if he wanted her he would have pursued her whether people likes it or not he was a man grow up and not a child for example lisa presley wanted to get back with her but he didn't want it , he wanted children and he had them even without presley,nobody stopped him to went out with brooke shileds ,diana ross and tatum o'neal so michael did what he wanted
I.think that she did want to be with michael but I thinl that michael was scared of how his fans would react to them being together I think that tatianna was heart broken
@MultiRedhearts I don't think he hated her, I think he saw through her. He was a very intelligent man he would of seen her being obsessive and gradly over time it would get worse. He never saw her after the kiss because he didn't love her, plus he was touring and he couldn't be distracted.
@GemziiGift oh ok...but it must of been sad that she didnt see him after becuz...well..they never even said goodbye..but anyway it was kind of her fault partly and michael jackson was sooo famous and yes michael jackson is bright and intelligent he is clever and smart ...yeah and i dunt thk michael jackson will "HATE" someone he has such a kind heart but just proberly not attracted for her ..
@MultiRedhearts She was out of her league. Michael even said he would like to go out with a woman with her own money so that they wouldn't be after his. Well Tatiana came across of being obsessive, maybe he thought she was after his money? She's always wanted to be big in Hollywood. Michael said this in Bravo magazine. He thought she was cute but thought nothing by it.
Michael didn't love her.. She told him that she wanted to be famous and she put the hopes of being famous before her emotions. That was probably a huge turnoff for Michael. She only kissed him because she thought that it would make her famous but instead her plan backfired, and she got fired by Michael. She shouldn't have used him, and she might have stayed around. Because, he probably really liked her. :(
Crocodile tears seriously. Man she knew what she was doing, she wanted to make it BIG in hollywood.
1) She was put in Michael's video the way you make me feel
She saw this as an opportunity to make it further into hollywood
2) Kissed him on stage.
Thought he liked it, she thought she would get more famous and make it in hollywood.
3) Back-fired in her face now she's living a whole new world in her mind thinking something went on when it really didn't she's not big in hollywood:)
@GemziiGift I totally agree. Tatiana made a complete and total ass out of herself. She is not big anywhere. I had not even heard of her until after Michael died and I started reading this stuff on YouTube. Michael didn't have a history of romancing the hired help. His choices for wives were not women who worked for him.
@hignuttlisa He said he would never go out with any girls he put in his videos because it spells trouble, he thought they were cute and thought nothing by it. Plus Tatiana was a huge fan of Michael, even if he speaks she would over-react saying he was flirting with her, just an obsessive girl.
Cont'd: "He knew her well as he said & he didn´t deny some chemistry,but he wanted the world to know that he always feels this chemistry when he works together with people & pointed out that there were no feelings of love like the media tried to let it look like."
Hope that helps w/ answers & the MJ fan told me that was mentioned in an interview that MJ did w/ I think it was "Bravo" magazine that was out at the time.
@GemziiGift Sorry to say, but it's not on YT, I had gotten that information in a Personal Message from an MJ fan at the time, although she's no longer on YT, but that's basically the info she had told me.
Cont'd: "I´ll never forget an interview the "Bravo" did w/ MJ after the legendary kiss.I tell you,Michael wasn´t happy about it & complained about Ms.Thumbtzen following him almost everywhere & not respecting his will!He also mentioned that she was more about making career in hollywood than having any feelings for him & that was obviously the reason why she kissed him in front of the audience."
Now I happen to like Tatiana a bit, since I can relate to her myself, however, a while back I'd gotten a PM from an MJ fan regarding the situation of what happened with MJ & TY & this is what was said according to an MJ fan:
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The reason why tatiana was confused about the whole thing is because katherine kept telling her that michael had feelings for her so you can't really fault nor blame tatiana. Joseph (michael's dad) didn't make it any better by claiming that michael was in love with tatiana in his "biography" tatiana was confused because she was being told things. Regarding the kiss - if michael wasn't down for it then he should have told her "no" and that would have been the end of that.
What does lisa marie have to do with this? Michael never publicly professed his love for lisa marie. He always professed his love for diana ross, tatum and brooke. Lisa marie was in the same boat with tatiana they were both used for pr simple as that. Let's not pretend michael married lisa marie at the most appropriate time the man was desperately trying to save his image on the back of false child abuse claims. Sorry to disappoint but the truth is the truth.
Tatiana was the video girl who caught feelings and wanted to take it a step futher but unfortunately it back-fired. Tatiana claims that his camp broke them apart but honestly speaking if MJ wanted her i do believe he would have been with her regardless of who said what. I think it was much easier for tatiana to cope with the pain by believing that others pulled MJ away from her when it was infact him who did it. Lisa marie publicly bashed him - so i wonder why all the hate towards tatiana?
I think I understand what may have happened due to personal experience. There was this guy that I knew and we became friends. But he wanted more so he began to make advances. I didn’t know what he was capable of if I rejected him. So I made him believe that my parents did not approve of him when in reality; I was the one that was pulling the strings. Maybe Michael wanted her to believe that his manager did not approve of her. Perhaps he considered the idea that she may try to harm him.
I read Tatiana's book The Way He Made Me Feel and it seems like Michael started acting up and treating her like crap after she made the funny comment in an interview about them dating ... the interviewer asked her if they were dating and she said "no, NOT YET" and I noticed that after that interview that she did, Michael started to act strange and distant toward Tatiana..
Like others on here are saying, we will never truly know the whole story because Michael is gone..
Can anyone explain to me what she said at the end when she was with those two actors and that was the last time she spoke to Michael? I couldn't understand what she was saying.
(Cont.) and close to tears...if not, she did cry... Also, I know Michael loved her a lot..from what I see, he just had a thing for any lady that was on tour with him or the lead lady for any of his short films. He's a flirt. I just watched a video of Karen leaning against Michael in "The Footage You Were Never Meant to See" and he LET it happen. Also, take the "Thriller" rehearsals. He was flirting with Ola Ray!!
@milkinmychocolate Not to mention Ola revealed that they did kiss sometimes. One lady in an interview even thought Michael maybe went to third base with Ola. Check it out in the "Proof that Michael loves the ladies" vid, if any of you all didn't see or don't believe me!!
@milkinmychocolate michael loved her a lot ? when did he admit he loved tatiana ? show me the real proofs , then michael said on rabbi tapes it was videos ladies who fell in love with him and that they wanted to date him but he didn't want it and not the contrary, tatiana changed her story with michael several times i don't think how she is can be believable that's the reason why people doesn't believe her very much
@MRcongiuhilda Well I heard he did love her on the video where Tatiana was interviewed by Maury about what happened with her and Michael. I think Maury played the tape where Michael's mother said that Michael told her he loved Tatiana. I don't know the title of the video but I think you'd find it under Tatiana Thumbzten interview. Btw, I know Tatiana is known for changing her story with Michael but because she has proof of him saying he loved her, I believe this:-)
@milkinmychocolate tatiana can says what she wants i don't care what cares what michael says from his mouth and when he was alive he never mentioned her like one of his loves and on rabbi tapes he talked about videos girls and he said it was they fell in love with him and not him so i don't believe tatiana , he always admitted he was always in love with diana ross only so i doubt that he was in love with tatiana maybe he loved her as a friend but not like he loved diana ross
@milkinmychocolate tatiana can says what she wants i don't care what cares what michael says from his mouth and when he was alive he never mentioned her like one of his loves and on rabbi tapes he talked about videos girls and he said it was they fell in love with him and not him so i don't believe tatiana , he always admitted he was always in love with diana ross only so i doubt that he was in love with tatiana maybe he loved her as a friend but not like he loved diana ross
OH. MY. GOSH!!! This IS so sad!! I cried when Tatiana told what happened with her and Michael!!! I could totally relate to her because I'm in love with Michael too!! Not to mention, I just read an MJ fantasy about a dancer who auditioned for Michael, got picked, and just ended up falling in love with him!!! I feel Tatiana's pain for Dileo firing her!! I don't understand how some of you all say she's lying about what happened with her and Michael!! She's really emotional about the whole thing
Some of you are saying Frank fired Tatiana. But Frank would of asked permission to fire her, or Michael could of told him to do the dirty work for him. Seen as he didn't like hurting womens feelings. TBH I think Tatiana tried to make up an apparent love story that happened between her and Michael. And couldn't face the truth, that it was Michael that fired HER not FRANK. No offence any Tatiana fans. But she just lies.
That faggot. I know he fucked all those kids. That's a given. The only question is: bubbles. Did he fuck the monkey? My theory is: Michael was substituting bubbles for Emanual Lewis.
she said different versions about this love story but what's the truth ? i don't think she is very believable plus michael never said about it or about her he never mentioned her like one of his loves of his life maybe he liked her as a friend but it doesn't mean he was so in love with her the love is another thing
Look guys i have been a michael jackson fan since 2009 and i have been a tatiana yvonne fan aswell i've readen her book , the simple thing if u guys haven't readen her book then u all just shut the fuck up u know, tatiana told that herself in her book that when she got fired that michael kept ignoring her and i think its frank dileo's fault and the working people that works with him i think theyr relationship was forbidden and michael does what he's orderd even tough it hurts him sooo bad.
It's complicated. We cannot forget tha MJ was QUITE shy. Perhaps when he met Lizha, he decided to open thE game about his feelings. It maybe too that perhaps he really didn't feel that much about her(Tattiana),... but it was his mother that told her he liked her... HIS MOTHER... IT'S SO COMPLICATED!!!
im getting annoyed of people saying, "They're the perfect couple."Firstly, Michael, we know, always have close relationship with women Tatiana was just another lady he was close with.Secondly,if Michael really loved her and wanted her, he would have pursued her,like how he pursued lisa.But in the end, he didnt.tatiana was just overly obssessed with mike and she thought he liked her too, she took advantage of him for publicity.Luckily michael didnt choose her to be his lady!
Something I don't understand is why Katherine and many other people told Tatiana that Michael liked her or loved her . Saying that Michael LOVED her is really taking things much too far in my opinion . Maybe he did have a little crush on her but LOVE? Come on now! He didn't even know her that well to love her! Not only that but Michael NEVER told her HIMSELF that he liked her or loved her ... I could understand Tatiana and how she was mislead...it was the people around her who mislead her..
According to Tatiana in her book, The Way He Made Me Feel, Michael treated her like shit basically after she kissed him onstage ... he started to treat her funny after the kiss onstage which makes me believe that he did not want a real relationship with her . Yeah, I think Michael might have saw Tatiana as "eye candy" or something like that ... but it's kind clear that he did not want a real relationship with her...everybody should read her book...then you will see things for yourself...
This woman was an employee for God's sake. She wasn't his girlfriend. He was under no obligation whatsoever to explain to her in private that he wasn't in love with her.
That is ridiculous. I don't understand people thinking that they should have had "the talk" when she was simply the hired help. You have a talk with someone that you are dating, not someone who is working for you. She got paid for her performance, she had no right to expect anything more.
Dammit, Michael Jackson was a human being and if he didn't like someone then he didn't have to be with them. I'm not trying to make excuses for him but before Tatiana came along there were so many women that just used him because he was famous. It must of been hell to live his life, none of us can comprehend the life that he had to live, thank goodness we don't have to live it ourselves.
This was one of the main problems for Michael. His mother and everyone else wanted to control his love life. When Michael himself made it clear that he was in love with Diana Ross and he wanted to marry her, no one in his inner circle was going to allow it to happen. Mainly because they felt it would hurt their career's & they felt Diana was too old for him. I think they should have let it happen between MJ & Diana because she was the type of strong woman he wanted & needed.
If Michael loved her he would have told her. He didn't have a problem telling Lisa Marie he loved her. This babe got fired because you don't do anything spontaneous with Michael's work. He was a fanatic about his concert routines and never deviated from them onstage. She kissed him and he kisssed her off and she deserved it.
@mzbeanie1 I don't know why, but I don't Believe some of the things that T spoke... I feel that she is very shallow in her feelings :P ....Mmmm and I totally agree with you, You're so right Dear friend... that's exactly what I think.
In one interview, she says the infamosus kiss was, "planned".. .and in this clip, "something came over me"...*blank stare*... this is SO confusing.... which one is it?!?
I saw this documentary, she also said she wanted to end it which was surprising to hear. She said it herself, she never heard Michael say anything to her , why did she let the illusions take the best of her? I believe Michael didnt feel comfortable with being setup, I mean I personally hate setups so I would understand him. This documentary also made it look like he was emotionally stuck as a child which explains why when he doesnt like to talk about sex as if it were a sin.
Frank Dileo fired her because she was a problem - period. Any 25 yr old who is stupid enough to alter the live performance of a superstar and think that it is OK is delusional. If she wanted to kiss him, she could have done it when he wasn't performing. It wasn't the kiss that was the problem, it was when she decided to do it that was the problem. She publicly embarrassed him and made a complete and total ass out of herself. Dileo couldn't take the risk of any more surprises during a performance
oh my god! i wonder what was michael told about her not being on tour any more..probaby that she decided to leave the tour?? im sure michael liked her A LOT and would have liked to speak to her if he could have made his own choices about his life...it`s terrible to be controlled by other people..
if i was tatiana omg i will cry my heart off i mean he was in love with her and he is so a nice person and because of this f**ing manager they can never be together.
@MichaelJacksonMyLive Frank did fire her, but Michael gave Frank the orders to fire her because Michael hated firing people. It is in an interview, I promise I am not lying to you. Michael wanted her gone because Tatiana simply did not do her job. Read Senoritavilleta's blog about this whole thing. This will make you understand why Michael fired her.
She's such a whiner. Watch any clip of MJ singing TWYMMF live and he always puts his hand on the girl's hip or thigh. Don't think you're so special hon that Michael does it specifically for you. And the whole lip-biting thing? That was a habit he had. So don't go around thinking MJ thought you were God's gift to him because you weren't.
@WackoJackoBabyfucker I DONT KNOW WHY U WASTE UR MOTHERFUCKING LIFE ND UR BREATH TALKING ABOUT ALL THE FUCKING IF U DDONT LIKE HIM GET THE FUCK OFF THE PAGE DICKHEAD
@WackoJackoBabyfucker YOU FUCKING DICKHEAD YOU GO 2 HELL BITCH...YEAH THAT'S RIGHT I HAVE SEEN UR PAGE ABOUT MICHAEL ND THATS NOT NICE,I HOPE U GET FUCKED UP BY SOME CRACKHEADS OF URS :(
This women is dislusional she and that Billie Jean lady should meet they have alot in common they both have created Fantasy involvement with Mike and as she said she had not even seen Michael since the 80's she needs to find a different way to get money and quit riding the memory of Michael Jackson she make me sick.
@Gavin123ism Thank you! I completely agree with you. It's time this woman got a real job and stop disgracing Michael, she's been doing it for so many goddamn years. Trying to make money off his name. I'm tired of ppl sayin there was some sort of love story between these two... If Michael wanted her he could have had her or any other woman for that matter. Tatiana is just another leech and she needs to go!
De MJ se dicen muchas cosas de que era pedofilo, pero sus acusadores se rectificaron, de que era gay, ahora esta chica cuenta una historia de que hubo algo entre ella y MJ, y que fue hechada por la madre y el manager de MJ, me pregunto porque hecharla por un beso, el era una hombre del cual no se estaban aprovechando salvo qu la madre y manager sepan que el era gay y que no le gustaban las mujeres, y si le gustaban no querian que halla asercamientos por si habia atraccion entre ellos
Please, it wasn't just about a kiss people--recognize dellusion when you see it. She tried to manipulate him and retaliated when her plan was foiled. Michael fired her--not his handlers. In fact, the handlers that she claims kept them apart were fired shortly after she was. So why didn't he go after her so they could live happier ever after? In her medicated brain "Love" equates to money and security. I wonder who was the better lover--Mike or Prince. Skank!!!!
If u go to Amazon and read the comments from the ppl who purchased her book and u still dont get it, then u r just as much in denial as she is.The readers r intelligent and knew that Tatiana is delusional. Read it and weep.
Well we will never know what happened. I agree Michael was very much in control of his business, but they could have poisoned his mind about her. If it were me though i would have approached this differently. I would have said hey i heard you liked me and talked about it privatly instead of kissing him during his performance, but that's just me.
Well we will never know what happened. I agree Michael was very much in control of his business, but they could have poisoned his mind about her. If it were me though i would have approached this differently. I would have said hey i heard you liked me and talked about it privatly instead of kissing him during his performance, but that's just me.
Well we will never know what happened. I agree Michael was very much in control of his business, but they could have poisoned his mind about her. On the other hand he told on the Schmuley tapes he did not like to let people go and let his managers do that for him, so both is possible.
i don't understand what MJ's manager did or said to keep MJ from talking to Tatiana.He's Michael Jackson for goodness sake, he can talk to whoever the hell he wants!! Does anyone know what happened and why they couldn't be together. There's too much missing information. Were they reading each other wrong and MJ took it as an obsessed fan that made her way into his video and tour? I don't get it. She's beautiful and seems like a nice person!
Every man has a plan Obviously, Tatiana was apart of Michael's plan or wanst the type of woman he wanted to persue because he didnt..he never spoke of her nor did he ever talk to her again
Shes stupid. Did anyone see his face in the picture after she kissed him? He didnt look to happy? Now if you had a feeling or information about this man that has feelings for you and you go and see him with 2 other people wouldnt you have pushed your way in there and try to talk to him? But she didnt she just crying over it.
Hey Dont you think if he wanted her.. He would have been with her.. Michael gets what he wants, if you know Michael you would know this part of him... Michael in his own words"Tatiana is sweet" he said, if he see's a girl getting a feeeling for him he walks the other way he dont mix employees with work... Tatiana did a bad thing, if Michael did nt want her there, then Frank took care of it.. and Cheryl took her place. Tatiana tells the truth later on.. Michael and her never dated.
If other people saw that it was easy to control him, then Tatiana would have seen the same thing. She tried to control him as well and it backfired on her, then she wanted to complain that people were controlling him. She was fine with control when she was the one trying to do it, but as soon as she was stopped she wanted to convince the world that he was being controlled.
@ hignuttlisa.. i totally agree. he needs his private life to be private. whatever happened in his past relationships is none of our business. we love him, we should respect him
They made a wise choice to get rid of her whether he was being controlled or not. The girl was bad news. Whoever heard of a 25 yr old nobody taking over a world tour and acting like she's the superstar's girlfriend. If he wasn't a grown man in heart or mind, then someone else had to be an adult and get rid of her - which is what they did. This was one very wise decision on the part of the people in control. She should have thought about how the controllers would react when she screwed up.
I don't think anyone hated her or talked bad about her,she just didn't follow the contract. Im pretty sure Frank&MJ had a contract for all that stuff.
No employee has a right to take it upon herself to think that it is alright to kiss the boss publicly or otherwise. The hired help is not automatically entitled to be the boss' girlfriend and when an individual is hired to do a job, they are expected to do what they have been hired to do. Nothing more. Tatiana was very unprofessional and she failed to perform her duties as instructed. The kiss publicly embarrassed MJ and his manager got rid of the problem. It was her fault that she lost her job
@itisMeC No wouldn't shit be different, he had his own fucking kids and nothing happened different. IF HE DIDN'T LISTEN TO HIS BROTHERS AND SISTERS ABOUT HIS ADDICTION TO MEDICATION THEN TATIANA WOULDN'T HAD MADE NO DIFFERENCE SO YOU AND ALL THESE OTHER TATIANA FANS NEED TO STOP SAYING HE WAS GONE BE ALIVE IF HE GOT WITH HER BECAUSE MJ NEEDED PROFESSIONAL HELP, HE WOULDN'T EVEN LISTEN TO HIS FAMILY.
Idk but I think that she lied about a lie that was the truth. I think MJ really liked her and he didn't say anything about the situation but I think that he sang it THATS WHY HE WROTE THE SONG DANGEROUS AND ALSO THOSE SONGS FROM THE DANGEROUS ALBUM EXPRESSING HIS FEELING TOWARDS HER!
Some people around MJ were very possesive and controling of him, Frank Dilleo, Karen Faye, Tohme Tohme. Maby Frank Dilleo had a crush on Michael, but i know that Tatiana is NOT lying. Karen Faye (his make up artist) says alot of bad things about Tatiana, Grace Rwaramba, Raymone , Tatiana also said that she just found out that Karen Faye used to tell MJ lies about her!Its known that Karen Faye didnt like any of the black girls around MJ, such as the nanny, who she wanted fired, Jealous staff!!!!
I think MJ had the right to choose his own women just like the rest of us have the right to choose our own partners and make our own mistakes. I don't understand why many of his fans seem to think that it is within their rights to choose his women for him. If he didn't want Tatiana, then he was under no obligation to have her. If he wanted Lisa and Debbie, then it is not within the rights of outsiders to interfere with that. He had the same rights as everyone else to choose his own women.
This is a topic we will never know the truth about. Or do we? Think about Michael Jackson. He was in control of nearly aspect of his life once he was "freed" from the regime/rule of his father Joe. Tatiyana was beautiful yes, but bottom line? If MJ wanted T to be the "Lady in His Life", she would've been there w/a ring. I think she got caught up in emotions & the thrill of being in his show. I think he would have kept her around IF HE WANTED HER. He was a grown ass man, right? R.I.P Michael.
I mean come on, if "everyone" is telling her that he loves her, but HE didn't say anything, maybe HE DIDN'T LOVE HER. People say dumb stuff all the time about who likes who, it's "he said, she said". I don't blame MJ for wanting to get rid of that middle school riff-raff. The whole story/situation sounds like school drama.
I don't think your right. Micheal was used to being told what to do, think, feel, so he listen to the wrong people. Michael was a grown man in appearance, not at heart or mind.
@clbzone Yes, he is a grown man who was capable of making good decisions. I do not like how Tatiana makes Michael out to be this kid who is so childish that he cannot make any good decisions. She only says that because he made a decision that she did not like.
@clbzone Seriously. I totally agree. Im thinking she should have been 100 percent sure by talking to him in private. She chose the worst time and the worst way possible to find out if he wanted her.If he really wanted her he would have created the opportunity to express that to her. He seems to be a professional at creating opportunities for himself.
i dont think that she should of been kicked off i mean it was a kiss people can get over it i mean come on who wouldn't wanna kiss MJ i mean like she said he did the sexiest thing "he bit his bottem lip" i would of kissed him too...Im so very sorry that his stupid manager had to be a a-hole and kick her off in my mind i think his manager was a lil bit JELLY (:
Tatiana is a beautiful woman and a good dancer. She should have spent the past 20 yrs focusing on her career instead of obsessing over something that was not meant to be. She is just one of many people who have lost out when it comes to love. Instead of wallowing in self pity and including the general public in it, she needs to quit moaning and groaning and move on. The woman is in her late forties by now. The man didn't want her. Life goes on. She was never entitled to him anyway.
He wasn't interested in Tatiana obviously. If he wanted to be with her he would have. No one told him who he could or couldn't date. She was totally out of line. He didn't want anything to do with her. I don't blame him. He did the right thing.
ok what i love about tatiana is she stayed single till the end and mj should've realize that you know. he was looking for love for a very long time, well theres the lonely heartbroken girl tatiana ahhhhh don't get me wrong i really am in love with michael jackson its just i'm a girl and i feel the pain for her i mean that memories are stuck in her head. maybe thats just life
they would have had the PRETTIEST kids.
MJFantasy09 2 days ago
bummer for tatiana thumbzten
123molly13 3 days ago
she so pretty, michael and she would be a cute couple!!! (but I know michael didnt love her.. but anyway)
justarandomgiirl1 1 week ago
this is sad he should have talked to her and told her whats up now she will never know
MrCoffeefreak2010 2 weeks ago
His bday is on the 29th
nickiminajfan761 2 weeks ago
Did anyone else notice this was posted up on michael's birthday?
Butterfly22281739 2 weeks ago
if he wanted her he would have pursued her whether people likes it or not he was a man grow up and not a child for example lisa presley wanted to get back with her but he didn't want it , he wanted children and he had them even without presley,nobody stopped him to went out with brooke shileds ,diana ross and tatum o'neal so michael did what he wanted
MRcongiuhilda 2 weeks ago
I.think that she did want to be with michael but I thinl that michael was scared of how his fans would react to them being together I think that tatianna was heart broken
Lovebunnykisses14 2 weeks ago
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nickilouu 1 month ago
Michael and Tatiana would have made a beautiful couple. She is a lovely looking lady.
BlueGr1 1 month ago 2
So did Michael hate her for that kiss? Do u know,? Did he want to c her after but couldn't?
MultiRedhearts 1 month ago
@MultiRedhearts I don't think he hated her, I think he saw through her. He was a very intelligent man he would of seen her being obsessive and gradly over time it would get worse. He never saw her after the kiss because he didn't love her, plus he was touring and he couldn't be distracted.
GemziiGift 1 month ago
@GemziiGift oh ok...but it must of been sad that she didnt see him after becuz...well..they never even said goodbye..but anyway it was kind of her fault partly and michael jackson was sooo famous and yes michael jackson is bright and intelligent he is clever and smart ...yeah and i dunt thk michael jackson will "HATE" someone he has such a kind heart but just proberly not attracted for her ..
MultiRedhearts 1 month ago
@MultiRedhearts She was out of her league. Michael even said he would like to go out with a woman with her own money so that they wouldn't be after his. Well Tatiana came across of being obsessive, maybe he thought she was after his money? She's always wanted to be big in Hollywood. Michael said this in Bravo magazine. He thought she was cute but thought nothing by it.
GemziiGift 1 month ago
@MultiRedhearts i think he wasnt expecting the kiss on stage but idk no one knows what really happen after the concert
jesselovelyred 2 weeks ago
@jesselovelyred oh i see...but whatever happened i dont think it turned out good or well !
MultiRedhearts 2 weeks ago
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pppfffffff lies lies lies
TheOldShowLover 2 months ago
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u got to admit he did kiss her in the mouth, how many women have u ever seen michael jackson kiss before
parkkbaby62 3 months ago
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Michael didn't love her.. She told him that she wanted to be famous and she put the hopes of being famous before her emotions. That was probably a huge turnoff for Michael. She only kissed him because she thought that it would make her famous but instead her plan backfired, and she got fired by Michael. She shouldn't have used him, and she might have stayed around. Because, he probably really liked her. :(
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TifoMjySt 3 months ago
Crocodile tears seriously. Man she knew what she was doing, she wanted to make it BIG in hollywood.
1) She was put in Michael's video the way you make me feel
She saw this as an opportunity to make it further into hollywood
2) Kissed him on stage.
Thought he liked it, she thought she would get more famous and make it in hollywood.
3) Back-fired in her face now she's living a whole new world in her mind thinking something went on when it really didn't she's not big in hollywood:)
Heheee
:)
GemziiGift 3 months ago
@GemziiGift I totally agree. Tatiana made a complete and total ass out of herself. She is not big anywhere. I had not even heard of her until after Michael died and I started reading this stuff on YouTube. Michael didn't have a history of romancing the hired help. His choices for wives were not women who worked for him.
hignuttlisa 2 months ago
@hignuttlisa He said he would never go out with any girls he put in his videos because it spells trouble, he thought they were cute and thought nothing by it. Plus Tatiana was a huge fan of Michael, even if he speaks she would over-react saying he was flirting with her, just an obsessive girl.
GemziiGift 2 months ago
Cont'd: "He knew her well as he said & he didn´t deny some chemistry,but he wanted the world to know that he always feels this chemistry when he works together with people & pointed out that there were no feelings of love like the media tried to let it look like."
Hope that helps w/ answers & the MJ fan told me that was mentioned in an interview that MJ did w/ I think it was "Bravo" magazine that was out at the time.
TheWayUMakeMeFeelMJ 3 months ago
@TheWayUMakeMeFeelMJ Is this on youtube? It seems very interesting:)
GemziiGift 3 months ago
@GemziiGift Sorry to say, but it's not on YT, I had gotten that information in a Personal Message from an MJ fan at the time, although she's no longer on YT, but that's basically the info she had told me.
TheWayUMakeMeFeelMJ 3 months ago
@TheWayUMakeMeFeelMJ Ohh right, well I still believe you. Thank you for sharing this information my friend.
GemziiGift 3 months ago
@GemziiGift U're more than welcome!!!!
TheWayUMakeMeFeelMJ 3 months ago
Cont'd: "I´ll never forget an interview the "Bravo" did w/ MJ after the legendary kiss.I tell you,Michael wasn´t happy about it & complained about Ms.Thumbtzen following him almost everywhere & not respecting his will!He also mentioned that she was more about making career in hollywood than having any feelings for him & that was obviously the reason why she kissed him in front of the audience."
TheWayUMakeMeFeelMJ 3 months ago
Now I happen to like Tatiana a bit, since I can relate to her myself, however, a while back I'd gotten a PM from an MJ fan regarding the situation of what happened with MJ & TY & this is what was said according to an MJ fan:
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TheWayUMakeMeFeelMJ 3 months ago
You guys should google:
Senoritavilleta's blog
Interesting analysis on Tatiana's tale.
SenoritaVilleta 4 months ago
The reason why tatiana was confused about the whole thing is because katherine kept telling her that michael had feelings for her so you can't really fault nor blame tatiana. Joseph (michael's dad) didn't make it any better by claiming that michael was in love with tatiana in his "biography" tatiana was confused because she was being told things. Regarding the kiss - if michael wasn't down for it then he should have told her "no" and that would have been the end of that.
Justbeingteyana 4 months ago
What does lisa marie have to do with this? Michael never publicly professed his love for lisa marie. He always professed his love for diana ross, tatum and brooke. Lisa marie was in the same boat with tatiana they were both used for pr simple as that. Let's not pretend michael married lisa marie at the most appropriate time the man was desperately trying to save his image on the back of false child abuse claims. Sorry to disappoint but the truth is the truth.
Justbeingteyana 4 months ago
Tatiana was the video girl who caught feelings and wanted to take it a step futher but unfortunately it back-fired. Tatiana claims that his camp broke them apart but honestly speaking if MJ wanted her i do believe he would have been with her regardless of who said what. I think it was much easier for tatiana to cope with the pain by believing that others pulled MJ away from her when it was infact him who did it. Lisa marie publicly bashed him - so i wonder why all the hate towards tatiana?
Justbeingteyana 4 months ago
I think I understand what may have happened due to personal experience. There was this guy that I knew and we became friends. But he wanted more so he began to make advances. I didn’t know what he was capable of if I rejected him. So I made him believe that my parents did not approve of him when in reality; I was the one that was pulling the strings. Maybe Michael wanted her to believe that his manager did not approve of her. Perhaps he considered the idea that she may try to harm him.
7White7Night7 4 months ago
You guys should google:
Senoritavilleta's blog
Interesting analysis on Tatiana's tale.
SenoritaVilleta 4 months ago
I read Tatiana's book The Way He Made Me Feel and it seems like Michael started acting up and treating her like crap after she made the funny comment in an interview about them dating ... the interviewer asked her if they were dating and she said "no, NOT YET" and I noticed that after that interview that she did, Michael started to act strange and distant toward Tatiana..
Like others on here are saying, we will never truly know the whole story because Michael is gone..
EternallyHurt 4 months ago
Can anyone explain to me what she said at the end when she was with those two actors and that was the last time she spoke to Michael? I couldn't understand what she was saying.
BlackorWhite0920 4 months ago
(Cont.) and close to tears...if not, she did cry... Also, I know Michael loved her a lot..from what I see, he just had a thing for any lady that was on tour with him or the lead lady for any of his short films. He's a flirt. I just watched a video of Karen leaning against Michael in "The Footage You Were Never Meant to See" and he LET it happen. Also, take the "Thriller" rehearsals. He was flirting with Ola Ray!!
milkinmychocolate 4 months ago
@milkinmychocolate Not to mention Ola revealed that they did kiss sometimes. One lady in an interview even thought Michael maybe went to third base with Ola. Check it out in the "Proof that Michael loves the ladies" vid, if any of you all didn't see or don't believe me!!
milkinmychocolate 4 months ago
@milkinmychocolate michael loved her a lot ? when did he admit he loved tatiana ? show me the real proofs , then michael said on rabbi tapes it was videos ladies who fell in love with him and that they wanted to date him but he didn't want it and not the contrary, tatiana changed her story with michael several times i don't think how she is can be believable that's the reason why people doesn't believe her very much
MRcongiuhilda 4 months ago
@MRcongiuhilda Well I heard he did love her on the video where Tatiana was interviewed by Maury about what happened with her and Michael. I think Maury played the tape where Michael's mother said that Michael told her he loved Tatiana. I don't know the title of the video but I think you'd find it under Tatiana Thumbzten interview. Btw, I know Tatiana is known for changing her story with Michael but because she has proof of him saying he loved her, I believe this:-)
milkinmychocolate 4 months ago
@milkinmychocolate tatiana can says what she wants i don't care what cares what michael says from his mouth and when he was alive he never mentioned her like one of his loves and on rabbi tapes he talked about videos girls and he said it was they fell in love with him and not him so i don't believe tatiana , he always admitted he was always in love with diana ross only so i doubt that he was in love with tatiana maybe he loved her as a friend but not like he loved diana ross
MRcongiuhilda 4 months ago
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@milkinmychocolate tatiana can says what she wants i don't care what cares what michael says from his mouth and when he was alive he never mentioned her like one of his loves and on rabbi tapes he talked about videos girls and he said it was they fell in love with him and not him so i don't believe tatiana , he always admitted he was always in love with diana ross only so i doubt that he was in love with tatiana maybe he loved her as a friend but not like he loved diana ross
MRcongiuhilda 4 months ago
OH. MY. GOSH!!! This IS so sad!! I cried when Tatiana told what happened with her and Michael!!! I could totally relate to her because I'm in love with Michael too!! Not to mention, I just read an MJ fantasy about a dancer who auditioned for Michael, got picked, and just ended up falling in love with him!!! I feel Tatiana's pain for Dileo firing her!! I don't understand how some of you all say she's lying about what happened with her and Michael!! She's really emotional about the whole thing
milkinmychocolate 4 months ago
Some of you are saying Frank fired Tatiana. But Frank would of asked permission to fire her, or Michael could of told him to do the dirty work for him. Seen as he didn't like hurting womens feelings. TBH I think Tatiana tried to make up an apparent love story that happened between her and Michael. And couldn't face the truth, that it was Michael that fired HER not FRANK. No offence any Tatiana fans. But she just lies.
GemziiGift 5 months ago 22
@GemziiGift There is no doubt,Michael was a perfectionist!
chilko5 1 month ago
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You guys should google:
Senoritavilleta's blog
Interesting analysis on Tatiana's tale.
SenoritaVilleta 5 months ago
i think they would of beed the best cuple ever
BitchFawker 5 months ago
@wppw123 shut the fuck up!!!!!!
MJLovesMe1009 5 months ago
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That faggot. I know he fucked all those kids. That's a given. The only question is: bubbles. Did he fuck the monkey? My theory is: Michael was substituting bubbles for Emanual Lewis.
wppw123 6 months ago
she said different versions about this love story but what's the truth ? i don't think she is very believable plus michael never said about it or about her he never mentioned her like one of his loves of his life maybe he liked her as a friend but it doesn't mean he was so in love with her the love is another thing
mrsceciliafarigu 6 months ago
She shouldn't of kissed him on stage, simple as that! It's her loss.
GemziiGift 6 months ago
They would of been a good couple :(
Aguilar213661 6 months ago
so sad
Ladymodel 6 months ago
I thought MJ tole Tatiana to kiss her.
99annanic 6 months ago
Can some please get or find someone who went to that concert.
99annanic 6 months ago
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i thought MJ told Tatiana to kiss him, can some please get or find someone who went to that concert.
99annanic 6 months ago
i thought MJ told Tatiana to kiss him, can some please get or find someone who went to that concert
99annanic 6 months ago
i thought MJ told Tatiana to kiss him, can some please get or find someone who went to that concert!
99annanic 6 months ago
Look guys i have been a michael jackson fan since 2009 and i have been a tatiana yvonne fan aswell i've readen her book , the simple thing if u guys haven't readen her book then u all just shut the fuck up u know, tatiana told that herself in her book that when she got fired that michael kept ignoring her and i think its frank dileo's fault and the working people that works with him i think theyr relationship was forbidden and michael does what he's orderd even tough it hurts him sooo bad.
sexydivaxoxox 6 months ago
They were so cute together!! ;(
mikejackson9 6 months ago
sad story :/
EllienThumbtzen777 6 months ago
It's complicated. We cannot forget tha MJ was QUITE shy. Perhaps when he met Lizha, he decided to open thE game about his feelings. It maybe too that perhaps he really didn't feel that much about her(Tattiana),... but it was his mother that told her he liked her... HIS MOTHER... IT'S SO COMPLICATED!!!
16melica 7 months ago
Tatiana Thumbtzen (the girl from the video) is a former call girl. Check this video out: '94 Tatiana disuss Michael in book "Once More With Feelings"
AscendoLight 7 months ago
im getting annoyed of people saying, "They're the perfect couple."Firstly, Michael, we know, always have close relationship with women Tatiana was just another lady he was close with.Secondly,if Michael really loved her and wanted her, he would have pursued her,like how he pursued lisa.But in the end, he didnt.tatiana was just overly obssessed with mike and she thought he liked her too, she took advantage of him for publicity.Luckily michael didnt choose her to be his lady!
starrysongs 7 months ago
Wow. Haha whatever this shit was stupid he wasnt obssessed with u hun he could have any girl he wants i dont think he would choose u
Aaphabetical123 7 months ago
Something I don't understand is why Katherine and many other people told Tatiana that Michael liked her or loved her . Saying that Michael LOVED her is really taking things much too far in my opinion . Maybe he did have a little crush on her but LOVE? Come on now! He didn't even know her that well to love her! Not only that but Michael NEVER told her HIMSELF that he liked her or loved her ... I could understand Tatiana and how she was mislead...it was the people around her who mislead her..
EternallyHurt 8 months ago
According to Tatiana in her book, The Way He Made Me Feel, Michael treated her like shit basically after she kissed him onstage ... he started to treat her funny after the kiss onstage which makes me believe that he did not want a real relationship with her . Yeah, I think Michael might have saw Tatiana as "eye candy" or something like that ... but it's kind clear that he did not want a real relationship with her...everybody should read her book...then you will see things for yourself...
EternallyHurt 8 months ago
Why would you sob like that over something so minor and so long ago?
Vegheadsrock 8 months ago
he did not call u because he has a lot of work
ems629 8 months ago
he did not call u because he has a lot of work
and he tors thats y.....
ems629 8 months ago
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hey guys please put the video subtitled in Spanish please. I'm from peru and fan of michael please subtitling. thanks
salomestar1 8 months ago
hey guys please put the video subtitled in Spanish please. I'm from peru and fan of michael please subtitling. thanks
salomestar1 8 months ago
hey guys please put the video subtitled in Spanish please. I'm from peru and fan of michael please subtitling. thanks
salomestar1 8 months ago
did michael fire her because she kiss him?
tinkerbellxx101 9 months ago
un favorsote plisssssssssss
traducelo en españollll siiiiiii??????
salomestar1 9 months ago
OH HELL NO!!
maniilovex3 9 months ago
This woman was an employee for God's sake. She wasn't his girlfriend. He was under no obligation whatsoever to explain to her in private that he wasn't in love with her.
That is ridiculous. I don't understand people thinking that they should have had "the talk" when she was simply the hired help. You have a talk with someone that you are dating, not someone who is working for you. She got paid for her performance, she had no right to expect anything more.
hignuttlisa 10 months ago
serves her right-- stupid bitch
45nthrivn 10 months ago
Dammit, Michael Jackson was a human being and if he didn't like someone then he didn't have to be with them. I'm not trying to make excuses for him but before Tatiana came along there were so many women that just used him because he was famous. It must of been hell to live his life, none of us can comprehend the life that he had to live, thank goodness we don't have to live it ourselves.
jkool20 10 months ago
This was one of the main problems for Michael. His mother and everyone else wanted to control his love life. When Michael himself made it clear that he was in love with Diana Ross and he wanted to marry her, no one in his inner circle was going to allow it to happen. Mainly because they felt it would hurt their career's & they felt Diana was too old for him. I think they should have let it happen between MJ & Diana because she was the type of strong woman he wanted & needed.
1untoldlove 11 months ago
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ooh that story is so sad! poor Tatiana
TheKimboMJ 11 months ago
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ooh that story is so sad poor girl
TheKimboMJ 11 months ago
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ooh that story is so sad poor Tatiana
TheKimboMJ 11 months ago
ooh that story is so sad poor Tatiana :(
TheKimboMJ 11 months ago
ooh that story is so sad poor Tatiana :'(
TheKimboMJ 11 months ago
You guys should google:
Senoritavilleta's blog
Interesting analysis on Tatiana's tale.
SenoritaVilleta 1 year ago
What did she say happened when she went to hus trailer??? he didnt come out? i couldnt understand what she said....she was sobbing too much! lol
charleechafiare90 1 year ago
If Michael loved her he would have told her. He didn't have a problem telling Lisa Marie he loved her. This babe got fired because you don't do anything spontaneous with Michael's work. He was a fanatic about his concert routines and never deviated from them onstage. She kissed him and he kisssed her off and she deserved it.
mzbeanie1 1 year ago 24
@mzbeanie1 I don't know why, but I don't Believe some of the things that T spoke... I feel that she is very shallow in her feelings :P ....Mmmm and I totally agree with you, You're so right Dear friend... that's exactly what I think.
ThePrettyyounthing 7 months ago
@mzbeanie1 I Never heard or seen Michael Jackson say he loved Lisa Marie.
heavensentxoxox 5 months ago
@mzbeanie1 yeah son!!!!!!!!!!
selenasutherland73 4 months ago
LIES!!!!!!
julia6191 1 year ago
omg micheal was like in a cage
laolaz 1 year ago
he wouldve been a happy man and they would make cute babies im bummed
missmadhouse011 1 year ago
In one interview, she says the infamosus kiss was, "planned".. .and in this clip, "something came over me"...*blank stare*... this is SO confusing.... which one is it?!?
Shellboo0828 1 year ago
I saw this documentary, she also said she wanted to end it which was surprising to hear. She said it herself, she never heard Michael say anything to her , why did she let the illusions take the best of her? I believe Michael didnt feel comfortable with being setup, I mean I personally hate setups so I would understand him. This documentary also made it look like he was emotionally stuck as a child which explains why when he doesnt like to talk about sex as if it were a sin.
kameco69 1 year ago
Frank Dileo fired her because she was a problem - period. Any 25 yr old who is stupid enough to alter the live performance of a superstar and think that it is OK is delusional. If she wanted to kiss him, she could have done it when he wasn't performing. It wasn't the kiss that was the problem, it was when she decided to do it that was the problem. She publicly embarrassed him and made a complete and total ass out of herself. Dileo couldn't take the risk of any more surprises during a performance
hignuttlisa 1 year ago 3
oh my god! i wonder what was michael told about her not being on tour any more..probaby that she decided to leave the tour?? im sure michael liked her A LOT and would have liked to speak to her if he could have made his own choices about his life...it`s terrible to be controlled by other people..
Ka88ren 1 year ago
if i was tatiana omg i will cry my heart off i mean he was in love with her and he is so a nice person and because of this f**ing manager they can never be together.
how stipid is that??
sweetferuza 1 year ago
Did Frank Deleo fired her because they kissed?
MichaelJacksonMyLive 1 year ago
@MichaelJacksonMyLive Frank did fire her, but Michael gave Frank the orders to fire her because Michael hated firing people. It is in an interview, I promise I am not lying to you. Michael wanted her gone because Tatiana simply did not do her job. Read Senoritavilleta's blog about this whole thing. This will make you understand why Michael fired her.
megzwelch 1 year ago
@MichaelJacksonMyLive yeah stupid right?
emilie54321 1 year ago
@MichaelJacksonMyLive yep-__-.
nicksguitariphone 1 year ago
She's such a whiner. Watch any clip of MJ singing TWYMMF live and he always puts his hand on the girl's hip or thigh. Don't think you're so special hon that Michael does it specifically for you. And the whole lip-biting thing? That was a habit he had. So don't go around thinking MJ thought you were God's gift to him because you weren't.
lucaslover528 1 year ago
Aww man, this makes me soooo mad! Why did those fuckers did this to her? DAMN IT! She and Michael were soooo cute together!
AndreyZidaneTM 1 year ago
she makes me sick...
caroltam711 1 year ago
I think it was HER who had the biggest crush on him! Heehe. ;P
MJJMoonwalker 1 year ago
@WackoJackoBabyfucker I DONT KNOW WHY U WASTE UR MOTHERFUCKING LIFE ND UR BREATH TALKING ABOUT ALL THE FUCKING IF U DDONT LIKE HIM GET THE FUCK OFF THE PAGE DICKHEAD
MsAshanti14 1 year ago 8
@WackoJackoBabyfucker YOU FUCKING DICKHEAD YOU GO 2 HELL BITCH...YEAH THAT'S RIGHT I HAVE SEEN UR PAGE ABOUT MICHAEL ND THATS NOT NICE,I HOPE U GET FUCKED UP BY SOME CRACKHEADS OF URS :(
MsAshanti14 1 year ago
This women is dislusional she and that Billie Jean lady should meet they have alot in common they both have created Fantasy involvement with Mike and as she said she had not even seen Michael since the 80's she needs to find a different way to get money and quit riding the memory of Michael Jackson she make me sick.
Gavin123ism 1 year ago
@Gavin123ism Thank you! I completely agree with you. It's time this woman got a real job and stop disgracing Michael, she's been doing it for so many goddamn years. Trying to make money off his name. I'm tired of ppl sayin there was some sort of love story between these two... If Michael wanted her he could have had her or any other woman for that matter. Tatiana is just another leech and she needs to go!
Rest peacefully Mike.
reptile85 1 year ago
0:19 she's gorgeous !
MsMacbook123 1 year ago
De MJ se dicen muchas cosas de que era pedofilo, pero sus acusadores se rectificaron, de que era gay, ahora esta chica cuenta una historia de que hubo algo entre ella y MJ, y que fue hechada por la madre y el manager de MJ, me pregunto porque hecharla por un beso, el era una hombre del cual no se estaban aprovechando salvo qu la madre y manager sepan que el era gay y que no le gustaban las mujeres, y si le gustaban no querian que halla asercamientos por si habia atraccion entre ellos
delfinajaim 1 year ago
I'll have mj then he's hot as hell!!!!!!:)
Mjisalive123 1 year ago
I feel bad for her :(
*Hug for Tatiana bb*
LiberianGirl1122 1 year ago
You guys should google:
Senoritavilleta's blog
Interesting analysis on Tatiana's tale.
SenoritaVilleta 1 year ago
Please, it wasn't just about a kiss people--recognize dellusion when you see it. She tried to manipulate him and retaliated when her plan was foiled. Michael fired her--not his handlers. In fact, the handlers that she claims kept them apart were fired shortly after she was. So why didn't he go after her so they could live happier ever after? In her medicated brain "Love" equates to money and security. I wonder who was the better lover--Mike or Prince. Skank!!!!
Patty5825 1 year ago
@WackoJackoBabyfucker how the hell is he a queer when he dated her dumeass
mjandthgirl 1 year ago
iiwill take you Tatiana ...come by my trailer
coolbreezeHD 1 year ago
You guys should google:
Senoritavilleta's blog
Interesting analysis about tatiana's tale
SenoritaVilleta 1 year ago
If u go to Amazon and read the comments from the ppl who purchased her book and u still dont get it, then u r just as much in denial as she is.The readers r intelligent and knew that Tatiana is delusional. Read it and weep.
usaearthling 1 year ago
@usaearthling are you saying she loved him but he didn't love her?
funnygirl100heyjude 1 year ago
obviously he didn't want her.
"their" lips weren't locked. it was "she".
MonBeauAmour 1 year ago
god....
...to much drama xP
KazamaGirl 1 year ago
That is sooooooo sexy the way he bites his bottom lip.
He was that kinds guy.
Very very flirty
MJsMysterygirl 1 year ago
after he was accused for the 2nd time she said
"i wish i could believe him, i wish him the best of luck"
it slike she saying his guilty good luck.
love you mj!
xXUniqueDiamondXx 1 year ago
Well we will never know what happened. I agree Michael was very much in control of his business, but they could have poisoned his mind about her. If it were me though i would have approached this differently. I would have said hey i heard you liked me and talked about it privatly instead of kissing him during his performance, but that's just me.
FlyByNight30 1 year ago
Well we will never know what happened. I agree Michael was very much in control of his business, but they could have poisoned his mind about her. If it were me though i would have approached this differently. I would have said hey i heard you liked me and talked about it privatly instead of kissing him during his performance, but that's just me.
FlyByNight30 1 year ago
Well we will never know what happened. I agree Michael was very much in control of his business, but they could have poisoned his mind about her. On the other hand he told on the Schmuley tapes he did not like to let people go and let his managers do that for him, so both is possible.
FlyByNight30 1 year ago
Poor girl.
FlyByNight30 1 year ago
@ranmae57: what games do you mean?
FlyByNight30 1 year ago
this story is very complicated to understand what really happened
hilmj81 1 year ago 3
Of course MJ could talk to whoever he wanted. He simply didn't want the woman.
hignuttlisa 1 year ago 4
I think that
Lia marie and Micheal
were very good together
she may have been
mean looking but
you could tell they loved each other
spitfirehotty 1 year ago
i don't understand what MJ's manager did or said to keep MJ from talking to Tatiana.He's Michael Jackson for goodness sake, he can talk to whoever the hell he wants!! Does anyone know what happened and why they couldn't be together. There's too much missing information. Were they reading each other wrong and MJ took it as an obsessed fan that made her way into his video and tour? I don't get it. She's beautiful and seems like a nice person!
givintomemike 1 year ago 3
it's a shame, tatiana seems like a beautiful person inside&out, and clearly cared alot about Michael....unlike Lisa...ugh.
imanmjfanforever 1 year ago
@imanmjfanforever I agree all the way.
truenangelforever 1 year ago
Every man has a plan Obviously, Tatiana was apart of Michael's plan or wanst the type of woman he wanted to persue because he didnt..he never spoke of her nor did he ever talk to her again
Ladymodel 1 year ago
Well, I know one thing for sure: MJ was INTO that kiss. Look @ the body language, WOW. He seems so passionate -_-
bkgangstashawtii 1 year ago
Shes stupid. Did anyone see his face in the picture after she kissed him? He didnt look to happy? Now if you had a feeling or information about this man that has feelings for you and you go and see him with 2 other people wouldnt you have pushed your way in there and try to talk to him? But she didnt she just crying over it.
JuJuMJFan4life 1 year ago
Hey Dont you think if he wanted her.. He would have been with her.. Michael gets what he wants, if you know Michael you would know this part of him... Michael in his own words"Tatiana is sweet" he said, if he see's a girl getting a feeeling for him he walks the other way he dont mix employees with work... Tatiana did a bad thing, if Michael did nt want her there, then Frank took care of it.. and Cheryl took her place. Tatiana tells the truth later on.. Michael and her never dated.
MJFriend4Life 1 year ago
Does anyone no were I can see the full thing were they kiss??? Not in pictures tho...
08Mjj58 1 year ago
If other people saw that it was easy to control him, then Tatiana would have seen the same thing. She tried to control him as well and it backfired on her, then she wanted to complain that people were controlling him. She was fine with control when she was the one trying to do it, but as soon as she was stopped she wanted to convince the world that he was being controlled.
hignuttlisa 1 year ago
oh my god..
LauraMJFan 1 year ago
@ hignuttlisa.. i totally agree. he needs his private life to be private. whatever happened in his past relationships is none of our business. we love him, we should respect him
kb10skee 1 year ago
They made a wise choice to get rid of her whether he was being controlled or not. The girl was bad news. Whoever heard of a 25 yr old nobody taking over a world tour and acting like she's the superstar's girlfriend. If he wasn't a grown man in heart or mind, then someone else had to be an adult and get rid of her - which is what they did. This was one very wise decision on the part of the people in control. She should have thought about how the controllers would react when she screwed up.
hignuttlisa 1 year ago
I don't think anyone hated her or talked bad about her,she just didn't follow the contract. Im pretty sure Frank&MJ had a contract for all that stuff.
keniro13 1 year ago 4
No employee has a right to take it upon herself to think that it is alright to kiss the boss publicly or otherwise. The hired help is not automatically entitled to be the boss' girlfriend and when an individual is hired to do a job, they are expected to do what they have been hired to do. Nothing more. Tatiana was very unprofessional and she failed to perform her duties as instructed. The kiss publicly embarrassed MJ and his manager got rid of the problem. It was her fault that she lost her job
hignuttlisa 2 years ago 3
I don't agree. Tatiana was Michaels one and only. Things would have been very different for Michael in a good way if they got together
itisMeC 1 year ago
@itisMeC No wouldn't shit be different, he had his own fucking kids and nothing happened different. IF HE DIDN'T LISTEN TO HIS BROTHERS AND SISTERS ABOUT HIS ADDICTION TO MEDICATION THEN TATIANA WOULDN'T HAD MADE NO DIFFERENCE SO YOU AND ALL THESE OTHER TATIANA FANS NEED TO STOP SAYING HE WAS GONE BE ALIVE IF HE GOT WITH HER BECAUSE MJ NEEDED PROFESSIONAL HELP, HE WOULDN'T EVEN LISTEN TO HIS FAMILY.
keniro13 1 year ago
no it wasn't her fault! it was a game that michael played, it's all in the book, the mj tapes!
ranmae57 1 year ago
@ranmae57 What kind of game do you mean? I did read that he let other people fire people for him as he hated to do that. Is that what you mean?
FlyByNight30 1 year ago
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@ranmae57 What kind of game do you mean? I did read that he let other people fire people for him as he hated to do that. Is that what you mean?
FlyByNight30 1 year ago
omg I feel bad for her :/ that sucks so bad.
foofie91 2 years ago 3
Idk but I think that she lied about a lie that was the truth. I think MJ really liked her and he didn't say anything about the situation but I think that he sang it THATS WHY HE WROTE THE SONG DANGEROUS AND ALSO THOSE SONGS FROM THE DANGEROUS ALBUM EXPRESSING HIS FEELING TOWARDS HER!
SuperKittykat94 2 years ago
Some people around MJ were very possesive and controling of him, Frank Dilleo, Karen Faye, Tohme Tohme. Maby Frank Dilleo had a crush on Michael, but i know that Tatiana is NOT lying. Karen Faye (his make up artist) says alot of bad things about Tatiana, Grace Rwaramba, Raymone , Tatiana also said that she just found out that Karen Faye used to tell MJ lies about her!Its known that Karen Faye didnt like any of the black girls around MJ, such as the nanny, who she wanted fired, Jealous staff!!!!
MsAmberSanders 2 years ago
I think MJ had the right to choose his own women just like the rest of us have the right to choose our own partners and make our own mistakes. I don't understand why many of his fans seem to think that it is within their rights to choose his women for him. If he didn't want Tatiana, then he was under no obligation to have her. If he wanted Lisa and Debbie, then it is not within the rights of outsiders to interfere with that. He had the same rights as everyone else to choose his own women.
hignuttlisa 2 years ago 61
@hignuttlisa U r very much right XD
zubingala1 6 months ago
This is a topic we will never know the truth about. Or do we? Think about Michael Jackson. He was in control of nearly aspect of his life once he was "freed" from the regime/rule of his father Joe. Tatiyana was beautiful yes, but bottom line? If MJ wanted T to be the "Lady in His Life", she would've been there w/a ring. I think she got caught up in emotions & the thrill of being in his show. I think he would have kept her around IF HE WANTED HER. He was a grown ass man, right? R.I.P Michael.
clbzone 2 years ago 36
@clbzone I agree.
I mean come on, if "everyone" is telling her that he loves her, but HE didn't say anything, maybe HE DIDN'T LOVE HER. People say dumb stuff all the time about who likes who, it's "he said, she said". I don't blame MJ for wanting to get rid of that middle school riff-raff. The whole story/situation sounds like school drama.
lovelyoneandonly1 1 year ago 6
@lovelyoneandonly1 OMG your soo right, I hate when that happens, it happens all the time!
keniro13 1 year ago
I don't think your right. Micheal was used to being told what to do, think, feel, so he listen to the wrong people. Michael was a grown man in appearance, not at heart or mind.
itisMeC 1 year ago
mike was a game player, i'm glad i bought the mj tapes, schmuley told on him!
ranmae57 1 year ago
@clbzone Yes, he is a grown man who was capable of making good decisions. I do not like how Tatiana makes Michael out to be this kid who is so childish that he cannot make any good decisions. She only says that because he made a decision that she did not like.
megzwelch 1 year ago
@clbzone Seriously. I totally agree. Im thinking she should have been 100 percent sure by talking to him in private. She chose the worst time and the worst way possible to find out if he wanted her.If he really wanted her he would have created the opportunity to express that to her. He seems to be a professional at creating opportunities for himself.
taushahamon 1 year ago
For the first time I feel so sorry for Tatiana...
Vilma5082 2 years ago 2
i dont think that she should of been kicked off i mean it was a kiss people can get over it i mean come on who wouldn't wanna kiss MJ i mean like she said he did the sexiest thing "he bit his bottem lip" i would of kissed him too...Im so very sorry that his stupid manager had to be a a-hole and kick her off in my mind i think his manager was a lil bit JELLY (:
brittybritt1995 2 years ago 2
Tatiana is a beautiful woman and a good dancer. She should have spent the past 20 yrs focusing on her career instead of obsessing over something that was not meant to be. She is just one of many people who have lost out when it comes to love. Instead of wallowing in self pity and including the general public in it, she needs to quit moaning and groaning and move on. The woman is in her late forties by now. The man didn't want her. Life goes on. She was never entitled to him anyway.
hignuttlisa 2 years ago 10
He wasn't interested in Tatiana obviously. If he wanted to be with her he would have. No one told him who he could or couldn't date. She was totally out of line. He didn't want anything to do with her. I don't blame him. He did the right thing.
Sandrew29 2 years ago 8
ummm yall lucky she just kiss him ill do more than kiss him ill would rape him on stage l0l jk mabye l0l
babyl0vewazhere 2 years ago
ok what i love about tatiana is she stayed single till the end and mj should've realize that you know. he was looking for love for a very long time, well theres the lonely heartbroken girl tatiana ahhhhh don't get me wrong i really am in love with michael jackson its just i'm a girl and i feel the pain for her i mean that memories are stuck in her head. maybe thats just life
i love you michael jackson u are my baby♥
ssassykapuso17 2 years ago 2