginagawa ni Bro. Eli na kahit saan siya pumunta handang humarap with all his knowledge in the Bible. kaya puro paninira nalang ang alam nilang gawin pero pagdating sa aral wala silang ibubuga! puro hangin...
mjC2686 10 months ago
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@mjC2686 MGA ADD HINAHAMON KO KAYO SA NGALAN NG SATANAS AT BAKLA NYONG SUGO NA ELISEA "BAKLITA" SORIANO NA MAGLABAS KAYO NA MAS LULUMA PA SA "Oxyrhynchus Papyri" NA KOPYA NG REVELATION NA 666 ANG TUNAY NA NUMBER NG BEAST AT HINDI 616. DAHIL AYON MISMO SA CONSENSUS NG MGA SCHOLARS NA ANG TAMANG SALIN AY 616! KAYA KAYONG MGA HINAYUPAK NA ADD AY KAMPON AT TAGAPAGMANA NI SATANAS PATI KURIKONG NI SATANAS INYONG PAG-AARI! MGA GAGO!
Elisubotitidaniel 10 months ago
Ecclesiastes 3:14 (New King James Version)
I know that whatever God does, It shall be forever. Nothing can be added to it, And nothing taken from it. God does it, that men should fear before Him.
elmansays 10 months ago
Bro. Eli was biblical all through out. It is Dr Grady who ranted, raved and muttered allegations that Bro. Eli teaches heresy and it is Dr Grady who even attacked personally saying Bro Eli negates biblical teachings and even group him to evolutionists. It is Dr Grady who teaches heresies and his own theology saying that there is no death before Adam sinned and all animals are vegetarian, there are no carnivorous and just became one like the lion after the flood which Eccle 3:14 says otherwise.
elmansays 10 months ago
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@elmansays MGA ADD HINAHAMON KO KAYO SA NGALAN NG SATANAS AT BAKLA NYONG SUGO NA ELISEA "BAKLITA" SORIANO NA MAGLABAS KAYO NA MAS LULUMA PA SA "Oxyrhynchus Papyri" NA KOPYA NG REVELATION NA 666 ANG TUNAY NA NUMBER NG BEAST AT HINDI 616. DAHIL AYON MISMO SA CONSENSUS NG MGA SCHOLARS NA ANG TAMANG SALIN AY 616! KAYA KAYONG MGA HINAYUPAK NA ADD AY KAMPON AT TAGAPAGMANA NI SATANAS PATI KURIKONG NI SATANAS INYONG PAG-AARI! MGA GAGO!
Elisubotitidaniel 10 months ago
@Alcazar0227 lahat ng mga comment mo halatang bobo ka. walang alam at basura ka ng youtube. walang biro sarap mo talagang ibuhol sa video ni suriano. lol!
icbm100s 11 months ago
@Alcazar0227 mas ulol ka!!! dahil halata naman lagi kayong nakaabang sa video ni suriano. uloll! hahaha!
icbm100s 11 months ago
@Alcazar0227 hahaha! baliw!!!!!!
icbm100s 11 months ago
FACTS ANG PINAGUUSAPAN HINDI THEORY.....IBA ANG SCIENTIFIC FACT SA SCIENTIFIC THEORY
THEBEAUTICIAN 1 year ago
@Alcazar0227 hahaha! ikaw na ang hindi nakakaalam ng style ng inc...ulol lokohin nyo ang lelong nyo..
icbm100s 1 year ago
@Alcazar0227 magbaril na lng kayo sa sarili nyo. katulad ng pinuno nyo. dahil pinag sisikapan nyong itumba si suriano, di nyo madale. magdagdag pa kayo ng marami pang death squad. baka madali nyo na si suriano.
icbm100s 1 year ago
BUTATA TALAGA KAYO KAY BRO.ELI!!HAHAHA
edmenow 1 year ago
Lions are vegetarians?!?!?!?! Dr. Gravy is not a scientist but a self opinionist.
pump0919 1 year ago
@pump0919 It was not Dr. Gravy who've said that but the writer in GENESIS 1:30 so please keep you're opinion to yourself if you don't have anything to say biblical.
Caicen 1 year ago
@Caicen - Gen 1:30 is just a part of the bible... Studying the body structure of Lions and the enzymes that the Lions can produce during their digestion, you will come into conclusion that God intended Lions to eat meat. They are not capable of producing enzymes that can digest the cellulose present in green leaves.
pump0919 1 year ago
yea y not put gravy in a cage with the lions with a vegetable beside him..see what happens...mayb d lion wud change his evolution mind n remember that he is a vegetarian?
gfred31 1 year ago
I WISH to see a robotic plants n animals...just as these silly scientist claim...mayb in the future bt not in the past! funny scientist...good theologian bro.eli!
gfred31 1 year ago
fake scientist + bias moderator = losers! Bro Eli wins this topic! its OVER! HE WINS!
gfred31 1 year ago
all animals r like robots??? so if i believe evolution dey may soon be a ROBOTS for real...what kind of logic cud an evolutionist have! Gravy n howard nid to go back to old skul ideas!
gfred31 1 year ago
GET A LIFE ....GRAVY! DONT STAY HOME TOO MCH! if u cn fool others bt u cnt fool me with ur DOCTORATE DEGREE...IF all scientist r like u, man, surely we wil b in trouble!
gfred31 1 year ago
@GREDDY---ANIMALS surely>>>dey have feelings too u know! what a fake scientist u R! der nothing like robots!
gfred31 1 year ago
@GREDDY---ANIMALS surely>>>dey have feelings too u know! what a fake scientist u R!
gfred31 1 year ago
@GREDDY---ANIMALS N PLANT R LIKE ROBOTS? NO SOUL? R U KIDDING ME>>>dey have feelings too u know! what a fake scientist u R!
gfred31 1 year ago
@GREDDY , U HAVE NOW BASIS ON WHAT UR BLUBBERING ABOUT! U R NOT A THEOLOGIAN U HAVE NO VERSES BY UR CLAIMS! U R A FAKE SCIENTIST BEC U CNT PROVE UR STATMENTS ......R U DRUNK OR SOMETHING???
gfred31 1 year ago
korek if u say ur a scientist and a theologian, yo Greddy state ur Biblical verses...wer is ur basis aside from ur own opinion n ideas???
gfred31 1 year ago
LISTENING TO THESE PPLE, I CN SEE ONE OF THEM IS RIGHT! BOTH CNT GIVE PROOF TO WHAT DEY R SAYINGS!
gfred31 1 year ago
BRO GREEDY LOOKS PISSED OFF! He Assume things and cnt get his facts straight!
gfred31 1 year ago
4. Eli cited "Lucy" as a proof that humans existed millions of years ago, so can you explain if or if not "Lucy" is part of the salvation of humans, considering he's a hominid?
5. is Adam a hominid? He can't be homo sapien, beacause in biology, hominid is an ancestor of homo sapiens.
6. If he's a homo sapien, are there any fossils that dates back millions of years old?
Caicen 1 year ago
it is clear that dr grady is the one who declares statements without basis scientifically and biblically. But if we will notice him as though he's so sure of what he's saying. he's a self appointed wise man but in reality if we will analyze what he's saying he's a fool. and he's accusing or judging Bro Eli of using other's thoughts. dr grady is beig judgemntal. how can he be sure that bro. Eli got his thinking from other people or some sort of evolutionary scientist. all dr grady says is a lie
ditapak 1 year ago
6. dr grady says that bro Eli is in line with some falvu man or woman which i don't understand but in here we can see that he's the one attacking Bro. Eli personally. what he is doing he's pointing to Bro. Eli. Here he's wrong again.
7. he says that plants and animals do not die and they do not have soul, insects are little robots. this is a big mistake again for it is written in the Bible that every living creature has a soul . Job 12:10 says that every living thing has a soul.
ditapak 1 year ago
well we did not lived before to witness about it but discoveries and scientific evidences shows us that many animals or species were extinct even before man appeared on earth. and as Bro Eli points out of course lions before already eats animals of their prey, and they die of course. this is how nature goes even before, the survival of the fittest . And it's how nature balances itself as designed by God!!
ditapak 1 year ago
5. dr grady says that the idea that physical death occured even before the creation of adam and eve is a false teaching. Well personally I believe that dinosaurs had lived and died long before adam and eve were created on earth. Modern science supports this . In fact you cannot find a fossil of man that is as old as a fossil of dinosaur. Dinosaur's fossils are i think millions of years older than fossils of man, as science discoveries shows. well i am not a scientist.
ditapak 1 year ago
dr grady's mistakes continued- balanced in nature. the structure of their teeth , claws and even their digestive track, the whole of them shows that they were really meant to eat meat.
4-he says all of the land animals from creation before the time of the flood were vegetarian according to the Bible.. wrong again, nowhere inthe Bible that you could read this statement. in Gen 1:24-25 God already created the beasts in animals. Even long before the flood they are talking about.
ditapak 1 year ago
dr grady's mistakes continued-Bro Eli does not teach heresy because he's just explaining that if it's a physical death that reigned after it has reigned then there should be no more physical death. But up to now there is physical death.
3. dr grady says that lions lived as vegetarians in old times, oh no a big foolishness. It is impossible for lions to be vegetarians if you will study their physical built they were really meant to eat flesh. they were meant by God to be like this to preserve -
ditapak 1 year ago