Stop the Clash '08 - Stop the Obsession

[mphello]

Nothing wrong with being sex mad! :)

Ok. Back to being serious.

[steveascension]

The extremists from the group Al shaaab killed 11-year-old Abdi Rahaman Musa Yusuf and 12- year-old Hussein Musa Yusuf, after abducting them in front of their mother. The terrorists are currently looking for Yusuf in Kenyan refugee camps.

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Yusuf fled immediately and the next day the extremists killed his sons. Yusufs wife and 7-year-old son have joined him in the refugee camp in Kenya where Mberwa and other believers are helping them.

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On February 20, the extremists interrogated Yusuf about his relationship with Salat Mberwa, the Christian leader who discipled him in the faith and led an underground fellowship with 66 believers. When Yusuf told them he did not have any connection to him and knew nothing about him, they left and vowed to return the next day.

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The extremists from the group Al shaaab killed 11-year-old Abdi Rahaman Musa Yusuf and 12- year-old Hussein Musa Yusuf, after abducting them in front of their mother. The terrorists are currently looking for Yusuf in Kenyan refugee camps.

Yusuf was a leader of an underground church in Yonday village, 19 miles from Kismayo, Somalia.

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SOMALIA - Sons of Christian Beheaded Compass Direct News

Islamic extremists have beheaded two boys in Somalia because their Christian father, 55-year-old Musa Mohammed Yusuf, refused to give them information about an underground church leader, according to Compass Direct News.

[modelfan1979]

I saw Obsession. A Muslim worked on this film, so it is not anti-Muslim. It is anti-radical Islam.

I hate to break it to you leftists, but the reason why there is Islamophobia is because of terrorist acts carried out by radical Muslims that are not protested by prominent Muslims. When hundreds if not thousands of Palestinians celebrate the fact that 3,000 Americans were killed on 9/11, what are we supposed to think?

[amalwa3li]

That Muslim later recanted his testimony after viewing the film. He hadn't been informed as to the true nature of the video at the time of his interview.

Please see these two links about Muslim responses to terrorist attacks including those of September 11:

w w w . unc . edu / ~kurzman / terror . h t m

groups . colgate . edu / aarislam / response . h t m

[modelfan1979]

Ok. But the fact of the matter is, throughout the Muslim world, 9/11 was celebrated. In many Muslim countries today, Hitler is popular, and his book Mein Kampf is on bestseller lists throughout the Middle East. Osama Bin Laden is also popular, with an approval rating in some places of over 50%.

What are non-Muslims supposed to think.

[amalwa3li]

9/11 was also celebrated throughout South America. And you didn't ask for the common people, you asked for prominent Muslims speaking out, and that first link gives a list of prominent Muslim scholars and leaders and links to fatwas condemning terrorism. We, the American people, should ask why were the same few clips of flag burning repeatedly shown, and not clips of anti-terrorism demonstrations and candlelight vigils which also took place?

[amalwa3li]

As for Mein Kampf and OBL, these are not popular among the Muslims I've talked with in the region, in fact, most I met expressed vehement hatred of OBL. AS for Mein Kampf, it is true that the Middle East has imported a lot of European based anti-semitism (I prefer the term Judenhass, as Arabs themselves are Semites). It is a sad but understandable result of Israel's oppression of Arab Christians and Muslims in Palestine. The Palestinians are basically living in Ghettos, in open air prisons.

[amalwa3li]

I want to make it clear that I do not support the killing of civilians whether they be Muslim or non-Muslim, nor does Islam support this. You can review the fatwas at the first link provided for more info on this and supporting evidence.

w w w . unc . edu / ~kurzman / terror . h t m

I was a non-Muslim at the time of 9/11 and after that I started to study Islam and found out that Islam does not teach terrorism, instead it teaches a beautiful and pure monotheism and I became Muslim in 2007.

[edimk25]

wow and i should belive anything that is said on that site?????????

[edimk25]

we as humans ar fucked that is what we should think!

[lonovik]

@modelfan1979

Not as much as bombing and Zionazi occupations are celebrated in west.

[modelfan1979]

@lonovik Question of the day. Why do so many Muslims hate people who are different?

If you are so concerned about human rights, you should be up in arms over the fact that the Muslim world supports the murder and enslavement of black Africans, oh wait, many Arab Muslims consider the blacks inferior...

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Avazzorg

wants us to sleep quietly in our beds.+

No can do

[workingforworldpeace]

On the other hand, it wants you to raise your voices against falsehood.

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Later that day he stood outside Number 10 Downing Street and again read from the document and concluded:

"My good friends, this is the second time in our history that there has come back from Germany to Downing Street peace with honour. I believe it is peace for our time [emphasis added]. We thank you from the bottom of our hearts. And now I recommend you to go home and sleep quietly in your beds

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Chamberlain (waves paper to the crowd - receiving loud cheers and "Hear Hears"). Some of you, perhaps, have already heard what it contains but I would just like to read it to you (proceeds to read the agreement). [...] We regard the agreement signed last night and the Anglo-German Naval Agreement, as symbolic of the desire of our two peoples never to go to war with one another again

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dzakku

Chamberlain landed at Heston Aerodrome on 30 September 1938, and spoke to the crowds there:

"...the settlement of the Czechoslovakian problem, which has now been achieved is, in my view, only the prelude to a larger settlement in which all Europe may find peace. This morning I had another talk with the German Chancellor, Herr Hitler, and here is the paper which bears his name upon it as well as mine.

[Dzakku]

You can claim that the 'poster' (Avaaz representing a global community) is following in the steps of the great nazi propagandists, but you're the one following in the steps of the great ignorant nazi discriminists, which led to systematic genocide and the deaths of millions. There's a huge difference in advocating for peace than advocating for war. If you live within a democracy, peace should be the first and formost single option that should ever be considered.

[muskan1222]

In the POLITICS section of last Sundays Washington post, there was an article about this video.

As you may have guessed, the man, or may i say men, or woman and men, is Israeli.

Surprise surprise.

[22fanatik]

WOW!!!

this kept me captivated until the end.

[lorafay3]

woah

what is this.

thank you avaaz

[muskan1222]

This movie depresses me.

[abilityoflove]

Where is the love?