I read all of the critical comments. Well, I for one liked Kempff's performance. It sounded great to me !! I enjoyed it and I don't really care what anybody else thinks. Could any of you have played it any better? Doubtful.....
Very, very interesting performance. No other recording I've ever heard, made this movement sound like a march. All sensitivity and melancholy has been completely sent to the background. I don't know how it should be played, but Kempff knows what he wants.
It's not as good as the second one D: and this is my favorite movement. Well. I really like the flutes. XD How they play the flutes. so pretty. I love flutes. I like how the flutes are played in this concerto >_>
Wilhelm Kempff doesn't play this piece well. He doesn't understand the piece musically that is why he plays the notes without the proper interpretation.
@93rardo What a totally misinformed remark! This is a most remarkable performance by exceptional artists and an excellent orchestra. And for its time, the quality of the recording for a live performance is quite good. The conductor, Ancerl, appropriately keeps the orchestral accompaniment subdued and entirely supportive to the piano lead, which is often not the case in many performances. Kempf of course is in his element with a free and supple rendering unhampered by technical challenges.
@93rardo I´m not sure what you mean by “to(sic) little legato”, but let me put it this way.
This is as Chopinistic a performance as I could imagine, almost as if the young 20 year old composer himself were playing as he did when he introduced the work to an intrigued public audience in Warsaw in 1830.
Ich moechte entsculdigen alle Hoerer fuer meine Mitbuerger. Ich bin Pole. Ich denke, dass diese Interpretazione sehr schoen und interessant ist. Fuer uns, Polen, beseonders. Ein bisschen andere Chopin, wie wir kennen. Aber die Musik ist eine internationale Kunst! Sie gehoert nicht einem Volk, aber allem Menschen. Wie koennen wir ueber politik streiten, wenn diese schoene Klange hoeren?
Ich habe gedacht, hier ginge es um Musik!!! Mit Entsetzen musste ich feststellen, dass diese bösen und dummen Kommentare auch noch von einem deutschen sind. Junger Mann, sie tun mir leid. Zur Musik, vergleichen sie es doch mal mit der Interpretation von Arthur Rubinstein. Nach meiner Meinung spielt er deutlich sauberer.
If you sum up all of the innocent murdered by slavic people like stalin or radovan karadcic you easily can be compared to hitler and himmler. and now take another drink from your bottle of vodka, nasdrowje
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Lets snort Ziklon B and hear interpretation of a real gerat polish Pianist -Artur Rubinstein or Krystian Zimerman.Kempff can playing preussens gloria but not Chopin.
This interpretation really couldn't be anybody else's - it is so finely wrought; delicate yet rhythmically strong (and just occasionally technically flawed, but who cares?). I miss personality like this amongst today's 'big guns'. Thanks so much for sharing this recording with us.
...the beginning of the mouvement i listened a few times by closing eyes[the piano introduction]...and i said to myself:my gosh, this could be glenn gould..LOL....the same alienation effect he used when he either liked or hated a certain piece!
kempff had always this nervous "capriccioso",but here sometimes he plays too rough and overpointed to cover the technical lacks,particularly in the coda.
but u must kow germans didnt like practise very much,
Kempff could certainly be rough (though I've heard rougher than this - e.g. the development section of Chopin's B-flat minor sonata, first movement) but I always find that there are ample compensations artistically - his performance of the second movement of this concerto is sublime. I was not aware that Germans didn't like practising very much, so thanks for that insight! (Is this also true of more recent players like Christoph Eschenbach or Lars Vogt?)
...i mean rough in contrast to elegant as chopin is suppose to be played.but although the tempo might be pretty slow one doesnt have the impression that he plays too slow because kempff was a great poet on the piano.i am quite surprised that he played the 2.concerto,i have never heard,he was no virtuoso and the last bars might prove that,but as u said "who cares".i remember the slow mouvement of the hammerklaviersonate op.106 i hard live in concert,he played so beautiful that i lost my tongue!
Wow - you heard him play Op. 106 live?! I admire his two recordings of it immensely (and grew up with the 1960s one). I only heard him live once, when he was 80, in a Beethoven programme. This was in London's Royal Festival Hall and I think his gentle subleties didn't quite reach me at the back of the hall!
ya it happend during the 70´s and although i was a child it was unforgettable how he played those famous "adagio sostenuto",full of beauty in touch and sound and what a spirit,every bar was fulfilled with such a deep inspiration,and i saw his face in tears,perhaps he wanted to say "forgive me that i was so involved in the nazi-period" only by the power of music.this moment i shall never forget in my live.he played this mouvement as beautiful as i ve never heard by any pianist dead and alive.
why didn't chopin write more orchestral music???
ThePhilipjones235 7 months ago
I read all of the critical comments. Well, I for one liked Kempff's performance. It sounded great to me !! I enjoyed it and I don't really care what anybody else thinks. Could any of you have played it any better? Doubtful.....
Jeffbear1 1 year ago
@Jeffbear1 couldn't have put it anybetter :)
zepcat86 1 year ago
genius, brilliant !
SuperBlackMoth 1 year ago
Very, very interesting performance. No other recording I've ever heard, made this movement sound like a march. All sensitivity and melancholy has been completely sent to the background. I don't know how it should be played, but Kempff knows what he wants.
katchum 1 year ago 2
its quite funny that people think they can say Kempff doesnt understand the music
zamba00mamba 1 year ago 2
It's not as good as the second one D: and this is my favorite movement. Well. I really like the flutes. XD How they play the flutes. so pretty. I love flutes. I like how the flutes are played in this concerto >_>
dussekfan 1 year ago
Wilhelm Kempff doesn't play this piece well. He doesn't understand the piece musically that is why he plays the notes without the proper interpretation.
93rardo 1 year ago
@93rardo What a totally misinformed remark! This is a most remarkable performance by exceptional artists and an excellent orchestra. And for its time, the quality of the recording for a live performance is quite good. The conductor, Ancerl, appropriately keeps the orchestral accompaniment subdued and entirely supportive to the piano lead, which is often not the case in many performances. Kempf of course is in his element with a free and supple rendering unhampered by technical challenges.
townsendjean 1 year ago
@townsendjean
You don't think that Kempff plays with to little legato?
93rardo 1 year ago
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@93rardo I´m not sure what you mean by “to(sic) little legato”, but let me put it this way.
This is as Chopinistic a performance as I could imagine, almost as if the young 20 year old composer himself were playing as he did when he introduced the work to an intrigued public audience in Warsaw in 1830.
townsendjean 1 year ago
@townsendjean
I doubt it. He hammers the keys to much. Chopin's music should flow like water.
93rardo 1 year ago
@93rardo “Hammering keys” was hardly characteristic of Kempffs piano playing style ever.
townsendjean 1 year ago
@townsendjean
I don't know, it just doesn't seem to flow quite natural. Have you heard Zimerman's version?
93rardo 1 year ago
@93rardo you enjoy elevator music please erase youtube account
SuperBlackMoth 1 year ago
@SuperBlackMoth
What do you mean?
93rardo 1 year ago
I'm sorry, but this is terrible. There's nothing good about this recording.
KhagarBalugrak 2 years ago
@KhagarBalugrak
I second that. And I will probably get as many thumb- downs as you got.
DGrieux 1 year ago
Ich moechte entsculdigen alle Hoerer fuer meine Mitbuerger. Ich bin Pole. Ich denke, dass diese Interpretazione sehr schoen und interessant ist. Fuer uns, Polen, beseonders. Ein bisschen andere Chopin, wie wir kennen. Aber die Musik ist eine internationale Kunst! Sie gehoert nicht einem Volk, aber allem Menschen. Wie koennen wir ueber politik streiten, wenn diese schoene Klange hoeren?
Wolter13061978 2 years ago 7
Ich habe gedacht, hier ginge es um Musik!!! Mit Entsetzen musste ich feststellen, dass diese bösen und dummen Kommentare auch noch von einem deutschen sind. Junger Mann, sie tun mir leid. Zur Musik, vergleichen sie es doch mal mit der Interpretation von Arthur Rubinstein. Nach meiner Meinung spielt er deutlich sauberer.
wambui37 2 years ago
*sigh...
why can't you peeps just enjoy the music.
MicrobeObliteratorMo 2 years ago 8
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i am sorry but this polish son of a bitch started to offend others
captain2ahab 2 years ago
if you're that interested in arguing, how about debating through private message?
MicrobeObliteratorMo 2 years ago
Really interesting!
I did not know that Kempff recorded this concert...
Pulin85 2 years ago 4
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weltmeister12 2 years ago
You are insane
captain2ahab 2 years ago
slavic spirit: Er..do you mean Vodka?
captain2ahab 2 years ago
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weltmeister12 2 years ago
"millinos" "spitit".....are you still drunk ?
If you sum up all of the innocent murdered by slavic people like stalin or radovan karadcic you easily can be compared to hitler and himmler. and now take another drink from your bottle of vodka, nasdrowje
captain2ahab 2 years ago
Stalin was Slavic-congratulations??!!Shut up facking german nazi.A co do kempffa nie słyszysz tego rytmu raz dwa, raz dwa?
weltmeister12 2 years ago
you shut up, polish cunt. Stalin was from Georgia, but he adopted russian citizenship and committed those crimes .
Who helped Hitler to gas the Jews ? You fucking antisemitic, catholics polish cunts.
captain2ahab 2 years ago
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weltmeister12 2 years ago
Oh man take a big bottle of vodka and fuck off. I am now enjoying the beautiful interpretation of a gerat GERMAN pianoplayer.
captain2ahab 2 years ago
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Lets snort Ziklon B and hear interpretation of a real gerat polish Pianist -Artur Rubinstein or Krystian Zimerman.Kempff can playing preussens gloria but not Chopin.
weltmeister12 2 years ago
Oh my god, you really need a doctor. Sorry, I did not invite you to our 1st of September party
captain2ahab 2 years ago
niech cię piekło pochłonie cholerny nazisto...
weltmeister12 2 years ago
There must be made a CD of this marvelous interpretation,
cortor3652 2 years ago 3
This interpretation really couldn't be anybody else's - it is so finely wrought; delicate yet rhythmically strong (and just occasionally technically flawed, but who cares?). I miss personality like this amongst today's 'big guns'. Thanks so much for sharing this recording with us.
paulprocopolis 3 years ago 3
...the beginning of the mouvement i listened a few times by closing eyes[the piano introduction]...and i said to myself:my gosh, this could be glenn gould..LOL....the same alienation effect he used when he either liked or hated a certain piece!
kempff had always this nervous "capriccioso",but here sometimes he plays too rough and overpointed to cover the technical lacks,particularly in the coda.
but u must kow germans didnt like practise very much,
they think losing being ingenious:))
kajohada 3 years ago
Kempff could certainly be rough (though I've heard rougher than this - e.g. the development section of Chopin's B-flat minor sonata, first movement) but I always find that there are ample compensations artistically - his performance of the second movement of this concerto is sublime. I was not aware that Germans didn't like practising very much, so thanks for that insight! (Is this also true of more recent players like Christoph Eschenbach or Lars Vogt?)
paulprocopolis 3 years ago 2
...i mean rough in contrast to elegant as chopin is suppose to be played.but although the tempo might be pretty slow one doesnt have the impression that he plays too slow because kempff was a great poet on the piano.i am quite surprised that he played the 2.concerto,i have never heard,he was no virtuoso and the last bars might prove that,but as u said "who cares".i remember the slow mouvement of the hammerklaviersonate op.106 i hard live in concert,he played so beautiful that i lost my tongue!
kajohada 3 years ago
Wow - you heard him play Op. 106 live?! I admire his two recordings of it immensely (and grew up with the 1960s one). I only heard him live once, when he was 80, in a Beethoven programme. This was in London's Royal Festival Hall and I think his gentle subleties didn't quite reach me at the back of the hall!
paulprocopolis 3 years ago
ya it happend during the 70´s and although i was a child it was unforgettable how he played those famous "adagio sostenuto",full of beauty in touch and sound and what a spirit,every bar was fulfilled with such a deep inspiration,and i saw his face in tears,perhaps he wanted to say "forgive me that i was so involved in the nazi-period" only by the power of music.this moment i shall never forget in my live.he played this mouvement as beautiful as i ve never heard by any pianist dead and alive.
kajohada 3 years ago
Sounds truly wonderful - such memories are to be treasured.
paulprocopolis 3 years ago
Thank you so much for this amazing Kempff recording, I will treasure it.
fanniandwads 3 years ago 2