Who: Political Music Video Anarchist

[stevesanterre]

OWS

[TemujinBC]

Who'd paint yellow lines down the middle of the street??? Heheheh great line, great song.

[akaslex]

I love this song! It's a great Anarchist anthem : )

[spacerconrad]

Money, first and foremost, is a medium of communication, conveying the information we call "price". Government control of the money supply is censorship, a violation of the First Amendment. Inflation, ninety-nine times out of a hundred, is a government lie.

—L. Neil Smith

[spacerconrad]

@GOTI

One of the major planks of the communist manifesto was central control of banks and the money supply. Sorry, but so long as that's the case, there's no free market. You can have an organization providing valuation and minting/printing services, as well as quality control and/or counterfeit protection, but a government run Bank (even if it's considered "private" like in the US) actively oppressing competitors is anathema to freedom.

[libertarianjury]

You can't have anarchy without capitalism! What, is someone going to coercively stop someone else from amassing capital? That would be a government, then. Capitalism =/= corporatism.

[ratrat48]

i want to download this and add it to my music library, can you make that a possibility?

[NYanarchy08]

Nice vid, but it's a little strange to see an anarchist video focusing entirely on the government without mentioning the need to overthrow capitalism too. It makes it sound a bit more libertarian than actually anarchist.

[phinc]

@NYanarchy08 You're right.

I wrote this before I really understood that connection.

[violentrainX]

@NYanarchy08 You can still have capitalism in an anarchist society. Laissez Faire. Anarcho-Capitalism is just as impossible as any anarchy, nonetheless.

[spacerconrad]

@NYanarchy08

The problem with that idea is that capitalism is a system. It isn't really. What needs to be overthrown is the government-induced corruption rampant in a merchantilist/corporatist-dist­orted market.

Capitalism is merely the practice of placing value on goods and services, usually with a means to symbolize those things. Unfortunately, with the government-protected corporate setup, free market capitalism is not allowed to even exist.

[hexzerg2]

@NYanarchy08 Well with anarchism then how could you have socialism? That requires a government. True anarchy would result in capitalism if you think about it because people would be able to trade freely.

[LogisticEarth]

Yeah, Rothbard > Chomsky. There's a good deal of libertarian literature supporting anarchy. Rothbard/Anarcho-Capitalism is much better than Chomsky/Anarcho-syndicalism.

That said libertarianism can come in anarchic and minarchist flavors.

[GodOfTheInternets]

@LogisticEarth

Except that laissez-faire capitalism is etremely exploitative, supports minority rule, is elitist, steals the fruits of the workers labour, causes unemployment, claims we were born to compete with one another, often comes in totalitarian form, anarcho-capitalism not being anarchism at all but just privatized governments. But yeah Vulgair Libertarianism > Genuine Libertarianism. Douche.

[schlaflosig]

@GodOfTheInternets Oh, I thought unemployment was caused by socialists with their stupid minimum wages laws and "social security" and high taxes.

[GodOfTheInternets]

@schlaflosig

Well it isn't, during Chile's military dictatorship the government abolished minimum wages and social security and what happened? Oh right, wages dropped radically and unemployment rose radically. Chile's unemployment rate rose by 17% in the first few years and then by another 10% around 1980... 30% unemployment rate under the most modern example of laissez-faire capitalism... Hooray! Also, libertarian socialism abolishes taxes, laws and government.

[schlaflosig]

@GodOfTheInternets The most recent example of laissez-faire capitalism is Hong Kong and Singapore, not Pinochet's Chile. Their respective levels of unemployment are (~4% in HK and ~2% in Singapore with the most free labor code in the world). Compare that to other countries like Sweden or Greece.

"Also, libertarian socialism abolishes taxes, laws and government." As a libertarian myself, I sympathize with that.

[GodOfTheInternets]

@schlaflosig

Oh... Hong Kong? That "country" that has NO private property you mean? Where nearly 50% of tax revenue goes to social security? The country that nationalized its banks in the 1980s? Right... Sweden doesn't even have a minimum wage! Nauru has no minimum wage either and unemployment is 90%. Djibouti unemployment is 60% and has no minimum wage. Macedonia no minimum wage, unemployment ~30%. Guineau no minimum wage, unempl. 30%...

[schlaflosig]

@GodOfTheInternets You gotta be kidding. Yeah, that Hong Kong. The country with government spending only 14.5% of the GDP (whereas average rates are >30-40% of GDP) There is a lot of private property in HK. The banks are private.

As for minimum wage, that's not the only reason. The reason is government involvement in the economy. Yes, a country might not have minimum wages, but it can have high taxes, high social security, restrictive labor code, high government spending and etc.

[GodOfTheInternets]

@schlaflosig

Sure, there are countries that have no minimum wage and very low unemployment (Liechtenstein, Qatar, Bahrein) but UAE has no minimum wage and unemployment is 12% whilst being from the same region as the latter two.

[GodOfTheInternets]

@schlaflosig

20-30% unemployment rate under laissez-faire capitalism in Chile... Whilst merely 3,8% unemployment rate under socialist Allende. Now which system causes unemployment again?

[spacerconrad]

@GodOfTheInternets

I'd say those numbers are highly suspect. First, does Chile *truly* enjoy a free market? People frequently mistake the US corporatist/fascist market as being laissez-faire, but that's no more true than Che was a freedom fighter (he was a brutal mass murderer, by the way). A Socialist country can claim whatever they want. With central control, they can claim employment for *everyone* regardless of whether they actually produce anything.

[GodOfTheInternets]

@spacerconrad

Chile didn't have any tariffs, no price controls, no wage controls, a complete free market except for money (central bank). So yeah, it was a free market.

Chile was not socialist yet and there is no reason that I know of to doubt the gov't lying about the 3% rate (i don't know of any academic work denying this rate).

(Yeah I took Che's poster from my wall a while ago, he was a fucking Stalinist prick)

Central control of the economy is often not socialist in nature.

[hungrylumberjack]

Is there somewhere I can download this? Perhaps donate to the artist?

[xmanningx]

who is this?

[phinc]

Matt Ames

[DoodiePunk]

ABSOLUTELY TRUE

[diabolicalANARCHY]

1:25 fuck u im gonna smoke that weed anyway duchefuck

[Nicholai420]

I love it, we need more content like this

[Zao125]

libertarianism is just anarchy for rich people

[robison100]

and ignorance is just bliss.

[Zao125]

you know i was just kidding...

[phinc]

I thought your comment was funny.

[ccodling]

What about socialist libertarianism?

[CrawdaddyJoe]

Anarchism? It rocks.

[BoscoWins]

Libertarianism isn't anarchy. I read the philosophies, and they condemned anarchy.

[ccodling]

@BoscoWins Well you evidently haven't read any left libertarian or libertarian socialist literature then! Those terms are often used as synonyms to anarcho-communism, socialist anarchy and other similar forms of anarchism! The most famous anarchist writer alive today would be Noam Chomsky, he also refers to himself as a libertarian socialist.

[BoscoWins]

Straight up Libertarianism, from what I read, is not Anarchy.

[ccodling]

Hi BoscoWins, I'm not saying they're the same thing mate just that they're not mutually exclusive. Like I say many left libertarians are also anarchists but that's not to say that some libertarian writers, both right and left, haven't condemned anarchism favoring a "minarchist" system, ie. small government as opposed to no government

[cclodfe]

@BoscoWins

You need to read libertarian economist Murray Rothbard then.

[chollonerd]

WHO?

[ajsowala85]

This is by Matt Ames

[dickbtowers]

So I'm not the only one who sees the misuse of power by the government officals.

[Gobiniu]

No, and there are more and more of us. BTW misuse is still pretty weak word: )

[KenCat1337]

VIVA LIBERTAD!

[Eskit99]

That was fun (and true!)

[zootdroop]

sounds like the Modern Lovers

[Eternaverse]

This is great!

[mbbrown30]

Nice. This encapsulates my feelings exactly. Let's get back to our roots.

[split132]

great song dude! is there anywhere i can download this?

[voteDRNO]

CUNDC

[billyjournell]

well done, my friend- you rock.

[phinc]

'Who' is the name of the song.

And thanks!

[wilburjr]

I liked it. Please view searchword wilburjr-thanks.

[CausticDuff]

Good stuff mang

[phinc]

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[greves1]

Yeah!  Awesome!

[dantescritic]

Very well done. ANARCHY!