You'll notice the song hasn't exactly become the theme of TSN hockey coverage. Nobody, repeat NOBODY associates the song with TSN, nor will they ever. Regardless of who has the rights, it will always be linked with CBC and Hockey Night in Canada
It all just came down to money. The CBC insisted they didn't have enought to pay what the composer demanded, but if the song were that important, they could have bought it outright.
we get hnic in scotland thanx to espn america. the only time i don't flip channels during a break in play, is a commercial break .don cherry? the smartest white haired canadian that is an expert on ice is a polar bear
tsn is a joke, the song will never be the same. i am impressed with the new tune cbc has but it could never be replaced. tsn is now adding lyrics to the original song......
Exactly. Or, as another poster mentioned, those in attendance at the games should start humming the tune in the arena. A collective ta-ta-ra-ta-da in tribute....
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the fuckin song sucks a fuckin 3 year old could of put it together, fuck off who ever was behind the making of this song, and the one whoes idea it was, for you shall rot and burn with the demons in hell, for eternety.
Thanks to Madeline Morris for clearing things up a bit. With regards to the HNiC Theme contest. You create a piece of music then it's yours. Period. It's completely disrespectful to all musicians for CBC in their contest to make such a demand that musicians lose all rights to their work. Music licence fees are standard for the entertainment industry, and they're not excessive. Don't be stupid enough to give it away for "bragging rights" and $100,000 of taxable income, instead of it's true value.
I just wanted to thank you, on behalf of my mother, for your support of the hockey theme. I also wanted you to know my side of the story, because it's important to me. What I hope you will acknowledge is that the CBC has had an exclusive media platform on which to air its side of the story.
First, to clear up some misconceptions. For 25 years, CBC paid my mother no license fees at all for the music. It was only in the last 15 years that they began to pay any license fee at all.
Last week, after more than a year of CBC bullying, threatening and endless changing of positions, we offered the CBC the following deal: forget the lawsuit - just pay our legal fees (which we incurred because of CBC's breach of usage as agreed in the license deal) and let's keep the same licensing deal as before. That's it...same as before. $500 per episode of HNIC. They did not accept.
They kept bullying us, telling us the song was worthless, threatening to drop the song altogether if we didn't give them exactly what they wanted, absolutely on their terms. If not, they'd hold a national contest and replace the song. Honestly, it became increasingly clear to us that this was their plan all along - to offer deals that were impossible for us to accept, so they would have the excuse to drop the song without being blamed for doing it.
On Thursday, they sent us an email rejecting the offer and saying that it was sad we could not come to an agreement.
Then on Friday, Scott Moore of the CBC announced the Song Contest to replace the theme. So, it was clear, for sure, that this was over for us.
My belief is that when it started to become clear to the CBC that the public wasn't happy with their decision, they announced that they would negotiate further.
Frankly, my mother was so depressed, she just said - no, they don't really want the song. It's better at least if it dies a dignified death.
When CTV made an offer, they promised that they'd use the song, and they'd use it in association with Canadian hockey. Of all the things, this mattered most to my mother.
I know you are probably upset that we didn't resolve our differences with the CBC, but no matter what they say publicly, they really, clearly, didn't give a shit about the theme.
Their only concern was they should not be seen to be the villains in getting rid of it. My mother became a very convenient scapegoat.
To a composer, their music is like their baby - they don't want to see it buried, or forgotten, or sidelined. And my mother, being a rather strong woman, just wasn't willing to be bullied and threatened any more. A lot of people are going to call her greedy and opportunistic.
Well, they just don't know her at all. It's going to sound trite if I say that "it wasn't about the money". But ask any composer of music if they want to see their work buried, and never played again. It's easy to focus on the money. But it was never, ever about the money. Life, and people, are just a lot more complex than that.
i really dont care that they gave it up... seriously, good for the composer. Hockey is still hockey. Music is still music. Feel so bad about it? I say we have a contest for a new theme song.
Is Dolores Claman Canadian? Then she should know the importance of the theme, and not try to fleece CBC for a boatload of money for the rights to her song. I don't know what kind of money she's asking for, but its obvious its significantly more than the previous arrangement. Lets all hope for an agreement-if not, than we just cue up the HNIC theme right here on youtube, muting whatever the new one is.
I'm pretty sure that she is canadian, she get $500 each time the song is played and i believe the reason they're not renegotiating is because her agent (who is a huge dirtbag) wants the same $500 everytime its played. Or so i read in the Calgary Sun
Is Dolores Claman, or more likely her agent, thinking they can score like Merv Griffin did?
It's been said Griffin made some $70 million (his guess) from royalties for the Jeopardy! "Think" music. I don't know what the details are about the HNIC royalty spat, but if the CBC thumbed its bureaucratic noses at it, something must have stunk.
Being from Detroit I've always felt so lucky that we get cbc and I can watch Hockey Night in Canada... With the way the tv deal is now there's never hockey on tv unless the Wings are playing so it's always great being able to watch the show.... Plus the people calling the game actually know what they're talking about unlike the people here in the states outside of Detroit...
I just can't believe they're not using the them song anymore... My brother and I always love hearing it....
For reference, that is because that way back when Foster Hewitt first started calling hockey games, Newfoundland was still a British colony. It wasn't until 1949 when Newfoundland joined Canada that there stopped being a distinction between Newfies and Canadians.
It's Newfoundland. When HNIC first started to broadcast, it was before 1949 (when Newfoundland joined Confederation) so in addition to being broadcast in Canada, it also went to the USA and Newfoundland.
Newfoundland was mentioned separately because the Dominion of Newfoundland and Labrador was a part of the UK until 1949, not Canada; that introduction was written when present day Newfoundland was part of the UK
Man, I remember I was at the Bell Centre for a day game Islanders versus Canadiens I was stoked when the Islanders won of course, but was even better was finding a bar that had a big screen, fresh Molson Ex and Hockey Night In Canada on
I Agree With All The Players Im English But We Watch It On NASN(north american Sports Network And Every Sat Night We Allways Watch It Live Because ITs So Good
A couple of years ago my Dad had the pleasure of sitting next to Dick Irvin on the train from Montreal to Toronto. I'm so jealous because they talked "old time hockey" the whole time, and my dad got to hear stories that most of us never will. I really can't think of a better man to sit next to on the train for 3 hours than Dick Irvin! My dad sucks!!!
I am deeply sadenned by the premature departure of HNIC's colour commentator Harry Neale. Harry's knowledgable insights and his recollection of Toronto Maple Leaf statistics was extraordinary. Perhaps most of all I will miss his vibrant personality and the sheer passion he exemplified during his broadcasts alongside Bob Cole.
Gotta agree with you. Too many people are against Bob Cole and Harry Neale. Probably because of the Leafism they have, but still. I have to agree with you.
Those goaltenders from yesterday used to wear some really scary masks!. I have a Hockey book, I bought in Chapters in Vancouver and the picture of the goaltenders FREAK! me out.
Dear Comcast:
There is only one Hockey Night, Saturday night, Hockey Night in Canada.
Alouicious 6 months ago
FUCK YOU TSN!
dannyd534 1 year ago
i miss the old song too. im happy its on tsn but they seriously screwed it up
swordlord44 1 year ago
@swordlord44 Yeah fuckin' Bob Mackenzie! CBC has more class.
GorterPoss 1 year ago
@GorterPoss true that
swordlord44 1 year ago
I miss the old theme song :(
theurbansoul 2 years ago
me too. Fuckin' CTV globemedia. Those bastards...
GorterPoss 2 years ago
You'll notice the song hasn't exactly become the theme of TSN hockey coverage. Nobody, repeat NOBODY associates the song with TSN, nor will they ever. Regardless of who has the rights, it will always be linked with CBC and Hockey Night in Canada
rickincalgary 2 years ago 3
excellent observation. They've butchered the song!
GorterPoss 2 years ago
It all just came down to money. The CBC insisted they didn't have enought to pay what the composer demanded, but if the song were that important, they could have bought it outright.
Alouicious 2 years ago
Gah. That song shouldn't have left the CBC.
Did it all just come down to money?
beercanjunkie 2 years ago
we get hnic in scotland thanx to espn america. the only time i don't flip channels during a break in play, is a commercial break .don cherry? the smartest white haired canadian that is an expert on ice is a polar bear
kilomeister 2 years ago
this should be shown to americans to show them our utter dedication - every saturday HNIC a canadian tradition
pocopilot 2 years ago
it's also a tradition in the border towns in the States! GO FLYERS!
WunderbaNinja 2 years ago
This is the video I will use to show non-hockey fans why hockey is the greatest game and HNIC its premier stage.
Alouicious 2 years ago
It's so sad. On TSN, it's not the same. (Shaking head.) I still can't believe that this has happened.
jbristowe 2 years ago 3
tsn is a joke, the song will never be the same. i am impressed with the new tune cbc has but it could never be replaced. tsn is now adding lyrics to the original song......
icenuck 3 years ago 2
yeah man, the cbc video is much better, it makes the theme song almost as good as the old one.
fuck-you bob mackenzie.
GorterPoss 2 years ago
well, guess TSN and RDS got the song now... CBC will never be the same again
JMLev88432 3 years ago
fuckin' CTV Globemedia. Sons of bitches. Fuck-you Bob Mackenzie.
GorterPoss 3 years ago
Yes I'm sure Bob McKenzie was in on the negotiations for the theme music... :S
KgnK1 3 years ago 2
damn straight fucker
GorterPoss 2 years ago
watch?v=R3OO8esrlVM <- this theme is amazing
datsyuk134life 3 years ago
Can't believe they changed the SONG.
Ted22219 3 years ago 3
hnic will never be the same....bar none
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TheGreenTeaKid 3 years ago
and they lost the song the next year...wow.
goleafsgo02 3 years ago 2
thanks for putting this on. i will miss it.
JTF0927 3 years ago
i like the new one but the old name is legendary and i want it back, fucking cheap CBC
LeafsJaysRapsFan09 3 years ago 2
Seriously, without the original theme song being played on CBC, it's like watching Coaches Corner without Grapes!
Canada's 2nd anthem is property of Canadians, not just 1 person!
phommahaxay 3 years ago 2
RIP Hockey theme on HINC may it live on with CTV I do like the Canadian Gold song though Out of a bad bunch of suggestions I think it is the best
JamesPaulOneill 3 years ago 3
...and at 7:00pm EST Saturday October 11, I will cue this piece up to drown out whatever is picked as the new theme.
jmat6687 3 years ago 12
Exactly. Or, as another poster mentioned, those in attendance at the games should start humming the tune in the arena. A collective ta-ta-ra-ta-da in tribute....
bz4kh 3 years ago 2
I'm still pissed. I still want the gov't to buy the damned song back. Just pay the lady the three mil. that TSN gave her. It is worth it.
makinawdandy6699 3 years ago 6
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the fuckin song sucks a fuckin 3 year old could of put it together, fuck off who ever was behind the making of this song, and the one whoes idea it was, for you shall rot and burn with the demons in hell, for eternety.
Daniill35 3 years ago
And this song dies -.-
baaaanu 3 years ago
Thanks to Madeline Morris for clearing things up a bit. With regards to the HNiC Theme contest. You create a piece of music then it's yours. Period. It's completely disrespectful to all musicians for CBC in their contest to make such a demand that musicians lose all rights to their work. Music licence fees are standard for the entertainment industry, and they're not excessive. Don't be stupid enough to give it away for "bragging rights" and $100,000 of taxable income, instead of it's true value.
DownWithMSM 3 years ago
man how could they destroy a classic song by selling it too tsn what a load of shit, man people are greedy
TomDelonge15 3 years ago
I just wanted to thank you, on behalf of my mother, for your support of the hockey theme. I also wanted you to know my side of the story, because it's important to me. What I hope you will acknowledge is that the CBC has had an exclusive media platform on which to air its side of the story.
First, to clear up some misconceptions. For 25 years, CBC paid my mother no license fees at all for the music. It was only in the last 15 years that they began to pay any license fee at all.
DownWithMSM 3 years ago 2
Last week, after more than a year of CBC bullying, threatening and endless changing of positions, we offered the CBC the following deal: forget the lawsuit - just pay our legal fees (which we incurred because of CBC's breach of usage as agreed in the license deal) and let's keep the same licensing deal as before. That's it...same as before. $500 per episode of HNIC. They did not accept.
DownWithMSM 3 years ago 2
They kept bullying us, telling us the song was worthless, threatening to drop the song altogether if we didn't give them exactly what they wanted, absolutely on their terms. If not, they'd hold a national contest and replace the song. Honestly, it became increasingly clear to us that this was their plan all along - to offer deals that were impossible for us to accept, so they would have the excuse to drop the song without being blamed for doing it.
DownWithMSM 3 years ago 2
On Thursday, they sent us an email rejecting the offer and saying that it was sad we could not come to an agreement.
Then on Friday, Scott Moore of the CBC announced the Song Contest to replace the theme. So, it was clear, for sure, that this was over for us.
My belief is that when it started to become clear to the CBC that the public wasn't happy with their decision, they announced that they would negotiate further.
DownWithMSM 3 years ago 2
Frankly, my mother was so depressed, she just said - no, they don't really want the song. It's better at least if it dies a dignified death.
When CTV made an offer, they promised that they'd use the song, and they'd use it in association with Canadian hockey. Of all the things, this mattered most to my mother.
I know you are probably upset that we didn't resolve our differences with the CBC, but no matter what they say publicly, they really, clearly, didn't give a shit about the theme.
DownWithMSM 3 years ago 2
Their only concern was they should not be seen to be the villains in getting rid of it. My mother became a very convenient scapegoat.
To a composer, their music is like their baby - they don't want to see it buried, or forgotten, or sidelined. And my mother, being a rather strong woman, just wasn't willing to be bullied and threatened any more. A lot of people are going to call her greedy and opportunistic.
DownWithMSM 3 years ago
Well, they just don't know her at all. It's going to sound trite if I say that "it wasn't about the money". But ask any composer of music if they want to see their work buried, and never played again. It's easy to focus on the money. But it was never, ever about the money. Life, and people, are just a lot more complex than that.
That's my side of the story, for what it's worth.
Madeleine Morris
DownWithMSM 3 years ago
i really dont care that they gave it up... seriously, good for the composer. Hockey is still hockey. Music is still music. Feel so bad about it? I say we have a contest for a new theme song.
nothingtosing 3 years ago
Back to the CBC/SRC the HNIC Theme and the Vancouver 2010 olympics games! Other network run on the CBC/SRC hystory!
Dolores Claman who's that whitout CBC?
The price paid by CTV. Inflate by history of HNIC!
pipens430 3 years ago
Remember
Claman's agent wants between 2.5 - 3 million dollars. CBC offers a million.
Thank God CBC decided not to give them 3 million for this song, I'll rather that they spend that money to build hospitals, schools, etc.
CanuckEhh 3 years ago
This is what they should do: Ask everybody who wants CBC to keep their song to donate like 2-4 dollars to them and they've got their money
purecanada 3 years ago
u know whats stupid? all the american cities have hocky teams. but only 3-4 canadians do and we inventied it!
choper647 3 years ago
5 canadian teams
well 4 leafs dont count
threeshaan 3 years ago
theres 6 canadian teams idiot
brandonpao 3 years ago
i meant leafs and sens dont count
threeshaan 3 years ago
fuck you bud sens are the best youre just another habs fan aren't ya?
TomDelonge15 3 years ago
Is Dolores Claman Canadian? Then she should know the importance of the theme, and not try to fleece CBC for a boatload of money for the rights to her song. I don't know what kind of money she's asking for, but its obvious its significantly more than the previous arrangement. Lets all hope for an agreement-if not, than we just cue up the HNIC theme right here on youtube, muting whatever the new one is.
jmat6687 3 years ago
I'm pretty sure that she is canadian, she get $500 each time the song is played and i believe the reason they're not renegotiating is because her agent (who is a huge dirtbag) wants the same $500 everytime its played. Or so i read in the Calgary Sun
skillzlol 3 years ago
why dunt we also change Canada to something else then, or make up a new national anthem?! what's wrong with the cbc ppl!!!
gretzky's right it is one of the greatest songs in Canda!!!
alviniat 3 years ago
What's next? A new theme for the Olympics? Monday Night Football?
Somebody at CBC is absolutely out of their mind.
jmat6687 3 years ago
Is Dolores Claman, or more likely her agent, thinking they can score like Merv Griffin did?
It's been said Griffin made some $70 million (his guess) from royalties for the Jeopardy! "Think" music. I don't know what the details are about the HNIC royalty spat, but if the CBC thumbed its bureaucratic noses at it, something must have stunk.
fafaflunkie 3 years ago
Man, I can't believe there not using this song anymore..I love Hockey Night In Canada.
budbowl77 3 years ago 2
CBC should remind themselves with this clip. They can't change this, not before, not now, not ever!
slimjohnny 3 years ago
Being from Detroit I've always felt so lucky that we get cbc and I can watch Hockey Night in Canada... With the way the tv deal is now there's never hockey on tv unless the Wings are playing so it's always great being able to watch the show.... Plus the people calling the game actually know what they're talking about unlike the people here in the states outside of Detroit...
I just can't believe they're not using the them song anymore... My brother and I always love hearing it....
dklotz19 3 years ago
I cannot believe that they will actually stop using that theme song... ridiculous decision from the CBC..
rivas832 3 years ago 3
I moved to the States for my job as a doctor, but i sure miss CBC on Saturday nights....i will never stop being Canadian!
Thanks for this video, i definitely appreciate a little taste of home.
geovani28 3 years ago 3
Is he saying "in the United States and Newfoundland" or "in the United States and different lands"?
my mom and i are arguing about it lol
SpGcAr1117 3 years ago
Newfoundland.
streakypro 3 years ago
For reference, that is because that way back when Foster Hewitt first started calling hockey games, Newfoundland was still a British colony. It wasn't until 1949 when Newfoundland joined Canada that there stopped being a distinction between Newfies and Canadians.
Inquisitive0Minds 1 year ago
@streakypro yes indeed. newfoundland only became part of canada in 1949.
hijodechago 2 months ago
It's Newfoundland. When HNIC first started to broadcast, it was before 1949 (when Newfoundland joined Confederation) so in addition to being broadcast in Canada, it also went to the USA and Newfoundland.
mtw7 3 years ago 2
@SpGcAr1117
Newfoundland was mentioned separately because the Dominion of Newfoundland and Labrador was a part of the UK until 1949, not Canada; that introduction was written when present day Newfoundland was part of the UK
dpinzow 9 months ago
@SpGcAr1117 When Foster Hewitt used to do the radio, Newfoundland was not a Canadian province, and if your in the US, you can still get hockey night
undertakerpitt 8 months ago
Is it me? or, during the actually song/video of HNIC, did everyone see a Leafs and a Senators Jersey on 3 of those guys skating around?
PatelD 3 years ago
and on the CBC Sports intro, there a Red Wings Jersey I think. Not sure.
PatelD 3 years ago
I wish Bob Cole was my dad, and I wish Dick Irvin was my grandpa
myunclesnephew 3 years ago
:'(
GorterPoss 3 years ago
Man, I remember I was at the Bell Centre for a day game Islanders versus Canadiens I was stoked when the Islanders won of course, but was even better was finding a bar that had a big screen, fresh Molson Ex and Hockey Night In Canada on
budbowl77 3 years ago 2
I Agree With All The Players Im English But We Watch It On NASN(north american Sports Network And Every Sat Night We Allways Watch It Live Because ITs So Good
HNIC-Ledgendery
CityOfChampions 4 years ago 3
A couple of years ago my Dad had the pleasure of sitting next to Dick Irvin on the train from Montreal to Toronto. I'm so jealous because they talked "old time hockey" the whole time, and my dad got to hear stories that most of us never will. I really can't think of a better man to sit next to on the train for 3 hours than Dick Irvin! My dad sucks!!!
bkelley426 4 years ago
bkelley yur dad is hella lucky! I met Dick Irvin briefly once, he was very kind and a real classy character.
nethoser 4 years ago
I am deeply sadenned by the premature departure of HNIC's colour commentator Harry Neale. Harry's knowledgable insights and his recollection of Toronto Maple Leaf statistics was extraordinary. Perhaps most of all I will miss his vibrant personality and the sheer passion he exemplified during his broadcasts alongside Bob Cole.
represent4life 4 years ago
I am not Canadian, and can't get HNIC, but the theme just gives me chills. HNIC is almost a religious experience. Thanks for posting this......
jmat6687 4 years ago 2
ROFL souray singing the anthem
tiptopluongo 4 years ago
HNIC is Legendary, HNIC is like a religion in Canada, only on Saturday night baby!
BrandonL316 4 years ago 12
HNIC would not be NHIC without Bob Cole and Harry Neale
Shotdowntohell 4 years ago
Gotta agree with you. Too many people are against Bob Cole and Harry Neale. Probably because of the Leafism they have, but still. I have to agree with you.
BrandonL316 4 years ago
As much as Cole and Neale are homers, when it comes playoff time, they are really exciting come playoff time no matter who's playing.
almo8989 4 years ago 2
I believe the expression is shiver down the spine... but who am I to second guess Gretzky.
dougandtheslugs 4 years ago 3
Thanks for it. Hockey Night In Canada is the blood that flows in Canada's sons. HNIC is something I have to catch every weekend.
thefuzzer 4 years ago 2
Those goaltenders from yesterday used to wear some really scary masks!. I have a Hockey book, I bought in Chapters in Vancouver and the picture of the goaltenders FREAK! me out.
TWIX68 4 years ago 2
Thanks for uploading this, streakypro. =) I was looking for it after I'd watched it on television.
I LOVE Hockey Night in Canada. =)
friskie1986 4 years ago 2
Nice, thanks for putting this up =)
quivl 4 years ago 3