They deserved this,I'm just saying I'm a rocker,and of the course the hall of fame is missing lots of good people in that museum,but anyhow they did,shoot they did so much for hip hop and for music,seriously some of the true pioneers right here folks.
@xxxtobyx3 o yea i'm sure their right up there with sabbath, zep, deep purple, def lep, and so on. i never said that they arn't important to there genre but your defenition of rock and roll is all fucked up. that leave's me with the opinion that you are falling in to the same shit hole whoever compare's them with true rockers. if your opinion is so valid technically the why have'nt the hip hop or rap award inducted said rockers...or at least as a tribute to their contribution? smartass
Grandmaster flash & the furious five are well qualified as rock & roll inductees.. Grandmaster flash pioneered the artform of scratching.
The group sang ,harmonised & performed live in theatres parties & parks with turntables & mics way before being signed.. They also toured alongside bands like the Commodores & Rick james.
It's evident that G.M.F.F 5 were extremely influential if you look beyond the limited number of recordings they released. & examine the origins.
@dog1clear well many hip hop tracks have been built around sampling older rock tracks, That's the thing about the break beat generations music. The beats serve as a historical archive. It's probably the most appropriate type of tribute. I'm not saying that hip hop is rock. Just that old school hip hop is rock and roll (in a poetic sense) But in all technicality it does originate from rock, funk r&b and a number of other styles that intern are kin to rock and roll.
@xxxtobyx3 man i just think if you have to disect and break down a genre just to get it to fit into another then its to much work. it all sounds politicaly correct but ya wont hear these guys on any rock station in america.
yo I seen a interview wit LL back from 86 and he dissed melle mel talkin bout people dont want to hear that thats depressing anyone can rap about hardtimes now hes singing along thats funny????
damn melle still does his roid striping act, saw him not too long ago at crotona park concert and the fool started to do his body building poses, wtf?? lol
what is the mess going on with the performance? the dancers? hype men ruin the integrity of the song. Wtf? goin shirtless? classics dont need to do that.
You only get into the Hall of Fame for having hit records. Herc had none, so that's why he isn't in. Despite his innovations in DJing, Flash wouldn't be in the hall either if it wasn't for him getting credit on all of Melle Mel's hit records (like The Message, White Lines, Step Off, Pump Me Up, ect...) In fact, a lot of casual fans think Melle Mel IS Grandmaster Flash because they always see Mels face with Grandmaster flash's name on the records & videos.
Someone I used to work with a long time ago had the audacity to say that Elvis was a rapper...and he said and I quote "He ain't done nothin' different than what's bein' done today." What an absurd comment.Elvis had what's called musical talent, and he sang brilliantly along with having great musicians around him like Scotty Moore, D.J. Fontana just to name a few.Can (c)rappers claim the same thing? I don't think so.
Maybe you should do your homework before saying something stupid. In order to qualify for induction to the Hall of Fame an artist needs to be in the business at least 25 years.This is why musicians like Elvis, the Beatles,and Ray Charles just to name a few are there and not the "musician" you mentioned.See the difference?
I'm sure all of the homies in the hood are thrilled to have Grandmaster Flash in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.But the truth remains...this is NOT ROCK AND ROLL...and their tainted induction was set up by rockhall chairman Jann Wenner who really screwed the Dave Clark Five over getting in last year even though the DC5 won the induction voting.Rap has absolutely no business whatsoever in the rockhall.If they want their place in the hood, rap should have their own hall.Keep the rockhall pure.
OK loveclevelandohio, you racist Fuck. Dude not everyone in the R&R HOF is a rock musician. It's more of a music HOF. I agree that Hip Hop should have it's own HOF but these guys are Icons. Their music was social conscious and promoted education to one self to better yourself. They are positive people making positive music.
Rappers making positive music...that's a good one...dude. And dude, I am very well aware that the rockhall is not all rock musicians...some of the inductees are promoters, managers, side men, etc. and I'm OK with that.I don't even mind the fact that Motown artists are there...they sang and play actual instruments. To call rap and hip hop "music" is absurd.Thanks for the Racist Fuck compliment BTW.
Grow up man. Look up the definition of music and tell me if Hip Hop doesn't fit in. Don't be ignorant. Some people say Rock music is of the devil and it's all screaming and breaking but we know that's not true, so why you can't respect our craft. Don't be ignorant buddy.
racist fuck huh. the person gives an opinion on this hall of fame bullshit and he's a racist fuck. it aint a black or white thing. it's about a place in music history. rock is rock hip hop is hip hop two different forms of music. your the racist ignorant fuck
Dude who asked you? This dude is obviously not agreeing with their selection cuz it's Hip Hop and that bugs me. Just cuz you don't like the music it doesn't mean they don't deserve recognition. I don't like Elvis' but I respect his contribution to music. You and buddy just don't want to appreciate Hip Hop's contribution to music.
what contribution? hip hop should have it's own hall of fame. hip hop has it's place in it's contribution to music history also rap, but not in rock n roll. when you go to a music store and by music they have different selections rock rap hip hop country. it is what it is. i can see it now hip hop's first inductee is pink floyd. come on dude. by the way nobody has to ask me shit this is an open forum. no disrespect intended but lighten up dude.
@mordacity85: there is no one who sounds live as good as on record, for the simple fact of todays quality improvement via computer... the only one might have been whitney houston
idk thats a very subjective thing, yes maybe in rap where its mainly vocals over recorded beats for concerts it won't sound "good" but if you go see someone play music the improvising is the major draw to a concert and live vocals are only as good as the singer anyway. even rappers can freestyle over their beats if they want to, people might say that sounds good
Play, you are waaaaay off! Flash was the centerpiece of the group. He had many records and set the tone for most of their music. Without him there is no furious five! Real talk!
It feels good to know I believed in something, and I was right. I am an audiophile, I love all music. Around 1981, in Peoria, Illinois, I got into rap. Through it, I figured out who I was. And who others were. I left many of my hard rock "friends" behind, many joined with me. Music lovers who saw past the hatred of racism. We saw the similarities in things being written about in punk, heavy metal, and rap, not the differences in style of music or colors of skin.
In 81 i went to see flash&da5 in Da venue in Victoria SW1 London Uk Bad ass concert, we got down on the mic with them at the front of the stage. Same year i was bboyin. True UK OG in da place!!
Flash has become a legend by gettin' credit for records he wasn't even on. "White Lines", "The Message", ect..., Melle Mel is responsible for all their hits. Flash played no part, other than falsely taking credit. Phony dude is even callin' his autobiography "The Message". Flash's best skill is playin' other peoples records.
What??!!? You kidding me? Clearly you have no respect for foundation. Without "Phony dude" as you call him (not to mention the countless others who paved the way)we would not be here. That's like saying your grandparents aren't important, and that would be silly,because your mom or dad wouldn't be here, and neither would you. You follow ?
i called flash a phony dude for taking credit for records he wasn't even on like "White Lines" & "The Message". He played no part in either of those 2 tracks, yet he continues to try and exploit them to make money & build his fame by conning ignorant fools like you. flash callin' his new autobiography "the message" is as stupid as melle mel callin' his "the wheels of steel". i'll say it again. flash is a phony dude.
playserious is correct. grandmaster flash was responsible for bringing the famous five together because according what is writen, he needed some people to help take away attention from his dj-ing
Dat dude in the Army gear, he calls himself "muscles", is one cocky mo fo. I seen him on Rapcity and the guy was flexin in front of the camera every 10 seconds. So annoying. They asked him who his favourite rapper is and he goes "me".
"Dat Dude" is Melle Mel and oh I don't know if you were one of the originators of a style of music that now spans the globe and is a multi million dollar business and on top of that people rip your style and lyrics from time time to this very day you would probably think your shit don't stink a little too. But just a little
one love!
themrjangusta 10 months ago
wtf is fat joe doing there
zaantjedam123 1 year ago
WERE NOT WORTHYYYYYYYY!!!
MultiSinoda 1 year ago
i love him and his music is so amazing
MissFromMars 1 year ago
R.I.P. COWBOY
68skate68 1 year ago
where can i see the vid?
AMULDARRY 1 year ago
o kurwa
gapoa 1 year ago
Fat Joe's corny ass has no business onstage with these legends!
THEREALKING40 1 year ago 3
as the song is called
alvaroHHchileno 1 year ago
They deserved this,I'm just saying I'm a rocker,and of the course the hall of fame is missing lots of good people in that museum,but anyhow they did,shoot they did so much for hip hop and for music,seriously some of the true pioneers right here folks.
animal90sFreak5 1 year ago
@animal90sFreak5 they are not rock and roll....PERIOD
dog1clear 1 year ago
@dog1clear Hip Hop stem from rock and roll duh
xxxtobyx3 1 year ago
@xxxtobyx3 so... what the fuck is your point einstien
dog1clear 1 year ago
@dog1clear They technically are rock and roll SCHRODINGER!
xxxtobyx3 1 year ago
@xxxtobyx3 o yea i'm sure their right up there with sabbath, zep, deep purple, def lep, and so on. i never said that they arn't important to there genre but your defenition of rock and roll is all fucked up. that leave's me with the opinion that you are falling in to the same shit hole whoever compare's them with true rockers. if your opinion is so valid technically the why have'nt the hip hop or rap award inducted said rockers...or at least as a tribute to their contribution? smartass
dog1clear 1 year ago
Grandmaster flash & the furious five are well qualified as rock & roll inductees.. Grandmaster flash pioneered the artform of scratching.
The group sang ,harmonised & performed live in theatres parties & parks with turntables & mics way before being signed.. They also toured alongside bands like the Commodores & Rick james.
It's evident that G.M.F.F 5 were extremely influential if you look beyond the limited number of recordings they released. & examine the origins.
tygaelement 1 year ago
@dog1clear well many hip hop tracks have been built around sampling older rock tracks, That's the thing about the break beat generations music. The beats serve as a historical archive. It's probably the most appropriate type of tribute. I'm not saying that hip hop is rock. Just that old school hip hop is rock and roll (in a poetic sense) But in all technicality it does originate from rock, funk r&b and a number of other styles that intern are kin to rock and roll.
xxxtobyx3 1 year ago
@xxxtobyx3 man i just think if you have to disect and break down a genre just to get it to fit into another then its to much work. it all sounds politicaly correct but ya wont hear these guys on any rock station in america.
dog1clear 1 year ago
if u love grandmaster flash and the furious five u'll love this rare song by them
/watch?v=wSn8Kd-_sec
wiiboy555 2 years ago
yo I seen a interview wit LL back from 86 and he dissed melle mel talkin bout people dont want to hear that thats depressing anyone can rap about hardtimes now hes singing along thats funny????
shawn41111 2 years ago
damn melle still does his roid striping act, saw him not too long ago at crotona park concert and the fool started to do his body building poses, wtf?? lol
peterwo2e 2 years ago
this poaple create hiphop
kutkinderen 2 years ago
what is the mess going on with the performance? the dancers? hype men ruin the integrity of the song. Wtf? goin shirtless? classics dont need to do that.
reesesncreme 2 years ago
Howcome the Rock n' Roll hall of fame didn't induct Soulja Boy yet? Into a mental health rehabilitation program that is.
walterreally 2 years ago 3
STOP HATIN
jbthegrinder 2 years ago
oh man you had me worried for a min lol
reesesncreme 2 years ago
what about kool herc the father of hip hop.. its a shame that alot of people forgot about the creator of hip hop
STBNY 2 years ago 4
You only get into the Hall of Fame for having hit records. Herc had none, so that's why he isn't in. Despite his innovations in DJing, Flash wouldn't be in the hall either if it wasn't for him getting credit on all of Melle Mel's hit records (like The Message, White Lines, Step Off, Pump Me Up, ect...) In fact, a lot of casual fans think Melle Mel IS Grandmaster Flash because they always see Mels face with Grandmaster flash's name on the records & videos.
playserious 2 years ago
They dam sure deserve it and Im glad they were first
rakkfatha 2 years ago
nah col herc belong there if it wasn't for cool herc theywouldn't be know rappers making songs. big ups to one of my favorite groups though
TheStrawbeery 2 years ago
i agree cool herc belong there for real
TheStrawbeery 2 years ago
I agree too, but like playserious said, you get in the rock hall for having hit records, herc didn't have any, even tho he is the father of Hip Hop.
facesinthecrowdtv 2 years ago
true legends
CRUCIALTAGZ 2 years ago 13
everytime I see him talking to some interview, he always looks like's crying xD
whatever, he rules anyway
DJMikDeez 3 years ago 3
who's the bitch commenting to this..she's sounds like a real bad bitch with an attitude..she's don't now shit about hiphop.
jaytechnical 3 years ago 8
word
DJMikDeez 3 years ago 2
ebonics?
mikwoo48 3 years ago
haha i met dis nigga, hes datin mah ex's sister, he djs here in vegas alot
LvNoog 3 years ago
Someone I used to work with a long time ago had the audacity to say that Elvis was a rapper...and he said and I quote "He ain't done nothin' different than what's bein' done today." What an absurd comment.Elvis had what's called musical talent, and he sang brilliantly along with having great musicians around him like Scotty Moore, D.J. Fontana just to name a few.Can (c)rappers claim the same thing? I don't think so.
loveclevelandohio 3 years ago
how is avril ravine or whatever inducted after like only a few years but these legends took like 30 years
FutureLaugh 3 years ago
Maybe you should do your homework before saying something stupid. In order to qualify for induction to the Hall of Fame an artist needs to be in the business at least 25 years.This is why musicians like Elvis, the Beatles,and Ray Charles just to name a few are there and not the "musician" you mentioned.See the difference?
loveclevelandohio 3 years ago
a BARBADIAN BORN BROTHER inducted to the ROCKING ROLL HALL OF FAME-CARIBBEAN STAND UP!
clarkie246 3 years ago
I'm sure all of the homies in the hood are thrilled to have Grandmaster Flash in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.But the truth remains...this is NOT ROCK AND ROLL...and their tainted induction was set up by rockhall chairman Jann Wenner who really screwed the Dave Clark Five over getting in last year even though the DC5 won the induction voting.Rap has absolutely no business whatsoever in the rockhall.If they want their place in the hood, rap should have their own hall.Keep the rockhall pure.
loveclevelandohio 3 years ago
OK loveclevelandohio, you racist Fuck. Dude not everyone in the R&R HOF is a rock musician. It's more of a music HOF. I agree that Hip Hop should have it's own HOF but these guys are Icons. Their music was social conscious and promoted education to one self to better yourself. They are positive people making positive music.
lafuzion 3 years ago 2
Rappers making positive music...that's a good one...dude. And dude, I am very well aware that the rockhall is not all rock musicians...some of the inductees are promoters, managers, side men, etc. and I'm OK with that.I don't even mind the fact that Motown artists are there...they sang and play actual instruments. To call rap and hip hop "music" is absurd.Thanks for the Racist Fuck compliment BTW.
loveclevelandohio 3 years ago
Grow up man. Look up the definition of music and tell me if Hip Hop doesn't fit in. Don't be ignorant. Some people say Rock music is of the devil and it's all screaming and breaking but we know that's not true, so why you can't respect our craft. Don't be ignorant buddy.
lafuzion 3 years ago
racist fuck huh. the person gives an opinion on this hall of fame bullshit and he's a racist fuck. it aint a black or white thing. it's about a place in music history. rock is rock hip hop is hip hop two different forms of music. your the racist ignorant fuck
mikwoo48 3 years ago 4
Dude who asked you? This dude is obviously not agreeing with their selection cuz it's Hip Hop and that bugs me. Just cuz you don't like the music it doesn't mean they don't deserve recognition. I don't like Elvis' but I respect his contribution to music. You and buddy just don't want to appreciate Hip Hop's contribution to music.
lafuzion 3 years ago
what contribution? hip hop should have it's own hall of fame. hip hop has it's place in it's contribution to music history also rap, but not in rock n roll. when you go to a music store and by music they have different selections rock rap hip hop country. it is what it is. i can see it now hip hop's first inductee is pink floyd. come on dude. by the way nobody has to ask me shit this is an open forum. no disrespect intended but lighten up dude.
mikwoo48 3 years ago 2
right on well said and by the way you said nothing racist.
mikwoo48 3 years ago
Thanks. Good to see someone on my side.
loveclevelandohio 3 years ago
clevleland rocks......
mikwoo48 3 years ago 2
Indeed it does.
loveclevelandohio 3 years ago
@mordacity85: there is no one who sounds live as good as on record, for the simple fact of todays quality improvement via computer... the only one might have been whitney houston
TimitosAndersson 3 years ago
idk thats a very subjective thing, yes maybe in rap where its mainly vocals over recorded beats for concerts it won't sound "good" but if you go see someone play music the improvising is the major draw to a concert and live vocals are only as good as the singer anyway. even rappers can freestyle over their beats if they want to, people might say that sounds good
appassionato90 2 years ago
Play, you are waaaaay off! Flash was the centerpiece of the group. He had many records and set the tone for most of their music. Without him there is no furious five! Real talk!
flyingshrapnel09 3 years ago
Doesnt sound as good live :(
mordacity85 4 years ago
It feels good to know I believed in something, and I was right. I am an audiophile, I love all music. Around 1981, in Peoria, Illinois, I got into rap. Through it, I figured out who I was. And who others were. I left many of my hard rock "friends" behind, many joined with me. Music lovers who saw past the hatred of racism. We saw the similarities in things being written about in punk, heavy metal, and rap, not the differences in style of music or colors of skin.
12patriot12 4 years ago 2
In 81 i went to see flash&da5 in Da venue in Victoria SW1 London Uk Bad ass concert, we got down on the mic with them at the front of the stage. Same year i was bboyin. True UK OG in da place!!
bollowski 4 years ago
Flash has become a legend by gettin' credit for records he wasn't even on. "White Lines", "The Message", ect..., Melle Mel is responsible for all their hits. Flash played no part, other than falsely taking credit. Phony dude is even callin' his autobiography "The Message". Flash's best skill is playin' other peoples records.
playserious 4 years ago
What??!!? You kidding me? Clearly you have no respect for foundation. Without "Phony dude" as you call him (not to mention the countless others who paved the way)we would not be here. That's like saying your grandparents aren't important, and that would be silly,because your mom or dad wouldn't be here, and neither would you. You follow ?
HorusRising 4 years ago
i called flash a phony dude for taking credit for records he wasn't even on like "White Lines" & "The Message". He played no part in either of those 2 tracks, yet he continues to try and exploit them to make money & build his fame by conning ignorant fools like you. flash callin' his new autobiography "the message" is as stupid as melle mel callin' his "the wheels of steel". i'll say it again. flash is a phony dude.
playserious 4 years ago
playserious is correct. grandmaster flash was responsible for bringing the famous five together because according what is writen, he needed some people to help take away attention from his dj-ing
mistertube79 3 years ago
Dat dude in the Army gear, he calls himself "muscles", is one cocky mo fo. I seen him on Rapcity and the guy was flexin in front of the camera every 10 seconds. So annoying. They asked him who his favourite rapper is and he goes "me".
bboyStuntZ 4 years ago
"Dat Dude" is Melle Mel and oh I don't know if you were one of the originators of a style of music that now spans the globe and is a multi million dollar business and on top of that people rip your style and lyrics from time time to this very day you would probably think your shit don't stink a little too. But just a little
RighteousTalk 4 years ago 3
i love the art of grandmaster flash
laytienchophu 4 years ago
beautiful video. im surprised so little people care. actually im not, but it is sad.
eboyd32 4 years ago 2