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  • and also... a lot of the clips are not of gymnastics, just random stuff. so you can't compare the old to the new like that.

  • there's nothing wrong with different music, different style of gymnastics... there can still be artistry, but in a different way. but today's gymnasts are just boring

  • Honestly, the gymnasts today are boring to watch. Especially on bars. There is nothing interesting about their routines and they make it look hard. If we had to name the best gymnasts in history no one from 95 and up would make it.

  • Seriously. Nastia? He Kexin? You really think they have no talent. Beth Tweddle? Do you even watch gymnastics? Especially with the new system, they have to do more and more difficult tricks to get the scores.

  • gymnast ass is the best ass

  • at 59 secconds i have that leo!

  • Who's that at 2:38?

  • ur montage is awesome! don't listen to the people who are critizing ur monatge. they have their ass up their head!

  • LMAO, it's "head up their ass", kid.

  • soz lol

  • wow! you r so good at montages. i have seen ur montages and they are just amazing!:)

  • Totally!! I agree.

  • Dear Ashley,

    For "the newer gymnasts passes are like 3x as hard" Look at the banned passes (because of danger level) Shushunova, Davydova, Strazheva and such were doing. Then tell me that. If you have such a problem with balletic, bitchfacy (bitchface owns all), "boring" (not!) gymnasts from the old days you can look at Comaneci, Omelianchik, Silivas, etc. They had fun with their routines AND they didn't have gross dance.

  • Also, Laschenova had one of the most difficult, creative, amazing passes EVER, and she didn't think it was an excuse for robotic gymnastics. I like your other videos, but not this one. Plus that whole 16's unsafe thing.....Nadia and Aurelia Dobre were 14 in their primes.... Don't even ask me how old Kim Gwang Suk was.

  • I'm with you USAGymnast! I hate all this shitty choreagraphy from today.

  • wow i love this montage =D

  • wow i love this montage =D

  • wow where did you get all of the younger groups fotage? i love it great montage

  • ashley! YOUR AMAZING AT THIS STUFF!

    were did you get your carly patterson clips?

  • I think the new gymnasts make gymnastics more exciting and better to watch! The dance moves they do make gymnastics more fun and not so stiff. I think with the new stuff it seperates itself from ballet more. The new have exciting moves that have so much more power! I think the new gymnasts redefined gymnastics into a sport that not everyone can do and a sport where u have to have grace, flexibilaty, skill, power, and more!

  • No offence, but I quite preffered the old gymnastics because today the gymnasts are just not graceful, take Carly Patterson for example. She is just not that graceful if you think about it and so I did prefer old gymnastics better, but this montage is still excellent for making at 2 in the morning!

  • ya i agree these days girls arent having fun dancing with ther tumbling passes and i liked it better in induvidual not groups like today

  • shawn johnson has a lot of fun with her floor routine

  • shawn johnson may be having fun, but she's not very graceful. That's exactly the point that spunkygymnast is trying to make, and I agree.

  • shawn johnson looks like the tin man when she dances

  • sooo true!!! i hate the ballet stuff! I love the hardcore power!

  • I have to disagree with everyone saying "old beats new" because your wrong. I mean come on people, seriously, if we still had the "old" gymnastics, we'd still be doing fronthandspring vaults in the olympics. And now look what we got, doublefront sumersaults. one 1/2's, and so much more. The "New" gymnastics today, are way much more than what it was, it takes strenght, flexiblitie, raw power,and so much more.

  • i totally agree with you! i love all the power we see today.

  • And guess what, no one talks of today's gymnasts. They don't have the precision, the grace,the abilities, or the natural talent to be memorable

  • the power stuff is great, but why do we have to lose the gracefulness and beauty? I think that Shannon Miller was the closest we've come to combining the two. She did the power stuff, but she was still graceful in her dance.

  • Unbelievably good! Not only is the music excellent, but the gymnastics clips are amazing! Let's bring back the sport of gymnastics!

  • ha ha well thank you!

  • They're also spending way more time doing psycho hard vaults and beam dismounts instead of the old compulsories that forced a gymnast to have a perfect leap and pirouette. If anyone should be blamed, it's the FIG for making the rules that way.

  • I personally think that the old gymnasts from the golden era of gymnastics were much better than the crap that is served up as gymnastics today. There is no grace, style or elegance and if you look at the routines they actually looked harder before than they do now (you only have to look at the videos on youtube to see the difference). IT's just painful to watch the gymnasts of today compared to the old gymnasts

  • i have to disagree with you. sorry. but i love the power and the fun dance even if it isn't perfect. but that's just my personality.

  • And then Nastia comes along and proves this video wrong! THAT grace AND power (though she is not as powerful) CAN co-exist. SHE proves that the pwerful gymnast is not ALWAYS the best....hopefully more Nastia's will come along...THOSE gymnasts PROVE that grace and classical elegance STILL has a place in gymnastics!

  • but power rules all.

  • Not quite.

  • i love this motage and i think it's great that you got your opinion across. i think it's great to have powerful gymnasts and graceful gymnasts because it gives our sport diversity ya know. and i'd love 2 see more artistry in men's gymnastics so many are put to the way side for being artsy. like that one greek gymnast who won floor at the 96 games.

  • thank you!

  • i totally agree! everything is becomming corrupt! hey ahleyakaflippa, i'm writing a book about gymnastics and i was wondering if you could help me to make it more relistic. i mean, i did gymnastics on-and-off from when i was like 3-11 but it's definatly not my specialty. if you could help i'd really appriciate it my e-mail's ibaswimma and it's at aol thanks!

    :)

  • yeah no problem i'll help you as much as i can.

  • Well....though I watch gynast competitions religiously I have o say that it is not just gymastics but nearly EVERY artform that is being corrupted by idiots who call this "new" stuff art.......all this new music....new "literature"....new movies.....when they let the skeleton....the background of their artform become something they are completely ignorant about.

  • So I'm guessing you totally hate the fact that Morgan Hamm is trying to incorporate the airflair into his FX routine? I think it's totally awesome he's getting his b-boy on... and adding some new difficulty!

  • I am not saying that innovation is EVIL...i am saying that IF you want to still call it artistic gynastcs...keep th artistry..Hey like pop for what it is...but to cal it fine music..oh no! Likewise if you want to call it artistic gymnastis....be artistic...makes it a misnomer if the artistry is pushed to the side it seems to me!

  • Seems to be the way of the world. Weird they call it figure skating, too, when they don't do figures anymore.

  • good point...though not entirely true that they don't do figures, but I see what you are saying.

  • this is a great video. Ashley, don't listen to anyone who criticises your films, there great. i've seen a few of your others and they're great too. keep up the good work. and for those of you who think it's bad, i'd like to see you try and do that stuff. i'm a level 10 gymnast in the northern territory of Australia and i think its a great video clip.

  • wow thank you so much!

  • you're right ashley. change is always good and if gymanstics didn't change from what it was 40 years ago then girls would still be doing fronthandspring vaults in the olympics. i mean i like nastia because of her fluent clean lines and her style but no one can say that shawn isn't as good as a gymnast just because she doesn't have that. shawn has raw power and thats a cool thing in gymnastics. maybe people should except that there is a new generation of awesome gymnasts

  • i totally agree with you! thanks.

  • Every generation of gymnastics has this problem. It's the whole Kim Zmeskal/Shannon Miller thing over again.

  • Okayyy. Hello its a video. And its good. Im a level 10 at gage soo don't tell me that i dont know about gymnastics. Ashley..it's GREAT. Don't listen to them!!!

    Whats the song called.???

  • thanks! i think i've heard of where you train, it sounds familiar. the song is from the stick it soundtrack called anthem part 2 by blink 182 i think. i could be totally wrong but i'm pretty sure. thanks!

  • No one said the video itself sucked....just the concept that these "new code" gymnasts represent acurately what ARTISTIC gymnastics are. Read Plato...I liek Socrates's take on gymnastics and classical art forms in book 3 (?) of the Republic...THAT is the way it should be.

  • ok those pple who were like doing gymnastics with tv's in the backround....waht the heck??

  • Philistine.

  • Sorry but... This video is wrong in some many levels. I couldn't watch it for too long. FX nowadays is ridiculous except for rare beautiful gymnasts who still live up to the old days of glory. Shawn who? Give me Tessa Pama, Nastia Liukin, Pang Panpan, Zhou Zhouru or even Charlotte Mackie anyday. They know this sport is called ARTISTIC gymnastics. They are worth watching.

  • the video isn't wrong your opinion is differnt than mine and it's shawn johnson number 2 gymnast in the US

  • Hmm, if she's #2 in the US, I wonder who you think is the best in the world???

  • Charlotte is an amazing gymnast but she seems more serious than Gael. and in case u didnt notice Charlotte has a forced smile on her face. Gael's is natural.

  • again these are my opinions, you can't change them what your saying doesn't matter so i'm not going to waste my breath. and watching balletic gymnasts is VERY boring. to me. obviously your a music geek because i wouldn't knowis nastia seems to feel the "accents of her music" and frankly i could care a less because i hate her floor routine. and shawn has one of the hardest don't try to deny that one

  • I don't really see why you don't like old gymnastics, a lot of the skills were much harder, especially the tumbling. Nowadays the gymnasts are just using awful choreography like Shawn Johnson's.

  • i never said shawn johnson claimed to have a fun dance. i claimed she had a fun dance, and compared to nastia, shawn is having a blast! i don't care what you think is fun because obviously you work in a funeral parlor, but i love shawn johnson's floor routine and you can't change that no matter what you say

  • i LOVE dos santos... her dance, and her REDICULOUS tumbling... she's got the all-around package. She's so powerful in her tumbling and her jumps. And i agree with you with Shawn Johnson too... she's AMAZING. With the dance debate, i also agree, i fast forward to tumbling passes if the dance is boring, and shawn johnson's is a routine that i watch the entire thing

  • yeah! i totally agree with everything you said!

  • umm shawn johnson has the hardest pass i've ever seen it's the same as zamos. a double double! and no i'm not contradicting myself because i don't care about most dances but if it's a fun dance then i like to see it. but the ballet crap needs to go.

  • and shawn johnson's routines is amazing and it fits the music perfectly. on youtube the music is very screwed up but i have vids here and it goes perfectly and it is a very fun dance compared to nastia's throwing herself around to music i'd play at a funeral

  • If Shawn's is the hardest you've ever seen you have never seen old gymasts like Omelianchik and Shushunova whose tumbling passes would make Shawn's look like a newbie's.

  • but the newer gymnasts passes are like 3x as hard and if i wanted to see the dance i'd go watch a ballet, but the tumbling and FUN dances (like shawn johnson's) is all i care about

  • Cough cough, "the newer gymnasts passes are like 3x as hard", no way!!

    If you think that then you have probably never watched Silivas, Milosovici, Omelianchik and Zamolodchikova. They had extremely difficult tumbling passes that are now banned because of the danger level. If you think the passes are now 3x as harder, then they must be easy for the old gymnasts.

    The new dancing is all sloppy nowadays and most gymnasts have bad form,apart from Izbasa and Nistor.

  • Yay! An Izbasa fan!!!

  • cool

  • thanks

  • fuck,this vid is so goodi could watch it over and over again and it never gets old

  • THANK YOU! i'm glad you liked it.

  • i love that u use stick it songs in ur vids too!!they always fit the video!

  • thank you so much!

  • i LOVE this video!!it shows that gymnastics isnt just dances and tumbling to classical music, we DO have fun!thx for making everyone aware!

  • thanks! lol i never thought of it liek that thanks!

  • what's the name of the song?

    I love Alicia and Zamo's fx, both are fun to watch, and I also like Pavlova, Kozich fx which are elegant even they use modern music.

  • the name of this song is Anthem part 2 i think it's from the stick it soundtrack

  • finaly u guys who said the mean comments go to hell god it annoys me wen people think they r cool cause they can say mean comments,big woop the footage was off tv shows get over it,nice vid:)

  • thanks so much for the support! i really appreciate it!

  • jeez. everyone is being retarted. its a great montage, with a good point behind it. what mroe od you want? just because your opinion mah not be the exact same is no reason to go hating on the maker. and wo cares if theyre from shows, not meets? we can all see that, its just because they are doing more than prancing around to piano and violin music. keep making more of these great montages!!!!

  • THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU! i really appreciate your support, it means a lot to me to hear someone say that after all the crap. thanks again!

  • TUMBLING!!!!

  • what?

  • You said people would like tumbling more and i backed it up.

  • alright thanks!

  • i LOVED it. everyone else can kiss my ass.

  • THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!! i appreciate you comments so much! i'm so glad someone else sees my point!

  • Hi Ashley, I think its cool how you get the vid to fit so well with the lyrics. keep up the great work. this one ROCKS!!!

  • thanks! i really appreciate your support. thanks so much for your nice comment!

  • OK, Ashley, most of the "new" videos you showed are from special shows that have nothing to do with real gymnastics.

  • WOW! great observation what the fuck do you want a medal???

  • ummm, Ash, why don't you take a chill pill.

  • umm first of all don't call me ash, do i look like a place to dump cigarettes? and second of all koelie i think you would need a chill pill too if a bunch of dumb asses kept critizing your motnages, what did you want me to say to your comment? Oh my god thanks! i had no idea that wasn't a real competition i've never seen gymnastics! what the fuck do you people want from me?

  • That is what I wanted you to say. You're trying to make a big deal out of nothing.

  • Do you seriously think i don't know the difference between competitions and shows? How stupid are you?

  • i think the point is that they are having FUN. im pretty sure you just missed the whole point of the video. way to be an idiot.

  • I got it, I just don't think she made it very well. You're all just a bunch of dumb gym girls, which sadly, is the majority of gym girls.

  • oh. and what makes you so high and mighty??

    the shows arent good enough for you??

    seriously. stop whining about videos when you dont have anything constructive to add.

    apparently you're also just a dumb 'gym girl'

  • that's "gym stud," doll.

  • ha! gym stud your more like gym junk! doll. your fucking retarted.

  • GUESS WHAT HONEY!!! I'M NOT A GYMNAST! AND I HAVE A 4.0 IN HIGH SCHOOL! and make it yourself ass hole nobody fucking asked you for your opinion

  • oh and do you seriously think i made this for you?? do you think i make these to please dumb asses like you? well guess what doll! I don't so stop fucking critising me!

  • excuse me? how would you know? how many "gym girls" do you actually know? i happen to be one of them, and ill have you know not a single girl in my gym is dumb, many of them manage to keep a 4.0 average even when there in the gym 20 hours a week doing what they love. so there smarter than most people. so shut the hell up and dont trash things you dont fucking know about.

  • woops haha i meant to put that on page two or three in response to one of the mean comments back there......i personally really liked the video :)

  • who were you talking to though? lol. i have a 4.0 too, i've never lost it, but i'm only half a gym girl lol.

  • i was talking too koehler86. wait how are you half a gym girl? haha.

  • oh alright. umm because i'm going to be a gym girl this summer but it's not official yet, so i'm a gym girl at heart, bu ti don't do gym yet if that makes any sense! lol

  • not even just gym GIRLS.... i'm a gym GUY... i do college gymnastics and i just recieved a 4.0 this past semester... competing every weekend, travelling 7 hours away on a bus, leaving on thursday, getting back at 3am on sunday, classes all week long, teaching PE in an elementary school, practicing gymnastics 6 days a week, and finding SOME time to socialize...

  • gymnastics is a sport of character and it teaches people how to juggle many different things, but to keep the more important things on top. Congrats on your 4.0 as well... i know how difficult it is! lol

  • woww ash what the fuck is up with that coolbuddy person i think she needa to calm down a bit and learn to spell i couldnt understand her comments either lol great vid though!! :)

  • lol i have no idea. thanks!

  • Congratulations on getting an honor. Is this the first one you've gotten for a video?

  • thanks! no it's like the 13th or so but it's still really cool!

  • Whats going on???? What a whore Carly Patterson is!!

  • I agree 100%, good montage.

  • thanks!

  • whenever i try to upload my videos it says the file or somethin is to big, and it wont let me upload it. but ur videos r like, 6 minutes long and mine are only 2 or 3. what do i do to make it post. do i need to rename the video or something?

  • i don't know which program are you using?

  • i just upload a video from my carmera and then i go to "upload videos" and when i fill out all the stuff and try to upload it. it says the file is too big

  • with what program? like where do you hit upload videos from? if i have the program i can help you.

  • when ur logged on theres a link that says "upload videos" its right under the video search bar thing when u scroll up

  • oh i on't upload directly to youtube. i make the montage first, but if it says it's too big then it's more than 10 mminutes or really high quality, so you ned a program to edit it.

  • thx. ill try it.

  • Graet Video!!Like in a bored way lol!!

  • thanks lol.

  • great video ash!!! i love how you put what they are thinking lol!!! plus you got an honnor thats great!!!!!

  • thanks. of course i missed you lol i was on the trampoline, i'll have vids up later, i have so much to tell you. if you're on later send me a message!

  • wow this is really good. i would have never thought of using this song int he way you did. don't listen to tumble09 (asshole) but i loved your comeback lol.

  • thanks lol. yeah tumble09 is an asshole lol. thanks!

  • this is stupid

  • so are you but does that mean we delete you off youtube?

  • Thanks, I thought your video was pretty funny. To answer your question Ashleyakaflipper, many people don't like the direction gymnastics has taken now because the beauty and grace that it once represented is slowly diminishing. Gymnastics is not supposed to be about tumbling alone. It is tumbling combined with artistry. (hence the name, artistic gymnastics)

  • thanks lol. yeah but the name doesn't matter if i go to a gymnastics competition i want to see the high flying skills, if i wanted to see artistry and grace then id go see the nutcracker. like i prefer shawn's floor routine over nastia's anyday becasue sawn actaully tumbles, and her dance is fun. but i guess it depends on what type of person you are. my younger generation would rather see tumbling.

  • Power tumbling is about tumbling. If that's what you want to see, try watching TNT.

  • yeah, but there's no music i love the music and the tumbling, and i love watching all the events, especially at the olympics.

  • just sweat it offf

  • what?

  • just dont think that people are mean just forget them thats what i do and not to brag but it....WORKS

  • i wasn't thinking anyone was mean at least on here, and i've "sweated" enough people off to last me 3 lifetimes and with me it DOESN'T work. i can't just forget someone if they are being an asshole thanks anyway

  • are you calling me bitchy?

  • no i wasn't talking about you lol. if i had a problem with you you'd know it lol.

  • well if u be bitchy take that so seriesly u would so tired of it so...think r hard r u calling me bitchy cause ill bring it if u want a fight do u?

  • what the fuck?? i said I WASN"T CALLING YOU BITCHY! and can you talk like a normal person i can't understand a fucking work you're saying!

  • are you takling to me?

  • yes i am

  • do u think im bitchy even though u said u didnt call me bitchy?

  • no i think you're a hard headed ass hole that doesn't know how to read.

  • then why dont u just call me bitchy since u called me all that?

  • because that has absolutely nothing to do with this but if you really want me to call you a bitch then you're a bitch hope i satisfied your request anything else i can do for you like wipe your ass?

  • no im ok can we just me friends?

  • no because i don't know you. i love how people on here want to be "friends" and want all the videos you have even though they have no idea who you are. I don't even know your name or how old you are or anything about you, so yeah we can talk, but friends? not yet.

  • deal lets start whats your name,age?

  • okay lol my name is Ashley and i'm 15. how about you?

  • Katie and dont feel like saying so what grade?

  • Why all that show footage? Not many big tricks at shows. Don't you have recent competition footage of gymnasts with "fun" dance? More dance footage from the gymnasts in black and white to compare the old and new styles would've been nice. You just show them marching to the equipment. I also wonder which gymnasts in the show footage are supposed to be the old gymnasts who are joining the new crowd. It seems like every girl shown was always a "fun" dancer.

  • umm no i don't have any footage of "fun" dance. and i don't have any footage of old floor routines either. i wasn't trying to put the big tricks in at the shows at the shows were gymnastics shows and there never used to be those types of shows. the old gymnasts aren't in the shows. like i said i don't have enough footage to do the dance of the older gymnasts. if you have a problem with it then make one yourself, unless you requested it you have no say. sorry.

  • You said your montage was confusing, stupid, and corny but you didn't say not to comment on how it could be better.

  • my comment thing isn't working so let me send you a messgae, plus i don't fight under my montages

  • Like I said, you didn't ask for advice but you didn't disable comments either.

  • WHY WOULD I DISABLE COMMENTS?? so i don't have to talk to people like you? sorry i'm not going to penalize everyone else who wanted to say they liked my montage or if they had a question about it. it's a COMEMNT about the montage not an instruction MANUAL about how to make it satisfying to you...

  • My point is that comments aren't just for people to say they like your montage which is what you seem to think. Otherwise you wouldn't have such a problem with me telling you what I thought and asked you questions. P.S. Venus isn't a country. It's a planet.

  • Whoops. I just reread what your email. You were saying I'm obviously from a country ON Venus. Not that I must be from the country OF Venus. My bad.

  • i don't want to know what you think. how can you honestly believe that a comment means to tell people how to change their montage so you like it?

  • Just to be sure I wasn't losing my mind, I looked up comment in the dictionary. You should too. You originally used confusing, stupid, and corny to describe your vid. I looked at your vid and asked questions and made suggestions that I thought might help you out. I wasn't asking you to change your vid so I would like it better. It didn't occur to me that somebody who does a vid at 2 in the morning would have a huge problem with improving said vid for their own enjoyment.

  • do you know how long it takes to change, resave, open it in another program, re save it, then upload it to youtube?

  • im pretty sure that no one wants to hear negative things. she posted it and it was nice of her. so back off. like seriously who died and gave you the reins??

  • Back off? The last time I posted a comment was a week ago. So I guess you're a bit late with your advice.

  • funny you didn't feel the need to reply to my comment! what's the matter?? do i have you BEAT or something?