Anti commie? Anti Yankee? West Vs east….East Vs west… Blah Blah Blah….Which is best – Concorde or Tu 144? Ours is!...No its not…Yes it is…No its not…you coped us…no we didn’t….it was you who copped us you commie tosser…no we never you capitalist pig…Concorde was the copy…..bull…Tu 144 was... blah blah blah… Does it bloody matter?? Both are sadly gone now. Someday people will simply learn to admire both these beauties in their own right and quit all political nonsense
I was present at this crash... 12 years old. I remember the silence over 100.000 visitors...Authorities decided to continue the show to avoid the traffic to slow the emergency trucks to operate. 29 dead. Never forgot.
What broke off of it? Looked like a steep, but controlled approach, and then wham! What separated from the a/c before impact? Some control surface? Wing tip? Anybody know?
Russia is a poor country. When defected pilot Lt. Belenko, flew his Mig 25 Foxbat to Japan, our agents noted that it was made of steel not like our titanium frames. Their electronic systems were vacuum tube based. Ours are solid state microchip based. After the fall of the wall, we are still giving them billions in aid and rebuilding their electrical systems and roads.
@leegenix Good point, never knew that about their electronics though. Belenko was a bad-ass for that move, landed on fumes. Yeager took him fishing for years after and became very close. Funny how we feared the foxbat and once we got one it wasnt the big bad wolf. (still an imprssive airplane. Any interceptor that can bust 100, 000 feet is ok in my book)
@leegenix Actually thy used titanium also. Basic material was stainless steel. They have also used silver for heat protection. Also that time mig-31 was almost ready. It was able to fire at 4 aircrafts at the same time. It was like mig-25 but was totally rebuilt. Including the electronics. So Americans saw a plane that was obsolete already. Also the remaining mig-25 s wore reconstructed also, because Americans knew the locators frequency etc. The locator was so strong that could not be diturbed.
@XXXGhostGrenadeXXX Yeah when I was a child, i have built exactly the same plane! Out of paper! But my mother did not allowed me to play with it. It did not fit in my room.... Was also afraid that the plane would catch fire because of skin friction over M3...
Tu-144 that day was told to shorten it's show,a french fighter was attempting to take pictures of the canard on the plane when it must have caused the pilot to dive to avoid a collision,doing a "bunt",the engines can take the rapid change in airflow causing the engines to stall,pilot dove to keep airspeed up and in doing so overstressed the wings,
@thresher4 All is correct except there was not danger of collision and emergency dive, pilot just did took a risk cause they had orders push plane to off the limits.
@Biogem369 wrong totally - I saw it for real it was a stressing of the airframe the front airfoil went into the port engine and it exploded - I was only 3km from the town of Gousinville and watched it come down through binoculars..... sorry!
@freddielaker2 it happened because of the foreign military fighter jet that clipped tu144. so the west has always been dishonest in relation to Russia.
someone should make an add on for firefox that recognizes when a youtube video has a song in it by 009 sound system and blocks it so you don't have to listen to it or mute the video.
@xInFaMoUsxdope Two theories to this day. One, a French military jet flew too closely to take photos of the TU-144 forcing the plane to make evassive moves it was never designed for causing it to break up mid flight. The other, the TU-144 was trying to imitate the same maneuver the Concorde made minutes earlier. Again, the body of the Soviet plane couldn't take the stress and broke up. This is what I read when it happened.
@ CharlieDoen "Russian now NOT ENOUGH MONEY to continue space programs! PERIOD.."
It is the US that are phasing out the space shuttle and booking space on the Russian space program!
The Space shuttles will all be out of duty by the end of 2010, with a replacement not due until 2015. So it seems the USA are the ones who are running out of money, either that or very little planning and foresight has left NASA in a very precarious position, relying on other countries to get people into orbit!
@lyle67 You're talking such nonsense! That Americans have the space program's failure, according to this they resort to the Russian. Yes, I agree with you that the U.S. and Russia the last time they started to work together and invest.
Incidentally during World War 2 the Russians used American P-39 Airacobras,B-25 Mitchell bombers and PBY Catalinas,all thanks to the Lend-Lease Act.All of these aircraft held up just fine in the Russian winter climate. The Tupolev TU-4 (NATO code name"Bull") was a reverse engineered Boeing B-29 Superfortress that unfortunately also acquired the B-29's "Achille's heel",problematic engines.
American fighter planes won't make it thru Siberian winter storms, just like Hitler's babarossa in ww2 & Napoleon's attack of Russia.
Regardless how these American planes (or other machines) look like or whatever media wants you to believe, these machinery won't run thru Russian winter because one of the big reason is fuel is turning to ice inside thier pipes.
Russian machineries are rigid and design to make it thru their winter. Don't believe it? Go ask Hitler or Napoleon. lolz.
The Russian passenger aircrafts statistics are as good as Western ones. Might be even better. The crash you mentioned was human error, not the plane.
Actually i feal much safer on a TU than an airbus that makes a touchdown, and ven th pilot wants to fly back up tu give it a nother try for safety, gives full throttle, and pulls the elevator, than the planes computer refuses this. insted of pulling, it pushes, than the plane goes straight to the forest.....
@Modellpecs Can you provide statistics to prove this? The Concorde flew regular flights for 27 years. The TU-144 was grounded after a mere 55 scheduled flights.
@itsmegp46 Concord and 144? That statistic was newer made. I can give you this; Airbus A310 One crash per: 1 067 700 flying hours Tu-134 One crash per: 1 087 600 flying hours Boeing 737 JT8D One crash per: 507 500 flying hours Tu-154 One crash per: 1 041 000 flying hours As you can see it depends on the type.... Makes no sence to argue.... Russian planes deserve more honor than they recive. Expecially because they serve mostly in por contries, in bad conditions.
@Modellpecs Provide your source for this "information". Otherwise your post is vaporware. I do know that the Boeing 737 in one form or another has been flying since the mid 1960's. Over 45 years.
But, I do not think, that i can tell you anything, that you accept, or ether makes you belive me, so feel free to look it up yourself. Lots of people are surprised just like you, when they realise, tahat a tradicional aircraft could be much safer than a, as they say "hightec plane" like Airbus A310 is. Normaly everyone thinks that its computer, and modern electronics, makes it safe, but it is false. Actually a lot of plane went down because of this....
@Modellpecs That's a good point that I always made, but never had numbers to back it up.
Even in Russia, these planes encounter more difficult conditions than many other countries simply because of the remote, outdated locations they often land in.
@12OclockLow The Aeroflot IL-62 was a thing of beauty to me when I worked at Washington Dulles airport, but they were always in such a horrible state of disrepair - tires with missing tread, dents in the fuselage, things like that. This was in 1990 and 1991, and I suspect poor maintenance was due to poor funding in those final Soviet years. I think the Russian/Soviet aesthetic for passenger aircraft was beautiful. I hope the Russian aviation industry is doing well! Also Sukhoi - the SU-31! WOW!
Correct, the main reason they crash is because of the really sloppy and bad service performed on them by poor local airlines, not by the faults of the aircraft itself. A Tupolev plane in service in a good airline has pretty much a perfect safety record.
@Modellpecs The soviets stole the concorde's tech from the Aérospatiale/British Aircraft Corporation...and made this..how cheap of them!....and u say that russian planes deserve honor?!.....
@technospear Sure i do! Let me ask you one thing. If they stole, than how come, that they built a totally different plane? Let us say they had Concordes plans. And they built a plane, that is bigger, Has totally different wing design, different engines, different engine placement, different landing gears, different flight and onboard systems, basically everything is different. Why would they do such a thing?
@Modellpecs ahem!....it has been proven that the tu-144 is BASED on the blueprints that were missing from the Aérospatiale/British Aircraft Corporation's testing lab...u can say watever u want ...but they still copied it!
@technospear Proven? :D What are you talking about!? Bulls shit..... Even if they did seal... They have built the plane on their concept. That is why TU-144 is totally different than Concorde. Just for an example, to make you see the trough; Was Concorde planned to be bigger than Concorde? Don't you see the conflict in the sentence? Don't be blind..... You always have a chance to see clear. But you have to decide, if you want to.... Go after this. Read, read, read. ;)
@technospear So, facts are nothing? Hmmm.... Think it over.... ;) Let me try once again. How could it be a copy, when it is not alike at all? Like an apple and a plum. Bough are fruits. Bought taste good. Can eat bough. But, totally different.... Same with 144 and Concorde. Bough are beautiful planes, but only their shadow is the same from far away... Everyone can see the difference. If not, than, know nothing about flying.
@Modellpecs brrr....u russians never learn do u?....im just wasting my time arguing with clueless people like u......im off ...u can comment all u want....i know im right ..and i dont have 2 prove it 2 anyone....cherio..
@technospear Wrong. You have to. You just wrote something, that is against the facts and tons of technical data, flight parameters, etc. So i say again, you have to! At this point, it seams, that you wrote down your feelings, nothing else... If you know that you are right, than you should be able to give me reasons, numbers, facts, etc. That you did not do. You know nothing about TU-144. It is clear to me. That is why you are writing about your feelings and guesses. I wrote facts...
@Modellpecs listen dude...iv got no time 2 argue with you.....im a school kid...and iv got no time to hang around youtube .....i hope u undestand that :)
@Modellpecs oh please ...like i said...iv got no time...to be arguing with jobless people like u.....so stop comenting...u russians are really anoying
@technospear Jobless? How do you know? Is it like 144 is a copy? :D Actually i have a pretty good job.... Also. I am not russian. Actually russia ocupyed my country twice. First after 2WW and again in 1956. Now you know, why i don't like russia. Why do you hate russia, or russians? But one thing sure. Russians can build airplane. Try to separate your feelings and the trough.
@technospear "brrr....u russians never learn do u?....im just wasting my time arguing with clueless people like u......im off ...u can comment all u want....i know im right ..and i dont have 2 prove it 2 anyone....cherio.." - ahahaha! stupid yankee...in our country such people are called BIDLO (БЫДЛО)!
@technospear hmm...another stupid yankee :(( you even can not use YOUR WIKI!!! TU-144 was made before Concord...TU-144 first flight 31 Dec 1968 and its superjet flight already - the beginnig 1969...Concord`s first flight only several months AFTER it(!!!) You know nothing teenager. Do you know that that USSR has another project of such a jet (but from another engineer bureau) even 2 years earlier?
It's "Concorde"... and the overwhelming majority of USAmericans are not "Yankees," despite common and widespread overuse of that word to describe them.
Perhaps before you lament someone else's obvious ignorance, you should attend to your own. Food for thought.
@ImmortalSynn sorry for my english, my russian is perfect! And what I should think when I read the comments of people who even do not want to look through internet sources to repair their illiteration but who always talk "we are the best and you are russian thieves"!? TU-144 was an excellent plane. The reasons (why its flights were stopped) are really unknown...
@dobrovolets777 hahaha....i get all my info from my cousin ...he works at Aérospatiale...those russians used their espionage services to steal the blueprint no.75j.....which went missing in the Aérospatiale test lab in 1966....dont make me laugh old man :P
@technospear "my cousin said..." - oh! it is REALLY strong source!!! Anyway espionage is the international thing...Doesn`t USA have its own intelligence services (for example)? You do not understand the real thing!!! How can you steal all the technology at all? You may steal all the projects, you may steal or buy even the sample BUT you can not produce the original if you haven`t got every know-how? every stage of production with the beginning from the production of metals and polymers!
@dobrovolets777 ahem!...he's a part of the design team...so he knows alot :P .....and USA doesnt need to steal from other countries because they know that their tech is the best....the only thing that they do is spy........what im saying is....the t-114 is not a direct copy of the Concorde ...but its based on the blueprints that when missing
@technospear :) "part of the design team"? and he really said this shit? the only resume that I can do - he is NOT professional or he NEVER deal with ANY engineer systems! How HE CAN KNOW that russians stole the blueprints? "USA doesn`t need to steal"-really?so why did they steal the RSZO "Smerch" all the projects?:) but even having its they couldnot even do a copy such a system! You and your cousin haven`t ever thought WHAT it means to construct jet of such level! play the toys better,kid.
@dobrovolets777 yes he is a part of the design team...but he started in 1989..so maybe he doesnt know much...not professional huh?! lol....he works as the 2nd lead designer in the avionics tean :P....anyways enough about my cousin...and the chinese are the guys who stole or copied the BM-30 Smerch! not aamerica......those russians took the blueprint no.75j...and made the tu-144 which was BASED on the blueprints....i dont care what u say..... :P
@technospear you just bother me by your illiteration...How can he know about the jet of another country that this was stolen if he did not work in Tupolev bureau??? And yes, he is NOT professional if he talks such a shit! Or he didn`t told this and you simply lied to me, little boy. As for "Smerch" - NO, that were americans who tried to repeat it but failed. Chinese tried to copy another system which cals "Uragan" but failed too!
@technospear the info for you, my little boy - to construct even the same jet of such level any stolen blueprints will be not enough...you will need ALL the technology from the beginnig to the end, from the producing every detail and material to the tests of electronics, for example...you even does not really understand what you are talking about!
@technospear ahaha! do you understand yourself, my little crazy schoolboy? "they stole the blueprints to understand WHAT they should create"!!! Ok, boy, let`s try to speak - why do you think they could not create this idea by themthelves? for you not to write absolutely shit as before I give one help - these people already built on that moment not one but much more superjet BOMBERS! last their project on that time was Tu-22...do you think they were absolutely stupids like you are?
@technospear Who cares about the blueprints? 144 is totally different. So it is pointless to argue on this. It could be true that they really stoled it. (Not a fact, just a concept.) But it is a fact that 144 is not even alike. So what are you talking about? Really... Also, pls don't use other peoples opinion as yours, don't if you have nothing else... Also i owe you. I should not have argued with you. I did not notice, that you are 15 years old. I should have known, by reading your posts. ;)
@Modellpecs I really do not understand why so many young peoples do not respect the super efforts of the scientists and engineers! there were a lot of dirty games during cold war and now maybe not less but there were a lot of people who really worked hard and put all their lifes into this or that project...it is not fair to them and really bad.
@Modellpecs dont be fooled by my age ;).......ok..u say that russians are not copycats right?....so how can u explain the buran orbiter looking EXACTLY the same as the space shuttle? :P
@technospear Simply. But Buran and shuttle is not comparable also. Going to the space like this was Russian idea. Way before the moon landing... Also if they copy than how come that it can bring up 4 times more weight than space shuttle? And able to land with 10 ton more? Its heat protection can take more heat than space shuttle? Fully automatic? Also Its engines can be stopped anytime? Wonder if Chalanger had this... Buran also equiped with ejection system. But it has nothing to do with TU-144
@Modellpecs who cares..about weight,heat protection and stuff?!...it was a big balloony failure..only 3 hours in space.....all that tech was a wastage!......hahaha...space shuttle over 30 years!.....i know it has nothing to do with the tu-144 and the concorde...i just gave an example.......oh,....and what destroyed it?!...cheap hanger maintenance!
@Modellpecs ya right ;)...k i also had enough with this fight...nobodys proving anything...u cant convince me ...i cant convince u...this sucks....have a nice day ;)
@technospear Ignoring the facts, is not very claver but it is ok. I was telling to myself, if i give you more, than you might understand it. But post like this.... Hmmmm... To say anything, like you just did. Is not simply stupid, but also labeling yourself. From now on, It is pointless to argue with a child like you. So it was my last reply to your comments. I do hope, while you grow, you are not only getting taller, but smarter. I think i wait for that. A few years might be.... ;)
Tell Kim Junk Ill fly on it, I will bet with all of you MY LIFE that He dare not to sit on that air plane !! KKK and not gonna sit on any military airplane that made in Russian...kkk
@CharlieDoan I just hate the way "Westerners" always try to discredit every Russian achievement. On any passenger aircraft other than Concorde a burst tyre would not rupture a fuel tank. They solved this problem afterwards by installing Kevlar linings in the fuel ranks. If there was no design flaw they would not have had to install these linings,so the Concorde wasnt perfect either.The Tu-144 wasnt a piece of shit.
@Lvieru96 No matter what Russian made fancy shit to serve for HUMAN are SHIT!
They only made good Katyusha missles, 130mm Cannon are all things to DESTROY the world are very excellent!
- Just ask the world to see How many deluxe cars of Russian TODAY can compete with Japanese, German...or even with Young industry South Korea ex: Huynday, Kia....
- Russian's shit can not have a sit in anythings to serve people in the peace time !! Poor Russian
You are another troll who has no argument to come up against the fact that TU-144 is shit.Are you still in the 60's? You have nothing better to do?
Just because you are western,doesent mean you have to discredit every russian achievement.
Russia have the most reliable space vehicles today,so that is an achievement.Why are you talking about deluxe cars?Did you know Concorde wasnt safe too? That it has,structure,heating,wing,and radiation issues that the Tu-144 didnt have?
Fucking air plane breaking by itself Tu-144! This kind of model killed alot of their pilots and people! Fucking buy Boeing OK..Russian only good for fighting jet (maybe) but to serve the people are S U C K E D! for sure! nobody buy TU - bullshit
- Only poor countries like Vietnam,Cuba, North Korea, Cambodia,Laos...former communist still using them (got no choice, got not enough dollars to buy Boeing!) - Poor communist brothers, Fuck Russian!
An ugly plane, not stable at low speeds, short range, every single flight had breakages, pilots had to wear oxygen masks, a landing parachute, two crashes in 70's with 7 dead pilots and so on - a nightmare aircraft. A pity Concorde's rival.
The engineers of the Concorde knew there was a design flaw in the plane from a previous incident. The skin around the fuel tanks was very-thin to keep weight down. In the previous incident a blown tire ruptured the skin and the tank, causing fuel to leak. The real cause of the crash - cheap engineering to keep the weight down, faulty cheaply made fuel valve which is the real cause of the crash.
Bottom line, no new fighter planes or bombers were designed by Limeys or Froggies after 1975
@freefallnut Yes! it's true! but the Americans did not expect that the Soviet Union so quickly able to copy and improve the aircraft and make it much luchshe.Ya he watched a documentary film about this aircraft.
The Tu-144 actually had enough seating for the plane to be economically viable. The Concord only had one or two routes that were profitable for British Airways or Air France.
@beeroosterm You are right. I am British, English to be more specific. I also read the Wiki entry after you and watched the show down between the Mustang. I think the overwhelming conclusion was that the BMW was the better engineered car in terms of handling, steering, feel and speed and that the Mustang was great value for money, more fun and in my opinion prettier. I think its fair to say the the driver was a little biased towards the American car and why not, he's patriotic. but better???
@Cathaydude well yes lol amongst other sources as well as having driven an M3, but its just a fact. i'm neither german nor a BMW driver and if it was my money I'd probably go for the Mustang because, shit! who doesn't want a Mustang! My favourite car is an old 60s Dodge Charger. Doesn't make it better engineered than say a Gullwing.
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(The list was included in the Tu-144 service record provided by the USSR to BAC-Aérospatiale in late 1978, when requesting Western technological aid with the Tu-144, and is probably incomplete)
The reason why they stop concorde was because the tickets was too expensive, and concorde was a very dangerous plane, who was supposed to land on certain runways
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@IceManTBG1 dude your retarded look at the fatcs after they fixed the problems concorde was going for like 30 years strong and in my book never had a crah because it wasnt concordes fault it was a fantastic plane trust me ive been on it twice
One of the few times that the American Government made the right decision concerning a boondoggle was to cancel support for a supersonic transport for civilian use.
Este infortunado accidente aeronáutico ocurrió el domingo 3 de junio de 1973 en el marco del 30° Salón Internacional de Paris - aeropuerto de Le Bourget. Se cumplían 100 años del nacimiento del aviador Santos Dumont.
El Concorde quien le precedió, despego a las 15:10' y el TUPOLEV 144 despego a las 15:21'.
Dentro de las causa del accidente se manejan dos hipótesis: una cámara filmadora de la televisora TF1 y una modificación de los ingenieros en el sistema de estabilización automático.
@marooojaro Concorde was built over a long period of time, and the Russian SST project was "rushed" to beat the Concorde to be the first commercial plane. Also, the Russian project when made didn't have tests for stress, fires or anything to see if it was even flight-worthy. It just flew. Concorde went through safety assessments, time and research which is how it got to the real only Commercial SST. No effort was made to make the TU-144 safe. The video shows it breaking up after too much stress.
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Best technical characteristics? Could the Tu-144 fly supersonic without using its afterburners? Besides which, you are technically wrong about the Tu-144 landing at any airport. Concorde could land at any airport that could support a Jumbo 747. The Tu-144 was much noisier than Concord and they never attempted certification at most international airports. The aircraft was plagued with problems in its short service life whereas Concorde had one crash in 25 years.
@texNoz yes, stuck that piece of shit TU-144 in Lenin's ass would you! former productions of USSR, former fucking communist to poor my country : VIETNAM!
I think, everything, Russia has the most perfect aviation and space technologies. It is the fact. By the way, Tu-144 has made the first flight earlier, than Concorde. And these two planes absolutely different technically. Stupid trolls are rather amusing
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@LomarkII with eastern countries it is very hard to know where is the line between "I think" and "I 've been told to think" - this "perfect technology" is not representative of the fact that Russia is still poor, disfunctional, and corrupted and more than any other countries uses symbols to hide the reality
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@LomarkII Wake up, Ivan - Russian space and aviation technology are anything but perfect. The Tu-144 was a cobbled together piece of junk. Hell, Tupolev himself had to be present in order that the plane be allowed to leave the ground! Even then the plane was full of problems on every flight, many of them life-threatening. It is a miracle more people were not killed. Concorde flew for many years in a normal manner and without major mishap. The lone crash was a fluke caused by runway debris.
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The Tu-144 flew 9 years, the Concorde over 30 also the Concorde flew more hours per year, and both had one accident so figures say Concorde was the best
@spazoflondon Realy both planes where amazing, but the fuel comsumption was 3 or 4 times more compared to planes of the same capacity flying subsonic, that was really a luxury waste, and that good times of petrol are over. Maybe in the future people can fly hipersonic, but is not in the near future. Ice age, stone age, iron age, coil age, petrol age... we need to look forward
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FROM RUSSIA TETRIS TODO BIEN PERO SI PUEDEN OBSERVAR ADMIRO MUCHO A LOS RUSOS Y EX UNION SOVIETICA PERO COMO PUEDE SER QUE SE HAYA CAIDO COMO PAPEL DE MAL ESTADO ME DA BRONCA ESO SI LOS RUSOS TIENEN BUENOS AVIONES PORQUE NO LOS HACEN SEGUROS????????????
Тушку делали в спешке чтобы доказать что мы и в этом круче всех. А Конкорд делали чтобы возить жирных буржуев в Нью Йорк и обратно и не дай бог не уронить. Поэтому тушка получилась с тормозными парашутами, меньшей дальностью и кучей глюков а Конкорд оказался вполне жизнеспособным транспортом. Амеры в это время строили большую экономичную дозвуковую джумбу и не мудрили. Возить пасажиров на сверхзвуке это все равно что мотоцикл-такси.
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Amazing how people in denial try to thumb down true comments about how the Ty-144 failed. You guys hold something against yourselves that the Ty-144 failed and can't accept it. I believe that the Ty-144 had lots of potential and I wish it was successful but it wasn't. The Concorde lasted way longer that Konkordski and was more successful in service.
Don't be a dickhead. I hate these russian stereotypes. These people created the first commercial supersonic plane, and you are saying the pilots crashed it because the got drunk "of vodka". At least say it right douchebag.
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Good view of the aircraft. You can see the aircraft is in a flat stall. The pilot applies power and pulls back on the stick. The immediate result is over-stress on the airframe and catastrophic structural failure. I suspect the pilot was not properly briefed on the aircraft's flight envelope. This is an inherent weakness of the delta design but I would expect the flight computers to prevent this type of occurrence. Maybe he had them turned off?
LOL
smeltedcheese 1 week ago
RIP
drvivisector 2 months ago
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First flight of Tu-144 - 31 December 1968
First flight of Concorde - 2 March 1969
Tu-144 was technically more advanced - above the maximum speed, safety, is less speed of landing (it is not required special extended runway)
(The Info for americans)
dobrovolets777 3 months ago
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Modellpecs 3 months ago
Anti commie? Anti Yankee? West Vs east….East Vs west… Blah Blah Blah….Which is best – Concorde or Tu 144? Ours is!...No its not…Yes it is…No its not…you coped us…no we didn’t….it was you who copped us you commie tosser…no we never you capitalist pig…Concorde was the copy…..bull…Tu 144 was... blah blah blah… Does it bloody matter?? Both are sadly gone now. Someday people will simply learn to admire both these beauties in their own right and quit all political nonsense
bommmmmmmm 3 months ago
I love how someone like u can take a short 10sec clip and get 400,000+ views from something you didnt render or create!! WOW
Cjudd001 4 months ago
A MAD PILOT,THAT RUNNING PASSENGER PLANE LICKS SPORT
ussmbus 5 months ago
I was present at this crash... 12 years old. I remember the silence over 100.000 visitors...Authorities decided to continue the show to avoid the traffic to slow the emergency trucks to operate. 29 dead. Never forgot.
breeves 7 months ago 4
What broke off of it? Looked like a steep, but controlled approach, and then wham! What separated from the a/c before impact? Some control surface? Wing tip? Anybody know?
jonesy97 7 months ago
@jonesy97 One of the wings outer part. :(
Modellpecs 7 months ago
all of you cannot even comprehend the intelligence put into making something of that scale!
wtficantgetausername 7 months ago
Russia is a poor country. When defected pilot Lt. Belenko, flew his Mig 25 Foxbat to Japan, our agents noted that it was made of steel not like our titanium frames. Their electronic systems were vacuum tube based. Ours are solid state microchip based. After the fall of the wall, we are still giving them billions in aid and rebuilding their electrical systems and roads.
leegenix 7 months ago
@leegenix
Oh, thats why roads in Russia so suck.
pplcf 7 months ago
@leegenix Good point, never knew that about their electronics though. Belenko was a bad-ass for that move, landed on fumes. Yeager took him fishing for years after and became very close. Funny how we feared the foxbat and once we got one it wasnt the big bad wolf. (still an imprssive airplane. Any interceptor that can bust 100, 000 feet is ok in my book)
BeLikeWater1000 7 months ago
@leegenix Actually thy used titanium also. Basic material was stainless steel. They have also used silver for heat protection. Also that time mig-31 was almost ready. It was able to fire at 4 aircrafts at the same time. It was like mig-25 but was totally rebuilt. Including the electronics. So Americans saw a plane that was obsolete already. Also the remaining mig-25 s wore reconstructed also, because Americans knew the locators frequency etc. The locator was so strong that could not be diturbed.
Modellpecs 7 months ago
Russian planes were and is pretty good except some failures. Tu-144 was indeed abig failure.
urmo345 7 months ago
@urmo345 If Tu-144 was a failure, than Concord also. I think, in many ways Tu-144 is better than Concord.
Modellpecs 7 months ago
@Modellpecs It's spelled Concorde.
djbk7456 7 months ago
@djbk7456 Fain to me....
Modellpecs 7 months ago
Another piece of FAILED Russian technology in action!
gfemg 7 months ago
@XXXGhostGrenadeXXX Yeah when I was a child, i have built exactly the same plane! Out of paper! But my mother did not allowed me to play with it. It did not fit in my room.... Was also afraid that the plane would catch fire because of skin friction over M3...
Modellpecs 8 months ago
oh well, I stand corrected then comrade, but what you perceive is not what I saw with my own two eyes, I will not argue with you.
freddielaker2 8 months ago
Tu-144 that day was told to shorten it's show,a french fighter was attempting to take pictures of the canard on the plane when it must have caused the pilot to dive to avoid a collision,doing a "bunt",the engines can take the rapid change in airflow causing the engines to stall,pilot dove to keep airspeed up and in doing so overstressed the wings,
crash.Look up online.
thresher4 8 months ago
@thresher4 All is correct except there was not danger of collision and emergency dive, pilot just did took a risk cause they had orders push plane to off the limits.
urmo345 7 months ago
TU-144 was destroyed during a demonstration due to sabotage.
Biogem369 9 months ago
@Biogem369 wrong totally - I saw it for real it was a stressing of the airframe the front airfoil went into the port engine and it exploded - I was only 3km from the town of Gousinville and watched it come down through binoculars..... sorry!
freddielaker2 8 months ago
@freddielaker2 it happened because of the foreign military fighter jet that clipped tu144. so the west has always been dishonest in relation to Russia.
Biogem369 8 months ago
someone should make an add on for firefox that recognizes when a youtube video has a song in it by 009 sound system and blocks it so you don't have to listen to it or mute the video.
polarablues64 9 months ago
what is the different of Tu-144 and concord?
wisnu1231 10 months ago
@wisnu1231
TU-144 is different, in structure, size, speed, engines, landing gears swept wings, crue, etc.
Modellpecs 10 months ago
wtf wat went wrong????
just spontaneous combustion?????
xInFaMoUsxdope 10 months ago
@xInFaMoUsxdope Two theories to this day. One, a French military jet flew too closely to take photos of the TU-144 forcing the plane to make evassive moves it was never designed for causing it to break up mid flight. The other, the TU-144 was trying to imitate the same maneuver the Concorde made minutes earlier. Again, the body of the Soviet plane couldn't take the stress and broke up. This is what I read when it happened.
itsmegp46 10 months ago
wtf wat went wrong????
xInFaMoUsxdope 10 months ago
@ CharlieDoen "Russian now NOT ENOUGH MONEY to continue space programs! PERIOD.."
It is the US that are phasing out the space shuttle and booking space on the Russian space program!
The Space shuttles will all be out of duty by the end of 2010, with a replacement not due until 2015. So it seems the USA are the ones who are running out of money, either that or very little planning and foresight has left NASA in a very precarious position, relying on other countries to get people into orbit!
lyle67 10 months ago
@lyle67 You're talking such nonsense! That Americans have the space program's failure, according to this they resort to the Russian. Yes, I agree with you that the U.S. and Russia the last time they started to work together and invest.
mioritsa 10 months ago
@KatrinaX17
Incidentally during World War 2 the Russians used American P-39 Airacobras,B-25 Mitchell bombers and PBY Catalinas,all thanks to the Lend-Lease Act.All of these aircraft held up just fine in the Russian winter climate. The Tupolev TU-4 (NATO code name"Bull") was a reverse engineered Boeing B-29 Superfortress that unfortunately also acquired the B-29's "Achille's heel",problematic engines.
mjd4277 11 months ago
American fighter planes won't make it thru Siberian winter storms, just like Hitler's babarossa in ww2 & Napoleon's attack of Russia.
Regardless how these American planes (or other machines) look like or whatever media wants you to believe, these machinery won't run thru Russian winter because one of the big reason is fuel is turning to ice inside thier pipes.
Russian machineries are rigid and design to make it thru their winter. Don't believe it? Go ask Hitler or Napoleon. lolz.
KatrinaX17 11 months ago
Gentlemen, capitalists, you envy us in Russian, because this plane proves the superity of sovetskova down over your pseudo-democracy.
Batkad 11 months ago
@Batkad Hahahahahahahahahaha!!!
itsmegp46 10 months ago
Tu-shit
Let Russian and all the former communist fly with it...don;t gone with the wind
See..new accident in Poland: family of President are the victims..
NO BULL SHIT TU-xxx can sell to rich western world or Asia..
- and CHINA still a COPY cat...but 2nd place took seat from USSR Russie pussie
CharlieDoan 11 months ago
@CharlieDoan
The Russian passenger aircrafts statistics are as good as Western ones. Might be even better. The crash you mentioned was human error, not the plane.
Actually i feal much safer on a TU than an airbus that makes a touchdown, and ven th pilot wants to fly back up tu give it a nother try for safety, gives full throttle, and pulls the elevator, than the planes computer refuses this. insted of pulling, it pushes, than the plane goes straight to the forest.....
Modellpecs 11 months ago
@Modellpecs Can you provide statistics to prove this? The Concorde flew regular flights for 27 years. The TU-144 was grounded after a mere 55 scheduled flights.
itsmegp46 10 months ago
Modellpecs 10 months ago 78
@Modellpecs Provide your source for this "information". Otherwise your post is vaporware. I do know that the Boeing 737 in one form or another has been flying since the mid 1960's. Over 45 years.
itsmegp46 10 months ago
@itsmegp46
Just like TU-134....
But, I do not think, that i can tell you anything, that you accept, or ether makes you belive me, so feel free to look it up yourself. Lots of people are surprised just like you, when they realise, tahat a tradicional aircraft could be much safer than a, as they say "hightec plane" like Airbus A310 is. Normaly everyone thinks that its computer, and modern electronics, makes it safe, but it is false. Actually a lot of plane went down because of this....
Modellpecs 10 months ago
@Modellpecs That's a good point that I always made, but never had numbers to back it up.
Even in Russia, these planes encounter more difficult conditions than many other countries simply because of the remote, outdated locations they often land in.
12OclockLow 9 months ago 39
@12OclockLow The Aeroflot IL-62 was a thing of beauty to me when I worked at Washington Dulles airport, but they were always in such a horrible state of disrepair - tires with missing tread, dents in the fuselage, things like that. This was in 1990 and 1991, and I suspect poor maintenance was due to poor funding in those final Soviet years. I think the Russian/Soviet aesthetic for passenger aircraft was beautiful. I hope the Russian aviation industry is doing well! Also Sukhoi - the SU-31! WOW!
dcs002 7 months ago
@Modellpecs
Correct, the main reason they crash is because of the really sloppy and bad service performed on them by poor local airlines, not by the faults of the aircraft itself. A Tupolev plane in service in a good airline has pretty much a perfect safety record.
McLarenMercedes 7 months ago
@Modellpecs The soviets stole the concorde's tech from the Aérospatiale/British Aircraft Corporation...and made this..how cheap of them!....and u say that russian planes deserve honor?!.....
technospear 3 months ago in playlist tu-144
@technospear Sure i do! Let me ask you one thing. If they stole, than how come, that they built a totally different plane? Let us say they had Concordes plans. And they built a plane, that is bigger, Has totally different wing design, different engines, different engine placement, different landing gears, different flight and onboard systems, basically everything is different. Why would they do such a thing?
Modellpecs 3 months ago
@Modellpecs ahem!....it has been proven that the tu-144 is BASED on the blueprints that were missing from the Aérospatiale/British Aircraft Corporation's testing lab...u can say watever u want ...but they still copied it!
technospear 3 months ago
@technospear Proven? :D What are you talking about!? Bulls shit..... Even if they did seal... They have built the plane on their concept. That is why TU-144 is totally different than Concorde. Just for an example, to make you see the trough; Was Concorde planned to be bigger than Concorde? Don't you see the conflict in the sentence? Don't be blind..... You always have a chance to see clear. But you have to decide, if you want to.... Go after this. Read, read, read. ;)
Modellpecs 3 months ago
@Modellpecs hahaha...u make me laugh ..search wikipedia for tu-144 and read,read,read :P XP......and u'll see :P
technospear 3 months ago
@technospear So, facts are nothing? Hmmm.... Think it over.... ;) Let me try once again. How could it be a copy, when it is not alike at all? Like an apple and a plum. Bough are fruits. Bought taste good. Can eat bough. But, totally different.... Same with 144 and Concorde. Bough are beautiful planes, but only their shadow is the same from far away... Everyone can see the difference. If not, than, know nothing about flying.
Modellpecs 3 months ago
@Modellpecs brrr....u russians never learn do u?....im just wasting my time arguing with clueless people like u......im off ...u can comment all u want....i know im right ..and i dont have 2 prove it 2 anyone....cherio..
technospear 3 months ago
@technospear Wrong. You have to. You just wrote something, that is against the facts and tons of technical data, flight parameters, etc. So i say again, you have to! At this point, it seams, that you wrote down your feelings, nothing else... If you know that you are right, than you should be able to give me reasons, numbers, facts, etc. That you did not do. You know nothing about TU-144. It is clear to me. That is why you are writing about your feelings and guesses. I wrote facts...
Modellpecs 3 months ago
@Modellpecs listen dude...iv got no time 2 argue with you.....im a school kid...and iv got no time to hang around youtube .....i hope u undestand that :)
technospear 3 months ago
@technospear I don't. Than why are you keep writing here? ;) Still no reasoning.... I am sad... :(
Modellpecs 3 months ago
@Modellpecs ok...heres the deal....u keep ur reason to yourself ....and i'll keep my reason to mine....
technospear 3 months ago
@technospear You don't have any.....
Modellpecs 3 months ago
@Modellpecs oh please ...like i said...iv got no time...to be arguing with jobless people like u.....so stop comenting...u russians are really anoying
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technospear 3 months ago
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@technospear Don,t have time? You keep writing.... :D
Modellpecs 3 months ago
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Modellpecs 3 months ago
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@technospear Jobless? How do you know? Is it like 144 is a copy? :D Actually i have a pretty good job.... Also. I am not russian. Actually russia ocupyed my country twice. First after 2WW and again in 1956. Now you know, why i don't like russia. Why do you hate russia, or russians? But one thing sure. Russians can build airplane. Try to separate your feelings and the trough.
Modellpecs 3 months ago
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@technospear "brrr....u russians never learn do u?....im just wasting my time arguing with clueless people like u......im off ...u can comment all u want....i know im right ..and i dont have 2 prove it 2 anyone....cherio.." - ahahaha! stupid yankee...in our country such people are called BIDLO (БЫДЛО)!
dobrovolets777 3 months ago
@technospear hmm...another stupid yankee :(( you even can not use YOUR WIKI!!! TU-144 was made before Concord...TU-144 first flight 31 Dec 1968 and its superjet flight already - the beginnig 1969...Concord`s first flight only several months AFTER it(!!!) You know nothing teenager. Do you know that that USSR has another project of such a jet (but from another engineer bureau) even 2 years earlier?
dobrovolets777 3 months ago
@dobrovolets777
It's "Concorde"... and the overwhelming majority of USAmericans are not "Yankees," despite common and widespread overuse of that word to describe them.
Perhaps before you lament someone else's obvious ignorance, you should attend to your own. Food for thought.
ImmortalSynn 2 months ago
@ImmortalSynn sorry for my english, my russian is perfect! And what I should think when I read the comments of people who even do not want to look through internet sources to repair their illiteration but who always talk "we are the best and you are russian thieves"!? TU-144 was an excellent plane. The reasons (why its flights were stopped) are really unknown...
dobrovolets777 2 months ago
@dobrovolets777 hahaha....i get all my info from my cousin ...he works at Aérospatiale...those russians used their espionage services to steal the blueprint no.75j.....which went missing in the Aérospatiale test lab in 1966....dont make me laugh old man :P
technospear 2 months ago
@technospear "my cousin said..." - oh! it is REALLY strong source!!! Anyway espionage is the international thing...Doesn`t USA have its own intelligence services (for example)? You do not understand the real thing!!! How can you steal all the technology at all? You may steal all the projects, you may steal or buy even the sample BUT you can not produce the original if you haven`t got every know-how? every stage of production with the beginning from the production of metals and polymers!
dobrovolets777 2 months ago
@dobrovolets777 ahem!...he's a part of the design team...so he knows alot :P .....and USA doesnt need to steal from other countries because they know that their tech is the best....the only thing that they do is spy........what im saying is....the t-114 is not a direct copy of the Concorde ...but its based on the blueprints that when missing
technospear 2 months ago
@technospear :) "part of the design team"? and he really said this shit? the only resume that I can do - he is NOT professional or he NEVER deal with ANY engineer systems! How HE CAN KNOW that russians stole the blueprints? "USA doesn`t need to steal"-really?so why did they steal the RSZO "Smerch" all the projects?:) but even having its they couldnot even do a copy such a system! You and your cousin haven`t ever thought WHAT it means to construct jet of such level! play the toys better,kid.
dobrovolets777 2 months ago
@dobrovolets777 yes he is a part of the design team...but he started in 1989..so maybe he doesnt know much...not professional huh?! lol....he works as the 2nd lead designer in the avionics tean :P....anyways enough about my cousin...and the chinese are the guys who stole or copied the BM-30 Smerch! not aamerica......those russians took the blueprint no.75j...and made the tu-144 which was BASED on the blueprints....i dont care what u say..... :P
technospear 2 months ago
@technospear you just bother me by your illiteration...How can he know about the jet of another country that this was stolen if he did not work in Tupolev bureau??? And yes, he is NOT professional if he talks such a shit! Or he didn`t told this and you simply lied to me, little boy. As for "Smerch" - NO, that were americans who tried to repeat it but failed. Chinese tried to copy another system which cals "Uragan" but failed too!
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dobrovolets777 2 months ago
@technospear the info for you, my little boy - to construct even the same jet of such level any stolen blueprints will be not enough...you will need ALL the technology from the beginnig to the end, from the producing every detail and material to the tests of electronics, for example...you even does not really understand what you are talking about!
dobrovolets777 2 months ago
@dobrovolets777 u dumb nut!......they stole the blueprints to get an idea of what they should create....anyway...its still called stealing!
technospear 2 months ago
@technospear ahaha! do you understand yourself, my little crazy schoolboy? "they stole the blueprints to understand WHAT they should create"!!! Ok, boy, let`s try to speak - why do you think they could not create this idea by themthelves? for you not to write absolutely shit as before I give one help - these people already built on that moment not one but much more superjet BOMBERS! last their project on that time was Tu-22...do you think they were absolutely stupids like you are?
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Modellpecs 2 months ago
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@technospear Who cares about the blueprints? 144 is totally different. So it is pointless to argue on this. It could be true that they really stoled it. (Not a fact, just a concept.) But it is a fact that 144 is not even alike. So what are you talking about? Really... Also, pls don't use other peoples opinion as yours, don't if you have nothing else... Also i owe you. I should not have argued with you. I did not notice, that you are 15 years old. I should have known, by reading your posts. ;)
Modellpecs 2 months ago
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@Modellpecs I really do not understand why so many young peoples do not respect the super efforts of the scientists and engineers! there were a lot of dirty games during cold war and now maybe not less but there were a lot of people who really worked hard and put all their lifes into this or that project...it is not fair to them and really bad.
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dobrovolets777 2 months ago
@Modellpecs dont be fooled by my age ;).......ok..u say that russians are not copycats right?....so how can u explain the buran orbiter looking EXACTLY the same as the space shuttle? :P
technospear 2 months ago
@technospear Simply. But Buran and shuttle is not comparable also. Going to the space like this was Russian idea. Way before the moon landing... Also if they copy than how come that it can bring up 4 times more weight than space shuttle? And able to land with 10 ton more? Its heat protection can take more heat than space shuttle? Fully automatic? Also Its engines can be stopped anytime? Wonder if Chalanger had this... Buran also equiped with ejection system. But it has nothing to do with TU-144
Modellpecs 2 months ago
@Modellpecs who cares..about weight,heat protection and stuff?!...it was a big balloony failure..only 3 hours in space.....all that tech was a wastage!......hahaha...space shuttle over 30 years!.....i know it has nothing to do with the tu-144 and the concorde...i just gave an example.......oh,....and what destroyed it?!...cheap hanger maintenance!
technospear 2 months ago
@technospear Ehh... You know nothing.... talk about TU-144 pls. Done with you...
Modellpecs 2 months ago
@Modellpecs ya right ;)...k i also had enough with this fight...nobodys proving anything...u cant convince me ...i cant convince u...this sucks....have a nice day ;)
technospear 2 months ago
@technospear I think, i did.
Modellpecs 2 months ago
@Modellpecs nop u didnt...and never can :P
technospear 2 months ago
@technospear I did, but you closed your eyes.... Read back.
Modellpecs 2 months ago
@Modellpecs nop u still havent.... u r just wasting my time dude.....im off.....and i still say russians are thieves and copycats! :P
technospear 2 months ago
@technospear Ignoring the facts, is not very claver but it is ok. I was telling to myself, if i give you more, than you might understand it. But post like this.... Hmmmm... To say anything, like you just did. Is not simply stupid, but also labeling yourself. From now on, It is pointless to argue with a child like you. So it was my last reply to your comments. I do hope, while you grow, you are not only getting taller, but smarter. I think i wait for that. A few years might be.... ;)
Modellpecs 2 months ago 2
@Modellpecs hahahaha...anything u say ...OLD MAN XD ...i'll be seeing u when im older and when yo dead!.....have a nice day :D
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Modellpecs 10 months ago
OH...whore dare to seat in Russian air plane to travel?? Make survey to be fair
- 90% that no body want or dare to sit in USSR shit to travel and spend their money to enjoy a trip
- Other company witb bon voyage..but not Russie Pussie...kkkkk Those people in here try to hugh russian 's balls too much!
CharlieDoan 11 months ago
TU-??
Tell Kim Junk Ill fly on it, I will bet with all of you MY LIFE that He dare not to sit on that air plane !! KKK and not gonna sit on any military airplane that made in Russian...kkk
CharlieDoan 11 months ago
concorde was genius....pure and simply
interesting history the tu had though, red wikipedia :-)
gentmartin 11 months ago
concorde was genius....pure and simply
PS tu 144s are owned by US and used for weather and recon
gentmartin 11 months ago
Tu-xx Russian piece of shit!
CharlieDoan 11 months ago
@CharlieDoan I just hate the way "Westerners" always try to discredit every Russian achievement. On any passenger aircraft other than Concorde a burst tyre would not rupture a fuel tank. They solved this problem afterwards by installing Kevlar linings in the fuel ranks. If there was no design flaw they would not have had to install these linings,so the Concorde wasnt perfect either.The Tu-144 wasnt a piece of shit.
Lvieru96 11 months ago
@Lvieru96 Being that the Concorde was mostly of British design, of course it too was a POS.
PanzerAngriff 11 months ago
@Lvieru96 No matter what Russian made fancy shit to serve for HUMAN are SHIT!
They only made good Katyusha missles, 130mm Cannon are all things to DESTROY the world are very excellent!
- Just ask the world to see How many deluxe cars of Russian TODAY can compete with Japanese, German...or even with Young industry South Korea ex: Huynday, Kia....
- Russian's shit can not have a sit in anythings to serve people in the peace time !! Poor Russian
CharlieDoan 11 months ago
@CharlieDoan
You are another troll who has no argument to come up against the fact that TU-144 is shit.Are you still in the 60's? You have nothing better to do?
Just because you are western,doesent mean you have to discredit every russian achievement.
Russia have the most reliable space vehicles today,so that is an achievement.Why are you talking about deluxe cars?Did you know Concorde wasnt safe too? That it has,structure,heating,wing,and radiation issues that the Tu-144 didnt have?
Lvieru96 11 months ago
Fucking air plane breaking by itself Tu-144! This kind of model killed alot of their pilots and people! Fucking buy Boeing OK..Russian only good for fighting jet (maybe) but to serve the people are S U C K E D! for sure! nobody buy TU - bullshit
- Only poor countries like Vietnam,Cuba, North Korea, Cambodia,Laos...former communist still using them (got no choice, got not enough dollars to buy Boeing!) - Poor communist brothers, Fuck Russian!
CharlieDoan 1 year ago
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Lvieru96 11 months ago
An ugly plane, not stable at low speeds, short range, every single flight had breakages, pilots had to wear oxygen masks, a landing parachute, two crashes in 70's with 7 dead pilots and so on - a nightmare aircraft. A pity Concorde's rival.
Vad533 1 year ago
@Vad533
It was actually longer than the concorde.
Lvieru96 11 months ago
The engineers of the Concorde knew there was a design flaw in the plane from a previous incident. The skin around the fuel tanks was very-thin to keep weight down. In the previous incident a blown tire ruptured the skin and the tank, causing fuel to leak. The real cause of the crash - cheap engineering to keep the weight down, faulty cheaply made fuel valve which is the real cause of the crash.
Bottom line, no new fighter planes or bombers were designed by Limeys or Froggies after 1975
copilot7777 1 year ago
@copilot7777 Who designed the Space Shuttle? Idiot.
The Russians stole the concord design and the US stole jet and rocket technology from Europe.
Read a history book thick head, and don't believe everything you see that comes out of Hollywood!
Yes, Concord had some design flaws, as do many other aircraft, but it was ahead of it's time and a huge success.
How many Boeings have crashed due to design flaws?
freefallnut 1 year ago 2
@freefallnut ...kkk Russian now NOT ENOUGH MONEY to continue space programs! PERIOD..
NOT NEED TO SAY NO MORE!
Chinese are taking 2nd place of super power of the world...Poor Russie pussie
CharlieDoan 11 months ago
@freefallnut Yes! it's true! but the Americans did not expect that the Soviet Union so quickly able to copy and improve the aircraft and make it much luchshe.Ya he watched a documentary film about this aircraft.
mioritsa 10 months ago
clearly, he did not choose well....
StellarBlue1 1 year ago
The Tu-144 actually had enough seating for the plane to be economically viable. The Concord only had one or two routes that were profitable for British Airways or Air France.
blindandwatching 1 year ago
@blindandwatching - yeah, but in Soviet Russia, who had enough money or permission to travel to actually go anywhere in one of these?
JBofBrisbane 1 year ago
Sad end of a bautiful jet. I like both, the Concorde and the TU 144.
Slaterator 1 year ago
yep it was a ledgend but i went on the concorde once ... anyways the concorde was a ledgend too
coolblah243 1 year ago
Can somebody tell me what happend in this video?! Sry, but i only see the Tu 144 is going down...
Micha4277 1 year ago
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@Micha4277 go Wikipedia-org (or google for it)
there search TU 144
there read chapter Paris Crash
Ann0ynimouse 1 year ago
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@Micha4277 go Wikipedia (or google for it)
there search TU 144
there read chapter Paris Crash
Ann0ynimouse 1 year ago
@beeroosterm You are right. I am British, English to be more specific. I also read the Wiki entry after you and watched the show down between the Mustang. I think the overwhelming conclusion was that the BMW was the better engineered car in terms of handling, steering, feel and speed and that the Mustang was great value for money, more fun and in my opinion prettier. I think its fair to say the the driver was a little biased towards the American car and why not, he's patriotic. but better???
tom101177 1 year ago
@tom101177 top gear?
Cathaydude 1 year ago
@Cathaydude well yes lol amongst other sources as well as having driven an M3, but its just a fact. i'm neither german nor a BMW driver and if it was my money I'd probably go for the Mustang because, shit! who doesn't want a Mustang! My favourite car is an old 60s Dodge Charger. Doesn't make it better engineered than say a Gullwing.
tom101177 1 year ago
@tom101177 u like american cars just like hamster. (richard hammond)
Cathaydude 1 year ago
"Tupolev" is not fortunate name for planes
MagdalenaFz 1 year ago
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(The list was included in the Tu-144 service record provided by the USSR to BAC-Aérospatiale in late 1978, when requesting Western technological aid with the Tu-144, and is probably incomplete)
coldfarted 1 year ago
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All Tupolevs wants to kill you :/
kein96 1 year ago
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U fools, the Tutu-144 was a creation of fine espionage! from the USSR.
Zyvex10 1 year ago
The reason why they stop concorde was because the tickets was too expensive, and concorde was a very dangerous plane, who was supposed to land on certain runways
IceManTBG1 1 year ago
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@IceManTBG1 your an idiot concorde was the safest plane in the sky
HopeRanchFBS 1 year ago
@HopeRanchFBS omfg what stupid people have youtube... read more for concorde and than commend for that..
IceManTBG1 1 year ago
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@IceManTBG1 dude your retarded look at the fatcs after they fixed the problems concorde was going for like 30 years strong and in my book never had a crah because it wasnt concordes fault it was a fantastic plane trust me ive been on it twice
HopeRanchFBS 1 year ago
One of the few times that the American Government made the right decision concerning a boondoggle was to cancel support for a supersonic transport for civilian use.
49bobbyk 1 year ago
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@49bobbyk I suppose. But damn if it wouldn't have been a spectacular plane, eh?
beeroosterm 1 year ago
chuja widać
westbam1989 1 year ago
Este infortunado accidente aeronáutico ocurrió el domingo 3 de junio de 1973 en el marco del 30° Salón Internacional de Paris - aeropuerto de Le Bourget. Se cumplían 100 años del nacimiento del aviador Santos Dumont.
El Concorde quien le precedió, despego a las 15:10' y el TUPOLEV 144 despego a las 15:21'.
Dentro de las causa del accidente se manejan dos hipótesis: una cámara filmadora de la televisora TF1 y una modificación de los ingenieros en el sistema de estabilización automático.
luislineroq 1 year ago
although the concord lived longer but the Tu-144 is a legend
marooojaro 1 year ago 19
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@marooojaro Yep - A LEGENDARY PIECE OF SHIT!!!
beeroosterm 1 year ago
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@marooojaro Once again - it was a legendary PIECE OF SHIT!
beeroosterm 1 year ago
@marooojaro Yes - it's a legendary piece of shit!
beeroosterm 1 year ago
@marooojaro A legend only in your own mind. The -144 was junk.
beeroosterm 1 year ago
@marooojaro Concorde was built over a long period of time, and the Russian SST project was "rushed" to beat the Concorde to be the first commercial plane. Also, the Russian project when made didn't have tests for stress, fires or anything to see if it was even flight-worthy. It just flew. Concorde went through safety assessments, time and research which is how it got to the real only Commercial SST. No effort was made to make the TU-144 safe. The video shows it breaking up after too much stress.
MajorWales 11 months ago
@marooojaro According to whom?
itsmegp46 10 months ago
@marooojaro both are.
Alexvideoclip 10 months ago
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In Soviet Mother Russia, plane kills YOU!
R4TeT 1 year ago
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Best technical characteristics? Could the Tu-144 fly supersonic without using its afterburners? Besides which, you are technically wrong about the Tu-144 landing at any airport. Concorde could land at any airport that could support a Jumbo 747. The Tu-144 was much noisier than Concord and they never attempted certification at most international airports. The aircraft was plagued with problems in its short service life whereas Concorde had one crash in 25 years.
mr2kat 1 year ago
my country is better
efastMixer 1 year ago
Why don't you guys leave the planes out of the "my country's better" penis sizing.. All of you..
texNoz 1 year ago 20
@texNoz yes, stuck that piece of shit TU-144 in Lenin's ass would you! former productions of USSR, former fucking communist to poor my country : VIETNAM!
- FUCK RUSSIAN
CharlieDoan 1 year ago
@texNoz Yeah... especially this plane. LOL!
PanzerAngriff 11 months ago
I think, everything, Russia has the most perfect aviation and space technologies. It is the fact. By the way, Tu-144 has made the first flight earlier, than Concorde. And these two planes absolutely different technically. Stupid trolls are rather amusing
LomarkII 1 year ago 2
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@LomarkII with eastern countries it is very hard to know where is the line between "I think" and "I 've been told to think" - this "perfect technology" is not representative of the fact that Russia is still poor, disfunctional, and corrupted and more than any other countries uses symbols to hide the reality
jamecontent 1 year ago
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@LomarkII Wake up, Ivan - Russian space and aviation technology are anything but perfect. The Tu-144 was a cobbled together piece of junk. Hell, Tupolev himself had to be present in order that the plane be allowed to leave the ground! Even then the plane was full of problems on every flight, many of them life-threatening. It is a miracle more people were not killed. Concorde flew for many years in a normal manner and without major mishap. The lone crash was a fluke caused by runway debris.
beeroosterm 1 year ago
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The Tu-144 flew 9 years, the Concorde over 30 also the Concorde flew more hours per year, and both had one accident so figures say Concorde was the best
Mad69sur 1 year ago
@Mad69sur both aircraft were feets of enginering, its just a shame that jue to cost or watever, wer stuck with the fat american jumbo.........
spazoflondon 1 year ago
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@spazoflondon Realy both planes where amazing, but the fuel comsumption was 3 or 4 times more compared to planes of the same capacity flying subsonic, that was really a luxury waste, and that good times of petrol are over. Maybe in the future people can fly hipersonic, but is not in the near future. Ice age, stone age, iron age, coil age, petrol age... we need to look forward
Mad69sur 1 year ago
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RUSSIAN PLANE= BAD QUALITY
jema2009 1 year ago
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FROM RUSSIA TETRIS TODO BIEN PERO SI PUEDEN OBSERVAR ADMIRO MUCHO A LOS RUSOS Y EX UNION SOVIETICA PERO COMO PUEDE SER QUE SE HAYA CAIDO COMO PAPEL DE MAL ESTADO ME DA BRONCA ESO SI LOS RUSOS TIENEN BUENOS AVIONES PORQUE NO LOS HACEN SEGUROS????????????
jema2009 1 year ago
@jema2009 ¿De que vas?
Mad69sur 1 year ago
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The TU144 was based on stolen Concorde plans
itsmepaul57 1 year ago
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RUSSIAN PLANE = DEATH
miamad 1 year ago
Тушку делали в спешке чтобы доказать что мы и в этом круче всех. А Конкорд делали чтобы возить жирных буржуев в Нью Йорк и обратно и не дай бог не уронить. Поэтому тушка получилась с тормозными парашутами, меньшей дальностью и кучей глюков а Конкорд оказался вполне жизнеспособным транспортом. Амеры в это время строили большую экономичную дозвуковую джумбу и не мудрили. Возить пасажиров на сверхзвуке это все равно что мотоцикл-такси.
shidnyk 1 year ago 2
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Amazing how people in denial try to thumb down true comments about how the Ty-144 failed. You guys hold something against yourselves that the Ty-144 failed and can't accept it. I believe that the Ty-144 had lots of potential and I wish it was successful but it wasn't. The Concorde lasted way longer that Konkordski and was more successful in service.
xTomcatsForeverVF84x 1 year ago
""Tu-144 can transport more passengers..""
I thought Concord was bigger
gaguy1967 1 year ago
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RUSSIAN PLANE = DEATH
miamad 1 year ago
@miamad
you pathetic
vvzpanda 1 year ago 2
@miamad Concorde, or should we name it "McTupolev" or "O'Tupolev" since it was made after Tu-144, have killed far more passengers.
SovietWarrior 1 year ago 2
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LOL!!!! Russian planes are SHIT! RUSSIAN PLANES = DEATH!. Don't ever fly on one! You will die!
miamad 1 year ago
@miamad пошёл ты на хуй, буржуйский пидор.Встретил бы-уебал бы тебя, суку.Членососина ебучая.
aviafanat 1 year ago 2
@miamad retard
gigobait 1 year ago
@OhMaiLanta
Don't be a dickhead. I hate these russian stereotypes. These people created the first commercial supersonic plane, and you are saying the pilots crashed it because the got drunk "of vodka". At least say it right douchebag.
nitcheeboy 1 year ago
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Good view of the aircraft. You can see the aircraft is in a flat stall. The pilot applies power and pulls back on the stick. The immediate result is over-stress on the airframe and catastrophic structural failure. I suspect the pilot was not properly briefed on the aircraft's flight envelope. This is an inherent weakness of the delta design but I would expect the flight computers to prevent this type of occurrence. Maybe he had them turned off?
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