Seymour Hersh: Fatah Al-Islam Crisis in Lebanon

[kocktoe]

this man is great at making sense of the situation, and if you look at current events now in Syria, you can see that this mans analysis is correct, in the tools being used.

[BrolicTank]

lol fuck fatah they losing to there superior rivals

[Ibbe88]

Fouad Saniora is still enjoying full support from the US goverment. Even Obama don't seem to care about what Saniora done to the lebanese people. During the protests of 3rd december 2006, Bush gave full support to Saniora even when more than 1 million lebanese (about 25 percent of the total population) participated in the protests. Democracy? Where? Nowhere...nowhere at all...

Still, I'm glad the lebanese troops gave those al-qaedists hell.

[Foolnigga]

oh yeah you can tell this guy below me is a genius

"HES A TERRORIST!!" right?

come off it you moron

[momozaid]

Symour Herch is a traitor he is a liar he got his money from a guy in Lebanon he is getting big money

[Saqral3rab]

Bush is the killer not Saddam

STUPID AMERICANS

[AkatsukiKanjiKana3]

You have to get to the bottom line man. What are u trying to say? America vs Radical Islam or America supports Islamic Jihad on targetted Infidel nations such as Europe, Israel, India etc.? I know America is a notorious nation. Muslims nations are much worse. They are based on Totalitarianism, dictatorships & autocracies. The citizens of these countries have little to no freedom and are forced to shove Islam (a racial supremacist ideology like Nazism) & its ancient principles down their throats.

[AkatsukiKanjiKana3]

You are right that Saudi Arabia and America are the best of freinds. But hello, that's only because of the Saudi's oil. Even Islam will die out as their oil is fully depleted. Without its oil reserves it long wud've been wiped out by USA or Israel or any other 'powerful' non-muslim nation for the religious totalitarianism that it has (and continuously does) spread around the world with its religous wars on dar-al-Harb (House of Infidels) to be turned into dar-al-Islam (a complete Muslim State).

[AkatsukiKanjiKana3]

Saudi doesn't manufacture anything to America, it is of no use to America as its economy is not dependant on it, but many undeveloped Muslim nations dependant on Aid are on the US's payroll, not just Israel. Israel does NOT control the mid-east, for if they did that wud mean they control much of the muslim world which is an impossibility.

[mingoi313]

Where did Israel come into this? If you don't have anything of substance to say and you want to dance and jolly around parading your ignorance, then be my guest - but I'd suggest something like playing with the traffic to gratify your boredom, or ignorance.

[mingoi313]

You live in a hypostatized world, of good and evil. You also think in a way that is very unique for someone who lives in a monotonous world of good verses bad; because you thinks the means are expendable. As a result, you paint a generalized picture of the Muslim world and Islam to fit into this hypostatized bubble which is convenient to your level of intellect.

There is the Islam of the Al Qaeda, and there is the Islam which stands against Al Qaeda.

[mingoi313]

Muslim nations are not ruled by "Islamic leaders", they are ruled by US cronies and proxies. Look at Egypt, look at Bahrain, look at Saudi Arabia. The HRW has also documented this variously.

You draw a relation between Islam and Oil, merely augmenting your two-penny intellectual faculty. The oil is in the hands of US proxies, who are not working in the name of Islam.

[mingoi313]

They employ the name of Islam to perpetuate their control of geostrategic interests. Did you even listen to the video?

Do you know who Bandar bin Sultan is? He is a Saudi royal, who is known as Bandar Bush for his close-ties with the Bush family. He is promoting Wahhabi terrorists in Lebanon to sow sectarian and civil war.

You obviously have a lot to catch up on. By the way, you didn't provide an answer about Reagan's war on terror in C. America. Was he chasing Islamist terrorists too?

[MusicIzMySavior]

@mingoi313 You are absolutely spot on brothers,the arab leaders were in fact put in power with the help of the british and other western forces, look at the king of jordan his grandfather was from mecca, how the hell did he come 2 rule jordan ?

[rami735]

@AkatsukiKanjiKana3 fuck you its hezbollah who are the reapers!!

[AkatsukiKanjiKana3]

So you're saying its the USA govt. that's supporting all the suicide bombers (indoctrinated by Quranic hate for Infidels) of al-Qaeda in Iraq to kill muslim civilians and its own US Troops who defend those civilians? I thought the US had a 'war on terrorism' going on in M.E.?

Hmm, learned something new today. But I still doubt America is dumb enough to set up its own destruction by something as weak as Radical Islam.

US has nothing to gain funding Wahabbism. Muslims do - World Domination.

[mingoi313]

Either you did not comprehend what I said, or you conveniently chose to misread it because it was verging on hypocrisy of the highest order for the "beacon of freedom and democracy" to make use of these Wahhabi lunatics for its own strategic goals in the region.

Reagan had a "war on terror" against Central America. Go and read up on what he did there.

The US has been a life-long ally of Saudi Arabia, the sponsor of Wahhabism. Or is that a myth too?

Listen to the video carefully, it'll help.

[AkatsukiKanjiKana3]

Muslims invest a quarter of their school day learning to recite the Qur'an - not reading it or understanding it. They simply learn to mouth its sounds in the arcane, inadequate, and odd dialect of Religious Arabic. That way they can be fooled into believing that it's "God's Book," and that it's written intelligently. Thus all its errors go unjudged and unchecked. Ignorant, they can be indoctrinated and thus manipulated by clerics. Even turned into HUMAN BOMBS when it serves Islam's interests.

[mingoi313]

Well done for listening to the video. A round of applause for you.

Given your lovely preface, would you now kindly inform us why the US is supporting these "ignorant", "indoctrinated", "human bombs" as documented by Seymour Hersh in the video?

Thanks.

[NikolaSerbPatriot]

This is same crap with Americans.1st they supported Al-Qaida,wich is now at war with them. Then they support Albanians,who already tried to attack US on it's own ground,and planted bomb in EULEX building in Prishtina. They repeat their mistakes every time...

[Eye0fTheStorm]

Quran: 3:109

"And hold fast, all of you together, to the rope of Allah, and do not separate. And remember Allah's favor unto you: How ye were enemies and He joined your hearts in love; so that ye became as brothers by His grace; and (how) ye were upon the brink of an abyss of fire, and He did save you from it. Thus Allah maketh clear His revelations unto you, that haply ye may be guided"

Sunni...Shia. Do not be manipulated by America/Israel, who bring nothing but death and suffering to Muslims

[truthchannel]

"Do not be manipulated by America/Israel, who bring nothing but death and suffering to Muslims." - sounds like you have bought the whole bullshit story mate. I agree that the Iraq war and many other events have been deeply offensive to Arab countries, but to say "nothing but death and suffering?" - More aid comes from western countries than anywhere else. More palestinians have been killed by Arabs than by westerners. Iraq is fucked and we hate it too but you need to get your facts straight.

[OnceUponAtimeInLeb]

Hala is a true syrian beauty

[sameem42]

In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.

asslam alykum wa rahmatullah (peace and blissing of allah be upon all of us muslims)

They are creating confusion amongs us muslims

this is a trick of shytaan dont fall in it.

Unity of muslims makes us strong brothers thank you

[Eye0fTheStorm]

Quran: 3:109

"And hold fast, all of you together, to the rope of Allah, and do not separate. And remember Allah's favor unto you: How ye were enemies and He joined your hearts in love; so that ye became as brothers by His grace; and (how) ye were upon the brink of an abyss of fire, and He did save you from it. Thus Allah maketh clear His revelations unto you, that haply ye may be guided"

Sunni...Shia. Do not be manipulated by America/Israel, who bring nothing but death and suffering to Muslims

[OccidentalSoapbox]

Hirsch looks at any conflict in the world and sees sneaky Americans pulling the strings behind the shadows... Americans are to Hirsch as Jews were to Hitler. Did he ever think that Jihadists are violent by design and are quite capable of killing each other without our help?

[hanysal]

america supports shias and sunnis so they can fight eachother No more No less

im a sunni from Tripoly lebanon and im not saying that sanyoura is a traitor but that idiot isin way over his head (you simply cant govern a country on yourown you do it as a team with ur other countrymen)

as for "fath al islam" there is a90% chance that SaudiArabia is behindit From allwe cansee in everyday politics

Who is benefiting from allthis its Israil and the Bush administration(oil companies) NOT AMERICA

[kosation]

people who left comments and think that symour hersh is right are fucking ignorint just like him, give me one way the sunni are supporting hezboallah in lebanon... that fucker seems to get mixed between sunnis supporting him against isreal, and against him because of the issues there making in forming a lebanese government... second he said america is supproting sunnis everywhere and are against shia's? you see thats what i mean by ignorant ...it seems he forgot that america is supporting shia

[lebnany2500]

you dont make any sense retard...he said never said anything about sunnis supporting hezbollah

", give me one way the sunni are supporting hezboallah in lebanon"

what the fuck are you talking about??? and yes they are supporting sunnis, they support saudi arabia, they support saad harriri and they support all who are against hezbollah in lebanon so that they can focus the blame on hezbolalh syria and more importantly..iran. who they feel is the threat.

[kosation]

if you werent so ignorant i would have replied please you know nothing comapered to what i kno about lebanon go study its history to study the present of lebanon so please when you say something make sure it makes sense...go suck a dick and get your facts right is america supporting sunnis in somalia against ethoipians ?there supporting sunis against shia's in lebanon but when theres no shia they wont support sunis anymore you dumb fucker and btw america controls saudiarabia it doesnt support it

[gsg831]

He didnt say the sunni are supporting Hezbollah. You can make the case that the US is supporting shia in only Iraq. Because the government is mostly shia. But if you look at what the gov is saying the sunnis are the good guys now who are fighting against al qaeda and the shia militias who have had a cease fire for over 6 months are the enemy. Iran, Syria and Hez the shia muslims are always cast as the enemy but the sunni (saddam, al qaeda, saudi arabia) are the good guys.

[kosation]

in iraqq or am i wrong ? and how are they supporting sunnis everywhere in the world ? It also seems he forgot the Sumalian war against ehtiopia whose america supporting you dumb fuck so please before going on tv get your facts right !and please go read about the lebanese history and its politics than come talk about it you ignorant fucker.

[sindhipakimuslim]

westerner are after muslims God alone save muslims

[truthchannel]

Actually the fact is that more Muslims kill other Muslims than anyone else. I'm not saying the US Iraq thing isn't a horrible travesty but to say that Westerners are after Muslims is so completely wrong. That's the kind of statement that just makes you sound uneducated. Truth is most Westerners want to live in peace. You could probably say the same for most Muslims but let me point out that no other population in the world trains its children to hate and kill like the Palestinians.

[OperationOpera]

This is the same idiot who conjures up a "source" for every story. He does this so often that one may wonder whether he is just making this shit up. Either way, when the inevitable wave of anti-semitism hits the US like the one hitting Europe, its his grandkids that will get fucked.

[Jtea]

he was right on so many occasions (when the Iraqu attack plan was made or the killing fields in vietnam.. its also backed up by the released CIA memos etc. etc.) Being against Israels policies and Zionism is different from being antisemitic!!.. Many Jews are against the occupation in Palestine for example, search Youtube..check my Fav Videos for more inside Info

[lebaneseameer]

Exactly....he was right about the Iran report that said Iran stopped its uranium program in 2003! He was right about Abu Ghraib! He was right about Israel's nuke program! He was right about who actually planned the war in Lebanon! Why would u think he's wrong right now?

[ATMleb]

VERY Interesting,

the US is supporting Sunni extremists, the same people who did 9/11

[delaguer]

Again and again, we see that it is actually the US who is behind most, if not all, atrocities that happen around the world. This is very informative news. Thank you.

[kreikor]

This guy knows .... listen to him... USA Gov. announced democracy is corrupt and is going to take us all to hell.

[Ibbe88]

This is known as the war on Islam...

The "war on terrorism" is actually a war on Islam. And the terrorists(like al-Qaeda and Fatah al-Islam), they are directly supported by zionists and neocons.

[azizou961]

wow that was very deep, as a Lebanese citizen, I never thought of this... Can this be possible???? WOW

[venomfcg]

Seymour Hersh is the best!!

[eddmosphere]

I have no doubt that people inside the US and other countrie's governments (along with corporate interests) are the main responsible for this west/islam,sunni/shiite war.I'm sure some of the 'terrorist' attacks where sponsored by economic interests.Money and power feed wars.Not religion.Most people just want to live in peace!Islam itself is not bad..Christianism had some dark periods too.Anyone who tells otherwise is just ignorant.But (some) people are bad. For those who foment hate..don't!Peace

[McAllister667]

you are a paranoid moron!!

[AIPACOWNSCONGRESS]

A little clarity:

Sunni = Saudis, Egypt, Jordan, Fatah Al Islam - (All supported by US and Israel - through $ and alliance)

Shiite = Iraq, Iran, Lebanon, Syria, Hezbola

Do you see a pattern? - *Oh, Palestinians are mainly Sunni (who have been under Israels illegal occupation for over 40 years.)

[arashmets]

There is a cancer known as islam. It has attacked: USA, AUSTRALIA, RUSSIA, SPAIN, MOROCCO, ISRAEL, KENYA, INDONESIA, ALGERIA, TANZANIA, ENGLAND, SCOTLAND, INDIA...this cancer is growing.

But thank the Lord the West is waking up. In europe, they are now limiting the number of raghead barbarians they r allowing in.

And Iran will soon be set back to the stone ages...like the world is really gonna let a guy who think he will get 72 virgins if he blows up, have a nuke!

[AIPACOWNSCONGRESS]

Fatah Al Islam is a US funded puppet. They were created by "The Welch Club" as in - David Welch, Elliot Abrams, Feith, Cheney, Condisleeza through the *Office of Special Plans (OSP) - they receive funding from Saudi Arabia and the Hariri Family in Lebanon (Future Movement) - Anti Hezbola groups. This is well documented look it up. America trying to destabilize Lebanon.

[weezy123456789]

how the fuck does syria benefit from having a turbulent violent unstable country on its border???? why would it be in the interests of syria to do this to lebanon?? wat do tehy get out of it

[newproject555]

hersh is a moron. obviously syria is stirring up the whole thing to pit the palestinian regugees against the lebanese army/government in order to weaken it. syria + hezballah are partners, it's in both their interest to bring down the siniora government. this is a way to spark the fire. simple.

[rOaCh2000]

is this what a saudi arabian fanatic said or is this what something the prophet said?

[rOaCh2000]

hamas needs to do more crushings and beheadings of fatah. fatah are al qaeda inspired and are dirty stinking rats that kill red cross workers.

[paryan7]

playing these kind of games against people to fund and support one against other is quite old fashion but still favorite in our time but no westerner of christian ask themselves that why are we doing this when it is coming back to us, they keep quite, hypocrets by all means.

[paryan7]

exactly in the same fashion the so called state of israel created HAMAS against FATAH movement to bring it down but it cast them heavily, what goes around comes around, enjoy your time around

[davenyc222]

Hersh is insane... or is he crazy like a fox? He makes a shit load of money selling his bullshit.

[jico99]

If what this man is saying was true, we would have seen fat7 l eslam bombing Hezbolla/shiite regions.. Not bombing 2 bus in a christian neighbourhood... that's a not a Sunite - Shiite conflict...

These guys are seeking violence and caos... Or a Muslim - Christian conflict..

I don't really believe in HS' theory.. Anyway.. Nothing in this country is really sure so far..

[mingoi313]

You may be right. But bear this in mind, in the piece 'The Redirection' even before Fat7 Al-Islam were an issue, Seymour Hersh mentioned them by NAME. As for the consequences in Lebanese politics, it's a bit more complicated. For one think about this, the government position on the need to disarm Hezbollah has been strengthened under the pretense of national security. There are many dimensions to the Fat7 Al-Islam crisis.

[globalsentiment]

reading list:

Dollars for Terror: The Us and Islam by Richard Labeviere

Devil's Game: How the United States Helped Unleash Fundamentalist Islam (American Empire Project) (American Empire Project) by Robert Dreyfuss

State of War: The Secret History of the CIA and the Bush Administration by James Risen

Ghost Wars: The Secret History of the CIA, Afghanistan, and Bin Laden, from the Soviet Invasion to September 10, 2001 by Steve Coll

[globalsentiment]

i think this guy's right on the spot there. if you read the history of the 1980s, you'll find that the US supplied tonn of arms and money to Arab and Afghan terrorists to fight the Soviet Union, especially Stinger anti aircraft missiles that turned the tide in the Afghanistan war against the Soviet Union.The US is an old, and rather strong ally of Saudi Arabia, which in turn supported Sunni fundamentalists. check Soviet War in Afghanistan on Wikipedia or google.

[vksharma20]

SH is a very funny guy. His lunatic conspiracy theories never cease to humour me. The older he is getting his theories are becoming more and more amusing.

His conspiracy theories might even beat Noam Chomsky's conspiracy theories in bullsh*tting.

[uthman786]

this guy knows wat he is talking about

[asabry24]

our idea of promoting democracy is giving weapons and funding to groups like fatah which overthrow democratically elected governments like hamas. both groups are fucked up...but only one will be the means to the end we desire

[alphautubeone]

+, SLAUGHTER`ING pALESTINIANS AT A RATIO OF 8:1 AND THEN CLAIMINg YOU ARE THE VICTIm OF TERRORISM^ AND ANTISEMITISM IS SIMPLY LAUGHABLE BY ANY RATiONAL, LOGIc, RELIGiON OR CREeD. NO EXCUSe IS CREDiBLE FOR THESE LEVELS OF TERRORISM. NOT EVEN THE JEWISH HOLY TORAH ALLOWS KILLING BEYOND AN EYE FOR AN EYE!

PLEASE MEMORIZE & HELP POST THIS COMMENT ON MANY OTHER ISRAEL RELATED VIDEOS

BOYCOTT ISRAEL!

[AIPACBARF]

# -- What we know for a fact is that over the last several years, since 2000, and specifically since 2005 during the parliamentary elections, the Hariri family spent lavishly, especially in northern Lebanon to recruit among the extremist, fundamentalist Sunni organizations

[AIPACBARF]

HARIRI FAMILY + DAVID WELCH - AKA - WELCH CLUB = SAUDI/US FUNDED TERRORIST CELLS -- The FM created Sunni Islamist 'terrorist' cells were to serve as a cover for (anti-Hezbollah) Welch Club projects. The plan was that actions of these cells, of which Fatah el-Islam is one, could be blamed on al Qaeda or Syria or anyone but the Club. -- Franklin Lamb - COUNTERPUNCH ORG

[AIPACBARF]

Al-Arabiya television May 23, 2007 - Lebanese defense minister, Ilyas Murr, stated that - "of the several dozen fighters killed in the battles, not a single a fighter is identified as Palestinian." He said "they are mostly Lebanese, Saudi, Yemeni, Algerian, Tunisian, Moroccan and so on." -- Interview: As'ad Abukhalil on the Nahr al-Bared siege - GLOBALRESEARCH

[REMgenerator]

I know this scenario. let me guess:

The local palestinians began to do some mess according to their sheikhs order or something like that. then the lebanon army tried to calm things down, then they saw it as a weak spot and tried to provoke them.

The lebanon army didnt think twice and started shooting everyone !!!!!!!

after a while, they said some things from the kuran and began to fight back while they are talking about an option for cease fire.

Their days are numbered

[mgmechanics]

A democracy HAS NOT to support violent movements. It will end up in civil war. The winner is the most brutal force. And this will be a dictatorship. Enough dictatorships on the world are the dead of democracy.

[Bozxare]

The truth always shows up in the end. Thank u Seymour Hersh! the best journalist ive heard

[saidber]

Thx God there are still americans that can tell the truth..n thx god that freedom of expression still exist in the US

[Sandaraa]

???? WTF ????

what kind of crap is this?

How do they let idiots like this guy talk about Middle East politics...

he obviously doesnt know his ass from his elbow

[Madbanker2]

herch is a complete retard. he's talking out of his as s

[saidber]

If u r ignorant don't share ur ignorance with us..

[daavar]

this is stuff is great, and rarely seen. very interesting information. thank you for posting it.

Hersh was the one who exposed the Mei Lai incident so many years ago. as our friend indicated below, "they are repeating the anti-soviet fiasco in Lebanon, virtually screwing up another nation, another country

[markinu]

Pity he did not uncover the acrocities commitied by the viet cong. He does not give a crab about them because they are not on his side.

[daavar]

I don't think Seymour Hersh wrote about the genocidal massacre of Bosnians by the Serbian paramilitary. However, his writings on Mei Lai turned out to be the "truth." And clearly, at the time many didn't want him to write about that "truth.

So friends, let's keep our eye on the ball and forward Hersh's input on the sponsorship of FUNDAMENTALISTS in LEBANON to many others.

Best regards,

[javan82]

Lebanon is being used by both the USA and Syria

[AinataBuard]

this is another proof of the 14 March involvin supportin Ftah al islam Terrorists against the lebanese Resistance headed by hezbollah.

[olbodala]

Yes,the fatah al sheytan wal nifaq is supported by saad hariri(american's puppet)

[dannyak]

You know... You're assuming logic by Seymour Hersch... but that's okay... we'll foget that one right now.

[temptation4life]

They are repeating the anti-soviet fiasco in Lebanon, virtually screwing up another nation, another country

[Andira55]

One advice to Mr. Herch , for God sake please retire .

[Immoermanos]

Why? For telling the truth?

[daavar]

this is stuff is great, and rarely seen. very interesting information. thank you for posting it.

Hersh was the one who exposed the Mei Lai incident so many years ago. as our friend indicated below, "they are repeating the anti-soviet fiasco in Lebanon, virtually screwing up another nation, another country