And yet their new books add nothing new ... they just attack the the fact that Jesus is who He (and the Bible) says He is ... and both revert back to the old form of 'religion' which convinces people the way into Heaven can somehow be 'earned' through good works or deeds (or killing Jews and Christians)
Corinthians 12:2, I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the third heaven. Whether it was in the body or out of the body I do not know,God knows.
Notice how John briefly explains the levels of heaven. I believe God did not divulge too much information about this truth, because God knew that The Restored Gospel would not be on the planet until after The United States was formed.
No other time in History could Christ's True Restored Church have survived on earth other than after 1776.
Any other place, or any other time, Joseph Smith would have been murdered on the spot. No questions asked, just dead. God knows these things:)
After the death of Jesus, many people spread the Gospel around the world. Many of them died. But they continued to spread the word regardless of the risk. Yet their deaths wee not in vain. The word was remembered and spread. Why are there many deaths, yet God want Smith to live?
"For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive the things DONE IN THE BODY, according to what He has done, whether good or bad." (2 Corinthians 5:10)
"... and each one will receive His own reward ACCORDING TO HIS OWN LABOR." (1 Corinthians 3:8)
These brave men of God that you speak of, will have the opportunity to reach Celestial Glory, which is one of the reasons we baptize the dead.
What is the point of the book of mormon? Everything was fulfilled in Jesus. The book of mormon has no use. Our sins were forgiven with Jesus and his life is a blueprint on how we should live.
@alexrad1 ... Matthew 18:16 But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established. The book of Mormon is a second witness that Jesus is the Messiah.
@alexrad1 ... Also read Ezekiel 37:15 ¶ The word of the LORD came again unto me, saying,
16 Moreover, thou son of man, take thee one stick, and write upon it, For Judah, and for the children of Israel his companions: then take another stick, and write upon it, For Joseph, the stick of Ephraim, and for all the house of Israel his companions:
17 And join them one to another into one stick; and they shall become one in thine hand.
It is obvious because, Matt 24:11 says, And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
The fact that Joseph Smith found gold plates and translated it sounds ridiculous. God did not need to expand the more knowledge of the world pass the bible. Joseph Smith claims the angels gave them new revelations because the Jews and the Christians have changed the Bible (yet they never show us what passages they claim have been changed) ...
There are many false prophets. Look at all the different Churches there are. Many can't even agree on what God really is!
One of the rules to a person being a true Prophet is that they will make miracles. The Book of Mormon is one of these miracles. The Word of Wisdom is another. The list goes on and on.
God took the plates away from Joseph, because if he would have left the plates here on earth, it would be too much of a piece of evidence. Only the SPIRIT can convert
Actually Satan can use such "miracles" to deceive people. Just because you perform miracles, doesn't make you a prophet. In the book of Revelation there is a beast that performs miraculous signs in order to deceive people. (Rev. 11)As of different churches, I agree that this has caused problems within learning the word of God. I believe that certain traditions excluded from the bible are not nessessary. Thats why I am a Christian, afollower of God. Not a Catholic, or Protestant simply Christian
The bible says that Satan rules the world.. Don't you think that the people even Christian people can be deceived? Pope Urban II did not only start the crusade for Holy land, but for also increasing wealth, knowledge, and killing people. That isn't God's teachings. People can be deceived anywhere, that is why God has created the bible, to help people who are lost in deception. The reason why the old and new testament are together is because they are both the word of God.
I absolutely agree with you. The Bible is most defenitely God's word, but God warns about "FALSE PROPHETS"
If he says there will be false prophets, than we must assume that there will be TRUE Prophets. Especially in these Latter days. If our Presidents are not Prophets, than where are all these Prophets God talks about?
There are stict laws that a Prophet must adhere to,or he is a false prophet
Joseph Smith fullfilled every requirement of a True Prophet, as does every President thereafter
And yet their new books add nothing new ... they just attack the the fact that Jesus is who He (and the Bible) says He is ... and both revert back to the old form of 'religion' which convinces people the way into Heaven can somehow be 'earned' through good works or deeds (or killing Jews and Christians)
mangoboy101 2 years ago
Maybe God knew that the plates would get stolen. Maybe he knew that Joseph would become too popular. Who knows?
I do know that nowhere in The Bible does it talk about first finding EVIDENCE before you can recieve the truth.YOU MUST PRAY.
Of course Book of Mormon doesn't add anything new.God doesn't change.
We don't believe that WORKS will get you into heaven.Who told you that?
We do believe that there are three levels of heaven.Don't you think he would tell us how to get to the top?
brian8793 2 years ago
Levels of heaven? Why were there be different levels for people of God? Doesn't God see his children as equals?
And can you please enlighten me no your Archaeological proof?
And your thoughts on multiple wives?
mangoboy101 2 years ago
Corinthians 12:2, I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the third heaven. Whether it was in the body or out of the body I do not know,God knows.
1 Corinthians 15:40-41
"There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another.
There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon,and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory."
brian8793 2 years ago
Notice how John briefly explains the levels of heaven. I believe God did not divulge too much information about this truth, because God knew that The Restored Gospel would not be on the planet until after The United States was formed.
No other time in History could Christ's True Restored Church have survived on earth other than after 1776.
Any other place, or any other time, Joseph Smith would have been murdered on the spot. No questions asked, just dead. God knows these things:)
brian8793 2 years ago
After the death of Jesus, many people spread the Gospel around the world. Many of them died. But they continued to spread the word regardless of the risk. Yet their deaths wee not in vain. The word was remembered and spread. Why are there many deaths, yet God want Smith to live?
mangoboy101 2 years ago
Those men/womens deaths were not in vain.
"For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive the things DONE IN THE BODY, according to what He has done, whether good or bad." (2 Corinthians 5:10)
"... and each one will receive His own reward ACCORDING TO HIS OWN LABOR." (1 Corinthians 3:8)
These brave men of God that you speak of, will have the opportunity to reach Celestial Glory, which is one of the reasons we baptize the dead.
brian8793 2 years ago
What is the point of the book of mormon? Everything was fulfilled in Jesus. The book of mormon has no use. Our sins were forgiven with Jesus and his life is a blueprint on how we should live.
alexrad1 2 years ago 2
@alexrad1 ... Matthew 18:16 But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established. The book of Mormon is a second witness that Jesus is the Messiah.
CTR831 1 year ago
@alexrad1 ... Also read Ezekiel 37:15 ¶ The word of the LORD came again unto me, saying,
16 Moreover, thou son of man, take thee one stick, and write upon it, For Judah, and for the children of Israel his companions: then take another stick, and write upon it, For Joseph, the stick of Ephraim, and for all the house of Israel his companions:
17 And join them one to another into one stick; and they shall become one in thine hand.
CTR831 1 year ago
NOPESKY!
Joseph Smith is dead now and was but a humble Prophet. Jesus Christ is the head of our Church.
Always has been, always will be:)
PEACE!
brian8793 2 years ago
srry but he was a false one... Blasphemy
mangoboy101 2 years ago
How was he a False Prophet?
Please, enlighten us so that I may put your lies to shame......
brian8793 2 years ago
It is obvious because, Matt 24:11 says, And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
The fact that Joseph Smith found gold plates and translated it sounds ridiculous. God did not need to expand the more knowledge of the world pass the bible. Joseph Smith claims the angels gave them new revelations because the Jews and the Christians have changed the Bible (yet they never show us what passages they claim have been changed) ...
mangoboy101 2 years ago
There are many false prophets. Look at all the different Churches there are. Many can't even agree on what God really is!
One of the rules to a person being a true Prophet is that they will make miracles. The Book of Mormon is one of these miracles. The Word of Wisdom is another. The list goes on and on.
God took the plates away from Joseph, because if he would have left the plates here on earth, it would be too much of a piece of evidence. Only the SPIRIT can convert
brian8793 2 years ago
Actually Satan can use such "miracles" to deceive people. Just because you perform miracles, doesn't make you a prophet. In the book of Revelation there is a beast that performs miraculous signs in order to deceive people. (Rev. 11)As of different churches, I agree that this has caused problems within learning the word of God. I believe that certain traditions excluded from the bible are not nessessary. Thats why I am a Christian, afollower of God. Not a Catholic, or Protestant simply Christian
mangoboy101 2 years ago
Satan? Do you think our Church leaders, and our members are guided by Satan?
Also, in Ephesians 4:5 it talks about ONE FAITH, ONE LORD, ONE BAPTISM.
He also tells us how we will know a true follower of Christ:
Either make the tree good,and his fruit good;or else make the tree corrupt,and his fruit corrupt: for the tree is known by his fruit.
I agree the antichrist will perform miracles,and there is defenitely a beautiful side to evil.
However brother,I assure you it's not This Church:)
brian8793 2 years ago
The bible says that Satan rules the world.. Don't you think that the people even Christian people can be deceived? Pope Urban II did not only start the crusade for Holy land, but for also increasing wealth, knowledge, and killing people. That isn't God's teachings. People can be deceived anywhere, that is why God has created the bible, to help people who are lost in deception. The reason why the old and new testament are together is because they are both the word of God.
mangoboy101 2 years ago
I absolutely agree with you. The Bible is most defenitely God's word, but God warns about "FALSE PROPHETS"
If he says there will be false prophets, than we must assume that there will be TRUE Prophets. Especially in these Latter days. If our Presidents are not Prophets, than where are all these Prophets God talks about?
There are stict laws that a Prophet must adhere to,or he is a false prophet
Joseph Smith fullfilled every requirement of a True Prophet, as does every President thereafter
brian8793 2 years ago
What specifically does Smith show as proof? And how can you know it is true?
The bible has been created by a series of people oer the years, yet it is consistant.
mangoboy101 2 years ago
CULT!!!!
michaelthespartan 2 years ago 2
Hey, but who would you rather run a cult than Jesus himself?
brian8793 2 years ago
To bad its not jesus who runs your cult. Its joseph smith:S
alexrad1 2 years ago
Do you think just saying something makes it true? You have no shame do you? Just blatently lie about someone for the entire world to see?
Christ runs our Church. You show me a line in any of our scripture that says Joseph Smith, THE MARTYR, runs our Church.
Is it called The Church of JOSEPH SMITH of Latter Day Saints?
brian8793 2 years ago
LOL !
Our kids in the primary should try this too !
thx for the vid
woodentengu 2 years ago
I love seeing the primary learn how to share the gospel of Jesus Christ. Thank you German Saints.
omiolo1 3 years ago 2