i am allergic to red meat and can only eat birds and some fish so chicken T.V is a good idea :) (and no im not kidding about being allergic to red meat)
Neither John... you forgot that people used to farm chickens... you know in the day light? and you know... if fields? I'm a vegetarian but if I ever were to eat meat again it would be meat that was locally produced and the animals were farmed how they were suppose to be! In the fields, running freely, and eating organic.
1. TV for chickens to avoid homicidal psychosis - NOT.
2. No chickens at all - DOUBLE not!
I go for option 3: Chickens being raised on grass, doing things chickens do, eating things chickens eat (like bugs and grass and stuff), living the sweet life of chickeny bliss. Like how Joel Salatin at Polyface Farms raises HIS chickens. - CHECK!
The 94 dislikes are all the farmers that are like "Dang you, John Green for exposing the way that we farmers keep our chickens!" And then the 2,980 are the chickens going "Cluckcluckcluck cluck cluckitycluckcluck! ( We love chicken TV! )"
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It may not be possible to un-domesticate chickens per-se, but gradually exposing them to increasing environmental stress will cause them to evolve new survival mechanisms, or awaken the old suppressed ones.
I was going to say that this would be unfortunately result in a lot of dead chickens, but then I remembered what we do with chickens. And that they are delicious.
I have chickens of my own and before that I would only buy free range eggs for this reason, we dont need to give these chickens such a hard life they want to kill them selfs and other sad chickens around them, just buy free range eggs
If we don't have chickens, how will we know what everything else tastes like? All things that taste like it will now be indescribable... We'll have a human race doomed to say "It tastes like... I don't know. What does it taste like?"
Instead of having pet dogs and cats, why not pigs and chickens? They aren't as high matience as many of the pets we own, pets chickens instead of guinea pigs or house rabbits bred to eat, chickens make fantastic cute pets <3
Well considering the fact that chickens' meat and eggs are like really high in demand, i think tv for chickens is a pretty good idea. It decreases chicken life suck
1. Mr Green can reveal two buttons worth of chest in good taste. Sexy without looking douche-y.
2. Notwithstanding, you present a completely false dichotomy: There are several subspecies of chickens that live without any human intervention. They can fly (a little), find food, and they have sharp beaks and talons for defense.
We are not restricted to a no-wild-chicken world if people are willing to have roosters crowing next to their bedroom windows at 4 am.
I think that a world with chickens would be better, and not just for food and eggs and such. Aren't chickens a big part of making flu vaccines or something? We don't need another pandemic like in 1918. Also, since chickens don't live in the wild anymore, it wouldn't screw up the food chain or anything, right?
Anyone else feel bad that we got rid of wild chickens and that they all live to just be eaten? I feel like we fucked with nature. Then again taking a look outside of a window is, in effect, fucking with nature, as windows aren't natural, and neither is the house that it's mounted in, or the neighborhood it's overlooking.
I would choose a world without chickens. Unless there is another use for them besides human consumption (which is unnecessary anyway since protein is actually quite abundant in plants).
A world without chickens would suck for more reasons than the lack of yummy, yummy chicken.
Four words: No. More. Flu. Vaccines.
Chickens are kinda, very, extremely important in the manufacturing of flu vaccines. And I think we can all agree that influenza is a major source of worldsuck. 1918, anyone? Major suckage.
So I'm pro-Tv for Chickens if it makes their dismal lives a little better.
I think a pretty good solution would be the same conclusion Hank came to in the video where he eats meatless corndogs with mayonnaise. You can still eat eggs, just eat less... Less chickens, less eggs, less homicide, more awesome.
everyone who is able to because of adequate space and allowed to by law ought to own a few chickens if they eat eggs frequently. i have 9 and they get to run free and eat grass in my yard, and when they start laying I'll get 9 eggs a day!!!! every family could more than cover their egg needs with that. it is an investment but chickens are beautiful and interesting and make wonderful pets if you hold them and spend time with them.
it's chicken reality TV; showing them the things they think that they could be doing if they weren't in front of the TV getting fat so the food industry can feed off of their resources.
this makes me feel bad about eating chickens now. I mean, I feel bad about eating pigs and cows, but now I feel bad about eating chickens too! I may yet become a vegitarian
here's a question. who's gonna go extinct first? chickens or humans. and yes, this could potentially be identically as puzzling as "what came first? the chicken or the egg?" which i would also like to see answered
People should maybe eat a little less livestock and poultry in general. More humane practices could be instituted if we consumed less of very energy-costly meat. Then we could pursue mrcameradude69's "Secret Hidden Option 3".
You can't wash your hands of social responsibility by donating to charity.
If Vlog brothers want to make a difference to society then start a public awareness campaign.
Encourage restaurant and cafe patrons to ASK "Where do there eggs come from, Are they from caged Birds?"
If they are caged eggs, pay for the food and send it back to the kitchen. I don't think Vlog brothers have the strength of character to make a real difference
You had an opportunity to stand up against corporate greed, animal abuse and animal cruelty and you took the weakest option ... attempted cheap laughs.
Have some back bone and stand up for integrity and compassion.
@Harryandleo You clearly missed his message. He's stimulating discussion about the ethicality of modern poultry farming. And he's succeeded. Just because he made a few jokes while discussing the issue doesn't mean he's not treating it with integrity. You see, 'truth resists simplicity'. While humour can be used for cruel purposes, it can also serve to enlighten.
Also, this year alone the vlogbrothers raised over $100,000 for charity. What was that you said about compassion?
I choose B. Better no chickens than miserable chickens.
And c'mon how many species go extinct EVERY FRIGGN DAY because we pollute the earth so much? We haven't even explored most of them before they die out. [Sad, isn't it?]
In my own opinion, chickens should not be in the world cos A) They scare the frick out of me. Seriously, I have a massive phobia of them. I sound like a wuss but whatever. B) Erm, my second point is the same as the first. They are scary :/
Are those really our only two options? If those are the only two options than I think it's better to keep the chickens and let them watch their TV. But I would like more chickens (and other food animals for that matter) to not just have to settle for watching their dreams on TV, like most humans do in my opinion, but to have a chance to live those dreams themselves. I wish this for humans and chickens alike. I guess in some ways humans and chickens aren't so different.
i'd take chicken tv over no chickens anyday. whatever it takes to make the chickens happy and in the end i still get to eat them (i know that sounds mean, but i don't eat many vaegatables... i'd be very hungry and sad with no chickens)
in watching this video, it occurred to me that the word homicidal, when broken down to its latin roots, means the killing of man. so, using my slight knowledge of latin, i came up with gallicide from gallus- the latin word for rooster. it turns out that i was only slightly off: the term for the killing of chickens or turkeys is gallinicide. gallicide is also a real word, though meaning the killing of fowls.
I was just reading about chickens in a bird book today!
Anyone who owns chickens and knows anything about them knows that chickens are smart and each one is its own individual. They need to be treated well. First of all, humans need to learn to eat less meat. Especially in America, we eat too much. It's not healthy and not environmental (Or often ethical considering the way meat animals are treated). But those animals that we do eat need to live the best possible lives while they're around.
Here's another question to follow up on that last one.
No more "Why did the chicken cross the road jokes" -'cause y'know no kid will know what a chicken is unless they take biology/anatomy of historical creatures-
or
A world in which chickens turkeys and any other breed animal that has a tendency to commit homicide / accidental homicide (which I find hilarious) are brainwashed and trained (for lack of a better word) to be... Awesome to one another.
This makes me a very, very sad nerdfighter. :( I'm a vegetarian, and this is why. Chicken farms. Cow farms. Aminal farms. (yes, aminal) It's cruel. Absolutly cruel.
a world with less chickens, all of which are free range. And I wonder if the woman showed them other tv shows to test if they are responding to seeing chickens or just to watching tv in general.
mmm...i love these turkeynuggets... beefnuggets... porknuggets... lambnuggets... vealnuggets... ostrichnuggets... buffalonuggets... same reason why americans won't eat cats or dogs...chickens will be the next pet craze *_*
Ummm... the Red Junglefowl, a South East Asian species of pheasant that includes all varieties of domesticated chicken, still thrives in the wild. So, no need to worry about the species, just possibly some of the boring, bloated, in-bred varieties we raise for food.
So there I was, on the brink of vegetarianism, and now I've listened to you, and o.O.
Actually, I'm still confused. I thought I wasn't anymore, but that was a lie. It seems like we're still pretty ridiculously mean to chickens. So putting myself in the place of the chickens, would I prefer a world in which all of humanity was being tormented or a world in which humanity was extinct? I think the tormented one. But we should watch out for a chicken uprising. It could happen. Maybe. >.>
@BeeHermione911 [ Hey! You're going to be a vegetarian! Vegan or vegetarian.(vegans don't eat any dairy products) I am just a vegetarian but we get are eggs from people that own a few chickens and have extra eggs. I get my milk from a local dairy farm. Oh, and we can easly inbreed the chickens to get them back to their wild state.
I thought you were talking about some Japanese lady because the name sounded all goofy and silly. Then you said "Finnish" and I thought: "Hmm.. I'm Finnish. Should I be getting something?" And then I got it. You speaking Finnish is a hoot!
2) homicidal chickens just save you the job of killing them.. they should teach them how to deep-fry their victims
3) I love chicken, but I wouldn't mind if they went extinct. although if we can breed all their natural defense mechanisms out of them, we could also breed their ability to feel pain or anger or anything bad.. if they're just on a cage, why do they need such a complex brain?
Instead of tv for chickens they should actually let those poor chickens experience the world outside for themselves. They would still give us eggs and meat it just would be more healthier that is all. They deserve to live a good life in the sunshine after all they will be sacrificing their lives for us so the least we can do is let them enjoy the 4 years they get to live. My 2 chickens are going on 8 yrs.
I say Secret Hidden Option 3 - organic eggs and organically reared chickens, with no TV and access to chicken activities such as pecking the ground and seeing the sunlight.
I know - gasp! - surely there's no such thing?! There is. Trust me. It only costs a little more and you get to feel good about the non-murderous nature of the animal you're eating.
@mrcameradude69 It's worth noting that the photographs I showed were taken at cage-free, organic egg farms.
If you let chickens peck at the ground and see sunlight, you cannot grow as many eggs in America as people in America want to eat. The size of our egg appetite NECESSITATES inhuman farming practices.
Unless you are growing your own chickens and eating their eggs (or buying eggs from someone you know), they live in conditions like what you see in this video. -John
@vlogbrothers John--As newly minted backyard chicken owners ourselves, we wouldn't discount the "unless you are growing your own chickens and eating their eggs" option so quickly. It's definitely doable, even in suburbia. So far the five of them are less maintenance per animal than a dog, a bit more than a cat. :) Just sayin'.
@vlogbrothers but they wont go extinct! you silly... = )
just for the record:
I like having cheap chicken in the store. And do not care if the chicken species are destroyed to keep it that way (It would be really hard for that to happen).
I disagree. We vote with every purchase we make in a supermarket, or farmer's market, or by paying a neighbour with naturally reared outdoor chickens for their eggs. If enough people demand organic eggs, and the term 'organic' demands high welfare standards to be used, more chicken farms using organic methods will by neccessity be created to supply this demand.
Are you telling me there's seriously not enough land in USA to support this?? They really don't require that much space.
@mrcameradude69 actually its not about land. Growing things ungenetically engineered/organic doesn't create a large enough output to sustain neither the farmer nor the consumer. The ratio of farmer to ppl is ridiculous, and the number of farms is shrinking. As Hank has mentioned, making 1 pound of beef takes a lot of resources, adding hormones and stuff which have no effect on the final product, actually decreases the amount of resources for that pound of beef, i assume the same is for chickens
@vlogbrothers That is why I have my own chickens. They eat dirt and bugs and can see the sky and they poop, everywhere! Chickens just don't care who is watching. When it's time to go, they go.
@vlogbrothers John, Which is why to the non-rhetorical question I can only answer- a world with no chickens at all. I *think* the FDA has "cage free" at 11 sq. inches per chicken. I am stopping right now as this is my soapbox issue and could turn radically ugly in a flash. Thanks for this vid, hits a major spot for me. DFTBA (and vegan too!)!
@trapjohnson - I would like to appologize for disliking your comment a little too quickly. While I feel rather strongly about saving the chickens from their horribal chicken hell, I must acknowledge that it is not a bad thing to be more concerned about people than chickens.
-is Finnish- I'm not gonna go into the wrongful pronunciation of Tea "Makipaa" but you might wanna correct the spelling of her last name, it's Mäkipää.
we may breed chickens because they taste good, but we also inject them all sorts of stuff (just like all other farmed meats). We as humans will give ourselves cancer from all this chemical modification.
I agree with you in the "chickens-would-go-extinct-if-we-didn't-need-them" part. Same goes with sheep. An animal which jumps off the nearest cliff when startled (and sheep tend to get startled often) wouldn't outsmart natural selection if men didn't invent fences. In fact, eating meat saves animals. Vegans, you are sick murderers.
I wonder how muc time you would do for killing chickens? Like if you went to a chicken farm with a machine gun and shot a bunch of chickens, how much trouble would you be in?
Well, at a chicken farm it would be like destryoing someone means of living. That farmer gets income from selling chickens so you would have to pay a bunch of money in damages but I'm not sure if you would get charged with animal cruelty because they are menat to be killed and eaten and already have "crap lives"...
For a second I was disappointed at not seeing a clip from TV for Chickens until I realized it would just be chickens running around doing chicken stuff.
i prefer the third, unspoken option, a world where people ate free-range chickens and associated egg products. it's less intensive, better for the chickens and better for your egg-related cholesterol levels as the higher prices will encourage reduced consumption of eggs/chicken meat. i also promise that organic, free-range chicken is much more awesome tasting than homicidal intensively-reared chicken.
Ahahaha, you are so hilarious John. Giant squids of anger!
I'd rather chickens be free-ranging. And I'm not convinced that they would become extinct if we stopped breeding them for food. I definitely don't want them to be extinct!
As a small time chicken famer (meat and egg), I have to disagree that they would go extinct. There are breeds that are less reliant on extinct but most are quite capable of dealing with life outdoors and all it entails like most birds.
The real question is: are the chickens evolving into humans? I mean... they're on the path. No natural light, addicted to television, kept in enclosed areas until they turn homicidal. What is the world coming to when we brainwash the chickens to be us?!
A world with no chickens at all, definitely. The wild chicken is already dead, if there ever was such a thing, or else lives on in grouse and quail and the like. We have to let go. Change is a part of the natural order of the Earth; it's when we try to hold on to things by, for example, stifling wildfires until California became an annual tinderbox, that we really screw them up.
And I love it when you tell us Stories of the Yeti. :)
I'm Finnish, and I can't get over the way you say Tea Makipaa (or Mäkipää here in Finland). It sounds so, so weird to my Finnish ears.
nancyinthetrunk 4 days ago
i am allergic to red meat and can only eat birds and some fish so chicken T.V is a good idea :) (and no im not kidding about being allergic to red meat)
TheRainbowkitty14 1 week ago
Oh he mentioned Finalnd! Oh! That is so cool!
miekka968 2 weeks ago
Neither John... you forgot that people used to farm chickens... you know in the day light? and you know... if fields? I'm a vegetarian but if I ever were to eat meat again it would be meat that was locally produced and the animals were farmed how they were suppose to be! In the fields, running freely, and eating organic.
TheFleurDeMer 2 weeks ago
"Sweetie, you know I love you, but you're just not a two buttons kind of guy."- Sarah the Yeti
ThisFutureAuthor 3 weeks ago
That is sooooo funny! I just love laughing. Thanks.
pouletqueen17 4 weeks ago
Nothing quite like cross stitching My Little Pony:FiM while listening to the Vlogbrothers
Flamefire124 1 month ago 3
Chicken cannibalism is also really common, according to Food, Inc.
HalfMaskedMisfit 1 month ago
1:45 . . . Genius.
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94 people are giant squids of anger.
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WHY ARENT WE DISCUSSING HOW THE FACT THAT CHICKENS LIKE TV FOR CHICKENS CONTRADICTS THE MESSAGE OF THE ANGLERFISH SONG?
llegzgrrl 1 month ago
Oh, The Yeti was so right. Also, I vote for option three: free range chickens.
CoolPplEatDoughnuts 2 months ago
1. TV for chickens to avoid homicidal psychosis - NOT.
2. No chickens at all - DOUBLE not!
I go for option 3: Chickens being raised on grass, doing things chickens do, eating things chickens eat (like bugs and grass and stuff), living the sweet life of chickeny bliss. Like how Joel Salatin at Polyface Farms raises HIS chickens. - CHECK!
Crunchy68 2 months ago 4
The 94 dislikes are all the farmers that are like "Dang you, John Green for exposing the way that we farmers keep our chickens!" And then the 2,980 are the chickens going "Cluckcluckcluck cluck cluckitycluckcluck! ( We love chicken TV! )"
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OMEAMC 2 months ago
Ahahah xD
DyingPickle 2 months ago
@Vlogbrothers Is Ginger Nebula a good band name? What about Nerd Nebula?
Tahonamaya 2 months ago
If only we can somehow un-domesticate chickens...
AlexNuchiha 3 months ago
@AlexNuchiha the "Red Junglefowl" looks ridiculously close, and doesn't sound very domestic :)
sajoth 1 month ago
@AlexNuchiha
It may not be possible to un-domesticate chickens per-se, but gradually exposing them to increasing environmental stress will cause them to evolve new survival mechanisms, or awaken the old suppressed ones.
I was going to say that this would be unfortunately result in a lot of dead chickens, but then I remembered what we do with chickens. And that they are delicious.
MagikosEksMaikhina 1 month ago
I want to keep chickens in my backyard, but my city gov't says I can't... ...so I'm gonna break the law.
eicebleu 3 months ago 3
I have chickens of my own and before that I would only buy free range eggs for this reason, we dont need to give these chickens such a hard life they want to kill them selfs and other sad chickens around them, just buy free range eggs
ItsAmysCrazyLife 4 months ago
This is my favorite vlogbrothers video, not sure why
Jaredsellick 4 months ago
NO CHICKENS
TheCrappyaccount 4 months ago
I get more eggs than I can use from the ones in my backyard. Hidden third option = solution.
AliMcCann1010101 4 months ago 2
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MarkNie1 4 months ago
If we don't have chickens, how will we know what everything else tastes like? All things that taste like it will now be indescribable... We'll have a human race doomed to say "It tastes like... I don't know. What does it taste like?"
ChariSarazard 5 months ago 37
Instead of having pet dogs and cats, why not pigs and chickens? They aren't as high matience as many of the pets we own, pets chickens instead of guinea pigs or house rabbits bred to eat, chickens make fantastic cute pets <3
MewSumomo1 5 months ago
Well considering the fact that chickens' meat and eggs are like really high in demand, i think tv for chickens is a pretty good idea. It decreases chicken life suck
alexis474542 5 months ago
It's like Plato's cave...for chickens
NedISMcGregor 5 months ago
1. Mr Green can reveal two buttons worth of chest in good taste. Sexy without looking douche-y.
2. Notwithstanding, you present a completely false dichotomy: There are several subspecies of chickens that live without any human intervention. They can fly (a little), find food, and they have sharp beaks and talons for defense.
We are not restricted to a no-wild-chicken world if people are willing to have roosters crowing next to their bedroom windows at 4 am.
sugarpeepsez 5 months ago
I think that a world with chickens would be better, and not just for food and eggs and such. Aren't chickens a big part of making flu vaccines or something? We don't need another pandemic like in 1918. Also, since chickens don't live in the wild anymore, it wouldn't screw up the food chain or anything, right?
4LiveLifeWithLove4 5 months ago
Anyone else feel bad that we got rid of wild chickens and that they all live to just be eaten? I feel like we fucked with nature. Then again taking a look outside of a window is, in effect, fucking with nature, as windows aren't natural, and neither is the house that it's mounted in, or the neighborhood it's overlooking.
TheVerybored777 5 months ago
@TheVerybored777 thats depressingly true :/ but i thank you for being aware of something that so many others dont seem to be :)
dob1997 5 months ago
I would choose a world without chickens. Unless there is another use for them besides human consumption (which is unnecessary anyway since protein is actually quite abundant in plants).
M4rple 5 months ago
@Dbkit I think returnign them to dark after having been out in the open would cause them more stress than not having sunlight at all. ???
TheZombieGirrrl 5 months ago
A world without chickens would suck for more reasons than the lack of yummy, yummy chicken.
Four words: No. More. Flu. Vaccines.
Chickens are kinda, very, extremely important in the manufacturing of flu vaccines. And I think we can all agree that influenza is a major source of worldsuck. 1918, anyone? Major suckage.
So I'm pro-Tv for Chickens if it makes their dismal lives a little better.
TheZombieGirrrl 5 months ago
Free range chickens. Simple.
mushroomshrub 6 months ago
I think a pretty good solution would be the same conclusion Hank came to in the video where he eats meatless corndogs with mayonnaise. You can still eat eggs, just eat less... Less chickens, less eggs, less homicide, more awesome.
mollyhayes22 6 months ago 2
@Dbkit would make them very stressed when in the cages.
Muzlalilulelogreyfox 6 months ago
I CANT SAY THIS! Keep saying TV for Children instead of TV for Chickens.
JustWatchingVideo56 7 months ago
GNFAB!
Ravenclaw797 7 months ago
@no4macaroni The answer to what came first, the chicken or the egg is Velociraptor.
DinoTubz9638 8 months ago
everyone who is able to because of adequate space and allowed to by law ought to own a few chickens if they eat eggs frequently. i have 9 and they get to run free and eat grass in my yard, and when they start laying I'll get 9 eggs a day!!!! every family could more than cover their egg needs with that. it is an investment but chickens are beautiful and interesting and make wonderful pets if you hold them and spend time with them.
Chizpurfle52595 8 months ago
The commerical egg farms are kept dark to induce puberty and laying in the chickens, not necessarily to keep them calm.
thedustyrainbow 8 months ago
it's chicken reality TV; showing them the things they think that they could be doing if they weren't in front of the TV getting fat so the food industry can feed off of their resources.
catrulerofdeath 8 months ago
I have pet chickens :) I'd love to take them inside and get them to watch Doctor Who tomorrow, but I'm not sure my parents will agree :/
QueenOfTheAubergines 9 months ago 4
Someday I will grow up and have some chickens in my backyard and thereby help fix the world a little bit.
undeadgoat 10 months ago
this makes me feel bad about eating chickens now. I mean, I feel bad about eating pigs and cows, but now I feel bad about eating chickens too! I may yet become a vegitarian
spidermanandsnape 10 months ago
*licks toes*
klarae806 10 months ago
Chickens will rule the world one day!
relishjam 10 months ago
Two buttons!!!!!!!!
eviltravelingsarah 11 months ago 3
Like most things - grow yer own!
theveelas 11 months ago 25
OMG to John's pronounciation of Mäkipää :D
Greetings from Finland!
raisalin 11 months ago
haha! chickens who love chickens
trejivionadraculea1 11 months ago
Allegory of the Cave much?
lampposteffect 11 months ago 3
here's a question. who's gonna go extinct first? chickens or humans. and yes, this could potentially be identically as puzzling as "what came first? the chicken or the egg?" which i would also like to see answered
no4macaroni 11 months ago
@no4macaroni because there ARE more chickens in the world than humans
no4macaroni 11 months ago
No chickens. It's better to have no chickens then chickens who will have misersable lives. Unless they invent chicken counselling... DFTBA
mistyozzyrosie 11 months ago
I thought this was a video about chickens watching tv or something, not some 30 year old dude talking into a camera by himself in his basement
markky46 11 months ago
People should maybe eat a little less livestock and poultry in general. More humane practices could be instituted if we consumed less of very energy-costly meat. Then we could pursue mrcameradude69's "Secret Hidden Option 3".
deminyx713otakugod 11 months ago
A, chickens are yummy.
BrettWieckhoff 11 months ago
@CrackenX
Don't patronise me, my comments stand.
You can't wash your hands of social responsibility by donating to charity.
If Vlog brothers want to make a difference to society then start a public awareness campaign.
Encourage restaurant and cafe patrons to ASK "Where do there eggs come from, Are they from caged Birds?"
If they are caged eggs, pay for the food and send it back to the kitchen. I don't think Vlog brothers have the strength of character to make a real difference
Harryandleo 11 months ago
@Harryandleo Go away.
BrettWieckhoff 11 months ago
i really want to punch him
mattymatt2323 11 months ago
You had an opportunity to stand up against corporate greed, animal abuse and animal cruelty and you took the weakest option ... attempted cheap laughs.
Have some back bone and stand up for integrity and compassion.
You are a gutless joke.
Harryandleo 11 months ago
@Harryandleo You clearly missed his message. He's stimulating discussion about the ethicality of modern poultry farming. And he's succeeded. Just because he made a few jokes while discussing the issue doesn't mean he's not treating it with integrity. You see, 'truth resists simplicity'. While humour can be used for cruel purposes, it can also serve to enlighten.
Also, this year alone the vlogbrothers raised over $100,000 for charity. What was that you said about compassion?
CrakenX 11 months ago
It wouldn't be homicide... I'd be, like, poultracide.
VengfulX 1 year ago
That's what they need to do for the Evil Baby Orphanage; just make 'em watch hours and hours of old sitcoms.
Kikomechan 1 year ago
I disagree with the Yeti! You are a two buttons kind of guy. :D Can we get one day a week of two button guy? DFTBA
SalaciousMess 1 year ago
I choose B. Better no chickens than miserable chickens.
And c'mon how many species go extinct EVERY FRIGGN DAY because we pollute the earth so much? We haven't even explored most of them before they die out. [Sad, isn't it?]
OneRandomLeo 1 year ago
ive actually made a band ( imaginary) thanks 2 you ( in a good way) called t.v for chikens
MrXray567 1 year ago
Free the chickens. Let them live on a protected reserve to live peaceful lives!
maymay8914 1 year ago
Chickens need T.V. because, of course, they are delicious. And I want to eat them.
oompalord 1 year ago
In my own opinion, chickens should not be in the world cos A) They scare the frick out of me. Seriously, I have a massive phobia of them. I sound like a wuss but whatever. B) Erm, my second point is the same as the first. They are scary :/
MsIdontmakevideos 1 year ago
amazing
what about free range?
parasole42 1 year ago
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parasole42 1 year ago
Are those really our only two options? If those are the only two options than I think it's better to keep the chickens and let them watch their TV. But I would like more chickens (and other food animals for that matter) to not just have to settle for watching their dreams on TV, like most humans do in my opinion, but to have a chance to live those dreams themselves. I wish this for humans and chickens alike. I guess in some ways humans and chickens aren't so different.
longhairgreeneyes 1 year ago
i'd take chicken tv over no chickens anyday. whatever it takes to make the chickens happy and in the end i still get to eat them (i know that sounds mean, but i don't eat many vaegatables... i'd be very hungry and sad with no chickens)
ginnyvideo 1 year ago
in watching this video, it occurred to me that the word homicidal, when broken down to its latin roots, means the killing of man. so, using my slight knowledge of latin, i came up with gallicide from gallus- the latin word for rooster. it turns out that i was only slightly off: the term for the killing of chickens or turkeys is gallinicide. gallicide is also a real word, though meaning the killing of fowls.
adarosefairy 1 year ago
This made me laugh ssoooo much :')
nathan13x 1 year ago
I was just reading about chickens in a bird book today!
Anyone who owns chickens and knows anything about them knows that chickens are smart and each one is its own individual. They need to be treated well. First of all, humans need to learn to eat less meat. Especially in America, we eat too much. It's not healthy and not environmental (Or often ethical considering the way meat animals are treated). But those animals that we do eat need to live the best possible lives while they're around.
ferngirltlc 1 year ago
Homicidal Chickens would be a great name for a band.
wizardwithabox 1 year ago
ahhhhhhHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhHHHHHHhhhhhhh lol that totally got my attention :D
jjmonman 1 year ago
Here's another question to follow up on that last one.
No more "Why did the chicken cross the road jokes" -'cause y'know no kid will know what a chicken is unless they take biology/anatomy of historical creatures-
or
A world in which chickens turkeys and any other breed animal that has a tendency to commit homicide / accidental homicide (which I find hilarious) are brainwashed and trained (for lack of a better word) to be... Awesome to one another.
Your Choice.
TheAllKnowingTribute 1 year ago
i agree with the answer at 2:36
the one were we would have chickens
mrluvs2spooge1 1 year ago
This makes me a very, very sad nerdfighter. :( I'm a vegetarian, and this is why. Chicken farms. Cow farms. Aminal farms. (yes, aminal) It's cruel. Absolutly cruel.
RaNdOmchik13000 1 year ago
Umm, yeah. Chickens roam free in Kawai where they have gon feral because they have no natural enemies, there.
lsolrac 1 year ago
Curious, has KFC set up a nation's worth of branches there?
TheAllKnowingTribute 1 year ago
chickens are too tastey to give up
fearspork 1 year ago
a world with less chickens, all of which are free range. And I wonder if the woman showed them other tv shows to test if they are responding to seeing chickens or just to watching tv in general.
InnocenceExperience 1 year ago
mmm...i love these turkeynuggets... beefnuggets... porknuggets... lambnuggets... vealnuggets... ostrichnuggets... buffalonuggets... same reason why americans won't eat cats or dogs...chickens will be the next pet craze *_*
matthewlorXIII 1 year ago
Do you ever shut your mouth?
4ppeltj3 1 year ago
Whoa whoa whoa! How dare you over simplify Van Gough's Starry Starry Night! Dude, the hell.
Ashley963123 1 year ago
no chickens. definitely.
waterdragonflyyy 1 year ago
Ummm... the Red Junglefowl, a South East Asian species of pheasant that includes all varieties of domesticated chicken, still thrives in the wild. So, no need to worry about the species, just possibly some of the boring, bloated, in-bred varieties we raise for food.
reallysmartguy 1 year ago
So there I was, on the brink of vegetarianism, and now I've listened to you, and o.O.
Actually, I'm still confused. I thought I wasn't anymore, but that was a lie. It seems like we're still pretty ridiculously mean to chickens. So putting myself in the place of the chickens, would I prefer a world in which all of humanity was being tormented or a world in which humanity was extinct? I think the tormented one. But we should watch out for a chicken uprising. It could happen. Maybe. >.>
BeeHermione911 1 year ago
@BeeHermione911 [ Hey! You're going to be a vegetarian! Vegan or vegetarian.(vegans don't eat any dairy products) I am just a vegetarian but we get are eggs from people that own a few chickens and have extra eggs. I get my milk from a local dairy farm. Oh, and we can easly inbreed the chickens to get them back to their wild state.
supervegetariangeek 1 year ago
@supervegetariangeek thanks for the info =]
BeeHermione 1 year ago
My, a bit past the question of the "chicken or the egg," aren't we?
GraceMccThe1st 1 year ago
In a world without chickens, what will all our video game characters kick?
AutoF0cus 1 year ago
Chickens are my very favourite animals, so I want them to exist, and I want them to be happy!
lotsabots 1 year ago
Stop creating evil chickens, battery farmers of the world. I beg of you.
Get selectively breeding some 'survival characteristics' back into the species. Chickens are awesome and we are driving them from the planet.
Damn commercial demands.
harryfreshify 1 year ago
Wouldn't chickens killing other chickens be poultricide, not homicide? Just wondrin'
BTW aww, cramped chickens are cramped!
CharlieRosek 1 year ago
We should breed the chickens to have natural defenses again, then stop driving them to murder.
TheNatTran 1 year ago
its better to be then not to be
ianmauche 1 year ago
you said "and etcetera". The original and is unnecissary.
GeorgeHeidbreder 1 year ago
i vote we just aught to have homicidal chickens
elwoodbluesification 1 year ago
you are a two-buttons-kind-of-guy :D
emilyyloveeyouu 1 year ago 5
I thought you were talking about some Japanese lady because the name sounded all goofy and silly. Then you said "Finnish" and I thought: "Hmm.. I'm Finnish. Should I be getting something?" And then I got it. You speaking Finnish is a hoot!
anni6261 1 year ago
You could argue that the questions raised about tv for chickens could also be asked about tv for humanity. And wild chickens still do exist you know.
JuJuLiams 1 year ago
I'm in a band called TV for Chickens!
skatenotwar 1 year ago 2
@skatenotwar So am I! Oh wait... Same band sorry.
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skatenotwar 1 year ago
2 buttons ftw
4ndiland 1 year ago
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timmakey 1 year ago
I say a world where chickens run free is the best! :)
kweezykins 1 year ago
1) TV for chickens should have a laughtrack
2) homicidal chickens just save you the job of killing them.. they should teach them how to deep-fry their victims
3) I love chicken, but I wouldn't mind if they went extinct. although if we can breed all their natural defense mechanisms out of them, we could also breed their ability to feel pain or anger or anything bad.. if they're just on a cage, why do they need such a complex brain?
pete275 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
who gives a fuck about chicken?
PorkIsHalal 2 years ago
For the first time in our one sided relationship, we are in a giant fight.
This answer is so easy, and one in which I feel that any kind, human, intelligent nerd fighter would agree with.
A world without cruelty trumps all. Id rather there be no chicken than a tortured one.
zullamonster 2 years ago
Instead of tv for chickens they should actually let those poor chickens experience the world outside for themselves. They would still give us eggs and meat it just would be more healthier that is all. They deserve to live a good life in the sunshine after all they will be sacrificing their lives for us so the least we can do is let them enjoy the 4 years they get to live. My 2 chickens are going on 8 yrs.
chickenmom 2 years ago
By sourcing your chickens from a farm where they're well cared for you can boycott large intensive chicken farms where they're mistreated.
chocolatecauldrons 2 years ago
what if we let chickens walk around and peck at the ground and do chicken stuff
megahappypinkskitty 2 years ago
I say Secret Hidden Option 3 - organic eggs and organically reared chickens, with no TV and access to chicken activities such as pecking the ground and seeing the sunlight.
I know - gasp! - surely there's no such thing?! There is. Trust me. It only costs a little more and you get to feel good about the non-murderous nature of the animal you're eating.
mrcameradude69 2 years ago 60
@mrcameradude69 It's worth noting that the photographs I showed were taken at cage-free, organic egg farms.
If you let chickens peck at the ground and see sunlight, you cannot grow as many eggs in America as people in America want to eat. The size of our egg appetite NECESSITATES inhuman farming practices.
Unless you are growing your own chickens and eating their eggs (or buying eggs from someone you know), they live in conditions like what you see in this video. -John
vlogbrothers 1 year ago 60
@vlogbrothers John--As newly minted backyard chicken owners ourselves, we wouldn't discount the "unless you are growing your own chickens and eating their eggs" option so quickly. It's definitely doable, even in suburbia. So far the five of them are less maintenance per animal than a dog, a bit more than a cat. :) Just sayin'.
shebalou 1 year ago
@vlogbrothers but they wont go extinct! you silly... = )
just for the record:
I like having cheap chicken in the store. And do not care if the chicken species are destroyed to keep it that way (It would be really hard for that to happen).
alexsouls1 1 year ago
@vlogbrothers
I disagree. We vote with every purchase we make in a supermarket, or farmer's market, or by paying a neighbour with naturally reared outdoor chickens for their eggs. If enough people demand organic eggs, and the term 'organic' demands high welfare standards to be used, more chicken farms using organic methods will by neccessity be created to supply this demand.
Are you telling me there's seriously not enough land in USA to support this?? They really don't require that much space.
mrcameradude69 1 year ago
@mrcameradude69 actually its not about land. Growing things ungenetically engineered/organic doesn't create a large enough output to sustain neither the farmer nor the consumer. The ratio of farmer to ppl is ridiculous, and the number of farms is shrinking. As Hank has mentioned, making 1 pound of beef takes a lot of resources, adding hormones and stuff which have no effect on the final product, actually decreases the amount of resources for that pound of beef, i assume the same is for chickens
Jessica6119 1 year ago
@vlogbrothers That is why I have my own chickens. They eat dirt and bugs and can see the sky and they poop, everywhere! Chickens just don't care who is watching. When it's time to go, they go.
KayakFisher01 1 year ago
@vlogbrothers John, Which is why to the non-rhetorical question I can only answer- a world with no chickens at all. I *think* the FDA has "cage free" at 11 sq. inches per chicken. I am stopping right now as this is my soapbox issue and could turn radically ugly in a flash. Thanks for this vid, hits a major spot for me. DFTBA (and vegan too!)!
phoebexanne 10 months ago
sounds lame but isn't
big-fan
bumby15 2 years ago
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Walderro 2 years ago
@bumby15 - And I would like to appologize to you for accidently disliking your comment because it is above the other guy's. Whoops.
Walderro 2 years ago
TV for chickens.
Sorry, I'm kind of Human centric and dig the whole maintaining a healthy food crop.
trapjohnson 2 years ago
@trapjohnson - I would like to appologize for disliking your comment a little too quickly. While I feel rather strongly about saving the chickens from their horribal chicken hell, I must acknowledge that it is not a bad thing to be more concerned about people than chickens.
Walderro 2 years ago
-is Finnish- I'm not gonna go into the wrongful pronunciation of Tea "Makipaa" but you might wanna correct the spelling of her last name, it's Mäkipää.
LOL xD I'm so sorry for knit picking!
DharmaTheGal 2 years ago
there are homisidle chickans I did not know that(sorry I cant spell)
megahappypinkskitty 2 years ago
"You're just not a two-button kinda guy."
HAHA!!
That's classic.
regularguy5mb 2 years ago 2
The answer is fairly obvious: buy freerange eggs and chicken meat. This means vastly improved lives for the chickens and far fewer ethical issues.
DylanFreak263 2 years ago 3
1:23 OH, SNAP. John, did you just make a snarky comment toward my one true love Vincent van Gogh? If so, PREPARE TO BE SHUNNED.
JustMargaret 2 years ago
we may breed chickens because they taste good, but we also inject them all sorts of stuff (just like all other farmed meats). We as humans will give ourselves cancer from all this chemical modification.
Jyhwei0507 2 years ago 14
but it taste soooo good
MrWaterdragon08 2 years ago
Did you say 'frackin'?
Hahaha...Do you watch Battlestar Galactica, or was that a coincidence?
MaggieIsMango 2 years ago
I agree with you in the "chickens-would-go-extinct-if-we-didn't-need-them" part. Same goes with sheep. An animal which jumps off the nearest cliff when startled (and sheep tend to get startled often) wouldn't outsmart natural selection if men didn't invent fences. In fact, eating meat saves animals. Vegans, you are sick murderers.
Kokorisu 2 years ago 2
I wonder how muc time you would do for killing chickens? Like if you went to a chicken farm with a machine gun and shot a bunch of chickens, how much trouble would you be in?
KageMinowara 2 years ago
Well, at a chicken farm it would be like destryoing someone means of living. That farmer gets income from selling chickens so you would have to pay a bunch of money in damages but I'm not sure if you would get charged with animal cruelty because they are menat to be killed and eaten and already have "crap lives"...
spatchjr 2 years ago
Like I always say something worth doing is worth doing badly and I consider living something worth doing.
Matsuifan13 2 years ago
Surely a homiciidal chicken is one that kills humans? What would it be to kill chickens... umm... hen-icidal maybe?
InTheWash 2 years ago
i could not live in a world witth no chickens! good god!
chinkitichynna 2 years ago
For a second I was disappointed at not seeing a clip from TV for Chickens until I realized it would just be chickens running around doing chicken stuff.
Travesty1 2 years ago
I was still a bit disappointed, cause I wanted to see the chickens watching the chickens on tv, very cute and funny!
4Selah 2 years ago
homicidal aggression is what make a man stand for what he beleives.
AndrewKH85 2 years ago
i prefer the third, unspoken option, a world where people ate free-range chickens and associated egg products. it's less intensive, better for the chickens and better for your egg-related cholesterol levels as the higher prices will encourage reduced consumption of eggs/chicken meat. i also promise that organic, free-range chicken is much more awesome tasting than homicidal intensively-reared chicken.
cretin76 2 years ago 3
THINK OF THE CHICKENS!!!
SeanMusicFreak 2 years ago
a world with no chickens at all
ablemouse 2 years ago
hahaha homicidal chickens
shanaram 2 years ago
Haha, it's so funny when you try to pronounce Tea Mäkipää :D. I'm Finnish by the way - if not obvious ;).
sirionful 2 years ago
Uh, chicken TV! duh! What else would I eat if murderous chickens were gone? pssh, stupid...
ExtorpidsSuits 2 years ago
Pimp My Coop. MTV Chicken coops.
deethecat5 2 years ago 2
Ahahaha, you are so hilarious John. Giant squids of anger!
I'd rather chickens be free-ranging. And I'm not convinced that they would become extinct if we stopped breeding them for food. I definitely don't want them to be extinct!
saikogrrl 2 years ago 2
Uhh.... The first one? Can I has cookie now?
FlameSpartan 2 years ago
Did he say chicken's for tv dinners?
goobectomy 2 years ago
Has anyone read Plato's A Allegory of the Cave? This is like the creepy variation of the story... but... with...chickens...
AxleJames 2 years ago 2
As a small time chicken famer (meat and egg), I have to disagree that they would go extinct. There are breeds that are less reliant on extinct but most are quite capable of dealing with life outdoors and all it entails like most birds.
omchomsky 2 years ago 2
I agree, plus there are too many chicken hobbyists who keep chickens for show or for eggs/meat or even as pets.
HealingPrimRose 2 years ago
...she was right.
Tiggerlen 2 years ago
aw world with tv for chickens.......
av3rageteenbeauty 2 years ago
Chickens are really good. I'd rather have TV for chickens where chickens...yada yada yada.
Anyone can be a two button guy, John. I think you can pull it off.
dougfr007 2 years ago
We must have chicken. It is like all I eat. I dont eat red meat, so please do not take my chicken away from me. :(
HorrorMovieJunkie 2 years ago
CHICKENZ RULE....
LUSCIOUSDDJA 2 years ago
Sounds like chickes of the Allegory of the Cave.
Silvia1826 2 years ago
The real question is: are the chickens evolving into humans? I mean... they're on the path. No natural light, addicted to television, kept in enclosed areas until they turn homicidal. What is the world coming to when we brainwash the chickens to be us?!
SamtheViciousZebra 2 years ago
A world with no chickens at all, definitely. The wild chicken is already dead, if there ever was such a thing, or else lives on in grouse and quail and the like. We have to let go. Change is a part of the natural order of the Earth; it's when we try to hold on to things by, for example, stifling wildfires until California became an annual tinderbox, that we really screw them up.
And I love it when you tell us Stories of the Yeti. :)
nerdra 2 years ago
haha the yeti's comment
cloebaby97 2 years ago
it is then ironic that today's television makes me want to kill someone.
Praseodymium59 2 years ago
LOL on the Yeti's comment!! LOL
foolabaloney 2 years ago
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