Lol. People always engaged in such silly debates about which performance is "better". I wouldn't dare say "better," but my I prefer the interpretation of Idil Biret on this sonata, and she was a student of Kempff and worked on the sonatas with him. She is the only one, I feel, that does the second movement justice, as well as the third.
@umbyronco85 yes its true if you compare he than ladygaga, i think lady gaga earn more with a single, but he spoke about " economic crisis , i don't know if he can spoke about it.
no such thing mrpolaroid. This is Beethoven, no interpretations are aloud here. He constantly changes the speed ...... this is catastrophic.... and he slows the speed very ugly.... however you can like it, no doubt abut that. Just if he goes on an exam with this one he will fail or pass with the big E.
@sashkoo89 Well......if music is only limited by stiff and meaningless rules and loses its intrinsic meaning of touching people and as an auditory art.......what is left then?
@sashkoo89 There are 2 people in our brain when we play the piano. One is the scientist, who thinks "This should be played louder, smaller, faster, slower". The other is the artist, who plays by heart and plays freely emotionally.
@sashkoo89 i'm pretty sure if he DID go out on an exam with this one (though i don't see any possible circumstance where he would have to do that), he would play it the way the judges or examiners would want to hear it, but i do prefer kempff's version of it this piece
You are the most stupid person I know. Barenboim is one of the greatest alive pianists. What exam, maybe a big competition like A.Rubinstein comp. or Tchaikovsky, not an exam. And Beethoven is one of the deepest composers, the interpretation is needed without any discussion.
@OriginalBasaliskos Strength in numbers. I can't believe we're even having this conversation. When you get to Barenboims level, who's to argue. You talk like you have in fact heard Beethoven himself play this piece. Have you? No. So you therefore have absolutely no idea what it sounded like when he played and have been given as much information as the rest of us in the way of the score. If every pianist in the world were to play a specific piece at the same tempo, with the same dynamics etc,
@mrpolaroid123 It never ceases to amaze me what idiots comment on piano videos. I merely said I /preferred/ it to be played a certain way. Jesus Christ. You people will pick any comment that you don't agree with apart and always say the same things..."so and so is the greatest and no one can touch them..." "did you hear the composer himself play it?" I never said anything about it /having/ to be played a certain way. People with their straw men never cease to amaze me.
@mrpolaroid123 That doesn't make me a hypocrite. I said your statement was wrong, not the interpretation or a certain preference was wrong. Someone should work on their reading comprehension skills.
@OriginalBasaliskos wouldn't it all become a little boring? Yes. This brings me back to my first point. The point that 20 other people happened to agree with. So go away, open your mind and be grateful that not every recording of this piece, as you don't like it, is like Barenboims!
Wonderful! Great timing, pacing, this whole creation of 'space'! But Kempf get deeper - and more spontaneous - into the sheer poetry of this miracle by Beethoven. Another superb perfomance is of Chuquisengo, another great latin american performer!!.
Kempff's and Barenboim's interpretations just can't be compared. They both are very well played. But if someone asks for my opinion, I like Kempff better. But yeah, these interpretations can't be compared.
tempest sonata is not op 32 n 2 but op 31 n 2, sonata 17. title is wrong and the piece played in this video until 1:12 is not 3rd moviment of sonata tempest, but 2nd.
Barenboim can play the piano quite well, but just listen to any masterclass that he does. His manner is intimidating, and he is often condescending to the participants. He is not encouraging at all.
Lol. People always engaged in such silly debates about which performance is "better". I wouldn't dare say "better," but my I prefer the interpretation of Idil Biret on this sonata, and she was a student of Kempff and worked on the sonatas with him. She is the only one, I feel, that does the second movement justice, as well as the third.
OriginalBasaliskos 3 weeks ago
80.000 euros the price of Baremboim at the first of SCALA DI MILANO. O.o
pianistinblues 1 month ago
@pianistinblues It's not too much if you think what Lady Gaga today can earn with a single! And Baremboim si a true musician! Sorry for my English.
umbyronco85 1 month ago
@umbyronco85 yes its true if you compare he than ladygaga, i think lady gaga earn more with a single, but he spoke about " economic crisis , i don't know if he can spoke about it.
pianistinblues 1 month ago
now this was a rare thing that the audience didn't start clapping right when he played the last note..
8microspace 2 months ago
bardzo swietnie!!!!!!
fortepiano11 3 months ago
no such thing mrpolaroid. This is Beethoven, no interpretations are aloud here. He constantly changes the speed ...... this is catastrophic.... and he slows the speed very ugly.... however you can like it, no doubt abut that. Just if he goes on an exam with this one he will fail or pass with the big E.
sashkoo89 3 months ago
@sashkoo89 Well......if music is only limited by stiff and meaningless rules and loses its intrinsic meaning of touching people and as an auditory art.......what is left then?
bslaozora 3 months ago
@sashkoo89 There are 2 people in our brain when we play the piano. One is the scientist, who thinks "This should be played louder, smaller, faster, slower". The other is the artist, who plays by heart and plays freely emotionally.
lhrmeonom 2 months ago
@sashkoo89 i'm pretty sure if he DID go out on an exam with this one (though i don't see any possible circumstance where he would have to do that), he would play it the way the judges or examiners would want to hear it, but i do prefer kempff's version of it this piece
schnisha95 2 months ago
@sashkoo89 says the person who spells allowed "aloud"
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@sashkoo89
You are the most stupid person I know. Barenboim is one of the greatest alive pianists. What exam, maybe a big competition like A.Rubinstein comp. or Tchaikovsky, not an exam. And Beethoven is one of the deepest composers, the interpretation is needed without any discussion.
NewRachmaninoff 1 month ago
@sashkoo89 I think exams is the the last thing Barenboim is concerned with. It's called artistic licence, and he's entitled to it.
mrpolaroid123 3 weeks ago
@sashkoo89 LOL you clearly know nothing about piano performance.
PianoMan6302 4 days ago
Bloom effect? The music is radiant as it is... silly editing.
blendingbone 4 months ago
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Music= Interpretation. There is no right or wrong. Just preferred performances.
mrpolaroid123 5 months ago
Music= Interpretation. There is no right or wrong. Just preferred performances.
mrpolaroid123 5 months ago 26
@mrpolaroid123 Wrong. Especially when it comes to certain eras of music, and the annotations as well as the intentions of the composer.
OriginalBasaliskos 3 weeks ago
@OriginalBasaliskos 20 people disagree with you.
mrpolaroid123 3 weeks ago
@mrpolaroid123 ad populum?
OriginalBasaliskos 3 weeks ago
@OriginalBasaliskos Strength in numbers. I can't believe we're even having this conversation. When you get to Barenboims level, who's to argue. You talk like you have in fact heard Beethoven himself play this piece. Have you? No. So you therefore have absolutely no idea what it sounded like when he played and have been given as much information as the rest of us in the way of the score. If every pianist in the world were to play a specific piece at the same tempo, with the same dynamics etc,
mrpolaroid123 3 weeks ago
@mrpolaroid123 It never ceases to amaze me what idiots comment on piano videos. I merely said I /preferred/ it to be played a certain way. Jesus Christ. You people will pick any comment that you don't agree with apart and always say the same things..."so and so is the greatest and no one can touch them..." "did you hear the composer himself play it?" I never said anything about it /having/ to be played a certain way. People with their straw men never cease to amaze me.
OriginalBasaliskos 2 weeks ago
@OriginalBasaliskos I'm glad you got that out your system.
mrpolaroid123 2 weeks ago
@mrpolaroid123 Me too. Idiots are insufferable.
OriginalBasaliskos 2 weeks ago
@OriginalBasaliskos However in response to your previous comment, it was you who piped up 'Wrong' etc etc.
Hypocrites are insufferable.
mrpolaroid123 2 weeks ago
@mrpolaroid123 That doesn't make me a hypocrite. I said your statement was wrong, not the interpretation or a certain preference was wrong. Someone should work on their reading comprehension skills.
OriginalBasaliskos 1 day ago
@OriginalBasaliskos wouldn't it all become a little boring? Yes. This brings me back to my first point. The point that 20 other people happened to agree with. So go away, open your mind and be grateful that not every recording of this piece, as you don't like it, is like Barenboims!
mrpolaroid123 3 weeks ago
Wonderful! Great timing, pacing, this whole creation of 'space'! But Kempf get deeper - and more spontaneous - into the sheer poetry of this miracle by Beethoven. Another superb perfomance is of Chuquisengo, another great latin american performer!!.
akroasis10 5 months ago
Kempff's version is so much better. So much more flowing and lyrical and and passionate otherwordly.
sheebshag 5 months ago
Wow
NYGHIPAD 5 months ago
Instead of fighting to decide who's better, why don't you take your own conclusions and enjoy the music?
Both Kempff and Barenboim are awesome musicians.
feanor22 5 months ago
@feanor22
No don't nor do.
The thinking comes up to the mind naturally without being censored.
We, everyone enjoys the music, and each has different thought in mind.
VietFiddle 5 months ago
Kempff's and Barenboim's interpretations just can't be compared. They both are very well played. But if someone asks for my opinion, I like Kempff better. But yeah, these interpretations can't be compared.
artursm4 6 months ago
tempest sonata is not op 32 n 2 but op 31 n 2, sonata 17. title is wrong and the piece played in this video until 1:12 is not 3rd moviment of sonata tempest, but 2nd.
MrSerpico87 7 months ago 20
very articulate, truly living (if not eventually almost dying ^__^)
a lot of emotion and precision in those fingers (wow!)
by moments so amazing (4:07, 5:05)
unfortunately no "tempest thread" throughout. ;..|
well mastered, no comparison to kempff though.
Ieadersheep 9 months ago
not the best interpretation.
Desmonddd2002 9 months ago
@Desmonddd2002 what dick are u saying ? it s the best interpretation
MrSerpico87 7 months ago
Barenboim can play the piano quite well, but just listen to any masterclass that he does. His manner is intimidating, and he is often condescending to the participants. He is not encouraging at all.
DainGerrUsss 9 months ago
@DainGerrUsss intimidating??? consdescending??? He is popular, near to the participants! Bruno gelber is intimidating and consdescending!!
IntelRyMSACorporatio 6 months ago
why does he play so jerky?Like at 7:40. Like technique is getting in the way of Rhythmic playing? Or is it his way or trying to be musical?
davidbaker03 9 months ago
If death struck me right now, I'd die a perfectly happy man!
seculis 10 months ago
amazing.
imagineandinquire 10 months ago
wonderful *_*
KitsunesClovers 1 year ago
Bravo. love the tempest sonata. Just ordered the dvd which contains all the Beethoven sonatas by Barenboim. Can't wait till it arrives.
ik107 1 year ago
this isnt the third movement.
ntianx3 1 year ago
@ntianx3 Third movement starts at 1:10
airtz 1 year ago