Re: Tibet WAS,IS,and ALWAYS WILL BE a part of China

[50tenz]

TIBET WAS NEVER A PART OF CHINA!!! SHAME ON CHINA!!!!

FREE TIBET!!!!

[hisphoninesss]

his phoniness daliar lama

[kink83]

Good to see at least you don't regard Taiwan as part of China :).

Now lets just hope the CP will allow every ethnic group China to vote whether they want to be part of it or not and everyone will be happy.

[studioghiblitotoro]

Taiwan will ALWAYS be a part of China. If the people of Taiwan do not consider themselves Chinese, then please let go of everything chinese, including chinese customs, chinese food, ANY dialect of chinese language(including fujian), chinese heritage, etc. Above all, get off Taiwan island, because it is Chinese territory.

[Jackthemeat]

Go China!!!! Fuck America

[magnietuit]

it's useless for you to repeat the empty words, your dearest DLLM quit independance in 1974 already, and in all 34 years, he has repeated many times that he doesn't seek independance, in 2008 he said he would support olympic in beijing.

the more you yell those racism, anti-china, anti-han words, the more you are pushing him away from his palace.

it's all your choice

one day, i'm sure, DLLM will be killed by your guys, not by CCP.

[chinarausaustibet]

Dalai lama is Tibetan.

Tibet is not only Dalai lama.

Free Tibet

[0LuckyInternetUser0]

Deine Mutter ist so fett, sie geht auf die Waage und drauf steht dein Handynummer.

[willorogue]

free tibet?!

so riduculous!

daydreamers!

[fugu0899]

what do u guys have?

big mouth, big ass?

what do u guys have? strong militory? Economic power?

polpulation?

hahaha

what a joke

free tibte , free ur mum hahaha

[avntz1]

Tibet is not china.

china is not Tibet.

Free Tibet.

[studioghiblitotoro]

Ummmm...no. How about we let Texas become independent? Before you go around destroying the bonds of other countries, I urge you to actually learn something about historical relations first. Please do not make judgment on these matters when you do not know s*** about Tibetan-Chinese roots. Thank you.

[downrightignorant]

washington is not usa

usa is not washington

free washington

[galept]

What on Earth are you talking about? The man? The state? The district? All of which are American, by the way.

[downrightignorant]

im talking about the state

[galept]

The state of Washington. I'm American and I have no idea what you're trying to say.

[VVTIL]

Catholics are child molesters , monks are lazy jack asses living on donations and wackin off and meditate, Jesus was a middle eastern man and if he was still alive he will call u whites "infidels" LOL Dalai Lama done shit all to help Tibetians compare to CHINESE GOVERNMENT , Richard Gere? who the FUCK is he ?some stupid actor made famous playin a gay cunt sleepin with prostitutes? LOL who gives a fuck MR RICHARD and WHY DONT U GET OFF NATIVE AMERICAS LAND IF U SUCH AN ANGEL MR RICHARD?JACKASS

[blacksye123]

China will never give up Tibet. The End. So keep dreaming. And for those of you who oppose this. Go to hell with your country.

[BhomoMila]

I mean we can go as recent as these past few years where there has been cases of priests from Roman Catholic Churches raping young boys. Does that justify that all Catholic priests, or practitioners are rapists?

No, of course not. Right? Just like that, don't justify coming here and spreading rumours about few incidents that might have happened in old Tibet that you consider it OK for Chinese forces to come and invade us.

[BhomoMila]

Because of plausible thing that might have happened in some monasteries with lunatic monks using young village boys for pleasure. If those things happen, it is really terrible and degrading. If such things did happen, as a Tibetan I really feel horrible and embarrassed.

But because of few incidents doesn't give anyone the right to base the majority of Tibetan Buddhists or Buddhist practitioners in that way.

[BhomoMila]

The more I listen to this bastard, the way he talks about H.H the 14th Dalai Lama, Tibet and the Tibetans.

No one asked you to treasure our society for it was and what it wasn't allowed to be. Our right to make it or even improve our system wasn't given to us, it was snatched away. That is the problem that your ignorant self hasn't been able to figure out.

[BhomoMila]

Children of poor families were brought to the rich's possession then became slaves, these had all changed... now the Chinese dress much smarter, with shirt and a jacket, got enough to eat, thus become so arrogant and greedy that they consider occupying another's homeland as liberation.

[BhomoMila]

It should be up to the Tibetans to work out amongst ourselves the power structure that we want for any future government (internal self rule, or complete) or whatever it may be.

You mustn't forget that a hundred years ago Chinese women had their binded foot, and Chinese men had their hair cut with a pigtail.

[BhomoMila]

Hyperbole aside, Tibet was no better and no worse than any other nation. Torturing prisoners was hardly uncommon in the 17th and 18th century, and there is nothing to suggest the current would-be rulers are interested in going in for eye gorging as a means of maintaining law and order.

[BhomoMila]

But if he has to go back and start denouncing the system of old historical Tibet, then one must also show examples of the surrounding areas as well. I think the account given of past government in Tibet is someone one sided and sensationalist.

[BhomoMila]

The current day illegal occupation of Tibet in the last 60 some yrs is not accepted willingly by any Tibetans inside or outside Tibet. And that is very clear from the recent uprising in Tibet.

This speaker might be educated in a sense that he must have done some research before this segment. I can sense that he is trying not to be bias and act on a scholar's point of view by not taking the Tibetan or the Chinese side.

[BhomoMila]

My family fought based on the fact that these Chinese (foreigners) was occupying our lands, destroying our sacred monasteries, our women were raped, our old men, women, children were killed. Our leaders were tortured...we lost our basic rights as human beings, that is why we fought. It is true we weren't rich, we might have been under the serfdorm system. But the fact of the matter is Tibet was ruled by Tibetans in the old Tibet and was accepted by Tibetans.

[BhomoMila]

This man just said that CIA was never accepted by the local Tibetans at the time. He also mentioned that the people that fought the Chinese (helped by CIA) was sons of Lamas, rich lords etc.... Are you freaking kidding me? My great grandfather, my grandfather from my mother's side, her 4 uncles, my own father (16 at the time) were merely nomads and farmers from Kham region (present day Sichuan in Chinese) we are not from lamaist family or related to any of these rich lords.

[BhomoMila]

As a Tibetan I must admit that our country before China occupied it wasn't perfect but people mustn't forget that the rest of the world wasn't perfect either. But it doesn't give any foreigners to come into our homeland and take over. People tend to forget that we as the common Tibetans didn't ask Chinese to come and save us. Good or Bad, Right or Wrong...should that decision be allowed to resolve by the Tibetans?

[thegameoflife2]

It`s funny and tragic to come back to these sites and see the same old propaganda from the Chinese--They rant at nothing -just for the sake of ranting-lol Except no one is listening to their bs anymore-!!We aren`t interested in your LIES-we have moved to forums that don`t have your big mouths spewing garbage.The message is the same--BOYCOTT!

[sp3091]

Canadian govs are lack of spirit support. By meeting him the govs can feel better in a way that they touched something spirit. Like Canada has a lot of "Real Italian" restaurant, by eating "Real Italian" Canadians feel good in such a way that their blood is pure european again.

Pitty.

[yottose]

天安門 in 1989

[252233406]

hehe stupid

[boihk]

By the way, i agree freeing tibet and FREE CHINA. But i wont accept tibet independant

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[boihk]

All those tibet independent acts are provoked by the west. those British after failed attemp to conquer tibet, set up all those tibet independent authorities. Tibetan on the other hand never call for independent in late 19th and early 20th century. Those who call for independent are mostly influenced by the west.

[av1497]

blaming only one side for a problem is why we never solve problems

[Chinaheartforever]

USA movie in 1940s: Tibet is part of China

watch?v=kWnRl16H1mY

Dalai Lama, Tibet, and Nazi Germany Collaboration.

watch?v=bP_IohMUWaY

Trailer for Gyantse 1904- The British Liberation of Tibet

watch?v=_V6h2qiklK0

[Chinaheartforever]

Free Tibet? Truth about Tibet,

Tibet: The Truth

watch?v=Xsoc4-QnplY

Free Tibet? Truth about Tibet,

Tibet: The Truth

watch?v=Xsoc4-QnplY

[mckfcs]

'Free' tibet? probably turn it back to slavery world, who will be the king then? you know...

[teddybearvancouver]

watch this video ()

[bhumolak]

Tibet is Tibet.

China is China.

get it straight.

FREE TIBET.

[octogenarian]

any evidence?

[bhumolak]

i am your evidence pal.

[xuanziamj]

stupid.

[zfyizz]

To realtrulla.

You know what? The word "Chinese" is not only about Mandarin, but also about loads of different dialects. Do you mean that a language represents a country? I could also say that the US and Australia and Canada etc belong to the UK because they speak English. This shows people's ignorance. Gosh, so funny.

[realtrulla]

Qing is Manchu empire, not chinese. Manchu(Qing) just conqured China(Ming) like Mongol did.

Manchu are not chinese. Manchu language is radically different from Chinese, and they used Manchu letters.

Yuan is a Mongolian country, likewise, Qing is a Manchu country. China was just governed by Mongol and Manchu empires. So, Tibet had never been part of China until China invaded Tibet in 1950s.

China should stop distoring history to justify occupation on Tibet.

[jillpang19850819]

The Man minority people in China are the descendants from the Manchu empire and they are now called the Man-Chinese, just like Han-Chinese, they are an important part of the entire Chinese population. There are 56 ethnic groups in China, including Mongolian and Man-Chinese. Doesn't matter who conquered whom in the Chinese history, it all happened at the same geographical location called China. Doesn't matter which ethnic group was in power, they all refered to themselves as the ruler of CHINA.

[jillpang19850819]

The word CHINA does not only refer to the Han-Chinese, and the current Chinese government. It is a broad term referring to the Chinese history, the entire Chinese population and the geographical location (see Wikipedia's definition of China). As you said, thousands of years ago, during Yuan's dynasty, Tibet has already been a part of China. So historically saying, Tibet belongs to China.

[jillpang19850819]

I'm a Man-Chinese, and my family are descendants of the Manchu dynasty. No one in my family denies their Chinese identity and no one in my family support Tibet independence.

[senselab]

I am a Human, from planet EARTH, and people from my planet like to kill eachother.

[totogump]

So am I !!!

[markfengg]

realtrulla:

As jillpang pointed out, he is a member of the Man minority people in China and consider themselves Chinese too. None of them supports Tibet independance.

Besides, if current China isn't a rightful heir to Qing Dynasty, why are Hong Kong and Macau given back to China while they were lost by Qing 100 years ago?

[MAHABODHI2007]

Accounts such as the one discussed in this interview can be compaired to the white man coming to the America's & describing the natives as barbaric & uncivilized simply because they were foreign & unfamiliar. No such "analysis" can explain the devotion of the Tibetan people to their faith, to their lamas & to their nation... how many fled Tibet in 1959 & have continued to flee? How many have stood up & risked their lives this month to tell China to go home? ..after 50 years!

[avijit4uonly]

thanks for this comment . please do not think that all the people of India are against Tibetians , we are all with u .

[MAHABODHI2007]

I find it interesting that people continue to highlight the theocracy & "feudalism" in Tibet's independent history as if Tibetans & the Dalai Lama (who, as pointed out, was only 15 years old) would suddenly revert back to the same behaviour if given the opportunity of independence. They may have been slower to progress than the world at large due to their isolation, but c'mon, take a look at any cultures past and you'll find much the same... how far have we come... how far have Tibetans come?

[hungary1956]

june 4 1989

[Grapevine80]

there are 56 ethnics in china

some of them use diffrent languages,they are different ethnic origin(if you know china)

[paradiseanna]

To ajaanjacopo :

there are 56 ethnics in china

some of them use diffrent languages,they are different ethnic origin(if you know china)

[carlbon666]

You a broken record???

[carlbon666]

You a broken record???

[yfh1983]

For real Tibet and real Tibetans' life

Search this video shot by Americans:

【Tibet Diary】- Episode 6

[vedyu]

Tibetans were not led by Dalai Lama, Only the slaveholders were led by Dalai Lama.

free tibet only means to free those slaveholders. because all slaves already had freedom.

Tibet WAS,IS,and ALWAYS WILL BE a part of China. You don't have any evidence to prove it is not, was not and will be not a part of CHINA.

[ajaanjacopo]

Tibet has always been close to China, but they use a different language, they are different ethnic origin, maybe Tibet can be part of Mongolia (if you know History) more then China. And it's all about freedom, not independence. Religious and personal Freedom. The same that young Chinese where asking in Tiananmen Square in 1989...that's history to remember!

If Tibet is part of China, then China can it be considered part of Japan?! It was occupied for quite a long time...but they fight to be free!

[nizhegezhutou]

ajaanjacopo, 1st most people in Tibet do not want to be independent, they have normal life as othere Chinese; 2nd, Tibet belongs to China now, important place for China, so it is not possible to take it away. Maybe you can try by sending enough army.

[Noctis6969]

@nizhegezhutou actually the majority of Tibetans are against the Communist occupation. Eventually Tibet will be free. It is my hope it is not violent, but if that is what it takes for Tibetan Cultural freedom, then so be it.

[paradiseanna]

there are 56 ethnics in china

some of them use different languages(if you know china)

[paradiseanna]

To ajaanjacopo :

there are 56 ethnics in china

some of them use diffrent languages,they are different ethnic origin(if you know china)

[paradiseanna]

To ajaanjacopo :

there are 56 ethnics in china

some of them use diffrent languages,they are different ethnic origin(if you know china)

[vedyu]

who paid Dalai Lama? He doesn't work, who paid his trip?

Westerner wake up, don't be stupid.

[bonneville88sse]

I'm so glad to hear that some westerner has a very different (actually quite unbiased and precise) view on Tibet than the rest of western medias and brain-washed people, thanks for sharing!

[frdesire]

"spiritual matters"

lmao

[tzhang2]

Holy man, he is just a regular old guy, masterbate everynight

[oupsla]

ooooh man and before china it was ? ok then shut up now... history is longer as you think

[oupsla]

shut up you fucking killers - genocide is never a part of any land !

[chunzi412]

Tibet WAS,IS,and ALWAYS WILL BE a part of China

[evershiningster]

Tibet was is and always will be a part of china, nobody can split it from china

[oneof56]

Please read the history document of

for Tibet, espeically the the documents

from Yuan,Qing and Ming Dynasty of

China. Then you will know

who is liar. And compare its

past and current situation. Then

you will know who make Tibet better.

[oneof56]

Please read the history document of

for Tibet, espeically the the documents

from Yuan,Qing and Ming Dynasty of

China. Then you will know

who is liar. And compare its

past and current situation. Then

you will know who make Tibet better.

[oneof56]

Please read the history document of

for Tibet, espeically the the documents

from Yuan,Qing and Ming Dynasty of

China. Then you will know

who is liar. And compare its

past and current situation. Then

you will know who make Tibet better.

[epwaca]

hey, watch your words, where are we staying? whose land are you staying, go back Europe yourself

[outsiderzhu]

u are just stupid

[ruobingyang]

Shut ur mouth up!

[nizhegezhutou]

u r an uneducated loser,

[lordsonnyxixi]

go fuck urself

[mementorider]

I guess...

Nazi's Final Solution against Jews was based on the wrong belief that one country can get a regime over minorities.

Remember that, No country can be far superior over the other country.