also the only tuning company that thinks of aircon usage with the radiator/intercooler set up, may be a few grand more but worth it! the level mount, v-mount, and badly set up front mounted intercooler sets can really limit airflow to either the condenser, radiator, or intercooler and although they work, they work no where near as well as FEEDs!. aircon in amemiya 7s dun work! really bad for japan in the summer.
"grey" car in the video,its called ガンメタ号 (gunmetal gou). the amemiya 7 hasn't changed much since this video, other than the green greddy body kit. still same tuning philosophy. FEED on the other hand changed their suspension set up, port tuning to the current nur-spec engine, and down sized the turbine to the TO4S for the Gunsai in 09. that car was crazy, but the 30th anniversary model (2012) is better.I got a 7 last year and finally received the finished FEED 7 last week!keeping it forever!
@MrDJWn program called best motoring, division of program is hot version. type hot version international touge on the search thing u'll find full vids
These have to be the two most legendary RX-7's... at least to me they are... I've known about Amemiya since I was about 10 years old, but only recently about Fujita Engineering... It's starting to feel like Amemiya is like Mugen and Fujita like Spoon, but for the rotary world... Damn it's AWESOME! What a race.
bigger turbo means stronger turbo lag.. part of that.. it all about balance in touge run.. running in between 250hp to 350hp will be the best.. as bigger hp will make it hard to control in both entering and exiting corner. high hp make the car easier to over-steer when they try to use acceleration to attack the corner but steer more will give under-steer problems.. other than that.. smaller hp allow the driver to give full throttle while attacking the corner. it take advantage there..
wow the audio transcriber thingy majig is horrible. for a really long japenese sentence that at least lasted 4 or 5 seconds gave me a translation of "undoubtly"
after this race, Fujita (grey one) changed the turbo setup to an older T04 turbo, its not ball bearing, and boost builds up thru the rev range, as opposed to being really peaky with the GT35R (the GT series turbos, are only good for Drag racing, big power and dumps it all at once) Once he changed it, the car was drivable on this road, and Beat the RE amemiya car, and now holds the Touge monster title
after this race, Fujita (grey one) changed the turbo setup to an older T04 turbo, its not ball bearing, and boost builds up thru the rev range, as opposed to being really peaky with the GT35R (the GT series turbos, are only good for Drag racing, big power and dumps it all at once) Once he changed it, the car was drivable on this road, and Beat the RE amemiya car, and now holds the Touge monster title
This shows the different tuning philosophy's of each garage, The Blue one (RE AMEMIYA) uses stock twin turbos, just made to flow more, this allows the boost to be steady, and no so peaky, so its very drivable, its still putting out 400HP at the flywheel.
The grey one, uses porting of the engine, together with a big turbo, a GT35R (a ball bearing turbo) these turbos spool fast, and dump huge amounts of power and very peaky, as u see its almost un drivable in tight roads
The Amemiya car has 350hp and the FEED car has 500hp. You are correct in that while the Amemiya has much less it's power-band is much more usable. To be fair the Amemiya car was designed and built for touge use and the FEED car was built for circuit use.
have u seen the amuse S2000 V J's S2000?? its the normal S2000 not the GT1 version, that was the best race ever in this series, they were nose to tail the whole way.
@seth570123 well to to be correct, it is technically Twin turbos, weather they operate sequentially of not
the mechanism of action doesn't negate the fact there are 2 turbos. But yes you are 100% correct, they are sequential, meaning first turbo comes in very early (its quite small) and then it transitions over to the bigger one at 4000 rpm ish. for a sequential setup its very smooth if you have ever driven One you will kno wat im talking about
@seinfeld11123 Stock FD turbos are the same size 50mmx2 before 99 and 51mmx2 after... Its just the increase in CFMs as both turbos spin together af the top of the power band.
So turbo #1 until ~3000
Turbo #2 starts to spool, but boost is held
at 4500rpm the valve holding the second turbos pressure is released
After that both turbos spool until redline/shift
Hence the stock 10-8-10 boost pattern, the -8- is where the valve opens and a small difference causes the fluctuation.
@vortexau all the car's that are brought in for the Touge Battle are tuned for this specific track by the tuners themselves. FEED FD has been doing damages on this track for a long time given. And for this video it still has the same setup.
The tuners give all they can in this segment of the tv show, its mainly watched for this in Japan. ( like in Top Gear we wanna se the Stig's lap).
Amemiya FD is simply built better. And Amemiya would win on the track too.
@KarlheinzSchelker the show is Best Motoring which is mainly stock cars reviews and races, often on Tsukuba (it plays-print once a month, they have magasine, videos and dvd),... then the segment Hot Version that plays every 2 months, which features battles of TUNED cars (touge and race tracks), and some other segment called Video Special. which plays on a non regular basis and have episodes that mostly feature 1 car.
It might better if FEED try their hands on drag race...turbo tune always get killed by NA tune on twisty mountain pass...as for the RE, it might be a good idea to use bigger engine if they wish to stay competitive in Super GT...
wow both FD's are so sexy and fast as hell Amemiya FTMFW! Think the FEED FD had to big of turbo so laged after corners and had to brake to much just to slow down
also the only tuning company that thinks of aircon usage with the radiator/intercooler set up, may be a few grand more but worth it! the level mount, v-mount, and badly set up front mounted intercooler sets can really limit airflow to either the condenser, radiator, or intercooler and although they work, they work no where near as well as FEEDs!. aircon in amemiya 7s dun work! really bad for japan in the summer.
ax0618 1 week ago
"grey" car in the video,its called ガンメタ号 (gunmetal gou). the amemiya 7 hasn't changed much since this video, other than the green greddy body kit. still same tuning philosophy. FEED on the other hand changed their suspension set up, port tuning to the current nur-spec engine, and down sized the turbine to the TO4S for the Gunsai in 09. that car was crazy, but the 30th anniversary model (2012) is better.I got a 7 last year and finally received the finished FEED 7 last week!keeping it forever!
ax0618 1 week ago
how does this program call ? Or wathever this is
MrDJWn 1 month ago
@MrDJWn program called best motoring, division of program is hot version. type hot version international touge on the search thing u'll find full vids
ax0618 1 week ago
@ax0618 ok thnx :)
MrDJWn 1 week ago
Effudiii Sanyess!!
gb906 1 month ago
2:23.. he says "when i put these shades on, i will lose hahah"
blahblop123 2 months ago
it's unfortunate that you put a wing like these guys use on your car and you're automatically labeled a ricer
n11lc2 3 months ago
@n11lc2 thay put a wing on the car 4 more grip
SideWaysiscool 3 weeks ago
@SideWaysiscool which is why it's unfortunate you're labeled a ricer for using one by idiots
n11lc2 3 weeks ago
@n11lc2 Ricers r people who make the car look like shit and these people in vid actually no how to tune their car right
SideWaysiscool 3 weeks ago
@SideWaysiscool i'm not saying they're ricers, i'm saying some people think you're a ricer just for having a wing.
n11lc2 3 weeks ago
@n11lc2 if the car looks shit then it's ricer
SideWaysiscool 3 weeks ago
@SideWaysiscool well these cars look awesome
n11lc2 3 weeks ago
@n11lc2 i no they're awesome i wish i had a RX7 but i guess my AE86 will do
SideWaysiscool 3 weeks ago
feed FD3s dislike this lol
ReaperFC3 3 months ago
These have to be the two most legendary RX-7's... at least to me they are... I've known about Amemiya since I was about 10 years old, but only recently about Fujita Engineering... It's starting to feel like Amemiya is like Mugen and Fujita like Spoon, but for the rotary world... Damn it's AWESOME! What a race.
96eg3 3 months ago
@96eg3 nah, Mazdaspeed as Mugen since there both the in-house tuners and Amemiya as Spoon and Fujita as J's Racing
TakumiFuji01 3 months ago
@TakumiFuji01 Oh yeah... well I just made myself look a bit daft... forgot about Mazdaspeed ><
96eg3 3 months ago
2:19 = sunglass curry master
funnyblackmans 4 months ago
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funnyblackmans 4 months ago
Which asshole disliked?
Minecraftiaz 4 months ago
@Minecraftiaz you can only dislike because its not in HD but thats about it. "I like this one"
mackdaddie80 2 months ago
someone wanna tell me what rims are on the grey rx?
GodsNotReal95 4 months ago
@GodsNotReal95 I THINK it's Advan RG's or something like that
96eg3 3 months ago
FD3S RX7 is very beautiful!
dorikin6969 5 months ago
いよっ魔王‼ε=ε=ε=ε=ε=ε=┌(; ̄◇ ̄)┘
kaidrift 6 months ago
Amemiya knows, their shit!
SaintStyn 7 months ago
ive never seen mr amemiya's car lose! soo beasty
adotwhite 7 months ago
"Most guys the next week thank you"
LOL wtf?
wajalama 7 months ago
bigger turbo means stronger turbo lag.. part of that.. it all about balance in touge run.. running in between 250hp to 350hp will be the best.. as bigger hp will make it hard to control in both entering and exiting corner. high hp make the car easier to over-steer when they try to use acceleration to attack the corner but steer more will give under-steer problems.. other than that.. smaller hp allow the driver to give full throttle while attacking the corner. it take advantage there..
seven6398 8 months ago
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seven6398 8 months ago
wow the audio transcriber thingy majig is horrible. for a really long japenese sentence that at least lasted 4 or 5 seconds gave me a translation of "undoubtly"
SyCannon 8 months ago
@yoko54321jp みすりました^^; あまさんあまさんいってるからてっきりあまみやかと^^;
STAGEAxkakifly 9 months ago
@yoko54321jp そうなんですか(゜_゜) あまさん
STAGEAxkakifly 9 months ago
I have that blue Rx7... In Gt5 :(
Jappeke007 9 months ago
the silver one was way more snappy but nobody can beat keiichi
smRtrdanu1 10 months ago
nice FD's but some words 4 the FEED RX7, "power without control..."
p1inthestreets 10 months ago
あめみや?あまみやだお
STAGEAxkakifly 10 months ago
@STAGEAxkakifly RE雨宮(あめみや)自動車ですよ〜
yoko54321jp 9 months ago
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こんなことやるからDQNが真似して一般者に迷惑かけたり
巻き添え事故起こしたりするんだろ
ガードレール破って谷底に落ちて死ねよ
1992ssk 11 months ago
"..And that will allow drugs that are not the defense that goal get into the woodwork comment.." woah.. amazing.. hahaha
KOERLMK 11 months ago
Random girl in undies and sexy rx7s. good video
icunow1 1 year ago
i love the high flow twin turbo fd
282magoo 1 year ago
( ?v=jigavL3Uhs4 )Add utube com /watch then paste the link in the brackets, this is once the car was updated to the better turbo
seinfeld11123 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
after this race, Fujita (grey one) changed the turbo setup to an older T04 turbo, its not ball bearing, and boost builds up thru the rev range, as opposed to being really peaky with the GT35R (the GT series turbos, are only good for Drag racing, big power and dumps it all at once) Once he changed it, the car was drivable on this road, and Beat the RE amemiya car, and now holds the Touge monster title
seinfeld11123 1 year ago
after this race, Fujita (grey one) changed the turbo setup to an older T04 turbo, its not ball bearing, and boost builds up thru the rev range, as opposed to being really peaky with the GT35R (the GT series turbos, are only good for Drag racing, big power and dumps it all at once) Once he changed it, the car was drivable on this road, and Beat the RE amemiya car, and now holds the Touge monster title
seinfeld11123 1 year ago
This shows the different tuning philosophy's of each garage, The Blue one (RE AMEMIYA) uses stock twin turbos, just made to flow more, this allows the boost to be steady, and no so peaky, so its very drivable, its still putting out 400HP at the flywheel.
The grey one, uses porting of the engine, together with a big turbo, a GT35R (a ball bearing turbo) these turbos spool fast, and dump huge amounts of power and very peaky, as u see its almost un drivable in tight roads
seinfeld11123 1 year ago 34
@seinfeld11123
The Amemiya car has 350hp and the FEED car has 500hp. You are correct in that while the Amemiya has much less it's power-band is much more usable. To be fair the Amemiya car was designed and built for touge use and the FEED car was built for circuit use.
Evanofthecosmos 1 year ago 27
@Evanofthecosmos
absolutely here is the fujita car winning after he changed the turbo to more drivable set up
( ?v=jigavL3Uhs4 )Add utube com /watch then paste the link in the brackets, this is once the car was updated to the better turbo
seinfeld11123 1 year ago
you are right the RE car has 350 hp at the wheels, 400 @ flywheel
seinfeld11123 1 year ago
have u seen the amuse S2000 V J's S2000?? its the normal S2000 not the GT1 version, that was the best race ever in this series, they were nose to tail the whole way.
seinfeld11123 1 year ago
@Evanofthecosmos Yes if you want a successful car you need to build it for the exact conditions in which it will be used
TheScizzorhands 8 months ago
@Evanofthecosmos actually teh Amemiya has 380 and FEED has like 450
TakumiFuji01 5 months ago
@Evanofthecosmos RE Amemyia has 400 ish hp now :)
fstylezkrNNN 5 months ago
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seth570123 1 year ago
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seth570123 1 year ago
@seth570123 well to to be correct, it is technically Twin turbos, weather they operate sequentially of not
the mechanism of action doesn't negate the fact there are 2 turbos. But yes you are 100% correct, they are sequential, meaning first turbo comes in very early (its quite small) and then it transitions over to the bigger one at 4000 rpm ish. for a sequential setup its very smooth if you have ever driven One you will kno wat im talking about
seinfeld11123 1 year ago
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seth570123 1 year ago
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seth570123 1 year ago
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seth570123 1 year ago
@seinfeld11123 Stock FD turbos are the same size 50mmx2 before 99 and 51mmx2 after... Its just the increase in CFMs as both turbos spin together af the top of the power band.
So turbo #1 until ~3000
Turbo #2 starts to spool, but boost is held
at 4500rpm the valve holding the second turbos pressure is released
After that both turbos spool until redline/shift
Hence the stock 10-8-10 boost pattern, the -8- is where the valve opens and a small difference causes the fluctuation.
TEDDERAMA 1 year ago
the RE Amemiya FD is in GT5!!
TakumiFuji01 1 year ago 2
rotary power forever!!!
rotary02 1 year ago
awesome ^^ good speed two FD3S RX7.
wonghusky 1 year ago
ROFL @ Captions, that's funny as fuck.
Boyneedsgames 1 year ago
the truth is that i can see night!
lawaiia808 1 year ago
hahaha @ 1:24 "most guys the next week thank yo"
click the CC button
282magoo 1 year ago
stacey koon
AngryLarry 1 year ago
RX7 WINS #LOL
sooperfukker 1 year ago
damn i love FD's
cocx88 1 year ago
that FEED FD has some mad traction issues. Lol at the captions thoough.
rofLopolous 1 year ago
雨宮のFD好きだけど。
一本目は藤田の勝ちでしょ…
Investor455 1 year ago
only word i understand ~ sunglass....
770827 1 year ago
魔王のRE雨宮か・・・
legendofsiegfried 1 year ago
WTF, it says bobbie at 0:24 if you turn on the captions XD
wajalama 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
mean battle u find a better performance vehicle in the world for under 50,000 grand love them an owned many
TheRotaholixz1 1 year ago
mean battle u find a better performance vehicle in the world for under 50,000 grand love them an owned many
TheRotaholixz1 1 year ago
mean battle u find a better performance vehicle in the world for under 50,000 grandlove them an owned many
TheRotaholixz1 1 year ago
Very real man dreams of a three sum with these two beasts
BurnxthexPriest 1 year ago
I know RE Amemiya is legendary for the FD but i love the way FEED FD looks.
Kuriousgorge87 1 year ago
ROFFL@ 1:57 click on the cc and put on the captions. thumps up if you succeed to rofl!!!
SinHarvest64 1 year ago 2
And i think the guy who is driving feed is crunching 3rd gear alot? Or am i hearing shit Lol
FC3SROTA 1 year ago
Feeds rx7 Is very powerfull but will never shake mr amemiyas Car
FC3SROTA 1 year ago
RE-Amemiya's car handled much better, and the power delivery was suited to Gunsai much more than the FEED car which was too peaky.
Put the cars on a real race track and the FEED car would drive away from the RE-A car given those setups.
Love the sound of the FEED car though, so ANGRY!
vortexau 1 year ago
@vortexau all the car's that are brought in for the Touge Battle are tuned for this specific track by the tuners themselves. FEED FD has been doing damages on this track for a long time given. And for this video it still has the same setup.
The tuners give all they can in this segment of the tv show, its mainly watched for this in Japan. ( like in Top Gear we wanna se the Stig's lap).
Amemiya FD is simply built better. And Amemiya would win on the track too.
PS: nice FD, i love the NT03+m !!
rx7outlaw 1 year ago
@rx7outlaw
What's the name of the TV show that this footage is from?
KarlheinzSchelker 1 year ago
@KarlheinzSchelker the show is Best Motoring which is mainly stock cars reviews and races, often on Tsukuba (it plays-print once a month, they have magasine, videos and dvd),... then the segment Hot Version that plays every 2 months, which features battles of TUNED cars (touge and race tracks), and some other segment called Video Special. which plays on a non regular basis and have episodes that mostly feature 1 car.
rx7outlaw 1 year ago
It might better if FEED try their hands on drag race...turbo tune always get killed by NA tune on twisty mountain pass...as for the RE, it might be a good idea to use bigger engine if they wish to stay competitive in Super GT...
loo85 1 year ago
RE AMEMIYA (Tokyo) and FEED(FUJITA ENGINEERING.Osaka) are custom car shop of rival's rotary engine specialty of Japan.
The bosses' hostility is lol.
evolneves 1 year ago
fuck i love that feed rx7 fk yea but it doesnt handle like the RE
darkrx777 1 year ago
The rims on the RE are sick, allong with the rest of the car of course...
bangskeetband 1 year ago
lol. click the CC button and turn the english captions on. it's so funny.
marlo916 1 year ago 47
@marlo916 LOL its in Japlish hahahaha
Sasquash 1 year ago
@marlo916 yesh, thanks brother.
eloelo511 1 year ago
@marlo916 Haha it's funny as hell
rainzinedine 1 year ago
@marlo916 google translate fail lol
wtfyourafuckindoosh 1 year ago
@marlo916 lmfao
aMickyFlower 10 months ago
sexystyle!
Fryman1982 1 year ago
omg . its ryu vs ken .
yagam1 1 year ago
Tsuchiya in an anemiya? You think he'd lose? lol.
iAmCoopz 2 years ago
i was amaze when RE rx7 almost disappear from sight during the second run..... WOW..... and FEED have no chance of catching up AT ALL....
ben219 2 years ago
THERES NO WHERE TO PASS
jumper1294 2 years ago
@jumper1294
that's the point. on Touge battle's you dont pass .
Terre2099 2 years ago 2
Of course the RE Amemiya will win!
RE Amemiya is specialized for the RX7!
btw, i am a huge huge fan of RE Amemiya FD3S (^_^)/
suikoayanajim2 2 years ago
So is the brand FEED!
ryanacehigh 2 years ago
Yeah, i just knew ^.^*
suikoayanajim2 2 years ago
wow Fujita vs Re amemiya, Kazama vs Tsuchiya this is truly a battle of destiny
Sefveron 2 years ago
feed started to late on sec race
devillived132060 2 years ago
ama san = rotary tuner from hell
manonjourney 2 years ago
id more or less from Heaven, as his cars arent overly powerful.
Sefveron 2 years ago
wow both FD's are so sexy and fast as hell Amemiya FTMFW! Think the FEED FD had to big of turbo so laged after corners and had to brake to much just to slow down
DRIFT4TIRES 2 years ago
both cars are sexy as hell,
rotary power!!
ilikepie45290 2 years ago 41