thunderf00t invited dawahfilms to a public debate on blogtv, and waited. dawahfilms didnt turn up. dlandoncole turned up and attempted to debate thunderf00t. dawahfilms THEN turned up and his mic conveniently didnt work.
On the contrary, DPRjones set up a specific time for us to talk IN PRIVATE that worked around my work schedule. Tf00t used that info to schedule a LIVE PUBLIC "debate" while I was working to claim I was being a "coward".
Bullshit blatant liar? No, you're just clearly deluded.
@DawahFilms "Tf00t used that info to schedule a LIVE PUBLIC "debate" while I was working to claim I was being a "coward"."
I suspected as much. The correct thing for TF to do would have been to contact you directly via PM and ask you when you'd be available to speak with him. But he didn't do that, did he?
@DawahFilms Wether it was public or private bares no consequence in regards to your schedule or time frame (public or private would use equal time) because although yes there was a time designated via Dpr and TF you could have respecified when it is you would liked for it to take place.
What would be the point of making it private anyway?, If the general populace on YouTube were to not hear your arguments put forth then it would basically bare no meaning or consequence.
@blade004 you forget it's a two way street. Ali, how many time do I have to say this, PM'd Thunderf00t *repeatedly* in an attempt to civilly conclude their dispute. TF summarily ignored all correspondence from Ali. So for you to tell Ali that he should have "respecified" dates and times, is a bit ridiculous. Respecify to who, exactly? Someone who never responds to him? He shouldn't be forced to go through a middle man. TF should've had the guts to contact Ali personally.
Its nice that you seem to believe its MY responsibility for not adhering to a time that was not agreed upon prior. I trusted DPRjones and Tf00t to respect my schedule and I agreed to show up at a certain date. So its MY fault they broke that agreement?
@volound "dawahfilms THEN turned up and his mic conveniently didnt work." You make it sound as though technical difficulties never happen on skype or blogtv. In my experience, even when watching TF & DLandonCole, technical problems were an issue for the first 30 minutes. In my interview with Ali, technical difficulties effected the overall quality of the recording. Did TF personally contact Ali prior to the "debate" as courtesy would dictate?
@JonPaulPrime "You make it sound as though technical difficulties never happen on skype or blogtv."
no i dont. he may well have happened to have technical difficulties. i linked to a point in the video where dawahfilms pretends thunderf00t never offered a chance to resolve the situation at any point. all dawahfilms had to do was turn up and make his case against the "sleeping giant". he never did, he let dlandoncole turn up and do it instead.
@volound "i linked to a point in the video where dawahfilms pretends thunderf00t never offered a chance to resolve the situation at any point. all dawahfilms had to do was turn up and make his case against the "sleeping giant". he never did, he let dlandoncole turn up and do it instead."
Um, no. Thunderf00t CHOSE DLandonCole after asking his subscribers to *vote* on which youtuber they wanted him to debate. Also I remember this: (cont)
@JonPaulPrime@volound furthermore I specifically remember Dawahfilms being decidedly annoyed that Thunderf00t seemed to expect Ali to drop everything whenever TF decided to schedule a blogtv appearance at *thunderf00t's* convenience (in other words, TF didn't give two shits about Ali's personal schedule at all). Your attempt to spin this isn't working. Again, TF should have sent Ali a personal message and asked him when would be a good time. But TF didn't do that.
@JonPaulPrime completely agree. thunderf00t wasnt being a paragon.
but he offered dawahfilms a chance to resolve the situation and it wasnt taken, for whatever reason. this contradicts what ali says in this video (that there was no such offer). that is my contention.
@JonPaulPrime Well then how about you spin some documented facts that TF spun the schedule time to his advantage so as a debate could never take place as per his supposed lack of understanding for Ali's schedule? I am not saying that what you say didn't happen, but neither is there any proof your end that says that TF consistently worked against Ali's schedule. You say what you say but what's to say it's fact?.
@blade004 I've never claimed he consciously "worked against" Ali's schedule; I'm claiming he didn't give a shit about Ali's schedule. Let's be realistic about this. If Thunderf00t was *truly interested* in debating Ali, he could have easily made it happen. Instead, he chose to show up at a time Ali was NOT expecting, then let bystanders declare stuff like: "Well, Ali had his chance and chickened out."
@MrFrothinger No, that's his "muslim name" (some sects of Islam require converts to change their name to a muslim i.e. arabish one). His real name is Kevin: watch?v=S5welLL544o
I dont see how lying about when we're supposed to meet and how we're going to talk equates to someone trying to "resolve the issue". He clearly only wanted to take advantage of the scheduling difference to portray me as a coward while ducking from a legit convo with me. If he really wanted to "resolve" this he would have adhered to the schedule we agreed upon.
Im getting really tired of you using my former name. I thought you KNEW that this is no longer my legal name and yet you continually insist on using it? WTF is wrong with you?
@DawahFilms "Im getting really tired of you using my former name. I thought you KNEW that this is no longer my legal name and yet you continually insist on using it? "
But many still use it. Klingschor for example. Why do you care if I use it?
@DawahFilms "Or maybe I don't AGREE that Saudi Arabia or Afghanistan are "hardcore"?"
I don't think hardcore is a manner of opinion. By hardcore I mean fanatical, fundamentalist, etc. It seems you chose a fairly liberal muslim country, where you can say "Im living among muslims" but not be controlled too much. Or maybe not, it's just a guess :p I'm not sure how that was degrading.
Because I believe I am living Islamically. There is nothing "hardcore" about Saudi Arabia. Its just wrong. To imply I should go there seems to suggest that Im not doing Islam correctly.
@DawahFilms No no, I don't think there is any way to "correctly" live "islamically", I don't deal with that crap Kevin, I'm an atheist, not a muslim. It just seems you picked one of those liberal muslim countries where you can say "I'm living among muslims" but still have a hooker sit on your face and get wasted.
@DawahFilms Where did you live that you were in fear for your life? If you are saying you feared for your life in the United States then you are a blatant liar. Islamic countries persecute, rape and slaughter non Muslims indiscriminately. And the United States protects the liberties of all people regardless of race or religion. Islam ordains apartheid and bigotry! You have zero integrity!
do you think dawahfilms quit when he claimed he did? because of the reason he gave? or he just claimed to stop because he was doc hunting with a troll.
why would he invent someone to blame it on? this "friend of thunderf00t" that contacted him after 4 months of doc dropping
@alsdfalsdvjoen You know, I took a glance at your channel, and you're totally a nonsensical multiple case fruitcake so I'm not surprised you spout out conspiracy theories.
@alsdfalsdvjoen It's funny that he didn't do what he says he did (contact his employers) right after releasing that zip file, but did it months afterwards. Why would Kevin do that? So your conspiracy theory doesn't hold up.
@alsdfalsdvjoen I don't know what this is a response too, so I'm just guessing here. I assume you're saying Kevin is the one who found thunderf00t's info and released it? There's no evidence of this, so I don't accept it. It's clear who did it, the user name is known. And there's no evidence Kevin even distributed it after finding the zip file of the info.
Not sure how the arab spring reversed perceptions or was a "game changer" after all fanatical islamic groups won in Egypt, practically everyones calling the "revolution" a failure there, at least if the goal was civil rights.
@DawahFilms Well they are islamic extremist on issues of civil rights and society, especially "Al-Nour" Though to be fair, maybe they aren't "extremist" per se in their culture and nowadays in their methods of power (the voting box, for now anyway) but their platforms are going to make civil rights, social rights and the economy even worse than they were before. Just like Iran. Oh well, if only Nasser would have been successful, they were have been one united secular arab world :p
@ProgressiveAudio I should point out I said fanatical, not extremist. Being an "extremist" is not always bad in every context, but being dogmatic and fanatical always is.
The sleeping giant quote actually didn't come from a movie, it was attributed to Yamamoto as early as 1942 which the film "Tora Tora Tora" popularized. But even if it did come from a film, who cares? Films are apart of culture and shape it, it doesn't automatically make it cheap if you refer to one?
@DawahFilms Well in proportion to population it's a whole lot. If it was a deterrent, it wouldn't happen (very much). Take Norway for example where their approach is actually a a deterrent, especially against recidivism vs. Saudia which has public executions all the time, and a huge problem with crime, so much that most travel agencies warn against it (especially if you're a woman) and you can see how well their system works, especially in comparison.
There arent that many. Unlike the U.S. and other places the appeal system doesnt take several years. More people die per year in Saudi, but that doesnt mean they have the same amount on death row or in prison for murder.
There is no significant data showing Islam, or any religion is the fastest growing in the world. It all depends on the region. In the US for example, non-religiosity is the fastest growing.
@DawahFilms Well, no, it's Islamic proselytism, and proselytism is not just "preaching to random people" via door to door or such. Proselytism is calling people to the religion by presenting it as true, which duh, is one of the whole points of Islam.
Can you even begin to consider the number of hours Dawa has spent attacking those who hold alternate views to his vis-á-vis religious cultism? Can you imagine what this young man could have accomplished had he invested that much time and energy constructively? What a waste......
Except my entire life is not manifested on YT "Mr. Psychologist". Perhaps you should stop projecting then since its obvious you arent getting this analysis from an understaning of me and what I do
Dawa appears to be a narcissist. A simple thematic analysis of his comments show him to have a defensive/aggressive personality. He is fixated on one upmanship and manifests a fragile ego. He will never accept anyone can possess more acumen in any given field despite his tender age. He is threatened by those of greater experience and academic accomplishment. He embodies the subjugation his religion has perpetrated like the cult member he is.
What are you talking about? Seriously, what sort of puzzle are you trying to connect together? The only thing that happened between me and HappyCabbie was that he told me that Tf00t PERSONALLY contacted the FBI on me and hten changed his mind. The fact that Tf00ts subs did that did not change.
Are you so confused you can't even understand what you're listening to? Seriously?
@alsdfalsdvjoen The user was named "jacky11991" who discovered thunderf00ts personal info through a phone number he provided, and even made a creepy video showcasing every step he took to find it.
@alsdfalsdvjoen That's the user name who did it, and presumably made the video "thunderf00t exposed" or what not as well. Nothing else is known, as far as I know. Some claim it was a friend of thunderf00t, but then why would he have to search for thunderf00ts info then?
@alsdfalsdvjoen "dawahfilms says he knows him." Now while I believe Kevin when he said he didn't distribute the info himself, I don't believe everything he says on the issue, or at least I'm skeptical. He claims a friend of thunderf00t distributed the info, but it was clear who did it, and the vid in question that was distributed shows the person had to search for the info, so that's obviously not a friend. Maybe a friend of thunderf00t gave Kevin the zip file? Who knows.
I wonder how many people after watching /watch?v=y9hKVSuGR38&feature=channel_video_title
would come to the same conclusion as me... that he said " i quit" because klingschor told him dixiecomic was joking... people that dint know who dawahfilms or thunderf00t
what do you want proof of? that you hunted for docs? that you claimed you quit after you found out dixiecomic was joking? that doesnt seem like proof you quit
@DawahFilms you claimed to have quit after klingchor told you dixiecomic was joking... the SAME DAY
someone looks for thunderf00ts docs. people find out dont like it... even people who "liked" him dint like it. or defended you I dont know your relationships with them
then an anonymous person came out with the docs... of course you wouldn't come out with them because of the "bad press"
Once again, correlation does not = causation and I never claimed any such thing. So no "lying" is happening here. You simply want to believe what you want.
You want proof of the FBI? Check my channel comments and the comments on Tf00ts videos. Second, you obviously have reading comprehension problems and cant watch videos very well. I said "Im quitting" to Dixie PRIOR to Kling telling me and me acknowledging it.
@DawahFilms why did you say you search for hours? more like months. according to happycabbie I thought you dint read your messages? so how do you know when you got klingschors message? and why dint klingschor say your new excuse in that video?
@DawahFilms I was simply making a salient observation. Religious devotion is a faith based belief, a belief in something for which no sensory proof and/or rational evidence exists. Against this backdrop your claim to be objective holds no merit. As for your assumption of atheist zealotry I do not insist you or anyone else adopt an atheist stance, ergo no proselytising exists on my part.
No, you weren't. You're being overly simplistic and naive in your understanding of knowledge. You seem to think knowledge only exists within your narrow conception of epistemology.
You should study Heidegger and our knowledge of art. Maybe then youll understand its not so easy to just place everything within the realm of the "rational".
@DawahFilms Forgive my naivety I only hold a degree in psychology. What would I know about the theory of knowledge and how the human mind's propensity for fantasy works.
@DawahFilms For a so called religious being you certainly don’t fear hubris. Good grief I claim one degree you claim many. I claim an understanding of the neurosciences and you claim philosophy trumps it. You are one narcissistic youngster. I suppose in mitigation most of us were during maturation, at some point most gain a modicum of humility.
As a psychologist you must not take your field very seriously since you're trying analyze my entire personality via a YT comment exchange. Id say then we are in agreement of my assessment. You seem rather ignorant of the philosophical underpinnings of your line of work
Muslims are still responsible for most terrorist attacks.
Google List of armed conflicts and attacks 2011 wiki.
Most of these attacks are not in the name of self-defence rather they are in the name of spreading a more extreme, exclusionary interpretation of Isalm.
@DawahFilms Interesting, you claim I am narrow minded yet you infer ignorance on the part of those who do not share your fundamentalist ideation. You type these comments you believe are poignant yet fail to see the glaring contradictions they expose. My judgement is based on a thematic analysis of your comments and videos (masses of material). I consider content, repetition, prosody, inflection, cadence, context etc before I deliver an informed professional diagnosis.
No sir, you're clearly narrow minded in that interpret knowledge (even knowledge that you have about psychology) THROUGH psychology when this is clearly for my field to deal with. Im critiquing you based on my professional diagnosis and pointing out your narrow sample size which proves you're a hack.
@DawahFilms Thematic analysis requires a sample size of one; I wonder how that fact slipped your mind. So to clarify you're an accredited expert on philosophy and also psychology. That’s very impressive however it does make your penchant for fantasy constructs all the more intriguing. Perhaps in this heightened emotive state you have lost access to your higher executive functionality. The Freudian angst and defensive/aggressive temperament you manifest are certainly indicative of such.
On the contrary, anyone who is serious about understanding a person would not view their online discussions with idiots who only seek to insult and degrade (you). I never claimed to be an expert in psychology, but an individual who understands the essence of knowledge under my philosophical specialty (Epistemology).
@DawahFilms Freud out of date? This from a man who bases his world view on the Quran a fictional work thousands of years old. Incidental comedy is always hilarious!
Lets try your Thematic analysis, shall we? You must be suffering from insecurity issues since you begin by psychologically analyzing people to fulfill the void in your own life. Your continuous bickering about me and first to bring up your degree shows you like to "one-up" people, which is indicative of Narcissism. Quite fun isn't this?
And by the new law here in america wouldn't thunderfoot be arrested for suspicion of being a Atheist terrorist? I think he could so This is for you thunderfoot, Watch your bad big brother is not just watching Muslims but you and every one in this country that even thinks of a terrorist! And its all thanks to People like Thunderfoot!
And before you haters hate on me I'am Native american/Mexican and now Muslim and I know how It feels to be hated 3X more then Just a Native, Just a Mexican, Just a Muslim! So please Keep Ugly comments about me not Being American or a Terrorist or what ever to your self!
thunderfoot needs to be banned from Youtube and even the internet, people like him make even going on the internet annoying! But that's why people covert to Real Islam, People see how hateful some Christians,Jews,Atheists, and even Muslims can be! Truth will set you free, as they say! And by the way as DawahFilms was talking about thunderfoot, I think Thunderfoot sounds like a Nazi when he talked about the west as gods and supermen!!!!!
Another great interview. I find it hard to agree with the usage of tf's docs, no matter how much he disgusts me, however. But I think it is incredibly disingenuous to equate his actions with those of TF's. Muslims are under constant legitimate threat in this country, and even if he was being oversensitive, it is understandable. Don't worry about all the thumbs downs you've received, it was obviously much more a reflection of certain individuals reactions to dawah than to the interview. Peace.
Yes, because we all know getting people to call the FBI on you and subsequently affecting your real personal life in a country that treats Muslims unfairly is EXACTLY the same as someone flagging your video and deleting your channel.
If you think Im a "dog", then certainly you must think dogs are more valuable than humans.
Thunderf00t preaches? Lol, Bullshit! Thunderf00t excludes others opinions? Again, Bullshit! Unlike Kevin, Thunderf00t doesn't block others from speaking & voicing his opinions. I'm not even going to comment on the doc dropping, everyone knows what happened. Kevin is a doc hunter. LMAO! "I "used" his docs?" What a POS.
@JonPaulPrimei realy enjoyed listening to this whole interview, Ali is a great brother, and i look up to him alot. May Allah ease his difficulties.Ameen
Great interview
MrParanormalist 1 week ago
50:35 OMG that's horrible. I made a response to this. (watch?v=mtOhcXhKaRI)
Water4Jeremiah 4 weeks ago in playlist Interviews
53:45
what a load of utter tripe.
being in a majority and disapproving of the minority = censorship?
*facepalm*
volound 1 month ago
@volound
No, demonizing them.
So Im guessing youre okay with persecution?
DawahFilms 1 month ago in playlist Interviews
@DawahFilms theres a difference between censoring someone and being part of a group that collectively drowns out their whining. you know this.
volound 1 month ago
@volound
Oh I see. So "drowning out" a platform isnt the same as censorship...yeah...that makes ALOT of sense...
DawahFilms 1 month ago in playlist Interviews
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thunderf00t invited dawahfilms to a public debate on blogtv, and waited. dawahfilms didnt turn up. dlandoncole turned up and attempted to debate thunderf00t. dawahfilms THEN turned up and his mic conveniently didnt work.
what a bullshit blatant liar.
volound 1 month ago
@volound
On the contrary, DPRjones set up a specific time for us to talk IN PRIVATE that worked around my work schedule. Tf00t used that info to schedule a LIVE PUBLIC "debate" while I was working to claim I was being a "coward".
Bullshit blatant liar? No, you're just clearly deluded.
DawahFilms 1 month ago in playlist Interviews
@DawahFilms thats odd. i remember you turning up hours late and muttering a few times, then leaving.
i may be deluded, but that seems unlikely, especially coming from you i.e. a guy that likes to pretend the qur'an doesnt contradict evolution.
volound 1 month ago
@volound
Yeah I walked in right after I got home from work and everyone was like "come in and talk to TF" when our original platform and date had been changed.
I think you need to get reality in check, son. If you honestly believe that was "fair" then theres something wrong with you.
DawahFilms 1 month ago in playlist Interviews
@DawahFilms "Tf00t used that info to schedule a LIVE PUBLIC "debate" while I was working to claim I was being a "coward"."
I suspected as much. The correct thing for TF to do would have been to contact you directly via PM and ask you when you'd be available to speak with him. But he didn't do that, did he?
JonPaulPrime 1 month ago
@DawahFilms Wether it was public or private bares no consequence in regards to your schedule or time frame (public or private would use equal time) because although yes there was a time designated via Dpr and TF you could have respecified when it is you would liked for it to take place.
What would be the point of making it private anyway?, If the general populace on YouTube were to not hear your arguments put forth then it would basically bare no meaning or consequence.
blade004 1 month ago in playlist Interviews 11
@blade004 you forget it's a two way street. Ali, how many time do I have to say this, PM'd Thunderf00t *repeatedly* in an attempt to civilly conclude their dispute. TF summarily ignored all correspondence from Ali. So for you to tell Ali that he should have "respecified" dates and times, is a bit ridiculous. Respecify to who, exactly? Someone who never responds to him? He shouldn't be forced to go through a middle man. TF should've had the guts to contact Ali personally.
JonPaulPrime 1 month ago
@blade004
Its nice that you seem to believe its MY responsibility for not adhering to a time that was not agreed upon prior. I trusted DPRjones and Tf00t to respect my schedule and I agreed to show up at a certain date. So its MY fault they broke that agreement?
DawahFilms 4 weeks ago in playlist Interviews
@volound "dawahfilms THEN turned up and his mic conveniently didnt work." You make it sound as though technical difficulties never happen on skype or blogtv. In my experience, even when watching TF & DLandonCole, technical problems were an issue for the first 30 minutes. In my interview with Ali, technical difficulties effected the overall quality of the recording. Did TF personally contact Ali prior to the "debate" as courtesy would dictate?
JonPaulPrime 1 month ago
@JonPaulPrime "You make it sound as though technical difficulties never happen on skype or blogtv."
no i dont. he may well have happened to have technical difficulties. i linked to a point in the video where dawahfilms pretends thunderf00t never offered a chance to resolve the situation at any point. all dawahfilms had to do was turn up and make his case against the "sleeping giant". he never did, he let dlandoncole turn up and do it instead.
volound 1 month ago 13
@volound "i linked to a point in the video where dawahfilms pretends thunderf00t never offered a chance to resolve the situation at any point. all dawahfilms had to do was turn up and make his case against the "sleeping giant". he never did, he let dlandoncole turn up and do it instead."
Um, no. Thunderf00t CHOSE DLandonCole after asking his subscribers to *vote* on which youtuber they wanted him to debate. Also I remember this: (cont)
JonPaulPrime 1 month ago
@JonPaulPrime @volound furthermore I specifically remember Dawahfilms being decidedly annoyed that Thunderf00t seemed to expect Ali to drop everything whenever TF decided to schedule a blogtv appearance at *thunderf00t's* convenience (in other words, TF didn't give two shits about Ali's personal schedule at all). Your attempt to spin this isn't working. Again, TF should have sent Ali a personal message and asked him when would be a good time. But TF didn't do that.
JonPaulPrime 1 month ago
@JonPaulPrime completely agree. thunderf00t wasnt being a paragon.
but he offered dawahfilms a chance to resolve the situation and it wasnt taken, for whatever reason. this contradicts what ali says in this video (that there was no such offer). that is my contention.
volound 1 month ago
@JonPaulPrime Well then how about you spin some documented facts that TF spun the schedule time to his advantage so as a debate could never take place as per his supposed lack of understanding for Ali's schedule? I am not saying that what you say didn't happen, but neither is there any proof your end that says that TF consistently worked against Ali's schedule. You say what you say but what's to say it's fact?.
blade004 1 month ago in playlist Interviews 4
@blade004 I've never claimed he consciously "worked against" Ali's schedule; I'm claiming he didn't give a shit about Ali's schedule. Let's be realistic about this. If Thunderf00t was *truly interested* in debating Ali, he could have easily made it happen. Instead, he chose to show up at a time Ali was NOT expecting, then let bystanders declare stuff like: "Well, Ali had his chance and chickened out."
JonPaulPrime 1 month ago
@JonPaulPrime I thought thunderf00t said he would never debate Kevin and assumed nothing was ever planned.
ProgressiveAudio 3 weeks ago
@ProgressiveAudio - Kevin? Are you talking about Dawah? I thought his name was Ali...
MrFrothinger 1 week ago
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ProgressiveAudio 1 week ago
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@MrFrothinger No, that's his "muslim name" (some sects of Islam require converts to change their name to a muslim i.e. arabish one). His real name is Kevin: watch?v=S5welLL544o
ProgressiveAudio 1 week ago
@ProgressiveAudio - he looks more like a Kev to me...
MrFrothinger 1 week ago
@MrFrothinger @Dawahfilms is my little Kevy ;)
ProgressiveAudio 1 week ago
@volound
I dont see how lying about when we're supposed to meet and how we're going to talk equates to someone trying to "resolve the issue". He clearly only wanted to take advantage of the scheduling difference to portray me as a coward while ducking from a legit convo with me. If he really wanted to "resolve" this he would have adhered to the schedule we agreed upon.
DawahFilms 4 weeks ago in playlist Interviews
Let me define peace for you DawahFilms. Peace is when people dont kill each other over disagreements.
gulbirk 1 month ago
@gulbirk
Obviously, moron.
DawahFilms 1 month ago in playlist Interviews
38:12 - thank you for your side of the story, DawahFilms. We all know that thunderf00t is full of crap.
smellyf00t1912 1 month ago
Dawahfilms wants to be Sir Lancelot. He usually ends up like Don Quixote.
gigsing 1 month ago
people are ESCAPING the oppression of America to the sanctuary of Muslim countries nice . . .
shinobiung 1 month ago in playlist Interviews
@shinobiung More like Kevin wants to be in a muslim country but isn't hardcore enough to live in Saudi Arabia or Afghanistan.
ProgressiveAudio 3 weeks ago
@ProgressiveAudio
Im getting really tired of you using my former name. I thought you KNEW that this is no longer my legal name and yet you continually insist on using it? WTF is wrong with you?
DawahFilms 3 weeks ago in playlist Interviews
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@DawahFilms "Im getting really tired of you using my former name. I thought you KNEW that this is no longer my legal name and yet you continually insist on using it? "
But many still use it. Klingschor for example. Why do you care if I use it?
ProgressiveAudio 3 weeks ago
@ProgressiveAudio
Or maybe I don't AGREE that Saudi Arabia or Afghanistan are "hardcore"?
Seriously what is up with your degrading comments?
DawahFilms 3 weeks ago in playlist Interviews
@DawahFilms "Or maybe I don't AGREE that Saudi Arabia or Afghanistan are "hardcore"?"
I don't think hardcore is a manner of opinion. By hardcore I mean fanatical, fundamentalist, etc. It seems you chose a fairly liberal muslim country, where you can say "Im living among muslims" but not be controlled too much. Or maybe not, it's just a guess :p I'm not sure how that was degrading.
ProgressiveAudio 3 weeks ago
@ProgressiveAudio
Because I believe I am living Islamically. There is nothing "hardcore" about Saudi Arabia. Its just wrong. To imply I should go there seems to suggest that Im not doing Islam correctly.
DawahFilms 2 weeks ago in playlist Interviews
@DawahFilms No no, I don't think there is any way to "correctly" live "islamically", I don't deal with that crap Kevin, I'm an atheist, not a muslim. It just seems you picked one of those liberal muslim countries where you can say "I'm living among muslims" but still have a hooker sit on your face and get wasted.
ProgressiveAudio 2 weeks ago
@DawahFilms Where did you live that you were in fear for your life? If you are saying you feared for your life in the United States then you are a blatant liar. Islamic countries persecute, rape and slaughter non Muslims indiscriminately. And the United States protects the liberties of all people regardless of race or religion. Islam ordains apartheid and bigotry! You have zero integrity!
dickknows 1 week ago
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people that lie want to hide something... dawahfilms lies about how long he hunted for docs. and he lies about why he "stopped"
when in fact he only claimed to stop because he was doc hunting with a troll
alsdfalsdvjoen 1 month ago
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alsdfalsdvjoen 1 month ago
Who's next on your interview list?
It'd be cool to see ConferenceReport down the line. I don't recall ever seeing anyone get an interview out of him.
Yamikaiba123 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
he would wait so that the person who was dochunting for months wouldnt be blamed
alsdfalsdvjoen 1 month ago
he said he sat on it for a week... i dont know but a "while" doesnt sound like a week to me
alsdfalsdvjoen 1 month ago
@ProgressiveAudio dawah films contradicts the reason he gave klingschor
alsdfalsdvjoen 1 month ago
@alsdfalsdvjoen What are you talking about? Klingschor didn't talk about this drama incident at all.
ProgressiveAudio 1 month ago
@ProgressiveAudio yes he did. he had one video about it.
so you believe dawahfilms stopped looking for docs when he said he did? because it was so sincere?
why does he lie about this friend of thunderf00t? because he made someone up.
alsdfalsdvjoen 1 month ago
@alsdfalsdvjoen I don't know what you're babbling about
ProgressiveAudio 1 month ago
@ProgressiveAudio i just think you dont want to answer
do you think dawahfilms quit when he claimed he did? because of the reason he gave? or he just claimed to stop because he was doc hunting with a troll.
why would he invent someone to blame it on? this "friend of thunderf00t" that contacted him after 4 months of doc dropping
alsdfalsdvjoen 1 month ago
@alsdfalsdvjoen Lol what
ProgressiveAudio 1 month ago
@ProgressiveAudio actually you do give credit to conspiracy theories... it was a conspiracy with dixiecomic.... nice word play though
alsdfalsdvjoen 1 month ago
@alsdfalsdvjoen You know, I took a glance at your channel, and you're totally a nonsensical multiple case fruitcake so I'm not surprised you spout out conspiracy theories.
ProgressiveAudio 1 month ago
@ProgressiveAudio that jacky is anonymous. and dawah was hunting for docs. got bad press so he released ir on a different youtube account
alsdfalsdvjoen 1 month ago
@alsdfalsdvjoen You'll have to prove it was Kevin, because it's a conspiracy theory regardless, and I give no credence to conspiracy theories.
ProgressiveAudio 1 month ago
@alsdfalsdvjoen It's funny that he didn't do what he says he did (contact his employers) right after releasing that zip file, but did it months afterwards. Why would Kevin do that? So your conspiracy theory doesn't hold up.
ProgressiveAudio 1 month ago
@ProgressiveAudio its not that hard to create a youtube account.... so i dont see how this proves the guy searching for months dint do it
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@alsdfalsdvjoen I don't know what this is a response too, so I'm just guessing here. I assume you're saying Kevin is the one who found thunderf00t's info and released it? There's no evidence of this, so I don't accept it. It's clear who did it, the user name is known. And there's no evidence Kevin even distributed it after finding the zip file of the info.
ProgressiveAudio 1 month ago
Not sure how the arab spring reversed perceptions or was a "game changer" after all fanatical islamic groups won in Egypt, practically everyones calling the "revolution" a failure there, at least if the goal was civil rights.
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I fail to see how these groups are "extremists".
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@DawahFilms Well they are islamic extremist on issues of civil rights and society, especially "Al-Nour" Though to be fair, maybe they aren't "extremist" per se in their culture and nowadays in their methods of power (the voting box, for now anyway) but their platforms are going to make civil rights, social rights and the economy even worse than they were before. Just like Iran. Oh well, if only Nasser would have been successful, they were have been one united secular arab world :p
ProgressiveAudio 1 month ago
@ProgressiveAudio I should point out I said fanatical, not extremist. Being an "extremist" is not always bad in every context, but being dogmatic and fanatical always is.
ProgressiveAudio 1 month ago
The sleeping giant quote actually didn't come from a movie, it was attributed to Yamamoto as early as 1942 which the film "Tora Tora Tora" popularized. But even if it did come from a film, who cares? Films are apart of culture and shape it, it doesn't automatically make it cheap if you refer to one?
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If the Saudi punishments towards crime work so well, why is there so many amputations, beheadings, etc?
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@ProgressiveAudio Not only that, why do travel guides always warn about crime when you go to Saudia...
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DawahFilms 1 month ago in playlist Interviews
@DawahFilms Well in proportion to population it's a whole lot. If it was a deterrent, it wouldn't happen (very much). Take Norway for example where their approach is actually a a deterrent, especially against recidivism vs. Saudia which has public executions all the time, and a huge problem with crime, so much that most travel agencies warn against it (especially if you're a woman) and you can see how well their system works, especially in comparison.
ProgressiveAudio 1 month ago
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There arent that many. Unlike the U.S. and other places the appeal system doesnt take several years. More people die per year in Saudi, but that doesnt mean they have the same amount on death row or in prison for murder.
DawahFilms 1 month ago in playlist Interviews
There is no significant data showing Islam, or any religion is the fastest growing in the world. It all depends on the region. In the US for example, non-religiosity is the fastest growing.
ProgressiveAudio 1 month ago
Well yes Islam does promote islamic proselytism, ironically it's called "Dawah"
ProgressiveAudio 1 month ago
@ProgressiveAudio
Dawah is different from proselytism. We only inform when necessary. We dont preach to random people.
DawahFilms 1 month ago in playlist Interviews
@DawahFilms Well, no, it's Islamic proselytism, and proselytism is not just "preaching to random people" via door to door or such. Proselytism is calling people to the religion by presenting it as true, which duh, is one of the whole points of Islam.
ProgressiveAudio 1 month ago
@DawahFilms Most proselytizing religions do not go door to door, since it's unsuccessful.
ProgressiveAudio 1 month ago
Can you even begin to consider the number of hours Dawa has spent attacking those who hold alternate views to his vis-á-vis religious cultism? Can you imagine what this young man could have accomplished had he invested that much time and energy constructively? What a waste......
BiodegradeableMan 1 month ago
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Except my entire life is not manifested on YT "Mr. Psychologist". Perhaps you should stop projecting then since its obvious you arent getting this analysis from an understaning of me and what I do
DawahFilms 1 month ago in playlist Interviews
Dawa appears to be a narcissist. A simple thematic analysis of his comments show him to have a defensive/aggressive personality. He is fixated on one upmanship and manifests a fragile ego. He will never accept anyone can possess more acumen in any given field despite his tender age. He is threatened by those of greater experience and academic accomplishment. He embodies the subjugation his religion has perpetrated like the cult member he is.
BiodegradeableMan 1 month ago
so how do you know that klingschor message was after you messaged dixiecomic? when you dont read your messages?
alsdfalsdvjoen 1 month ago
@alsdfalsdvjoen
I didnt check my inbox till AFTER my convo with Dixie. Its also nice that Dixie left out the LATER convo where I confront him about his deception.
DawahFilms 1 month ago in playlist Interviews
how is happycabbie not evidence you lie? lol
why dint klingschor say your new excuse? he actually said one that contradicts your new one
alsdfalsdvjoen 1 month ago
@alsdfalsdvjoen
What are you talking about? Seriously, what sort of puzzle are you trying to connect together? The only thing that happened between me and HappyCabbie was that he told me that Tf00t PERSONALLY contacted the FBI on me and hten changed his mind. The fact that Tf00ts subs did that did not change.
Are you so confused you can't even understand what you're listening to? Seriously?
DawahFilms 1 month ago in playlist Interviews
@DawahFilms why did you say you searched for hours and not months?
then you dont read the message klingschor sent you and quit the same day klingschor tells you... very sincere
how many days is there between may and September? months?
alsdfalsdvjoen 1 month ago
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who knows who dropped thunderf00ts docs?
/watch?v=VLPp3cTA3SE is happycabbie a liar too?
"Yeah, I looked for a couple hours several months prior to someone later finding them and then handing them out. All the evidence points to this"
I think what you meant by hours was dayS? or weeks? not months?
and thats just what I can verify
alsdfalsdvjoen 1 month ago
is klingschors video a lie?
the time is also on your conversation with dixie. so why would you say " i dint read the message yet" not "look at the time of the message.'
see it doesnt matter what you say but the facts matter. i
alsdfalsdvjoen 1 month ago
who knows who dropped thunderf00ts docs? and proof of the fbi
alsdfalsdvjoen 1 month ago
@alsdfalsdvjoen The user was named "jacky11991" who discovered thunderf00ts personal info through a phone number he provided, and even made a creepy video showcasing every step he took to find it.
ProgressiveAudio 1 month ago
@ProgressiveAudio an anonymous person? so dawahfilms says he knows who did it and who else?
alsdfalsdvjoen 1 month ago
@ProgressiveAudio who else knows the person who doc dropped thunderf00t? or is it like I said anonymous?
the real name actually knows the person. dawahfilms says he knows him. does coughlan? or klingschor? or you?
alsdfalsdvjoen 1 month ago
@alsdfalsdvjoen That's the user name who did it, and presumably made the video "thunderf00t exposed" or what not as well. Nothing else is known, as far as I know. Some claim it was a friend of thunderf00t, but then why would he have to search for thunderf00ts info then?
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@alsdfalsdvjoen "dawahfilms says he knows him." Now while I believe Kevin when he said he didn't distribute the info himself, I don't believe everything he says on the issue, or at least I'm skeptical. He claims a friend of thunderf00t distributed the info, but it was clear who did it, and the vid in question that was distributed shows the person had to search for the info, so that's obviously not a friend. Maybe a friend of thunderf00t gave Kevin the zip file? Who knows.
ProgressiveAudio 1 month ago
@alsdfalsdvjoen Klingschor had nothing to do with this drama, so I'm not sure why you're including him.
ProgressiveAudio 1 month ago
I wonder how many people after watching /watch?v=y9hKVSuGR38&feature=channel_video_title
would come to the same conclusion as me... that he said " i quit" because klingschor told him dixiecomic was joking... people that dint know who dawahfilms or thunderf00t
alsdfalsdvjoen 1 month ago
what do you want proof of? that you hunted for docs? that you claimed you quit after you found out dixiecomic was joking? that doesnt seem like proof you quit
alsdfalsdvjoen 1 month ago
@alsdfalsdvjoen
And I never claimed I quit after I learned Dixiecomic was joking. That's your delusion.
DawahFilms 1 month ago
amenakin still wants to censor criticism... so they dint resolve it
also doesn't know shit about biology while claims to be a biologist...
alsdfalsdvjoen 1 month ago in playlist Interviews
dawahfilms searches for docs? someone finds them? and releases them? hmm probably dawahfilms.... think about it
alsdfalsdvjoen 1 month ago
@alsdfalsdvjoen
Yeah, I looked for a couple hours several months prior to someone later finding them and then handing them out. All the evidence points to this.
Now where's yours?
DawahFilms 1 month ago
@DawahFilms you claimed to have quit after klingchor told you dixiecomic was joking... the SAME DAY
someone looks for thunderf00ts docs. people find out dont like it... even people who "liked" him dint like it. or defended you I dont know your relationships with them
then an anonymous person came out with the docs... of course you wouldn't come out with them because of the "bad press"
alsdfalsdvjoen 1 month ago
@alsdfalsdvjoen
Correlation does not = causation. I quit the same day, but prior.
And the person wasn't anonymous. We know who he is.
DawahFilms 1 month ago
@DawahFilms who knows who he is?
and /watch?v=y9hKVSuGR38&feature=channel_video_title same day... lol lie all you want.
alsdfalsdvjoen 1 month ago
@alsdfalsdvjoen
Once again, correlation does not = causation and I never claimed any such thing. So no "lying" is happening here. You simply want to believe what you want.
DawahFilms 1 month ago in playlist Interviews
@DawahFilms who is we? and show proof of the fbi...
the only person who thinks that you on sept 29 you were like "im quitting" the same day that klingschor told you he was joking is you
alsdfalsdvjoen 1 month ago
@alsdfalsdvjoen
You want proof of the FBI? Check my channel comments and the comments on Tf00ts videos. Second, you obviously have reading comprehension problems and cant watch videos very well. I said "Im quitting" to Dixie PRIOR to Kling telling me and me acknowledging it.
You have nothing but speculation.
DawahFilms 1 month ago in playlist Interviews
@DawahFilms thats not proof of anything... so cair doesn't keep documents? trolls exist and the fbi doesnt get involved in everything.
you said "I dont check my messages" not "I got that message after I told dixiecomic to stop" thats what klingschor claims
so why does klingschor claim you said "I dint read the comment yet" why dint you say "i responded at this time before I got your message"
alsdfalsdvjoen 1 month ago
@alsdfalsdvjoen
Seriously man you're pathetic. You want to make certain claims on barely any evidence yet you want me to produce documents to the T.
ITs obvious to me that you arent interested in the truth. Have fun in your self delusion.
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@DawahFilms why did you say you search for hours? more like months. according to happycabbie I thought you dint read your messages? so how do you know when you got klingschors message? and why dint klingschor say your new excuse in that video?
alsdfalsdvjoen 1 month ago
A religious zealot claiming to answer questions objectively? Oh dear, oh dear me.....
BiodegradeableMan 1 month ago
@BiodegradeableMan
An anti-theist zealot projecting? Seems like it.
DawahFilms 1 month ago
@DawahFilms I was simply making a salient observation. Religious devotion is a faith based belief, a belief in something for which no sensory proof and/or rational evidence exists. Against this backdrop your claim to be objective holds no merit. As for your assumption of atheist zealotry I do not insist you or anyone else adopt an atheist stance, ergo no proselytising exists on my part.
BiodegradeableMan 1 month ago
@BiodegradeableMan
No, you weren't. You're being overly simplistic and naive in your understanding of knowledge. You seem to think knowledge only exists within your narrow conception of epistemology.
You should study Heidegger and our knowledge of art. Maybe then youll understand its not so easy to just place everything within the realm of the "rational".
DawahFilms 1 month ago
@DawahFilms Forgive my naivety I only hold a degree in psychology. What would I know about the theory of knowledge and how the human mind's propensity for fantasy works.
BiodegradeableMan 1 month ago
@BiodegradeableMan
You don't because you come from a very narrow analytical perspective.
My apologies, I hold degrees in philosophy, so pardon me for legitimately dictating the conversation.
DawahFilms 1 month ago in playlist Interviews
@DawahFilms Dictating the conversation? Sounds rather depotic to me.
BiodegradeableMan 1 month ago
@DawahFilms For a so called religious being you certainly don’t fear hubris. Good grief I claim one degree you claim many. I claim an understanding of the neurosciences and you claim philosophy trumps it. You are one narcissistic youngster. I suppose in mitigation most of us were during maturation, at some point most gain a modicum of humility.
BiodegradeableMan 1 month ago
@BiodegradeableMan
As a psychologist you must not take your field very seriously since you're trying analyze my entire personality via a YT comment exchange. Id say then we are in agreement of my assessment. You seem rather ignorant of the philosophical underpinnings of your line of work
DawahFilms 1 month ago in playlist Interviews
@DawahFilms
Ali, you are wrong about this issue.
Muslims are still responsible for most terrorist attacks.
Google List of armed conflicts and attacks 2011 wiki.
Most of these attacks are not in the name of self-defence rather they are in the name of spreading a more extreme, exclusionary interpretation of Isalm.
iviewthetube 1 month ago
@iviewthetube
False. The Iraq war crime alone did more.
DawahFilms 1 month ago
@DawahFilms Interesting, you claim I am narrow minded yet you infer ignorance on the part of those who do not share your fundamentalist ideation. You type these comments you believe are poignant yet fail to see the glaring contradictions they expose. My judgement is based on a thematic analysis of your comments and videos (masses of material). I consider content, repetition, prosody, inflection, cadence, context etc before I deliver an informed professional diagnosis.
BiodegradeableMan 1 month ago
@BiodegradeableMan
No sir, you're clearly narrow minded in that interpret knowledge (even knowledge that you have about psychology) THROUGH psychology when this is clearly for my field to deal with. Im critiquing you based on my professional diagnosis and pointing out your narrow sample size which proves you're a hack.
DawahFilms 1 month ago in playlist Interviews
@DawahFilms Thematic analysis requires a sample size of one; I wonder how that fact slipped your mind. So to clarify you're an accredited expert on philosophy and also psychology. That’s very impressive however it does make your penchant for fantasy constructs all the more intriguing. Perhaps in this heightened emotive state you have lost access to your higher executive functionality. The Freudian angst and defensive/aggressive temperament you manifest are certainly indicative of such.
BiodegradeableMan 1 month ago
@BiodegradeableMan
On the contrary, anyone who is serious about understanding a person would not view their online discussions with idiots who only seek to insult and degrade (you). I never claimed to be an expert in psychology, but an individual who understands the essence of knowledge under my philosophical specialty (Epistemology).
Freud? Your textbooks must be out of date son.
DawahFilms 1 month ago in playlist Interviews
@DawahFilms Freud out of date? This from a man who bases his world view on the Quran a fictional work thousands of years old. Incidental comedy is always hilarious!
BiodegradeableMan 1 month ago
@BiodegradeableMan
Lets try your Thematic analysis, shall we? You must be suffering from insecurity issues since you begin by psychologically analyzing people to fulfill the void in your own life. Your continuous bickering about me and first to bring up your degree shows you like to "one-up" people, which is indicative of Narcissism. Quite fun isn't this?
DawahFilms 1 month ago in playlist Interviews
And by the new law here in america wouldn't thunderfoot be arrested for suspicion of being a Atheist terrorist? I think he could so This is for you thunderfoot, Watch your bad big brother is not just watching Muslims but you and every one in this country that even thinks of a terrorist! And its all thanks to People like Thunderfoot!
IslamicGamer 1 month ago in playlist Interviews
And before you haters hate on me I'am Native american/Mexican and now Muslim and I know how It feels to be hated 3X more then Just a Native, Just a Mexican, Just a Muslim! So please Keep Ugly comments about me not Being American or a Terrorist or what ever to your self!
IslamicGamer 1 month ago in playlist Interviews
thunderfoot needs to be banned from Youtube and even the internet, people like him make even going on the internet annoying! But that's why people covert to Real Islam, People see how hateful some Christians,Jews,Atheists, and even Muslims can be! Truth will set you free, as they say! And by the way as DawahFilms was talking about thunderfoot, I think Thunderfoot sounds like a Nazi when he talked about the west as gods and supermen!!!!!
IslamicGamer 1 month ago in playlist Interviews
Thanks for the conversation, Ali.
JonPaulPrime 1 month ago
Another great interview. I find it hard to agree with the usage of tf's docs, no matter how much he disgusts me, however. But I think it is incredibly disingenuous to equate his actions with those of TF's. Muslims are under constant legitimate threat in this country, and even if he was being oversensitive, it is understandable. Don't worry about all the thumbs downs you've received, it was obviously much more a reflection of certain individuals reactions to dawah than to the interview. Peace.
mojosideburns 1 month ago
@mojosideburns much appreciated, keep up the good work you are doing on your channel too.
JonPaulPrime 1 month ago
The whole debate with thunderfoot was just drama and over reaction about a few choice words..
But to out anyone using docs is as low as you can go.
Dawahfilms you are a dog delete TF docs and dont use them again you youtube coward.
I had the docs of an asshole that had my vids taken down and the loss of a channel.
I NEVER USED THEM .
IT was youtube that mailed me his docs and i had enough to find out where he lived.
I hope YT makes the same mistake with your docs.
australianews 1 month ago 2
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Yes, because we all know getting people to call the FBI on you and subsequently affecting your real personal life in a country that treats Muslims unfairly is EXACTLY the same as someone flagging your video and deleting your channel.
If you think Im a "dog", then certainly you must think dogs are more valuable than humans.
DawahFilms 1 month ago in playlist Interviews
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@DawahFilms you still bitching over this kevin..?
come on kevin ..
stop making death threats and none wants to bother with you..
really ..are you growing out of your taliban mood, yet..?
AmetReloads 1 month ago
@DawahFilms where is the proof he got people to do it? where is the proof it even happened?
alsdfalsdvjoen 1 month ago in playlist Interviews
Decent interview until the end.
sheri226 1 month ago in playlist More videos from JonPaulPrime
Of course he doesn't regret being an asshole, he IS an asshole!
ProtectingMyPups 1 month ago
Thunderf00t preaches? Lol, Bullshit! Thunderf00t excludes others opinions? Again, Bullshit! Unlike Kevin, Thunderf00t doesn't block others from speaking & voicing his opinions. I'm not even going to comment on the doc dropping, everyone knows what happened. Kevin is a doc hunter. LMAO! "I "used" his docs?" What a POS.
ProtectingMyPups 1 month ago
@ProtectingMyPups
No, he censors them by demonizing them and sending a tsunami of trolls.
Yes, I used them ethically.
DawahFilms 1 month ago in playlist Interviews
Very nice.
desiboyh 1 month ago in playlist Interviews
@JonPaulPrimei realy enjoyed listening to this whole interview, Ali is a great brother, and i look up to him alot. May Allah ease his difficulties.Ameen
thanks jonpaul for the upload.
Darknss2Light 1 month ago in playlist Interviews
Apologies for the audio problems (connection between Malaysia & America)
JonPaulPrime 1 month ago