Mike Mentzer Trains Boyer Coe Part Two

[DialecticEclectic]

If this were a few years later, Mike would have told Boyer to add more weight and use a 4 second count to eliminate momentum.

[Nippon1971]

Haven't you invented the barbell yet ? Hahahaha !!!

[alfw70]

i wouldve taken the 15.

[Monctonite]

Mike Mentzer again is very obviously in a non training and on a non "supplementation" phase .Same for Boyer Coe. . 

[fromanotherstar]

anyone know if they still sell these machines somewhere?

[Bigbriansc]

I miss the old nautilus leg extentions, man those things used to BOMB thighs.

[pvsg1990]

brown was a popular color back then

[Agui007]

I love that, beyond ripped...shredded...Mentzer, then there's diced minced lol.

[seBlitz]

OMG. these machines are a lot better than the 95% of the machines of nowdays..

[Naturalhit]

@seBlitz Yeah, I miss the Natilus Gym that used to be in my area. They have very good machines. Machines today seems to feel easy and smooth.

[shinshoryuken]

LOL Mike spends most of the time complimenting him.

[7Mefisto]

I like Mike's glasses

[xanthromera]

Boyer Coe has stated that he never made any progress doing this HIT routine because there was no warm-ups and not enough rest between the different exercises. He went to Yates style HIT routine and achieved his best ever condition. I have this in an email from him too,, after I pestered him with heaps of annoying questions.

[indigomuscles]

nix zu sehen von kadenz und versagen......aber den leuten kann man ja viel erzählen....vor allem lesenden pumpern.

[bentnosewp]

Was this before or after Mike started drinking his own urine?

[7Mefisto]

@bentnosewp good one

[freqeist]

@bentnosewp or running down the road naked!

[iflyboats]

he moves too fucking fast

[7Mefisto]

@iflyboats This was before he perfected his method! :P

[Dimitrius001]

As gastrongman said, Mike did indeed use HIT. It wasn't the system he developed, but the one he first learned from jones and continually refined until his death. Mike in fact has stated in interviews and in his writings that in the weeks leading up to a contest that he changed his routine and stopped doing hit. Keep in mind, that when you're getting ready for a contest and cutting your calories in half, you won't be able to train in this manner as the energy demands will be too high

[sphinxofthenewage]

wow i like this machine would like to try it 

[pap0279]

thats a nice machine

[shazam49006]

hahahaha, mike says then its diced lolz, priceless

[shivayavoda]

"just count twelve.." thats the way to roll, epic! :)

[vegas787]

I don't know why sexually insecure jerkoffs like you are so immature, right away you resort to name calling! I'm a bodybuilder here in Vegas, I've had sex with some pro bodybuilders, it must really bug you that buffed guys can like dick too! Mike was amazing looking,, he liked guys too, get over it creepy homophobe!!

[vegas787]

always heard a rumour that Mike Mentzer was bisexual, only had one girlfriend.. and was into guys worshiping his muscles.

[eugdog106]

man go screw yourself mentzer was a great bodybuilder.

[sanyo51]

is that true i thought the same thing...

[scudbook84]

fucking arsehole who cares the guy was a legend

[code2high]

Does anyone know what killed Mike and his brother? I heard they both had unknown heart defects........?

[irishdubfoundation]

mike dies of hear complications and ray dies a few days later of berger symdrome which effects the liver

[hansdebartolo3]

Mike did steroid and methamphetamine and was a smoker so the combo of all those things may have had something to do with it.

[code2high]

hard to believe that a man in such tremendous shape would also be a tweeker.................sad

[hansdebartolo3]

Not really..it is a performance enhancing drug that gives you energy and burns fat. Aside from hurting your heart it would make it easier to be in better shape physically.

[fwaapo]

aint nothing wrong with being a tweaker. i fucked my neighbors wife for like 10 hours on meth. Her pussy was makin farting noises. i can only imagine how it felt to her husband after. i bet she denied him sex for two weeks to keep it a secret. lol . anything goes , no judgement

[pap0279]

@hansdebartolo3 high blood pressure-danger to heart attack or strokes is increased

[diesel021234]

heavy duty works.

[oratorman]

How do you guys know this looks like the set of an 80s gay porno? Do you all watch retro gay porn? I swear in 20 years people are going to look at today's training videos and say those guys look so gay wearing *fill in the blank* Or maybe we should be afraid to compliment a guy on his progress because then people might think I'm gay!

[boneefosho]

looks like the set up of a gay porn...

[vergitacha]

Yeah hahaha..80s gay porn movie

[mad1966dog]

without drugs `heavy Duty´´ does not work

[MikeDunn]

Boyer's form is really good in all of these videos.  He does each exercise very deliberately.

[Zeromus333]

Heavy duty didnt bring there 4 second rules and volume rules till the 90's

[musjeu]

This isn't heavy duty..

[Seeker64]

No but it is the forerunner of it. What Mike learned at the Nautilus facility gave him the foundation to develop Heavy Duty.

Arthur Jones stated in his column "Last half century of the Iron Game" that he would have his routines reduced to just one set to failure. Almost exactly what Mike had stated earlier.

Nautilus set the Stage for HIT and for Heavy Duty and Super Slow Protocol, and for Negative reps, and for the whole idea of working out efficiently and productively.

[kingko31]

nice machines my niggas

[Battery9876]

I can't believe those videos.. what bunch of morons..

I used to do heavy duty a long time ago.. if I had see that I wouldn't even have given it a try lol

[1983banana1983]

Still, Mike had a amazing physique. Perhaps heavy duty also helped you in your training more than you think :-)

I like to think it's a effective way of working out.: Less time in the gym, more rest for the muscles.

[Battery9876]

more rest so fucking what? that's not how hypertrophy works..

[Phantomplayz]

Zzzzz.....snooze, sleep some more......that was f''n boring as hell!!!

[sz42781]

Boyer you comb over is getting massive

[spade121981]

"I can literally see every fibre in your wig.....oh im sorry Boyer i meant your back"LOL

[sz42781]

Boyer your scalp is very vascular hmm not that I could tell

[Aur0rah]

THEY HAD GREAT MACHINES MAN! i dont see these anymore

[sz42781]

lol

[steroidsR4losers]

...

[spade121981]

you can only post on videos where the athletes are clearly on juice otherwise you cant post steroidsr4losers....those are the rules....LOL

[steroidsR4losers]

If they were on steroids, you can still post. :)

[spade121981]

Prove it!

[spade121981]

Theres a filp side to one of your comments and thats nothing YOU say will stop people from using juice.

[steroidsR4losers]

People are now talking more about steroids.

[spade121981]

...i know and i love it...besides people cheat in all spects of life not just athletics...people cheat on exams,dont pay taxes,sleep with people to get jobs,politicians lie etc....would you consider these people cheaters too?

[sz42781]

I dont use roids, never have probally never will! But why do you have sutch a hardon for roids

[steroidsR4losers]

I don't. I/we don't like roids.

[muscleoffigus]

then cut off yourr balls and remove all steroid producing glands from your body

[steroidR4bigmen]

( . ) ( . )

[Vacobra]

Steroids r 4 fags

[steroidsR4losers]

...

[spade121981]

both mike and boyer are not on the juice in this video either....so once again how are they cheaters?....you keep slipping up steroidsr4losers

[steroidsR4losers]

Did I say in that video? Nice try, but we are still going to keep spreading our message. Nothing you can say that will stop us. ;)

[spade121981]

"did i say in that video"....no....but if thats true then theres no reason to post steroidsr4losers to this particular video is there?...just like you said in a roundaboutway their not on juice in this video so therefore you dont need to post here....get it.LOL

[0587dave]

ok i understand what your message is you have stated it in like a million videos. my question is why are you doing it? why is this your message? there really are more important things to rant about than steroids

[Tigerpaws9097826]

How can we tell? I'm not trying to be contentious - for all I know, you're right.  I just don't know how someone can tell someone is on steroids on a video by looking, unless s/he was involved with the making of the video perhaps.

No disrespect intended to either athlete. I'm not in favor of steroid use, but steroids or no, Mike was a tremendous guy.

[spade121981]

....hes not on juice in this video...look at another video on youtube with boyer,shawn ray and lenda murray....in that video hes on juice.....you'll see a clear difference in his physique between that video and this one.

[0587dave]

or it could be because he was using a training style that actually worked unlike hit hahaha

[Vacobra]

fucking idiots! Steroids are for idiots!

[steroidsR4losers]

roids

[papipumpit]

Boyer was so much smaller back then. I love to see Bodybuilders who make noticable gains. Most pros. make small noticable changes...since they are alredy huge..most of there change is noticed in their condition not mass come The Big Show.

[steroidR4bigmen]

SteroidsR4losers is unemployed and is wanted in several countries for male butt-rape.

[ChrisXMetal]

Dude, your comments are no better than his, just mark his comments as spam and leave it alone. He obviously thrives off the attention.

Secondly what type of chest machine is that? Looks pretty scary.

[steroidR4bigmen]

Don't worry about what I do on youtube, dude.

Also, the strange looking device Boyer is training on is called: "The Nautilus 30 degrees Chest Machine."

[Ducatista696]

Actually it's the Nautilus 10 degree. They don't make a 30. they made a 10,40,70. Dumbass.

[steroidR4bigmen]

Oh really? Well good for you, you sperm-sucking dog!

[Ducatista696]

Class act as usual. You're Mom would say hi but her mouth is full of me right now.

[steroidR4bigmen]

Yeah, she's laughing because it's nothing but a little skin tab. You might want to stick your shit encrusted cock in your dad's ass, that's more you style, Fucktard!

[Ducatista696]

Skin Tab LOL!

[silencer303]

Alot of the equipment looks pretty crazy lol wish it was still about.

[bufbarbnaby]

Arnold hated Mike. Mike and Ray both died so I guess Arnie won.

[neilp77]

Hopefully for all of us, you'll die soon, also.

[Zetay2]

left handed people very smart wow didnt know mike;)

[JAShalvey1984]

Boyer, slow down those reps buddy! Way too fast for the cam to work most efficiently with no spikes from explosion in the natural strength curve.

[sz42781]

LOL WTF

[HITpadawan]

no - it was genetic heart and lung problems, the same of which killed their father

[amarone1956]

Coe looks so small.

[0587dave]

thats because he is training hit haha

[nenzi671]

Big difference in Mike between this vid & some other posted vids here. He appears strong & fit w/a deep voice. In later vids he seems ill. No more muscles,stooped over, fat & slurred speech. Boyer looks smaller here too. And no hairpiece like now.

[SYNERGISTIC123]

Yes, but remember this was 1983, the others filmed 1999/2000 - 16 or 17 tough years in between.

[nenzi671]

So sad to see Mike and Ray deteriorate like they did. Once large,strong men.Dying 2 days apart in the same apt. is suspicious too. There is a recent vid of them both together. Ray was so old looking I didnt recognize him at first. RIP Mike and Ray.

[mk60068]

Mentzer could do 10-12 clean, slow reps with the 240-lb stack on the Nautilus 10-degree chest. I tried it once and I could not even budge the stack, ended up doing a set with 90 for reps, and I ain't weak.

[RideTheLightning1989]

Yep & he could barbell curl 225LBS for slow reps too. The guy was a beast.

[spritz0]

I met him in 1993 at Gold's Venice, his forearms were like bowling pins, but even thicker- his strength must have been insane in the late 70's at his peak!! Boyer Coe looks incredibly small in these vids!

[spade121981]

Boyers off the sauce here for sure.Still looks bigger than the average ham and egger you would see on the street though.

[ireland70]

I think it is interesting how fast Mike lets Boyer preform the reps. It must have been later in his career that Mike began going with the much much slower reps. I guess it shows that Mike was always learning and was will to evolve in his training practices. Not really a HIT training session.

[gastrongman]

@MrRanger1987 we all know mike didnt use HIT until 1971 when he met Casey Viator. He didnt use one set per exercise during his competitive days, but he did only do about 5 to 6 sets per body part, which was still radical compared to the 6 days a week, 20 set per body part used by others. And he admits in his books that he was still over training, but he did use HIT, and the theory was still in its early stages but as he learned, it evolved. He wasnt trying to fool anyone.

[7Mefisto]

@gastrongman He was over training because he didn't cycle the intensity and didn't change exercises

[silicon2001]

Mentzer quote:

I weighed the risks against the benefits and decided that I would use steroids. And as far as I know, I've never had any problems.

[olympia80]

And your point is? Can you prove without ambiguity that steroids were the principal cause of Mike's death? No, you cannot. If you were a pathologist every death certificate would have STEROIDS on it. Still the same one dimensional nonsense - STEROIDS, STEROIDS, STEROIDS. Change the record idiot.

[chazbinst]

this blokes an idiot isn't he

[toodyface]

Do you think steroids had any baring on Mike & Ray's early death?

[pap0279]

@olympia80 Steroids are dangerous thats a fact.high bloud pressure,brain damage,toxic to the kidneys and liver and many more.You can take some other medicines 4 the side effects but every med has at least a side effect.Check themany wwf deaths from stereoids

[73Nateman]

@pap0279 There are risks and benefits to everything. Not all steroids are toxic to the liver only oral steroids. After a cycle you usually run post cycle therapy which reverses all the side effects. And I checked out how many deaths from steroids have happened. according to the cdc only 3 per year. yep thats it, 3. Thats from abuse. Do you know the risks associated with asprin. Ulcers, bloody stools, Reyes syndrome, increases risk of heart faliure. 5,000 people die annually form asprin abuse

[eugdog106]

mike died from cardiac problems.

[Naturalhit]

You guys are forgetting Boyer is not very big to begin with. He competes at 185lbs. In 1980 Mr. Olympia he was 192. In the Masters Mr. Olympia in 1994 he was 205lbs. Mike here is 225-230lbs and his brother Ray is at 255lbs.

[olympia80]

I've followed Boyer's career from the early

70's with NABBA. Sorry, but I was shocked at how poor he looks here - even with a moderate ectomorphic rating. He's pretty small, no two ways about it.

[Agui007]

Agreed, Boyer certainly looks small here which is the startling fact of how quickly steroids seem to blow people up.

[soitoldhimno]

He's also not quite going all the way to failure.

[olympia80]

Boyer is way down in size here. He must be around 170/180lbs. Must be off the gear. But it does show how hard he must have fought for his mass with a meso/endo somatotype.

[realityfighting]

boyer looks like shit

[supermariusz]

boyer looks like shit

[Naturalhit]

Boyer looks great.