@BenelB I don't think there is any thought on this subject required. They WERE/ARE absolute crap. Kevin J Anderson was involved. What else do you need to KNOW they're crap?
@Stigmatainmypants couldnt agree more, did you read that bs story about brian finding his dads old floppy disks in an old bank deposit box and writing the series based on frank herberts notes? that IMHO was the biggest piece of crap in the book, they just made up their own stories the only thing it had to do with dune were the names of some of the ppl/places and organisations, really wish we could bring back a ghola, awaken his memories and get him to bitchslap brian and kevin for wot they did
@stigmatainmypants btw, the story i mentioned was in the forward or intro or something to the hunters of dune or one of the other monstrosities they produced, frank probably rolled around in his grave when they came out (hell im not surprised if he woke as a zombie and is still awake banging on his coffin trying to get out
@BenelB I read the dune prequels and they were awful. KJ Anderson is a jobbing author who turns out bucket loads of licensed crap very quickly. Why do they publish him? He is appalling .
@SlappyTheElf completely agree man, also dont think brian herbert is doin much, probably just has his name on the cover for some BS attempt at authenticity, as if he knows what his dad was planning (the books are proof that they have no damn clue),
@SlappyTheElf I have never read those books and I agree on a basic level why they aren't good, but I was just wondering why exactly they aren't good? The specific reasons I mean.
@AxelXGabriel They are written in a manner that is like a quickly written movie novelization. When KJA runs out of imagination he resorts to sheer violence and cruelty. Lots of it seems just plain silly or naff, the carefully written verbal sparring is absent. Characters are one dimensional. Add a huge layer of cheese to this and you have a most revolting barely readable cocktail.
The starwars movies are cartoonish compared to the story of the dune books. THE STARWARS MOVIES ARE LAME, THEY SUCK AND THEY ARE THE MOST OVER RATED MOVIES OF ALL TIME. The reason I compare the two other than the obvious, is that Frank Herbert and George Lucas were both inspired by Joseph Campbell and his writings of the hero in mythology. I find Herberts world complex, grey and thought provocating, and George's world too easy to understand and black and white. A simple story for simple minds.
What's really interesting about Leto's Golden Path, is that it's not about peace and security, it's not some fairy tale eden. It means one thing and one thing only, SURVIVAL OF HUMANKIND. Leto basically took all of the eggs out of one basket and scattered them across the universe, so our collective fate would never again be just that. Frank never takes the brutality out of life, he leaves it there for our descendants to deal with.
@AxelXGabriel Deserve to exist? Does the universe not deserve to exist either? Because we all know that the world is a brutal place without us in it. In the words of Joseph Campbell "our conscious views of what life ought to be seldom correspond to what life really is. Generally we refuse to admit within ourselves or within our friends the fullness of that pushing self protective malodorous, carnivorous, lecherous fever which is the very nature of the organic cell.
@AxelXGabriel Rather we tend to perfume, white wash and reinterpret, meanwhile imagining that all the flies in the ointment, the hairs in the soup are the faults of some unpleasant someone else, when it sudenly dawns on us or is forced to our atention that everything we think or do is necesarily tainted with the odor of the flesh there is a moment of revulsion. Life the acts of life the organs of life woman as the great symbol of life become intolerable to the pure soul.
Anyone who likes this intro is an asshole... I take that back, anyone who likes this intro is just ignorant to the beauty of the structure of frank herberts masterpiece. I've read all 6 books over and over again; once ever few years. I love the way Frank writes, the way he gets into peoples heads and takes the most mundane aspects of the story....(mother superior Odrade riding in a bus towards one of the satelite cities on chapterhouse) and Frank makes that fascinating!
I think jurisdiction might not be the correct word.... CHOAM is basically a corporation with control of the trade of all products in the old empire. But this control is tempered by the guilds monopoly on space travel. The Bene Gesseret.... nobody controls them. As far as the rest of them goes.... I'm not sure what you mean by having "Jurisdiction over"... does Walmart have jurisdiction over me?
@Archeology101, I couldn't agree with you more. Reading his sons stories is like going from some divine, magnificent story telling to reading a comic book.. the interplay between characters is facile. I really wanted to read all the butlerian jihad books and the three books that happen after chapter house but I just couldn't finish them. I was amazed and fascinated that Frank intended to bring the thinking machines back into the story. it's a tragic loss to not have frank finish the story.
and there are more than two schools of human development. the suk schools, sword masters of ginaz, the bene tleilax, the mentats... those are just the ones off the top of my head. What a fricking joke this video is. Did the person that created it even read the books?
Why create a prologue to such a great story when they change the plot! WTF?! It says "the orange spice gas gives the guild navigators the power to fold space" Bullshit! holtzman generators fold space and the spice just gives the navigators a limited form of precience to be able to see a safe path through foldspace. who is the asshole who wrote this? They also make refrences to the guild being a purely mathematical orginization? again, where in any of the original 6 masterpieces does it say this?
Herbert's son just cashed in on his father's work. Frank's son can't write worth a snot. The books he wrote are so horrible its painful to see how he destroys his father's legacy. There is only ONE scene in the son's books that is 100% Frank Herbert: The conclusion of the last Dune book ends with ghola paul and ghola chani where paul tells her that he has loved her for five thousand years ... THAT is Frank herbert and in no way did his son ever..ever... reach such a level of writing quality.
@Gargantou Actually the 3 House books and the Paul of Dune are awesome. Butlerian jihad books are not as good but still a decent read. I just appreciate the fact that there is more Dune to read.
@cybrotius actually the Spice stopped in 1986 originally with Frank Herberts death after the 6th book and his wife Beverly died. His son Brian Herbert left the series for 10 years (after he did Dreamer of Dune and autobiography of Frank Herbert) and ended up resuming it with Kevin J Anderson ... They did the Prelude to Dune books, Legend of Dune books the final part of the dune series which was over two books. The reason why is he found info that his father left in a safe deposit box.
@cybrotius there are also many others I have all of them in Audiobook and Paperback. Quite a read and you need to do it much like Frank Herberts writing several times over to get everything.
The stories as you know are
Dune, Dune Messiah, Children of Dune, God Emperor of Dune, Heretics of Dune & Chapterhouse Dune. 1 - 6 Frank Herbert.
Last two are Hunters of Dune and Sandworms of Dune. 7 + 8 Brian Herbert and Kevin J Anderson.
Prelude of Dune which takes place when Leto Atreides was young and covers Pauls Birth
is split into 3. House Harkonnen, House Atreides and House Corrino.
Legends of Dune which takes place slightly prior and through the butlerian jyhad to the guilds beginning and the revelation of melanges properties is thousands of years earlier.
3 Books Butlerian Jyhad, Machine Crusade and Battle of Corrin.
There are also. Paul of Dune and Winds of Dune (2 parts)
Quite possibly the most convoluted prologue narration ever. I think he mentioned at least three times that Duke Leto Atreides rules on Calladan and mentioned Shaddam's name at least five or six times. Of course this is Dune, so...
And the Butlerian Jihad which wiped the Thinking machines out, was actually fourght across multiple worlds using pre-space folding travel tech (ie Conventional engines)
How many things did they get wrong, hmm let me see, Guild Navigators do not fold space, the Holtzman Engines folds the space the navigators use their prescience to guide ships through fold space. There are actually three schools of mental development The Bene Gesserit Sisterhood, The Mentat School producing Human Computers, and the Spacing Guild created by Aurelius Venport from technology created by Norma Cenva (holtzman got all the credit and Norma didn't care.)
@ranger240987 You're joking right? Do you really think that someone who makes a movie in 1984 can jump forward 15 years to 1999 and read Brian's Powindah writings to learn of the history of the Spacing Guild?
the magic weapons of the fremen in the movie were pretty funny too. wish they had left in the scene where Feyd was in the arena. They turned him into a cartoon character.
I like the prologue as if you had not read the book, it filled in some of the history.
Precious substance, very important for transportation, which is only to be found in the desert, inhabited by a people which does await some Messiah figure? I sometimes wonder how much the fancy Dune tale is a parable on the modern world! The spice is the oil, the Spacing Guild could be compared to the multinational Oil Corporations, the empire to the US of A (recently they make a fuss about being an empire) and even the Baron Harkonnen could resemble a well-known banking baron.
@FireEyedMaidOfWar The people of nearly any real age could find comparisons to the universe of Dune. That's how Herbert intended it. He set the saga in the very far future, but if you notice, the book and movie focus relatively little on advancements in technology and evolution except where something must be known for the plot. The main focus is on the power struggle of the aristocracy. It shows that no matter how far humans advance, some things about us will likely never change.
@dewfall56: In a way yes, but still the parallels to the oil and its role and the desert location where it is to be found and of the religion predominant there is a little too big for me to label the whole Dune fuss just as a parable on human behaviour; not to mention the greedy oil corporations and their role as virtual rulers, while the political governments are reduced to their puppets; but I can’t figure out the counterparts of the Emperors and the two feuding houses, what eludes me.
I whould kill all of the fremens and with an infinite pleasure i would cut their necks slash their heads smash their bodies to bits rape their women and then use them as whores for the every harkonnen, and i whould make their children watching it. and very especially ooooh i'd destroy the whole atreides with unstoppable cruelty that never ever happened before!
Thank the movie Dune for the video game Star Craft. both have cult status but Star Craft has the Money and people are getting paid big money to play that game
@cqtaylor I like the new prologue but, yeah another narrator would have been cool. This guy slurs his words and stumbles over sentences. It's like they grabbed a gaffer, gave him some stuff to read and let him go wild.
None of the Harkonnens in the book had goofy orange hair like in this movie. Feyd-Rautha was muscle-bound and his hair was in dark ringlets. And the Baron was completely bald with spider-black eyes. Still a decent movie.
@jone4s LOL I'm an artist myself and I only can say that the art is actually nice. I challenge you to try to make a prologue with better images than these hand made pieces... with no digital tools.
although this intro makes sense to history and current events. If eugenics wins out over the population, and world war destroys us we could live that kind of future.
i love this!!! Dune is my FAVORITE MOVIE/BOOK omg! i think this prolouge explains more than the one in the original film, though, because there was alot left unexplained if you haddn't read the book. long live Muad'Dib!!!!
this is SHIT. I don't care if it is Herbert's voice. Everyone forgives Lynch because the project was taken off his hands. I'm glad it was, I'm glad it was only half done. Half a turd is better than a whole turd. The man is supposed to be inspired, the only way he can think to set the scene is with a seven minute long opening narration? Lazy lazy lazy stupid lazy
Despite the fact that I am a Star Wars freak, DUNE is deep and for serious mind thinkers. Talks about Ecology, Politics, Religion, War. Basically, I saw John's Apocalypse on the specific planet with the coming messiah, Muad'dib and despite the fact it deals with the future of Humankind in deep space, I see the simple future of our planet on DUNE.
@AThousandYoung it is a 3rd stage guild navigator.... he was once human but his body has gone through a metamorphosis over several thousand years from total saturation in the spice
Lynch's 1984 adaptation is such a funny animal, for every two things it gets absolutely right it gets a third so ridiculously wrong it leaves you scratching your head in astonishment. Yet at least it often captures the scale, stark brutality and grandiosity of Herbert's vision which cannot be said of the scifi channel's adaptation.
@AmazingL4rry Could not have said it better myself. But it's David Lynch's version, and I'm very glad it was made. He had his version, I have my version, and you have your version. We all make up details and discard others that we don't like to consider in our own personal versions that we create. In my own version, the laser-shield interaction doesn't exist, because people walking around everyday with potential nuclear bombs strapped to their waist would quickly be made illegal everywhere.
@Chairmangoodchild It worked in Dune society because the great houses were honor-bound by conduct, and ther other houses would come down hard on the rogue house. If Dune story had taken place in our modern society you'd have kamakaze and suicide bombers running around deliberately shooting themselves in the shield with their lasguns.
Nah if one was to become widely outlawed outright it would still end up being the lasgun rather than the shield, simply because it would be harder to conceal one for one thing and more importantly you must remember that all these noblemen and oligarchs can only maintain the caste system that keeps them rich and powerful if they keep the image of civility and at least pretend to be against mass murder. Use a lasgun and you seriously risk defying the convention.
@AmazingL4rry Given the Holtzman shield's effect when a high frequency laser beam interacts with it's field (thermonuclear explosion) and how wide-spread Holtzman shields were, no wonder people never used laser weapons. :P
I think this is the prologue for the "Extended Edition", which was released on DVD in 2006. But I can't find anywhere where the name of the new narrator is, IMDB doesn't have it, nor does the Amazon listing. Does anyone have the DVD? What do the credits say about the narrator?
David Lynch's "Dune" differs from the book. That's why many people criticize it but I don't agree. The whole movie was very well done, visual effects were great for that time and the acting was brilliant. Kyle MacLachlan and Francesca Annis were stunning
one thing alot of people miss when they state its the year 10,191 is that its not AD.... its AG, meaning "after guild" or the formation of the spacing guild. in reality Dune takes place around the year 20,000 AD by our calendar
@Doug19752533 I have read the original novel and understand the Guild has its own calendar system, but what about the year 6041 mentioned by the narrator--is that A. D.?
@LARiots1992 thats a good question. if i remember right, i think its AD, and the great Jihad was around 10,000 AD. the events of the fall of the humans, the rise of the machines and the great revolt all didnt happen in a matter of decades but slowly over mellenia. then there was the 'scattering' - humanity spreading out over the known universe, since Earth had now become uninhabitable from the wars. the events of Dune then are 10,000 after the revolt, 20,000 yrs total from now.
@LARiots1992 yes its suppose to be AD. around the year 10,000 AD was the great jihad, and the guild rose, starting a new calander. the year 10,191 refers to AG, after guild. soo the events of Dune are around the year 20,000 AD
@ChicaWolverina yes. after the great jihad against the machines, humanity abandoned Earth, since it had become uninhabitable, and spread out through the universe in what became known as "the scattering"
@rudyhamzah i disagree...Star Wars is like Elementary School-an awesome time, only there to get you ready for more...Star trek is High School through college...Dune is like that crazy-ass graduate course that melts your brain studying for it, but gets you a few dollars more in a job interview...=)
Those black armors in the first drawings look bloody awesome. Would have looked a lot better on for example the Sardaukars than the weird chemical worker outfits.
Perhaps the movie chronology is different from the book chronology. The viewer watching this prologue with no previous knowledge of the Dune books would assume that both dates 6,041 and 10,192 are A.D. That is 4,030 years between us and the universe being ruled by thinking machines and 4,150 years between that and the setting of the movie. That is enough time for all these institutions to develop, Christ 4,000 years is twice the amount of time between Christ and us, 8,181 years in the future.
I have a love-hate relationship with this movie, the love part comes from the outstanding score, visuals and decent effects for it's time to good acting except a few like Sting who is just wooden. I still think this is Lynch's weakest movie as he wasn't meant for big budget hollywood blockbusters and was outside his comfort zone, i still think the novel is superior.
This is by far the worst film of Lynch's film career! He's a good director but a very very bad choice for a Dune movie when it should have been Alejandro Jorodowsky or Ridley Scott who are true fans of the book unlike Lynch who was just a gun-for-hire. Face it folks, Lynch was not meant for Sci-fi movies or expensive hollywood blockbusters! he went outside his comfort zone and failed miserably, thank god he disowned this disaster and went back to where he belongs: Independent cinema
@copacialex Space marines are a direct rip-off of the Sardaukar . The Dark Angels space marines home planet is called caliban and House Atreides home planet is called calidan - coincidence, I think not!
@iluvgoldfrapp True, true. But the fine bottle of wine has never been drunk correctly and thus stays in a cool secluded spot never to be opened again. Star Wars however, the proplem with Star Wars was New Star Wars, thus making Classic Star Wars that much better.
@helloolleh555 yes. they do. you're just too much of a philistine to see it. that, or you're going to force star wars into the same catagory just as you can bash on it.
@helloolleh555 similarities means nothing. they are in two seperate genres. just because they both use space and ships and blah blah blah means nothing. the themes are fundementally different. again, you're just clumping both into one just to better suit your personal opinion.
@jros83 Yeah, there are many more similarities than just space and ships. I would explain it all to you but I feel it would be a waste of time as you are delusional and refuse to see any other point than yours...
The narrator is NOT Frank Herbert! It's done by a professional voice actor; go listen to narration of the full Mormon animation short that was briefly featured in Bill Mahr's Religulous.
I have this on old vhs , the one talking is frank herbert himself
enderrose 1 week ago
Zen-Sunni Wanderer
Widowshijo 3 weeks ago
I like that this actually explains what the Butlerian Jihad was, which was barely mentioned in the theatrical cut.
falariem 3 weeks ago
Any and all dune movies and mini series are shit. If you want to know what Dune is, read the books. The ORIGINAL books.
KingRangerLive 3 weeks ago
To this day, no one is able to tell me the name of the guy doing the narration. He sounds just like the guy that did a video about Mormons.
BBBoggs 3 weeks ago
anyone else think that the new books were/are a load of crap?
BenelB 1 month ago
@BenelB I don't think there is any thought on this subject required. They WERE/ARE absolute crap. Kevin J Anderson was involved. What else do you need to KNOW they're crap?
Stigmatainmypants 1 month ago
@Stigmatainmypants couldnt agree more, did you read that bs story about brian finding his dads old floppy disks in an old bank deposit box and writing the series based on frank herberts notes? that IMHO was the biggest piece of crap in the book, they just made up their own stories the only thing it had to do with dune were the names of some of the ppl/places and organisations, really wish we could bring back a ghola, awaken his memories and get him to bitchslap brian and kevin for wot they did
BenelB 1 month ago
@stigmatainmypants btw, the story i mentioned was in the forward or intro or something to the hunters of dune or one of the other monstrosities they produced, frank probably rolled around in his grave when they came out (hell im not surprised if he woke as a zombie and is still awake banging on his coffin trying to get out
BenelB 1 month ago
@BenelB I read the dune prequels and they were awful. KJ Anderson is a jobbing author who turns out bucket loads of licensed crap very quickly. Why do they publish him? He is appalling .
SlappyTheElf 4 weeks ago
@SlappyTheElf completely agree man, also dont think brian herbert is doin much, probably just has his name on the cover for some BS attempt at authenticity, as if he knows what his dad was planning (the books are proof that they have no damn clue),
BenelB 4 weeks ago
@SlappyTheElf I have never read those books and I agree on a basic level why they aren't good, but I was just wondering why exactly they aren't good? The specific reasons I mean.
AxelXGabriel 4 weeks ago
@AxelXGabriel They are written in a manner that is like a quickly written movie novelization. When KJA runs out of imagination he resorts to sheer violence and cruelty. Lots of it seems just plain silly or naff, the carefully written verbal sparring is absent. Characters are one dimensional. Add a huge layer of cheese to this and you have a most revolting barely readable cocktail.
SlappyTheElf 2 weeks ago
i wish they would make the pandora trilogy into some movies...then after they could do destination void as a prequal
cyclo1224 1 month ago
The starwars movies are cartoonish compared to the story of the dune books. THE STARWARS MOVIES ARE LAME, THEY SUCK AND THEY ARE THE MOST OVER RATED MOVIES OF ALL TIME. The reason I compare the two other than the obvious, is that Frank Herbert and George Lucas were both inspired by Joseph Campbell and his writings of the hero in mythology. I find Herberts world complex, grey and thought provocating, and George's world too easy to understand and black and white. A simple story for simple minds.
keithpankow 1 month ago
What's really interesting about Leto's Golden Path, is that it's not about peace and security, it's not some fairy tale eden. It means one thing and one thing only, SURVIVAL OF HUMANKIND. Leto basically took all of the eggs out of one basket and scattered them across the universe, so our collective fate would never again be just that. Frank never takes the brutality out of life, he leaves it there for our descendants to deal with.
keithpankow 1 month ago
@keithpankow With how brutal Mankind is in the Dune books, it makes me wonder if they even deserve to survive.
AxelXGabriel 4 weeks ago
@AxelXGabriel Deserve to exist? Does the universe not deserve to exist either? Because we all know that the world is a brutal place without us in it. In the words of Joseph Campbell "our conscious views of what life ought to be seldom correspond to what life really is. Generally we refuse to admit within ourselves or within our friends the fullness of that pushing self protective malodorous, carnivorous, lecherous fever which is the very nature of the organic cell.
keithpankow 4 weeks ago
@AxelXGabriel Rather we tend to perfume, white wash and reinterpret, meanwhile imagining that all the flies in the ointment, the hairs in the soup are the faults of some unpleasant someone else, when it sudenly dawns on us or is forced to our atention that everything we think or do is necesarily tainted with the odor of the flesh there is a moment of revulsion. Life the acts of life the organs of life woman as the great symbol of life become intolerable to the pure soul.
keithpankow 4 weeks ago
@keithpankow No offense dude, but can you tone down the metaphors? You lost me half way through the first comment.
AxelXGabriel 4 weeks ago
Anyone who likes this intro is an asshole... I take that back, anyone who likes this intro is just ignorant to the beauty of the structure of frank herberts masterpiece. I've read all 6 books over and over again; once ever few years. I love the way Frank writes, the way he gets into peoples heads and takes the most mundane aspects of the story....(mother superior Odrade riding in a bus towards one of the satelite cities on chapterhouse) and Frank makes that fascinating!
keithpankow 1 month ago
I think jurisdiction might not be the correct word.... CHOAM is basically a corporation with control of the trade of all products in the old empire. But this control is tempered by the guilds monopoly on space travel. The Bene Gesseret.... nobody controls them. As far as the rest of them goes.... I'm not sure what you mean by having "Jurisdiction over"... does Walmart have jurisdiction over me?
keithpankow 1 month ago
@TheChaosjet. I can't answer that question. I don't know off hand.
keithpankow 1 month ago
@Archeology101, I couldn't agree with you more. Reading his sons stories is like going from some divine, magnificent story telling to reading a comic book.. the interplay between characters is facile. I really wanted to read all the butlerian jihad books and the three books that happen after chapter house but I just couldn't finish them. I was amazed and fascinated that Frank intended to bring the thinking machines back into the story. it's a tragic loss to not have frank finish the story.
keithpankow 1 month ago
and there are more than two schools of human development. the suk schools, sword masters of ginaz, the bene tleilax, the mentats... those are just the ones off the top of my head. What a fricking joke this video is. Did the person that created it even read the books?
keithpankow 1 month ago
@keithpankow the suk schools, sword masters of ginaz, the bene tleilax, the mentats...Did the CHOAM have jurisdiction over these
TheChaosjet 1 month ago
Why create a prologue to such a great story when they change the plot! WTF?! It says "the orange spice gas gives the guild navigators the power to fold space" Bullshit! holtzman generators fold space and the spice just gives the navigators a limited form of precience to be able to see a safe path through foldspace. who is the asshole who wrote this? They also make refrences to the guild being a purely mathematical orginization? again, where in any of the original 6 masterpieces does it say this?
keithpankow 1 month ago
I'd love to find out about all those paintings used in this. Who made them?
nardpuncher 1 month ago
Also... the voice on this prologue is Frank Herbert himself. FYI
Archeology101 1 month ago
@Archeology101 It is not Frank Herbert narrating this
metronomic1 1 month ago
@metronomic1 I've heard interviews with him and don't hear the resemblance.
keithpankow 1 month ago
@keithpankow Exactly, it's been a rumor forever that it is him and it isnt.
metronomic1 1 month ago
Herbert's son just cashed in on his father's work. Frank's son can't write worth a snot. The books he wrote are so horrible its painful to see how he destroys his father's legacy. There is only ONE scene in the son's books that is 100% Frank Herbert: The conclusion of the last Dune book ends with ghola paul and ghola chani where paul tells her that he has loved her for five thousand years ... THAT is Frank herbert and in no way did his son ever..ever... reach such a level of writing quality.
Archeology101 1 month ago
They are really into knives
Htown20XX 1 month ago
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Gargantou 2 months ago
@Gargantou Actually the 3 House books and the Paul of Dune are awesome. Butlerian jihad books are not as good but still a decent read. I just appreciate the fact that there is more Dune to read.
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Gargantou 2 months ago
The spice stopped flowing in 1984. That's over 20 years ago. What's up with that? Spice must not be that important.
cybrotius 2 months ago
@cybrotius actually the Spice stopped in 1986 originally with Frank Herberts death after the 6th book and his wife Beverly died. His son Brian Herbert left the series for 10 years (after he did Dreamer of Dune and autobiography of Frank Herbert) and ended up resuming it with Kevin J Anderson ... They did the Prelude to Dune books, Legend of Dune books the final part of the dune series which was over two books. The reason why is he found info that his father left in a safe deposit box.
horusrage 2 months ago
@cybrotius there are also many others I have all of them in Audiobook and Paperback. Quite a read and you need to do it much like Frank Herberts writing several times over to get everything.
The stories as you know are
Dune, Dune Messiah, Children of Dune, God Emperor of Dune, Heretics of Dune & Chapterhouse Dune. 1 - 6 Frank Herbert.
Last two are Hunters of Dune and Sandworms of Dune. 7 + 8 Brian Herbert and Kevin J Anderson.
horusrage 2 months ago
@cybrotius
Prelude of Dune which takes place when Leto Atreides was young and covers Pauls Birth
is split into 3. House Harkonnen, House Atreides and House Corrino.
Legends of Dune which takes place slightly prior and through the butlerian jyhad to the guilds beginning and the revelation of melanges properties is thousands of years earlier.
3 Books Butlerian Jyhad, Machine Crusade and Battle of Corrin.
There are also. Paul of Dune and Winds of Dune (2 parts)
horusrage 2 months ago
@horusrage and they all suck.
keithpankow 1 month ago
Cool intro for film but a very long .
VENATORSHIP 2 months ago
All this hapened before and will happen again.
FuckinLittleDreamer 2 months ago
If This Book Never Existed, James Cameron's Avatar Would've Never Seen The Day. Please Have Respect For The Original Story.
TheMutantX109 3 months ago
Quite possibly the most convoluted prologue narration ever. I think he mentioned at least three times that Duke Leto Atreides rules on Calladan and mentioned Shaddam's name at least five or six times. Of course this is Dune, so...
Alam0052 3 months ago
only 2 mental training schools? what about the mentats! cobblers!
chammerton 3 months ago
what the hell is Kaitan? It's Kaitain!
Interfect727 3 months ago 5
mind numbingly bad...this whole movie made me want to cry.
MissMarchHare 4 months ago
And the Butlerian Jihad which wiped the Thinking machines out, was actually fourght across multiple worlds using pre-space folding travel tech (ie Conventional engines)
ranger240987 4 months ago 6
How many things did they get wrong, hmm let me see, Guild Navigators do not fold space, the Holtzman Engines folds the space the navigators use their prescience to guide ships through fold space. There are actually three schools of mental development The Bene Gesserit Sisterhood, The Mentat School producing Human Computers, and the Spacing Guild created by Aurelius Venport from technology created by Norma Cenva (holtzman got all the credit and Norma didn't care.)
ranger240987 4 months ago
@ranger240987 You're joking right? Do you really think that someone who makes a movie in 1984 can jump forward 15 years to 1999 and read Brian's Powindah writings to learn of the history of the Spacing Guild?
vebhe 4 months ago
@ranger240987 And the Suk School, The Ginaz swordmasters school, The Bene Tleilax, im sure there are more
barracudau 4 months ago in playlist YouTube Mix for Dune
the magic weapons of the fremen in the movie were pretty funny too. wish they had left in the scene where Feyd was in the arena. They turned him into a cartoon character.
I like the prologue as if you had not read the book, it filled in some of the history.
prplhze2000 4 months ago
selected breeding program; not genetically modified...
jamesa4050 5 months ago
this would be a terrible way to begin any film. I've read all the Dune books (the real ones) and find this exposition dull as hell
farneyblakeley 5 months ago
Precious substance, very important for transportation, which is only to be found in the desert, inhabited by a people which does await some Messiah figure? I sometimes wonder how much the fancy Dune tale is a parable on the modern world! The spice is the oil, the Spacing Guild could be compared to the multinational Oil Corporations, the empire to the US of A (recently they make a fuss about being an empire) and even the Baron Harkonnen could resemble a well-known banking baron.
FireEyedMaidOfWar 5 months ago
@FireEyedMaidOfWar The people of nearly any real age could find comparisons to the universe of Dune. That's how Herbert intended it. He set the saga in the very far future, but if you notice, the book and movie focus relatively little on advancements in technology and evolution except where something must be known for the plot. The main focus is on the power struggle of the aristocracy. It shows that no matter how far humans advance, some things about us will likely never change.
dewfall56 5 months ago 2
@dewfall56: In a way yes, but still the parallels to the oil and its role and the desert location where it is to be found and of the religion predominant there is a little too big for me to label the whole Dune fuss just as a parable on human behaviour; not to mention the greedy oil corporations and their role as virtual rulers, while the political governments are reduced to their puppets; but I can’t figure out the counterparts of the Emperors and the two feuding houses, what eludes me.
FireEyedMaidOfWar 5 months ago
@dewfall56 I agree!
xxTeutonicKnightxx 3 months ago
I whould kill all of the fremens and with an infinite pleasure i would cut their necks slash their heads smash their bodies to bits rape their women and then use them as whores for the every harkonnen, and i whould make their children watching it. and very especially ooooh i'd destroy the whole atreides with unstoppable cruelty that never ever happened before!
FluffyDowny 6 months ago
@FluffyDowny I absolutely believe you are capable of that. Especially after seeing how you massacred grammar so horrifically.
LaLongeCarbine 5 months ago
@LaLongeCarbine but i am the animal after all, as Feid was.
FluffyDowny 5 months ago
@FluffyDowny Feyd
Caesarslegion1 5 months ago
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Thank the movie Dune for the video game Star Craft. both have cult status but Star Craft has the Money and people are getting paid big money to play that game
Tonystarkes888 6 months ago
Thank June for Star Craft
Tonystarkes888 6 months ago
@Tonystarkes888 whats the 6th month of the year got to do with an rts game
Defgunt 6 months ago
@Defgunt opps i meant thank Dune for Starcraft. my bad.
Tonystarkes888 6 months ago
The narrator sounds like a cowboy explaining Dune. See what happens when ya get too accustomed to British accents in Sci-Fi.
cqtaylor 6 months ago
@cqtaylor I like the new prologue but, yeah another narrator would have been cool. This guy slurs his words and stumbles over sentences. It's like they grabbed a gaffer, gave him some stuff to read and let him go wild.
spacecowboy5000 6 months ago
20,000 years afterwards, maybe we could have time travel technology, or even spaceship hyperdrive technology? Could that be possible?
Sweetmervs 6 months ago in playlist Dune 1984
None of the Harkonnens in the book had goofy orange hair like in this movie. Feyd-Rautha was muscle-bound and his hair was in dark ringlets. And the Baron was completely bald with spider-black eyes. Still a decent movie.
carrigallen98 6 months ago
terrible intro... with pictures like from kindergarden... there is a fan edit version out there.. its called Dune - the third stage edition...
this should be better, with even more deleted scenes included... and without this terrible intro...
jone4s 7 months ago
@jone4s Develop an imagination
miack84 6 months ago
@jone4s LOL I'm an artist myself and I only can say that the art is actually nice. I challenge you to try to make a prologue with better images than these hand made pieces... with no digital tools.
KronnangDunn 6 months ago
@KronnangDunn AMEN! XD
although this intro makes sense to history and current events. If eugenics wins out over the population, and world war destroys us we could live that kind of future.
D:
Th3ba1r0n 6 months ago
i love this!!! Dune is my FAVORITE MOVIE/BOOK omg! i think this prolouge explains more than the one in the original film, though, because there was alot left unexplained if you haddn't read the book. long live Muad'Dib!!!!
LucySkyDiamonds666 7 months ago
this is SHIT. I don't care if it is Herbert's voice. Everyone forgives Lynch because the project was taken off his hands. I'm glad it was, I'm glad it was only half done. Half a turd is better than a whole turd. The man is supposed to be inspired, the only way he can think to set the scene is with a seven minute long opening narration? Lazy lazy lazy stupid lazy
JossJossJoss1 7 months ago
He forgot to mention the Mentats.
squamish4244 7 months ago
@squamish4244 yeah, because the film version SUUUUUUUUUUUCKS
JossJossJoss1 7 months ago
i still really want to undertake mentat training
mikebott 7 months ago
Despite the fact that I am a Star Wars freak, DUNE is deep and for serious mind thinkers. Talks about Ecology, Politics, Religion, War. Basically, I saw John's Apocalypse on the specific planet with the coming messiah, Muad'dib and despite the fact it deals with the future of Humankind in deep space, I see the simple future of our planet on DUNE.
PsychotronicWar 7 months ago
What is that thing at 3:30?
AThousandYoung 7 months ago
@AThousandYoung space navigator
81Szczery 7 months ago
@AThousandYoung A Guild Navigator. They are humans mutated beyond recognition and they float in a vat of gas.
squamish4244 7 months ago
@AThousandYoung it is a 3rd stage guild navigator.... he was once human but his body has gone through a metamorphosis over several thousand years from total saturation in the spice
Doug19752533 5 months ago
Lynch's 1984 adaptation is such a funny animal, for every two things it gets absolutely right it gets a third so ridiculously wrong it leaves you scratching your head in astonishment. Yet at least it often captures the scale, stark brutality and grandiosity of Herbert's vision which cannot be said of the scifi channel's adaptation.
AmazingL4rry 8 months ago 34
@AmazingL4rry Probably my biggest complaint was how it started raining at the end. What the shit ?
giantrobots1122 4 months ago
@giantrobots1122
Yeah that was just stupid beyond all measure.
AmazingL4rry 4 months ago
@AmazingL4rry Could not have said it better myself. But it's David Lynch's version, and I'm very glad it was made. He had his version, I have my version, and you have your version. We all make up details and discard others that we don't like to consider in our own personal versions that we create. In my own version, the laser-shield interaction doesn't exist, because people walking around everyday with potential nuclear bombs strapped to their waist would quickly be made illegal everywhere.
Chairmangoodchild 4 months ago
@Chairmangoodchild It worked in Dune society because the great houses were honor-bound by conduct, and ther other houses would come down hard on the rogue house. If Dune story had taken place in our modern society you'd have kamakaze and suicide bombers running around deliberately shooting themselves in the shield with their lasguns.
vebhe 4 months ago
@Chairmangoodchild
Nah if one was to become widely outlawed outright it would still end up being the lasgun rather than the shield, simply because it would be harder to conceal one for one thing and more importantly you must remember that all these noblemen and oligarchs can only maintain the caste system that keeps them rich and powerful if they keep the image of civility and at least pretend to be against mass murder. Use a lasgun and you seriously risk defying the convention.
AmazingL4rry 4 months ago
@AmazingL4rry Given the Holtzman shield's effect when a high frequency laser beam interacts with it's field (thermonuclear explosion) and how wide-spread Holtzman shields were, no wonder people never used laser weapons. :P
Dawnlighter 4 months ago
looks like a plot to check into iraq(is). since spice is oil.
STuRMBR1NGER 8 months ago
Who is the guy that narrates this. It sounds the same as the narrator of the banned mormon cartoon
RykoMD 8 months ago
@RykoMD Same thoughts I had.
CrocoDuck420 8 months ago
@RykoMD That is the voice of Frank Herbert himself. The guy who wrote the book.
Martintheauthor 8 months ago
I think this is the prologue for the "Extended Edition", which was released on DVD in 2006. But I can't find anywhere where the name of the new narrator is, IMDB doesn't have it, nor does the Amazon listing. Does anyone have the DVD? What do the credits say about the narrator?
seth1422 8 months ago
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seth1422 8 months ago
David Lynch's "Dune" differs from the book. That's why many people criticize it but I don't agree. The whole movie was very well done, visual effects were great for that time and the acting was brilliant. Kyle MacLachlan and Francesca Annis were stunning
Magnolia296 8 months ago
this prologue was very necessary
wargarurumon 9 months ago
Irulan's is better.
Hypatia1951 9 months ago
one thing alot of people miss when they state its the year 10,191 is that its not AD.... its AG, meaning "after guild" or the formation of the spacing guild. in reality Dune takes place around the year 20,000 AD by our calendar
Doug19752533 9 months ago 15
@Doug19752533 I have read the original novel and understand the Guild has its own calendar system, but what about the year 6041 mentioned by the narrator--is that A. D.?
LARiots1992 9 months ago
@LARiots1992 thats a good question. if i remember right, i think its AD, and the great Jihad was around 10,000 AD. the events of the fall of the humans, the rise of the machines and the great revolt all didnt happen in a matter of decades but slowly over mellenia. then there was the 'scattering' - humanity spreading out over the known universe, since Earth had now become uninhabitable from the wars. the events of Dune then are 10,000 after the revolt, 20,000 yrs total from now.
Doug19752533 9 months ago
@LARiots1992 yes its suppose to be AD. around the year 10,000 AD was the great jihad, and the guild rose, starting a new calander. the year 10,191 refers to AG, after guild. soo the events of Dune are around the year 20,000 AD
Doug19752533 5 months ago
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groofile 6 months ago
@Doug19752533 10,192 ( 3:45 )
groofile 6 months ago
@Doug19752533 Is it true that we the human race are the same people depicted in D U N E, what we will one day become?
ChicaWolverina 5 months ago
@ChicaWolverina yes. after the great jihad against the machines, humanity abandoned Earth, since it had become uninhabitable, and spread out through the universe in what became known as "the scattering"
Doug19752533 5 months ago
@Doug19752533 I can now see the truth in it. Thanks!
ChicaWolverina 4 months ago
Can you see Freemasonry and Order of the Eastern Star!?
jakeway85 9 months ago
@rudyhamzah i disagree...Star Wars is like Elementary School-an awesome time, only there to get you ready for more...Star trek is High School through college...Dune is like that crazy-ass graduate course that melts your brain studying for it, but gets you a few dollars more in a job interview...=)
TheKnuckleneck 9 months ago
George Carlin narrates?
scubielouie 10 months ago
Right at prologue's end, I keep picturing Dark Helmet looking to the camera and saying "Everybody got that?"
fiddlestyxify 10 months ago
i have never read the books it all makes sense now.this would make a great prequel
lestube001 10 months ago
I liked this intro..
andy7666 10 months ago
Those black armors in the first drawings look bloody awesome. Would have looked a lot better on for example the Sardaukars than the weird chemical worker outfits.
taistelutomaatti 10 months ago
Perhaps the movie chronology is different from the book chronology. The viewer watching this prologue with no previous knowledge of the Dune books would assume that both dates 6,041 and 10,192 are A.D. That is 4,030 years between us and the universe being ruled by thinking machines and 4,150 years between that and the setting of the movie. That is enough time for all these institutions to develop, Christ 4,000 years is twice the amount of time between Christ and us, 8,181 years in the future.
MrChicago103 10 months ago
I have a love-hate relationship with this movie, the love part comes from the outstanding score, visuals and decent effects for it's time to good acting except a few like Sting who is just wooden. I still think this is Lynch's weakest movie as he wasn't meant for big budget hollywood blockbusters and was outside his comfort zone, i still think the novel is superior.
Johnlindsey289 11 months ago
This is by far the worst film of Lynch's film career! He's a good director but a very very bad choice for a Dune movie when it should have been Alejandro Jorodowsky or Ridley Scott who are true fans of the book unlike Lynch who was just a gun-for-hire. Face it folks, Lynch was not meant for Sci-fi movies or expensive hollywood blockbusters! he went outside his comfort zone and failed miserably, thank god he disowned this disaster and went back to where he belongs: Independent cinema
Johnlindsey289 11 months ago
Where does the house of "Ordos" come in?
Tarik360 11 months ago
@Tarik360 Saddly the Ordos are only for the game... A pitty those are always my favorite House
Stargrey 10 months ago
@Tarik360 Ordos was created for the Dune videogame series. It was never an original Noble House in any of the Dune Series (written, that is).
cullumab 8 months ago
@cullumab Alright, you're not the first to tell me that, but thanks anyways for expanding it for me :P
Tarik360 8 months ago
the sardaukar are just like the space marine from warhammer 40k
copacialex 11 months ago
@copacialex Space marines are a direct rip-off of the Sardaukar . The Dark Angels space marines home planet is called caliban and House Atreides home planet is called calidan - coincidence, I think not!
TheFluffy47 10 months ago
@TheFluffy47 i know that belive me
copacialex 10 months ago
@copacialex
Space Marines from Warhammer 40K are just like the Sardaukar. ;)
Mrster 8 months ago
You know I would like to see the space marines and the fremen have it out
notmack 8 months ago
@Mrster who are 40ks freman then?
mikebott 7 months ago
@mikebott Talahan? Or some of the marines chapter from the 'elite troops' aspect.
inq101 7 months ago
Crappy movie or not, star wars nor star trek aren't fit to wipe dune's ball sweat. Dune is in an entirely different league.
xg4bx 11 months ago
@xg4bx yep you are right ,Dune and Foundation :D
copacialex 11 months ago
If "Dune" is ballet then "Star Wars" is square dance.......yeah...aren't I just a stuffy pseudo-intellectual....FART!
thx291 11 months ago
If a book or a film needs this much explaining before it can actually begin you know something's wrong...
eilbeef 11 months ago
If Dune was an expensive bottle of fine wine, Star Wars would be a packet of Koolaid
iluvgoldfrapp 11 months ago 52
@iluvgoldfrapp
Let's not forget Avatar is another similar movie to Dune as some call it Dune with trees instead of the desert
Johnlindsey289 11 months ago
@iluvgoldfrapp LOL
bookfiend2009 8 months ago
@iluvgoldfrapp True, true. But the fine bottle of wine has never been drunk correctly and thus stays in a cool secluded spot never to be opened again. Star Wars however, the proplem with Star Wars was New Star Wars, thus making Classic Star Wars that much better.
Xengarrith 8 months ago
@iluvgoldfrapp i love the coolaid more than the wine
microvz 8 months ago
@iluvgoldfrapp coparing them is idiotic, they belong in two different genres.
jros83 7 months ago
@jros83 no they don't...
helloolleh555 7 months ago
@helloolleh555 yes. they do. you're just too much of a philistine to see it. that, or you're going to force star wars into the same catagory just as you can bash on it.
jros83 7 months ago
@jros83 or you're just too much of naive fanboy to see the many similarities between the both.
helloolleh555 7 months ago
@helloolleh555 similarities means nothing. they are in two seperate genres. just because they both use space and ships and blah blah blah means nothing. the themes are fundementally different. again, you're just clumping both into one just to better suit your personal opinion.
jros83 7 months ago
@jros83 Yeah, there are many more similarities than just space and ships. I would explain it all to you but I feel it would be a waste of time as you are delusional and refuse to see any other point than yours...
helloolleh555 7 months ago
@helloolleh555 you won't "explain it all" because there's nothing to explain. they are too different in theme and scope to be in the same genre.
jros83 7 months ago
@iluvgoldfrapp comparing them is idiotic, they belong in two different genres.
jros83 7 months ago
@iluvgoldfrapp Well said!!!
lesababy 6 months ago
@iluvgoldfrapp **THIS** Dune a "expensive bottle of fine wine"?? You've been huffing too much jenkem.
acrovader 6 months ago
@iluvgoldfrapp amen, and frak anyone who says otherwise
rurh1981 6 months ago
NOTHING IS BETTER THAN STAR WARS!
Kapitananime 11 months ago
It is by meth alone I set my mind in motion.
It is by smoking of crystal.. that thoughts aquire speed... The teeth aquire cavities... The meth mouth becomes a warning.
It is by meth alone I set my mind in motion.
shocker315 1 year ago
@shocker315 I must not tweak, tweaking is the mind killer
JimTS 11 months ago
@shocker315 I pissed myself i was laughing so hard...
scotch211 11 months ago
Way to go on the crap quality.
Nannirk 1 year ago
the book from Frank Herbert is a masterpiece and the movie from David Lynch all so, the book is like a prophecy.
nfrantnik 1 year ago
I've always enjoyed the Dune universe; imagine the kind of Dune made nowadays with an astronomical budget....
holt2k 1 year ago
The Spice must flow!
fievel12b 1 year ago
Now only if they could give the LOTR prologue treatment to this. Would be great to see much of this in live-action.
arscon 1 year ago
Thank god for the Butlerian Jihad.
grandadpoppyable 1 year ago
Crayola Playhouse presents Allan Smithee's Dune
deconstructionist67 1 year ago
What is this from ?
It looks more like a movie ( animated ) than say either of the Major Motion Pictures
I remember...
PatrickLohKamp 1 year ago
@PatrickLohKamp This was the intro to the extended edition of the 1984 Dune Movie. It replaced the opening monologue by Princess Irulan.
daximil 1 year ago
The narrator is NOT Frank Herbert! It's done by a professional voice actor; go listen to narration of the full Mormon animation short that was briefly featured in Bill Mahr's Religulous.
BlackMoonLilith 1 year ago
@BlackMoonLilith It must have been a really shit professional voice actor then. Tehre I said it. :)
It could have been forgiven if it was done by frank herbert. Maybe thats why so many believe it to be true...
700gsteak 1 year ago
Gasbar, do we have worm sign?
700gsteak 1 year ago
The extended edition has Cylons???
GMOFoodsaregood 1 year ago
I didn't mind the narration so much as the crappy illustrations... wtf were they thinking?
altar7 1 year ago