Sting - St Augustine in Hell

[Yaris510]

Knockout track, with a seriously kick-arse organ solo midway through; best song on the album

[probrojeffro]

Not his best album and he rather sticks to safe, formulaic, cliche arrangements but, hey, it's Sting and people bought it because he's, well, Sting.

[RaidTheGlobe]

okay.. breaks over!

[richie616799]

RIP Kenny, xx

[finnmick96]

The keyboard solo simply kicks ass!

[thommytaranto]

Usually hate Sting, this is a masterpiece of an album though and Vinnie

[oldwest517]

@thommytaranto I find it hard to believe that anyone with musical sensibilities wouldn't find this album to be a masterpiece -- but then I love Sting's music in general. I sometimes think that people who are put off by Sting's persona can't bring themselves to admit that how good his music really is. I know I've been guilty of similar sentiments regarding artists whose public personality I have trouble swallowing... And yes, Vinnie is inseparable from the genius of this album.

[58offord]

jammin



[manipool]

I've always loved songs with organ in them!

[superbrugd002]

Vilken tung låt! Härlig sjutakt.  =)

[superbrugd002]

Underbar låt. Älskar sjutakt

[KibasLilAngel]

Dude. Everything in this song is fucking sick.

'Specially the dude in the middle's voice. It's like velvet with... poison in it or something.

But oh god, this is one of my favorites from him, ever...

Oh, and did anyone notice he uses the same kind of thing -- 7/8 beat with an even ride -- in Straight To My Heart?

[pinboyjorf]

the whole album kicks major ass. i think it is his masterpiece.

[manipool]

@pinboyjorf I agree I love every song on it. Played it to death on record, then brought and tore up the CD. He has doesn't anything as great since.

[Tobbe999999999999999]

apart from the drummer, the organist is sick too. the organ solo is just fucking awsome.

[TheFerFilms]

Brilliant! But people is saying this is simple?! I'm learning this for my drum class, damn i find it hard!

[Josper128]

love the 7/4 beat

[Sreven199]

Ok, Breaks OVER! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! LOL

[Sinjinator]

Have a cigar...

[drumworks0503]

yes, it's Vinnie, and it's a 7/4 song :)

[cnote05]

vinnie colaiuta is all I gotta say.........

[aries4961]

i love musicians. even tho i never took lessons 4 the piano, i can play anything i hear just by hearing it. i would like 2 b in band singing but at this time it is not possible. i dont have an instrument or a vehicle. i have put this desire on hold & i have settled 4 singing karaoke in bars, pubs & lounges when i can get there.

[aries4961]

sorry that i misprinted the lyrics 2 this one. the correction is:

the more i need the less i get,

[aries4961]

the less i need, the more i get. make me chaste but not just yet. its a promise or a lie, i'll repent b4 i die. scary but sounds good

[aries4961]

every song on this album was awesome. you should here this song live at his bday concert, i 4get what year but they blew this song out the water. i caught it on a public broadcasting channel years ago & wish i now still had it. i am looking for it at this late hr.

[miklensk]

It's really fun to play this sheet on the drum because if the genius 7/8!

[miklensk]

It's really fun to play this sheet on the drum because if the genius 7/8!

[safespa1]

not a polyrythm! the ride is doin a cross rythm where the pattern carries across the bar!!! id say kick an snare is 7/8 while the ride is 7/4

[GhostGuitars]

@safespa1 Correct

[MaroMeshuggah]

@safespa1 kind of polyrhythm,but not, I do not know how it needs to be called

[mytube543210]

If somebody up there likes me somebody up there cares

Deliver me from evil save me from these wicked snares

[IRONMANHONDO87]

@DoinkTonberry Naw. he was just in Chicago for his new show.

[brennennase]

He replaced Kenny Kirkland. David is awesome on the keys!

[finnmick96]

@brennennase Indeed

[brennennase]

His name is David Sanctious- not sure of spelling of last name.

[IRONMANHONDO87]

Who is it on the organ? This guy is awesome!!!

[brennennase]

Vinnie for groove president!!!!

[finnmick96]

Yes it IS genius! I played it in my drum lesson and it was cool. Drummers should have whole Vinnie-course with: Love Is Stronger Than Justice, Seven Days, St. Augustine In Hell and Englishman In New York. :)

[juanbarros88]

playing 4/4 over 7/8 is not actually a polyrhythm. both are based on quarter and 8ths.

polyrhythm is for example when you play straight 8ths over triplet eights or whatever. this is more like polymeter. one hears it like a polymeter. but it's just like a drumming illusion as someone said. you could say it's in 7/8 and ride in 4/4. or that the drummer play(on the ride) quarters one measure and &s on the next measure.

[MaroMeshuggah]

@juanbarros88

it is not 4/4 it is just quarters on the ride that makes 7/4 beat instead of 8th ,yes it makes an illusion 

[p666axe]

@MaroMeshuggah

it's not 7/4 its 7/8 buddy, I am aware that Technically the ride cant be in a time signature by its self, but I think its eaiser to call it a 4/4 feel?? yes?? otherwise it's played 'straight' over a 7/8 groove.

Peace.

[MaroMeshuggah]

@p666axe

not, if you'll count 4/4 you will less the down beat - unlike the 7/4

it can be count in 7/8 and 7/4 too

[oldwest517]

@MaroMeshuggah The genius of the groove is created by the cymbal in straight quarter notes -- on 1,3,5,7 in one bar, 2.4.6 in the next. This disguises the 7 and gives the illusion of something regular like 4/4, except, of course, there is nothing of 4/4 anywhere. To me, this sort of disguise is what makes for a great "odd time signature" song -- makes it swing. Like Gabriel's "Solisbury Hill," where some instruments play the 7 as 3+4 while others play it as 4+3

[MaroMeshuggah]

@p666axe

and you dont need to be anger

[MaroMeshuggah]

@p666axe

to call it 4/4 feel on ride it just wrong man..

[juanbarros88]

@MaroMeshuggah yeah they are quarters on the ride in one measure and turn into upbeat 8th notes (on the ride) in every other measure. but you know, 4/4 ride over 7/8 makes it sound harder, that's why i say that, haha... oh i see what you're saying but no, to me, this song is in 7/8, 7/4 is too long. this feels like 7/8 more than 7/4. still two measures of 7/8 are equal to a measure of 7/4, so you can count it both ways.

[MaroMeshuggah]

@juanbarros88

you can

but i'm just saying it is NOT 4/4 you can count 7/4 but where is the groove or the feel of the 4/4 ?

[mytube543210]

yep i enjoyed listening to this in the car on the way to school back in the early 90's :) thanks dad XX

[adgbusiness]

If a beat can be felt as having a single distinct downbeat and a single distinct upbeat, then it is simple meter (quarter note foundation, eighth note division). When you hear this beat you can feel the down-up 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+ beat/division. Vinnie then puts the ride on 1,3,5 in one measure, 2,4,6 in the next. That's the technical end of it. The end result is just really, really cool.

Trust me, I do this for a living!

[philateliceun]

This aint actually that hard to play on drums. It is a very good groove to learn independence in a 7/8 groove because your ride pattern shifts each bar from on beat to off beat. Once you are used to hearing and playing 7/8 it is not actually that hard. Some things are actually easier in 7/8 then 4/4 in my opinion.

[EdJClarke]

OK, break's ooover, hahahahaha

[deseipel]

the ride bell is simply playing quarter notes over two bars of 7/8.

1st bar = bell on 1,3,5,7

2nd bar = bell on 2,4,6

It's a great drumming illusion though.

[unmatchedalex]

Deliver me from Evil...............Save me from this Wicked Snare,,,,,not into temptation..............Not to cliffs of fall, onto revletions, lessons for Us all.

[FuLuShouXi]

If somebody up there like me, if somebody up there cares. . . .

[31Michigan]

5 STAR!

[kkarpicki1]

anyone hear "i miss you kate"

[ePhilosopher9]

Geaux Saints! Hey Sting, Happy Mardi Gras just means that Jazzfest is just around the corner! God Bless, and Who Dat say they gonna beat them Saints?

[ePhilosopher9]

Somebody up there likes me! WHO DAT in the Superbowl XLIV! It's a Drummer thing. "I remember the first time I heard it was in the Louisiana State Football Championship game, Jesuit vs. St Augustine, in 1978. I was a drummer in the band on the field at the Superdome for the halftime show, the drum section danced in attempts to upstage St Aug, and our baritone players did the 'gator', and all thru the game, St Aug was cheering WHO DAT! They were screaming from the bus, WHO DAT! WHO DAT! I BELIEVE

[renegademax]

Bloody brilliant and that beat is mind blowingly cool.

[worragoose]

that drum beat is nearing on impossible to play D;

[ehlogi]

7/4 en 4/4

un fenomeno

[p666axe]

7/8 time 4/4 ride= polyrhythm

[chackyjazz]

@p666axe Where is the polyrhythm???

The ride is not in 4/4.....

Check outh deseipel explaining it..!!

[p666axe]

@chackyjazz

sorry bud if you dont know I cant help you, I am a drummer and can play this part,

Deseipel's description is ok, but not practical if explaining it to someone who has not heard the song! its over complicated, the right hand is showing independancy from time signature, by playing a 4/4 feel. end of.

[MaroMeshuggah]

@p666axe

the ride not 4/4

you can not notice the ride as 4/4 . maybe if there was an accent on other cymbal or something after 4/4 beside the 7/8 snare and bassdrum

[forzamicha46]

great drums great song multi talent guy :)

[baghu]

yeah this is a heavy song. SELATIK1, what you're hearing is a steady 7 with the ride laying down a crazy solid 4 on top. damn what a funky groove.

[0danishdrummer0]

It's because the drumming is in 7/8

[PoeticJustice05]

Yes, but the ride is in 4/4. That's why this is so hard, it's a friggin polyrhythm!

[MaroMeshuggah]

@PoeticJustice05

the ride is in quarters notes , but not 4/4..

[beholdtherelish]

St. A in Hell, Fill Her Up- Sting can tell a story why he doesn't take his interest in theatre and write a musical-I will never know:(

[selatik1]

Vinnie's ride cymbal is on the upbeat one measure, then the down-beat the next! Seamless!

[MehMehBear]

Wait, that's Vinnie Coulaita?

[selatik1]

Yes indeed.

[MehMehBear]

Damn, you could only expect these kinda drum beats from him.

[ghancox]

the whole album has some of the best black humour lyrics I've ever heard. Love the "breaks over" gag embedded in this one. A pity this album is only one that contains any of Sir Stingfords jokes. the rest of his stuff seems rather worthy/artyfarty for my liking.

[mork1]

Apart from tempo, what about the vocal line(s)/choirs? Awesome!

[mfr1003]

...Ok, Breaks over!

[newmansman]

..you're never alone, not really

[ariehaar]

Triplets with the bell accent on the last note.

[Dokdude]

7/8 groove. 4/4 ride. Genius.

[stom67]

Agreed. Brilliantly simple.

[dejar44]

@stom67

yet mind bending... awesome

[MehMehBear]

So simple, yet so awesome.

[Tigurifico]

@Dokdude

lol...drummers!!!

[Tigurifico]

@Dokdude

lol...drummers!!!

[dudeontherun296]

@Dokdude thankyou for that.....i wrote that on here like last year and everyone was like..... it's 5/4... and i was virtually shouting at my computer "ITS 7/8 WITH A 4/4 RIDE!!!!!" any way cheers you've made my day!

[JuliFunkikero]

@Dokdude

4/4, where ?



[Dokdude]

@JuliFunkikero Of course there is no "4/4" tempo in the song. 4/4 is referred to the even ride pattern that you can imagine layered over the 7/8.

[JuliFunkikero]

@Dokdude

ok ok, thank you

[samthegreat4]

@Dokdude

Even more rewarding when you manage to see through the pattern!

[MaroMeshuggah]

@Dokdude

it's become 7/4 :)



[Tebanovich]

@Dokdude It´s actually quote common. Pretty easy to play too!

[captainpaintcan]

No its 7/8, I'm playing it in college. Great tune by the way

[curting2000]

Surely its 7/4!!!

[Iciphers]

surely no one cares

[curting2000]

im sure your right... even slightly annoyed with myself for getting roped in.... haha! No denying its a mega groove tho!

[nhooper1]

Actually, it's 7/8.

[willdrums711]

it doesn't matter, it's just whether you're feeling it in quarter notes or 8th notes. i would personally say 7/4, just because of the speed. But it's whatever.

[nhooper1]

No, it isn't, if any song could be either in quarters or eighths, then there would be no need to differentiate. Also, speed doesn't effect the time signature. You COULD count it in 7/4, but that's like counting a song that's in 4/4 in 2/4, sure it'll work out, but it's not right.

[willdrums711]

sure, i take your point.

however if i had to transcribe this song, i would instinctively write it in 7/4.

[nhooper1]

Yeah, and the pattern would be accurate, but if you listen to where the "1" is, it can't be 7/4, but I get what you mean..

[hugfyg]

This is 7/8 groove...

[sargonnasftw]

it's 6/8 - fancy =D

[Elidoransgar]

Okay...break's over!

[MikeMoneyMiami]

One of the best albums ever.

[groovemaster1988]

great song and brilliant drumming..i recorded a cover of this with a band a few years ago must put it up!

[cliveandadina]

This song is the most entrancing of the album... Thanks for uploading this one!!!