Raven "Two To Tango" [Original XBOX unveiling Tech Demo]

[banj0smah0mie]

Man, the world of technology has come a long way since the original xbox.

[blahethanblah]

ummmm...Real Steel anyone?

[quaikero]

waw cuantos recuerdos T_T

[hellsjanitorialteam]

this clearly is the original xbox engine like it or not

i'm always amazed at people's ability to cram the words fuck and shit so many times in one comment.

[hellsjanitorialteam]

Drunk Tank! 

[Vividas2]

The last part of this demo is where they got the idea for Kinect. ;)

[Jort007]

wtf _O-

[googleboy314]

Cant wait for the Xbox 720 demo.

[cireck]

Alot of stupid comments, the xbox CAN do these graphics example of that is dead or alive 3 and doa 2 extreme and ninja gaiden black those games were extremely good looking even better thah this shit.

[LOLMAN22]

@cireck shut the fuck you you fucking retard...

look at the fucking self shadowing on the robot, its so fucking detailed and doesn't shimmer/dither a single bit. Only top of the line PC GPU's today can pull that off. This movie was complete horse shit, all fucking cg. fucking xbox retards

[danny6231]

@LOLMAN22 oohhmiagawsh! 0_o shadows!!!!!!!1!!

[LOLMAN22]

@danny6231 like it or not its still one of the toughest "effects" to pull off in any 3d engine. I beat Witcher 2 recently (great game) with a GPU that has 1 GB Vram and even in that game the shadows dither... especially on characters faces. And on Crysis if you increase the shadow resolution to 2048 it basically kills the frame rate even on modern machines.

Point is the xbox could never dream to pull off shadows like this and if you believe this video you are a fucking retard

[cireck]

@LOLMAN22 you're right, thatnk for point that I saw it more closely and realized that is CG, any way have a nice day and fuck you.

[Chradnev]

@cireck It's by Blur Studio, you idiot. A CG production house, not a video game studio.

[cireck]

@Chradnev yeah? then i don't give a fuck

[Chradnev]

@cireck cool beans

[AnotherPostcard]

Agh, her waist.

[JoeyJoeJoe5000]

This shit is per-rendered, people. The original Xbox was NOT able to produce those graphics in real time. I think most tech heads know by now what the GeForce3 and Pentium 3 were capable of, and that is, not much. Today, the Xbox's hardware is slow garbage.

[nickl712]

@JoeyJoeJoe5000 ps3 fan?

[JoeyJoeJoe5000]

@nickl712 I'm not a fanboy of any platform. It does not take a genius to know that this tech demo is CGI. Just like the first "footage" of Killzone 2 before the launch of the PS3 was pre-rendered. Sure it's graphics were nice, but not CGI nice.

[Jr0cK3r95]

Xbox was a excellent console ! a real one !

at least i cant say the same to the 360 .... had one, but it sucks, sold and buyed a ps3... i was hopping that microsoft would really do something better than that :/ ,

[LSP55]

Anyone else thinking she's controlling the robot with kinect?

[Kcon83]

@dairyduck

I've played crysis for the pc on my plasma in the living room with an xbox controller attached.

[darkraven1414]

Still looks pretty good but i definatly looks like xbox

[jjalepeno55]

the wii can do this too, but the developers make the wii look bad

[QWERTYCommander]

The Xbox sure can do butch girls with big boobies.

[kokone9]

I remeber seeing this

Notable, and stunning graphics for its time

[fcycles]

the robot was impressive, but the character not that enthousiast for a tech demo. sorry...

[DexterBoyGenius33]

i don't remember anything on Xbox looking this good - hehe... but it was the most powerful system of last gen fer sure

[VideoQuestEx]

I've been looking for this particular video!

Should have known 'Blur Studios' had a hand in making this.

Plus, I think Raven is an unlockable character in 'Amped: Freestyle Snowboarding' for the original Xbox.

[lattelover16]

xbox didn't reach those kind of graphics.

that only posible on the xbox 360 & ps3

anyways they shud make d character a man since she luks more like a male.

xbox demo=failure

[CabooseAzul]

You never played Splinter Cell Chaos Theory on the xbox didnt you ?

[joman66]

I have, definatly 360 graphics for that game..

[silenceofthehills]

@ Wii comments below

The Wii is powerfull. Factor 5 shows more promise then even High Voltage did as you can see on Monokoma's site.

Without them, not one dev would push to it's normal standard, making ports look horrid.

Wii is more powerfull then Xbox. StarWars:Rogue squadrun2/3 runs with full bump mapping on 1 MB of texure memory + 6:1 compression 3 would still be good enough. Wii could have done alot of ports on their PC counterparts low-medium settings, rather totally last gen.

[jpollorena]

Wii is more powerful than Xbox? Xbox has 8GB's of space while Wii only has 1/2GB. Xbox has SM 1.0, while Wii has none. I have Splinter Cell Double Agent for Original Xbox and Wii, and the Original Xbox version was more clear and had better graphics.

[silenceofthehills]

@jpollorena

Can't strictly compare like a PC card, very premature. This is to say they tapped 100% it from day one. SC:DA looking better on Xbox doesn't mean anything, they modeled it off the Chaos Theory standard and Wii they paid no mind to.

If GC has built in features, why doesnt Wii? Even if it didnt, it still does. Its a different architecture and naming system, but the same stuff. Devs are just strict in programming the SAME way all the time. The specs are there and specs are better.

[jpollorena]

They payed no mind to Wii because they know they can't do much without Shader Models.

[TheNativeDialect]

@jpollorena

what does HDD space have to do with power? The original Xbox did not support hard drive installs, so your point is meaningless. Only blind fanboys think the Xbox is more powerful. The Wii processors have more bandwidth. The Wii has more RAM. And even though it is only minuscule, the Wii does have faster processor (759MHZ compared to the Xbox's 733MHZ).

The problem is, no developer is willing to push the Wii hardware. Why bother when a shovelware game can sell millions?

[jpollorena]

@TheNativeDialect

Retard. Only a few MHz higher for a CPU? You think THAT'S BETTER?! So what if it has more ram. At least the Xbox has Shader Models. Unlike Wii. HDD space does make a console better. THINK ABOUT IT!!!!

[TheNativeDialect]

@jpollorena

You said more powerful. And clearly, you have no clue what you are talking about. An HDD is useful for system efficiency if you can do things like install to the hard drive. The original Xbox did not have such a feature, thus it does not affect the gameplay. Also, go read a few interviews about the Wii, from Factor 5. Do you even have a clue what kind of normal mapping that the Wii is capable of?

[TheNativeDialect]

@jpollorena

For the record, I play PC games. So anything I own will be more powerful than the toys you play with. I have no stake in supporting the Wii in this debate (can you call it that? you are so ill informed...). I am merely focused on speaking the truth. Honestly, you have like no clue about which you are speaking. Absolutely none. You just see numbers and buzz words. Get a clue.

[dairyduck]

@TheNativeDialect i play PC games as well, but c'mon, on consol you can lay back on a comfortable couch, sit back ad apply on a big screen. also with PC, your friend gets a new game, you have to check to see if you have the correct hardware capabilities AND if your videocard is compatable, fi not too bad you cant play that game with your friend. but if you have an xbox, your friend has an xbox, you can just hope on and play with your friends. but its all opinionated

[CGonzales033]

@dairyduck none of those thin gs are true anymore, stop spreading FUD youy dumbass.

[dairyduck]

@CGonzales033 actually its 100% true, because i have these same issues everyu time new game coems out.

[Porion491]

@dairyduck When was the last time anyone had to check their specs? Is this 1992?

[dairyduck]

@Porion491 also, for the record, even if you have the top gear of the time, it matters not when the company decides to update something, and the one hardware device that this update does not support happens to be the one you own, then your out of luck and cant play that game, or any games on the same engine. personal experience with Source powered games like Counter-Strike, Half-Life 2, pretty much some of the most popular PC games to date.

[TheNativeDialect]

@dairyduck

My computer eats up Half Life 2 for breakfast. Half Life 2 is the oldest Source Engine game. I also have Left 4 Dead 2, which runs the most current version of the Source Engine. I can max everything so long as I do not exceed 2x AA and 1366x768. And my laptop runs an iGP, not a discrete card. You are basically running on myths from 1997, back when driver issues and engine updates could make or break a users ability to run a game. These days, everything is simplified.

[dairyduck]

@TheNativeDialect actually Counter Strike Source is the oldest source game, it was released almost a year before Half-Life 2 which was held back from release many times due to complications,and for the record i run on technology only four years old, and could play any source game, until Valve decided to punch up the engine. the only graphics card that happened to not be supported was the one i own. I can still play games more advanced then Half-Life 2, you never know when a company will do that.

[TheNativeDialect]

@dairyduck

My laptop is hooked up to my HDTV via an HDMI cable. I have a controller and an arcade stick. Now mind you, I have a Gateway NV53. It isn't cutting edge. I am able to run Resident Evil 5, Batman Arkham Asylum and Street Fighter IV, with comparable graphics to the Xbox 360 and PS3. My laptop doesn't even have a dedicated GPU, just an iGP (a Radeon HD 4200). Who checks specs anymore? Even budget cards can out perform consoles.

[Beshir111]

you people really like wasting time

[sorrowfulsnowleopard]

El-Drunk-e-Tank-o :D

[stealthfan13]

Nice exercise video, drunk tank

[SKFD68]

Unk- Dray, Ank-Tay

[RorXrules]

DRUNK TANK!!!

[Beshir111]

if you came here just to type drunk tank then youre a fucking idiot

[EpiXNooBProDucTioN]

tank drunk

[Beshir111]

@EpiXNooBProDucTioN thats better

[forgottenshadow23]

@Beshir111 u typed drunk tank as well

[PriestmanX]

DRUNK TANK

[MTianRuiYang]

Drunk Tank

[BlaznSpecter]

rooster teeth DRUNK TANK!

[jickjackmouseattack1]

drunk tank.

That video looks pretty cool, it might have been a cool game, who knows

and to finish: DRUNK TANK, Fuck off I am watching you

[MisledNeNick]

DRUNK!! TANK!!

[lawrence760]

drunk tank

[witchking3434]

drunk tank

[minnesotafan21]

Boobs! Drunk Tank!

[SolidSnake9001]

DRUNK TANK

[XiamwatchingyouX]

Yes people, we get it, YOU HEARD IT ON THE DRUNK TANK!!!! STOP POSTING WHERE YOU HEARD IT FROM AND COMMENT ON THE VIDEO!!!

[PS3NSKYLINE34]

DRUNK MOTHER FUCKING TANK!

[recoverytwo]

drunktank

[GrimlockPriime]

Drunk Tank!

[heroman117]

DRUNK TANK

[HU5K3Y2010]

Drunk Tank!

[ElPinguinoNegro]

Drunk Tank!

[groovybruce]

Drunk Tank

[lozg1985]

drunk tank!

[jpollorena]

Xbox > Wii

:D

[kanfor]

Oh, is better that Xbox360 and PS3!!!

XDDDD

[sean19904]

wow this look better than 100% of wii games lol and they say wii 4 times powerful than the original xbox LMAO

[louiefoo]

really compare metroid to halo 1&2 and Mario galaxy to any game on the xbox .

message me back if you syill think the xbox is better than wii

[sean19904]

wow the wii graphics is slightly better than xbox noting special just look at farcry for the xbox then look at the wii version. mario galaxy can run on the xbox thsgs a fact same as brawl 243 MHZ 729 GPU thats not far frm the xbox. and metroid does not look better than halo1and 2 weres your facts at?

[louiefoo]

have you compared metroid prime 3 and halo 1&2 you probably dont have a wii and never have played one so besides name xbox/360 game beside anything having to do with halo

[TheStrategoat]

Mass Effect 1 and 2. Gears Of War 1 and 2. Left 4 Dead 1 and 2. Lost Odyssey. Fable 2. I have all three systems and graphically the wii is at the bottom in comparison to the other two . Also you are comparing the xbox(last generation) and the wii(current generation) and saying that it is better? Well by your logic the 360 is better than the NES the N64 and the Gamecube. The fact is that the wii is lagging far behind graphic wise.

[elementInfinitium]

This was awesome until the butch bitch leapt out of the mech.

[heuylewis5000]

you guys would be surprized at the technology we had 8 years ago, yes the original xbox did actully have those graphics

[SmugDarkLoser]

Not really. The reason why it looks good is because it's rendering such a small room.

[airraideagle]

Obviously this is FAR beyond what the NV2A GPU in the original Xbox could ever hope to do.

Also, as far as the level & quality of Anti-Aliasing plus the overall rendering quality is concerned, even the Xbox 360 & PlayStation3 could not reproduce this pre-rendered CGI demo in realtime, 100% the current consoles cannot do that much AA. It could however, be done on high-end Nvidia or AMD GPUs that have more performance and better AA than Xenos & RSX.

[airraideagle]

I would say this demo would take at least an Nvidia G80 (GeForce 8800) or AMD R600 (Radeon HD 2900) to handle it in real-time That's 2006 technology.

[calumknight1984]

Actually it could produce these graphics problem was NOT ingame as this is using the full power of the console for just this short segment in a game your using the power of the console for A.I, Graphics, Animation etc this is just basically a cutscene with dumb ai with no "intelligence" beyond what the programmers have input the characters to do so therefore all power was on the graphics

[leydeplomo]

I couldn't have said it better myself mate.

[silenceofthehills]

@calumknight1984

That is so, however, I think alot of people get confused with the AI thing. AI counts as only it's movement laws preformed in the geometry engine. AI does not use fillrate, so here it's nothing too. When devs say this about AI, they ment the FLOPS for AI can only stressed so much. This limits how smart or how many there are, but it doesn't technically drain polys or visuals per-say. They are in seperate units.

So it's more on being a small room with 2 models on screen.

[CalvinKostov]

@airraideagle

Your kidding right?

[xdeiri]

xy274

i hate morons fanboyz , what is the best looking game on 360? its gears of war, and it dosent come close to the effects and light and shadows on that robot not to mention the textures

[masterpiraka]

If you have all the box's resources, concetrated on a gobot, a bald girl, and a room, you bet youra ss the 360 one would look better than this.

[xdeiri]

tech demo my ass, they can never make such visual even in 360

[xy274]

yes they can with the 360 graphics. u must bee the dum ass, dum ass

[1888junkteam]

excellent work!

[tom9729]

Hilarious that no one here seems to understand what a tech demo is...

[jimmyjimbo72]

Fuck this shit. If the graphics were that good why didn't any of the games look that good?

[Glyxamaru13]

Check out Halo 2,Unreal Championship 2:The Liandri Conflict,Doom 3,The Chronicles of Riddick:Escape from Butcher Bay,Farcry:Instincts,and Dead or Alive:Xtreme Beach Volleyball.Still think it sucks?

[jimmyjimbo72]

I didn't say the graphics sucked altogether, but they did in comparison to this.

[turbografx]

This pre-rendered CG demo was shown in MARCH 2000. It was probably made during late 1999 or early 2000. Obviously, like most other CG (even low-end CG) it is far beyond the capability of the original Xbox. Even X360 cannot render this quality in real time. However todays high-end PC cards can easily reach this level, even if only in a tech demo. I'm sure we'll see actual games with this level of quality soon.

[slashnpraise]

what planet are you on? xbox 360 cannot render these kinds of graphics but PC's can. do you know anything about programming to specific hardware? still you make false assumptions and continue to babble. games have been this quality for some time now (a couple years actually). How dare you oppose me saying that this Linear 1 room (real-time but pre-scripted animated) demo still out matches graphics of todays consoles and computers. you obviously need to upgrade your comp :)

[BuckFastZombie]

Riddick and doom dont show these kind of graphics! These were CGI, there are real time shadows, and light sources here that 2x gtx280's would struggle with, same with the original PS2 armoured core tech demo's, they were about realisation! this is what programming could one day come to produce on their console is what they are trying to say.

[zlada]

LOL this is the worst comment!!! Have you even played a 360 before? Launch games such as Kameo had better graphics then this.

[ExtremalZ]

turbografx

You are idiot.

[RichGilly]

This is similar to the tech demos you can get for your computer graphics card. There is no way a game will have graphics like you see on the nVidia Humanhead demo (search on youtube if you don't know what that is). At least they won't have games like that that will run on a GeForce 8800GTX.

[slashnpraise]

Actually, games next year will rival this Demo's real-time rendering graphics and go beyond, this was in December 2000 before the system released in November 2001. and Games nowadays have graphics that will rival Pixar movies i.e Crysis, Batman: Arkham Asylam, Heavy Rain and they all look as good as this if not better ;]

[turbografx]

Todays games do NOT come anywhere near Pixar movies. Not even Crysis.

[slashnpraise]

yea... im sure... lol

[airraideagle]

@slashnpraise: this demo was shown in March 2000 at Game Developers Conference, where Microsoft officially announced the Xbox.

[slashnpraise]

thank you

[morgs2020]

Human head is still closer to being in game than this rendering was in 2000

[eccocid]

what an ugly character

[liquidFIRE00z]

@eccocid I guess it was to represent the Xbox's tough, badass..feminine... yeah I dunno where I'm going with this.

[JTNugget]

This was such utter bullshit. NT Microsuck

[ickywii]

lmao

[ANSON29]

this could not have been real time. no way...if that`s true why didn`t ll the other games released on the xbox look slightly downgrade...this was a good FMV that`s all.

[p0rnX]

Because a real game has to calculate (and keep in memory) much much more than a single room and two actors?

[ANSON29]

either way pornx it was not true. yea it could be real time on that level of just a simple room and two actors. But the system couldn`t handle to 200 actor and 10 room and look like that, why get a gamer`s hopes up on a half-truth. Don`t get me wrong. I think the Xbox was the coolest system made. I was rooting for it when it first dropped.

[zlada]

beacuse its a tech demo??

[TavishHill]

Splinter Cell Chaos Theory looks as good as this demo if not better in many some areas.

[InaudibleWhisper]

As well as Doom 3 and Chronicles of Riddick.

[PlayLifeX]

yep riddick and doom3 shows this kinda gfx or even better.

[Firestorm189]

i agree that was definately not realtime, but still a good quality FMV. The girls face is like a potato :D

[xXWarchiefXx]

This is the fucking ugliest shit I've seen in a while. God looking at that girls face uhhhh.

[moh1t]

i remeber seeing this on tv, jaw dropping, but tech demos are never indicative of what games will look and play like, its just a showcase, but it was xbox hardware

[whiteguysamurai]

This was indeed running on xbox hardware.

[Jabjabs]

Well not this exact version was but yes they did indeed produce a version that did work in real time that said it had lost a little on the lighting and lost the good AA but otherwise it was very close.

[AirRaidX]

no. it was not.

[kewbonium]

Yes... except this was actually running on the original XBox.

[MeThEbEsTeSt]

yeah, not real time though...this isnt even good cutscene quality.

[MNICY]

This is where no memory was dedicated to the actual game.

welcome to the land of a 5MB game with 59MB of video memory usage...

[Oniconga]

I remember this, it would have been cool if all the Xbox games would look like this... I thought to myself back in early 2001