I like how the Indian and Caribbean decendants question the role of "Sir" John. Life was fine and dandy for the upper class, but just horrid for the lower class. At least these people seem to see it.
I find Mr Raj Sing irritating in this episode. Pulling the race card, when not once did anyone else appear to make a reference to it. Anyone would assume that the reason he was lonely was that people resented him for being of Indian descent. In actual fact, it was because he sat at an awkward level, probably envied by the staff below stairs, and not fully part of the family.
I'm also finding that the 'lady' of the house (though she did visit once downstairs and attempt to make the servants' lives a bit easier) is becoming very comfortable at being at the top of the food chain. A bit too thank-less toward the staff. I would have loved to see her plucking pheasants and washing pots and to see John buffing the shoes of Mr. Edgar.
I felt sorry for Mr. Singh...he was in a difficult position. He couldn't make friends with the staff ('sir' John's orders) nor could he befriend the family. Quite a lonely position. As a social person myself, I would find that very difficult and probably would be ringing the bell often, just to have someone to talk to. :) The master of the house is a nut and truly sees himself as better than the others. He's fitting into the role much too well.
From the movie Gilford Park....it showed people who came to visit, brought their own servants. I would think that would be normal so the servants don't have to light fires in 20 rooms.
Freedom is needed. Freedom is one of the most important values. And it should not be but an empty word, a slogan - but, a real thing... Personal freedom, social freedom, spiritual and intellectual independence... True independence, indeed. :-)
I agree with Mr Singh on the matter of freedom - one really needs it and only then we realise its value, when we lose it somehow, because if we have something always, we don't appreciate it until we actually lose it - not only freedom, that might as well apply to everything else... :-)
The compromise of values for the sake of 'fitting-in' does not find my approval. One must be able to act upon his principles and when faith is an issue, for example, there is an exception to be allowed in terms of etiquette. For example, an Indian wouldn't eat meat for religious reasons and it must be understood and respected, not viewed as an insult to the host by refusing to try a dish at a dinner party - that is but an example of how it should work... That's my point of view. ;* :-) Bye...
I say that both the host and the guest must feel comfortable and respected at all times. Finding ourselves among other people requires adapting to their customs to some extent, which is beneficial for both sides. Minority usually adapts to majority. But majority must also respect the minority's rights and traditions. There must be a peaceful and a mutually beneficial cultural exchange instead of forcing someone to behave like everyone else. Adapting does not mean blind following, after all.
The behaviour which might be deemed strange or foreign to the host, must be respected, if is normal and acceptable by the guest's cultural standards. And so, the guest shall follow at least the basics of the host's etiquette. Adjustments should be made to avoid misunderstandings. Knowledge of foreign customs and tradition would be helpful here.
I believe the etiquette of the host's culture should be respected but the etiquette of the guest's culture too, if the event is cross-cultural. The host should not be incomodated or required to follow the hosts' rules as strictly as others, there should be made some exceptions and accomodations to make the guest feel comfortable. Also, neither the guest, nor the host should be surprised or disrespectful towards each other's cultural upbringing. That's how it works.
I don't know what to think when I see the face of the Butler looking with certain disapproval, even disregard at Mr Singh acting accordingly to the Indian etiquette... Every culture has got its own rules of etiquette and so do the Indians. There should be nothing strange about that but it seems that British people still are quite disrespective of other cultures, despite absorbing some elements of them, such as curry dishes, for example... ;*
That's right, caree is a kind of salty and spicy sause made of yoghurt and usually served with pakora which is made of chick peas flour and vegetables, sometimes fish or chicken is added to pakora. Curry is therefore misleading name for every single Indian stew. I have learned to prepare those dishes since I have been married and lived in desi (Indo-Pakistani) culture for 4 years... :-)
In my sense of justice, it is NEVER fair to invade another country, forcing its people (and our own) to engage in a war that is never justified and always useless. It always brings suffering, poverty, death and misery, and mourning... and slavery. Every nation has the right to freedom and independence, just as every human being deserves respect, regardless of their social status, age, economical position, ethnicity, faith etc. These are my principles and I abide by them. ;*
Jane Eyre is a great example. I understand Mr Singh's frustration therefore and I dare to say he made a good point with his question to the boy - how would you feel if someone invaded and took your country to rule it...? - to teach him respect for other people and their rights, regardless of their ethnicity and nationality or other differences. Remember, India was under British occupation that time and he works as a teacher while he might have been an Indian aristocrate, as they were saying...
Actually, governesses and private teachers were not servants, but independent employees at the courts and manors. School teachers, especially at private pensions for girls, had the status of a middle class and upper middle class people. Teachers who worked for aristocrates at their houses were at the same level, so they were not to be treated as servants, whether they were poor or not.
@nino71 I don't know but I have noticed he speaks with very different accent, particularly on 'r', that is not English 'r'. He is not the only one who speaks differently there. I thought British accents don't differ that much one from another, but if he is actually British from another part of the country, Wales or Scontland, or so, then he might sound clearly different than most native speakers of English language, I guess... ;*
The carribean man is very ignorant saying what he said about "rule brittannia". That song was written to commemorate the royal navy patrolling the seas rescuing africans from slave trader's ships. 50% of government revenue went on battling slavery, and 10% of the population of the big port cities were africans who came to be freed because slavery wasnt allowed in Britain - the first European power to outlaw it. He should get his facts straight before showing the outdated chip on his shoulder.
@ThankYouForTheDays1 Those exhorting others to "get their facts straight" are very often those mistaken or seeking to misinterpret. "Rule, Britannia!" was written in 1740, far before the Abolition of the Slave Trade Act of 1807. (The song was, for most of its history, used to stoke nationalistic sentiment, often against France.) By the way, Denmark was the first European power to abolish its slave trade, in 1803.
I never understood why Lady Oliff-Cooper chose Marie Antoinette, an Austrian who became a French Queen. The Franco-Austrian alliance was against England. Surely she could have chosen someone English: Elizabeth I, Anne Boleyn, Queen Victoria...
What's very odd is that the family are having this discussion about servants in front of the servants. This simply would never have happened during dinner. Later, after the covers were cleared or in the parlor after dinner, yes. During dinner with the servants by, no.
The interview from 25:27 forward is so revealing. It's kind of shocking how willing the privileged are to delude themselves for the sake of justifying their position. They just sit there and pretend that there is nothing wrong with the hierarchy--of steeping on others to keep themselves on the top
Sir John is a pompous ass who is drinking too much of his own kool-aid. Sing is neurotic and fragile psychologically, insecure and always ready to play the race card.
I think the TUTOR is a bit gay and an uppity one at that! I am positive that Sir John wanted to stick a cork in his mouth....the cef had diarrhea of the arse and the tutor had diarrhea of the mouth!
I think the TUTOR is a bit gay and an uppity one at that! I am positive that Sir John wanted to stick a cork in his mouth....he had diarrhea of the mouth!
Thanks so much. I do think that tutor is so arrogant and is such in real life. I am liking it more and more and just don't want it to end. I wish they did more of these shows.
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omg ive never seen such a pompous as that "sir" john. mofo
ericnowcool1 4 days ago
Mr. Raj Singh disappeared down the local Edwardian poof pub.
feindhortmit 1 week ago
i just saw that little lad. hey up u chup.. us a chimby !
sult78 2 weeks ago
I think Mr. Raj Sing was trying to get into the footmens' (Charles) pants
jerod910 4 weeks ago 4
@jerod910 So true! Im glad you see it too.
ARCHEROO78 2 weeks ago
Mr. Raj sing is an insecure racist
jerod910 4 weeks ago
What does the race card even mean ? What a meaningless phrase.
marshhen 1 month ago
I like how the Indian and Caribbean decendants question the role of "Sir" John. Life was fine and dandy for the upper class, but just horrid for the lower class. At least these people seem to see it.
orcaartist 1 month ago
"There must be some confluence in the character and the real man"....Ouch! (But brilliant).
theoko0707 1 month ago in playlist Manor House (Edwardian Country House) - FULL SERIES
Although Sir John annoys me more - he comes across so pompous!
Hannig 1 month ago 2
I find Mr Raj Sing irritating in this episode. Pulling the race card, when not once did anyone else appear to make a reference to it. Anyone would assume that the reason he was lonely was that people resented him for being of Indian descent. In actual fact, it was because he sat at an awkward level, probably envied by the staff below stairs, and not fully part of the family.
Hannig 1 month ago 2
25:30 "It works. This hierarchy works for everyone" - Repulsive sentiment.
theoko0707 1 month ago
Dear Charlie, there was a reason Mr. Raj Sing kept ringing you to his room - and I don't blame him!
theoko0707 1 month ago
The tutor is a fish! Smh drama queen....
QuintessenceZeta 2 months ago in playlist Manor House (Edwardian Country House) - FULL SERIES
I'm also finding that the 'lady' of the house (though she did visit once downstairs and attempt to make the servants' lives a bit easier) is becoming very comfortable at being at the top of the food chain. A bit too thank-less toward the staff. I would have loved to see her plucking pheasants and washing pots and to see John buffing the shoes of Mr. Edgar.
artist45 2 months ago 2
I felt sorry for Mr. Singh...he was in a difficult position. He couldn't make friends with the staff ('sir' John's orders) nor could he befriend the family. Quite a lonely position. As a social person myself, I would find that very difficult and probably would be ringing the bell often, just to have someone to talk to. :) The master of the house is a nut and truly sees himself as better than the others. He's fitting into the role much too well.
artist45 2 months ago
From the movie Gilford Park....it showed people who came to visit, brought their own servants. I would think that would be normal so the servants don't have to light fires in 20 rooms.
joraejean 2 months ago
How nice, to hear him acknowledge and appreciate the work of the servants, at least one person out there! :-) Good for him, Mr Singh... :-)
aishakafeel 2 months ago
Freedom is needed. Freedom is one of the most important values. And it should not be but an empty word, a slogan - but, a real thing... Personal freedom, social freedom, spiritual and intellectual independence... True independence, indeed. :-)
aishakafeel 2 months ago
I agree with Mr Singh on the matter of freedom - one really needs it and only then we realise its value, when we lose it somehow, because if we have something always, we don't appreciate it until we actually lose it - not only freedom, that might as well apply to everything else... :-)
aishakafeel 2 months ago
The compromise of values for the sake of 'fitting-in' does not find my approval. One must be able to act upon his principles and when faith is an issue, for example, there is an exception to be allowed in terms of etiquette. For example, an Indian wouldn't eat meat for religious reasons and it must be understood and respected, not viewed as an insult to the host by refusing to try a dish at a dinner party - that is but an example of how it should work... That's my point of view. ;* :-) Bye...
aishakafeel 2 months ago
I say that both the host and the guest must feel comfortable and respected at all times. Finding ourselves among other people requires adapting to their customs to some extent, which is beneficial for both sides. Minority usually adapts to majority. But majority must also respect the minority's rights and traditions. There must be a peaceful and a mutually beneficial cultural exchange instead of forcing someone to behave like everyone else. Adapting does not mean blind following, after all.
aishakafeel 2 months ago
The behaviour which might be deemed strange or foreign to the host, must be respected, if is normal and acceptable by the guest's cultural standards. And so, the guest shall follow at least the basics of the host's etiquette. Adjustments should be made to avoid misunderstandings. Knowledge of foreign customs and tradition would be helpful here.
aishakafeel 2 months ago
I believe the etiquette of the host's culture should be respected but the etiquette of the guest's culture too, if the event is cross-cultural. The host should not be incomodated or required to follow the hosts' rules as strictly as others, there should be made some exceptions and accomodations to make the guest feel comfortable. Also, neither the guest, nor the host should be surprised or disrespectful towards each other's cultural upbringing. That's how it works.
aishakafeel 2 months ago
I don't know what to think when I see the face of the Butler looking with certain disapproval, even disregard at Mr Singh acting accordingly to the Indian etiquette... Every culture has got its own rules of etiquette and so do the Indians. There should be nothing strange about that but it seems that British people still are quite disrespective of other cultures, despite absorbing some elements of them, such as curry dishes, for example... ;*
aishakafeel 2 months ago
That's right, caree is a kind of salty and spicy sause made of yoghurt and usually served with pakora which is made of chick peas flour and vegetables, sometimes fish or chicken is added to pakora. Curry is therefore misleading name for every single Indian stew. I have learned to prepare those dishes since I have been married and lived in desi (Indo-Pakistani) culture for 4 years... :-)
aishakafeel 2 months ago
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In my sense of justice, it is NEVER fair to invade another country, forcing its people (and our own) to engage in a war that is never justified and always useless. It always brings suffering, poverty, death and misery, and mourning... and slavery. Every nation has the right to freedom and independence, just as every human being deserves respect, regardless of their social status, age, economical position, ethnicity, faith etc. These are my principles and I abide by them. ;*
aishakafeel 2 months ago
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aishakafeel 2 months ago
Jane Eyre is a great example. I understand Mr Singh's frustration therefore and I dare to say he made a good point with his question to the boy - how would you feel if someone invaded and took your country to rule it...? - to teach him respect for other people and their rights, regardless of their ethnicity and nationality or other differences. Remember, India was under British occupation that time and he works as a teacher while he might have been an Indian aristocrate, as they were saying...
aishakafeel 2 months ago
Actually, governesses and private teachers were not servants, but independent employees at the courts and manors. School teachers, especially at private pensions for girls, had the status of a middle class and upper middle class people. Teachers who worked for aristocrates at their houses were at the same level, so they were not to be treated as servants, whether they were poor or not.
aishakafeel 2 months ago
Rhaj sing is gaaay! HAHAH
brandrider12 3 months ago
What's Mr Edgar accent? Is he a Northener?
nino71 3 months ago
@nino71 I don't know but I have noticed he speaks with very different accent, particularly on 'r', that is not English 'r'. He is not the only one who speaks differently there. I thought British accents don't differ that much one from another, but if he is actually British from another part of the country, Wales or Scontland, or so, then he might sound clearly different than most native speakers of English language, I guess... ;*
aishakafeel 2 months ago
@nino71 He's scottish
girlhitsbus 2 months ago
It's nice to see the chef accepting the help of the staff to prepare the food. His thank you was so humble and sincere. He knows his stuff.
jparker59able 4 months ago 2
Mr. Singh is a creepy little gay boy!
eurogalncal 4 months ago in playlist More videos from moosegeek123
@eurogalncal theres nothing wrong with gays people love who they love. mr singh is just a creepy little pedofile lol
xoxannabelxoxo 4 months ago
Champagne with colored water. ;)
AndreaMimi1984 4 months ago
The carribean man is very ignorant saying what he said about "rule brittannia". That song was written to commemorate the royal navy patrolling the seas rescuing africans from slave trader's ships. 50% of government revenue went on battling slavery, and 10% of the population of the big port cities were africans who came to be freed because slavery wasnt allowed in Britain - the first European power to outlaw it. He should get his facts straight before showing the outdated chip on his shoulder.
ThankYouForTheDays1 4 months ago 2
@ThankYouForTheDays1 Those exhorting others to "get their facts straight" are very often those mistaken or seeking to misinterpret. "Rule, Britannia!" was written in 1740, far before the Abolition of the Slave Trade Act of 1807. (The song was, for most of its history, used to stoke nationalistic sentiment, often against France.) By the way, Denmark was the first European power to abolish its slave trade, in 1803.
niclasjt 2 months ago
The lady is dull.
Freesia84 5 months ago in playlist PBS Period Houses series
Hooray, Monsieur can smile!! He's endearing after all. But Mr Singh is treacherous.
brucebrucelois 5 months ago
Hooray, Monsieur can smile!! He's endearing after all.
brucebrucelois 5 months ago
LOL thar tutot is soooo gay!
sax2003 5 months ago 3
@sax2003 *tutor! :P
sax2003 5 months ago
Darkus Howe, thanks god for him!
dameaustel 5 months ago
Haaaaaaa. Sir John got called out.
fibotron85 6 months ago
its hard to decide who is more annoying, sir john or mr raj singh
Hannig 6 months ago 3
Mr. Singh's voice is fascinatingly androgynous...
SoleIntention 6 months ago 10
Mr Singh is a drama queen.....
As for curry powder out of a tin!!! How rude! You NEVER insult your host like that! O_O
fishinthflow 6 months ago 5
@fishinthflow Drama queen...lol...I was just about to post those same words.
NotableXception 6 months ago
Or was it Prima Donna? ...either way...
NotableXception 6 months ago
@NotableXception
He could have helped out in the kitchen, being so proficient at mincing ;oD
fishinthflow 6 months ago
Ironically, Marie Antoinette is perfect for her. She seems a bit dim to me.
ginaraquel 6 months ago
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ginaraquel 6 months ago
I love how Jonathan, while dressed as Bonnie Prince Charlie, calls for "three cheers for the British Empire". Does he know who Prince Charles was?
calinrua 7 months ago
Mister Singh thanked Charles for being "behind" him...ey? he gives me the creeps.
tohmiswin 7 months ago 3
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tohmiswin 7 months ago
I never understood why Lady Oliff-Cooper chose Marie Antoinette, an Austrian who became a French Queen. The Franco-Austrian alliance was against England. Surely she could have chosen someone English: Elizabeth I, Anne Boleyn, Queen Victoria...
FlowerChild65 7 months ago 4
Raj... and Charles... 36:01... urm.... is he hitting on Charles, by any chance?
justinlimkt 7 months ago
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justinlimkt 7 months ago
i LOVE the guy from the Caribbean... dropping truth bombs left and right!
Gloomoo 8 months ago 6
yes that black guy was right
sir john fit to that love glove to hand i think he is fucking prick in real life too
katarinavalencia1113 8 months ago 2
What's very odd is that the family are having this discussion about servants in front of the servants. This simply would never have happened during dinner. Later, after the covers were cleared or in the parlor after dinner, yes. During dinner with the servants by, no.
nokomarie1963 8 months ago 6
Yeah entertaining for over 50 people is easy, if you have a bunch of people running around like headless chickens doing the work for you.
rosemsmunoz 8 months ago 8
Where did he spitfires come from and the army fatigues if this is supposed to be 1910?
lazenbear 8 months ago
Mr. Edgar sounds just like Mrs. Doubtfire
ohxpooxyou 8 months ago
@ohxpooxyou I was thinking the same thing.
jparker59able 4 months ago
The Chef reminds me of Mr. Bean.
sirensealight 9 months ago 4
Where is Mr. Edgar from? Is he Scottish?
sirensealight 9 months ago
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boleyn20 9 months ago
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tangentNZ 10 months ago
The interview from 25:27 forward is so revealing. It's kind of shocking how willing the privileged are to delude themselves for the sake of justifying their position. They just sit there and pretend that there is nothing wrong with the hierarchy--of steeping on others to keep themselves on the top
faerietaleredux 10 months ago 5
Master Guy is the cutest little boy!! He's hilarious!
scarlett721 10 months ago 5
Did I hear the line "Mr. Edgar high on crack" in that song?!
EffingAndJeffing 10 months ago 3
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the tudor definetly likes it up the ass
Artherus1 10 months ago
Sir John is a pompous ass who is drinking too much of his own kool-aid. Sing is neurotic and fragile psychologically, insecure and always ready to play the race card.
kaunas88 10 months ago 30
That teacher is such a nelly poof!
gtownlad77 10 months ago
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bethie91 10 months ago
I think the TUTOR is a bit gay and an uppity one at that! I am positive that Sir John wanted to stick a cork in his mouth....the cef had diarrhea of the arse and the tutor had diarrhea of the mouth!
truediabolique69 10 months ago 2
I think the TUTOR is a bit gay and an uppity one at that! I am positive that Sir John wanted to stick a cork in his mouth....he had diarrhea of the mouth!
truediabolique69 10 months ago
I think the TUTOR is a bit gay and an uppity one at that!
truediabolique69 10 months ago
The butler Mr Edgar is 10 times more a gentleman than bloody Sir John.
stellagray75 11 months ago 70
@stellagray75 You're right... That is true... ;*
aishakafeel 2 months ago
Thanks so much. I do think that tutor is so arrogant and is such in real life. I am liking it more and more and just don't want it to end. I wish they did more of these shows.
dalehouse20 1 year ago 8
Thanks for the uploads!
Major brat alert = Guy! Aaagh!
HollyApple777 1 year ago
god i cant stand sir john, what an ass
wealthe0w 1 year ago 7
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moosegeek123 1 year ago