What I like about Eddie in comparison to other Jiujitsu instructors I've had in the past is how he emphasizes on offense. I know that BJJ was made for defense and all that, but until I was introduced to Eddie's system, I was thinking defensively with my jiujitsu and I think that's what makes getting certain submissions difficult. I mean, as long as you don't position your hands in a certain way on the ground, you can't get a submission locked. With Eddie, he finds way to do so offensively.
I think eventually submissions from guard down position are going to be ultra rare in MMA. Guys are getting to the point now where they just won't lay in your guard if you have a good submission game off your back. Or they just have such good submission defense that they can't be set up.
You have a lot of talent but you are a douche. And one easy ass way to avoid rubber guard? Posture the fuck up. Every bravo man I've competed with had no guard as long as I postured. It's especially easier to avoid all this in no gi.
@shogun996 Rubber guard is based off controlling your opponent's posture. It's almost impossible to posture up when someone who actually knows how to do it does it. My guess is that you competed with someone who has an extremely bad rubber guard.
Mission Control=Possibly can back out
New York=Can't back out anymore
Chill dog/Invisible collar=You're not going anywhere
@rangedat Actually I agree with you. Once you're caught in something it is hard to get out. But usually if I know the guy has a nasty rubber guard I avoid his guard altogether.
@sophiemaggie1 I totally agree with you... I'm an honor type of martial artist and I've seen and heard SO many people bad mouth Eddie for being egotistical/cocky/pothead etc... mainly because its so easy to misconstrue his personality... but in all reality the man is genuine and confident. I look forward to starting from scratch at his school in Burbank.. 10th Planet in October.
YOU CAN TELL HE JUST HIT THE CRACK PIPE BEFORE THE VIDEO...
ID LIKE TO SEE HIM GET RAPED BY 4 GRIMEY MEXICANS WITH H.I.V. IN FRONT OF ANY KIDS HE MIGHT HAVE.... THEN HAVE HIS MOM PUT A SHOTGUN IN HER MOUTH AND BLOW HER FUCKING BRAINS OUT BECAUSE OF HER POOR PARENTING!
HIS JUJITSU SUCKS SHIT... I DONT KNOW WHY HIS NAME EVEN GETS MENTIONED..
why do people think the rubber guard sucks? it's just like every other guard. they're all good. they all have their place. sure, some are used more often but the more you know, the more you'll be prepared. set-ups like the helicopter armbar might only work 1% of the time, but that 1% might be the finals match of a tournament. learn everything you can, even if you think it sounds stupid give it a chance.
this is a smart man!! the football part he knows exactly what hes talking about speed kills.. new system get away with it for a while but overall speed kills!! preach it eddie!
the reason rubber guard isnt used that much is its only been around or like 10 years so it hasnt caught on yet jiu jitsu took 70 years for it to catch on eventualy the rubber guard will
the perfect defense to eddie's rubber guard is to just jam your elbows into his thighs. this would force eddie to unlock his legs and release the rubber guard position. or am i wrong?
@KYNCarena no... and I'm not a huge fan of him (like his stuff and do use it though)
you are assuming that the pain from that pressure point is going to make him not want to take the pain... but I've rolled with guys that just have this "damn that hurt.... if you keep that up for the next week I might start caring about it" attitude tht just end pressure point passes and other things like that...
depends where your posture is at when the rubber guard is pulled, or if your arms have freedom of movement, once the guard is locked down you have to counter his moves instead of forcing.the thing i find is that guys think you can hold someone in it forever,no way!!! its to break posture buy you time and to set up,as soon as he transitions and your aware of the differnt stages thats when you make ya move.its an awesome guard but not unbeatable, nothing works 100% each time
Soooo true about wrestling. Thats why I didnt like it that much. It gave me a big upper hand in my bjj game but in my opinion, wrestling gets old, quick.
yes.. unlike people think, its actually easy to choke someone even if he has just t-shirt on. Choking someone with t-shirt is like choking with nylon thread... very fast.
And you wont be barefoot, groingaurded and wearing shorts.
I support no gi- but this is literally the opposite reason for it. Using the persons clothing to your advantage is huge on the street. No gi benefits the rules of mma.
hey is it best to start in gi jiu-jitsu than transfer over to nogi because im wanting to do mma and im thinking of getting like a brown belt and go over to 10th planet which would be better to strt out with, nogi or gi?
I rarely ever rolled with the gi since I started training in jiujitsu and most people are fairly impressed with my skills.
Most of the jiujitsu old-timers who started out training with the gi, only did so because that was all that was available.
If you want to do no-gi, don't waste any of your time training in a gi. It is just a completely different game and half the moves don't work in no-gi.
The Gi opens up more moves which makes a person think more. If ya have to worry about being choked out while having a Gi yer less likely to make stupid and sloppy mistakes. Take off the Kimono and the fear of being caught by a lapel choke is gone but yer still very focused on the other person. I don't like rolling in a Gi but I've noticed a difference.
sakoyo has a valid opinion, but just keep in mind, most of the best no gi guys in the world like marcelo garcia and andre galvao, roger gracie, jacare, only train no gi once a week, where they train gi the other 6 days. i find it to be more of a thinking game, and you dont get to rely on strength and speed as much as timing and technique. just my 2 cents
That is only because most BJJ schools and most BJJ practitioners train in the gi and the 10th planet schools make up a minority of the overall BJJ market. Also most of the guys you've mentioned are professional competitors, which means they made a life investment in BJJ. That is completely different from recreational practitioners who only have time to train once or twice a week.
i do see your point, in the minority/majority thing, we'll see how prokopos does against cobrinha or the top guys in his division then ill buy into the no-gi only thing. anyway, recreational practitioners will probably suck either way 1-2 times a week? congratson being a white belt for 5 years. i just findits harder to do things with the gi on (passing escapes etc.) and without the gi thats just less things you haveto worry about, hey but diff'rnt strokes right? i just try to be as good as i can
It is not something you need to buy into, it is just common sense. Only an idiot would have a hard time seeing that someone who heavily specializes in the no-gi game would have a distant advantage in no-gi competition over someone who spends half their time training in the gi.
hah, do you train or what? common sense doesnt apply to all kidns of things especially in any kind of martial arts. in striking arts, the first thing is not to get hit, common sense says dodge, but sometimes its more advantageous to get hitso you can push through, or slip punches instead of dodging, getting closer to a swinging opponent isnt common sense neither is pushing and stacking for an armbar escape, but it works, its jsut the 10th planet guys want all this respect, but noone gets respect
until theyre proven at the highest level, especially if its supposed to "revolutionize jiu jitsu" but hey, im not trying to start an argument, we can agree to disagree here, i train my way and you train your way.
most bjj schools all start with gi with the option later on. if your just really into mma go to an mma school. jj and mma jj are 2 very different things. its a whole new world when someones raining punches down on you
Most MMA schools are jokes thats why I started Boxing and now train in a BJJ school. I agree that there is a big difference when punches are gettin thrown but with a solid BJJ background a person can dominate in MMA as long as their a decent striker.
If all you want with the Jiu Jitsu is to do MMA than do no-gi, but your limiting your ground game considerably. Don't see the Gi as a tool that you use but as a tool someone else uses which makes you work on posture and balance, important basics of BJJ. Stick with just gi until blue belt and then you will see what your game will develop into and go from there. Remember eddie trained alot with gi up untill brown belt before it focused on no gi and he wouldn't be where he was without it.
bushpilot99, your opinion doesn't any sense. How is not learning techniques that rely on the gi limit my ground game if you can't use these techniques in no-gi competition anyways. Also posture, balance, and basic jiujitsu can be developed just by training regardless of if the gi is there or not. Eddie only trained with the gi back in the day because that was all that was available, that doesn't mean that he would not have been able to develop his game if he did not train with the gi.
The point I was trying to make was benifit is made not just by learning techniques that rely on the gi but also "defending" against said techniques. Roll with someone with you wearing gi and them no gi and you'll see my point. To become a "stronger" all around "grappler" you need all the tools you can get.. No gi is great, and I do it every so often the same as gi. Limiting yourself to one school of thought on grappling IS very limiting. Each has strengths and weaknesses.
If someone asked me which would I rather be, gi or no gi, I couldn't answer it because I'm more a student of grappling not just student of BJJ. Grappling is a science and BJJ is a great branch of it, but there is so many other unique arts which shore up each others weakness; some using a gi and some not. Each are valid and should be looked at; not disregarded for having techniques you don't like but excepted for techniques that you do. Keep on rolling.
@SakoYo I used to be inclined to agree with you, but after training primarily no-gi and making the switch to a predominantly gi game in the past few months, my game has improved noticeably. When you have a gi on, you have to be worried about defending hundreds of more submissions than are available no-gi. Material slows things down, it forces you to have good hips, which is the crucible of grappling.
@SakoYo I'm not trying to take away from no-gi and 10th Planet, but the facts don't lie: all of the best BJJ practioners and MMA fighters train(ed) with the gi. Look at Marcelo Garcia- no one is more accomplished than him in ADCC, which is a no-gi event, yet he insists on the importance of training in the gi every day.
i don't know that much about BJJ yet, but one thing is obvious, training with something that isn't going to help you in competition or in a real self defense situation, doesn't make much sense.
@MMAenthusiastUHHE You're right, at first glance, it doesn't make any sense. But read what I said earlier. In no-gi, there are like 5 submissions that you have to be worried from in mount. You get sweaty and slip out of holds more easily. With a gi on, there are tons more submission opportunities to defend from. If you can defend yourself mounted in a gi, you will be able to no-gi. Just because you all of a sudden don't have material doesn't make you a fish out of water.
I agree with you on that, a gi it helps you to learn more moves, counters, and keeps you sharp, but as far as practicality goes, no gi is more practical for me because in a real match or fight you're gonna sweat and it will become a factor, and people on the streets don't wear a gi. The late and great Bruce Lee always preached about how Martial Arts should be practical and effective.
@MMAenthusiastUHHE Sorry for 2 replies, but continuing, in no-gi sweat and slipperyness are a big factor. You can get lucky and escape a good position or submission by slipping out from all the sweat. With the gi on, no one is getting out because they are slippery. The only way you'll escape is with good technique. The gi refines your techniques and doesn't let you cut corners. My 2 cents. Don't make the mistake I made, train your gi BJJ from the beginning. Good luck with everything
And what you said about cutting corners, I don't agree with that because, when you have no gi you also can't use it to help you out, so it balances out. Both styles have their advantages and disadvantages.
BJJ is a great sport, no doubt about it, but I'm more attracted to submission grappling because it's more fight oriented and watching MMA is what got me into grappling lessons.
@MMAenthusiastUHHE training in the gi helps mma fighters win matches, there are very few champions that dont train in the gi. bj penn black belt in the gi, anderson silva black belt, machida blackbelt, frank mir black belt. the facts are there. find me 10 champions that have won adcc or ufc championships. trust the facts, fighters that train in the gi win most of the time, eddie bravo has never won adcc, he caught someone who has and got famous.
Yes, but a lot of those guys who used to train in the gi are now saying it is useless. Frank Mir has said it, Aoki has said it, Dean Lister: its goes on and on. What about guys like Jake Shields and Randy Couture? They seem to do ok on the ground, and with no real foundation in the gi at all. Just face it: the gi does NOT make you better at Nogi or MMA. This is a fact.
agreed, though the gi does have its uses. such as getting used to grappling with extra weight and rolling when uncomfortable. or how to move against friction caused by your and the opponents material. getting used to being gripped and pulled is an advantage from a self defence point of view as is using opponents clothes for leverage in the right spots. doing nogi set ups with a gi is great for learning technique when sweaty..it has its uses but very limited at an advanced level
I've choked a guy out in a pub with a collar choke after he walked up and knocked me off a bar stool with a sucker punch. He woke up thinking he had won the fight. The Gi and NoGi argument is as useful and beneficial as the chicken and egg argument. They both work, but a Gi guy can take his jacket off and easily modify his game. The NoGi guy puts the jacket on and would be lost (if he has never trained Gi). It took me months to get used to a Gi after wrestling for 10 yrs.
Why would you get a brown belt somewhere else (which will take you years) and THEN go to 10th Planet? Wouldn't you want great instruction from the get-go?
He may not have ever achieved the accolades of some of the elite top level grapplers, but the man is an amazing teacher and professor of the no-gi jiu-jitsu.
THe only prob i have with eddie is he has no proof of rubber gaurd. he never promoted one black belt, and none of his fighters have ever used the rubber gaurd successfully in MMA, watch the rubber guards in MMA, usually peope posture right out of it and get knocked out, Not to mention Joe rogan has a fukin orgasm everytime someone pull rubberguard or Rubbergaurd omaplata
shinya aoki and nick diaz both used the rubber guard for their gogoplata submissions, I've seen some guys use the rubber guard in MMA. dustin hazelet use it beutifully in ufc 91 og 92 I think, his reversed armbar with a omoplata setup(sound awesome). also seen mir and bj penn use the rubber guard and the jailbreak for instants. robert drysdale also uses it. I've pulled gogoplata with it. there is plenty of proof of the rubber guard and eddie's system.
it did not look like nick diAZ USED THE RUBBER GUARD ADGAINST GOMI BUT HE DID GET HIM IN A GOGO DUSTIN HAZELET IS MY IDOL FOR MMA FIGHTER EDDIE IS MY IDOL JITS FIGHTERS LOL
That's absolutely true. actually its who ever is more powerful has the edge in a fight. That's if both opponents are at the same skill level. (strength+speed=Power)
he said if they are the same skill level... most guys seem to say conditioning (wide term) will be the deciding factor if both fighters skill (inc technique) levels are the same
"power" is a big factor, also conditioning, but if one has better technique 8 out of 10 times he will win, ive come across this scenario many times wrestling.
I think that learning both versions of the same style is a great thing. It really opens up the competition levels you could compete at. You could compete at the Mundials and the ADCC competition as well. Id really like to see the same guy win that in the same year, that guy would be a mad BJJ practitioner
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immediately i hear at :35, "No one says Im explosive, I made my name on tricks" If that doesnt discredit his entire practice of the martial art of jujitsu and his system, then the legit world of bjj will keep sinking as long he keeps recruiting students.
I think you are reading into the 'tricks' comment too much. Obviously he refers to following a set of techniques that the traditional BJJ establishment isn't/wasn't using in order to get his submissions. No more and nothing less.
obviously he means moves or actions that deceive the opponent and give him an opening, not tricks like cheating, cmon man anyone with common sense can figure this out
@judohuevos If you think of Jiu Jitsu as a defensive art, it's not about how athletic you are. It's about what you know, compared to what your opponent knows. Jiujitsu is a great way for a smaller, weaker opponent to defeat a bigger, stronger opponent.
Posture is keeping your base low and solid while keeping a solid straight back and keeping your neck and head out of easy reach for your opponent. I'd advise you to look up bjj posture on youtube. It's an extremely important fundamental of jiu-jitsu, gi or no gi.
eddie is good but i believe that people that training with gi has more facilites to escape and get more resistence i know he won roger gracie but right after he lost for a gi guy wich was leo vieira, and most of the winner on adcc are people that use gi so when you training wich gi you get heavy and when you take out you feel much lighter and fast
First it was Royler. Which most of all the gracies train Gi. Second most all the competors in Abu Dabi are from "traditional" schools so they have ALL trained Gi. Eddie is from Gi. He train with the Machados for a long time before choosing to do No-Gi. The transition from gi to no-gi is harder then its made out to be. You dont have handles and its alot faster then the methodical gi game. I belive if you take a BB out of the gi and have him roll with a nogi guy at the same level nogi will win 99%
If we're talking straight submission grappling, most all the top players at ADCC are gi most of the time and no gi some of the time.
Dean Lister, Marcelo Garcia, Jacare, Roger Gracie, Drysdale...hell even BJ Penn, GSP and the Camarillo Bros. are 'mostly' gi.
As for the comment about people in the street not wearing gis - you realize a sweatshirt can act as a gi, right? And that most people wear pants? That's really no different than a gi, except it's easier to grab.
also remember Bravos style of JJ is deigned around MMA competition and street so MMA street people don't wear GIs. And in MMA street people can hit you so his style is designed to help you from getting hit.
Still, I think Eddie has the coolest bjj system on the planet. And even though he emphasizes on no-gi, of course we all know it doesn't mean they can't be used in gi. Gi or no-gi, I always go for rubber guard and/or twister side control if it's there. And as he says in his books, an armbar is still an armbar, and a triangle is still a triangle.
Well, I yes and no agree with no-gi philosophy. Some people have said that training with the gi, it's more technical and it helps you prepare more for escapes in no-gi situations because of the holds. Granted you can hold with the gi, but you have to put in more effort and strategy to escape, and with no-gi, those handles aren't there and helps you better. I'm sure you all know that Cole Miller recently credited training in the gi to set up his triangle against Gurgel.
The games are fundamentally different. I should know, I've been training nonstop for a nogi tournament but entered a small gi tournament to "warm up". I lost to a gi submission. The moral is, know what you're training for.
I could really see how you would have trouble training no gi for a while and then having to adjust back to the gi chokes. It seems the thing for me thats hardest going from gi to no gi is just having less friction. It always seems like some things are harder without the gi like remembering that darce chokes slip in quicker and some stuff is easier like not having to break grips from arm drags and such. I like to do both so I don't loose the feel for each but I never have a hard time adjusting
The Gi and No Gi is pretty much based on the Gi tops. Gi bottoms are almost the same as wearing shorts. I personally never wear shorts. I always wear my gi pants to stay away from slippage.
Than why do a majority of abu dabi rave about the Gi??? Because their right. Why do you think Roger and Marcello train 6out of 7 days gi and 1 no gi??
the gi is great. nogi is great. They are different games and you don't need one to do the other. As for MG, he now trains 1.5 hrs gi and 1.5 hours nogi a day, so his outlook has changed as he knows the importance of playing the nogi game and that he doesn't have handles to hold onto.
I know there are different things from gi to no gi but most is the same. Marcelo Garcia said its too confusing to have a gi and no gi game. He said the difference is small adjustments. I just really don't agree that the gi top makes such a difference. If it was a problem like Eddie Bravo has said there wouldn't be tons of ADCC champs coming directly from the gi. Everyone can have they're opinion but I just prefer to train the way most ADCC champs do, with the gi a majority of the time.
Yeah man, I went from training no gi for almost a year.. Then started doing gi grappling and I got my ass kicked a few times and was like WHAT THE HELL!? The gi really does make a big difference if you never go with it then try going against someone who's been training with gi. But yeah, i'm trying to get used to training with the gi now, ugh.
Gi and nogi are different but I still am a proponent on gi training especially for a beginner. The gi teaches you to protect your neck and use more technique instead of brute strength that you can get away with in nogi and gi as well but not as much. Once you have trained with a kimono for a year or two I highly suggest training nogi and youll notice your game with actually be more technical and fluid.
Everyone's got an opinion...that is for sure! Apples and oranges in my opinion. Do whatever makes you happy or what you think will improve your game. If you think it will make you more 'technical', then go for it. Personally, I don't but it doesn't mean the gi game is useless (it isn't of course).
I think Eddie's jiu jitsu is very good and unique but I gotta go with Marcelo Garcia.He has said that in order to have the finest technique you have to train with the gi. He also said its too confusing to have a gi game and a seperate no gi game.He has said that the difference is just small adjustments.I just really think Marcelo knows alot more about the differences between no gi and gi games since hes won world titles in both.Eddie is good but has he ever won a large competition at black belt?
Maybe... When he does he'll just market it and claim that he has sick moves. He's a pot head, that's it. I'd like to see him compete in Black Belt at Mundials, and I am pretty sure those Gi guys will hand his ass to him.
eddie bravo made the rubber guard famous, his no-gi game is sick. he hasnt won anything recently but his win over royler gracie is good enough, dont hate on eddie because you cant use the rubber guard lol
Ronaldo "Jacare" is a grappling monster,a submission master,but,in his grappling match against Randy Couture he couldnt do anything with him.The match actually went to a draw and Randy is 40somethin'past his prime and doesnt train in a Gi.Point being,I dont feel you need to start with a Gi,and I'm a Gi-fighter!
i've read a few comments on this vid saying you HAVE to have the GI to learn. yeah thats right if you wanna grapple with a GI on. but u dont NEED a GI to learn how too grapple. GI grappling is easier as you constantly have the grips. control is easier, subs are easier. NO GI i believe is better as u dont have the GI to depend on. GI also doesnt translate well to the NO gi game 100% of the time. i believe its the reverse. to be better a grappling WITH a GI. trying doing it without first.
agreed! completely agree totally. i personnelly think nogi is harder then gi grappling. its faster and harder to get grips and postions. thanks for your reply man!
Im gunna have to go with Marcelo Garcia on this one. Marcelo Garcia said in order to have the finest technique you need to train with the gi. He is probably the best pund for pound grappler and he trains only one day a week without a gi. Im sure you can get very good at no gi just training without it but it seems you miss things with and without the gi.
I'm not MMA fighter, but you can tell from Bravo's approach to Jiu Jitsu...practical, no-nonsense, and obviously loaded with experience and insight...that he's an expert student and teacher. Probably a master.
My ex coach loves eddie bravo and his philosphy, and we would clash quite often on EB opinion but, its a healthy discussion.I am not sure if I agree with him on his theories but he puts good used to his philosophy I guess.If the gi and no gi aren't the same then why are the top gi guys at competitive level the same top people at no gi. Roger, Jacare, Marcelo, Werdum, Xande, Saulo, Margarida, Cobrinha. I do admire eddie bravo, but his game is a bit to flashy for me. Each to there own I guess.
I also disagree with some of his radical no-gi view, to learn you gotta have a gi, you need to learn the basics, before the advanced, and gi-game might not be the same as no-gi, but you can't learn submission and other moves properly without a gi, 9/10 you get a guy with the conventional moves, armbar, choke, kimura, you only do ninja moves when you have to and the timing is right, love the teachings of the submission101 guys, but EB game is a little too dependent of athletic instead of technic
I would disagree. To learn submission grappling you do NOT need a gi (look at catch wrestlers, shooto guys, and 1000's of nogi guys, plus MMA fighters that have never worn one in their lives but are so good). Getting conventional moves without the gi is still possible and no one is saying that nogi guys don't use basics. See video of EB talking about the basics!!! As EB says in this video, he is NOT athletic and in fact, the moves are very technical and broken down. (and I am not anti gi ;-)
Yeah... that's not an accurate statement... my grappling background never consisted of a gi. I don't need a gi to do triangles, entangled armlocks, cross armlocks, chokes, leglocks.. etc.. There are specific gi chokes and gi tactics that require a gi, but you don't need a gi if you're not doing gi specific grappling. There IS a difference.
you say that you have to learn with a gi first.. then you don't say why. nothing you said here explains why someone would need to use a gi to learn the conventional moves, you only say that they do, and there is no reason why a gi would help.
does Eddie Bravo emphasize heel hooks (I am not questioning whether he thinks they are "legal" or not; but rather if he thinks they are a high percentage move) ?
agreed 100% i mean the evolution of grappling is almost scary cuz i used to be able to submit guys from rubber guard with just tricks now i got to put some speed
Eddie Bravo is to Jujitsu what Martha Graham was to dance.
It's crazy how many advanced jujitsu practitioners still don't know anything about the rubber guard. And it's not because the information isn't available.
I won my last MMA fight with a tepee set up from mission control by the way. Way better than a triangle from an open guard in my opinion. I didn't even take a single hit in the whole fight. Thank you Mr. Bravo.
Nino is given create for the 'invention' but as you know many people have come up with things and it is usually the guy who 'markets' the move that gets credit.
How long have you been training with Eddie? I'm training under one of his first students, Gerald Strebendt, at a little gym in Springfield, Oregon. If you decide to come up, come check us out. It's located at 138 Main Street in Springfield.
Eddie Bravo does it again! :) ...like many others, this presentation takes a life of it's own.
kiKSeRb 2 months ago
What I like about Eddie in comparison to other Jiujitsu instructors I've had in the past is how he emphasizes on offense. I know that BJJ was made for defense and all that, but until I was introduced to Eddie's system, I was thinking defensively with my jiujitsu and I think that's what makes getting certain submissions difficult. I mean, as long as you don't position your hands in a certain way on the ground, you can't get a submission locked. With Eddie, he finds way to do so offensively.
HajimeNoJMo 2 months ago
I think eventually submissions from guard down position are going to be ultra rare in MMA. Guys are getting to the point now where they just won't lay in your guard if you have a good submission game off your back. Or they just have such good submission defense that they can't be set up.
TheBrindleBoxer 5 months ago
Why the fuck is dr phil is the back right corner?
ToXicFinish 6 months ago 7
You have a lot of talent but you are a douche. And one easy ass way to avoid rubber guard? Posture the fuck up. Every bravo man I've competed with had no guard as long as I postured. It's especially easier to avoid all this in no gi.
shogun996 6 months ago
@shogun996 Rubber guard is based off controlling your opponent's posture. It's almost impossible to posture up when someone who actually knows how to do it does it. My guess is that you competed with someone who has an extremely bad rubber guard.
Mission Control=Possibly can back out
New York=Can't back out anymore
Chill dog/Invisible collar=You're not going anywhere
rangedat 6 months ago
@rangedat Actually I agree with you. Once you're caught in something it is hard to get out. But usually if I know the guy has a nasty rubber guard I avoid his guard altogether.
shogun996 6 months ago
Eddie is always honest. He tells you like it is and what you do with it is your choice but he never feeds you bullshit. gotta love him for that
sophiemaggie1 7 months ago
@sophiemaggie1 I totally agree with you... I'm an honor type of martial artist and I've seen and heard SO many people bad mouth Eddie for being egotistical/cocky/pothead etc... mainly because its so easy to misconstrue his personality... but in all reality the man is genuine and confident. I look forward to starting from scratch at his school in Burbank.. 10th Planet in October.
metalbullitt 6 months ago
eddie is demolaticma merci fo cu man
shawnkoolman1 7 months ago
anyone else like the thumbnail? haha
shakinwakin35 8 months ago
trash talking! he got lucky against royler. eddie bravo never won any real bjj competition
phoenix0017 9 months ago
@phoenix0017 You're a woman.
pearcemark2 8 months ago
@phoenix0017 He won the ADCC 2003 championships.
Klootjee 8 months ago
@Klootjee he DID NOT :)
phoenix0017 8 months ago
Does anybody know if Eddie have any of his 10th planet instructional video's for iPad download?
dmorley100 9 months ago
EDDIE= LEGEND
jumbofatty1 9 months ago
why dosent eddie do tournement anymore ?
y2taner 9 months ago
NOTICE!!! The old guy behind at 1:40 is like a cat or tiger or shit watching prey!!!!
konstantinmel 9 months ago
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SERIOUSLY....... THIS GUY SUCKS COCK!
YOU CAN TELL HE JUST HIT THE CRACK PIPE BEFORE THE VIDEO...
ID LIKE TO SEE HIM GET RAPED BY 4 GRIMEY MEXICANS WITH H.I.V. IN FRONT OF ANY KIDS HE MIGHT HAVE.... THEN HAVE HIS MOM PUT A SHOTGUN IN HER MOUTH AND BLOW HER FUCKING BRAINS OUT BECAUSE OF HER POOR PARENTING!
HIS JUJITSU SUCKS SHIT... I DONT KNOW WHY HIS NAME EVEN GETS MENTIONED..
EAT A DICK EDDIE!
HOW IS HE MAKING MONEY?
FILTHYPAKI 9 months ago
00:27 I am pretty sure that is a Joe Rogan Impresionation
RAULADOLFO 10 months ago
why do people think the rubber guard sucks? it's just like every other guard. they're all good. they all have their place. sure, some are used more often but the more you know, the more you'll be prepared. set-ups like the helicopter armbar might only work 1% of the time, but that 1% might be the finals match of a tournament. learn everything you can, even if you think it sounds stupid give it a chance.
willman808 10 months ago 3
Hmmm yea... Tell that thing about the gi & no-go to braulio estima... lol i still love alot of eddie's crazy shit..
Zahed9327 11 months ago
hes talkling about setups.
punisher00109 11 months ago
where can i find tutorials or a dvd on stretching for bjj? i don't know the proper stretching techniques.
mustache9000 11 months ago
is he wearing rolled up gi pants or are they long gi like shorts? either way, where can i get those?
mustache9000 11 months ago
this is a smart man!! the football part he knows exactly what hes talking about speed kills.. new system get away with it for a while but overall speed kills!! preach it eddie!
joshuauribe 1 year ago
the beauty of art is it always evolves and progresses
music, visuals, martial arts, etc
you can always add emphasis to your art, and eddie made some great great additions
TruNikkaz 1 year ago
the reason rubber guard isnt used that much is its only been around or like 10 years so it hasnt caught on yet jiu jitsu took 70 years for it to catch on eventualy the rubber guard will
saberman41 1 year ago
the perfect defense to eddie's rubber guard is to just jam your elbows into his thighs. this would force eddie to unlock his legs and release the rubber guard position. or am i wrong?
KYNCarena 1 year ago
@KYNCarena no... and I'm not a huge fan of him (like his stuff and do use it though)
you are assuming that the pain from that pressure point is going to make him not want to take the pain... but I've rolled with guys that just have this "damn that hurt.... if you keep that up for the next week I might start caring about it" attitude tht just end pressure point passes and other things like that...
ArkAngelHFB 1 year ago
@KYNCarena
depends where your posture is at when the rubber guard is pulled, or if your arms have freedom of movement, once the guard is locked down you have to counter his moves instead of forcing.the thing i find is that guys think you can hold someone in it forever,no way!!! its to break posture buy you time and to set up,as soon as he transitions and your aware of the differnt stages thats when you make ya move.its an awesome guard but not unbeatable, nothing works 100% each time
robertjaymatthews1 1 year ago
hmm, so is eddie like the shit is BJJ?
WrestleHardMMA 1 year ago
just talking and talking and talking ...
very boring!!!
MasoAthlet 1 year ago
@MasoAthlet
well you aren't listening then.
pommyrooter 1 year ago
stoner.
crazyfoolx311 1 year ago 4
TO GI OR NOT TO GI ???????????
onetao8 1 year ago
i thought he tapped our royler gracie not royce
Bacon22122 1 year ago
FYI: Eddy Bravo Tapped Out Royce Gracie.... For Those That Are Talking On the Comments.
chavamma 1 year ago
I totally respect Eddie Bravo, he has been leader of change in bjj!!!
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Scottjuliemm 1 year ago
He forgot to mention that smoking weed also helps him come up with new creative techniques lol. Youre the man Eddie!
RadicalHabitz 1 year ago 2
spoken like somebody who knowz.
shaujitsu 1 year ago
Soooo true about wrestling. Thats why I didnt like it that much. It gave me a big upper hand in my bjj game but in my opinion, wrestling gets old, quick.
DannyDaBaga 1 year ago
If you get into a Street Fight, most likely you won't have a Gi on.
SATANSbankers 2 years ago
Well no gi yeah...but you can use their shirts as gi.
jopepe7 2 years ago 4
yes.. unlike people think, its actually easy to choke someone even if he has just t-shirt on. Choking someone with t-shirt is like choking with nylon thread... very fast.
Orangetree991 2 years ago 3
And you wont be barefoot, groingaurded and wearing shorts.
I support no gi- but this is literally the opposite reason for it. Using the persons clothing to your advantage is huge on the street. No gi benefits the rules of mma.
escapethisall 2 years ago
but you will have clothes on
maxbigwood 2 years ago
man if some ones wearing a hoody thats all bad for them and
SPITFIREBURN 2 years ago
and you wont be half naked or wearing a rash gaurd
escapethisall 2 years ago
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He's good but if I paid to train i'd be pissed off with is chatting. He could have said this in 1 minute. Everyone there is cold by now! lol
DunxMeister 2 years ago
Getting paid by the hour ftw?
lol
martinimvu 2 years ago 19
do you know who this is?
RyanZawicki 2 years ago
@RyanZawicki yes. Still, classroom for lecture, mat for training
DunxMeister 2 years ago
alright man... just making sure
RyanZawicki 2 years ago
Gi or no Gi, who cares. alrites i'll wear Gi for the top half of me n no pants and undies for the otha half hows that
enviious 2 years ago 2
I say do both.....pros and cons to both. At the end of the day you are still training bjj so its all good :)
CLUB8U 2 years ago 3
why is everyone so into fighting over which is better, gi or no gi? EVERYONE SHUT UP AND TRAIN YO ASS OFF
Fupper16 2 years ago 3
haaha some crazy video game
10000wingsformarie 2 years ago
hey is it best to start in gi jiu-jitsu than transfer over to nogi because im wanting to do mma and im thinking of getting like a brown belt and go over to 10th planet which would be better to strt out with, nogi or gi?
xShARpSHoTv2x 2 years ago
I rarely ever rolled with the gi since I started training in jiujitsu and most people are fairly impressed with my skills.
Most of the jiujitsu old-timers who started out training with the gi, only did so because that was all that was available.
If you want to do no-gi, don't waste any of your time training in a gi. It is just a completely different game and half the moves don't work in no-gi.
SakoYo 2 years ago
The Gi opens up more moves which makes a person think more. If ya have to worry about being choked out while having a Gi yer less likely to make stupid and sloppy mistakes. Take off the Kimono and the fear of being caught by a lapel choke is gone but yer still very focused on the other person. I don't like rolling in a Gi but I've noticed a difference.
AmericanFenian 2 years ago
sakoyo has a valid opinion, but just keep in mind, most of the best no gi guys in the world like marcelo garcia and andre galvao, roger gracie, jacare, only train no gi once a week, where they train gi the other 6 days. i find it to be more of a thinking game, and you dont get to rely on strength and speed as much as timing and technique. just my 2 cents
lucubration808 2 years ago
That is only because most BJJ schools and most BJJ practitioners train in the gi and the 10th planet schools make up a minority of the overall BJJ market. Also most of the guys you've mentioned are professional competitors, which means they made a life investment in BJJ. That is completely different from recreational practitioners who only have time to train once or twice a week.
SakoYo 2 years ago
i do see your point, in the minority/majority thing, we'll see how prokopos does against cobrinha or the top guys in his division then ill buy into the no-gi only thing. anyway, recreational practitioners will probably suck either way 1-2 times a week? congratson being a white belt for 5 years. i just findits harder to do things with the gi on (passing escapes etc.) and without the gi thats just less things you haveto worry about, hey but diff'rnt strokes right? i just try to be as good as i can
lucubration808 2 years ago
It is not something you need to buy into, it is just common sense. Only an idiot would have a hard time seeing that someone who heavily specializes in the no-gi game would have a distant advantage in no-gi competition over someone who spends half their time training in the gi.
SakoYo 2 years ago
hah, do you train or what? common sense doesnt apply to all kidns of things especially in any kind of martial arts. in striking arts, the first thing is not to get hit, common sense says dodge, but sometimes its more advantageous to get hitso you can push through, or slip punches instead of dodging, getting closer to a swinging opponent isnt common sense neither is pushing and stacking for an armbar escape, but it works, its jsut the 10th planet guys want all this respect, but noone gets respect
lucubration808 2 years ago
until theyre proven at the highest level, especially if its supposed to "revolutionize jiu jitsu" but hey, im not trying to start an argument, we can agree to disagree here, i train my way and you train your way.
lucubration808 2 years ago
gi all the way
MrSamyboi911 2 years ago 2
no! with gi = no setups for no gi i read eddies book
xxstupifyedxx 2 years ago
most bjj schools all start with gi with the option later on. if your just really into mma go to an mma school. jj and mma jj are 2 very different things. its a whole new world when someones raining punches down on you
xpand86 2 years ago
Most MMA schools are jokes thats why I started Boxing and now train in a BJJ school. I agree that there is a big difference when punches are gettin thrown but with a solid BJJ background a person can dominate in MMA as long as their a decent striker.
AmericanFenian 2 years ago
If all you want with the Jiu Jitsu is to do MMA than do no-gi, but your limiting your ground game considerably. Don't see the Gi as a tool that you use but as a tool someone else uses which makes you work on posture and balance, important basics of BJJ. Stick with just gi until blue belt and then you will see what your game will develop into and go from there. Remember eddie trained alot with gi up untill brown belt before it focused on no gi and he wouldn't be where he was without it.
Have fun
bushpilot99 2 years ago
bushpilot99, your opinion doesn't any sense. How is not learning techniques that rely on the gi limit my ground game if you can't use these techniques in no-gi competition anyways. Also posture, balance, and basic jiujitsu can be developed just by training regardless of if the gi is there or not. Eddie only trained with the gi back in the day because that was all that was available, that doesn't mean that he would not have been able to develop his game if he did not train with the gi.
SakoYo 2 years ago
The point I was trying to make was benifit is made not just by learning techniques that rely on the gi but also "defending" against said techniques. Roll with someone with you wearing gi and them no gi and you'll see my point. To become a "stronger" all around "grappler" you need all the tools you can get.. No gi is great, and I do it every so often the same as gi. Limiting yourself to one school of thought on grappling IS very limiting. Each has strengths and weaknesses.
bushpilot99 2 years ago
If someone asked me which would I rather be, gi or no gi, I couldn't answer it because I'm more a student of grappling not just student of BJJ. Grappling is a science and BJJ is a great branch of it, but there is so many other unique arts which shore up each others weakness; some using a gi and some not. Each are valid and should be looked at; not disregarded for having techniques you don't like but excepted for techniques that you do. Keep on rolling.
bushpilot99 2 years ago
@SakoYo I used to be inclined to agree with you, but after training primarily no-gi and making the switch to a predominantly gi game in the past few months, my game has improved noticeably. When you have a gi on, you have to be worried about defending hundreds of more submissions than are available no-gi. Material slows things down, it forces you to have good hips, which is the crucible of grappling.
getthetapjj 1 year ago
@SakoYo I'm not trying to take away from no-gi and 10th Planet, but the facts don't lie: all of the best BJJ practioners and MMA fighters train(ed) with the gi. Look at Marcelo Garcia- no one is more accomplished than him in ADCC, which is a no-gi event, yet he insists on the importance of training in the gi every day.
getthetapjj 1 year ago
@getthetapjj
i don't know that much about BJJ yet, but one thing is obvious, training with something that isn't going to help you in competition or in a real self defense situation, doesn't make much sense.
MMAenthusiastUHHE 1 year ago
@MMAenthusiastUHHE You're right, at first glance, it doesn't make any sense. But read what I said earlier. In no-gi, there are like 5 submissions that you have to be worried from in mount. You get sweaty and slip out of holds more easily. With a gi on, there are tons more submission opportunities to defend from. If you can defend yourself mounted in a gi, you will be able to no-gi. Just because you all of a sudden don't have material doesn't make you a fish out of water.
getthetapjj 1 year ago
@getthetapjj
I agree with you on that, a gi it helps you to learn more moves, counters, and keeps you sharp, but as far as practicality goes, no gi is more practical for me because in a real match or fight you're gonna sweat and it will become a factor, and people on the streets don't wear a gi. The late and great Bruce Lee always preached about how Martial Arts should be practical and effective.
MMAenthusiastUHHE 1 year ago
@MMAenthusiastUHHE Sorry for 2 replies, but continuing, in no-gi sweat and slipperyness are a big factor. You can get lucky and escape a good position or submission by slipping out from all the sweat. With the gi on, no one is getting out because they are slippery. The only way you'll escape is with good technique. The gi refines your techniques and doesn't let you cut corners. My 2 cents. Don't make the mistake I made, train your gi BJJ from the beginning. Good luck with everything
getthetapjj 1 year ago
@getthetapjj
And what you said about cutting corners, I don't agree with that because, when you have no gi you also can't use it to help you out, so it balances out. Both styles have their advantages and disadvantages.
BJJ is a great sport, no doubt about it, but I'm more attracted to submission grappling because it's more fight oriented and watching MMA is what got me into grappling lessons.
MMAenthusiastUHHE 1 year ago
@MMAenthusiastUHHE training in the gi helps mma fighters win matches, there are very few champions that dont train in the gi. bj penn black belt in the gi, anderson silva black belt, machida blackbelt, frank mir black belt. the facts are there. find me 10 champions that have won adcc or ufc championships. trust the facts, fighters that train in the gi win most of the time, eddie bravo has never won adcc, he caught someone who has and got famous.
StLouisBJJ 1 year ago
@StLouisBJJ
that's because jiu jitsu is practiced with a gi, but to thank the Gi for their success is pretty naive
MMAenthusiastUHHE 1 year ago
@StLouisBJJ
Yes, but a lot of those guys who used to train in the gi are now saying it is useless. Frank Mir has said it, Aoki has said it, Dean Lister: its goes on and on. What about guys like Jake Shields and Randy Couture? They seem to do ok on the ground, and with no real foundation in the gi at all. Just face it: the gi does NOT make you better at Nogi or MMA. This is a fact.
Dhuman571 1 year ago
@Dhuman571
agreed, though the gi does have its uses. such as getting used to grappling with extra weight and rolling when uncomfortable. or how to move against friction caused by your and the opponents material. getting used to being gripped and pulled is an advantage from a self defence point of view as is using opponents clothes for leverage in the right spots. doing nogi set ups with a gi is great for learning technique when sweaty..it has its uses but very limited at an advanced level
robertjaymatthews1 1 year ago
@robertjaymatthews1
I've choked a guy out in a pub with a collar choke after he walked up and knocked me off a bar stool with a sucker punch. He woke up thinking he had won the fight. The Gi and NoGi argument is as useful and beneficial as the chicken and egg argument. They both work, but a Gi guy can take his jacket off and easily modify his game. The NoGi guy puts the jacket on and would be lost (if he has never trained Gi). It took me months to get used to a Gi after wrestling for 10 yrs.
AmericanFenian 1 year ago
@StLouisBJJ Yeah. Training with extra leverage and material to grab for a sport that doesn't provide that must make you better. Retard.
MARKOFC420 1 year ago
Why would you get a brown belt somewhere else (which will take you years) and THEN go to 10th Planet? Wouldn't you want great instruction from the get-go?
ImNotSimon 2 years ago
Hell yea Eddie. "like some craaazy video game" haha, nice.
ofaceplanto 2 years ago
fucking genious
chinchekn76 2 years ago
He may not have ever achieved the accolades of some of the elite top level grapplers, but the man is an amazing teacher and professor of the no-gi jiu-jitsu.
NeoOsiris19 2 years ago
eddie is the beast
boisejiujitsu 2 years ago
THe only prob i have with eddie is he has no proof of rubber gaurd. he never promoted one black belt, and none of his fighters have ever used the rubber gaurd successfully in MMA, watch the rubber guards in MMA, usually peope posture right out of it and get knocked out, Not to mention Joe rogan has a fukin orgasm everytime someone pull rubberguard or Rubbergaurd omaplata
niggabartlebee 2 years ago 5
shinya aoki and nick diaz both used the rubber guard for their gogoplata submissions, I've seen some guys use the rubber guard in MMA. dustin hazelet use it beutifully in ufc 91 og 92 I think, his reversed armbar with a omoplata setup(sound awesome). also seen mir and bj penn use the rubber guard and the jailbreak for instants. robert drysdale also uses it. I've pulled gogoplata with it. there is plenty of proof of the rubber guard and eddie's system.
arondadi 2 years ago 22
it did not look like nick diAZ USED THE RUBBER GUARD ADGAINST GOMI BUT HE DID GET HIM IN A GOGO DUSTIN HAZELET IS MY IDOL FOR MMA FIGHTER EDDIE IS MY IDOL JITS FIGHTERS LOL
mmagamer4life 1 year ago
can sub 101 show some counters?
kickbxingbboy 2 years ago
they have some go to the page and just search "counters" its best to go to THEIR page thou, not he search bar above this.
ofaceplanto 2 years ago
He is a black belt in BJJ under Jean Jacques Machado
Submissions101 2 years ago 4
That's absolutely true. actually its who ever is more powerful has the edge in a fight. That's if both opponents are at the same skill level. (strength+speed=Power)
jkullander 2 years ago
To me it all those traits plus technique
ahole831 2 years ago
he said if they are the same skill level... most guys seem to say conditioning (wide term) will be the deciding factor if both fighters skill (inc technique) levels are the same
LuqmanNaq 2 years ago
"power" is a big factor, also conditioning, but if one has better technique 8 out of 10 times he will win, ive come across this scenario many times wrestling.
jari390 1 year ago
PfcDabbs, many guys win adcc and mundials in the same year including demian maia, xande ribeiro, marcelo garcia, etc, etc.
BjjSmile 2 years ago
I think that learning both versions of the same style is a great thing. It really opens up the competition levels you could compete at. You could compete at the Mundials and the ADCC competition as well. Id really like to see the same guy win that in the same year, that guy would be a mad BJJ practitioner
PfcDabbs 2 years ago
Hes right gi and no gi are different but both are important. Niether one should be thrown away.
charliemurphyslaw 2 years ago 5
he looks like a little elf
JawBreakerJimmy 2 years ago 2
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immediately i hear at :35, "No one says Im explosive, I made my name on tricks" If that doesnt discredit his entire practice of the martial art of jujitsu and his system, then the legit world of bjj will keep sinking as long he keeps recruiting students.
judohuevos 2 years ago
I think you are reading into the 'tricks' comment too much. Obviously he refers to following a set of techniques that the traditional BJJ establishment isn't/wasn't using in order to get his submissions. No more and nothing less.
Submissions101 2 years ago 16
obviously he means moves or actions that deceive the opponent and give him an opening, not tricks like cheating, cmon man anyone with common sense can figure this out
Gnomehunter802 2 years ago 3
craftiness over strength and speed is real martial arts. Are you going to get into a street fight with someone smaller or slower than you?
patricknipsports 2 years ago
Wow you just made an ass of yourself.
EGarrett01 2 years ago
@judohuevos
What counts is who wins. Put up some 10th planet jj people against traditional gi people and lets see what happens.
gosciu555 1 year ago
@judohuevos
It doesn't discredit shit at all, he just means he had to compensate for his lack of athleticism with cleverness and set ups, ie "tricks."
gosciu555 1 year ago
@judohuevos wow your retarded huh?
chiluzzdia 1 year ago
@judohuevos If you think of Jiu Jitsu as a defensive art, it's not about how athletic you are. It's about what you know, compared to what your opponent knows. Jiujitsu is a great way for a smaller, weaker opponent to defeat a bigger, stronger opponent.
monkeysdude2 1 year ago
@judohuevos ...? So, if you're not physically talented, you can never be a martial artist?
utb008 1 year ago
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What is eddie talking about when he says breaking posture??
bananabread119 2 years ago
Posture is keeping your base low and solid while keeping a solid straight back and keeping your neck and head out of easy reach for your opponent. I'd advise you to look up bjj posture on youtube. It's an extremely important fundamental of jiu-jitsu, gi or no gi.
RabiesJr 2 years ago
YOU HAVE TO HAVE IT DOWN LIKE SOME CRAZY VIDEO GAME Eddie knows what he's talking about man!!!! that's the sentence of the year right there.
Vertpill 3 years ago 2
hey may not be explosive or an athlete but he is a hell of a modest jiujitsu master and a funny sob.
nouhenterprise 3 years ago
eddie is good but i believe that people that training with gi has more facilites to escape and get more resistence i know he won roger gracie but right after he lost for a gi guy wich was leo vieira, and most of the winner on adcc are people that use gi so when you training wich gi you get heavy and when you take out you feel much lighter and fast
gbigwaves84 3 years ago
First it was Royler. Which most of all the gracies train Gi. Second most all the competors in Abu Dabi are from "traditional" schools so they have ALL trained Gi. Eddie is from Gi. He train with the Machados for a long time before choosing to do No-Gi. The transition from gi to no-gi is harder then its made out to be. You dont have handles and its alot faster then the methodical gi game. I belive if you take a BB out of the gi and have him roll with a nogi guy at the same level nogi will win 99%
Boltz87 3 years ago
If we're talking straight submission grappling, most all the top players at ADCC are gi most of the time and no gi some of the time.
Dean Lister, Marcelo Garcia, Jacare, Roger Gracie, Drysdale...hell even BJ Penn, GSP and the Camarillo Bros. are 'mostly' gi.
As for the comment about people in the street not wearing gis - you realize a sweatshirt can act as a gi, right? And that most people wear pants? That's really no different than a gi, except it's easier to grab.
Yojimbo1717 2 years ago 2
why not just learn both?
charliemurphyslaw 2 years ago 4
he lost to the guy after because he put his all into fighting royler! lol he must have been exhausted
cryingindian 3 years ago
also remember Bravos style of JJ is deigned around MMA competition and street so MMA street people don't wear GIs. And in MMA street people can hit you so his style is designed to help you from getting hit.
jdawgzilla117 2 years ago
Part 2
Still, I think Eddie has the coolest bjj system on the planet. And even though he emphasizes on no-gi, of course we all know it doesn't mean they can't be used in gi. Gi or no-gi, I always go for rubber guard and/or twister side control if it's there. And as he says in his books, an armbar is still an armbar, and a triangle is still a triangle.
GrapplerJMo 3 years ago
Well, I yes and no agree with no-gi philosophy. Some people have said that training with the gi, it's more technical and it helps you prepare more for escapes in no-gi situations because of the holds. Granted you can hold with the gi, but you have to put in more effort and strategy to escape, and with no-gi, those handles aren't there and helps you better. I'm sure you all know that Cole Miller recently credited training in the gi to set up his triangle against Gurgel.
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GrapplerJMo 3 years ago
where are you guys located at submissions101?
dabbs24 3 years ago
10th Planet Jiu Jitsu Victoria BC
Submissions101 3 years ago
The games are fundamentally different. I should know, I've been training nonstop for a nogi tournament but entered a small gi tournament to "warm up". I lost to a gi submission. The moral is, know what you're training for.
Dynaman21 3 years ago
I could really see how you would have trouble training no gi for a while and then having to adjust back to the gi chokes. It seems the thing for me thats hardest going from gi to no gi is just having less friction. It always seems like some things are harder without the gi like remembering that darce chokes slip in quicker and some stuff is easier like not having to break grips from arm drags and such. I like to do both so I don't loose the feel for each but I never have a hard time adjusting
ilikebluejeans89 3 years ago
The Gi and No Gi is pretty much based on the Gi tops. Gi bottoms are almost the same as wearing shorts. I personally never wear shorts. I always wear my gi pants to stay away from slippage.
rickyhurtado 3 years ago
Than why do a majority of abu dabi rave about the Gi??? Because their right. Why do you think Roger and Marcello train 6out of 7 days gi and 1 no gi??
Earthfirst1 3 years ago
the gi is great. nogi is great. They are different games and you don't need one to do the other. As for MG, he now trains 1.5 hrs gi and 1.5 hours nogi a day, so his outlook has changed as he knows the importance of playing the nogi game and that he doesn't have handles to hold onto.
Submissions101 3 years ago
I know there are different things from gi to no gi but most is the same. Marcelo Garcia said its too confusing to have a gi and no gi game. He said the difference is small adjustments. I just really don't agree that the gi top makes such a difference. If it was a problem like Eddie Bravo has said there wouldn't be tons of ADCC champs coming directly from the gi. Everyone can have they're opinion but I just prefer to train the way most ADCC champs do, with the gi a majority of the time.
ilikebluejeans89 3 years ago
Yeah man, I went from training no gi for almost a year.. Then started doing gi grappling and I got my ass kicked a few times and was like WHAT THE HELL!? The gi really does make a big difference if you never go with it then try going against someone who's been training with gi. But yeah, i'm trying to get used to training with the gi now, ugh.
markymark2069 3 years ago
Gi and nogi are different but I still am a proponent on gi training especially for a beginner. The gi teaches you to protect your neck and use more technique instead of brute strength that you can get away with in nogi and gi as well but not as much. Once you have trained with a kimono for a year or two I highly suggest training nogi and youll notice your game with actually be more technical and fluid.
bearboy01 3 years ago
Everyone's got an opinion...that is for sure! Apples and oranges in my opinion. Do whatever makes you happy or what you think will improve your game. If you think it will make you more 'technical', then go for it. Personally, I don't but it doesn't mean the gi game is useless (it isn't of course).
Just have fun at whatever you do!
Submissions101 3 years ago
The best part is that this is coming from a black belt in Japanese jiu jitsu. Props to you Ari for your open-mindedness!
supermario1123 3 years ago
Thanks...I appreciate it and just love the art ;-)
Submissions101 3 years ago
Okay I sat through 3 minutes of talk about speed and only one mention about wearing a gi.
At no point did he elaborate why no-gi trumps gi.
Whoever posted this needs to rename the title.
MPA2000 3 years ago
or maybe when you talk about no gi it might have nothing to do with gi, which would be why he specified no gi...
lolll666 3 years ago
I think Eddie's jiu jitsu is very good and unique but I gotta go with Marcelo Garcia.He has said that in order to have the finest technique you have to train with the gi. He also said its too confusing to have a gi game and a seperate no gi game.He has said that the difference is just small adjustments.I just really think Marcelo knows alot more about the differences between no gi and gi games since hes won world titles in both.Eddie is good but has he ever won a large competition at black belt?
ilikebluejeans89 3 years ago 2
Eddie Bravo is nothing but a joke. Who has he beaten? Leo Vieira owned his ass. How many champions has he produced from scratch? (must be the weed).
Styrkur123 3 years ago
hed whoop your ass
twistedarmlock 3 years ago 2
Maybe... When he does he'll just market it and claim that he has sick moves. He's a pot head, that's it. I'd like to see him compete in Black Belt at Mundials, and I am pretty sure those Gi guys will hand his ass to him.
Styrkur12 3 years ago
eddie bravo made the rubber guard famous, his no-gi game is sick. he hasnt won anything recently but his win over royler gracie is good enough, dont hate on eddie because you cant use the rubber guard lol
thebestkeptsecret8 3 years ago
he won over royler gracie didnt he?
senos64 3 years ago
Ronaldo "Jacare" is a grappling monster,a submission master,but,in his grappling match against Randy Couture he couldnt do anything with him.The match actually went to a draw and Randy is 40somethin'past his prime and doesnt train in a Gi.Point being,I dont feel you need to start with a Gi,and I'm a Gi-fighter!
kneeknott 3 years ago
agreed. The gi and nogi game are different. NOt sure why people always want to compare them.
Submissions101 3 years ago
i've read a few comments on this vid saying you HAVE to have the GI to learn. yeah thats right if you wanna grapple with a GI on. but u dont NEED a GI to learn how too grapple. GI grappling is easier as you constantly have the grips. control is easier, subs are easier. NO GI i believe is better as u dont have the GI to depend on. GI also doesnt translate well to the NO gi game 100% of the time. i believe its the reverse. to be better a grappling WITH a GI. trying doing it without first.
darktim99 3 years ago
You don't need a gi to grapple. Just ask greco, shoot, freestyle, catch, or old style pankration guys.
That argument has never maid sense to me but people who are only about gi like to push it.
Gi and nogi are different games-its just that simple.
Submissions101 3 years ago
agreed! completely agree totally. i personnelly think nogi is harder then gi grappling. its faster and harder to get grips and postions. thanks for your reply man!
darktim99 3 years ago
Im gunna have to go with Marcelo Garcia on this one. Marcelo Garcia said in order to have the finest technique you need to train with the gi. He is probably the best pund for pound grappler and he trains only one day a week without a gi. Im sure you can get very good at no gi just training without it but it seems you miss things with and without the gi.
ilikebluejeans89 3 years ago
I'm not MMA fighter, but you can tell from Bravo's approach to Jiu Jitsu...practical, no-nonsense, and obviously loaded with experience and insight...that he's an expert student and teacher. Probably a master.
EGarrett01 3 years ago
you got to have it down like some crazy video-game hahaha!!!!Eddie is the man
Vertpill 3 years ago
My ex coach loves eddie bravo and his philosphy, and we would clash quite often on EB opinion but, its a healthy discussion.I am not sure if I agree with him on his theories but he puts good used to his philosophy I guess.If the gi and no gi aren't the same then why are the top gi guys at competitive level the same top people at no gi. Roger, Jacare, Marcelo, Werdum, Xande, Saulo, Margarida, Cobrinha. I do admire eddie bravo, but his game is a bit to flashy for me. Each to there own I guess.
tonkachow 3 years ago
I also disagree with some of his radical no-gi view, to learn you gotta have a gi, you need to learn the basics, before the advanced, and gi-game might not be the same as no-gi, but you can't learn submission and other moves properly without a gi, 9/10 you get a guy with the conventional moves, armbar, choke, kimura, you only do ninja moves when you have to and the timing is right, love the teachings of the submission101 guys, but EB game is a little too dependent of athletic instead of technic
kokwarlock 3 years ago
I would disagree. To learn submission grappling you do NOT need a gi (look at catch wrestlers, shooto guys, and 1000's of nogi guys, plus MMA fighters that have never worn one in their lives but are so good). Getting conventional moves without the gi is still possible and no one is saying that nogi guys don't use basics. See video of EB talking about the basics!!! As EB says in this video, he is NOT athletic and in fact, the moves are very technical and broken down. (and I am not anti gi ;-)
Submissions101 3 years ago
Yeah... that's not an accurate statement... my grappling background never consisted of a gi. I don't need a gi to do triangles, entangled armlocks, cross armlocks, chokes, leglocks.. etc.. There are specific gi chokes and gi tactics that require a gi, but you don't need a gi if you're not doing gi specific grappling. There IS a difference.
yoshiofdeath 3 years ago
you say that you have to learn with a gi first.. then you don't say why. nothing you said here explains why someone would need to use a gi to learn the conventional moves, you only say that they do, and there is no reason why a gi would help.
bizzle187 3 years ago
then why are all the top grapplers (who started out with gi) great in both gi and no gi?
see marcelo, roger, Xande, etc
drifterae 3 years ago
Because they are great grapplers. It still doesn't mean you need a gi to be good at nogi.
Submissions101 3 years ago
does Eddie Bravo emphasize heel hooks (I am not questioning whether he thinks they are "legal" or not; but rather if he thinks they are a high percentage move) ?
cburcinc 3 years ago
Eddie loves the calf crank from various positions. Don't know if he thinks it is or not (but, I would say there are once you get it)
Submissions101 3 years ago
agreed 100% i mean the evolution of grappling is almost scary cuz i used to be able to submit guys from rubber guard with just tricks now i got to put some speed
nightshroudis 4 years ago
Eddie just looks like the guy you want to hang out with; he's just cool. Plus the man's an innovator.
Fabyfakid 4 years ago 4
Eddie Bravo is to Jujitsu what Martha Graham was to dance.
It's crazy how many advanced jujitsu practitioners still don't know anything about the rubber guard. And it's not because the information isn't available.
I won my last MMA fight with a tepee set up from mission control by the way. Way better than a triangle from an open guard in my opinion. I didn't even take a single hit in the whole fight. Thank you Mr. Bravo.
balletman 4 years ago
who invented the gogo? I thought it was Nino schembri? did eddie bravo invent it? or was it already in GJJ?
ronhudsonjr 4 years ago
Nino is given create for the 'invention' but as you know many people have come up with things and it is usually the guy who 'markets' the move that gets credit.
Submissions101 4 years ago
How long have you been training with Eddie? I'm training under one of his first students, Gerald Strebendt, at a little gym in Springfield, Oregon. If you decide to come up, come check us out. It's located at 138 Main Street in Springfield.
Zothos 4 years ago