Revolutionary Speaker Technology

[dnamediarecordsinc]

you become a better mixing enginner not a sound enginner, a sound enginner solve that kind of problems

[organeu]

certainly the best studio monitors in their class from the inventor of the studio monitor, real factory where all loudspeakers are state of the art: 60 years of great experience and, excellence. Thanks JBL.

[bassmekanik101]

This old tech

[Bluesage2009]

This is clearly a paid advert, your not kidding anyone !

[dooftea]

this technology has been around for some time now. i know bang & olifson use it

[Gtrplyr1]

Sounds interesting though.

[Deathrape2001]

Box = flex. Cylinder = no flex =) Flex = bad = distorted = colored sound. Cylinder = no flex = no coloration = good sound.

Fuking morons. Your insanity is fascinating.

[Gtrplyr1]

look at Deathrape getting all excited lol

[Deathrape2001]

Who or what I am or do or say has nothing 2 do with the fact that box speakers sound 'boxy', because they have flat walls that can flex, whereas cylindrical enclosures cannot flex, & thus have no coloration =)

U R retarded. U must smoke a lot of pot or something. Hell I bet U even like Obama ROFL!!

[Deathrape2001]

I could B a cockroach from Pluto W/6 heads. Tell me, clown, WTF does that have 2 do with the fact box speakers produce innacurate colored sound due 2 wall flex. Do tell, O' wise 1 =))

Meanwhile, cylinders can't flex. & what music I do or don't have - magically affects the laws of physics? ROFL!! OMFG U must B an Obama supporter with a brain cell like that.

[DuralastTurbo]

What the hell does his music have to do with anything? The fact a cylinder doesn't flex is just physics.

[DuralastTurbo]

What does his music have to do with anything? A box has flexible walls, and a cylinder is rigid. That's just physics. That's why gas tanks & other pressurized things use cylinders - duh

[Gtrplyr1]

not the point. i came here to say something good about the monitors, and that idiots got some mouth. Not here to prove anything just compliment my own results with these. He/she doesn't realize that "good sounding" is not what engineers want.

[DuralastTurbo]

Good sound is natural realistic sound, and he says that clearly. I guess telling yourself you prefer muddy crappy harsh sound makes you feel better about wasting your money on overpriced boxes. This reminds me of people who buy some junky unreliable American car, then try to make excuses for it. It's really fascinating to watch. "I love my P.O.S. pile of scrap that breaks down all the time. Reliability is not what drivers want!" =))

[DuralastTurbo]

P.S.: I would bet my right arm you have never heard the speakers he talks about. I don't even see cylindrical speakers in stores, but the concept does make sense. You aren't even curious - no, just sit there praising boxes like a religious cult nutter. "Quality is not what customers want!" OMG lol

[Gtrplyr1]

Ive heard of them. I am content with these for the time being. Monitors are a personal preference(fact). No pros use cylinders. It's controversial and the only evidence i find is in the sub frequencies which i care not for. It is also apparent that you are the same person as that stupid Death-rape person hence the similar smily faces. Now thats lame.

[DuralastTurbo]

You have heard Neptunes? Where? I'm curious to go hear some =) I would bet not all cylindrical speakers are alike, just like not all box speakers are alike. What cylindricals did you hear? What were your impressions? The Neptunes he says are full range omnis, etc.

[Gtrplyr1]

:) you are the same person man as death rape?? Send me a website on these specific speakers. I am curious. I never said that box was better. WHat i did say is the all the pros are using them and everything we listen to is "box" Perhaps you can explain the exact benefit of the cylinder. You are aware however that high end box speakers have minimal distortions and coloration right? Nothing is perfect.

[DuralastTurbo]

I just heard the name Neptune. I don't know about them. I was asking YOU about them. Obviously you have already decided everything about them, even though you have never heard them, etc.

[Gtrplyr1]

I Never heard of them, I googled them and couldn't find anything either ;(. I also found out that cylinder speakers seem to only be superior in sub frequencies as well. They are better at sound wave dispersion(lifelike sweetspot) however at close mixing it isn't important

[DuralastTurbo]

Why don't you just ask the youtube guy about them.

[Gtrplyr1]

who?

[Gtrplyr1]

Send and i will look :)

[DuralastTurbo]

Send what?

[Gtrplyr1]

Music?? wheres your music?

Wheres your music??

:)

[Deathrape2001]

Sorry clown, I M not into slave noise like U. Not 2 imply that changes the laws of physics.

I suppose if I were into country or bluegrass, magically that would make cylinders flexy floppy like box junk yes? NOT!

[Gtrplyr1]

These monitors are outstanding.. I recently picked up a pair of the 4328p's.. They are really acurate and the RMC is sweet. These monitors were used to mix the Emmy awards as well !!

Watch the video "Studer And JBL" and skip to 3:13!!!!

[Deathrape2001]

What do they cost? Neptune cylindricals wipe the floor W/almost N E thing & go 4 'bout $2k. They even go down 2 17hz or so,loud

[Gtrplyr1]

Brand new the run about 1400. I have seen them used on Ebay for as low as 900 for the pair. These monitors are used for mixing and recording, not really for listening although you could do that and they sound great. 17 hz monitors aren't really necessary being that most stereos will not support such low frequencies,. But if you are a bass junkie they have an additional sub which ive seen for 600 at the lowest price.

[Deathrape2001]

DOOD! Just curious what they cost. They're another 'box' speaker - all box speakers R crap compared 2 neptunes. Not 2 imply Neptunes R the only good speakers.  Big Magnepans also sound good, depending on model & setup, etc.

[Gtrplyr1]

sorry if i sounded strong :) i was just giving you advice, i know a lot about this stuff..

[Deathrape2001]

I know that box speakers all sound 'boxy' =) It's so institutionalized, like the QWERTY keyboard layout, that people rarely stop 2 notice how insane it is. Boxes can flex.  Tubes can't. Flex=coloration/distortion/cra­ppyness.

[Gtrplyr1]

it's all personal preference man.. Most albums and records produced are mixed and mastered with the typical Box shape.

[Deathrape2001]

Cut the crap, brain-dead O'Zombie bot. The fact a formula 1 outperforms a pinto is not a 'matter of preference' or 'opinion'. The fact 1+1=2 does not 'depend on your perspective'. God you're lame.

Cylinders can't flex. Boxes do. Flex = distortion/coloration = end of story. Jeez get a clue

Now go pray 2 your retarded QWERTY keyboard layout. Just 'cuz something is common makes it good? O', & drink booze & smoke as well! HAHA

[Gtrplyr1]

judging by how upset you get over typical conversation only suggests your inside bitterness and need to feel right. I have attended an accredited audio school, as well as worked in many respected studios in the NY area. YOu??? I beg to differ. Don't come with me with your "must be right" attitude when i highly doubt you know the slightest shit about audio production etc. O and by the way, im almost in med school so, sorry i don't do drugs.

[Deathrape2001]

Fukin' retard, as if who or what I am or am not has N E thing whatsoever 2 do with the fact that cylinders don't flex & boxes do.

Seriously man, how the fuk do U figure out how 2 wipe your own ass? ZERO common sense. AMAZING! What next, make fun of my shoe size if U wanna' fix a flat tire? OMG ! HAHAHA

=)) No wonder U buy JBL crap - say MOOOO!

[Gtrplyr1]

And i see what you are referring to as far as flex response now. THe speaker itself. It is better to have no box at all, yes that is true, but if you need the "best" to get a decent mix, music is not the business for you.

[Gtrplyr1]

you also fail to realize i am talking about audio recording. Not enjoyment listening. Being that near filed monitors are relatively close to the mixer, monitors with a wide sweet spot are perfectly fine. If what you say was considerably important the big studios would be using them..

[Deathrape2001]

O', back 2 ME again? WTF do I have 2 do W/the fact ALL speakers regardless of application should have NATURAL sound, as in accurately reproduce the fuking signal U feed 'em! MY GOD U R INSANE!!

[Gtrplyr1]

You are correct, the monitors you speak of make audio sound better. However in audio production speakers that make audio sound "good" are bad.. The good box speakers are capable of being raised loud in volume without distortion, saturation, hence the high price in some. Frequency graphs prove that the sound is natural. These speakers are mixing speakers. Using giant speakers for recording is absurd, the sound source would never be directly pointed at ear level, and a shit mix would sound good.

[Deathrape2001]

WTF R U going on about, Mr. Straw Man fallacy. I specifically said, good sounding = accurately reproduce what U give them.  Thta means, NEUTRALITY, fuking moron. If U want it 2 slam like a sledgehammer, it should B able 2 do it - not fart out like some 'studio minimonitor' BS. U R such a joke.

[Deathrape2001]

WTF man I was just curious what ppl were WASTING on this BOXY CRAP! =))  I was expecting something 'revolutionary' (hence the title), but all I C is another fukin' box - yawn.

U R an irrational person. I suppose U think changing the color of paint on a car makes it run better 2? ROFL! Think 'outside the box', U mind-slave.

[Gtrplyr1]

These speakers are revolutionary. JBL are first ones to put intelligence into their speakers. These speakers kick out a low frequency, then examine the bass buildup in a room, which is then taking away from the sound souce. If that was a joke then other companies wouldn't be copying the idea, such as KRK, and even Genelec. All i want to say is mixing(recording/audio production) monitors are not the same as Home stereo monitors.

Studio monitors = accuracy(pricy ones)

Home = Make sound better.

[Gtrplyr1]

listen man, or girl whatever you are. Get a life. I am not here to waste time with you. I was here to share my taste on these monitors. Box speakers are perfectly fine for close mixing, and the high end ones are perfect(graphs prove this). Please be on your way. All you talk about is sphere, box, and contribute nothing at all to the conversation otherwise, indicating you are just an amateur.

[Deathrape2001]

Me listen Stopped reading @ the word 'listen'. WTF man U R the 1 who doesn't 'listen'. That's Y U choose boxy speakers instead of good-sounding tubular or planar or whatever ones! =)

[Gtrplyr1]

where is your music??? Beats? songs? i would really love to hear your "so called" Perfect sound.. Please share.

[Gtrplyr1]

Your an idiot, "good sounding" is not what audio engineers want.

[Deathrape2001]

ROFL!! Yes of course, U want everything 2 sound like fuking CRAP! That's Y U use horns, & boxes. Hey Y stop @ boxy coloration slathered on everything, when U can add 2 that the shrieking cheese-grater nails-on-a-backboard distortion of horn coloration! WHOOP!! =D

Remember, it's not about sounding good (as in accurate, as I said - 2 accurately transduce whateverthefuk U feed them), but sounding like ? - what exactly SHOULD speakers 'sound' like? Breaking glass & farts? ROFL!!

[Gtrplyr1]

THere is no such thing as the perfect speaker, techs focus on the graphs of each monitor to justify it's use. Get over yourself, i simply can't understand how me using a monitor is so hurtful to you. Perhaps you always feel you need to be right. Speakers are chosen to suite individual needs. Top engineers, top studios etc all use box speakers in the recording mastering process, etc. so please go wine to them and try to convince them what they are doing is wrong. WHERE IS YOUR MUSIC???????????

[organeu]

IT's realy state of the art Monitor. Thanks JBL for this unrivaled technology.

organeu

Sound assistant using JBL since 1977

Hammond organ player

[Chadfish]

Hi Brian. I am a singer/songwriter/audio engineer/ videographer. and I LOVE my LSR4328s. I make TV and Radio spots and these babies make a mix that carries over to other systems nicely. Check out my channel - all mixed with LSR4300 series.

[Guruogitfiddle]

Amen ladex142!!!

[gungamaya]

hmmmmm.. what ever happened to changing the actual rooms acoustics?

surely changing the monitors eq isnt going to take out a 100-200hz reverb at 3 seconds is it?

not convinced!

haha

[Guruogitfiddle]

Not everyone can afford expensive construction remodeling. Most would agree every room is different? So doesnt it make sense to ohave a speaker product which is customizible? And your question 100-200 hz reverb @ 3sec not every room would have that issue. If the speakers are measured correctly time alignment should not be an issue.

[gungamaya]

agreed, but most project studios are in bedrooms, and almost all of them have 100-300hz problems, so for me i would rather spend $1000 on some building materials and deal with all of the problems...

[gungamaya]

omplex eq and alignment isnt going to fix modal problems and early reflections caused by square or rectangle rooms with flat ceilings so for me i know the jbls are a good sounding speaker, but it comes down to pure physics nothing can fix acoustics apart from actually fixing the physical problem with something physical, acoustics..

[benjyboba]

I had an old stereo system from many years ago, I altered the equalizer and managed to get the sound perfect. The way the frequencys were being played on the speakers meant I could put the speaker behind a chair and it wouldn't affect the sound. Moving the speakers and it still sounded near perfect. If you can get the dispearsion played in a paticular way in the first place, the accoustics self balance up the frequencys. Part one frequency part another and the crosstalk fixes the imaging.

[ladex142]

Dude, its a new technology and it's God's send but that doesn't mean one can't attempt to acoustically treat a room but there might still be some problem that will occur. Not everyone is able to setup their studio to match that of a well acoustically treated studio but with these speakers you can now achieve great results because of the technology!

[ladex142]

And if you must know beyonce's new album B-day was mixed with these babies!

[gungamaya]

must be good then! hahaha

considering beyonce is 90% midi im sure they had a really hard time mixing that album! hehe

[giantoyster]

nice idea.... are they using this technology for real time club sytems? it has great potential if it could be tuned to a dynamic environment

[Jigg007]

Yeah, Its not really revolutionary, as the technology has been out for years by Sabine. (which is used for things like clubs and live sound,also)