Mahler: Symphony No. 10: Adagio - Part 3 of 3

[amorpaz1]

I've long been a huge fan of Mahler's 9th symphony, but only just recently I've gotten around to listening to his other "late era" pieces (Das Lied von der Erde and this), and it's all really great stuff! I'm not that excited by the earlier Mahler symphonies (parts of his 5th are good), but the more traditional harmonies aren't as interesting as the frantic stuff he was writing in his last few years. Very gripping, immediate stuff, yet distant in a way.

[gr4l9um20b7o]

Mention how the instruments change from 6:12 to 6:20

[scorpiogod1]

I need to take my girlfriend to see an orchestra. It would be so romantic, and both of our first times. I'll even wear a tie =]

[amorpaz1]

@scorpiogod1 Not a bad date, just make sure you go see a piece of music you both like.

[magaptn]

this is probably a production by BETA Fils Muenchen, am I right?

[djohnnyf]

Whatever your feelings about the authenticity of Cooke's completed score, it's worth listening to the whole symphony, and judge it on its merits. The finale, though unpolished, is filled with a sense of Mahler finding peace. 

[radstainforth]

No women ...

[Xe054]

I think this is the most creative film coverage I've ever seen on a musical piece.

[Straichen]

This is bugging me; I wonder if someone can explain. At 6:30, right before the final pizzicato chord, there is a faint plucked sound that sounds like the dominant. But I was listening to this with the score, and that note isnt there. Did one of the strings just blow it?

[Tokkemon]

@Straichen Sounds like a mistake to me. :)

[Samthemuffinman]

@Straichen It sounds like a bass player accidentally plucked his low C string, or hit it or something

[lty2k84]

@Straichen that sucks, being the final of all his Symphonies, and the very last chord. Soooo sad. Mahler is pissed.

[EdnaTwiggs]

@Straichen ....I hear that note before the final oizzacato....but it's faint using earphones.

[gr4l9um20b7o]

@Straichen Maybe that's just because of the tuning.

[gr4l9um20b7o]

@gr4l9um20b7o

And there's a simular one at 5:06

[gr4l9um20b7o]

@Straichen And there's a simular one at 5:06

[pawdaw]

how glorious the Vienna Phil sounded at this time. especially the strings....the warmth of the lower strings, sweetness of the violin tone, that instantly recognizable vibrato. so great....

[TheVrajr]

Is that the butt end of a baton sticking up from the first viola stand? Could it be that Bernstein kept one there just in case of embergency? Am I imagining things here?

[a0308717]

is there a piano in there? at aroung 01:00?



[Tokkemon]

@a0308717 Nope there's no piano in this score.

[freshhh1994]

@a0308717

it's string pizzicato

[satoichi771]

@a0308717 its a harp^^

[andrewbautista23]

let us listen to the symphony. let mahler be heard. let the man be heard. let those struggling, dissonant, longing phrases be heard.

[nolanstolz]

but once the low F# goes up to D# on beat "4" it loses its tonic sound and sounds like a part of the viio/V of V chord (B#-D#-F#). But still, the viio/V at the same time as the V7(sub 6) is still ringing is quite a moment. That A# in question still sounds to me like an added 6 to the V, but it also acts as the seventh of the vii/V (B#-D#-F#-A#) because it resolves to the G#. It's also interesting that he builds the overtone series in the bass and harp after: C#-C#-G#-C#-E#-G#-B-C#-D# (5:45)

[nolanstolz]

m. 266 always trips me out (5:35). the V chord is present: 1st vlns have B, the bassoons and clarinets have C# and E#, and the violins and the violas have an A# (6 sub for the 5). But on beat "3," (5:38) the cellos have F# and the strings move the A# down an octave, so it sounds like tonic. But, the C#-E# in the winds are still sounding, so it sounds like V and I at the same time. But, the 1st violins have a B# (which sounds like viio/V to me). I, V and viio/V at the same time (!)

[BachRocks314]

Wow, what a performance.

[kiterunner007]

I can only imagine what Mahler could have done with another 3 or 4 movements! What a tragedy that we'll never know.

[Nimiauredhel]

@kiterunner007 Mahler did finish writing the symphony, just not orchestrating it. a few completed versions are around. I liked what I heard even though it's not 'pure' Mahler.

[freshhh1994]

@kiterunner007

He completed the symphony in draft, just unorchestrated. Try looking for a recording of Cooke's performing version, it's well worth it.

[wierdo1232123]

@kiterunner007 We need to find his grave, bring him back to life and make him finish this symphony!

[freshhh1994]

@kiterunner007

I don't understand your comment. Mahler drafted the entire symphony in short score, and the world premiere of Deryck Cooke's acclaimed performing version was played in 1964. Since then, numerous recordings by prominent Mahler conductors have been released.

[TheDemonicPenguin]

@kiterunner007 I recommend the Barhsai completion. Sure, it's not quite what Mahler would have done, but it's way more interesting than Cooke's version. It's available on CD.

[intelpl]

absolutely stunning, thank you.