American Pop (Part 2)

[skeilak]

The Triangle Shirtwaist Fire. March 25, 1911, New York City.

146 Jewish and Italian woman and girls, aged 14 to 48, recent immigrants all, burned or jumped to their deaths, because the owners locked the doors, to prevent them from sneaking breaks during their nine hour workday.

This film is Ralph Bakshi's masterpiece.

Look at the emotion expressed, when he gives his mother the banana. And when he says, "Goodbye, mama."

That's film making.

[breakinrachel]

Thanks for uploading this film! GREAT movie, great music!



[Johnlindsey289]

Does the opening and this segment remind anyone of American Tail?

[ivyleaguegirl89]

Oh my goodness, I never actually thought that someone actually acknowledged that fire in a movie.

[emilblaster]

incrdebile movie sorry i am hibba

[Johnlindsey289]

That scene where Zalmie says bye to his mother is such a heartbreaking and sad sequence that made me cry when i was 17 back when this hit video in 98 and even when i was 12 back in 93 when i saw it on TBS. This with another great animated drama great known as Grave of the Fireflies made me cry when i was a teenager.

[slgold92]

"I been singing mama"

[nahablack]

wow...i cant believe they put the "triangle incident" in this movie! thats how the unitehere union was started. the jewish garment workers were always locked in the building...one day it caught on fire and they couldnt get out...fire truck ladders couldnt reach the top floors...most of the workers died while the managers survived. what a tragedy.

[ZaidNitsua]

yah their is a photo of a guy kissing little girls before tossing em out a window because it was a quicker death than by fire. Hmm & just look what got passed in the senate today oi vey such a sad world.

[poopoomonster]

"i seen a stripper getting dressed"

what a great line

[kmdki]

The closest I've seen in anime to Bakshis American Pop was Satoshi Kon"s Tokyo Godfathers.

[Bloodyfists777]

@kmdki its not the same theme but anyways animationally speaking yeah theyre superb

[CarrieTomahawk]

you cant compare anime to bakshi. no no no no no no!!

[Hethrin]

Oh man, when the kid lost his mother...that was way too sad.

[hisvorpalswords]

"stay away from the dancing horse."

good advice

[locksmithite]

Imagine the courtship scene without the mood music.

How many guys can actually walk up to a stripper while dressed in a clown suit and undress without saying a word and actually get some?

[1joker88]

I never leave home without my clown suit...

[remsleepdreamer]

the lucky SOB's

[RobGoth100]

This was a classic.

[live4theweekend2]

I love this "rotoscoping" style of animation, which animators traced lines over live action actors before computers were being used. It gives it a more realistic feel.

[SugarShop92]

stay away from the dancing horse

[gatheringleaves]

absolutely amazing

[lilrog0909]

Amazing simply Amazing! Anime eat ya heart out!!!!

[SatansMullet]

there is quite a few amazing anime too. but its good to see at one time we could make good movies in america too right? lol

[lilrog0909]

Yeah Anime is cool but rapid display of a sequence of images of American/German/South African/Russian cartoons are the best! Anime probably has one of the best frame/background work but they still have a long way go in modern Animation! I see Disney is making a 2-D come back, I wish American 2-D artist came up with diverse stories like they did in the 80's the fairy tales are getting old so I can understand why someone would be a big Anime fan... The stories are way better!

[Johnlindsey289]

@lilrog0909

What about Akira, Ghost in The Shell, Ninja Scroll, Princess Mononoke, Spirited Away or the ultra-powerful and very sad Grave of the Fireflies?

[Shinmeiryu]

I like hearing about the pop culture of the early 20th century. Other than the occasional ragtime, and vaudeville, you don't really hear or see much about it. In some recordings I've heard of songs from the late-19th century and early 20th century, you can really hear a lot of that early syncopation, and rare pre-jazz pop song structure, before it really became influenced by more americanized traditions like with the blues.

[57highland]

How about history in the early 20th century? The factory fire you see here is something that actually happened: the 1911 "Triangle Fire", so called because the name of the company was the Triangle Shirtwaist Company, in Greenwich Village NYC. 123 women & 23 men died in the fire or from jumping 8-10 stories or fell from a fire escape which collapsed while they were on it. That was the start of stronger worker safety laws (sprinklers, better fire escapes, fire drills, etc.)

[swordinademonskull]

Wait, there's something missing. After his mother dies, and he is singing, his mentor becomes his agent. He takes the kid around to sing that song until finally the scene where his voice is changing as he hits puberty, then they realize they have to change up their showbiz direction so as to not beat a dead horse. Ironically in his next act he almost becomes a dead horse's rear. Well, nonetheless, I've not seen this movie in ages and I greatly appreciate that you did post it.

[felixicon]

3:52.. dude is in Black face on the Left. Umn.

[jkoff76]

This generation has a hard time understanding the historical context of past generations. Black Face was an accepted style of Vaudeville in those days.

Now it certainly doesn't make it right. Of course it wasn't right. But we are talking about an era that saw African Americans hung in the thousands.

Art most be objective in it's portrayal of historical record. Otherwise it is false. We can't judge the past from our own standards and ethics.

[MartenFerret]

To add, we should be grateful, as such serves as a reminder as to how far we've come.

[Hasselhoffhater]

That guy who spoke on 3:01 was that Barney Martin?

[KekoaOnorati]

Hearing him whisper "Goodbye Mama" is absolutely heartbreaking.

[Spiderzumbie]

it is.

[Johnlindsey289]

Sad a sad and tearful scene.

[robynsegg]

@KekoaOnorati: She died in The Triangle Shirtwaist Company Fire of 1911.

[Johnlindsey289]

@KekoaOnorati

i knwo and i cried when i saw that scene first time i saw this when i was 12 18 years ago on TBS

[mattingly17]

purple eyes? they had contacts back then?

[Jal8919536]

The theatre owner at 2:52 is played by Vincent Schiavelli, who starred opposite Marya Small (Frankie) in "Once Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest".

[57highland]

wow! did you post the whole movie? great contribution!

[Stevers80]

Thank you and yes, yes I did. Just check my account.

[napoleonman100]

@Stevers80 great movie eh

[scottbarden]

fantastic