That's a let ball BORDERING on a stroke. The only reason it wasnt a stroke is because of the nice hold Nicol had where he showed Power a straigh drop. If power didnt bite, that's a stroke every time. No Let? Power could have stumbled to the ground, recovered, and then probably still would have hit Peter. The shot WAS that bad.
Loose ball from Nicol, but Power was wrong footed. Power could have played this ball. He could have gotten away with manufacturing a little interference and had a let no problem at all -- even would have gotten one if he elected not to play the ball. Power committed the *cardinal sin* of wrapping his racket around Nicol and trying to manufacture a stroke. For this he deserves to get the book thrown at him.
@iamnotsirirak If a player slips and then recovers in time to play the ball, then yeah it's a let. But not if they slip and then don't make an effort to get to the ball. In this case JP lifted his arm around Peter because he probably didn't want to go get the ball, which was by then behind him and Peter up on the T. Don't make an effort to get the ball? No let.
The commentator who describes it as a 'ridiculous decision' is Martin Heath, former World #4 player, who was (presumably) watching the match live, and regularly played both Peter Nicol and Jonathon Power. He's probably the best placed to make an informed decision.
All refs get one wrong occasionally - they can tell immediately from the reaction of the players and the crowd.
Possibly why the ref didn't award conduct points for the language - because the ref had contributed to the situation.
@squashstring Mate. I beg to differ. The top squash players make the worst refs and are usually a ref's worst nightmare for exactly that reason. It is fair to say that there are refs out there that are probably lacking in their understanding of the speed these guys move and their ability to get to and play the ball. As far as the rules go though the top players are notorious for not knowing the rules. They think they do and their ranking usually gives them credibility not always deserved.
@squashstring As for the crowds reaction. It is extremely difficult to ref a match when you have a hundred spectators who all think they know the rules, but generally don't have a clue. One of the things refs have to do is call regardless of those reactions, and I assure you, from experience, that is very difficult. You are right though, they get calls wrong ALL the time. The point here is not the decision, but the way it is arrived at, something just about every person on this blog has missed.
b) JP slipped, but recovered. Could have got his racket on the ball before it hit back wall - not a pacey shot and really loose (see slo-mo). It was an excellent length - that's why JP didn't play on and take it off the back wall. JP's arm around PN was emphasising interference, but interpreted as stroke hunting.
c) PN's shot was poor width and he didn't clear the ball particularly well.
@BigHarv65 um I think you're doubting other people's knowledge of squash. "Where Nicol's shot goes is irrelevant"..WHAT? Get your eyes out of the rulebook and watch the game. Nicol's shot was barely the width of the service box which was the main reason why Power still had a chance to volley the ball after leaning the wrong way. I think the commentators know what they're talking about, the players and them understand the speed that they're playing at, and it's gotta be at least a let I think.
@SuperDreamer92 I'm not doubting anyone's knowledge of squash. I'm giving my opinion. Something you've just done yourself. As for getting my eyes out of the rulebook. If you check my post you'll see I was not rude or obnoxious to anyone. The commentators are exactly that, commentators, with no requirement to be qualified as a ref. The ref in this case is qualified. P.s. Are you? I am a qualified ref and toured for 5 years teaching the rules to other refs. I also used to qualify refs.
@BigHarv65 yes I see you're giving your opinion, anyone can, but you're also insisting that you're right and put yourself above everyone else and the commentators. what I'm saying is I think you harp too much on "being qualified" or you "always knowing how decisions relate to the rulebook while nobody else does". you've said players "need to make full effort to get to the ball", as that's what the rulebook says...but just watch the play... pay attention closely to how it played out instead of..
@BigHarv65 ..just saying that "power slipped and didn't make full effort". not to take away from qualification or anything, but if you watch at 1:55, power is in position a split-second before the ball even comes into view...and nicol's shot was extremely loose, barely the width of the service box. glad you bring 5 years of teaching experience to the discussion, understanding rules is one thing ref certification gives but you still need to follow whether the player could have simply hit the ball
@SuperDreamer92 That was ridiculous !! I feel for power.. where else was he meant to put his arm. Pretty sure that it is recomended that you get ur racket back as quickly as possible and that is what power did!! Nicol was in the way!!! I agree with you when u say nicols shot was really loose ! it was!! it was an easy shot for power and could have been a winner so there may even be a stroke chance !!
There are too many people making comments based on ignorance and a lack of understanding of the rules. Mate this is one. No-where in the rules is the T mentioned in the context of making a call. Coaches teach you to command the T. Ref's don't refer to the T at all. It is completely irrelevant in the call.
These two commentators have absolutely no idea. NO IDEA AT ALL. The ref was 100% correct in his decision. What should be critisized is Power's shocking reaction. The only thing the ref did wrong was not to penalise Power with a conduct stroke or even game. Either would have been appropriate. To say the call was wrong in the context of the quality of the rally also indicates complete ignorance. It has no bearing. Incoming player must make every effort to get to and play the ball. Power did not
whilst this is a great rally I have to say that last night my buddy and I engaged in one of the longest and most skillfull rallies ever seen,lasting an incredible 2 hours,then the batteries ran out in my stupid wii remote! squash rules!
I like how Power used the noise from the crowd to get his frustration out (verbally). Clever timing...but he was starting to go overboard as the noise died down a bit.
No let if you watch it you will see that there was plenty of space for him to reach the ball. Just let fishing. Great squash all the way around minus the bad sportsmanship.
@misywisy why do you say that with such conviction. The shot Power could play or not play is irrelevant. There are too many people with opinions based on who knows what. Where Nicol's shot goes is also irrelevant. Check the nine questions in the rules which explain the process very well.
@BigHarv65 Nicol´s shot is irrelevant?? Waoww!!! And then you suggest me to check the rules?? My squash friend, you didn´t provide any kind of info to support your opinion, that you didn´t share it neither. Let ball. Don´t care to check the rules so many times if necessary , but your message´s so weak to do so!! Because all of that, mi opinion is a let ball should´ve been given!!
@marlonh18 So what? I play 4 wall handball and one wall handball and I never seen much poor sportsmanship in a tournament of any sport. I bet none of us can play this till our probable natural death.
@mrbobevans The codes are different, but Federer credits his love of playing squash as a major tool in helping him with reflexes and endurance when playing tennis :)
i love squassssssssssssssssssssssssssssshhhhhhhh its the best sport there is , don't think so ? see me anyday in a court and ill show that to you( just a big fan thats all)
No Let is the correct call. Power was clearly fishing for a let, rather than playing the ball. I think that if instead, Power had actually tried to play the ball, it probably would have been a let. But he didn't. Ref's need to discourage Let-fishing expeditions. And this is DEFINITELY not a stroke for Power.
@lingyt7 unfortunately, you're right, 100% right mate.
But there is a difference with gamestyle of beginners and pros. Newbies are trying to make every shot a winner. eg serve and then drop shot - it makes 50/50 situation - we have a point or opponent will counter-drop and game is over. It sucks! Pros are playing higher, they're making a long rallies to make this one and only situation when winner isn't so risky ;)
Really bad decision by ref. it's true that power extended his hand around his opponent but (if you watch it again and again) He did it so fast that the ball didn't even get back half the way yet. Nicol didn't move fast enough. Ref should've called LET!!!!
Really bad decision by ref. it's true that power extended his hand around his opponent but (if you watch it again and again) He did it so fast that the ball didn't even get back half the way yet. Nicol didn't move fast enough. Ref should've called LET!!!!
According to Rule 12.7.4, if the player who is obstructed created the interference that resulted in his obstruction, then "no let" is the correct call. Power created his own interference by going the wrong way. His only recourse was to play the ball. He wasn't entitled to a let, because he created his own interference.
@ewallt Thanks for that - it's helpful to have the actual written rule in front of us as a reference, because after a rally like that, there will always be arguments (adamant ones) on both sides. I'm right on the edge here. Power is at the time one of the best players in the world, and would definitely have gotten the shot. Yet he did go the wrong direction and slip, forcing himself to wrap his arm around Nicol. WOW. I would go by the "when in doubt, play a let" concept, I think...
@ewallt Even though there was a slight slip in the feet, Power was still able to adjust fast enough to play the volley (he had his racquet up and had regained his balance by the time the ball was in his strike zone). He never moved in the wrong direction, he just shifted his weight in the wrong direction - but again, he recovered fast enough to at least get a let. It's almost a stroke. A no-let is a completely ridiculous considering how loose Nicol's shot was. That ref MUST be "insane".
@DaFredmeista Moving in the wrong direction is irrelevant in the decision. Being able to get to the ball is only part of the decision, but only one element of that decision. The player MUST make EVERY effort to get to and play the ball. If not, no let. In that case it is irrelevant if the incoming player could get to the ball. Also, having his racket up is not the point. The interference in respect of the stroke (not the movement) is determined based on a reasonable swing.
@ewallt Almost correct mate, but going the wrong way is absolutely irrelevant in the decision making. Process is: Was there interference? No then no let. Yes, next question. In asking if there was interference the ref must consider created interference. Incoming player has the right to direct access from his position directly to the ball, and freedom to play the shot with a reasonable swing. In this case the ref determined that the interference was created and hence NO LET. It was a v good call.
@ewallt The ref was also correct for a second reason too, and even more importantly. Incoming player must make every effort to get to AND play the ball. POWER clearly did not make EVERY effort but merely lifted his racket in a half hearted effort to "create" interference. In this case being able to get to and play the ball is not yet relevant. That becomes important later in the refs decision. It's if he did make the effort. It is actually a very simple rule to apply if you understand it.
The call looked correct to me, but neither the ref nor the commentator gave the right reason. Nichol fooled Power. Power thought the ball was going short. He created his own interference by misreading the shot. The ball didn't come off the back wall, so he couldn't have gotten it.
I agree on the wrong footing and misreading but he still could of hit it, the ball was to loose with no pace on it to the back of the court which gave him time to recover from misreading and have a chance to hit it!
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TENNIS > SQUASH
SAMPRAS, FEDERER, AGASSI, NADAL, LAVER, MCENROE, BORG > THE KHANS, NICOL, WHITE, POWER, PALMER, SHABANA, DARWISH
Let's face it, tennis is the king of racquet sports, which is why tennis players make a lot more money than squash players. And female tennis players are way hotter than female squash players.
I think that's a tough call and the ref got it wrong. It was loose but Jonathan sorta went looking for a stroke. I mean he had his racquet up, but he was nowhere near the ball and sorta just stood there. He could've made more of an effort to go around Peter. I think a let for created interference would be the best call.
@sentinel301 I read that there are far fewer squash injuries to the arm than tennis. But it looks like the game is brutal on the hips, is this correct?
@mrbobevans yeh, I think there'd be less injuries to the arm in squash. I think more brutal on the knees than the hips. Definitely get a good workout in the hip area but I'm pretty sure more players have had to retire due to knee injuries (Lee Beachill & Anthony Ricketts)
@sentinel301 I appreciate your comment. All I know is my arm is killing me after I have played 7 days straight of tennis. The tennis game puts ridiculous amounts of stress on the arms. Have you ever noticed that men over age 60 always hit slice. You would have to assume topspin is too stressful. I am 46 and hit heavy topspin. If I still here, I cannot imagine hitting the ball with slice on the forehand.
If you play it for the first time yes correct. You will have muscle ache for 5 to 6 days. But if you play regularly 1 - 2 per week you wont have a problem.
@Flurry1976 correct, but by playing the player and not attempting to play to or at the ball he is not allowed a let. remembering how far past the ball was in relation to Power.
No let, he slipped. Why should power get the call when nicol played a good shot and power fell over going the wrong way. you cant hug your opponent when you cant get the ball. He was tired out, no surprise, still no excuse. No let, good call...
He fell over, that's why he was in a shit position, you can't fall behind the other guy then push through him to get a let. It's his fault, No let, the referee was correct and the commentators are fucking blind.
the ref made a good decision, because power slipped when nicol played the shot so even if nicol wasn't in the way, it would have been insanely hard to reach that shot
"Best rally in the match so far Alan."
mrbobevans 1 week ago
Correct call. Power is such a cheat.
widebody123 3 weeks ago
Good call. Power slipped, then put his arm to obstruct himself. Long rally, he was tired...
wesman427 3 weeks ago
That call was BS
WIMAAC 1 month ago
The reaction made it so much better :L
TheFregster 1 month ago
That's a let ball BORDERING on a stroke. The only reason it wasnt a stroke is because of the nice hold Nicol had where he showed Power a straigh drop. If power didnt bite, that's a stroke every time. No Let? Power could have stumbled to the ground, recovered, and then probably still would have hit Peter. The shot WAS that bad.
cainabis420 1 month ago
was he penalised for the swearing? Nutter, always the same histrionics
detectoruser 1 month ago
Good rally indeed,still No Let from me,sorry.
r2rnagy 1 month ago
good rally though!!
1fuzzguitar 1 month ago
that's the most ridiculous call in the world.... how is that not a let??????
1fuzzguitar 1 month ago
Power is an asshole!!
Dillererseje 2 months ago
You know what i love?? When dumbass commentator tells us what shot each player just hit!!!
browzerfc99 3 months ago
squash is like a basketball player thought tennis was too hard and badminton didn't have enough bullshit
therealsolstice 3 months ago
@therealsolstice I don't really follow...WTF are you talking about
junghoonsurvey 1 month ago
Loose ball from Nicol, but Power was wrong footed. Power could have played this ball. He could have gotten away with manufacturing a little interference and had a let no problem at all -- even would have gotten one if he elected not to play the ball. Power committed the *cardinal sin* of wrapping his racket around Nicol and trying to manufacture a stroke. For this he deserves to get the book thrown at him.
timscarfe 3 months ago
good call , No Let Power was on a wrong foot.
r2rnagy 4 months ago
@r2rnagy it doesn't matter if he was wrong footed!! he could have returned the shot!!!!!!!!!!!
1fuzzguitar 1 month ago
Stroke.
goshensquash 4 months ago
Are you guys dumb? Listen to the announcer. should of been a stroke and he didn't even get a let
robinmiron 5 months ago
the reaction fron power to the no let is quality
Midsquash 5 months ago
Squash is a great sport, but does not fare well on TV.
mrbobevans 6 months ago
LOL Power is a pro at the club i play at hes nothing like this anymore it is really funny
and also ref got that call right =P
sagefrog 6 months ago
i dont get squash, but i think they don't like that wall. lol
TrixKoMAToSe 6 months ago
He slipped. But probably would have had gotten there anyway tbh :L Let for me.
iamnotsirirak 6 months ago
@iamnotsirirak If a player slips and then recovers in time to play the ball, then yeah it's a let. But not if they slip and then don't make an effort to get to the ball. In this case JP lifted his arm around Peter because he probably didn't want to go get the ball, which was by then behind him and Peter up on the T. Don't make an effort to get the ball? No let.
inqurious 5 months ago
no let
jpserra 7 months ago
And the commentator is like far too many commentators in all sports: bemoans that the official has applied the rules. Grrr.
Bakerboy619 7 months ago
Power is quality but a whining pussy
Bakerboy619 7 months ago
The squash version of John McEnroe!
TRFz1 7 months ago 11
He slipped, then manufactured a Let, its people like this who ruin all types of sports and society.
davidcutting 7 months ago
Lol that ref is an a**hole!!
Adyll1212 7 months ago
The commentator who describes it as a 'ridiculous decision' is Martin Heath, former World #4 player, who was (presumably) watching the match live, and regularly played both Peter Nicol and Jonathon Power. He's probably the best placed to make an informed decision.
All refs get one wrong occasionally - they can tell immediately from the reaction of the players and the crowd.
Possibly why the ref didn't award conduct points for the language - because the ref had contributed to the situation.
squashstring 7 months ago
@squashstring Mate. I beg to differ. The top squash players make the worst refs and are usually a ref's worst nightmare for exactly that reason. It is fair to say that there are refs out there that are probably lacking in their understanding of the speed these guys move and their ability to get to and play the ball. As far as the rules go though the top players are notorious for not knowing the rules. They think they do and their ranking usually gives them credibility not always deserved.
BigHarv65 4 months ago
@squashstring As for the crowds reaction. It is extremely difficult to ref a match when you have a hundred spectators who all think they know the rules, but generally don't have a clue. One of the things refs have to do is call regardless of those reactions, and I assure you, from experience, that is very difficult. You are right though, they get calls wrong ALL the time. The point here is not the decision, but the way it is arrived at, something just about every person on this blog has missed.
BigHarv65 4 months ago
a) Interference occurred.
b) JP slipped, but recovered. Could have got his racket on the ball before it hit back wall - not a pacey shot and really loose (see slo-mo). It was an excellent length - that's why JP didn't play on and take it off the back wall. JP's arm around PN was emphasising interference, but interpreted as stroke hunting.
c) PN's shot was poor width and he didn't clear the ball particularly well.
d) Winning shot was not on.
Shades of grey ...
"Yes, let", - both players happy!
squashstring 7 months ago
"Let" will do... Even though he slipped, I think he would still be able to get it according to their game pace...
C89Jordan 8 months ago
This was cool but it makes squash make way too easy.
when I hit the ball it goes "Thock!"
terrybooger 8 months ago
Squash is a really great sport, just not good for watching on TV. Tennis is much better to watch on TV.
mrbobevans 8 months ago
@BigHarv65 um I think you're doubting other people's knowledge of squash. "Where Nicol's shot goes is irrelevant"..WHAT? Get your eyes out of the rulebook and watch the game. Nicol's shot was barely the width of the service box which was the main reason why Power still had a chance to volley the ball after leaning the wrong way. I think the commentators know what they're talking about, the players and them understand the speed that they're playing at, and it's gotta be at least a let I think.
SuperDreamer92 8 months ago
@SuperDreamer92 I'm not doubting anyone's knowledge of squash. I'm giving my opinion. Something you've just done yourself. As for getting my eyes out of the rulebook. If you check my post you'll see I was not rude or obnoxious to anyone. The commentators are exactly that, commentators, with no requirement to be qualified as a ref. The ref in this case is qualified. P.s. Are you? I am a qualified ref and toured for 5 years teaching the rules to other refs. I also used to qualify refs.
BigHarv65 4 months ago
@BigHarv65 yes I see you're giving your opinion, anyone can, but you're also insisting that you're right and put yourself above everyone else and the commentators. what I'm saying is I think you harp too much on "being qualified" or you "always knowing how decisions relate to the rulebook while nobody else does". you've said players "need to make full effort to get to the ball", as that's what the rulebook says...but just watch the play... pay attention closely to how it played out instead of..
SuperDreamer92 4 months ago
@BigHarv65 ..just saying that "power slipped and didn't make full effort". not to take away from qualification or anything, but if you watch at 1:55, power is in position a split-second before the ball even comes into view...and nicol's shot was extremely loose, barely the width of the service box. glad you bring 5 years of teaching experience to the discussion, understanding rules is one thing ref certification gives but you still need to follow whether the player could have simply hit the ball
SuperDreamer92 4 months ago
@SuperDreamer92 That was ridiculous !! I feel for power.. where else was he meant to put his arm. Pretty sure that it is recomended that you get ur racket back as quickly as possible and that is what power did!! Nicol was in the way!!! I agree with you when u say nicols shot was really loose ! it was!! it was an easy shot for power and could have been a winner so there may even be a stroke chance !!
Wombat9600 3 months ago
There are too many people making comments based on ignorance and a lack of understanding of the rules. Mate this is one. No-where in the rules is the T mentioned in the context of making a call. Coaches teach you to command the T. Ref's don't refer to the T at all. It is completely irrelevant in the call.
BigHarv65 8 months ago
A wise decision would be just a let...Because Power really slips, but Nicol´s shot was too close to him...
kaledon6 9 months ago
i know he slips but he recovers in time and his racket is up in time to hit the shot, which was loose and in the middle of the court
sabby258 9 months ago
looked like a good call to me... power slips, and then manufactures an obstruction by putting his arm around nichol
johnykoop 9 months ago 33
Power knows he was full of it. A rookie ref would be able to tell that there is no let there. thats hilarious.
elrubiochulo 9 months ago
He needed a rest and managed to get an extra 90 seconds by ranting...
sooperqper 10 months ago
@sooperqper totally agree with you. thats exactly what he needed some air and obviously he vented pretty good. hhhaaaa
elrubiochulo 9 months ago
Ref has to let that one go, Power didnt have a clean path to the ball.
rynor1234 10 months ago
He couldn't try and play the ball because Peter didn't get back to the T quick enough.
Simqlicity 10 months ago
These two commentators have absolutely no idea. NO IDEA AT ALL. The ref was 100% correct in his decision. What should be critisized is Power's shocking reaction. The only thing the ref did wrong was not to penalise Power with a conduct stroke or even game. Either would have been appropriate. To say the call was wrong in the context of the quality of the rally also indicates complete ignorance. It has no bearing. Incoming player must make every effort to get to and play the ball. Power did not
BigHarv65 10 months ago 3
@BigHarv65 brilliant analysis
jpwneo 9 months ago
@BigHarv65 his profanities were yelled out during the crowd roar so presumably the ref didnt hear them
samuraizulu 8 months ago
whilst this is a great rally I have to say that last night my buddy and I engaged in one of the longest and most skillfull rallies ever seen,lasting an incredible 2 hours,then the batteries ran out in my stupid wii remote! squash rules!
therewere5ofthem 10 months ago
what a fucking pussy
wetwillyoffilly 11 months ago
Martin Heath (Scottish commentator) explains it best.
DaFredmeista 11 months ago
I like how Power used the noise from the crowd to get his frustration out (verbally). Clever timing...but he was starting to go overboard as the noise died down a bit.
DaFredmeista 11 months ago 4
stupid fuckin ref
EARNYZ1112 11 months ago
one thousand times stroke to power
biscua 11 months ago
No let if you watch it you will see that there was plenty of space for him to reach the ball. Just let fishing. Great squash all the way around minus the bad sportsmanship.
kermit066 11 months ago
Unquestionably a stroke to Power
paulfield1 1 year ago
doesnt matter if its a let, john still kicked ass
jcprs69 1 year ago
It's a let ... he had the ability to get to it but ended up tangled up with Nichol ...
piedrada 1 year ago
it is a lead it is common sense
taimoorburki 1 year ago
if he hadnt slipped it wouldve been a stroke, had he been able to get past nicol, nicol still wouldve been right in his backswing
probably wouldve smacked him in the face with the racquet haha
JayyFive 1 year ago
Their overhead backhands are so powerful, Im a good C player, but I struggle with that shot like crazy.
rynor1234 1 year ago
It´s let. Wrong call. Nicol´s shot was open. Power could have volley that.
misywisy 1 year ago
@misywisy why do you say that with such conviction. The shot Power could play or not play is irrelevant. There are too many people with opinions based on who knows what. Where Nicol's shot goes is also irrelevant. Check the nine questions in the rules which explain the process very well.
BigHarv65 8 months ago
@BigHarv65 Nicol´s shot is irrelevant?? Waoww!!! And then you suggest me to check the rules?? My squash friend, you didn´t provide any kind of info to support your opinion, that you didn´t share it neither. Let ball. Don´t care to check the rules so many times if necessary , but your message´s so weak to do so!! Because all of that, mi opinion is a let ball should´ve been given!!
misywisy 8 months ago
what was power supposed to do? Nichol's shot was loose. bad call by the ref
Eddieshack67 1 year ago
this shouldn't be a sport
NeoShinobi 1 year ago
@NeoShinobi and your comment is coming from a person who watches anime and plays handball? Squash is easily the most strenuous racquet sport.
marlonh18 1 year ago
@marlonh18 So what? I play 4 wall handball and one wall handball and I never seen much poor sportsmanship in a tournament of any sport. I bet none of us can play this till our probable natural death.
NeoShinobi 1 year ago
@NeoShinobi youre a fuckhead
Eddieshack67 1 year ago
12 people play tennis
tgisthebest 1 year ago
It 's his own fault. He slips so no Let
jeffrey1k 1 year ago
that's a let
659851 1 year ago
no let imo
Str3ssed 1 year ago
definitely a stroke. idk what the ref was smoking when he called that
mcspankies95 1 year ago
Watching these guys play makes me realize they are as good or better athletes than Agassi, Sampras, Federer or Nadal.
mrbobevans 1 year ago
@mrbobevans The codes are different, but Federer credits his love of playing squash as a major tool in helping him with reflexes and endurance when playing tennis :)
marlonh18 1 year ago
i would have given a let definitely... bad luck for power :-/
dmmbrgr 1 year ago
Agree with yuseng, no let :) good call :D squash is an amazing game more people should get involved, would love to see it in the olympics!!
matjak0516 1 year ago
I fucking love Jon Power. What a genius player.
iamspartacus29 1 year ago
exemplary ref! that was a good call.
yuseng 1 year ago
it s a let
lvmh 1 year ago
if it isnt a stroke, at least a let, because he DID deliberately put his arm around Nicol
Moneydmja 1 year ago
He slipped and did make no effort, wouldn't have given him the let either
screilly 1 year ago
Ref are you FU###NG insane that's a LET!!!!!!!
Mike221174 1 year ago
Are u fu****g insane? That was a let!!!
kieman99RULEZ 1 year ago
Never a stroke, Powers slipped and played Nicol rather than the ball Let at best....
fluidjazz 1 year ago
bullsh^$#*t right there. easy let call
johnnymey 1 year ago
@lingyt7 it is much harder than these guys make it look. Anyone that plays squash would interpret this as a beautiful yet aggressive ballet
rishsn 1 year ago
He could have given a Let also, and reasonably justified that call too. Either call is correct in that instance. Such is squash.
unibrook 1 year ago
When it comes to sportsmanship, Peter Nicol is the Stefan Edberg of squash.
mrbobevans 1 year ago
He didn't use the F word as thats a forfeit set!
dekdoe77 1 year ago
Let..
stefanjoseph900 1 year ago
i love squassssssssssssssssssssssssssssshhhhhhhh its the best sport there is , don't think so ? see me anyday in a court and ill show that to you( just a big fan thats all)
khashy70 1 year ago
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i think it is a fair call by the umpire
ANAFO100 1 year ago
i think it is a fair call by the umpire
ANAFO100 1 year ago
people dont seem to realise how hard those balls in the back corner are to pick up
MulletMan3108 1 year ago
squash is soo much better than skiing.
Lirelandhmfc 1 year ago
Also, I love that this announcer sounds exactly like Clean Shirt from Peep Show!
unibrook 1 year ago
No Let is the correct call. Power was clearly fishing for a let, rather than playing the ball. I think that if instead, Power had actually tried to play the ball, it probably would have been a let. But he didn't. Ref's need to discourage Let-fishing expeditions. And this is DEFINITELY not a stroke for Power.
unibrook 1 year ago
Sadly that was poor sportsmanship but the ref could at least have given the let. He was ready to hit the ball.
fribid 1 year ago
That was beautiful. I bow down to this rally
chandlereen 1 year ago
okay lads we ger it.. Good rally !
johnnyirish222 1 year ago
Power got robbed. What a BS call.
abdiver12 1 year ago
sportsmanship fail
mrbulletproof100 1 year ago
@lingyt7 unfortunately, you're right, 100% right mate.
But there is a difference with gamestyle of beginners and pros. Newbies are trying to make every shot a winner. eg serve and then drop shot - it makes 50/50 situation - we have a point or opponent will counter-drop and game is over. It sucks! Pros are playing higher, they're making a long rallies to make this one and only situation when winner isn't so risky ;)
Sorry for my poor english, greetings from Poland!
Cheers!
pisaqW 1 year ago
Really bad decision by ref. it's true that power extended his hand around his opponent but (if you watch it again and again) He did it so fast that the ball didn't even get back half the way yet. Nicol didn't move fast enough. Ref should've called LET!!!!
nc07ymah 1 year ago
@nc07ymah I agree!
chaissonsquash 1 year ago
Really bad decision by ref. it's true that power extended his hand around his opponent but (if you watch it again and again) He did it so fast that the ball didn't even get back half the way yet. Nicol didn't move fast enough. Ref should've called LET!!!!
nc07ymah 1 year ago
According to Rule 12.7.4, if the player who is obstructed created the interference that resulted in his obstruction, then "no let" is the correct call. Power created his own interference by going the wrong way. His only recourse was to play the ball. He wasn't entitled to a let, because he created his own interference.
ewallt 1 year ago 17
@ewallt Thanks for that - it's helpful to have the actual written rule in front of us as a reference, because after a rally like that, there will always be arguments (adamant ones) on both sides. I'm right on the edge here. Power is at the time one of the best players in the world, and would definitely have gotten the shot. Yet he did go the wrong direction and slip, forcing himself to wrap his arm around Nicol. WOW. I would go by the "when in doubt, play a let" concept, I think...
Moose92411 11 months ago
@ewallt Even though there was a slight slip in the feet, Power was still able to adjust fast enough to play the volley (he had his racquet up and had regained his balance by the time the ball was in his strike zone). He never moved in the wrong direction, he just shifted his weight in the wrong direction - but again, he recovered fast enough to at least get a let. It's almost a stroke. A no-let is a completely ridiculous considering how loose Nicol's shot was. That ref MUST be "insane".
DaFredmeista 11 months ago 2
@DaFredmeista Moving in the wrong direction is irrelevant in the decision. Being able to get to the ball is only part of the decision, but only one element of that decision. The player MUST make EVERY effort to get to and play the ball. If not, no let. In that case it is irrelevant if the incoming player could get to the ball. Also, having his racket up is not the point. The interference in respect of the stroke (not the movement) is determined based on a reasonable swing.
BigHarv65 10 months ago
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snow33ish 9 months ago
@ewallt Almost correct mate, but going the wrong way is absolutely irrelevant in the decision making. Process is: Was there interference? No then no let. Yes, next question. In asking if there was interference the ref must consider created interference. Incoming player has the right to direct access from his position directly to the ball, and freedom to play the shot with a reasonable swing. In this case the ref determined that the interference was created and hence NO LET. It was a v good call.
BigHarv65 10 months ago 2
@BigHarv65 finally some sense, good job
snow33ish 9 months ago
@ewallt The ref was also correct for a second reason too, and even more importantly. Incoming player must make every effort to get to AND play the ball. POWER clearly did not make EVERY effort but merely lifted his racket in a half hearted effort to "create" interference. In this case being able to get to and play the ball is not yet relevant. That becomes important later in the refs decision. It's if he did make the effort. It is actually a very simple rule to apply if you understand it.
BigHarv65 10 months ago 3
@ewallt lol not even, power definitely did not create the interference
squashplaya0313 10 months ago
@ewallt nicol cleared into power's backswing.. call is a stroke. good try though
marcopolo359 10 months ago
@ewallt it looks like power just puts up his racquet.
marcopolo359 7 months ago
The call looked correct to me, but neither the ref nor the commentator gave the right reason. Nichol fooled Power. Power thought the ball was going short. He created his own interference by misreading the shot. The ball didn't come off the back wall, so he couldn't have gotten it.
ewallt 1 year ago 3
I agree on the wrong footing and misreading but he still could of hit it, the ball was to loose with no pace on it to the back of the court which gave him time to recover from misreading and have a chance to hit it!
chaissonsquash 1 year ago
wrong call ref!!!! its let!!!
pplsuxs 1 year ago
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timscarfe 1 year ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
TENNIS > SQUASH
SAMPRAS, FEDERER, AGASSI, NADAL, LAVER, MCENROE, BORG > THE KHANS, NICOL, WHITE, POWER, PALMER, SHABANA, DARWISH
Let's face it, tennis is the king of racquet sports, which is why tennis players make a lot more money than squash players. And female tennis players are way hotter than female squash players.
mrbobevans 1 year ago
@mrbobevans
great rationale to make your conclusion...
TOraptors1 1 year ago
Did Powers win the match ? I cant recall :)
funboy1999 1 year ago
wrong call.
chuzhee 1 year ago
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michaelz92 1 year ago
@lingyt7
Yea, it is an unbelievable workout + output of energy
Knightmare44 1 year ago
friggen greeeeeaaaat squash!
nuromanb 1 year ago
Let's face it - Squash is not a great TV sport. Tennis is much better for viewing on TV.
mrbobevans 1 year ago
I think that's a tough call and the ref got it wrong. It was loose but Jonathan sorta went looking for a stroke. I mean he had his racquet up, but he was nowhere near the ball and sorta just stood there. He could've made more of an effort to go around Peter. I think a let for created interference would be the best call.
sentinel301 1 year ago 2
@sentinel301 I read that there are far fewer squash injuries to the arm than tennis. But it looks like the game is brutal on the hips, is this correct?
mrbobevans 1 year ago
@mrbobevans yeh, I think there'd be less injuries to the arm in squash. I think more brutal on the knees than the hips. Definitely get a good workout in the hip area but I'm pretty sure more players have had to retire due to knee injuries (Lee Beachill & Anthony Ricketts)
sentinel301 1 year ago
@sentinel301 I appreciate your comment. All I know is my arm is killing me after I have played 7 days straight of tennis. The tennis game puts ridiculous amounts of stress on the arms. Have you ever noticed that men over age 60 always hit slice. You would have to assume topspin is too stressful. I am 46 and hit heavy topspin. If I still here, I cannot imagine hitting the ball with slice on the forehand.
mrbobevans 1 year ago
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sentinel301 1 year ago
@mrbobevans
If you play it for the first time yes correct. You will have muscle ache for 5 to 6 days. But if you play regularly 1 - 2 per week you wont have a problem.
pascalitos500 1 year ago
there is NO WAY it can be a "no let" it is 200% stroke
This is absolutely ridiculous
All the comments here which try to argue are ridiculous too
lvmh 1 year ago
stroke lah
alwaysanmggal123 1 year ago
Yea that was a definite stroke
squashed44 1 year ago
No cos when he hit it he fell forward for some reason, then he was the wrong side because he put himself there.
He can't then push back to the corner, he shouldn't have gone the wrong way. Also, abuse to the referee and court is just annoying.
tbonewilson 1 year ago 3
Great comment by commentator: "Technically the referee was correct, but not in this situation."
It is like saying a golfer grounded the club in the sand trap, but his lie was so bad that he had no choice. Thus there is no stroke penalty.
mrbobevans 1 year ago
right decision!!! power was just upset because the shoe was/is usually on the other foot!!
LAFUNGA786 1 year ago
It was a let!!! For sure although Power slipped he could reach the ball. He had lifted his racket, that's the point!
Flurry1976 1 year ago
It was a let!!! For sure although Power slipped he could reach the ball. He had lifted his racket, that's the point!
Flurry1976 1 year ago
@Flurry1976 correct, but by playing the player and not attempting to play to or at the ball he is not allowed a let. remembering how far past the ball was in relation to Power.
picello1 1 year ago
I agree with benjo0101 - he slipped.
chuzhee 1 year ago
No let, he slipped. Why should power get the call when nicol played a good shot and power fell over going the wrong way. you cant hug your opponent when you cant get the ball. He was tired out, no surprise, still no excuse. No let, good call...
benjo0101 1 year ago 14
He fell over, that's why he was in a shit position, you can't fall behind the other guy then push through him to get a let. It's his fault, No let, the referee was correct and the commentators are fucking blind.
tbonewilson 1 year ago 4
Terrible call, that an automatic let at that level... let the players play.
mbalfour7 1 year ago
Nicol was in the way. That's most definitely a let...
edwinmelvin 1 year ago
It was let
MrAca97 1 year ago 2
Power did not have truth, this was no let.
ironben85 1 year ago
What's the difference between a no let and stroke?
mrbobevans 1 year ago
@mrbobevans OMG YOU ARE DUMB!!! dick ahaha
Dylanjharris1996 1 year ago
yea i can only agree with that
aRietD 2 years ago
the ref made a good decision, because power slipped when nicol played the shot so even if nicol wasn't in the way, it would have been insanely hard to reach that shot
RyanIThink 2 years ago
squash is alright but is very dangerous compare to tennis so thats why tennis is played by more people (heart attacks)
I seriously doubt that in squash you need exact timing the right grip to hit it back it no offence it looks like badminton with more power
DontHateaHater 2 years ago
If you don't have exact timing in squash you'll lose right away.
Monkey200728 2 years ago 2
@DontHateaHater i loled at that. "don't need timing" although it's true its more similar to badminton
SmanserRob 2 years ago
lol i do think he could have got to it but he when they made the desision you can hear him go "O MY GOD WHAT THE FUCK"
893160007 2 years ago
Rhythm gymnastics and ice dancing are Olympic sports and squash isn't. What a friggin joke.
mrbobevans 2 years ago 99
@mrbobevans Curling too.
guiguox 1 year ago
@mrbobevans, so fuckin true! Cheers mate!
pisaqW 1 year ago
@mrbobevans its cus theres not a big enough fan base in the fuckin USA.. fuck em
Skittles12324 1 year ago