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These ideas belong to Marx. "Ideal world" it is impossible to be realized. This movie is a great truth and a big lie at the same time. The film is not clear what happens to those who can not be integrated into this system. Will be eliminated? First will be a new Holocaust? It is a diabolical movie.... THIS IS MY OPINION. This clip is big bullshet.
Yep. But i don't think only the average American was being manipulated. In fact the whole world has been, with various degree. Since the zionist (working along with the Windsor family & the Vatican) has strong influence & infiltrated heavily in US; using it as the central point to launch their covet operatioins in order to achieve their goals. US was therefore well under their control all along. The very fact that there were so many US presidents or politicans being assassinated said enough.
For those who like to be brainwashed by the evil and yet very cunning manipulative rulers of the west. Here is a little history on Communism that your so called independent media will never tell you:
A committee (funded by Rothschild) head by Clinton Roosevelt (look up on FDR family tree) & a few newspaper publishers including Horace Greeley (owner of New York Tribune) directed the Communist League in London to assist the publication of Karl Marx's Communist Manifesto (1848).
Monetary (base on debt) system as the only possible solution - disagree.
Communism was merely one of the "secret weapons" used by "the real owner" of the so called "democratic" nation or nations. They used that (like many other weapons they have) as a tool to break down societies, religions, national borders and terrify the world into wars & revolutions. Those follow on such ideology was merely led to believe they were changing the corrupt system they had & made better for their countries.
God help us from this generation of video game-playing losers who need a pipe dream to substitute their fear from working. Girls despise guys who are afraid to bring home the bacon. Girls hate guys with no ambition. Losers. No cash, no pussy! Communist fags.
Those that prefer to think with our brains are much happier with girls that love us for who we are rather than how much cash we have. Luckily you seem to be driven by a much lower positioned organ and are happy for any female attention, regardless of their motive.
I watched both Zeitgeist movies...and I found them very funny and entertaining...Very good storylines for videogames...Actually Metal Gear Solid had a similar "men behind curtains" theory..BUT I do agree and like the part where they talk about the alternative energy and how money runs everything, I already believed that money ruins everything and I hated it before I even seen these movies OVERALL IT SEEMS LIKE TYLER DURDEN WROTE, DIRECTED, AND NARRATED THESE PROPAGANDA-LIKE MOVIES LOL...
Does anyone know of a forum or chat room where i can go and talk to other people who are actually ready to start building or planning to build a new society? zeitgeistmovementcom isnt ready yet, im tired of waiting for it
If this isnt the final solution to the actual problem, at least its an option. If all the people who consider themselves free-thinkers, or feel awakened by this movie, can really think by themselves... why dont each of us think of a different option appart from that Zeigeist Addendum offers? It would be good to hear about new ways of solving all these.
because this is as good as a plan as we have had yet (the resource based economy) and with 35000 kids dieing every day (that we can prevent) its time to just pick something and fucking go with it. comming up with other plans, argueing over this one is better then that one, is just wasting VERY valuable time. lets all contribute to the venus project, then we can all try to improve upon it, for that is the entire idea of the venus project
what will happen to those people that does not want this kind of world order? what will happen to those people that are not willing to giveup their ownership of ther land of there precious metals etc. who are the ones that is going to make decisions in this order? because those people or organization that is going to be in control are going to have so much power unrivaled to anything before it... not answerable to anyone and what they plan to do whether good or bad no one on earth can stop them
it will be a very long transition, eventually reachable as the people will realize the mistakes of current societies. i don't think one day they'll completeky change everything but it will be a very long trend, more likely longer than our lives.
I agree - it's all about heading toward implementing a 'true' education of each new generation, covering all aspects of human life, not just the ones that serve the restricted, fascist, fear-mongering, greed-controlled societies we're forced to exist in. Most of our behaviour is learned and goes unquestioned by people who are too blind, lazy, ignorant or uneducated to do any research or step outside the boundary.
Most of this seems to be logical, but I think that they are making the another system and it is done by masons and iluminati - reason the all seeing eye is the symbol. then in two places where back of dollar where the pyramid was showen and I think that we have to choose that man was right in the end that we are teachers to ourselves etc. we choose and we should not choose this or that system but ethics and starting now by wishing pece and harmony to all...
I dunno... while I agree the monetary system is flawed, I do believe it gives an - albeit false - incentive to do something. For as long as there have been people, there have been incentives for doing something. Tribes trading arrow heads, tribes trading big rocks, children swapping football cards, etc... I just can't see anything else actually working. Maybe it would, maybe that's just been programmed into me, but I can see no other way of motivating someone to do something than an incentive.
Zyk0tiK, I agree with you about that. But one thing I think this video gets right, is that we must stop dependence on scarce resources like gasoline and start using ABUNDANT resources to sustain life. Regardless of incentive implications, we MUST change where we get our energy. Burning fossil fuels is relatively new to our species and turns out to be a VERY bad choice - NOT just b/c of global warming etc. but also because of scarcity, inefficiency, and LIMITLESS, SUPERIOR, SAFE alternatives.
If you think about, kids trading baseball cards is like our monetary system in a nutshell. a company puts out limited cards for a high price, and kids will always be franticlly plaicng themselves for trades with teh best cards. also what your saying is that before now men have traded becuase the scarcity of reasources. this movie completelt fleshs out how with the rise of technology there coulkd be the firt resourced based economy ever. if it will work, there is absolutly no way to tell.
unlike most of the viewers of zeitgeist. i've already seen and heard about the venus project before i've seen the two movies of zeitgest. in fact the venus project is what made me watch this movie. and i've not regret watching it. I have already grasped the concepts of jacque fresco from watching his documentaries. The video "in future by design" was available in youtube before, and now i think it was removed.
This is a most excellent movie series both 1 and 2 however it has a fatal flaw.This is relating to the inherant spiritual message it promotes. Here the authors are completely out of their depth. The universal truth which has been spoken of by all the Masters both male and female of our species is reduced to a very material perspective relating to the stars and the sun in their physical manifestation only.The inner splendour and workings of our conscious being are not even mentioned...pity. ....
for anyone who has gotten this far in the movie please message me, i have too just recently finished the movie and would like to discuss this and some issues i think they did not cover thoroughly
no doubt .. its kindof suprising how little people have seen this right through... I really liked this "Venus Project" idea... Its really not that far from the ideals of "True Communism"...
but im sure that even the most uneducated can figure that this state of world being is about to hit a wall...
The Internet was truely the begining of a global awareness amongst us..
I fear that the internet will soon become the target of intervention to enable them to monitor everything we do on it, in order to spot troublemakers ("terrorists" no doubt).
unfortunately, I believe that everything electronical that includes any kind of data is recorded and organized (I can't prove that, it is just an assumption)
I live in Japan and they just introduced the TASPO card... it is a government resister that all smokers must have in order to buy cigarettes out of vending machines (most popular way of obtaining cigarettes here!)
due to current status, im suprised this kind of info IS available online ( but greatful!)
to DaTokYOhuStLER it was an interesting idea but it sounds too good to be true and one part of the video said to outlaw all guns because of crime, but wouldn't they help against things like rape.......i don't know you live in japan right how does it work there i heard they don't allow guns
your right GigaZOmbie, it does sound too good to be true, but
monetary systems will be viewed in the future as primative. Technology will solve scarcity
I also agree with you that outlawing guns wouldnt solve anything.laws are irrelevant if the right education is implemented
The crime rate in Japan is low.I can leave a bag unattended in a shop for hours without anyone touching it.but japanese must be the most brainwashed people on the planet!
well hopefully this goal is attainable in our lifetime cause it does sound really nice.....although i think i'm getting ahead of myself since i'm not even old enough to vote yet
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hahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa :))))) that's the end of this stupid movie???
I will never throw my cross from my neck... This is the religion of my fathers and grandfathers who fought and died for people like you to be live and produce such BS in peace and wellfare...
damn ... this is absolutly amazing how STUPID it is ...
we are ultimate consciousness. religion, social set of value and the laws which corrupted politician imposes upon us eradicates our true natures.
by rejecting to obey social and political false norms and acceptable behaviour cut the chain off your eternal awareness and connect yourself to your source(eternal flow of consciousness and pure energy).
START THE BOYCOTT!!!
kaseem22 2 years ago
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These ideas belong to Marx. "Ideal world" it is impossible to be realized. This movie is a great truth and a big lie at the same time. The film is not clear what happens to those who can not be integrated into this system. Will be eliminated? First will be a new Holocaust? It is a diabolical movie.... THIS IS MY OPINION. This clip is big bullshet.
maris1980us 2 years ago
U dont need proof to know that the almighty is around u and watching over us all. u certainly dont need scientific proof to feel his holy spirit.
robertchan808 3 years ago
that is a very creepy feeling. if god is watching me he should be put on the sex offender list.
ecoherbalism 2 years ago
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May God help us and protect us all.Amen
robertchan808 3 years ago
That's the problem. You're still hiding. God can't help us. Polititions can't help us. Technology can.
renoo27 2 years ago
Yep. But i don't think only the average American was being manipulated. In fact the whole world has been, with various degree. Since the zionist (working along with the Windsor family & the Vatican) has strong influence & infiltrated heavily in US; using it as the central point to launch their covet operatioins in order to achieve their goals. US was therefore well under their control all along. The very fact that there were so many US presidents or politicans being assassinated said enough.
usletterbox 3 years ago
For those who like to be brainwashed by the evil and yet very cunning manipulative rulers of the west. Here is a little history on Communism that your so called independent media will never tell you:
A committee (funded by Rothschild) head by Clinton Roosevelt (look up on FDR family tree) & a few newspaper publishers including Horace Greeley (owner of New York Tribune) directed the Communist League in London to assist the publication of Karl Marx's Communist Manifesto (1848).
usletterbox 3 years ago
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humanumgenus 3 years ago
2. THE MAIN POINT IS THAT AGGRESSION AND GREED FORMS THE NATURE OF STRONG PEOPLE WHO RULE THIS WORLD.
This will never change.
We can only try to make this world a little better by being better ourselves.
Alex1SUN 3 years ago
What CAUSES the greed though? Money.
We've never lived in a world like that, so we can't imgine it. But without money, there'd be no reason to be greedy.
renoo27 2 years ago
1. Good description of the monetary system.
But unfortunately this system is the only possible one.
People tried to build Venus-like projects hundreds of times.
Both locally and globally.
Some efforts were partially successful.
Communism and socialism were among them (yes, the beginning ideas of those ideologies were similar to Venus project).
But in the end all failed.
Alex1SUN 3 years ago
Monetary (base on debt) system as the only possible solution - disagree.
Communism was merely one of the "secret weapons" used by "the real owner" of the so called "democratic" nation or nations. They used that (like many other weapons they have) as a tool to break down societies, religions, national borders and terrify the world into wars & revolutions. Those follow on such ideology was merely led to believe they were changing the corrupt system they had & made better for their countries.
usletterbox 3 years ago
God help us from this generation of video game-playing losers who need a pipe dream to substitute their fear from working. Girls despise guys who are afraid to bring home the bacon. Girls hate guys with no ambition. Losers. No cash, no pussy! Communist fags.
SteiniEinars 3 years ago
Those that prefer to think with our brains are much happier with girls that love us for who we are rather than how much cash we have. Luckily you seem to be driven by a much lower positioned organ and are happy for any female attention, regardless of their motive.
Good luck!
Meatdolly 3 years ago 3
I watched both Zeitgeist movies...and I found them very funny and entertaining...Very good storylines for videogames...Actually Metal Gear Solid had a similar "men behind curtains" theory..BUT I do agree and like the part where they talk about the alternative energy and how money runs everything, I already believed that money ruins everything and I hated it before I even seen these movies OVERALL IT SEEMS LIKE TYLER DURDEN WROTE, DIRECTED, AND NARRATED THESE PROPAGANDA-LIKE MOVIES LOL...
SUNand3stars 3 years ago
"Actually Metal Gear Solid had a similar "men behind curtains" theory."
Have you considered that MAYBE they had it right? What if you watched this first, then played the game. It was a serious game. Hideo knew his stuff.
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Does anyone know of a forum or chat room where i can go and talk to other people who are actually ready to start building or planning to build a new society? zeitgeistmovementcom isnt ready yet, im tired of waiting for it
CondemnedPatriot 3 years ago
If this isnt the final solution to the actual problem, at least its an option. If all the people who consider themselves free-thinkers, or feel awakened by this movie, can really think by themselves... why dont each of us think of a different option appart from that Zeigeist Addendum offers? It would be good to hear about new ways of solving all these.
ShinjiL 3 years ago
because this is as good as a plan as we have had yet (the resource based economy) and with 35000 kids dieing every day (that we can prevent) its time to just pick something and fucking go with it. comming up with other plans, argueing over this one is better then that one, is just wasting VERY valuable time. lets all contribute to the venus project, then we can all try to improve upon it, for that is the entire idea of the venus project
CondemnedPatriot 3 years ago 3
Hopefully when the money crises occurs, people will realize something's wrong.
renoo27 2 years ago
what will happen to those people that does not want this kind of world order? what will happen to those people that are not willing to giveup their ownership of ther land of there precious metals etc. who are the ones that is going to make decisions in this order? because those people or organization that is going to be in control are going to have so much power unrivaled to anything before it... not answerable to anyone and what they plan to do whether good or bad no one on earth can stop them
waleselon 3 years ago
it will be a very long transition, eventually reachable as the people will realize the mistakes of current societies. i don't think one day they'll completeky change everything but it will be a very long trend, more likely longer than our lives.
pabitoz 3 years ago
I agree - it's all about heading toward implementing a 'true' education of each new generation, covering all aspects of human life, not just the ones that serve the restricted, fascist, fear-mongering, greed-controlled societies we're forced to exist in. Most of our behaviour is learned and goes unquestioned by people who are too blind, lazy, ignorant or uneducated to do any research or step outside the boundary.
skeetarus 3 years ago
An other great movie exposing some truth. Great work!
WHITEWAPA 3 years ago
Why the hell is there a SIEMENS add in this movie?? 10 seconds and clearly edited in there??(if you didnt see it watch 1:02 untill 1:13)
Germsofjakarta 3 years ago 3
Most of this seems to be logical, but I think that they are making the another system and it is done by masons and iluminati - reason the all seeing eye is the symbol. then in two places where back of dollar where the pyramid was showen and I think that we have to choose that man was right in the end that we are teachers to ourselves etc. we choose and we should not choose this or that system but ethics and starting now by wishing pece and harmony to all...
pon4iks 3 years ago
I dunno... while I agree the monetary system is flawed, I do believe it gives an - albeit false - incentive to do something. For as long as there have been people, there have been incentives for doing something. Tribes trading arrow heads, tribes trading big rocks, children swapping football cards, etc... I just can't see anything else actually working. Maybe it would, maybe that's just been programmed into me, but I can see no other way of motivating someone to do something than an incentive.
Zyk0tiK 3 years ago
Zyk0tiK, I agree with you about that. But one thing I think this video gets right, is that we must stop dependence on scarce resources like gasoline and start using ABUNDANT resources to sustain life. Regardless of incentive implications, we MUST change where we get our energy. Burning fossil fuels is relatively new to our species and turns out to be a VERY bad choice - NOT just b/c of global warming etc. but also because of scarcity, inefficiency, and LIMITLESS, SUPERIOR, SAFE alternatives.
goldensleeves 3 years ago
If you think about, kids trading baseball cards is like our monetary system in a nutshell. a company puts out limited cards for a high price, and kids will always be franticlly plaicng themselves for trades with teh best cards. also what your saying is that before now men have traded becuase the scarcity of reasources. this movie completelt fleshs out how with the rise of technology there coulkd be the firt resourced based economy ever. if it will work, there is absolutly no way to tell.
TinyHutch 3 years ago
unlike most of the viewers of zeitgeist. i've already seen and heard about the venus project before i've seen the two movies of zeitgest. in fact the venus project is what made me watch this movie. and i've not regret watching it. I have already grasped the concepts of jacque fresco from watching his documentaries. The video "in future by design" was available in youtube before, and now i think it was removed.
grovestreet8 3 years ago
This is a most excellent movie series both 1 and 2 however it has a fatal flaw.This is relating to the inherant spiritual message it promotes. Here the authors are completely out of their depth. The universal truth which has been spoken of by all the Masters both male and female of our species is reduced to a very material perspective relating to the stars and the sun in their physical manifestation only.The inner splendour and workings of our conscious being are not even mentioned...pity. ....
aidencassidy77 3 years ago
for anyone who has gotten this far in the movie please message me, i have too just recently finished the movie and would like to discuss this and some issues i think they did not cover thoroughly
GigaZ0mbie 3 years ago
no doubt .. its kindof suprising how little people have seen this right through... I really liked this "Venus Project" idea... Its really not that far from the ideals of "True Communism"...
but im sure that even the most uneducated can figure that this state of world being is about to hit a wall...
The Internet was truely the begining of a global awareness amongst us..
What issues did you find unsatisfying>?
DaTokYOhuStLER 3 years ago
I fear that the internet will soon become the target of intervention to enable them to monitor everything we do on it, in order to spot troublemakers ("terrorists" no doubt).
elliotcastro 3 years ago
HAHAH...no doubt terriosts,
unfortunately, I believe that everything electronical that includes any kind of data is recorded and organized (I can't prove that, it is just an assumption)
I live in Japan and they just introduced the TASPO card... it is a government resister that all smokers must have in order to buy cigarettes out of vending machines (most popular way of obtaining cigarettes here!)
due to current status, im suprised this kind of info IS available online ( but greatful!)
DaTokYOhuStLER 3 years ago
to DaTokYOhuStLER it was an interesting idea but it sounds too good to be true and one part of the video said to outlaw all guns because of crime, but wouldn't they help against things like rape.......i don't know you live in japan right how does it work there i heard they don't allow guns
GigaZ0mbie 3 years ago
your right GigaZOmbie, it does sound too good to be true, but
monetary systems will be viewed in the future as primative. Technology will solve scarcity
I also agree with you that outlawing guns wouldnt solve anything.laws are irrelevant if the right education is implemented
The crime rate in Japan is low.I can leave a bag unattended in a shop for hours without anyone touching it.but japanese must be the most brainwashed people on the planet!
obtaining a gun is extremely difficult
DaTokYOhuStLER 3 years ago
well hopefully this goal is attainable in our lifetime cause it does sound really nice.....although i think i'm getting ahead of myself since i'm not even old enough to vote yet
GigaZ0mbie 3 years ago 2
"A shame so little people have seen this. "
DeadRain23 3 years ago 2
Amazing
crawfordviolin 3 years ago 2
its our job to spread the word
WallabeChamp 3 years ago
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hahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa :))))) that's the end of this stupid movie???
I will never throw my cross from my neck... This is the religion of my fathers and grandfathers who fought and died for people like you to be live and produce such BS in peace and wellfare...
damn ... this is absolutly amazing how STUPID it is ...
Opitzka 3 years ago
actually you are the one who is stupid and ignorant.I am 100 sure that you are wrong.
vova12 3 years ago
do a bit more research, you'll be even more amazed. and you may even take off the cross.
ErosTheGreat 3 years ago 2
thats the point. Its inherited knowledge. it divide you. You thnk you got the truth, the others dont. If you dont even understand that, its sad.
DideeKawaii 3 years ago
Thanks for educating us mentor. I'm in.
we are ultimate consciousness. religion, social set of value and the laws which corrupted politician imposes upon us eradicates our true natures.
by rejecting to obey social and political false norms and acceptable behaviour cut the chain off your eternal awareness and connect yourself to your source(eternal flow of consciousness and pure energy).
I recommend David Icke articles for more info.
fermisk 3 years ago
"A shame so little people have seen this."
BruLLLo 3 years ago
A shame so little people have seen this.
Pokerstud1 3 years ago
briliance. absolute briiance
fiserman357 3 years ago 2
its trully is
vova12 3 years ago