Personally, I feel the music is very weak, and with an old fart trying to preach his personal feelings, I just couldn't get into it. Not worth listening to.
While I like musicians who have social conscience, I have to disagree with this guy 100%. Sorry dude... the country is dying, but its cause of your stupid fucking ideas and morons like you.
I can't fucking stand this right wing/republican/quasi-libertarian/tea-bagging ideology he preaches on the album. The music is not bad at all but the lyrics turned it all into a pile of crap for me. Dude, just make another Demons & Wizards album next time you feel the urge to do a solo project!
i can't stand globalist elites using monetary systems to enslave us for the benefit of the few. i can't stand knowing my govt. is trying to create a global banking system and global gov. much like the EU has become the one govt. of Europe the countries are just states of the EU, pretty soon north and south American unions, African union has already been started. this band was put together specifically to help spread this political message. dont let it happen. metal heads rebel!
@corrob Cool story bro. I suppose you also can't stand knowing that for the half of your waking hours your masters will regulate when will you show up at work, when can you leave, and what will you do in the meantime, how much work will you do and how fast, which clothes can you wear and how often can you go to the bathroom?
Can you stand being fired for any reason, or no reason at all? Can you stand constantly being spied on by snitches and supervisors?
@Grindermetalhead i have kept my job for nearly a decade, i will never work for any corporation, i try to keep my money local, i don't support what i don't believe in. and i believe in standing up for what you do. the whole system is completely flawed. if we just sit back and let it go, in a few decades will be no choice they'll tell us where to work, where to spend $(electronic credits) what genetically modified cocktail to eat. and if you are qualified to have children. prison=safety?
@corrob Shit dude, whether you work for a corporation or for a so-called small business, you are still a slave. You seem to be more worried about the shit that affects your life only indirectly than you are about the shit that directly affects the half of your waking hours.
You will receive more orders from your boss in a week than from any state bureaucrat or a police officer within a lifetime.
That's why I fucking hate right wingers. They all lament totalitarianism within a state but you'll...
find exactly the same or even worse totalitarian hierarchy and discipline within a workplace as you do within a prison.
They don't mind that. That's free market capitalism baby. Take it or leave it!
Fuck that!
They hate democracy because democracy is antithetical to capitalism and tyranny of private property.
They want us to be slaves at the workplace and free to chose what kind of shit we can buy at Walmart upon receiving a wage. That's is not the kind of liberty I envision for a free society.
i agree with you on that, i'm against the right and left, 2 sides of one corrupt coin. the free market allows elites to stay in their positions of power, wal mart is an Asian slave owner selling the goods it's slaves make to us, slaves of the fed. res. i am with anyone who stands up, shouts problems with our system, i like what this guy is doing with this band, it helps get eyes open. whether you agree with him or not, i do and don't, at least he's using tools he has available to do something.
@corrob This guy is an extreme right-winger and a proponent of Austrian economics, so if you're opposed to free market ideology you shouldn't support him at all.
That shit is basically a replacement of the state tyranny by a bunch of privately owned tyrannies competing against each other, because that's what a capitalist workplace is: a private unaccountable tyranny.
And there's no real "left" in America. Your so-called left is just a slightly less crazy right-wing.
@beerhoven Anarchism, by which I mean the opposition to all hierarchical authority, and anarchy by which I don't mean a state of full blown chaos, lawlessness, dog eat dog and every man for himself but a stateless and classless society of horizontally federated, decentralized communities based around ideals of egalitarianism, free association, participatory democracy, workers' self management and mutual aid.
The only kind of society in which each individual can develop to its full potential.
@Grindermetalhead anarchism doesn't work on large scale unfortunately. The size of many of the cities would be pose significant problems. however in smaller towns anarchism has the possibility to work beautifully.
@Grindermetalhead it would be hard to maintain a safe enough state in larger communities because of all the different cultures in one community now. the only way for it to work is if everyone wants it and we all know there is always that 10% of people who just want to stir shit up or want something different, because of this it would probably end in a civil war and a government would be implemented again to regain order. but if one manages to become stable i would gladly move there.
Dude this shit is very much possible. It has already been done once successfully in Spain during the civil war, before it was violently crushed by Franco's fascist forces.
But that was over 70 years ago.
Go to
anarchism.pageabode*com/afaq/index*html
and read section I of the Anarchist FAQ to see what would the modern anarchist society look like!
@evilgenius777 I just said that it existed in Spain during the Spanish civil war.
An absence of countries and governments is what anarchism strives for.
They would be replaced by federations of decentralized, self-managed, participatory communes. That way the decision making would be decentralized and spread horizontally instead of being centralized at the top of the hierarchical pyramid of power, so the people who are directly affected by decisions would participate in their making instead...
And greed is not the problem. Greed without power to act upon is harmless.
All social injustices stem from hierarchical authority. If you remove hierarchical authority and spread power equally among all, you'll "take the bullets out of the robber's gun".
@evilgenius777 How the hell could I know that? People around the world must try it out and see if it works for them and their communities. The beautiful thing about anarchy is that people can always vote it away if they aren't satisfied with the results.
Th issue is that any community that tries to do so will be rebelling against the state and supressed. If a whole country attempts to do it some other country will invade. There would need to be simultaneous worldwide acceptance of anarchy and renouncement of weapons and violence, which will never happen, it's simply impossible for humans to do so.
@KendrickMan that "guy" is the lead guitarist and founder of Iced Earth and actually cares about what's happening in the country around him. if you wanna listen to just the music, just go to their website and listen to it. you can listen to it free there. If you don't wanna hear his insight into what the hell is going on, don't watch. simple as that.
@crazytacoburger I was talking to century media. I'd rather have them upload music than one guy's personal opinions/observations. At least mix it up with some other people going on and on about what they think instead of one guy.
Can't stand seeing this 'all seeing eye' shite all over the place. Cut this crap out.
froquini 1 year ago
Schaffer woke up, hopefully more people start to thanks to this album, Metal will always live on \m/
serjj27 1 year ago
Right wing douchebaggery... This is shit!
darkenx20 1 year ago
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MooresChannel 1 year ago
Shit music, shit ideology.
TheRealCadaver 1 year ago
Hail Sons Of Liberty.
Chuloloc 1 year ago
Personally, I feel the music is very weak, and with an old fart trying to preach his personal feelings, I just couldn't get into it. Not worth listening to.
RANhxcCORE 1 year ago 4
While I like musicians who have social conscience, I have to disagree with this guy 100%. Sorry dude... the country is dying, but its cause of your stupid fucking ideas and morons like you.
STFU!
westernfilet 1 year ago 3
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6Immortal6Fears6 1 year ago
I can't fucking stand this right wing/republican/quasi-libertarian/tea-bagging ideology he preaches on the album. The music is not bad at all but the lyrics turned it all into a pile of crap for me. Dude, just make another Demons & Wizards album next time you feel the urge to do a solo project!
Grindermetalhead 1 year ago 5
i can't stand globalist elites using monetary systems to enslave us for the benefit of the few. i can't stand knowing my govt. is trying to create a global banking system and global gov. much like the EU has become the one govt. of Europe the countries are just states of the EU, pretty soon north and south American unions, African union has already been started. this band was put together specifically to help spread this political message. dont let it happen. metal heads rebel!
corrob 1 year ago 2
@corrob Cool story bro. I suppose you also can't stand knowing that for the half of your waking hours your masters will regulate when will you show up at work, when can you leave, and what will you do in the meantime, how much work will you do and how fast, which clothes can you wear and how often can you go to the bathroom?
Can you stand being fired for any reason, or no reason at all? Can you stand constantly being spied on by snitches and supervisors?
Grindermetalhead 1 year ago 6
@Grindermetalhead i have kept my job for nearly a decade, i will never work for any corporation, i try to keep my money local, i don't support what i don't believe in. and i believe in standing up for what you do. the whole system is completely flawed. if we just sit back and let it go, in a few decades will be no choice they'll tell us where to work, where to spend $(electronic credits) what genetically modified cocktail to eat. and if you are qualified to have children. prison=safety?
corrob 1 year ago
@corrob Shit dude, whether you work for a corporation or for a so-called small business, you are still a slave. You seem to be more worried about the shit that affects your life only indirectly than you are about the shit that directly affects the half of your waking hours.
You will receive more orders from your boss in a week than from any state bureaucrat or a police officer within a lifetime.
That's why I fucking hate right wingers. They all lament totalitarianism within a state but you'll...
Grindermetalhead 1 year ago 3
find exactly the same or even worse totalitarian hierarchy and discipline within a workplace as you do within a prison.
They don't mind that. That's free market capitalism baby. Take it or leave it!
Fuck that!
They hate democracy because democracy is antithetical to capitalism and tyranny of private property.
They want us to be slaves at the workplace and free to chose what kind of shit we can buy at Walmart upon receiving a wage. That's is not the kind of liberty I envision for a free society.
Grindermetalhead 1 year ago 4
i agree with you on that, i'm against the right and left, 2 sides of one corrupt coin. the free market allows elites to stay in their positions of power, wal mart is an Asian slave owner selling the goods it's slaves make to us, slaves of the fed. res. i am with anyone who stands up, shouts problems with our system, i like what this guy is doing with this band, it helps get eyes open. whether you agree with him or not, i do and don't, at least he's using tools he has available to do something.
corrob 1 year ago
@corrob This guy is an extreme right-winger and a proponent of Austrian economics, so if you're opposed to free market ideology you shouldn't support him at all.
That shit is basically a replacement of the state tyranny by a bunch of privately owned tyrannies competing against each other, because that's what a capitalist workplace is: a private unaccountable tyranny.
And there's no real "left" in America. Your so-called left is just a slightly less crazy right-wing.
Grindermetalhead 1 year ago 2
@Grindermetalhead What political philosophy do you prescribe?
beerhoven 1 year ago
@beerhoven Anarchism, by which I mean the opposition to all hierarchical authority, and anarchy by which I don't mean a state of full blown chaos, lawlessness, dog eat dog and every man for himself but a stateless and classless society of horizontally federated, decentralized communities based around ideals of egalitarianism, free association, participatory democracy, workers' self management and mutual aid.
The only kind of society in which each individual can develop to its full potential.
Grindermetalhead 1 year ago 3
@Grindermetalhead anarchism doesn't work on large scale unfortunately. The size of many of the cities would be pose significant problems. however in smaller towns anarchism has the possibility to work beautifully.
6Immortal6Fears6 1 year ago
@6Immortal6Fears6 Why wouldn't it work on a large scale?
Spanish anarchists where able to organize on the level of entire provinces of Catalonia and Aragon during the Spanish civil war.
Entire city of Barcelona was self-managed and all the services were organized by workers' comities.
Grindermetalhead 1 year ago
@Grindermetalhead it would be hard to maintain a safe enough state in larger communities because of all the different cultures in one community now. the only way for it to work is if everyone wants it and we all know there is always that 10% of people who just want to stir shit up or want something different, because of this it would probably end in a civil war and a government would be implemented again to regain order. but if one manages to become stable i would gladly move there.
6Immortal6Fears6 1 year ago
@6Immortal6Fears6
Dude this shit is very much possible. It has already been done once successfully in Spain during the civil war, before it was violently crushed by Franco's fascist forces.
But that was over 70 years ago.
Go to
anarchism.pageabode*com/afaq/index*html
and read section I of the Anarchist FAQ to see what would the modern anarchist society look like!
Grindermetalhead 1 year ago
@Grindermetalhead
But the idealised situation you talk of could never exist because it requires an absence of countries, governments and greed.
evilgenius777 1 year ago
@evilgenius777 I just said that it existed in Spain during the Spanish civil war.
An absence of countries and governments is what anarchism strives for.
They would be replaced by federations of decentralized, self-managed, participatory communes. That way the decision making would be decentralized and spread horizontally instead of being centralized at the top of the hierarchical pyramid of power, so the people who are directly affected by decisions would participate in their making instead...
Grindermetalhead 1 year ago
@Grindermetalhead ...of having to follow orders from the top.
And greed is not the problem. Greed without power to act upon is harmless.
All social injustices stem from hierarchical authority. If you remove hierarchical authority and spread power equally among all, you'll "take the bullets out of the robber's gun".
Grindermetalhead 1 year ago
@Grindermetalhead
It may have worked in Spain, but do you truly believe that it can be implemented across the entire world?
(I'm not arguing with the ideals, but the practicalities)
evilgenius777 1 year ago
@evilgenius777 How the hell could I know that? People around the world must try it out and see if it works for them and their communities. The beautiful thing about anarchy is that people can always vote it away if they aren't satisfied with the results.
Grindermetalhead 1 year ago
@Grindermetalhead
Th issue is that any community that tries to do so will be rebelling against the state and supressed. If a whole country attempts to do it some other country will invade. There would need to be simultaneous worldwide acceptance of anarchy and renouncement of weapons and violence, which will never happen, it's simply impossible for humans to do so.
evilgenius777 1 year ago
@evilgenius777 Not true. Please read this:
anarchism*pageabode*com/afaq/secJ7*html#secj76
Replace all three * in the link with . (Dot)!
Grindermetalhead 1 year ago
I really don't care what this guy talks about every week. More music?
KendrickMan 1 year ago
@KendrickMan that "guy" is the lead guitarist and founder of Iced Earth and actually cares about what's happening in the country around him. if you wanna listen to just the music, just go to their website and listen to it. you can listen to it free there. If you don't wanna hear his insight into what the hell is going on, don't watch. simple as that.
crazytacoburger 1 year ago
@crazytacoburger I was talking to century media. I'd rather have them upload music than one guy's personal opinions/observations. At least mix it up with some other people going on and on about what they think instead of one guy.
KendrickMan 1 year ago