Forbidden & Limited List Discussion

[Animefriend1999]

nice playmate ^^

[yoelqve]

DUDE!!! WHERE DID YOU GET THE MAT!!! I WOULD TOTALLY BUY THAT!!

[shinobiEVAN]

that mat is so epic

[Reviewer158]

I have 2 chaos emporer dragons so don't mess with me.

[Nightwing690]

frogs w/dark strike = epic pwnage

[13131000TheAlex]

forbidden and limited list is dumb! I hate it! and really i wish no cards were forbidden its just not right they should only have limited but the for and lim list doesnt stop me too much but i think its dumb

[juniorfromcali92]

lmao fukin nerds POKEMON FTW :p

[purplewolfranger22]

@juniorfromcali92 hey guess what pokemon is for nerds your a little bitch go suck pikachus cock

[TrickyNDexy]

kick ass MAT o.o

[mtimpy360]

how ironic zombies wont make that much an impact look at the meta now. ahhhhhhh!!!! zombie swarms everywhere.

[cardgamechampion]

WOAH! nice mat! that mat is so cool! :) also, i like lightning vortex over fissure, considering that now you can run 3v of those too, i believe. 3 fissure isnt that bad, at the most, more removal... also, i have a question: can u use riryoku on a opposing monster, like shrink kind-of? id say that they did poretty good, though im still not sure why they banned crush card virus :/ and lol, dark magician otk, does that really exist ??? lol...

[blob22222]

card of safe return and plague !!

[killzonelord]

Monster reborn again......FUCK!!!

[TeamRaeg]

now that its banned, do you still have that gold crush?

[0tk11]

mezuki brought back zombies..IN A HUGE WAY!

diva-zombie ftw

[bzzb0123]

this is cool thanks for showing it

[logo9797]

its stupid to bann cards

[clevelandhighschool]

well if you have a yata-lock on you.... you get the picture

[makeMEmusical]

i hate that monster reborn is banned cause now im running monarchs

[narunavilink46]

yeah im glad to see resque cat go because peaple were over useing it to summon things like goyo

[singhatar0912]

SYNCHRO CATS DEAD ALREADY MAN

[TeamDarkCard2009]

well this new format is good cuz BW took 1st at Shonen Jump (kind of surprising) and it will bring back other decks too

this will be a very interesting format

i like/dislike LS even though 4 somewhat main cards got banned but they can live without them since JD is at 2 still + it is now the top deck

[sadswede1]

Hate to lose Gale but yeah he deserved it :(

just gotta hope my BWs still kickass :)

[BryanDing3000]

Reborn stayed for 3 formats actually, it was unbanned in March 2008, and it stayed limited until now.

[PatatoesChips]

could u guy help me get a play mat plz? :D

[singhatar0912]

what synchro cat is totally dead now wooho but black wings are still kick ass but now adays lightsworms and glads are owning

[sneakybob101]

@singhatar0912

Umm... And Zombies COMPLETELY!!!!

[singhatar0912]

zombies to didnt know that at my locals one kid has been using zombies

[singhatar0912]

@sneakybob101 what do you think will happen to blackwings

[sneakybob101]

@singhatar0912

Blackwings won't face anything because they aren't the best decks. The main decks are lightsworn and zombie. Lightsworns will die soon because everything in lightsworn has been remade. (Charge, Judgement Dragon, Honest, Solar Recharge) Blackwings won't face anything but gale will probably be remade as a super in champion pack!

[singhatar0912]

@sneakybob101 oh ok thanx

[singhatar0912]

zombies are not dead

[asterp248]

thats a kick ass duel mat

[bls90]

LOL u guys presented them in alphabetical order rofl

[YuGiOhNeWs]

they wanted to put CCV on the list but they couldnt figure out why

so they putt it in turbo pack and it became 2 easy 2 use

[freeofgreed]

Kind of mad about Reborn and safe return, but DSF and solemn made me really happy. I like too use Dark Bribe anyway I think it's a much better card.

[BryanDing3000]

Also, Solemn at 1 really pisses me off, I spented 120 bucks on all 3, I would've limited Dark Bribe instead because Bribe has no downsides to you. Your opponent just draws a card. Though Bribe cannot negate summonings but I leave Bottomless to do that.

[Hebi2Taka]

bottomless doesn't negate the summon tough

[egertalex]

spellcasters have got to have their spotlight for once

[mateon28]

I didnt know the list and i knew (can take an educated guess)/thought that honest and JD werent going to get hit for several reasons, that wasnt a shock to me some other parts of the list were.

[corruption2009]

me the only thing that i dont agree with is card of safe return??? wtf

and soloman...its the only thing that i could stop jd

BASTARDS LOL

AND FUCK LIGHTSWORM NOT EVEN TOUCHED

[AwsomestKill]

yay !!!!! muzuki go zombies

[LocalChamp9139]

any1 think they will bring solemn judgement will be back at 3? any time soon? i miss mine =/

[corruption2009]

I TOTALLY MISS MINE AS WELL =(

SOLEMN

[LocalChamp9139]

yep it sucks i spent $150 for my 3 solemns =/

[BixZsc]

youre just stupid

[LocalChamp9139]

care to elaborate before u start flaming ?

[BixZsc]

spending 150 for a few solemns...

that is stupid, therefore, you are stupid.

[mateon28]

this is not meant to be a flame to you but you should check your prices before you buy something like that, at their peak solemns were no more than 30-40 each for the most expensive metal raiders ones, but i do think that it may come back in a format or 2 possibly.

[LocalChamp9139]

1st of all i dont trade so if i need a card i buy it. at the time i bought the 3 solemns they were 50-60. and yes mine are metal raiders in mint condition.

[mateon28]

okay your probably bought it from a store then didnt you? that would probably be why it was so much, but by ebay's prices (which most go by besides stores) it was like 35-40 max

[Banifam]

cool vid

[RaiEstel47]

They Didnt Kill blackwings as much as any other deck.that annoys me!

[DBZFANultimate]

im glad about dark strike

[NerfOwngeByJud]

rescue cat is too cute to be banned

[mattavd123]

dark strike in tele dad while it was alive was broken and in blackwings pretty much the same itdeserves 2 be banned. however lightsworns should have had jd banned it practically is pwnage 1nce it hits the field

[WildHarpie]

You guys must be busy havn't seen any new videos from you guys. Well hope you guys are well and hope we see you guys again on here.

[zarfies23]

true and some player talking about how they missed black whirlwind and hit other cards the hit black whirlwind by clipping its main targets wings so to speak lol

[gamergrounds]

Good by my Blackwing Creator Deck! :(

i summon sirocco and special summon gale and bora from my hand! I synchro summon for GOD STRIKE FIGHTER! I tribute Sirocco to DSF effect as well as DSF! then i special summon The Dark Creator! I remove bora to special summon DSF and activite DSF effect to tribute The Dark Creator and DSF as well for Game!

[themangoproductions]

there will probably be an emergency ban list when stardust overdrive comes out cuz in the tcg format we are getting 2 new lightsworn monsters and if they are somewhat brolic they have to bring solemn back most likely next format it will be back at 3

[TwilightBracer]

Honestly I love the new bandlist. I hated BW, and synchro Cat. IT didn't take any skill!!! but now I can run Raiza Control on you bitc****. BW is Dead and so is synchro cat :) No more crush!!!!!

[onehalfpoint]

i am guessing u run lightsworn and blackwings took more skill if u didnt use dark strike i would have rather they semi limited gale it would have been better since they banned dark strike but whatever and lightsworn takes no skill whatsoever its just broken expensive deck if u have the money u have the win

[BlackWingChaos]

Dude. you can still run blackwings with 1 gale...use mistrals/vayus lol theyre just not as effective

[kingkoua1]

blackwings aren't dead

[fugbugly]

its gay that you are limited to 1 cyber dragon, and only 1 call of the haunted

[salvationwar]

Lightsworn is good

Lightsworn is bad

It's an auto piloted deck

the only choice you need to make is "should I charge lumina or Lyla?"

if it mills good, it wins

if it mills bad, it looses

(I found that gadgets seem to beat the shit outta LS) In any note; LS takes absolutely no skill to play whatsoever

[xGeemaa]

Gogo Empty jar decks

Tis wat im runnin...At my local shop I milled a dude for 35 in 1 turn...

[Penguinator76]

how did u guys upload this?? it's over 10 mins

[salvationwar]

fissure @ 3 and DDWL too

GADGETS MUTHA F***AS!!

also solidarity with BWs is beautiful

[bballzbballzaa]

guys dont hate me or kill me for asking this but why is dsf banned all he deos is tribute a mosnter and ur oppnent takes damage to its lvl x200

[salvationwar]

because it's an OTK

2 DSF and an open field is GAME

[bballzbballzaa]

how ok u used his effect on the other dsf thats like 2400 damagae even if he was 12 stars which he is not and then theres 2600 thats 5000 (pretending he is 12 stars) i think im missing somehting

[salvationwar]

DSF ATK directly-2600

DSF ATK directly-2600

DSF Sack itself-1400

DSF sack itself-1400

2600

2600

1400

1400

____

8000

[onehalfpoint]

because with blackwings dsf was fucking god u could attack directly with all ur special summoned blackwings move into main phase 2 synch for dsf and just tribute everything off for game

[bballzbballzaa]

hmmmm i see why they banned

[Thunderwolf12345]

dude honest is limited to 2 and black whirlwind is to 2

[yugiohmaster360]

go check it again dumbass

[KingKongSlong6969]

no its not

[ThaiJjang]

no its not

[pokemonmaster455]

no there not check the official list its up

[onehalfpoint]

ah the monarch era now i am trading off my raizas and my caius playset for blackwing stuff and now gale!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!­!!!!!!!!!!!!! is limited fuck that i am running blackwings and i am going to kick some ass in a skillful way motha fucka!!!!!!!!!!!

[salvationwar]

**Cough**Replce the gales with solidarity**cough**

MY solidwings deck is fuxin incredible lol

[zarfies23]

plus JD has one of the easiest summon requirements atleast dad requires some type of plannin and skill JD can jus be top deck at almost anytyme and use its effect

[onehalfpoint]

yeah dark armed takes way more skill to get out and isnt even as good lightsworn will never be fucking touched will it?

[altear77]

yeah!!!! dark strike gone!!!!!!!

im kinda suprised jd isn't limited well that's cool for me!

[MrSnorlax22]

nooooooooooooooooo not dark strike!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[AwsomestKill]

well those two judgments are off my want list lol

[TheTricky227]

what do you guys use to make custom mats?

[hoghong1]

i think people are goin to start making like chaos decks again cuase of the semi ing of chaos sorcerer

[zarfies23]

but i still dont understand why lightsworns get a slap on the wrist while plant blackwings ect. get their best cards taken out JD needs to b limited and honest needs to b semi limited

[acetraker1988]

JD + Honest need to be limited

Dark armed + Gale are weaker than both

in my view i would ban JD and dark armed

mini Envoys should gtfo and they should stop making cards that can wipe the field clean.

[mysticjason7]

What they need to limit is JD...

[sharxfan20]

lol no they need to limit black whirlwind!!! they totally skipped it!

[DuelistsAfterDark]

i know if you have 3 of those on the field thats 3 monsters every time you normal summon! BROKEN mutch?

[aubreycopeland]

i run a dark deck and card safe return was my fave when it came to draw power. i guess with the loop i got with 2 spear cretins, i shouldn't be suprised it got hit.

[TheMikey2255]

aww fhush we lost crush n reborn,,,,, :(

[TailsfanTL]

I'm a little sad about Reborn, but at least Haunted's Back and if I had Three Warrior Ladies, I would use them :)

[GoRabbids]

wat was the plant deck call debis plants??

[desfrogforgame]

You can get DSF, BRD and another Lv 7 synchro quicker than synchro cat with Debris+Dandylion.

[akosimikeee]

debris can only bring out dragon syncros

you should have said salvo+deko

[GoRabbids]

why is mind master limited and zombie is still dead wich sucks and gale at one stupid they should put cyber dragon at 3 and limit or semi honest and the ban list is messed up and confusing

[DarkIrishMagician]

MORPHTRONICS WILL PWN THE METAGAME!

[krakapowa]

i agree light sworn is dead.

[morphtronicduelist]

dammit lol lonfire blossom got semi limited plus this new ban list is screwing up my plant deck

[09GhettoGandhi]

its screwing everything DX fuck konami

[Stay70573]

hmmm i looked iit over

only monster reborn/call of the haunted effect me

i use a pure Blitzkrieg deck

i have stuff like: Gate guardian, raviel, beilal, guardian of order and jinzo

so jinzo is extremly good now with call of the haunted!

[TheDayIsNotLost]

Yes!! BREAKER 3!! TOO BAD I DON'T HAVE EVEN ONE!!

[OPLEdople]

i love sycro cat since it so quick lol but i run blackwings and im glad there dieing lol

[TheMadVbackup]

i hate rescue cat im glad its limited now

[Biomart]

I really dislike how they limited Solemn

[AwsomestKill]

ya i liked it when people gave up all their life points :(

[bellcross4]

i like it because it dose not effect me but it also sucks because i cant challenge my deck with the best at there best

[jaimepo8]

Damn I realy like gale :(

[bonidacci23]

Breaker at 3 ftw!!!

[Kabujop101]

wow this banlist is going to be interesting

[darknessfailssssss]

breaker would 2 to main maybe for other decks and put the 3rd one for side i suppose lol if u need!

[AgeOfPwn]

truthfully lightsworn really wasnt effected at all

[SILVERAMMO777]

people are going to prob use dark bribe now

[sweetmager1]

man i think they should have not taken out a lonefire thats like the heart of the plant deck.....

and yes i do run a plant deck

[OTKxDUELiST]

I think they should've hit lightsworn a little bit. I think the only reason they didn't is so they still have the most expensive deck at it's peak (especially with the new CP Garoth which is also like another $20-30 dollar card for those who try to max out their deck with holo's). Good thing I broke up my Blackwings like 2 weeks ago lol.

[Solidiquis]

I can't believe Blackwing got hit hard but Lightsworn stayed safe.

wtf

[504Error]

lolwut u run bw thats why your complaining.

[Stay70573]

i think monster reborn was extremly cheap, but i think its a good thing its been banned

call of the haunted and premature burial are not as cheap, but the combos you can make with them suck, like a jinzo combo, since haunted effect is negated, and jinzo is not destroyed when haunted is

ya, i also agree lightsworns should be banned, they along with the gladbeast are seriosly cheap sometimes.

but so are cards like jinzo, black horus, etc etc

[redknight21]

premature is much more broken with new cards such as arms hole. abuse it moar. also with brionac, 4000 lp for 5 monsters?

[Alfredolml]

I think yall should do something productive.

Like ask a girl on a date.

Get into sports.

Something.

[Stay70573]

i agree, but let these guys live there own lives, i play yugioh, but i have a girlfreind who plays too, so i don't see that much of a problem

[Andy90611]

win

[Stay70573]

lol, why thank you

[chocolatebruv]

i prefer the original cards still to 5d's and GX because i wroked really hard and have mearly got loads of cards that make a really good yugi deck and i will make a deck list and send it to you =)

[chocolatebruv]

does that mean that black luster soilder envoy of the biggining is not banned?

[kyogre20]

they only discussed the changes, so it's still banned

[wtb231990]

i like it but they should have done something to lightsworm tho because they touched every other deck WTF

[2346]

omg no dark strike fighter :(((

[TwilightBracer]

Yes dark strike figther. It's so cheap that i felt like ripping the card when I got beaten by it. So CHEAP!!!!

[vmiget01]

just wait til the format after the next. we thought glads wer untouched for many formats while teledad kept getting smaller. then Bestiari got limited.

[kikzhead]

wow lightsworns untouched again if they dont come 1st people shud jus giv up on that deck.

[Megaman624705]

they should have kept monster reborn limited

[juggy2611]

I also started playing last september!!!!!

[ThrillWill28]

hes not going to be gone forever. stop making a big deal. 2 formats at most.

[DestinyHeroMaster116]

not dsf....:[

[toboyoman]

bye bye dark strike =) , but.... morphs lost there one for one no more celfon swarm :(

[112Think]

r these cards already limited????

[AJcologne4]

wow...lightsworn decks are untouched...

[SleepyJohn1]

call of the haunted can be activated during the battle phase :D

[YuGi0hVsGX]

Destroyed popluar decks, but made old decks more better

[DoesXNotXExist]

great video 5/5

[sandman423]

I love that mat

[bellcross4]

I like it but thene it sucks because know i cant see how good my deck is agents the best

[Kenshinhacker1990]

y is black rose dragon limited???

[StardustDragon22]

this for mat really helped my deck out alot; psychic monarch are gona be a big hit now. 3 raizas now the only hit that i mostly got was the bottomless cuz blackwings were anoying

[gangster8101]

konami just feels sorry for all the shitty plays who spent a grand on a full lightsworn deck only to get beaten by common-filled decks because their dueling skills are shit ^.^

[dragonsword777]

lol i went to the ancient propehcy sneak preview and i faced a kid that had Gladiator beasts and i was able to beat him with my Starter Deck 09 (with some changes) with Stardust and Goyo helping out alot

[gangster8101]

my friend gave a kid his blackwing deck to duel against him with and beat his opwn blackwing dekc with the starter deck 09 without any extra synchros, lol..

[MrItsthatguy]

i dont really like this list i think lightsworn should have been touched a little but i use gb so it dosent hurt me

[louie894]

3 breaker,dd,fissure = huge combos gunna come out real fast..

[OffTheWallDuels]

hmm....this is sick i think this format is gonna be hella of alot funner because now we dont need to worrie about getting solemned and botemlessed continuesly!

[Rayzer13]

Can you tell me where you guys got your custom mat??

[gladiatorbeast37]

i love the ban list - monster reborn cuz now i can have 2 chaos sorreror and gb wont touched

[slayerv29]

lol still no dino synchros or tuners!!!!

[TeamDarknessSPR]

i also believe that Jd should be down to 1 for 2 reasons.

1. Its Really Easy To Play

2. Its Being Reprinted

[spartan021595]

just saying, it already is reprinted

[YukiJadenSurvives]

Dsf being banned is the worst thing that can happen.

[TheNeighborhoodScrub]

God I just LOVE that mat.

[titan1990omega]

hahahaha resue cats just got spead and or nutered

[lokoskater666]

JD kept at 2 sucks

and crush card being banned sucks too cuz i was gonna use it on a mill deck lol

[gashbleach]

you said skill drain negates d.d. warrior lady but thats only if it doesnt die by battle right?

[925bayareapinoy]

lol bye bye synchro cats haha....solemn at 1 is pretty gay tho

[925bayareapinoy]

nice mat! whered they get it

[vandezel14]

i loved rescue cat too lol

[PSYCH0OUTLAW]

what happens 2 blackwings now that gale is drop to 1 ? damm lol

[CaPnDaAsSProduction]

there fine...

I ran 1 gale befroe when they were 3 it works just as good.. just less syncro

[TeamValkyrion]

blackwings gonna play 3 dark eruption

[sawfan25]

thats blows for the people who bought a crush card

[vandezel14]

lol yep and 3 solems for their deck

[xtrider0159]

I agree with the list entirely except for unlimiting fissure and maybe banning crush. In a game where monster effects make all the difference dsf is just too good for the game to be legal. Even though personally I wish that reborn had stayed legal, it is a pretty broken card. I'm sure gadget players are rejoicing over the unlimited fissure. But all in all I can't really complain about this list. I actually like it.

[gamastring]

monster reborn shouldn't be banned, its been around since the birth of yugioh, its like a rule, just like you need a deck of 40 to 60 cards you need 1 monster reborn

[vandezel14]

monster reborn has been brought back time and time again. y they keep banning it?