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  • took me 30 secs.....and I'm not even good...

  • I didn't get it.

  • i'm sure someone has mentioned this but: you could have taken pawn with queen. rook takes queen. promote pawn to queen check. white blocks with knight. queen takes knight. checkmate.

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  • man this is baby stuff... i could have played this while blindfolded!!!! and I'm not joking! it's just the logical outcome of the exchange, no tricks or tatics here!

  • If you guys are wondering. Why he didn't see the fastest checkmate. It's simply because he didn't need to look any further. First thing that came to mind was. Oh. i take the knight and he's done. So he simply did it... Also. In tournament. *eat* is much more common then i *captured* ... (well everywhere) actually... (also im a 1950) i saw queen take first..

  • Yeah, adding to the Rb1+ ideas:

    If 1...Nxb1 2.c1=Q #

    If 1...Rxb1 2.cxb1=Q+ Nxb1 Qe1 #

    A LOT of winning variations here.

  • how did you not see that?

  • what's wrong with queen to a3? i think this would be fine as well?! he can't take with the rook actually and moving the knight would be checkmate either...moving the white queen to a2 would result in a queentrade and if he takes with the knight follows black rook to b1. white rook must take black pawn promotes...that's what came to my mind first...am i missing something? still your solution is much quicker and better^^

  • how did that pawn turn into a queen?

  • @lamerthenlife wtf lol

  • I didn´t see anything else than Rook to B1 when I looked at this. Wery interesting senerio. Thanks.

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  • what's the problem with Rb1 ?? mate in three moves..

  • i dont understand why u post ur own games since u aint a GM?

  • so im watching your videos and im thinkging: damn! what is this guys rating? so now i ask, what is your rating?

  • I think that Qxa3 would also be winning because if the rook takes it would be mate

  • how do you play with yourself?

  • @juNk8assuLproduction Thats a little inappropriate, dont u think! :P

  • @bilraz

    well i mean what program he used , or whats the game called xD

  • Nicely done. Rook to B1 was my first choice as well. But mainly because I dont like to put the queen in jeopardy. I am actually more impressed that you were fearless enough to sacrifice the queen. Nice attack.

  • hey jrobi u r good i will watch all your video

  • I mentally played the same sequence as you did.

  • There's a tactics server? Anyone care to share this link?

  • queen takes on H3 is the best that i saw.

  • Black wins real easy

    Rb1+, NxB1 QE1 mate

    or just slight variation of that if white captures with Rook instead.

  • I had an idea, what if.. queen takes pawn on H3, rook will probably take pawn promotes, knight protects, queen (promoted) Takes Knight = Checkmate

  • thats impossible to not see Rb1 #3

  • 2:46 Ho doesn`t have to take, he also could play Nd1.

  • thats really smart!

  • What's the "tactics server" you mentioned?

  • 5 seconds and I saw it!

  • What about ... Qxa3 Rxa3 c1=Q+ Nd1 Qxd1+ Qe1 Qxe1# ? That would be a possible queen sac too.

  • @Fluffisnoterm That's what I thought also.

  • jrobi, what is your rating?

  • I believe the rook check would have been the best move! Check mate if the rook or knight captures rook!

  • Its strange: i looked at Rb1 first but didnt think that would lead to much so i decided the queen sac would be both beautiful and winning. Almost like an optical illusion. In the end it doesnt matter ofc, but perhaps i could learn something from this.

  • What is pgn?

  • @Sav24Star

    Portable Game Notation (PGN) is a computer-processable format for recording chess games.

  • Thank you sire.

  • Whites whole problem is the king is boxed in

  • also if white does not exchange the queen then black can check mate with the queen along the diagonal.

  • i'm thinking black queen cuts the white knight. this allows for the f file rook to get to f8, threatening the back rank black rook and threatening a passed pawn.

    too late for white i think here.

  • Where do you play chess? Im looking for a good place to improve.

  • Have you tried FICS, free internet chess server?

  • What about Qb4 then promote the f pawn check mate,

  • quite basic

  • RB1+ - NXB1 QE1#

  • in 4 seconds

  • To avoid that situation you can play easily 1... Qxa3

    He cant answer 2. RxQa3 because of 2 ... c1#

    The only possibility for white now is 2. Na2 Rb1 and white is gameover no opposite if he takes 3. RxRb1 or 3.Nc1

    2. Qa4 is impossible either because black takes the queen and gets the pawn to queen which is mate also.

    This I think would be the simplest line to win the game, perhaps I missed something, please tell me then. greetings

  • Hi,

    I did not read the other comments, I think someone perhaps saw the same. I will write some thoughts I had.

    The line you choosed could end with a rook instead of a queen if he plays: 1....QxNc3 2.QxQc3 Rb1 3.Qe1 .RxQe1 4. RxRe1 Rb8

    Now he would play 5. Kf1 it follows ...c1 and the pawn becomes a Queen which is beaten by 5...RxQc1

  • By the way, all the moves from the author are to win by force, meaning, keeping the pressure at max, moves like d5, rook to c7, queen takes a3 do not have that kind of pressure, only add advantage, but if you can win by force, right away, those moves waste precious time...

  • I think that the white rook taking the black bishop lost the game for white, maybe if instead he had move knight to a2 or e2 could have been better.

  • what about rook to c7? i cant see why that wouldnt work??

  • well, i think the main theme here is keep the pressure, if you give white one chance, maybe could get away, maybe counter. So, i think rook to c7 is not pressure enough, besides, the variations from the author are much better. it´s true, that with R to c7 white loses the knight, but the white queen can go back to try to reinforce the c1 square.

  • yeah,good thinking!

  • Another good move for black is Rc7, followed by QxN.

    Or to link up the rooks.

    d5 is interesting too.

  • 0:55: Black QxP,White RxQ, Black P=Q++

  • black queen takes pawn isn't as good as rb1+ since white can give its king an escape square with g3. however it's a devastating position for white regardless of queen takes pawn or rb1+. thank you very much for the awesome videos! keep it up!

  • what tactics server are you talking about?

  • i tought of taking the pawn with the queen. he cant take back with rook cause than its rook check, knight takes rook and than pawn takes knight promoting and check. than he must sacrafice his queen, and after shes gone its check mate. could it work, what would be best option for white after queen takes pawn?

  • could just take pawn with the queen and he can do nothing about it. if rook moves then queen captures and checkmate

  • the king was in check from the black rook ....i think

  • were do u play online chess at?

  • nice position, good thinking, thanks for posting

  • what's this guy rated?

  • great vids sir. thank you very much

  • I'm with bassieeee7 .... queen sac was not necessary.... simply, R B1 ch.

    If RxR then PxR NxR foll by Q E1 mate

    If NxR right away, then Q E1 mate

  • He already said that solution in the video.. and said that it was better than his.

  • Why not black queen takes pawn. white rook can't take queen bec it is defending against pawn promotion-check mate. I think this is more powerful unless I am missing something. cheers;)

  • I thought the same thing whilst pausing before the commencement..

    black queen takes pawn. white rook can't take queen bec it is defending against pawn promotion-check mate.

    interesting stuff keep it up

  • Rook to B1 was the first move that came to my mind, sweet game jrobi!

  • Thanks for checking it out bassieeee7!

  • cool checkmate,

  • smooth

  • convinient time to exchange queens. the rest follows: good move.

    the one minute wait is quite long. try to trim you talk and let the viewer decide if the game was good or not.

    just show the play with its basic commentary.

  • This is very impressive and helpful. Thank you jrobi!!

  • wow! so many options.

  • (Without having looked at the answer) Queen takes the knight, opponent retakes, Rook to the back rank giving check, opponent takes with rook, pawn promotion with check, queen has to be placed between, promoted pawn takes queen, checkmate.

  • Rook to B1 check was the move I saw :)

  • yeah i think u right

    1... Rb1+

    if 2. Kxb1 Qe1 mate

    if 2.Rxb1 cxb = Q+  3. kxb1 Qe1 mate

  • hello everybody its billy ray

  • what also could be an interesting move is, rook to C7. its not a fast check or something. its just a nice move imo :-).

  • easy mate would be Qh6,rh6 then promote the pawn

  • 3 move checkmate

    Qa3

    Ra3 captures queen

    c7c8+ pawn promotes to queen

    Nd1 blocks queen

    Qd1++ checkmate

    does anyone see a problem with that?

    the only other option would be if the a1 rook didnt capture the queen and there isnt much of a reason not to because that would give the black queen a huge positional advantage over white

  • First of all the queen sacrifice isn't necessary. If you check the queen with your rook, that forces either the night to capture it and you can checkmate with your queen because the night blocks the opponents rook from capturing your queen. Or I they capture your rook with their rook you advance the pawn to force check again and once they capture with knight you move your queen for mate.

  • Agreed - as pointed out in the vid it wasn't required. Thanks for checking out the vid!

  • yeah i get what you mean but in the vid he sacrificed his queen anyway and this would only take 3 moves. and u would get the queen back the next turn after you promote the pawn. i guess it doesnt make a difference because you would get a queen in there either way

  • The rook doesnt has 2 capture the Queen ...

  • yeah i know but like i said, if it doesnt capture the queen, the queen has great position now and white is down another pawn.

  • what exactly is the point of that queen sacrifice? I'm sorry; I'm not great at chess but I just can't see an advantage to losing your queen over a knight. What is it?

  • sacrifices are made to gain a better position. in this case, sacrificing the queen opened up a checkmate which is the ultimate goal of the game.

  • oh sorry! i didn't see. Thanks

  • Good... u impressed me

  • Chess strategy is so interesting... I don't know why...

    Cool stuff.

  • i think the best way is juct check by rook first, then if black eat with knight, just simply check mate with quen. But, if black eat the rook, just eat the rook with pawn, its already checkmate.

  • why do you say eat instead of capture?

  • @CUB3FR34K why not?

  • @CUB3FR34K

    maybe he's not of an origin where english is the first language

  • @CUB3FR34K You dozy bunch of people. I'm alluding to the chess situation occurring in real life.

  • @CUB3FR34K ummm..because pussys good?

  • If this man was in the army then he would eat his enemies on the battlefield.

  • SPARTA!!! =)

  • @BenNCM

    Does 'capture' enemies sound more logical to you?

  • lol When I looked at your position, I would have what you did. I didn't see the quicker mate either at first until you showed it to me.

  • but then again i ddnt really see pawn or the knight so i would have lost

  • what im thinking (i paused at 20 and thought in a couple of seconds sacrifice queens and move rook up to ez mate

  • So what is your USCF rating? I'd love to play you online.

  • My thought was the queen sack and my alternative I looked at later was the rook drop, but I completely missed the queen to a3move. It shows that you should look at all of your options!

  • interesting....

  • I don't know if this is a bad move, but it seems to me you can queen sack on a3 is garenteed win as well.

  • shows how important h3 is for white when rooks and queens are around in the endgame

  • yes it is the first simple thing that you would do before to prevent the back rank mate, but i think that also causes weaknesses so i have some different ideas i didnt check them but probably somebody thought of it but i created another version of the caro kann defence and its a very closed game if the decline the pawn and it works well usually i would like to share them later on my profile. soon.

  • hey i thot the queen sacrifice was the tougher move to figure out....Rg8 was quite obvious if u noted the relative pin on the knight

  • yeah i thought the queen sack was nuts the rook move was obvious. saying that this is a tactic video. it's harder when or playing.

  • could have done queen to a3 he captures with rook promote pawn for win

  • I saw the Move Rb4 that would have won the queen and I'm not sure what lines follow but you could get checkmate that way. It was a completely winning position anyway, i dont know anyone else see that move?

  • i want to play against you. how are we going to do this? i play for my school

  • i think more impressive would be queen sacrifice by taking the h pawn and threatening with a mate through promotion or rook move in the 1st.

    kill the queen to get the game!

  • the one you did at 2:48 was my idea to start with.

  • Yay!!!!!

    I actually found the checkmate.

    I was actually confused because I thought it was supposed to be 1-move checkmate.

  • My move is king pawn forward, threatening the queen, freeing up an attack on the knight. Probably not as good as your option which perpetually checks until the last move, and far less elegant. It's just what I initially saw as best move.

  • That's the first time i was able to spot it without giving up haha. It was a relatively simple one, it was obvious that pawn was going to play a central role, and the rook was just begging for some action. Great fun, look forward to future iterations!

  • great vids.. thanks, they are really interesting and didactic

  • jrobi i need to have a brain like yours

  • great video, but for some reason when i play blitz i can beat players that average 2150++, but in long games i dont have the same level, may be your videos will help me i think they are really good

  • Which tactics server did you use mate?

    Great vid keep it up :)

  • I recommend practicing tactics over the board now - I find better long-term results that way.

  • its always easier to see the moves when you're not in the game.

  • Sometimes that's definitely the case. I have found the more I practice tactics the better I am at seeing the possibilities in my live games. Thanks for checking out the vid!

  • ya I would have played qxn too if someone hadn't told me to look for mate afterwhich obviously rb1 was the only feasible move to look at. As as 1700+ player like myself I forget often times to look for mate instead of just material :)

  • Great comment - I think that's definitely something that needs to be worked on a lot. Material can sometimes be so tempting that it excludes other possibilities in the heat of the moment.

  • This guy is smart, and it is a fact that i am not that good at playing chess. but it took ne about 1 minute max to get the easy mate.

    LOL!

    But this is a great vid. Thanks

  • Thanks for checking it out themainmanishere!

  • fanastic! i am crap at chess...does anyone know a good place to play it on the net (for free)?

  • Thanks Jethro - you can try freechess(dot)org and get a graphical interface for it. I have a video on how to get setup with it.

  • 5/5 .. speechless (AWESOME!!!!!)

  • Thanks MalevlaMuerte!

  • got it

    --but its easier to play in these videos since you know that something is about to happen, im not sure if i would have seen that in a game

  • Thanks! I have found that more tactics practice helps see possibilities on the board. Sometimes I get wrapped up into trying to find tactics, but other than losing some time it's not a bad habit I guess. =)

  • yes u r right .. traps are very dangerous if they failed

    u have to try some traps in games to be brave to make such dangerous traps

  • move of genius

  • Thanks for checking out the vid!

  • Hey, I actually got this one :D!

  • Awesome! Thanks for checking out the vid!

  • ive only just started playing chess and ive looked at a lot of you're vids these tactics are awsome!! thank you!!!!!!!! 5 stars!!

  • Thanks Richard - I appreciate the comment!

  • Wow, that's one rad position. As soon as I saw it I was blasted by wins. Rb1+, Qxa3, Qxc3, AAAGH! :) It isn't so common to find a position with so many ways to win!

  • Thanks for checking it out!

  • cool

  • Thanks nategrier2003!

  • thnx u very much !

  • Thanks for checking out the vid Knight!

  • Hey jrobi, you could have played Qxh6, that wayif he plays Rxh6 you playf8=Q and win. Or if he then moves Rf8 you play Qxf8 and win. Not really that important but its just something I saw. Keep up the great videos!

  • I will definitely check this out in the viewer mkilcooley - thanks for checking out the vid!

  • I looked at Qxa3 as well but don't think it forces mate as white can play Rf1. Sure the pawn can promote next move but then white can play a pawn move arond king to give a flight square. White will be down alot of material but the way you showed its much quicker, three moves max. Nice vid!

  • Thanks for that vid.

    Is there any chance of you posting a full game? I know they might be pretty long, but I'm sure all of us would like to see how you do it :)

  • Thanks for checking out the vid Edam! I post full game videos fairly regularly (you can access them from my channel) and for the tactics videos I post a PGN on my site for the video. Thanks for the feedback!

  • how long did you play chess before the tactical strategizing manifested itself?i am a beginner and i usually just play off of my opponets moves.....is this proactive?correct?thank you for posting god bless

  • Thanks for the comment and checking out the video Q25R! I would say as soon as I started doing tactics OTB (on a real board) mixed with some online tactics practice that opportunities began to present themselves based on my opponents play. Currently I am working on analyzing the position during live matches more closely - and I think that is having a very similar effect in terms of tactics and trying to work towards making tactics take shape.

  • Great video with good explanation. Please keep these coming.

  • Thanks for checking out the vid Phillip!

  • awesome.

  • Thanks solidkingcobra!

  • that was cool. i would have never seen that...

  • Thanks for checking out the vid RG350D!

  • i mean c8 or c7 to c8 queening lol

  • I will check this out in my viewer CJones - thanks for checking out the vid!

  • you could also go Qxa3 Rxa3, c7 c8, and its mating in all variations even if the rook doesnt take a3

  • Nice but instead of going rg8 couldn't you just promote pawn to queen, then qd1 check?

    Anyways thanks for the great vid!

  • Thanks for checking out the vid Caleb! I don't think that would work with the enemy rook there unfortunately.

  • I saw ...Qxa2 but this allows white to make a crucial move on his kingside pawn to prevent the back rank mate. Something like

    ... Qxa2

    g3 QxRa1+

    Kg2 c1Q and so on

    Your variation is better. Thanks for sharing.

  • Thanks for the comment jesstern!

  • How did that pawn get to f7 again?

  • Thanks for checking out the video Irvpat! You can download the entire match PGN from my blog for this video.

  • Fantastic! Thanks for sharing and please keep posting.

  • Thanks Phillip!

  • that was great love your videos

  • Thanks incomprensible01!

  • this is great stuff you are a real good teacher of chess