Debt Bubble Dollar Destroyed

[zenophon007]

Great job, thanks for all your vids and perspective!!! take care and ROCK ON!!

[UTEPKSC]

Why not tax the FED? They claim to be private. :)

[darrellmellissa]

Best idea that i have heard in a long time, your a geniuse.

[zeitgeisthero]

watch what video ? you never link it in the side bar. why cant you do that for us ?

[Dt0x75]

Yup yup MoT has been saying this since his first video(s). I remember him saying the dollar was doomed when he was in his old place...With the long ponytail, and his nice dress shirt. :)

[wyclef675]

I was a big fan of the NWO back in the 90's. Especially, when they were they split and there was the Wolfpack.

Those were the days man.

[WesSeid]

Wolfpack black and white!

[EndTheFedRes]

manoftruth

The dollar is at a critical moment right now. I think the next two months will be interesting. Keep an eye on the dollar index, as well as dollar vs. euro. Looks like the world is buying gold.

[SgtSoot]

If anyone wants to get a sense of the financial crisis we are in right now, go ahead and pay a visit online to the US National Debt Clock: Real Time. Our current public debt stands at alittle over $12 trillion, and is likley to rise to over $24trillion by 2019 under Obama's fiscal policies. There is no question that the habitual deficit spending on the part of government officials will eventually lead to a financial collapse. We have to make every effort to reign in our government officials.

[ericstrattendgtmy]

I thought the National Debt Clock had been repocessed by creditors. Just kidding.

[POSSUMTOHIDE]

Thank you from your Ohio viewer! God Bless!

[manoftruth]

Thanks for commenting from the buckeye state.

[passingcloud01]

how about a lil something on the "amero"?

[manoftruth]

they might just go straight to the worldo.

[Crzykjn]

lol. Perhaps credit system w/ rfid? Just kidding-kinda. :)

[lordoftheinternets]

Peter Schiff has been talking about the dollar collpase ever since 2006-2007 on national news.

And also, why would they suddenly start talking about it on the news? Isn't the mainstream media in the US controlled by about 5 large corporations. There has to be an angle here, or then this NWO stuff is 50% baloney.

[manoftruth]

Yeah Schiff is a little late on it. He not not nearly bearish enough. He thinks the current system will survive for the next few decades, which it won't.

[NibiruMagick2012]

Glenn Beck had that guy on fox today saying the same things.

[manoftruth]

Thanks for the info. I love to watch the patterns!

[TonyUnplugged]

Damon Vickers was on the Alex Jones show on Monday. He grew up around "Old Money". His mother almost married a Rockefeller. NWO think it is up for them to decide the order of the world while they do little manual work and continue to siphon money from hard working people through manipulation of the stock market and carbon taxes.

[manoftruth]

Thanks for the info. He was very smug. Makes sense.

[odin422]

hope your having a great time in Cali, it's great here eh?

Look up Emerald Earth in Boonveille Cali.

VERY Important stuff

[jarden69]

Communists?

[Shameonfed]

Perhaps the Youtubers should organize their own MILLION FREE MEN AND WOMEN march on Washington, instead of sitting in front of our computers. The elites don't mind dissent when we are all tucked away in our cozy little homes, but put us on the steps of the Capital and it could be a little more powerful of a statement.

[kenandjasha]

even if a million people marched tomorrow the msm would marginalize it and downplay it...the only way is a million people to pull their money out of the banks with an organized bank run and hit them where it hurts!

[kidwave1]

The term NWO is vacant and nondescript. Why dont people call it what it is ..The Vatican and the Jesuits order, and all order,, including knights of Malta, knights of the order of the bath, knights of Columbus, Knights of Eulogia(better known as the order of the skull and bones, and also the Jesuits controll ALL of Freemasonry.. Go to google video and search: Roman Empire Rules Today--The New World Order .. and ... Total Onslaught - 211B - The Secret Behind The Secret Societies.avi

[doctorofghetto]

Manoftruth is and has been right. Check out Nathan's Economic Edge's website article: "2+2=ininity..."

Startpage(dot) com search Nathan's Economic Edge and search for that article title. You guys will like the material.

[davecros]

Great channel MOT.

[simons2012]

Unemployment is running out I read today

[D33Lux]

Commodities are great, but you will still need to buy food, gas, soap, toilet paper...etc. Why not stock up now if you have the room. Tangible items are as essential as gold, silver, copper...etc. If you buy now, you can rest assured that you won't be buying and using your PM savings to buy inflated everyday items. Just think about it! Buy supplies now cheap, save PM for later for when you really need it. Dios te bendiga MOT, always love watching your vids. Saludes de Toronto, Canada.

[rockthewalk]

Being a contrarian, when the demise of the US dollar is being spoken of by every single person and now as you say MOT, on CNBC....probably a smart move to go long USD for awhile...JMHO.

[manoftruth]

maybe short term. Medium term and long term the dollar's destruction is assured.

[rockthewalk]

thanks for the response...i agree with your reply but i think there will be opportunities to profit from its short term rise...i appreciate your passion in your videos. Ciao

[clarkcolt45]

David Vickers is an idiot. He's from one of the families that's been doing all this, his dad was working for goldman sachs and friends with the rockefellers.

And he think it's GOOD to make a new world order and he think that the ordinary people (like you and me) are not worth any freedom!

[tuktukktotam]

it is

Damon

[clarkcolt45]

yeah, Damon, sorry, my mistake.

I like that lady calling in on alex jones show, she called him Demon Vickers, LOL

Well, sometimes I wonder, are they demons? I don't want to believe that humans like you and me could think of setting up something that evil, and let it go in our families for generations.. it's just too evil to imagine :/

But we are just cattle to them.. and what do they say? Domesticated cattle don't revolt when they're brought to slaughter - and they know that.

[rad4life1]

it will be really interesting to watch the NWO take shape...cause in my oppinion it wont stand...all it is, is the same system being restructured on a broken foundation...tell me...how do they expect it to work by using an already failing system?? hmm? lol

[justaoldslave]

Thanks M.O.T., Another great video. The new world order. How hard is that to figure out? The U.S. government hasn't represented the citizens of thier own country for decades. The nation is imploding and the president is off chumming up to China! Trade with China is great, even if half of the people in the U.S. are unemployed. Jim Morris

[toddhawley]

:08 You Farted!!!!

Nice cover up though.....

[jsmythib]

I think the 32bit integer max value is around 2 billion on your I phone.

Thanks for the post MOT- Just wondering where the webpage to order those raw coco beans is!

[jeff99az]

MOT -- is you haven't seen it already, check out Damon Vickers on Glen Beck last night (11/17). Part 2 is excellent ... someone posted it on Youtube.

[dvrana]

MOT you talk about the problems then you talk about your IPhone. Thats awseome!!!! Your brillance has turned into dark smoke.

[junehas4kids]

I believe that the rapture will happen real soon.....look up everyone

[amc2525]

MOT can you bless me?

[MrPhatmuscle]

i wonder what america will be like in 1 year lol anyone got an idea?

[Ree144]

Learn from the past.

In the Great Depression, seeds were of intrinsic value, much like gold and silver.

[carlfinkle]

Once you are you are having to use exponents to keep track of the figures it really no longer matters what the numbers are you know the monetary system is broken and it is only a matter of time before hyperinflation sets in.

[TheOriginalJoeBloggs]

watch?v=sUgdelBmSl4

[MadBadVoodo]

Five Stars!!

[B0rnAl0neDieAl0ne]

Endothil is some good stuff nice shirt, thanks for the info.

[goscott4]

Right! Why is President Obama ditteringing around today in China?

Trying to find the right words?

BTW first time home buyers are waiting up to six months to get paid.

The shortest time is 30 days and not too many get their check this quickly!

[Silberdachs]

Bought your gold yet?

[brendandylanmaloney]

Why play a guessing game when lindsy williams got the inside scoop to what the future holds.He says exactly what you are saying about the u.s. dollar. He said the elite said in 2 years the dollar will be destroyed, gold and silver are the only real money and a few other things. check him out !

[TheOriginalJoeBloggs]

watch?v=UpgZx-9FLbE

[steeps24]

Interesting how my bank and others as well are suggesting to their customers or clients that they can trade in U.S. dollars for foreign currency at ANY time of our choosing. It is coming. Thank you MOT. God bless.

[Clipper52a]

Technically speaking, the dollar has hit a short term bottom.

[axiomsrs]

What' amazing to me is even though collapse of the dollar and NWO is headline news (Vickers is NWO by the way) the masses are still in mass denial! It blows my mind!

[kswatcher]

I heard a blub on the news this morning saying that since healthcare reform will likely be put on the backburner until next year, Congress will concentrate on a Jobs Bill. It will be much like the stimulus bill......roads, bridges, unemployment benefits, state handouts, ect. It is clear that they are going to try to inflate their way out of debt, so it is time to go shopping! Buy more supplies and precious metals. Buy, buy, buy while you can.

[Luigi84289]

no the proper thing to do is save. Don't spend. Hold on to all the money you can. In a recession you want to spend as little as possible and save all you can. The more we save the less they can suck.

[kswatcher]

The money that you are saving is losing purchasing power every day. They are sucking you dry through inflation. You need to study up on Weimar Germany, my friend. What you don't buy today may very well cost twice as much next year. In hyperinflation, the only thing fiat currency is good for is paying off already existing loans.

[Luigi84289]

I meant save it in gold or silver. Real money. Everyone would be fine if they would just stop spending fake paper and convert it all to gold or silver.

[kswatcher]

I'm glad that's what you meant. Do buy food supplies and essentials, though. Remember, you can't eat gold and silver if the store shelves are empty.

[omiolo2]

it seems like our entire economy is based on the dollar moving so quickly that it makes it easy for the books to be cooked.

[ibislee]

Hey MOT, turn your iPhone sideways and you can calculate numbers until the quadrillions before getting the "e" stuff. Quadrillions, wooh, that would be scary.

[manoftruth]

thanks, yeah even tho I know a lot about iphones it does thousands and thousands of cool things. Thanks.

[DavidAKZ]

1T = 10e12

[BankofSpirit]

I can't wait for the fiat system to crash. Being an inventor, w/ creativity non-destructive nature, my inventions don't jive w/ corrupt $-system/corrupt peons. Once real-$'s in demand, my ideas r worth gold but now, worth is based in fiat-$. 2B successful in a fiat economy, you have to produce wax apples & chop down the apple trees, find ways to make sheep, sheared for profit, eat 'em. Fiat-$ can't be debased, it gets realer as worth drops, worth-less each day until it's what it is, worthless.

[manoftruth]

LOL, nice one. thanks for the comment

[BankofSpirit]

thanks mot, mot is of motto, the word, so it is mot-to Southern Cali, good stuff my friend, much love to u from he who is aka eye8one2, if u ever come to BC Canada, i'd truly enjoy drinking spring water and breaking some bread with another who is real on reel, not many in this world are truly on the mark, mot, your aim is true, keep rocking for the free world.

[kps75]

You could put the link to the CNBC page in the more info.

[powermousey]

looks like the elite and their various members and puppets are more bold as things come together for their new system, One World Government, and for their coming world leader. Which is inevitable...due to Bible Prophecy and Gods' judgements and ordainments on America, other nations and the whole world. And for the preparations for the 7 year Tribulation period. The reporting is also for the conditioning of people to accept or even acquiesce to this One World Government. watch?v=Nxa19v3eNvc

[BeenInACaveWayToLong]

Proverbs 13:22 - A good man leaveth an inheritance to his children's children: and the wealth of the sinner is laid up for the just.

And so, what shall I leave to my grandchildren after I have consumed all that is in my pantry?

Mine shall inherit silver and with it, fill their pantries.

[slobomotion]

I get a chance to speak to professional people at length here in France often during the week, and I have been having fun spreading the word and finding out where their heads are at. The really don't understand the USA at all -- not even educated people -- I would love to organize a bunch of small investors here in France and organize some urban farming over there in the States. What fun! I am really enjoying these wild times. Best to you!

[audrapriscilla]

If the dollar is destroyed, will that worsen the foreclosure problem since lenders will no longer accept dollars and thats all we have to pay with?

[gatorfleetbm]

Just thought I'd drop you a line. I am investing my savings into silver, ammo etc., food stores. I know the weather in So Cal will do you good. When I go there I'm always in a hurry to leave because I don't want to get stuck there with all of my provisions at home. Vernal is getting quite cold but I'm enjoying it anyhow. I hope you & yours are all doing great. Keep up the good work. 5*****

[campeona5]

Yes food storage is very important but what will you do when your food runs out or rots?? Gold/Silver are the bedrock of monetary systems...WAKE UP!

[SSanf]

The only thing is that just because the government gives to one person, it does NOT mean that they are taking from someone else. That would be true if the economy were a closed system. It is not.

[manoftruth]

I would debate that point. Where would you say they are taking it from?

[SSanf]

They aren't "taking" it from anywhere. It isn't a closed system. Basically, the US writes a check and the banking system honors it. Money is created on an as needed basis. Money is also withdrawn from the system on a perceived basis. There is no actual correlation between work and money. That is a myth given to the populous to make people feel that there is some justice and fair reward to working. It is, however, not true. When one person gets something, it is not "stolen" from someone else.

[nextdimensions]

you are talking about initial creation of money, whereas, the gov that writes the check you mention uses each registered citizen (via the birth certificate) as collateral (promise to pay) therefore: money is loaned into existence via the Treasury's request (on your behalf) and you owe the compounding interest and principle..so money created by the gov is done by taking from you to finance stuff for others...(cont)

[nextdimensions]

(part 2) Money is also created with your signature when you take out loans individually (banks do NOT lend "money", they create it (IOU notes) using YOUR signature)... =money is ONLY created by the people, whether by the individual or by the gov representing you..AFTER the money has been created, taxes are used AGAIN to take from the people, and the gov. redistributes this to others; this is a different example of taking from one to give to another and yet another layer of the scam...

[SSanf]

The fly in that ointment is that they cannot steal from you what you do not own. You never own anything in the first place because what can be simply taken from you is not yours. If your wages can be taken by taxation, you do not own your wages. You do not even own your life or your body because the government can send you to war into places that you will surely die. If you do not go you can be shot as a traitor. Since you own nothing, nothing of yours can be "taken" from you.

[nextdimensions]

yes you are correct, that is the next layer to unpeel, all registrations give up ownership of anything, the birth certificate gives ownership of the child to the gov, we are not allowed to truly own property(alloidal title), all licenses turn a right into a granted privilege which can be taken away and we are not legally allowed to use real money for our transactions -- check out FMOTL (dott) com

[nextdimensions]

I agree MOT, if someone recieved it from the government, it WAS taken from someone else because government doesn't produce anything to begin with!

[SSanf]

Just because someone has produced something that does not make the product theirs. They cannot take what you never owned or had legal possession of. Being an instrument of production never gave you ownership nor legal possession of anything. If it did everyone would be wanting to make sports cars. It does not matter who the government distributes goods and services to. They are not taking those goods and services from the owners. They belong to the government to distribute any way it sees fit.

[manoftruth]

It should if our country was free. The Constitution protects the right to the fruits of one's labor. It is a basic human right that is being violated.

[SSanf]

nextdimensions is on target pretty much. You are nothing but collateral. You do not own anything. You are owned.

[manoftruth]

Yep.

[dmdum]

Yep, I listened to Vickers on Jones, 2 nights ago.

I don't believe he is 100% credible. Jones was taking calls with Vickers on. This women calls in and was like " He is full of it..". She was talking about Vickers. Then another women called and said the same thing. Vickers was sayin that his father worked for Goldman Sachs for a while. And Vickers lived in a monestary. Vickers called Americans lazy, macaroni+cheese sucking people. He said the rest of developing world were our servants.

[manoftruth]

Did not catch that one.

[dmdum]

What Vickers was ultimately saying was that we, Americans live way beyond our means. He was talking about us not caring about the World's resources. About fisherman sucking out all the herring from the sea and nothing being left for the whales. Vickers was actually talking about transfer of wealth to other impoverished nations. He said we all should live equally. He was mentioning all the good the Rockefeller's have done like built all these big parks in the world.

[nextdimensions]

interesting, I don't know much about Vickers except his track record of making really good calls in the markets, his timing is almost like.... like he's got some inside info... ;) with leads into Goldman Sachs...who couldn't! the other comments makes it appear like he is a NWO supporter... remember to be wary of the opponent from the inside ;)

[doobsta]

on the same token...only one will go bad...

Store lots of food...if anything is left over...store it in gold and silver...not FRN's.

FOOD wil always TRUMP metal...until there is a future again...

[manoftruth]

It's great to see that so many of my viewers get it. Thanks for sharing.

[RedDawn2009]

Damon vickers is not credible as a source. He gets his info from Alex jones. I personally

know him. Just a used car salesman who placed a bet and got lucky. It just goes to show you anyone can be conned

[pentel1911]

You doggin' on Alex Jones? He's more credible than anyone in the MSM. It sounds like you are conning yourself.

[TheMetalPerson]

Alex Jones?? you see HIM as non credible? Dude, how about michal moore!! now THAT guy is not credible!!

[nextdimensions]

have you seen Vickers track record? he's hit a lot of home runs for over 20 years

[BeenInACaveWayToLong]

MOT, thank you for the heads-up with Damon Vickers on CNBC. Since I disconnected my TV over a year ago, I often miss what the mass media is up to.

It is significant that these issues are now being talked about in prime air time. I guess the masses are starting to wonder why we are seeing record high gold prices while the media keeps telling them the recovery is underway.

It becomes more visible with every day that passes.

Hopefully there will be more awareness to come.

[manoftruth]

We are on the same page. I am out of touch with mainstream media many times. I watch for clues, etc. etc.

I can tell you see the big picture. You might be in a cave too soon. But a lot of smart people will be in caves real soon.

[Crzykjn]

Is that a hint-hint that the leaders and "elites" are about to utilize or dwell in the underground cities(DUMB's)?

[rlmccullough]

So I will be the first.

YOu seemed reserved, is it worry over what is happening?

Keep us informed Big Brother We count on you!!! stars *********

[keltontrey]

Crap!! I'm trying to decide if I should put money in to metals or just buy supplies for a collapse...what do you think?

[NWOIS666]

@keltontrey  BUY food water etc; you can't eat metals.

[silveraspenleaf]

Please ! enough already wit the "you can't eat metals." You can't jam a bagel into a vending machine either ! Metals are not meant to be eaten. They (gold and silver) are meant to be a store of value for excess wealth. Silver has been money for thousands of years ! Not hundreds but thousands. What part don't you get ?

[manoftruth]

Supplies first.

[nextdimensions]

spend wisely on both, you will need both

[keltontrey]

Thanks everyone, one last question. Where is a good place to buy old silver and gold coins. Thanks again :)

[silveraspenleaf]

Momssilvershop has excellent selection, reasonable prices and incredibly fast delivery

[clarkcolt45]

take a look at ebay too :)

[BeenInACaveWayToLong]

I have found Apmex (dot) com to be the most cost effective and reliable for me.

[GovWillKillU]

the system reinforces speculation, and discourages production. people work at Vons or Kmart for 20 years... they have nothing. better to take your money to a casino and gamble it away, chasing the pipedream than waste away.

[GovWillKillU]

trade your gold... for what. dollars? thats the problem. once you get dollars, you have tog et rid of em! use dollars to hedge your metals.

everyone sees all the props now. the system has cracked, now its only a matter of time... looks will be sooner rather than later

[manofreedom]

Damon Vickers was also on Alex Jones and even Glenn Beck had him on yesterday. Caos will ensue when SS checks and retirement pensions are worthless. We were 85% self sufficient in the 1930s but now only 4% are. Get out of the cities NOW. (I know how Noah felt) Get a small place, only a few acres are needed, and start growing your own food. Stock up on ammo and things you can trade with. Get a solar powered generator. MOT I agree with you...it's at the gate.

[GovWillKillU]

that interview is my lead favorite now. great inverview.. we get a peek at the perspective of the elites... yet he tells alot of economic truth; alomst as if the elites have sanctioned the rise in gold.

[dlmaniac]

Glenn Beck also had a show on this subject.

[missesmakawimaxton]

Isn't that the truth...just a year ago it was a hush hush topic to many people.

[WHEREtheFUNK]

all this means is the USD will be devalued. Just move some cash to a noninflationary asset. Like Gold, Silver, Some Swiss Francs maybe. I am not sure if TIPS will work. Surely agriculture stocks and Chinese infrastucture stocks. Invest in a little bit of lead and copper for sure :/

[TheMetalPerson]

Is it really that simple? I have more than half my money in USD still and i'm scared if i get out now, there will be another dollar rally like in 2008 and i'll be screwed. Its a greedy to think this way, but people are greedy by nature.

Do you buy at 18.50 an oz or do you wait for it to go lower first?

[manoftruth]

You better buy. The dollar trend is down. The dollar will be worth less in a year and will be worthless in 5 or much sooner.

[TheMetalPerson]

You're probably right. I was thinking the same thing when it was at 14.50. like i said, i think greed and denial prevent us from doing the right thing.

[BeenInACaveWayToLong]

I can't tell you what to do. Only what I have done. Back in February, I bought ACDSF, ATPWF, COSWF, ECYAF, FRMSF, HFGVF, HGKGF, MACDF, NCMGF, NZRFF, SMTFF, SPSTF, SVM, VTSYF. This portfolio has doubled in terms of USD since then.

China decoupling Yuan from USD.

Big ride is still ahead!

Have been buying gold and silver off and on and added to my position as recently as 2 weeks ago.

Will continue to look for ways to divest my USD while it devalues.

[manoftruth]

Nice moves. Thanks for sharing your successful ideas with others here. Looks like you have a good cave.

[missesmakawimaxton]

I wish we could meet up!!!

[charloteer]

Damon Vickers appeared on Alex Jones the other day.

Yesterday, Vickers appeared on the Glenn Beck show.

Clips for both should be searchable on youtube.

[ComancheChiefSD]

CNBC - Dollar Will be Utterly Destroyed, Global Currency, New World Order

watch?v=UpgZx-9FLbE

[mejt223]

WE LOVE MOT

[johncoolj]

what price can you see gold rise to by 2012

[jonah70757]

Your guess is as good as any but it will be alot higher than 1150.

[manoftruth]

Over $5000 an ounce, but it will come back down after it peaks. I talk about that a bit in the vid I just shot.

[tinslatee]

I think it will come back down from there too. But I think it will establish a new normal much higher than it is now, probably in the thousands

[Crzykjn]

Was it Peter Schiff or Marc Faber that said $5000? I guess others may have speculated the same.

[manoftruth]

Schiff.

[mrh6976]

You look good relaxed and happy it is good to see

all the best mate

[djangothecat]

MOT, when you calculate the national debt per capita, don't forget to subtract the 50% of Americans who don't pay taxes and then consider the incomes of the tax payers. My point is that since I make over 150k I'll be paying a bigger share than most. I paid $39,000 in taxes last year and this year is looking worse. I'm living as happily as I can now because I'm sure my life style will be coming to an end in the next few years.

-FREEDOM!

[manoftruth]

Great point.  Thanks for explaining it so well!

[Maynardsat]

Turn your Iphone sideways and the calculator switches to a scientific calculator with more digits.

[overlordsshadow]

Thanks mot! The when part is the scary part.

[halfasheep]

out with the consumer society, in with the producer society, I look forward to the change ahead.

[macadily]

It's Amazing, isn't it!!!

They're tipping their hats now as to what's coming down the pike very soon!

"BGSF" Buy Gold Silver & Food!!!!

[ewffaces7]

yep... it's not a good message, but it is the truth.

You better convert every single dollar into precious metals, people !

[manoftruth]

Well, people all over the world are doing it, and will keep doing it as long as people will trade gold for green pieces of paper. But the day will come when that will no longer happen.

[Danster82]

Id love to see some calculations, I mean is it now impossible to pay down the debt?

[manoftruth]

Forget that. It is way to much. Instead of paying it down, Obama is making the debt bubble bigger by trillions.

We have passed the point of no return.

The ship is sinking fast.

[nextdimensions]

that is impossible math, exponential interest created from "borrowing" money into existence seals the fate of the system by design

[nextdimensions]

what would happen if you had to "borrow" more "money" every day to operate your household, and in the mean time you only made the minimum payments on your "debts" and you had no job... that is our government :)

[dvrana]

BRAVO

[kent6608]

great to see economics from you again. The Iphoen is the bomb, right? Grettings from Sweden

[manoftruth]

It is awesome. Say hi to my Peterson relatives.

[online4now]

Thank God we have MOT to explain this complicated math.. 60 trillion divided by 300 million people. Thanks MOT for your Harvard skills.

[crasster1]

It's going down and we all know it.

Get your supplies ready guys!

[carefulcarpenter]

And don't panic!

"Wildflowers survive where soils are harsh; avoiding alligator shoes and careless heart"

~~carefulcarpenter

[37361811]

Was that a quote from Dr. Seuss!!

[carefulcarpenter]

LOL!! dude, you must be a money man?