Since all these cultures have these stories in common, I think, the Mother and Child represent Mother Earth and Humanity. But things got distorted as time went on.
20.4 Tu ne te feras point d'image taillée, ni de représentation quelconque des choses qui sont en haut dans les cieux, qui sont en bas sur la terre, et qui sont dans les eaux plus bas que la terre.
20.5 Tu ne te prosterneras point devant elles, et tu ne les serviras point; car moi, l'Éternel, ton Dieu, je suis un Dieu jaloux, qui punis l'iniquité des pères sur les enfants jusqu'à la troisième et la quatrième génération de ceux qui me haïssent,
now souls ,are taken under earth .please request you to request make bring back all the souls ,every molecules to earth .and make good dissison to save every one . request to give death panality for me,mother ,and father ,and even to my two brothers,and one sister to soul ,grand soul ,kundaliy , by giving or injecting poision ( which science & scientits can produce ) and ( shown in the "dasavataram "tamil & hindi india movie )burn infront of everyone on the earth only .
Some people are so easily offended. I think this is absolutely wonderful. (the video I mean. The fact that people are easily offended is at best, amusing)
One image that shows up at 1:49 is NOT a depiction of the Blessed Virgin Mary. It looks to be a statue of the first US citizen who was canonized -- Mother Francis Cabrini, who was born in Italy, came to the US to do missionary work among the poor, and became a naturalized American citizen. Just because it has a veil and a long tunic/dress doesn't mean it's necessarily the BVM.
@thecommentmonster Well, that depends what branch of catholicism you adhere too... it is not offensive to me, neither for most people in Mexico. We know the difference of course, of God's Mother and Mother Goddess... but both make sence, because all of our religious history, theology, lithurgy etc... The apparent contradictions are all faded in our sacred text, the Nican Mopohua,of Our Most Beloved Mother, Totlazohnanztin Mariam Cuatlaxopeuhtzin, Tonantzin Sta. Maria Guadalupe.
@Quetzalcuetlachtli AsI said... Wojtila had no apparent problem with our faith, as he understood we are descendants of great cultures, an originary civilization, with own Theological and cosmological principles... As long as we understand THE CHRIST, The Life, The Love... we did it..long, long ago...form our religions.
Please, try to understand; not just judge and fight. Any question, I am open to answer it, ifasked politely.
Why somuch fighting? even my iranian shia friends understood our faith
Independent of her role in roman, greek, or native churches, Mary representss indeed the cosmic archetype of the Great Mother (as It is understood here), but not just the archetype of the Lady of the Worlds, The Source of everything, but also Mariam, María, Madre de Cristo. Mariam, the most lovable, most loable, the mirror of wisdom, the throne of wisdom, the pillar, the spiritual vessel, mercy and compasion, the heart Itself.
As Jesus is Life and creation, He is with Mary. Co-redemptress.
There is one God... the sages gives God many names, God manifests in multiple facets and shapes... God is not tied to anything, anything... Huh... people continue fighting... it is senseless... If ypu've study theology and religions and if you have a natural charisma and revelations, you'll realize this... But oh well... many seem to don't understand this... wanna fight, wanna fight.
and dont pay attention to all misstypings or general errors. English is not my mother tongue, and I am trying to express as spontaneously and fluidly as I can... even in Spanish or Nahuatl I would commyt typos...
Thanks, and Blessings for all those with Good heart and a Great Will.
Johannes Paulus even apologized for the horrible acts perpetrated by the heads and by some very important people of the "holy roman church". That is something major... admitt the vileness and rotting of the great Leviatan... Laudable, venerable. He was a great wise man, that is why we love him so much in Mexico and he loved so much Mexico. Contradictions? yes, to many.. as with ALL history... but such is life, such is history, that is the way the becoming and history of humankind is formed.
with our faith, as you can see joy joyful and happy he is when traditional sorceresses and healers blow and clenases him with saint copal and perform a traditional healing and protective ceremony. I asure you the women were not roman catholics, indeed members of native church, the milenary faith of our ancestors, from which Christ has been accepted and loved and his message, Life an Love theirselves incorporated, without Christ having a problem.
Mary is venerated in the Catholic Church, she isn't worshipped. It is through her intercession and her love for us that we pray to her for God's mercy and love. The best way i can think of describing it is as a child would go to their mother if they wanted something, and then the mom would talk with the father about it. That isn't worshipping, that is asking for her intercession. The fact that mary is actually worshipped in some countries has to do with older practices which include a mother god
referring to Our Blessed Mother you wrote: "...shes is indeed worshipped, at least is some parts like Mexico, Guatemala, Perú, etc. That is beacause althought we are catholic, its not the same as roman catholicism. Here María Tonantzin is equated with Jesus, and even more present"
If this is fact.... it is heresy which is adherence to a religious opinion contrary to church dogma. Thus we should DIS-courage not IN-courage this belief.
@libsemik discourage it if you want. I respect true roman catholics that live their lives with virtue; but let me tell you something. Roman Imperial Catholicism is decreasing and weakining; meanwhile native churces and faiths (even as diferent religions but who live and comprehend the Love of Christ) are very alive, healthy and in continuous developmente, theologically, socially and religiously speaking. You should RESPECT. Even beloved Juan Pablo II, Wojtyła, had no problem.
@Quetzalcuetlachtli I dont even know what "Roman Imperial Catholicism" means...? But I can assure you that NO Pope of the Latin Rite has ever promoted or approved worship of anyone or anything over the Worship of The Most Blessed Trinity...regarding your comment "diferent religions..." there is only One True Church to think otherwise is to accuse Our Blessed Lord of Spiritual adultery...as we say in our Creed ...One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church...regardless of how small it becomes
ok then... it is so difficult to argue with someone that is so attached to a particular institutional dogma and with already a very rigid thought and cognition structures...
no problem. the church is the people of the Christ, the people of the Christ are many, the are only one church, and for that matter, neither me nor you are mistaken...
I do not to argue more, i'm tired. I know what i Know and said what i've got to said. I'm not lying as with pope Wojtłiwa. He supported natiie churches.
@Quetzalcuetlachtli As stated to his letters to the diocese of San Cristobal de las Casas, Chiapas, Mexico. And his love and attitude toward Mexico. The video I am telling you of the riatul blessing and healing by the sorceresses and traditional medics is in the video of his last visit to Mexico, at the Holy Shrine of Tepeyacac de Ntra. Señora Tonantzin Guadalupe.
Of course he may not approved many practices or statements, at list publicly, but please, he was the head of Roma. we dont trust roma
@Quetzalcuetlachtli but Papa Juan Pablo II was someone special, very very special, endowed with real charisma and the love and grace of christ sprouting form all his Self; I dont care if he was the Head of Roma, the Imperium, born from the rotten entrails of Rome, and onw of the great monopolizers of a faith that should never been institutionalized. ¿you dont remember all the atrocities commited to my people and many people in name of crist?... holy cra... tremendous sins.
You can read the Nican Mopohua (Here it is refered), translated from náhuatl. The most antique document that testifies the apparition of our beloved Tonantzin María Cuatlaxupeh (Guadalupe), at th old sanctuary of the Mother Goddess in Tepeyacac. A sacred text that explains and sustains the syncretic new faith. You can seehow she presents as Tonantzin, as well as Mariam. Mother of Ipalnemohuani (Giver of Life) and Tloke Nauake (Owner of closeness and the along), all prehispanic titles.
@libsemik I agree with you, that is what it means. In oethodox catholicism Our Blessed Mother is, at least officially venerated, as the Saints, not worshipped. And I agree in changing description, but the reality is that, shes is indeed worshipped, at least is some parts like Mexico, Guatemala, Perú, etc. That is beacause althought we are catholic, its not the same as roman catholicism. Here María Tonantzin is equated with Jesus, and even more present,
@Quetzalcuetlachtli because there is a continuity of our antique religions -not in all people, but in many-; Christ and christianity is indeed here refunctionalized and resymbolized from the old faiths, and because the Great Mother, or feminine aspect of God is and has been for millenia so important, that's why Mary here is a complex Divinity that encompasses of course Holy Mary, as well as God Mother,
@Quetzalcuetlachtli and even in the more orthodox cath churches you can see her holy image in the altar as central, even before that of Jesus. In the native churches this even more evident as she is directly praised and referred as Mother of the universe. We said Corazón de Jesús, Corazón de María unidos. As for us is one with the Christ and co-redemptress. I know the christian scriptures as our old word, and there is no contradiction. We feel and live the Love deeply. Not heresy, dif theology.
I do no longer beg for respect, I DEMAND RESPECT FOR OUR SACRED FAITH. And you, everyone must respect every religion, as all are manifestations of God to mankind.
And, brother, you don't have to negate your own faith and religious convictions by at least trying to comprehend other theologies, other cultures. A I've told, I am not into anything new age mine is a living faith shared by millions, so if by mere curiosity you want to have a glitch. I told you this because you are respectable in the sense that, as me, you know and defend yer faith, and that is laudable, in despite yer agressiveattitude
This is an antique hymn almost entirely in nahuatl dedicated to Our Holy Venerated Mother, chanted at peregrinations and at Holly Tepeyacac. ¡Ay Tonantzintli tlauel in yehyectzin Moixpantzin! ¡Ay madrecita, qué preciosa joya eres! María linda.
Worth to listen, really beautiful.
Just want to show to the world that we are not "evil heretics who will be cast into hell".
Our faith is unique and must be respected as every religion.
@Quetzalcuetlachtli Forgive, this is the adress: watch?v=MNvbxpXcvAA&feature=related.
And as a fact, I adhere to the Traditional Mexican Catholic Church, but I dont have a problem to participate in other ntive chrches and rites, indeed is a joy.
There are many diff. native churches and religions as there are cultures and languages in México. But the one, the only that link and knit together all of us 400 peoples is MARÍA TONANTZIN GUADALUPE, one with CHRIST.
This is the same hymn in perfect contemporary central nahuatl and shows beautiful images of our religion in its many dif. branches and native churches. All celebrating God Mother and God's Mother, many peoples with own precious lithurgies and traditions. That shows very much the ways and Glory of our religion in its many forms. We are Christians, but our tradition adheres much more to the Mother, since antiquity, but finally one God, recognized since prehispanic times.
This one is from the Holy Mass of december 10 celebrated at the Seminary Cristo Rey y Santa María de Guadalupe (Traditional Mexican Catholic Church) in the vespers of the celebration of Our Beloved Lady Tonantzintli Coatlaxopeuhtzin, María Guadalupe. With the beautiful Guadalupan hymn sang both in náhuatl and spanish:
I'm telling you a fact. Your historical reconstructionism, spiritual revisionism, and new age nonsense doesn't mean anything. Just know that if you ever were a Catholic, the state of your soul is as I have stated according to the Church. That is a kind warning to you.
@MonaghanMan3000i I dont care if you live happily and with virtue yer faith; better, I am happy with that. If you are so attachd to roman-judaic dogma it is ok; but please, stop imposing on people faith and religions... Maybe you think we need another satanic "saint" inquisition to torture and shed blood in the name of God... I dont care. Peace be upon you and yer family; again, may God Bless you, brother.
Fighting like this IS nonesense. Christ is Life. I've said what I have got to said.
@MonaghanMan3000 No historical reconstructionism, nor spiritual revisionism, no "new age". I born and grow in this faith. NO new age; I just follow the old traditions of my family, my people, my country, and what I want to do is to try to explain this to whomever don't understands, I'm just tired of fanatical dogmatic roman catholic people attacking what is most sacred for us. I try to explain with History, Theology, Anthropology.. not reconstruct or invent anything.
We have our own Lithurgies, doctrines, traditions and interpretation of the Bible and Gospels, our Lithurgies are based on the Word of Christ, but also in our own antique docrines, prophets and wisdom. We are not romans, not europeans, not from everywhere but form Cemanahuac, this Holy Land.
We LIVE with passion and joy our religions. We live with Love, Joy, Bliss and Grace the Love of God.
I leave you here some examples of our lithurgy and traditions.
Galatians is reserved about the teaching of the Jerusalem church and is hostile toward Judaizers who would impose Jewish distinctives, codified in the Mosaic Law, on Gentile converts. Many testimonies are that Paul did not rejected other religions, diverse manifestations of God or religious practices, as long as they do not contradict the ten commandments, the most important for him was to bring the Heart of CHRIST to the hearts people, the Water of Life. Thats Grace, not dogma, nor institutions
Yes, I am an anathema, but in the original greek meaning of the word, Ανάθεμα: Offering.
I am an offering to God, as all mankind is meant to be. God is praised by all which exists, by the entire universe. Actions or thoughts of men are those which may do the contrary... Because we are image and resemblance of God, we have free will, to create, to destruct, to love, or to kill.. and of course, we will be (and are, at all time) measured by our actions and choices.
@Quetzalcuetlachtli Ppl from all religions and branches of religions call each other heretic, apostate, "enemy"... How much blood've been shed on the name of Christ, God, Allah, etc... Essence of religions must be Yocoxcayotl, Salam, Shalom, Peace, Life, the Christ. Jesus is LEV is THE HEART, He is Emmanuel, God with us. You really think He wants people to shed blood, or spread hate on His Name, oh brother?..
@Quetzalcuetlachtli "For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him". John 3:17.
The catholic church of Christ is not the Roman Catholic church (founded centuries later as an institution), it IS indeed the people, the people of The Christ. Jesus did not wanted institutions. Jesus did not wanted Judaic Patriarcal dogma to be abided and practiced by ALL mankind.
Moses brought universal law to mankind, Jesus the Grace, the Glory, the Love.
Hey, Coptic, Assyrian-aramaic churches, Ethiope church, and the church founded in persian territories by Levai Yudai Thadai, Snt. Jude Thadaeus, have more antiquity, some by centuries to what is the constituted Roman Catholic church.
The real pauline doctrine, also called pagan christianity, claims that Paul transmuted Jesus the Jewish Messiah into the universal (in a wider meaning "catholic") Saviour.
Pauline Christianity is the development of thinking about Jesus in a multireligious-multicultural missionary context; James decreed that Christ was for the Gentiles and not just for the Jews.
Christians themselves disagree as to how far there was tension between Paul and the Jerusalem Church. One difficulty is the tension between Acts and Paul's letters; another is the disparity between his views in different letters.
@Quetzalcuetlachtli Anathema means ONLY "without breath." As in being without the Holy Spirit. I am not aggressive, I am matter of fact. You are a heretic, seeking to deceive as many people as possible. "I" don't cast you anywhere. "I" don't excommunicate you. You have done that yourself. Perhaps, you should look into the subject of excommunication. It is a serious matter, and you should take it seriously. I am making you aware of the state of your soul according to the Catholic Church. Later.
Many dont understand many things... blinded by dogma. I am not in anywaw "new age" I am a mexican catholic, who have and love bothe the word and legacy of Bible as that of our sacred word, books, tradition, and appreciate wisdom of all religions, as there is only One Principle, with many faces, manifested culturally to all mankind. I've grown like that. Im not heretical, even less, silly or "demon inpired".
@Quetzalcuetlachtli And even I respect and revere all virtuous religious traditions, I cling, I take refuge in my tradition. Catholic Paganic Mexican. Haaah... Pagan is a generic Im not pagan, but as I better laugh. Maybe some fundamentalist roman catholics or protestants or whatever sect would be scandalized and angry by this affirmation. But it is lack of understandement and lack of will to undertand. Just that.
Rmmber, catholic=universal, as preached by Paul; apostole of the gentiles.
@Quetzalcuetlachtli As for everything else you have said, you are completely wrong. Your Marian theology is completely defunct and unexampled anywhere else in the world outside of your own head. You've propounded heresy after heresy, here. I could write a whole book refuting you, but the Bible and the Catechism both do that already. If you think you are a Catholic, you need to go share these opinions of yours with a priest so that he can set you straight before you heap up damnation on yourself.
@MonaghanMan3000 I share my opinions. We have our churches, indigenous churches and the Mexican Catholic Church (not roman; romans were decadent barbarians who used christianity as a political tool). write yer book and send it if ye want. I and we are happy with our religion my brother, it does not "exists just in my head" is a cultural thing, and we are not going to damnation. God stablishes different modes of relationships with many diff peop. It's cultural.
@Quetzalcuetlachtli Heretics don't have the right or the power to bless anyone. Blessing is a good and all Good comes down from the Father of Lights. You serve a false God. You are anathema. If you were once a Roman Catholic, you have excommunicated yourself from the Holy Church, are numbered along with Satan and the fallen angels, and the reprobate spirits of the damned. You are cast into outer darkness, where there is wailing and gnashing of teeth.
@MonaghanMan3000 Please, for the matter, NO ONE has the POWER to BLESS, but GOD. It is God that gives the grace, to manifest in words of man, from the wish of its soul, which is but a manifestation of its spirit, which is the Spirit of God. When we bless we ask, we wish, we want the love of God to be sent. We say 'may' God Bless you, not 'I bless you". For that matter exists th formula I bless you in the Name of God, but that is reserved, for the most wise, for the pure, not for everyone.
@MonaghanMan3000 You are very agressive, casting me to the Gehenna and darkness. You are not just condemning me, but entire peoples, peoples which are people of God. That's serious, man.
I sense more evil, more poison in yer words indeed; even if said with the conviction of doing good, of defending an interpretation and dogma what you think is the unique truth. Ye are spreading hate, even if you do not agree with a theology or lithurgy, there are indeed christian ways to debate, brother.
@Quetzalcuetlachtli You wander throughout the earth seeking to confuse good with evil and evil with good, seeking the ruin of souls. Being deceived you seek to deceive. A vain thinker, you have abandoned the sacred teaching of the Apostles, the friends of Christ and shepherds of all the flock of those who worship the True God, with true intent, and true doctrine. Knowing the truth you betrayed it, and your sins are far more grave than if done in ignorance. Repent, quickly.
The poster of this video is a "New Age" nut-job spiritualist. He's probably demon possessed from playing with reiki or some other occult garbage. Shame on you!
Mother Goddess??? Is this some kind of fundamentalist smear/ sabotage of Catholicism. Quit defaming the Mother of Christ. Change the title or take this video down and quit being a heretic. Seriously, what are you thinking. Do you realize this is idolatry? That this is a completely anathemized heresy?? That this is scandal? Take this down, go to confession and repent. You should really talk to a priest and read the document Lumin Gentium 60-80. This isn't ok. This isn't a joke.
@MonaghanMan3000 You are part of the wholly institutional view of things. Study the most deep symbols in chrystianity. Mariam is the Mother of her Father and the Daughter of her son. She is the Heart Herself, She Is with the Christ, She is Throne of Wisdom, Spiritual Vessel, Vessel of Life, Health of the Sick, Pillar of Wisdom, Pillar of King David, Door of Heaven, House of Gold... She is ascended by God...
@Quetzalcuetlachtli ¿Who is that woman who rises atop Her Beloved, in the middle of the desert, such as column of incense and myrrh?...
¿have you prayed a rosary? ¿do you know Marianic lethanies?... Mariam is God Mother, a Lovely and salvific advocation of the Great Mother. The source of eveything.
God is not just Father, is Father and Mother.
And Jesus I doubt would be against this considerations. He came not to judge, but to bring peace and salvation. He is Life, Life is the Mother and Father
@Quetzalcuetlachtli No. Mary is the mother of her Son and God, Jesus Christ. If you knew what you were talking about you would know that Christ is the brother of the believer and the first person of the Trinity is the Father of the believer. You're in open heresy. I am part of the institutional view of things, you're right. I am part of the institute which Christ instituted Himself in 33 A.D. the Catholic Church. I hold the opinion of the Apostolic See; we hold the true faith. You are wrong.
@MonaghanMan3000 Hold yer interpretation as you wish and understand brother... just don't fight... we praise one God, One Cause, One giver Of Life... even if distinctly in shape.
please change the Title "Mother Goddess" is both idolatary, heresy and misleading. Never has our magesterial authority ever refered or taught her to be a "Goddess." calling her such is blasphamy!
@80fann were calling her a goddess now cos her cause is good even if her main worshippers are the catholics. THE Goddess is a universal archetype, shes ANY pure good female power, that includes mary.
Will never be able to fully enjoy a video b/c it all comes down to religion. Why can you religious people just accept that we are all just different and have different views. Do you not want to live in peace? Do you want to have enemies and haters? Do you want to live a life of hatred and disrespect for you fellow humans. Take a good look around you, We are ALL different and we all live on a place called earth. Obviously if we were suppose to be the same then we would be by now. Get over it.
@eipirani you are idiot. Did you do a research before you gave comment like that? The song in Sister Act is I Follow Him and this song (Salve Regina) is totally different. I Follow Him is just about a few years. Meanwhile Salve Regina is about several centuries. Shut your mouth up if you don't know.
@eipirani you are idiot. Did you do a research before you gave comment like that? The song in Sister Act is I Follow Him and this song (Regina) is totally different. I Follow Him is just about a few years. Meanwhile Salve Regina is about several ceSalve nturies. Shut your mouth up if you don't know.
Mary is not a goddess. She is the mother of God, but she is not to be worshipped.
She deserves respect and reverence, just as the Saints do, and we may pray to her and ask her intercession. But there is only room for three in the Trinity.
Please change the name of the video. That's mainly why we Catholics are called idolaters, because they think we worship Mary.
Come on, really, please dont say that we are not "true Christians", it is EXTREMELY unchristian of you. You have no right to say that we do not study scriptures as well and correctly as you do.
As for Tradition I offer you this passage.
So then, brothers, stand firm and hold to the teachings we passed on to you, whether by word of mouth or by letter. 2Thessalonians 2:15
And for prayers for the dead I suggest you search the second book of Maccabees.
@willy92507 And yet again when it states"Show me your faith without deeds and I will show you mt faith by what I do. You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that."James 2:18 This sounds a lot like the argument between Catholics and Protestants (not Christians because Catholics are Christian as well as we believe in Christ). If Protestants read this verse, then they would realize that sola fide (only faith)means nothing and that works 9 as Protestants call them)areneeded.
@Archangel777Catholic OKAYYY, but you are still missing the point, and NO, I am not protesrant, I am Christian, and any Christian who is a real Christian knows that, you are to go to the Father through Jesus. By the way, I believe faith without works IS DEAD, just as much I believe that Jesus said, "NO ONE CAN COME TO THE FATHER BUT BY ME..." Bro, you need to read your Scriptures a little harder
@willy92507 If you are a Christian but not a Catholic, you are a Protestant. That is a fact regardless of what you think, your religion's founder protested against another Christian religion (probably Catholicism) and made another. And "bro", I have read them. Yes, no one can go to the Father except through faith in Jesus. However, you missed the part where one needs to act upon said beliefs. Believing is not enough to get you into heaven. Sorry, "bro".
@Archangel777Catholic Acts, meaning the laying down of your life, not giving into the lust of our eyes and flesh, to be ready and willing to do the will of the Father rather in or out of season, and that is what i do, bro. And if i didn't really think you were a Christian, why would i be calling you bro, I've called you bro a couple times already??? Im sorry if you're a sis, its always wrong to assume, but i did call you bro...But, all I'm trying to say is that we as a peopl;e of GOD should
@Archangel777Catholic be going through Christ to get to the Father, He is the ONLY WAY, NONE OTHER. Scriptures definately say that... And i do do works, so please don't lie and tell me i don't, because your wrong...You're only saying that, because I'm telling you what the Scriptures say, there is NO WAY AROUND JESUS TO THE FATHER.P.E.R.I.O.D... And yes, works without faith is dead, but what does that have to do with praying to Mary, John, Peter, Pope, Luke, Thomas, Mathew, all of thwe above have
@willy92507 Catholics absolutely do NOT, I repeat, NOT pray to the saints. We ask them to pray for us. If you were to present a king a pig that has been recently hunted down by you, would you give it directly to him, or would you first give it to his wife, who knows how he likes it? So too with prayer. Do not the saints (who are in heaven) know exactly what kind of prayers God desires from us? So, Catholics put "pray FOR us" in all prayers THROUGH the saints.
Amen. If a loved one were very sick, wouldn't you ask your friends to pray to the Almighty Father for that person? It is no different with Mary and the Saints.
@Archangel777Catholic become idols, ALL. Why on earth would Jesus,empty Himself of His Heavenly authority, become flesh, and dwell among us, obey the Father, suffering temptation in the flesh. Be led to a cross willing obeying the Father never opening His mouth to sin by uttering obsenities, NEVER. He was led to the slaughter, He died after hanging on that tree like a piece of meat, because He was marred more than any man, He died as cursed man, was buried, and the Father rose Him on the 3rd
@Archangel777Catholic day, He sprinkled His blood on the alter of Heaven, there GOD gave Him a name HIGHER THEN ANY NAME, IN HEAVEN, ON EARTH, AND UNDER THE EARTH, that ONLY at HIS NAME, EVERY KNEE WILL BOW... ARE you getting that. Not at His mothers name, or His followers names, but at HIS NAME every knee will bow.... I don't think you still get that...
@willy92507 Because why on earth would He go through all of that; for us, who have been saved by that grace alone? Why, why would we spit in His face by neglected such a profound salvation for another doctrine??? That makes absolutely NO SENSE.....
@willy92507 Catholics appeal to the blessed virgin to pray FOR us... it is equivalent to you asking your friends to pray for you only she is the mother of Jesus. As we know from the miracle at Cana our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ dearly loves his mother Mary and performed miracles simply because she asked him to. We believe that if Mary asks Christ on our behalf that perhaps we too may receive His blessings and miracles. As to saints, they are formally recognized
@omGOP3 To the first part of your sermon, where does it say this in the Scriptures, where does it give you or I the right to pray to another person, who who wrote that and what Scripture does that comes from??? As to the second, no one perfect NO, NOT ONE, the only one Scripture tell us to go to is JESUS. . Brother, you do err in this, why else would there be such a profound salvation, for you to spit in our Saviour face.Jesus is the only one who bears this task, He sits at the right hand of
@willy92507 Actually, Mary was perfect and conceived without sin. How else would God have accepted her, body and soul directly into heaven per the Blessed Assumption?
@Archangel777Catholic --- Furthermore ---- [about Mary w/out sin] she continued to be sinless throughout here life until her assumption. Because your "body is a temple" would God really have excepted anyone less than perfect to bring His only son, our Lord and Saviour into this bleak and sinning world?
@Archangel777Catholic Please don't, Jesus, who sits at the right hand of the Father, He is the ONE who intercedes for me, I will pray to Him for you... As a matter of fact, I will ask ALL my brothers, sisters, mothers, All who are in the faith of Christ,, to pray that the spiritual eyes be opened, that your ears will hear what His Spirit is saying to you this day...That He cause you to see that it is religon that puts a wall between you and El Elyon, to have a relationship with God is better
@willy92507 Too late. I already did. I will be sure to ask my youth group which contains about forty people to pray for you and others like you that they may have the grace to learn the truth that is inherent in Catholicism. I hope that the Holy Spirit will shower its blessings upon you and all of your brothers, sisters, and mother to accept the doctrine of the Most Blessed Catholic Church. Have a nice Advent.
@Archangel777Catholic Well we already pray against necromance, you ever heard of Samhain? Thats right, traditions of men.... Acknowledge your dead, commune with them, huh/ What did Jesus say to the one who said he needed to take care of his dead?
@willy92507Remember Maccabees, when it specifically tells to pray for the dead and inquire of their help?Or I suppose you took that book out of the Bible because you didn't like it?Typical Protestant tactic: if we can't support it or if it contradicts our easy way into heaven take it out and make it Apocryphal.Remember Revelations?Whoever takes out of the Bible will have their share of heaven taken away?Hence Catholicism is the way to heaven.Therefore pray through others.Therefore you are wrong.
@Archangel777Catholic whoa man. don't insult the protestants. I am a Catholic and I was persecuted every day for three years by a school that did not respect me because of my religion. they may have been protestant but they were only a small group of people. by persecuting them so thoughtlessly as you did makes you no better than those who prosecuted me. I am Catholic and that is why I will speak out against this and defend my fellow family in Christ, no matter what their creed.
@Archangel777Catholic You are to glorify THE FATHER in Heaven, bro, the only way to do that is to glorify His SON, Scriptures definately say that, yet you turn from that, because you rather please man, follow their traditions, but i, no, I live and long to please God, because I want to be near to Him, to serve Him with an honest heart, to give Him all I can, and I try to do that the best I can , by the way the Scripture says, "To love the LORD my GOD with all my heart soul, and stregth, and to
@Archangel777Catholic love my neighbor as myself." Believe, I really am convicted to say these things because they are pressed on my heart to say, but I do no say these because I seek to hurt or to fight anyone on here. I say them with conviction, because I believe I am led to. Bro, you can heed and take these words or leave them, I'm just doing what I'm convicted of doing. By the way, you don't need to pray to others but Jesus. I leave you with this. Why on earth would you have to pray to
@Archangel777Catholic anyone eslse other than He, Jesus, who prayed this prayer; Hebrews chapter 1:
“Father, the hour has come. Glorify your Son, that your Son may glorify you. 2 For you granted him authority over all people that he might give eternal life to all those you have given him. 3 Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent. 4 I have brought you glory on earth by finishing the work you gave me to do.
@Archangel777Catholic 5 And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began. 6 “I have revealed you[a] to those whom you gave me out of the world. They were yours; you gave them to me and they have obeyed your word. 7 Now they know that everything you have given me comes from you. 8 For I gave them the words you gave me and they accepted them. They knew with certainty that I came from you, and they believed that you sent me.
@Archangel777Catholic 9 I pray for them. I am not praying for the world, but for those you have given me, for they are yours. 10 All I have is yours, and all you have is mine. And glory has come to me through them. 11 I will remain in the world no longer, but they are still in the world, and I am coming to you. Holy Father, protect them by the power of[b] your name, the name you gave me, so that they may be one as we are one.
@Archangel777Catholic 12 While I was with them, I protected them and kept them safe by[c] that name you gave me. None has been lost except the one doomed to destruction so that Scripture would be fulfilled. 13 “I am coming to you now, but I say these things while I am still in the world, so that they may have the full measure of my joy within them.
@Archangel777Catholic 14 I have given them your word and the world has hated them, for they are not of the world any more than I am of the world. 15 My prayer is not that you take them out of the world but that you protect them from the evil one. 16 They are not of the world, even as I am not of it. 17 Sanctify them by[d] the truth; your word is truth. 18 As you sent me into the world, I have sent them into the world. 19 For them I sanctify myself, that they too may be truly sanctified.
@Archangel777Catholic 20 “My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message, 21 that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me. 22 I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be one as we are one— 23 I in them and you in me—so that they may be brought to complete unity.
@Archangel777Catholic Then the world will know that you sent me and have loved them even as you have loved me. 24 “Father, I want those you have given me to be with me where I am, and to see my glory, the glory you have given me because you loved me before the creation of the world. 25 “Righteous Father, though the world does not know you, I know you, and they know that you have sent me.
@Archangel777Catholic 26 I have made you[e] known to them, and will continue to make you known in order that the love you have for me may be in them and that I myself may be in them.”
@omGOP3 the Father, it is He and He alone who intercedes for us, for it was His blood which paid such a great price for us to even enter the throne room in Spirit.
@willy92507 as people that have lived a wonderful life in true dedication and reverence to Christ... they are the people that we recognize as living such sacred Christian lives [most "losing their lives" for their beliefs and "finding" a new life in heaven] that they too deserve a degree of reverence and respect. We count them as holy friends in high places [excuse the pun] who are more capable of a perfect prayer than we can hope to attain. As the old testament stresses, it is not the # ofwords
@willy92507 and you. don't provoke Archangel777Catholic. By trying to give him/her a jesus moment when you haven't even scheduled it with Jesus is not going to work in your favor. try to understand their side instead of ridiculing every aspect of it.
@Archangel777Catholic If I can just point out... SOLA FIDE is a [new] "tradition" in the view of religion, unlike Catholicism which was started by Jesus Christ himself and guided by the Holy Spirit ever since, this belief/tradition was begun by none other but the heretic Martin Luther [who was extremely racist, Anti-Semitic, & a misguided man wanted to start a NEW religion so that he could satisfy his lust w a former nun] sounds to me an awful lot like a man leading Christians astray
@omGOP3 Yes, I know. Did I accidentally use it wrong somewhere? If so, I am sorry. You sound like me on another page telling the truth about that adulterer and iconoclast with whose name I will not stain this post. Thanks for having by back with that willy92507 argument, I didn't notice it for a while. Catholic blood runs deep. Pax et bonum.
@Archangel777Catholic -Praises be to Jesus [now and always] pas du problem... no you totally had it right... I was just emphasizing and presenting an additional point
@Willy92507 Do you ever ask members of your family to pray for you? Well, that is EXACTLY what catholics do when we pray to the saints. Please, I beg you to look at both sides of the argument before you start insulting things so dear to your fellow christians such as tradition (which is scriptural).
@178Lawrence Yeah, but I don't ask dead members of my family, they are gone, they cannot intercede for me when their spirit is crying out for justice, as it says in Revelations. Only person it says is Scriptual that he prays for you after His death was Jesus. I follow the word, NOT the traditions of men, they can LEAD YOU ASTRAY
@willy92507 Religious tradition isn't founded by men themselves but by the Holy Spirit. Jesus said so himself, he did not come to abolish the law but to fulfill it. Thus we are not free to live without the observance of both the new AND old testament teachings. Catholicism follows not the tradition of men but of Judaic teachings & Jesus Christ himself as well as the explanations and letters of the apostles which were inspired by the Holy Spirit. We try to preserve our faith from evil influence
i love this video. i think, god is in everything and he loves all of us.whatever we believe or not. i don´t think that he punishes evryone for anything. that can only do people themself. judging and guilt and punishing has nothing to do with god...it´s human and people had wrote these things. god is only love and jesus was a man, nothing more, his son, like all of us are his children.love is the only way, everything else is human and god must be bigger than that.
@leiaco Wow Satan has your ear. If you truly believe what wrote. You are falling into his plans. If you do not believe the wrath of God. Look at Haiti voodoo capital of the world. Earthquake, Flood, Disease. Kinda biblical dont ya think?
@jadams2768 Just because Hati is prone to natural disaters does not mean anything. look at america we Have hurricane season in some states, tornados in otheres, and wildfires. Also most thrid world countries such as Hati are prone to disease also but once again I am not telling you what to believe that is your choice not mine.
@jadams2768 be careful! christ told us not to judge and insinuating that the poor haitians almost " deserved" the earthquake is extremely judgementaland in my opinion at least,rather cruel! as christians it is our duty to help in whatever way we can; send money and pray for them for instance!
To those who do not refer to Mary as a goddess, that is fine, but understand that in other cultures she is considered an Ascended Master and a goddess. She is mentioned throughout many other religions than Catholicism, it's just that many people do not study various religions and world cultures enough to understand the view of her in other religions and cultures. However you refer to Mary, hopefully she brings you peace and happiness. Arguing defeats her presence and message to the world.
@HealingPortalTV First things first. I have studied other religons but the only religon I know to be true is the the Christian view, NOT Cathoicism, because, how in the world do a Catholic get their views about Mary being the Queen of Heaven... The Holy speaks solidly about Yeshua bbeing the SON of GOD, of GOD being GOD, there are no hidden secretes in those to stated facts about the Scriptures. Now, we no doubtly have to read between the lines to see Mary as mother of GOD, as Queen of Heaven.
@HealingPortalTV Yes she was blessed among WOMEN, it doesn't say among gods and goddesses, it says she was blessed among WOMEN, she was highly favored by GOD, but it does not say she would be queen of heaven, nor does it say in Scripture, to pray to her. Jesus said that He was the light, that you have to go to HIM to get to the father. Her never once said got to my mother than I will in turn go to my Father, no, it does not say that. yet on the contrary, Jesus said, he is the door, there no
@HealingPortalTV other way. And again, in John 17 Jesus prays, after to His disciples; 1These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee:
2As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him.
3And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent
@HealingPortalTV 4I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do.
5And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.
6I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word.
7Now they have known that all things whatsoever thou hast given me are of thee.
@HealingPortalTV 8For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me. 9I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine.
@HealingPortalTV 10And all mine are thine, and thine are mine; and I am glorified in them. 11And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are
@HealingPortalTV 12While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled. 13And now come I to thee; and these things I speak in the world, that they might have my joy fulfilled in themselves.
14I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.
@HealingPortalTV 20Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;
21That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. 22And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:
@HealingPortalTV 23I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.
24Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world.
@HealingPortalTV 25 O righteous Father, the world hath not known thee: but I have known thee, and these have known that thou hast sent me. 26And I have declared unto them thy name, and will declare it: that the love wherewith thou hast loved me may be in them, and I in them.
Mary is a goddess, peacefull and mothering. While we are on this planet we don`t see the whole picture, humans take small parts of the spiritual whole and make them into religions based on a mad mix of something good from heaven, human littlemindednes and hate for ourselves. We don`t love ourselves, so we cant love anyone else. This is true for most humans. No-one can take ownership over Queen/Goddess Mary or over anyone else, Goddess or human.
@freedomlightchild We do not have any " goddesses" in the Catholic Church.You become a laughingstock, and it proves that your IQ level is not high and that you lack any theological knowledge. Virgin Mary never worshiped in the Catholic Church and no other saint either, but you can ask them for their prayers for us here on earth. We worship only God., If you listen to the Credo in unum Deum (the Nicene) "I believe in one God ...". Poor thing you are talking in the nightcap. Fool.
@Hypoxiaxxx But your the one thats misled, Jesus said there was ONLY ONE WAY TO THE FATHER AND THAT WAS THRU HIM. What you are doing is contradicting HIS word. Now, if you wanna do that, than you're the crazy one. Read the Scriptures and stop following the stupid traditions of men, because they can lead you astray. From the looks of it, they already have... Jesus is the ONLY ONE who can intercede for us, NOT MARY, NOT PETER, NOR JOHN, LUKE, or any one else, ONLY JESUS. Read your SCRIPTURES
@Hypoxiaxxx But your the one thats misled, Jesus siad there was ONLY ONE WAY TO THE FATHER AND THAT WAS THRU HIM. What you are doing is contradicting HIS word. Now, if you wanna do that, than you're the crazy one. Read the Scriptures and stop following the stupid traditions of men, because can lead you astray. From the looks of it, they already have... Jesus is the ONLY ONE who can intercede for us, NOT MARY, NOT PETER, NOR JOHN, LUKE, or any one else, ONLY JESUS. Read your SCRIPTURES
@willy92507 Read the Scriptures yourself. I imagine that you are a Protestant who hasn't yet read the letters in the New Testament. If you had, then you would see that it clearly reads "Do not merely listen to the word, and so deceive ourselves. Do what it says."-James 1:22 And later it says "What good is it, my brothers, if a man claims to have faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save him?...Faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead."-James 2:14,17
@jeffreywish But she is NOT a " Goddess"!!!!!!!!!!!!! There is only ONE God. We DO NOT HAVE ANY GODDESSES IN THE CATHOLIC FAITH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! She is the mother of Jesus and a saint, nothing else! Dont tell me how and in what we Catholichs believe in!
@jeffreywish You chose your words when you write to me, otherwise I will report you and a notification will be made and I will start a legal process. Please respect peopels opinions, and as I said, chose your words.
@jeffreywish " @Hypoxiaxxx i'm not talking about catholics you idiot just because you catholics have little respect for mary doesnt mean everyone else does there are people who see her as a goddess and idk what you catholics beleive in because there so much dogma in your religion " I´m telling you, chose your words otherwise a notification will be made and I will start a legal process. You dont call peopel " idiots". Sure you have the freedom to speach but NOToffend people and call them idiots.
@jeffreywish I will now report you. Dont think that you cant act how you want here on Youtube and call people what ever you want. I wont write you any more, but as I said, a report will be made.
@Hypoxiaxxx Well, we do pray to her, and attribute miracles (see when the old pope was shot and survived) to most faiths that's the definition of a god.
Since all these cultures have these stories in common, I think, the Mother and Child represent Mother Earth and Humanity. But things got distorted as time went on.
JorEl7771 2 months ago
20.4 Tu ne te feras point d'image taillée, ni de représentation quelconque des choses qui sont en haut dans les cieux, qui sont en bas sur la terre, et qui sont dans les eaux plus bas que la terre.
20.5 Tu ne te prosterneras point devant elles, et tu ne les serviras point; car moi, l'Éternel, ton Dieu, je suis un Dieu jaloux, qui punis l'iniquité des pères sur les enfants jusqu'à la troisième et la quatrième génération de ceux qui me haïssent,
20.6 Exode 20
8sacramento8 3 months ago
Pra quem adora confundir Personagens cristãs com Divindades pagãs, isso aí é um excelente exemplo de mistureba que EU não curto...
Apesar disso, adoro ouvir a musiquinha do filme das freiras doidas com a Woopi Goldberg! kkkkkk
Anitsilemos 6 months ago
now souls ,are taken under earth .please request you to request make bring back all the souls ,every molecules to earth .and make good dissison to save every one . request to give death panality for me,mother ,and father ,and even to my two brothers,and one sister to soul ,grand soul ,kundaliy , by giving or injecting poision ( which science & scientits can produce ) and ( shown in the "dasavataram "tamil & hindi india movie )burn infront of everyone on the earth only .
bgupta2001 6 months ago
Some people are so easily offended. I think this is absolutely wonderful. (the video I mean. The fact that people are easily offended is at best, amusing)
Forestimp45 7 months ago 2
IM NOT A CHRISTIAN OR CATHOLIC, BUT I DO BELIEVE IN MOTHER GOD.!
ME LIKES THIS SONG...!!!
statikvision21 7 months ago 2
@statikvision21 helo statikvision. i to beleive in mother god. or god the mother, which is our beloved mother mary
apostoldanreve 7 months ago
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Mother of God IS NOT a Goddess !
There is only one God in Three Persons: God The Father, God The Son, and God The Holy Spirit.
Why does this videoclip display pagan goddesses?
temp911Luke 7 months ago
Startling responses: A woman who answers my needs. A woman who is a generalized and whose personality is taken way.
Mother of Jesus, Mother of God, is the only response that really works.
A real woman, born in time and place, who consented to be the Mother of God. Why has the Church depended on her for her existence?
I can only go to Mass and pray the "Hail Mary". Nothing else will really work.
sheshegwaning 7 months ago
stupid commericals
Myknifeismyhero666 10 months ago
One image that shows up at 1:49 is NOT a depiction of the Blessed Virgin Mary. It looks to be a statue of the first US citizen who was canonized -- Mother Francis Cabrini, who was born in Italy, came to the US to do missionary work among the poor, and became a naturalized American citizen. Just because it has a veil and a long tunic/dress doesn't mean it's necessarily the BVM.
BlueIslandGirl 10 months ago
@thecommentmonster Well, that depends what branch of catholicism you adhere too... it is not offensive to me, neither for most people in Mexico. We know the difference of course, of God's Mother and Mother Goddess... but both make sence, because all of our religious history, theology, lithurgy etc... The apparent contradictions are all faded in our sacred text, the Nican Mopohua,of Our Most Beloved Mother, Totlazohnanztin Mariam Cuatlaxopeuhtzin, Tonantzin Sta. Maria Guadalupe.
Quetzalcuetlachtli 11 months ago
@Quetzalcuetlachtli AsI said... Wojtila had no apparent problem with our faith, as he understood we are descendants of great cultures, an originary civilization, with own Theological and cosmological principles... As long as we understand THE CHRIST, The Life, The Love... we did it..long, long ago...form our religions.
Please, try to understand; not just judge and fight. Any question, I am open to answer it, ifasked politely.
Why somuch fighting? even my iranian shia friends understood our faith
Quetzalcuetlachtli 11 months ago
Independent of her role in roman, greek, or native churches, Mary representss indeed the cosmic archetype of the Great Mother (as It is understood here), but not just the archetype of the Lady of the Worlds, The Source of everything, but also Mariam, María, Madre de Cristo. Mariam, the most lovable, most loable, the mirror of wisdom, the throne of wisdom, the pillar, the spiritual vessel, mercy and compasion, the heart Itself.
As Jesus is Life and creation, He is with Mary. Co-redemptress.
Quetzalcuetlachtli 11 months ago
There is one God... the sages gives God many names, God manifests in multiple facets and shapes... God is not tied to anything, anything... Huh... people continue fighting... it is senseless... If ypu've study theology and religions and if you have a natural charisma and revelations, you'll realize this... But oh well... many seem to don't understand this... wanna fight, wanna fight.
Quetzalcuetlachtli 11 months ago
This is very beautiful (although the Sister Act song made me LOL.)
unicorn4031 11 months ago
Im a devout Catholic and Mary is not a Goddess. The word simply implies paganism. There is only ONE GOD. You are a bit confused about her.
blackpooliris 11 months ago
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FUCK CHRIST!!!!!!!!!!!
lossofthoughts6 11 months ago
and dont pay attention to all misstypings or general errors. English is not my mother tongue, and I am trying to express as spontaneously and fluidly as I can... even in Spanish or Nahuatl I would commyt typos...
Thanks, and Blessings for all those with Good heart and a Great Will.
¡TOnanixpan!
¡Hosanna!
Quetzalcuetlachtli 11 months ago
Johannes Paulus even apologized for the horrible acts perpetrated by the heads and by some very important people of the "holy roman church". That is something major... admitt the vileness and rotting of the great Leviatan... Laudable, venerable. He was a great wise man, that is why we love him so much in Mexico and he loved so much Mexico. Contradictions? yes, to many.. as with ALL history... but such is life, such is history, that is the way the becoming and history of humankind is formed.
Quetzalcuetlachtli 11 months ago
with our faith, as you can see joy joyful and happy he is when traditional sorceresses and healers blow and clenases him with saint copal and perform a traditional healing and protective ceremony. I asure you the women were not roman catholics, indeed members of native church, the milenary faith of our ancestors, from which Christ has been accepted and loved and his message, Life an Love theirselves incorporated, without Christ having a problem.
Wojtyła was happy, joyful he giveth blessings.
Quetzalcuetlachtli 11 months ago
Way to stick to your guns girl. LOL
Cjaz84 11 months ago
Mary is venerated in the Catholic Church, she isn't worshipped. It is through her intercession and her love for us that we pray to her for God's mercy and love. The best way i can think of describing it is as a child would go to their mother if they wanted something, and then the mom would talk with the father about it. That isn't worshipping, that is asking for her intercession. The fact that mary is actually worshipped in some countries has to do with older practices which include a mother god
magdalengal 11 months ago
referring to Our Blessed Mother you wrote: "...shes is indeed worshipped, at least is some parts like Mexico, Guatemala, Perú, etc. That is beacause althought we are catholic, its not the same as roman catholicism. Here María Tonantzin is equated with Jesus, and even more present"
If this is fact.... it is heresy which is adherence to a religious opinion contrary to church dogma. Thus we should DIS-courage not IN-courage this belief.
libsemik 1 year ago
@libsemik discourage it if you want. I respect true roman catholics that live their lives with virtue; but let me tell you something. Roman Imperial Catholicism is decreasing and weakining; meanwhile native churces and faiths (even as diferent religions but who live and comprehend the Love of Christ) are very alive, healthy and in continuous developmente, theologically, socially and religiously speaking. You should RESPECT. Even beloved Juan Pablo II, Wojtyła, had no problem.
Quetzalcuetlachtli 11 months ago
@Quetzalcuetlachtli I dont even know what "Roman Imperial Catholicism" means...? But I can assure you that NO Pope of the Latin Rite has ever promoted or approved worship of anyone or anything over the Worship of The Most Blessed Trinity...regarding your comment "diferent religions..." there is only One True Church to think otherwise is to accuse Our Blessed Lord of Spiritual adultery...as we say in our Creed ...One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church...regardless of how small it becomes
libsemik 11 months ago
ok then... it is so difficult to argue with someone that is so attached to a particular institutional dogma and with already a very rigid thought and cognition structures...
no problem. the church is the people of the Christ, the people of the Christ are many, the are only one church, and for that matter, neither me nor you are mistaken...
I do not to argue more, i'm tired. I know what i Know and said what i've got to said. I'm not lying as with pope Wojtłiwa. He supported natiie churches.
Quetzalcuetlachtli 11 months ago
@Quetzalcuetlachtli As stated to his letters to the diocese of San Cristobal de las Casas, Chiapas, Mexico. And his love and attitude toward Mexico. The video I am telling you of the riatul blessing and healing by the sorceresses and traditional medics is in the video of his last visit to Mexico, at the Holy Shrine of Tepeyacac de Ntra. Señora Tonantzin Guadalupe.
Of course he may not approved many practices or statements, at list publicly, but please, he was the head of Roma. we dont trust roma
Quetzalcuetlachtli 11 months ago
@Quetzalcuetlachtli but Papa Juan Pablo II was someone special, very very special, endowed with real charisma and the love and grace of christ sprouting form all his Self; I dont care if he was the Head of Roma, the Imperium, born from the rotten entrails of Rome, and onw of the great monopolizers of a faith that should never been institutionalized. ¿you dont remember all the atrocities commited to my people and many people in name of crist?... holy cra... tremendous sins.
J.Pablo was diffferent
Quetzalcuetlachtli 11 months ago
@libsemik I Dissolve in Order to Evolve Commanding Fearlessness,
Hail Salvia Bringer of the True Fire,
I Seal the Matrix of Death with the Cosmic Tone of Liberation,
Hail Ayahuasca my Mother,my Lover and my Friend,
I am Guided by Endlessness,
Hail Ayahuasca my Guide into Infinity,
Hail Ayahuasca my Companion for Eterity,
,
1952YOU1320TUBE1952 11 months ago
You can read the Nican Mopohua (Here it is refered), translated from náhuatl. The most antique document that testifies the apparition of our beloved Tonantzin María Cuatlaxupeh (Guadalupe), at th old sanctuary of the Mother Goddess in Tepeyacac. A sacred text that explains and sustains the syncretic new faith. You can seehow she presents as Tonantzin, as well as Mariam. Mother of Ipalnemohuani (Giver of Life) and Tloke Nauake (Owner of closeness and the along), all prehispanic titles.
Blessings
Quetzalcuetlachtli 1 year ago
Salve Regina DOES NOT MEAN "Mother Goddess" it means "Hail Holy Queen". Your description implies that we "WORSHIP" Our Blessed Mother...we DO NOT!
God Alone do we worship...we venerate His Blessed Mother...please consider changing your description. +JMJ
libsemik 1 year ago
@libsemik I agree with you, that is what it means. In oethodox catholicism Our Blessed Mother is, at least officially venerated, as the Saints, not worshipped. And I agree in changing description, but the reality is that, shes is indeed worshipped, at least is some parts like Mexico, Guatemala, Perú, etc. That is beacause althought we are catholic, its not the same as roman catholicism. Here María Tonantzin is equated with Jesus, and even more present,
Quetzalcuetlachtli 1 year ago
@Quetzalcuetlachtli because there is a continuity of our antique religions -not in all people, but in many-; Christ and christianity is indeed here refunctionalized and resymbolized from the old faiths, and because the Great Mother, or feminine aspect of God is and has been for millenia so important, that's why Mary here is a complex Divinity that encompasses of course Holy Mary, as well as God Mother,
Quetzalcuetlachtli 1 year ago
@Quetzalcuetlachtli and even in the more orthodox cath churches you can see her holy image in the altar as central, even before that of Jesus. In the native churches this even more evident as she is directly praised and referred as Mother of the universe. We said Corazón de Jesús, Corazón de María unidos. As for us is one with the Christ and co-redemptress. I know the christian scriptures as our old word, and there is no contradiction. We feel and live the Love deeply. Not heresy, dif theology.
Quetzalcuetlachtli 1 year ago
why was my comment removed?
jeffreywish 1 year ago
I do no longer beg for respect, I DEMAND RESPECT FOR OUR SACRED FAITH. And you, everyone must respect every religion, as all are manifestations of God to mankind.
¡Ma TiCencuiltonayan, Totlazohnantzin Malinaltzin! ¡Tonanixpan! ¡Totahixpan! ¡Hosanna!
Quetzalcuetlachtli 1 year ago
@Quetzalcuetlachtli You are wrong. I've said my piece.
MonaghanMan3000 1 year ago
@MonaghanMan3000 Only God knows who's wrong who's correct.
And, brother, you don't have to negate your own faith and religious convictions by at least trying to comprehend other theologies, other cultures. A I've told, I am not into anything new age mine is a living faith shared by millions, so if by mere curiosity you want to have a glitch. I told you this because you are respectable in the sense that, as me, you know and defend yer faith, and that is laudable, in despite yer agressiveattitude
Quetzalcuetlachtli 1 year ago
This is an antique hymn almost entirely in nahuatl dedicated to Our Holy Venerated Mother, chanted at peregrinations and at Holly Tepeyacac. ¡Ay Tonantzintli tlauel in yehyectzin Moixpantzin! ¡Ay madrecita, qué preciosa joya eres! María linda.
Worth to listen, really beautiful.
Just want to show to the world that we are not "evil heretics who will be cast into hell".
Our faith is unique and must be respected as every religion.
Quetzalcuetlachtli 1 year ago
@Quetzalcuetlachtli Forgive, this is the adress: watch?v=MNvbxpXcvAA&feature=related.
And as a fact, I adhere to the Traditional Mexican Catholic Church, but I dont have a problem to participate in other ntive chrches and rites, indeed is a joy.
There are many diff. native churches and religions as there are cultures and languages in México. But the one, the only that link and knit together all of us 400 peoples is MARÍA TONANTZIN GUADALUPE, one with CHRIST.
First understand, then criticize.
Quetzalcuetlachtli 1 year ago
This is the same hymn in perfect contemporary central nahuatl and shows beautiful images of our religion in its many dif. branches and native churches. All celebrating God Mother and God's Mother, many peoples with own precious lithurgies and traditions. That shows very much the ways and Glory of our religion in its many forms. We are Christians, but our tradition adheres much more to the Mother, since antiquity, but finally one God, recognized since prehispanic times.
watch?v=8RXY7WneA6w
Quetzalcuetlachtli 1 year ago
This one is from the Holy Mass of december 10 celebrated at the Seminary Cristo Rey y Santa María de Guadalupe (Traditional Mexican Catholic Church) in the vespers of the celebration of Our Beloved Lady Tonantzintli Coatlaxopeuhtzin, María Guadalupe. With the beautiful Guadalupan hymn sang both in náhuatl and spanish:
watch?v=bRk1WBhJAi4
Quetzalcuetlachtli 1 year ago
I'm telling you a fact. Your historical reconstructionism, spiritual revisionism, and new age nonsense doesn't mean anything. Just know that if you ever were a Catholic, the state of your soul is as I have stated according to the Church. That is a kind warning to you.
MonaghanMan3000 1 year ago
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Quetzalcuetlachtli 1 year ago
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Quetzalcuetlachtli 1 year ago
@MonaghanMan3000i I dont care if you live happily and with virtue yer faith; better, I am happy with that. If you are so attachd to roman-judaic dogma it is ok; but please, stop imposing on people faith and religions... Maybe you think we need another satanic "saint" inquisition to torture and shed blood in the name of God... I dont care. Peace be upon you and yer family; again, may God Bless you, brother.
Fighting like this IS nonesense. Christ is Life. I've said what I have got to said.
Paz
Quetzalcuetlachtli 1 year ago
@MonaghanMan3000 No historical reconstructionism, nor spiritual revisionism, no "new age". I born and grow in this faith. NO new age; I just follow the old traditions of my family, my people, my country, and what I want to do is to try to explain this to whomever don't understands, I'm just tired of fanatical dogmatic roman catholic people attacking what is most sacred for us. I try to explain with History, Theology, Anthropology.. not reconstruct or invent anything.
Quetzalcuetlachtli 1 year ago
We have our own Lithurgies, doctrines, traditions and interpretation of the Bible and Gospels, our Lithurgies are based on the Word of Christ, but also in our own antique docrines, prophets and wisdom. We are not romans, not europeans, not from everywhere but form Cemanahuac, this Holy Land.
We LIVE with passion and joy our religions. We live with Love, Joy, Bliss and Grace the Love of God.
I leave you here some examples of our lithurgy and traditions.
Quetzalcuetlachtli 1 year ago
Galatians is reserved about the teaching of the Jerusalem church and is hostile toward Judaizers who would impose Jewish distinctives, codified in the Mosaic Law, on Gentile converts. Many testimonies are that Paul did not rejected other religions, diverse manifestations of God or religious practices, as long as they do not contradict the ten commandments, the most important for him was to bring the Heart of CHRIST to the hearts people, the Water of Life. Thats Grace, not dogma, nor institutions
Quetzalcuetlachtli 1 year ago
Yes, I am an anathema, but in the original greek meaning of the word, Ανάθεμα: Offering.
I am an offering to God, as all mankind is meant to be. God is praised by all which exists, by the entire universe. Actions or thoughts of men are those which may do the contrary... Because we are image and resemblance of God, we have free will, to create, to destruct, to love, or to kill.. and of course, we will be (and are, at all time) measured by our actions and choices.
Quetzalcuetlachtli 1 year ago
@Quetzalcuetlachtli Ppl from all religions and branches of religions call each other heretic, apostate, "enemy"... How much blood've been shed on the name of Christ, God, Allah, etc... Essence of religions must be Yocoxcayotl, Salam, Shalom, Peace, Life, the Christ. Jesus is LEV is THE HEART, He is Emmanuel, God with us. You really think He wants people to shed blood, or spread hate on His Name, oh brother?..
Quetzalcuetlachtli 1 year ago
@Quetzalcuetlachtli "For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him". John 3:17.
The catholic church of Christ is not the Roman Catholic church (founded centuries later as an institution), it IS indeed the people, the people of The Christ. Jesus did not wanted institutions. Jesus did not wanted Judaic Patriarcal dogma to be abided and practiced by ALL mankind.
Moses brought universal law to mankind, Jesus the Grace, the Glory, the Love.
Quetzalcuetlachtli 1 year ago
@Quetzalcuetlachtli Through Mariam, Tonantzintli.
Hey, Coptic, Assyrian-aramaic churches, Ethiope church, and the church founded in persian territories by Levai Yudai Thadai, Snt. Jude Thadaeus, have more antiquity, some by centuries to what is the constituted Roman Catholic church.
The real pauline doctrine, also called pagan christianity, claims that Paul transmuted Jesus the Jewish Messiah into the universal (in a wider meaning "catholic") Saviour.
Quetzalcuetlachtli 1 year ago
@Quetzalcuetlachtli
Pauline Christianity is the development of thinking about Jesus in a multireligious-multicultural missionary context; James decreed that Christ was for the Gentiles and not just for the Jews.
Christians themselves disagree as to how far there was tension between Paul and the Jerusalem Church. One difficulty is the tension between Acts and Paul's letters; another is the disparity between his views in different letters.
Quetzalcuetlachtli 1 year ago
@Quetzalcuetlachtli Anathema means ONLY "without breath." As in being without the Holy Spirit. I am not aggressive, I am matter of fact. You are a heretic, seeking to deceive as many people as possible. "I" don't cast you anywhere. "I" don't excommunicate you. You have done that yourself. Perhaps, you should look into the subject of excommunication. It is a serious matter, and you should take it seriously. I am making you aware of the state of your soul according to the Catholic Church. Later.
MonaghanMan3000 1 year ago
Jesus abolishes judaic dogma, but many dont understand, dont understand, even those who read and study scriptures. Blinded by dogma.
That's all.
Blessing of Giver of Life for everyone. God Mother, God Father. Hossana! ¡Mixpantzincopa Mohmoztla!
Quetzalcuetlachtli 1 year ago
Many dont understand many things... blinded by dogma. I am not in anywaw "new age" I am a mexican catholic, who have and love bothe the word and legacy of Bible as that of our sacred word, books, tradition, and appreciate wisdom of all religions, as there is only One Principle, with many faces, manifested culturally to all mankind. I've grown like that. Im not heretical, even less, silly or "demon inpired".
¡Hosanna, Xesú, Hosanna!
¡Mixpantzinco Tonantzin, Tonanixpan Guadalupita!
Blessings
Quetzalcuetlachtli 1 year ago
@Quetzalcuetlachtli And even I respect and revere all virtuous religious traditions, I cling, I take refuge in my tradition. Catholic Paganic Mexican. Haaah... Pagan is a generic Im not pagan, but as I better laugh. Maybe some fundamentalist roman catholics or protestants or whatever sect would be scandalized and angry by this affirmation. But it is lack of understandement and lack of will to undertand. Just that.
Rmmber, catholic=universal, as preached by Paul; apostole of the gentiles.
Quetzalcuetlachtli 1 year ago
@Quetzalcuetlachtli As for everything else you have said, you are completely wrong. Your Marian theology is completely defunct and unexampled anywhere else in the world outside of your own head. You've propounded heresy after heresy, here. I could write a whole book refuting you, but the Bible and the Catechism both do that already. If you think you are a Catholic, you need to go share these opinions of yours with a priest so that he can set you straight before you heap up damnation on yourself.
MonaghanMan3000 1 year ago
@MonaghanMan3000 I share my opinions. We have our churches, indigenous churches and the Mexican Catholic Church (not roman; romans were decadent barbarians who used christianity as a political tool). write yer book and send it if ye want. I and we are happy with our religion my brother, it does not "exists just in my head" is a cultural thing, and we are not going to damnation. God stablishes different modes of relationships with many diff peop. It's cultural.
God Loves us, and I am sure of that
Quetzalcuetlachtli 1 year ago
@MonaghanMan3000 May Giver Of Life, Ipalnemohuani, Tonacatecuhtli, Tonanixpan, may Yehoshúa and mariam bLess you.
May God Blessses you and yer family brotha,
O Dios Mkunu'xënëp.
Dios te bendiga, Hermano.
Quetzalcuetlachtli 1 year ago
@Quetzalcuetlachtli Heretics don't have the right or the power to bless anyone. Blessing is a good and all Good comes down from the Father of Lights. You serve a false God. You are anathema. If you were once a Roman Catholic, you have excommunicated yourself from the Holy Church, are numbered along with Satan and the fallen angels, and the reprobate spirits of the damned. You are cast into outer darkness, where there is wailing and gnashing of teeth.
MonaghanMan3000 1 year ago
@MonaghanMan3000 Please, for the matter, NO ONE has the POWER to BLESS, but GOD. It is God that gives the grace, to manifest in words of man, from the wish of its soul, which is but a manifestation of its spirit, which is the Spirit of God. When we bless we ask, we wish, we want the love of God to be sent. We say 'may' God Bless you, not 'I bless you". For that matter exists th formula I bless you in the Name of God, but that is reserved, for the most wise, for the pure, not for everyone.
Quetzalcuetlachtli 1 year ago
@MonaghanMan3000 You are very agressive, casting me to the Gehenna and darkness. You are not just condemning me, but entire peoples, peoples which are people of God. That's serious, man.
I sense more evil, more poison in yer words indeed; even if said with the conviction of doing good, of defending an interpretation and dogma what you think is the unique truth. Ye are spreading hate, even if you do not agree with a theology or lithurgy, there are indeed christian ways to debate, brother.
Quetzalcuetlachtli 1 year ago
@Quetzalcuetlachtli You wander throughout the earth seeking to confuse good with evil and evil with good, seeking the ruin of souls. Being deceived you seek to deceive. A vain thinker, you have abandoned the sacred teaching of the Apostles, the friends of Christ and shepherds of all the flock of those who worship the True God, with true intent, and true doctrine. Knowing the truth you betrayed it, and your sins are far more grave than if done in ignorance. Repent, quickly.
MonaghanMan3000 1 year ago
The poster of this video is a "New Age" nut-job spiritualist. He's probably demon possessed from playing with reiki or some other occult garbage. Shame on you!
MonaghanMan3000 1 year ago
Mother Goddess??? Is this some kind of fundamentalist smear/ sabotage of Catholicism. Quit defaming the Mother of Christ. Change the title or take this video down and quit being a heretic. Seriously, what are you thinking. Do you realize this is idolatry? That this is a completely anathemized heresy?? That this is scandal? Take this down, go to confession and repent. You should really talk to a priest and read the document Lumin Gentium 60-80. This isn't ok. This isn't a joke.
MonaghanMan3000 1 year ago
@MonaghanMan3000 You are part of the wholly institutional view of things. Study the most deep symbols in chrystianity. Mariam is the Mother of her Father and the Daughter of her son. She is the Heart Herself, She Is with the Christ, She is Throne of Wisdom, Spiritual Vessel, Vessel of Life, Health of the Sick, Pillar of Wisdom, Pillar of King David, Door of Heaven, House of Gold... She is ascended by God...
Quetzalcuetlachtli 1 year ago
@Quetzalcuetlachtli ¿Who is that woman who rises atop Her Beloved, in the middle of the desert, such as column of incense and myrrh?...
¿have you prayed a rosary? ¿do you know Marianic lethanies?... Mariam is God Mother, a Lovely and salvific advocation of the Great Mother. The source of eveything.
God is not just Father, is Father and Mother.
And Jesus I doubt would be against this considerations. He came not to judge, but to bring peace and salvation. He is Life, Life is the Mother and Father
Quetzalcuetlachtli 1 year ago
@Quetzalcuetlachtli No. Mary is the mother of her Son and God, Jesus Christ. If you knew what you were talking about you would know that Christ is the brother of the believer and the first person of the Trinity is the Father of the believer. You're in open heresy. I am part of the institutional view of things, you're right. I am part of the institute which Christ instituted Himself in 33 A.D. the Catholic Church. I hold the opinion of the Apostolic See; we hold the true faith. You are wrong.
MonaghanMan3000 1 year ago
@MonaghanMan3000 Hold yer interpretation as you wish and understand brother... just don't fight... we praise one God, One Cause, One giver Of Life... even if distinctly in shape.
Quetzalcuetlachtli 1 year ago
please change the Title "Mother Goddess" is both idolatary, heresy and misleading. Never has our magesterial authority ever refered or taught her to be a "Goddess." calling her such is blasphamy!
dcrippen2000 1 year ago
the catholic church stoled from the pagans and i see they are still doing it to call mary a goddess is laughable
80fann 1 year ago
@80fann were calling her a goddess now cos her cause is good even if her main worshippers are the catholics. THE Goddess is a universal archetype, shes ANY pure good female power, that includes mary.
hope i helped clear some air.
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ravenstar100 1 year ago
Will never be able to fully enjoy a video b/c it all comes down to religion. Why can you religious people just accept that we are all just different and have different views. Do you not want to live in peace? Do you want to have enemies and haters? Do you want to live a life of hatred and disrespect for you fellow humans. Take a good look around you, We are ALL different and we all live on a place called earth. Obviously if we were suppose to be the same then we would be by now. Get over it.
luvbites23 1 year ago
lmao! this is the version from sister act. hahahaha
eipirani 1 year ago
@eipirani you are idiot. Did you do a research before you gave comment like that? The song in Sister Act is I Follow Him and this song (Salve Regina) is totally different. I Follow Him is just about a few years. Meanwhile Salve Regina is about several centuries. Shut your mouth up if you don't know.
landuongnov30 1 year ago
@landuongnov30 no im pretty much sure its the same... get a grip. getting bent because you're a little psychotic. relax.
eipirani 1 year ago
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@eipirani you are idiot. Did you do a research before you gave comment like that? The song in Sister Act is I Follow Him and this song (Regina) is totally different. I Follow Him is just about a few years. Meanwhile Salve Regina is about several ceSalve nturies. Shut your mouth up if you don't know.
landuongnov30 1 year ago
hail rhiannon goddess of the moon, mother to her son and daughter, consort to her love
AlmostCanid 1 year ago
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hossein582 1 year ago
Mary is not a goddess. She is the mother of God, but she is not to be worshipped.
She deserves respect and reverence, just as the Saints do, and we may pray to her and ask her intercession. But there is only room for three in the Trinity.
Please change the name of the video. That's mainly why we Catholics are called idolaters, because they think we worship Mary.
vivalatod89 1 year ago
@willy92507
Come on, really, please dont say that we are not "true Christians", it is EXTREMELY unchristian of you. You have no right to say that we do not study scriptures as well and correctly as you do.
As for Tradition I offer you this passage.
So then, brothers, stand firm and hold to the teachings we passed on to you, whether by word of mouth or by letter. 2Thessalonians 2:15
And for prayers for the dead I suggest you search the second book of Maccabees.
178Lawrence 1 year ago
Mary is not a Goddess. She herself is merely human. It is the Son that she bore whom is the Deity, Jesus.
dragongirl4 1 year ago
@willy92507 And yet again when it states"Show me your faith without deeds and I will show you mt faith by what I do. You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that."James 2:18 This sounds a lot like the argument between Catholics and Protestants (not Christians because Catholics are Christian as well as we believe in Christ). If Protestants read this verse, then they would realize that sola fide (only faith)means nothing and that works 9 as Protestants call them)areneeded.
Archangel777Catholic 1 year ago
@Archangel777Catholic OKAYYY, but you are still missing the point, and NO, I am not protesrant, I am Christian, and any Christian who is a real Christian knows that, you are to go to the Father through Jesus. By the way, I believe faith without works IS DEAD, just as much I believe that Jesus said, "NO ONE CAN COME TO THE FATHER BUT BY ME..." Bro, you need to read your Scriptures a little harder
willy92507 1 year ago
@willy92507 If you are a Christian but not a Catholic, you are a Protestant. That is a fact regardless of what you think, your religion's founder protested against another Christian religion (probably Catholicism) and made another. And "bro", I have read them. Yes, no one can go to the Father except through faith in Jesus. However, you missed the part where one needs to act upon said beliefs. Believing is not enough to get you into heaven. Sorry, "bro".
Archangel777Catholic 1 year ago
@Archangel777Catholic Acts, meaning the laying down of your life, not giving into the lust of our eyes and flesh, to be ready and willing to do the will of the Father rather in or out of season, and that is what i do, bro. And if i didn't really think you were a Christian, why would i be calling you bro, I've called you bro a couple times already??? Im sorry if you're a sis, its always wrong to assume, but i did call you bro...But, all I'm trying to say is that we as a peopl;e of GOD should
willy92507 1 year ago
@Archangel777Catholic be going through Christ to get to the Father, He is the ONLY WAY, NONE OTHER. Scriptures definately say that... And i do do works, so please don't lie and tell me i don't, because your wrong...You're only saying that, because I'm telling you what the Scriptures say, there is NO WAY AROUND JESUS TO THE FATHER.P.E.R.I.O.D... And yes, works without faith is dead, but what does that have to do with praying to Mary, John, Peter, Pope, Luke, Thomas, Mathew, all of thwe above have
willy92507 1 year ago
@willy92507 Catholics absolutely do NOT, I repeat, NOT pray to the saints. We ask them to pray for us. If you were to present a king a pig that has been recently hunted down by you, would you give it directly to him, or would you first give it to his wife, who knows how he likes it? So too with prayer. Do not the saints (who are in heaven) know exactly what kind of prayers God desires from us? So, Catholics put "pray FOR us" in all prayers THROUGH the saints.
Archangel777Catholic 1 year ago 2
@Archangel777Catholic
Amen. If a loved one were very sick, wouldn't you ask your friends to pray to the Almighty Father for that person? It is no different with Mary and the Saints.
vivalatod89 1 year ago
@vivalatod89 Finally, someone with common sense, we need more people like you in the world.
Archangel777Catholic 1 year ago
@Archangel777Catholic become idols, ALL. Why on earth would Jesus,empty Himself of His Heavenly authority, become flesh, and dwell among us, obey the Father, suffering temptation in the flesh. Be led to a cross willing obeying the Father never opening His mouth to sin by uttering obsenities, NEVER. He was led to the slaughter, He died after hanging on that tree like a piece of meat, because He was marred more than any man, He died as cursed man, was buried, and the Father rose Him on the 3rd
willy92507 1 year ago
@Archangel777Catholic day, He sprinkled His blood on the alter of Heaven, there GOD gave Him a name HIGHER THEN ANY NAME, IN HEAVEN, ON EARTH, AND UNDER THE EARTH, that ONLY at HIS NAME, EVERY KNEE WILL BOW... ARE you getting that. Not at His mothers name, or His followers names, but at HIS NAME every knee will bow.... I don't think you still get that...
willy92507 1 year ago
@willy92507 Because why on earth would He go through all of that; for us, who have been saved by that grace alone? Why, why would we spit in His face by neglected such a profound salvation for another doctrine??? That makes absolutely NO SENSE.....
willy92507 1 year ago
@willy92507 Catholics appeal to the blessed virgin to pray FOR us... it is equivalent to you asking your friends to pray for you only she is the mother of Jesus. As we know from the miracle at Cana our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ dearly loves his mother Mary and performed miracles simply because she asked him to. We believe that if Mary asks Christ on our behalf that perhaps we too may receive His blessings and miracles. As to saints, they are formally recognized
omGOP3 1 year ago
@omGOP3 To the first part of your sermon, where does it say this in the Scriptures, where does it give you or I the right to pray to another person, who who wrote that and what Scripture does that comes from??? As to the second, no one perfect NO, NOT ONE, the only one Scripture tell us to go to is JESUS. . Brother, you do err in this, why else would there be such a profound salvation, for you to spit in our Saviour face.Jesus is the only one who bears this task, He sits at the right hand of
willy92507 1 year ago
@willy92507 Actually, Mary was perfect and conceived without sin. How else would God have accepted her, body and soul directly into heaven per the Blessed Assumption?
Archangel777Catholic 1 year ago
@Archangel777Catholic --- Furthermore ---- [about Mary w/out sin] she continued to be sinless throughout here life until her assumption. Because your "body is a temple" would God really have excepted anyone less than perfect to bring His only son, our Lord and Saviour into this bleak and sinning world?
omGOP3 1 year ago
@Archangel777Catholic LOL,
willy92507 1 year ago
@Archangel777Catholic LOL. Ok, so do you ask your dead relatives to pray for you???
willy92507 1 year ago
@willy92507 Most assuredly. I have also asked them to pray for you.
Archangel777Catholic 1 year ago
@Archangel777Catholic Please don't, Jesus, who sits at the right hand of the Father, He is the ONE who intercedes for me, I will pray to Him for you... As a matter of fact, I will ask ALL my brothers, sisters, mothers, All who are in the faith of Christ,, to pray that the spiritual eyes be opened, that your ears will hear what His Spirit is saying to you this day...That He cause you to see that it is religon that puts a wall between you and El Elyon, to have a relationship with God is better
willy92507 1 year ago
@willy92507 Too late. I already did. I will be sure to ask my youth group which contains about forty people to pray for you and others like you that they may have the grace to learn the truth that is inherent in Catholicism. I hope that the Holy Spirit will shower its blessings upon you and all of your brothers, sisters, and mother to accept the doctrine of the Most Blessed Catholic Church. Have a nice Advent.
Archangel777Catholic 1 year ago
@Archangel777Catholic Well we already pray against necromance, you ever heard of Samhain? Thats right, traditions of men.... Acknowledge your dead, commune with them, huh/ What did Jesus say to the one who said he needed to take care of his dead?
willy92507 1 year ago
@willy92507Remember Maccabees, when it specifically tells to pray for the dead and inquire of their help?Or I suppose you took that book out of the Bible because you didn't like it?Typical Protestant tactic: if we can't support it or if it contradicts our easy way into heaven take it out and make it Apocryphal.Remember Revelations?Whoever takes out of the Bible will have their share of heaven taken away?Hence Catholicism is the way to heaven.Therefore pray through others.Therefore you are wrong.
Archangel777Catholic 1 year ago
@Archangel777Catholic I didn't take anything out, I only know what JESUS said, , when the spoke about his dead
willy92507 1 year ago
@Archangel777Catholic whoa man. don't insult the protestants. I am a Catholic and I was persecuted every day for three years by a school that did not respect me because of my religion. they may have been protestant but they were only a small group of people. by persecuting them so thoughtlessly as you did makes you no better than those who prosecuted me. I am Catholic and that is why I will speak out against this and defend my fellow family in Christ, no matter what their creed.
FlamingRose11 1 year ago
@Archangel777Catholic You are to glorify THE FATHER in Heaven, bro, the only way to do that is to glorify His SON, Scriptures definately say that, yet you turn from that, because you rather please man, follow their traditions, but i, no, I live and long to please God, because I want to be near to Him, to serve Him with an honest heart, to give Him all I can, and I try to do that the best I can , by the way the Scripture says, "To love the LORD my GOD with all my heart soul, and stregth, and to
willy92507 1 year ago
@Archangel777Catholic love my neighbor as myself." Believe, I really am convicted to say these things because they are pressed on my heart to say, but I do no say these because I seek to hurt or to fight anyone on here. I say them with conviction, because I believe I am led to. Bro, you can heed and take these words or leave them, I'm just doing what I'm convicted of doing. By the way, you don't need to pray to others but Jesus. I leave you with this. Why on earth would you have to pray to
willy92507 1 year ago
@Archangel777Catholic anyone eslse other than He, Jesus, who prayed this prayer; Hebrews chapter 1:
“Father, the hour has come. Glorify your Son, that your Son may glorify you. 2 For you granted him authority over all people that he might give eternal life to all those you have given him. 3 Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent. 4 I have brought you glory on earth by finishing the work you gave me to do.
willy92507 1 year ago
@Archangel777Catholic 5 And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began. 6 “I have revealed you[a] to those whom you gave me out of the world. They were yours; you gave them to me and they have obeyed your word. 7 Now they know that everything you have given me comes from you. 8 For I gave them the words you gave me and they accepted them. They knew with certainty that I came from you, and they believed that you sent me.
willy92507 1 year ago
@Archangel777Catholic 9 I pray for them. I am not praying for the world, but for those you have given me, for they are yours. 10 All I have is yours, and all you have is mine. And glory has come to me through them. 11 I will remain in the world no longer, but they are still in the world, and I am coming to you. Holy Father, protect them by the power of[b] your name, the name you gave me, so that they may be one as we are one.
willy92507 1 year ago
@Archangel777Catholic 12 While I was with them, I protected them and kept them safe by[c] that name you gave me. None has been lost except the one doomed to destruction so that Scripture would be fulfilled. 13 “I am coming to you now, but I say these things while I am still in the world, so that they may have the full measure of my joy within them.
willy92507 1 year ago
@Archangel777Catholic 14 I have given them your word and the world has hated them, for they are not of the world any more than I am of the world. 15 My prayer is not that you take them out of the world but that you protect them from the evil one. 16 They are not of the world, even as I am not of it. 17 Sanctify them by[d] the truth; your word is truth. 18 As you sent me into the world, I have sent them into the world. 19 For them I sanctify myself, that they too may be truly sanctified.
willy92507 1 year ago
@Archangel777Catholic 20 “My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message, 21 that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me. 22 I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be one as we are one— 23 I in them and you in me—so that they may be brought to complete unity.
willy92507 1 year ago
@Archangel777Catholic Then the world will know that you sent me and have loved them even as you have loved me. 24 “Father, I want those you have given me to be with me where I am, and to see my glory, the glory you have given me because you loved me before the creation of the world. 25 “Righteous Father, though the world does not know you, I know you, and they know that you have sent me.
willy92507 1 year ago
@Archangel777Catholic 26 I have made you[e] known to them, and will continue to make you known in order that the love you have for me may be in them and that I myself may be in them.”
willy92507 1 year ago
@omGOP3 the Father, it is He and He alone who intercedes for us, for it was His blood which paid such a great price for us to even enter the throne room in Spirit.
willy92507 1 year ago
@willy92507 as people that have lived a wonderful life in true dedication and reverence to Christ... they are the people that we recognize as living such sacred Christian lives [most "losing their lives" for their beliefs and "finding" a new life in heaven] that they too deserve a degree of reverence and respect. We count them as holy friends in high places [excuse the pun] who are more capable of a perfect prayer than we can hope to attain. As the old testament stresses, it is not the # ofwords
omGOP3 1 year ago
@willy92507 and you. don't provoke Archangel777Catholic. By trying to give him/her a jesus moment when you haven't even scheduled it with Jesus is not going to work in your favor. try to understand their side instead of ridiculing every aspect of it.
FlamingRose11 1 year ago
@Archangel777Catholic If I can just point out... SOLA FIDE is a [new] "tradition" in the view of religion, unlike Catholicism which was started by Jesus Christ himself and guided by the Holy Spirit ever since, this belief/tradition was begun by none other but the heretic Martin Luther [who was extremely racist, Anti-Semitic, & a misguided man wanted to start a NEW religion so that he could satisfy his lust w a former nun] sounds to me an awful lot like a man leading Christians astray
omGOP3 1 year ago
@omGOP3 Yes, I know. Did I accidentally use it wrong somewhere? If so, I am sorry. You sound like me on another page telling the truth about that adulterer and iconoclast with whose name I will not stain this post. Thanks for having by back with that willy92507 argument, I didn't notice it for a while. Catholic blood runs deep. Pax et bonum.
Archangel777Catholic 1 year ago
@Archangel777Catholic -Praises be to Jesus [now and always] pas du problem... no you totally had it right... I was just emphasizing and presenting an additional point
omGOP3 1 year ago
@Willy92507 Do you ever ask members of your family to pray for you? Well, that is EXACTLY what catholics do when we pray to the saints. Please, I beg you to look at both sides of the argument before you start insulting things so dear to your fellow christians such as tradition (which is scriptural).
178Lawrence 1 year ago
@178Lawrence Yeah, but I don't ask dead members of my family, they are gone, they cannot intercede for me when their spirit is crying out for justice, as it says in Revelations. Only person it says is Scriptual that he prays for you after His death was Jesus. I follow the word, NOT the traditions of men, they can LEAD YOU ASTRAY
willy92507 1 year ago
@willy92507 Religious tradition isn't founded by men themselves but by the Holy Spirit. Jesus said so himself, he did not come to abolish the law but to fulfill it. Thus we are not free to live without the observance of both the new AND old testament teachings. Catholicism follows not the tradition of men but of Judaic teachings & Jesus Christ himself as well as the explanations and letters of the apostles which were inspired by the Holy Spirit. We try to preserve our faith from evil influence
omGOP3 1 year ago
@willy92507 where does it supposedly say that? I'd really like to know
omGOP3 1 year ago
i love this video. i think, god is in everything and he loves all of us.whatever we believe or not. i don´t think that he punishes evryone for anything. that can only do people themself. judging and guilt and punishing has nothing to do with god...it´s human and people had wrote these things. god is only love and jesus was a man, nothing more, his son, like all of us are his children.love is the only way, everything else is human and god must be bigger than that.
leiaco 1 year ago
@leiaco Wow Satan has your ear. If you truly believe what wrote. You are falling into his plans. If you do not believe the wrath of God. Look at Haiti voodoo capital of the world. Earthquake, Flood, Disease. Kinda biblical dont ya think?
jadams2768 1 year ago
@jadams2768 Just because Hati is prone to natural disaters does not mean anything. look at america we Have hurricane season in some states, tornados in otheres, and wildfires. Also most thrid world countries such as Hati are prone to disease also but once again I am not telling you what to believe that is your choice not mine.
BexxiM 1 year ago
@jadams2768 be careful! christ told us not to judge and insinuating that the poor haitians almost " deserved" the earthquake is extremely judgementaland in my opinion at least,rather cruel! as christians it is our duty to help in whatever way we can; send money and pray for them for instance!
nanaroyale 1 year ago
To those who do not refer to Mary as a goddess, that is fine, but understand that in other cultures she is considered an Ascended Master and a goddess. She is mentioned throughout many other religions than Catholicism, it's just that many people do not study various religions and world cultures enough to understand the view of her in other religions and cultures. However you refer to Mary, hopefully she brings you peace and happiness. Arguing defeats her presence and message to the world.
HealingPortalTV 1 year ago 2
@HealingPortalTV First things first. I have studied other religons but the only religon I know to be true is the the Christian view, NOT Cathoicism, because, how in the world do a Catholic get their views about Mary being the Queen of Heaven... The Holy speaks solidly about Yeshua bbeing the SON of GOD, of GOD being GOD, there are no hidden secretes in those to stated facts about the Scriptures. Now, we no doubtly have to read between the lines to see Mary as mother of GOD, as Queen of Heaven.
willy92507 1 year ago
@HealingPortalTV Yes she was blessed among WOMEN, it doesn't say among gods and goddesses, it says she was blessed among WOMEN, she was highly favored by GOD, but it does not say she would be queen of heaven, nor does it say in Scripture, to pray to her. Jesus said that He was the light, that you have to go to HIM to get to the father. Her never once said got to my mother than I will in turn go to my Father, no, it does not say that. yet on the contrary, Jesus said, he is the door, there no
willy92507 1 year ago
@HealingPortalTV other way. And again, in John 17 Jesus prays, after to His disciples; 1These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee:
2As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him.
3And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent
willy92507 1 year ago
@HealingPortalTV 4I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do.
5And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.
6I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word.
7Now they have known that all things whatsoever thou hast given me are of thee.
willy92507 1 year ago
@HealingPortalTV 8For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me. 9I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine.
willy92507 1 year ago
@HealingPortalTV 10And all mine are thine, and thine are mine; and I am glorified in them. 11And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are
willy92507 1 year ago
@HealingPortalTV 12While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled. 13And now come I to thee; and these things I speak in the world, that they might have my joy fulfilled in themselves.
14I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.
willy92507 1 year ago
@HealingPortalTV 15I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.
16They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.
17Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.
18As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world.
19And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth.
willy92507 1 year ago
@HealingPortalTV 20Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;
21That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. 22And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:
willy92507 1 year ago
@HealingPortalTV 23I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.
24Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world.
willy92507 1 year ago
@HealingPortalTV 25 O righteous Father, the world hath not known thee: but I have known thee, and these have known that thou hast sent me. 26And I have declared unto them thy name, and will declare it: that the love wherewith thou hast loved me may be in them, and I in them.
willy92507 1 year ago
Mary is a goddess, peacefull and mothering. While we are on this planet we don`t see the whole picture, humans take small parts of the spiritual whole and make them into religions based on a mad mix of something good from heaven, human littlemindednes and hate for ourselves. We don`t love ourselves, so we cant love anyone else. This is true for most humans. No-one can take ownership over Queen/Goddess Mary or over anyone else, Goddess or human.
freedomlightchild 1 year ago 2
@freedomlightchild No she's not. {: -D
willy92507 1 year ago
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@willy92507 you can believe what you believe
BexxiM 1 year ago
@freedomlightchild We do not have any " goddesses" in the Catholic Church.You become a laughingstock, and it proves that your IQ level is not high and that you lack any theological knowledge. Virgin Mary never worshiped in the Catholic Church and no other saint either, but you can ask them for their prayers for us here on earth. We worship only God., If you listen to the Credo in unum Deum (the Nicene) "I believe in one God ...". Poor thing you are talking in the nightcap. Fool.
Hypoxiaxxx 1 year ago
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willy92507 1 year ago
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@Hypoxiaxxx But your the one thats misled, Jesus said there was ONLY ONE WAY TO THE FATHER AND THAT WAS THRU HIM. What you are doing is contradicting HIS word. Now, if you wanna do that, than you're the crazy one. Read the Scriptures and stop following the stupid traditions of men, because they can lead you astray. From the looks of it, they already have... Jesus is the ONLY ONE who can intercede for us, NOT MARY, NOT PETER, NOR JOHN, LUKE, or any one else, ONLY JESUS. Read your SCRIPTURES
willy92507 1 year ago
@Hypoxiaxxx But your the one thats misled, Jesus siad there was ONLY ONE WAY TO THE FATHER AND THAT WAS THRU HIM. What you are doing is contradicting HIS word. Now, if you wanna do that, than you're the crazy one. Read the Scriptures and stop following the stupid traditions of men, because can lead you astray. From the looks of it, they already have... Jesus is the ONLY ONE who can intercede for us, NOT MARY, NOT PETER, NOR JOHN, LUKE, or any one else, ONLY JESUS. Read your SCRIPTURES
willy92507 1 year ago
@willy92507 Read the Scriptures yourself. I imagine that you are a Protestant who hasn't yet read the letters in the New Testament. If you had, then you would see that it clearly reads "Do not merely listen to the word, and so deceive ourselves. Do what it says."-James 1:22 And later it says "What good is it, my brothers, if a man claims to have faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save him?...Faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead."-James 2:14,17
Archangel777Catholic 1 year ago
@Hypoxiaxxx he wasnt accusing catholics of worshipping mary you moron he was saying she is a goddess so dont put words into peoples mouth
jeffreywish 1 year ago
@jeffreywish But she is NOT a " Goddess"!!!!!!!!!!!!! There is only ONE God. We DO NOT HAVE ANY GODDESSES IN THE CATHOLIC FAITH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! She is the mother of Jesus and a saint, nothing else! Dont tell me how and in what we Catholichs believe in!
Hypoxiaxxx 1 year ago
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jeffreywish 1 year ago
@jeffreywish You chose your words when you write to me, otherwise I will report you and a notification will be made and I will start a legal process. Please respect peopels opinions, and as I said, chose your words.
Hypoxiaxxx 1 year ago
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jeffreywish 1 year ago
@jeffreywish " @Hypoxiaxxx i'm not talking about catholics you idiot just because you catholics have little respect for mary doesnt mean everyone else does there are people who see her as a goddess and idk what you catholics beleive in because there so much dogma in your religion " I´m telling you, chose your words otherwise a notification will be made and I will start a legal process. You dont call peopel " idiots". Sure you have the freedom to speach but NOToffend people and call them idiots.
Hypoxiaxxx 1 year ago
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jeffreywish 1 year ago
@jeffreywish I will now report you. Dont think that you cant act how you want here on Youtube and call people what ever you want. I wont write you any more, but as I said, a report will be made.
Hypoxiaxxx 1 year ago
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@Hypoxiaxxx an i'm going to report you
jeffreywish 1 year ago
@Hypoxiaxxx Well, we do pray to her, and attribute miracles (see when the old pope was shot and survived) to most faiths that's the definition of a god.
greengrendel 1 year ago
@freedomlightchild WELL SAID!!!
estrellanortena14 1 year ago
@freedomlightchild right on!!!!!
TheBlessings101 1 year ago