I remove the comments that only include insults and not actual comments with opinions or information. Your comment was just a two line insult, so I sent you a message telling it was removed, and a suggestion to make actual points.
No comments that has some information value and is on the topic will be removed. Only the rubbish will be taken out.
The last 'drift' of shanedk on all this, is to say that he 'pwned me' and that i deleted my old video (surely because i was so disapointed to have been 'pwned'.... in his mind) he of course have yet to counter anything i've pointed in this video, but hey, it's shanedk we're talking about here, so i'm not expecting him to actually correct his work or admit a mistake, this is just for thos of his supporters that actually do care to take a look at both side of the story (not the majority of them)
Shane, you only shamed yourself with that video. You didn't tell WHY xyzLLLzyx said your astronaut should be so showrt. Even though that is the very thing you should have told.
Shame on you!
And the reason why he said so, was your calculations. You got your 12,98cm using the Moon gravity, and as you see, Moon gravity doesn't fit with the video being real time!
So either NASA is showing us the Moon footages slowed, or your astronaut is a dwarf. Which is it?
You also said you already established the dust and the astronaut fall the same rate.
But it was from this you "establishing it" that made the astronaut dwarf!
You don't only leave out the reason why xyz said your astronaut is sso short, you also use the very same calculation as the proof you established the dust and astronaut same fall rate!
Shame, shame, shame!
You have become a hoaxer yourself. You leave out essential information from the viewers of your video!
The case isn't closed, and we will remind you from this day forward, if you do not correct your points. Because you are now a hoaxer.
The heigth of the astronaut matches...with what?
1) With your calculations about the fall rates? No it doesn't. It makes your astronaut a dwarf.
2) With the height you measured from the video image? Yes of course it does! But then that has nothing to do with the fall rates! It has nothing to do with the problem xyz showed, and which indeed exists.
If you have watched my video, also I agree the astronaut falls as he should on the Moon! So, naturally you will receive the right result when comparing just his jump time and his height in pixels. I did, too!
But xyz claim about the dwarf astronaut and the 12,98cm are when you calculated both the dirt and the astronaut fall rates. That's where you get the short astronaut!
And that was what you were supposed to reply, if you replied to him. And you know it.
The astronaut and the dust fall at the same rate. I PROVED it. Put those two proofs together, and your argument disappears like the pathetic delusion it is.
You proved it with the same calculation that gave the 12,98 cm for the lines' gap. And that proved your astronaut to be a meter tall!
I found the dirt apex about the same place as you, and measured it 30cm high. And you know what? That doesn't make him a dwarf!
Besides, xyz shows you chose the astronaut's apex wrong. He was already falling good time when you started tracking him! His fall and rise should be symmetric. And you know what, it is symmetric in my video!
I measured the dirt 30cm high from the video image, using John's height.
When I calculated the fall time of the dirt, it gave 9cm with the Moon gravity. So both you and I got the dirt height considerably lower (12,98cm and 9cm) when calculating the dirt height from the fall time.
About 30cm dirt fall however makes him right size. But you can't accept that as it doesn't fit to the Moon gravity!
You accepted the 12.98cm, which makes him also a dwarf!
shanedk, watch this video at 0:45 and dare to say that I'm wrong here !
You astroclown, based on the apex you have chosen, will start the jump at frame 241, which is well in mid air already, don't you realize this prove your comparison was TOTALLY invalid ? so how could you have PROVEN that they fall at the same rate, when your comparison is totally invalid ?
Oh, he knows perfectly well that dirt drop distance can't be 12,98 cm. That's why he never directly answers it. That's why he didn't show your claim in the video.
He knows perfectly well his chosen apexes are wrong, but it had to be done, to get the naut and the dirt fall even remotely similar.
But MAYBE he didn't realize it does not agree with measurements from the video image, making his astronaut and dirt fall both twice too short. Or he realized it, and hoaxed it anyway.
Ok, thanks for the hosting Aurinkohirvi, finally i came back a bit sooner than i thought. But the video is in good place here anyway, since peoples really interested in this issue will be able to jump to your jump analysis video.
In the video I say, that shanedk frame 257 is in fact 255. He in fact chosen frame 256, BUT, I say 255, because of the 22 frames (255 + 22) correcting his frame 279 being 277 in the same time. If I would say that he in fact meant frame 256 (which is the one he selected) it would only make 21 frames to 277 and 23 to frames 279. Since frame 279 and 278 are invalid touchdown frames (277 or at worst 276 being the only two valid) I did say that he meant frame 255.
Sony Vegas often added 1 or 2 frames (surely some rounding up), and i had to take care that the frames number are the same than the ones in virtualdub, but if you don't take care (like shanedk) you will talk with a 1 - 2 frames, delay, example frames 255 became 257 etc.
After debating (over a year I think), Shanedk finally revealed his calculations to xyzLLLzyx. Shanedk's calculation showed the dust would have fallen 12,98 cm on the Moon during the time he chose, and he marked this fall with two lines.
xyzLLLzyx found a big problem there: if the dust fall (the gap between the lines) was only 12,98cm, then the astronaut would be only 80 - 90 cm tall!
This is a video made by a friend of mine, xyzLLLzyx. He removed his account and asked me to host his videos until he returns. I'll gladly do this, as they are from the same issue as my video.
Well he did call him a liar when he was still around and as a reaction he made video, then vanished and asked you to host the vid and take the flak for him.
You do realise I was talking about you. I ment just because you're one of those people who keep telling people that humanity never went to the moon, does' nt mean you're knowingly lying. I might just be that you suffer from a delusion. A pretty severe one, because if you're still saying that after seeing all the evidence that people keep showing you, ehhhh.
If you ask me, the evidence points to evolution, not to creationism. That bull may be popular in the States, but where I am creationism isn't supported practically at all.
But I won't chat any more about religion or evolution issues here. It's off topic.
In his reply to xyz he calculated the dirt fall from the ASTRONAUT's fall, even though it was his DIRT fall calculations which made the astronaut a meter tall dwarf! Everyone investigating this case knows the astronaut falls with correct acceleration.
Of course, Shane then could not show what xyz actually had said.
Shane also said he previously proved the dirt and astronaut fell same acceleration rate. But it was this same proving that had the problem!
And has Shane corrected his claim on the ridiculous speed he claims the Apollo footages should be played, if it was an Earth made movie slowed to look like Moon's gravity?
His own calculations showed the dirt fell too fast, and hence the astronauts in wires theory is possible.
Apollo truthers have told Shane his movie showing the astronaut waving arms and walking too fast is a wrong representation, as he "forgot" that the wires were supposed to slow the astronaut's fall. Another of his hoaxes.
Here is the new video AstroClownBuster (former username xyzLLLzyx) made of this case:
Shanedk_foot.wmv
watch?v=yUt9TWgDz9U
Aurinkohirvi 11 months ago
is this shane guy just dumb or a nasa paid shill?
losability 1 year ago
Hello everyone
I am NNRpart2
You know me and you know my thoughts and comments.
Don't fall for CHEAP imitations.
Keep a keen eye from now on.
There are people out here that are cloning accounts to try to discredit members.
They are only doing this because their NASA house of cards is tumbling down.
They are too dumb to debate so they revert to cloning and discrediting.
I guess you can NOW ALL SEE the feeble minds of the moon walk BELIEVERS.
Want TRUTH remember NNRpart2 the ONE and ONLY !
NNRpart2 1 year ago
Well, considering my comment was concerning this video, and the morons that claim a hoax, it is typical that you censored my comment..
"Aurinkohirvi has replied to your comment on Big Navy FINAL (xyzLLLzyx's video):
Make a point, please. Comments including only insults are removed.
Also, make your point about the issue of the video. Comments that have nothing to do with the issue of the video, are removed.
Your comment was removed. "
Truth = insult in your mind I guess.
messiahjonz 2 years ago
I remove the comments that only include insults and not actual comments with opinions or information. Your comment was just a two line insult, so I sent you a message telling it was removed, and a suggestion to make actual points.
No comments that has some information value and is on the topic will be removed. Only the rubbish will be taken out.
Aurinkohirvi 2 years ago
The last 'drift' of shanedk on all this, is to say that he 'pwned me' and that i deleted my old video (surely because i was so disapointed to have been 'pwned'.... in his mind) he of course have yet to counter anything i've pointed in this video, but hey, it's shanedk we're talking about here, so i'm not expecting him to actually correct his work or admit a mistake, this is just for thos of his supporters that actually do care to take a look at both side of the story (not the majority of them)
AstroClownBuster 2 years ago
xyzLLLzyx is a LIAR. I totally pwned his ridiculous story in this video:
watch?v=z5s7yEQ3C5E
So, he deleted his video (and his user) and is now trying to move the goalposts with a completely different claim. Pathetic.
shanedk 2 years ago
@shanedk
Shane, you only shamed yourself with that video. You didn't tell WHY xyzLLLzyx said your astronaut should be so showrt. Even though that is the very thing you should have told.
Shame on you!
And the reason why he said so, was your calculations. You got your 12,98cm using the Moon gravity, and as you see, Moon gravity doesn't fit with the video being real time!
So either NASA is showing us the Moon footages slowed, or your astronaut is a dwarf. Which is it?
Aurinkohirvi 2 years ago
You also said you already established the dust and the astronaut fall the same rate.
But it was from this you "establishing it" that made the astronaut dwarf!
You don't only leave out the reason why xyz said your astronaut is sso short, you also use the very same calculation as the proof you established the dust and astronaut same fall rate!
Shame, shame, shame!
You have become a hoaxer yourself. You leave out essential information from the viewers of your video!
Aurinkohirvi 2 years ago
And Shane, I would give those comments on your video's page, but you have banned me over a year ago.
And you have banned just about every active YouTube Apollo truther as well.
Aurinkohirvi 2 years ago
I only ban people who break the rules, like those who use lies to assassinate the character of others, like you do.
shanedk 2 years ago
No, my video IN NO WAY makes the astronaut a dwarf. I PROVED that.
shanedk 2 years ago
No you didn't.
You only calculated the astronaut's height from the video image. That had nothing to do why your astronaut was said to be a dwarf!
You claimed you responded to xyz's claim, but you did not. You did niot even tell his claim in the video.
You didn't address the fact that it was your calculations of the dirt fall in the Moon gravity, that made the astronaut a dwarf.
Aurinkohirvi 2 years ago
It DOESN'T MATTER! He's WRONG! The height of the astronaut matches, AND the rate of fall of the astronaut matches that of the dust. CASE CLOSED.
shanedk 2 years ago
The case isn't closed, and we will remind you from this day forward, if you do not correct your points. Because you are now a hoaxer.
The heigth of the astronaut matches...with what?
1) With your calculations about the fall rates? No it doesn't. It makes your astronaut a dwarf.
2) With the height you measured from the video image? Yes of course it does! But then that has nothing to do with the fall rates! It has nothing to do with the problem xyz showed, and which indeed exists.
Aurinkohirvi 2 years ago
The height estimation was BASED on the fall rate and you know it.
shanedk 2 years ago
To the fall rate of the ASTRONAUT
If you have watched my video, also I agree the astronaut falls as he should on the Moon! So, naturally you will receive the right result when comparing just his jump time and his height in pixels. I did, too!
But xyz claim about the dwarf astronaut and the 12,98cm are when you calculated both the dirt and the astronaut fall rates. That's where you get the short astronaut!
And that was what you were supposed to reply, if you replied to him. And you know it.
Aurinkohirvi 2 years ago
The astronaut and the dust fall at the same rate. I PROVED it. Put those two proofs together, and your argument disappears like the pathetic delusion it is.
shanedk 2 years ago
An epic proof indeed.
You proved it with the same calculation that gave the 12,98 cm for the lines' gap. And that proved your astronaut to be a meter tall!
I found the dirt apex about the same place as you, and measured it 30cm high. And you know what? That doesn't make him a dwarf!
Besides, xyz shows you chose the astronaut's apex wrong. He was already falling good time when you started tracking him! His fall and rise should be symmetric. And you know what, it is symmetric in my video!
Aurinkohirvi 2 years ago
Damn 500 char limit! Let me clarify.
I measured the dirt 30cm high from the video image, using John's height.
When I calculated the fall time of the dirt, it gave 9cm with the Moon gravity. So both you and I got the dirt height considerably lower (12,98cm and 9cm) when calculating the dirt height from the fall time.
About 30cm dirt fall however makes him right size. But you can't accept that as it doesn't fit to the Moon gravity!
You accepted the 12.98cm, which makes him also a dwarf!
Aurinkohirvi 2 years ago
You need to watch shanedks videos.
GonzoZodiac 2 years ago
shanedk, watch this video at 0:45 and dare to say that I'm wrong here !
You astroclown, based on the apex you have chosen, will start the jump at frame 241, which is well in mid air already, don't you realize this prove your comparison was TOTALLY invalid ? so how could you have PROVEN that they fall at the same rate, when your comparison is totally invalid ?
AstroClownBuster 2 years ago
Oh, he knows perfectly well that dirt drop distance can't be 12,98 cm. That's why he never directly answers it. That's why he didn't show your claim in the video.
He knows perfectly well his chosen apexes are wrong, but it had to be done, to get the naut and the dirt fall even remotely similar.
But MAYBE he didn't realize it does not agree with measurements from the video image, making his astronaut and dirt fall both twice too short. Or he realized it, and hoaxed it anyway.
Aurinkohirvi 2 years ago
Ok, thanks for the hosting Aurinkohirvi, finally i came back a bit sooner than i thought. But the video is in good place here anyway, since peoples really interested in this issue will be able to jump to your jump analysis video.
AstroClownBuster 2 years ago
@AstroClownBuster
Oh, welcome back xyz! What a convenient time! Shane just made his appearance here, with the usual insults and all.
OK, if you think so, I don't mind hosting your videos. It might divide discussion to two channels though. Gimme a personal message of your thoughts.
Aurinkohirvi 2 years ago
Comment mailed to me by xyzLLLzyx
In the video I say, that shanedk frame 257 is in fact 255. He in fact chosen frame 256, BUT, I say 255, because of the 22 frames (255 + 22) correcting his frame 279 being 277 in the same time. If I would say that he in fact meant frame 256 (which is the one he selected) it would only make 21 frames to 277 and 23 to frames 279. Since frame 279 and 278 are invalid touchdown frames (277 or at worst 276 being the only two valid) I did say that he meant frame 255.
Aurinkohirvi 2 years ago
Comment mailed to me by xyzLLLzyx
Sony Vegas often added 1 or 2 frames (surely some rounding up), and i had to take care that the frames number are the same than the ones in virtualdub, but if you don't take care (like shanedk) you will talk with a 1 - 2 frames, delay, example frames 255 became 257 etc.
Aurinkohirvi 2 years ago
@Aurinkohirvi I have used Vegas for YEARS and I can tell you that it DOES NOT DO THIS. AT ALL. EVER.
More lying.
shanedk 2 years ago
I don't have Vegas, so I cannot comment. No need to address the comment to me. The comment was from xyzLLLzyx. I'm only using VirtualDub.
Aurinkohirvi 2 years ago
This is xyzLLLzyx resply to shanedk's video.
After debating (over a year I think), Shanedk finally revealed his calculations to xyzLLLzyx. Shanedk's calculation showed the dust would have fallen 12,98 cm on the Moon during the time he chose, and he marked this fall with two lines.
xyzLLLzyx found a big problem there: if the dust fall (the gap between the lines) was only 12,98cm, then the astronaut would be only 80 - 90 cm tall!
And shanedk calls us Apollo truthers stupid!
Aurinkohirvi 2 years ago
@Aurinkohirvi
Wrong. The astronaut+suit ends up being about 6'3". I've shown that CONCLUSIVELY.
I call you stupid because YOU ARE STUPID.
shanedk 2 years ago
Shane, it was YOUR OWN CALCULATIONS which claimed that the gap of the two lines was 12,98cm. I saw YOUR COMMENT. There is no denying it.
And since you can only fit that gap distance 7 to 8 times to the astronaut height, it makes him a meter tall dwarf.
Aurinkohirvi 2 years ago
This is a video made by a friend of mine, xyzLLLzyx. He removed his account and asked me to host his videos until he returns. I'll gladly do this, as they are from the same issue as my video.
Aurinkohirvi 2 years ago
@Aurinkohirvi
The reason why he removed his account was that he was shown by me and others to be a complete liar. Now, he's back and trying to revise history.
shanedk 2 years ago
You dare call a person a liar, when he isn't around to reply?
What did he lie?
From what xyz told to me, he aims to come back. That's why I said I'm hosting these temporarily. I'm sure he will you a greeting when he does.
Aurinkohirvi 2 years ago
Well he did call him a liar when he was still around and as a reaction he made video, then vanished and asked you to host the vid and take the flak for him.
GumbaMasta 2 years ago
Seems xyz is back.
Shane blaims everyone liars, nothing new there. Has nothing to do with if someone has actually lied.
Aurinkohirvi 2 years ago
Just as not being a liar has nothing to do with being actually wrong about something.
GumbaMasta 2 years ago
I agree, you can be a liar and somehow be right on something, but in this case, he is both a liar, and wrong.
AstroClownBuster 2 years ago
You do realise I was talking about you. I ment just because you're one of those people who keep telling people that humanity never went to the moon, does' nt mean you're knowingly lying. I might just be that you suffer from a delusion. A pretty severe one, because if you're still saying that after seeing all the evidence that people keep showing you, ehhhh.
GumbaMasta 2 years ago
Well, the dirt still does drop with greater acceleration than it would on the Moon. That is not a delusion.
And I'm not the only one saying this. Even your dear shanedk got similar results.
2 years ago I believed Apollo was a real thing. I had been an anmateur astronomer for 25 years, but never looked it detailedly.
When I looked into this case, I noticed something isn't right, and I changed my long standing opinion.
Aurinkohirvi 2 years ago
Just like all those atheist "evolutionists" that get turned into creationist christians by looking at the evidence, eh?
GumbaMasta 2 years ago
@GumbaMasta
If you ask me, the evidence points to evolution, not to creationism. That bull may be popular in the States, but where I am creationism isn't supported practically at all.
But I won't chat any more about religion or evolution issues here. It's off topic.
Aurinkohirvi 2 years ago
At least he can spell and makes coherent sense, Shane's videos are very nicely done we went to the moon get over it.
GonzoZodiac 2 years ago
Nicely done or not, he is a hoaxer.
In his reply to xyz he calculated the dirt fall from the ASTRONAUT's fall, even though it was his DIRT fall calculations which made the astronaut a meter tall dwarf! Everyone investigating this case knows the astronaut falls with correct acceleration.
Of course, Shane then could not show what xyz actually had said.
Shane also said he previously proved the dirt and astronaut fell same acceleration rate. But it was this same proving that had the problem!
Aurinkohirvi 2 years ago
And has Shane corrected his claim on the ridiculous speed he claims the Apollo footages should be played, if it was an Earth made movie slowed to look like Moon's gravity?
His own calculations showed the dirt fell too fast, and hence the astronauts in wires theory is possible.
Apollo truthers have told Shane his movie showing the astronaut waving arms and walking too fast is a wrong representation, as he "forgot" that the wires were supposed to slow the astronaut's fall. Another of his hoaxes.
Aurinkohirvi 2 years ago