SHINDIG! #4 (1964) - [3of4]

[goulston36]

i used to see sounds inc. at the california ballroom dunstable. it was worth the trip from london. they backed many top singers in the 60s.they were brilliant.

[grizzlygalore]

In Awopbopaloobop Alopbamboom (1968) Nik Cohn wrote that PJ Proby's greatest gift was convincing everyone around him that he was a genius, living like a Hollywood star he "never walked small", and he could "always find someone to pay his bills".

Cohn's fascination with Proby's image inspired him to write a successful novel (I Am Still The Greatest Says Johnny Angelo) based on Proby's narcissism blended with a pre-Army Elvis. Maybe Cohn was too smart to be duped into paying Proby's bills.

[grizzlygalore]

@oldtowntonight Proby thought he could be a superstar by living like Elvis. It was a con. He didn't own those houses he occupied either. He still thinks he can be a star by saying he is and demanding star treatment, and rontenn is still blinkered by his wild tales of huge fortunes. Those tales can't be backed up because there weren't nearly enough hit records and ticket sales to yield that kind of money. We can file the £1.5M cheque story with the ones about Proby and Elvis growing up together.

[oldtowntonight]

@rontenn Nobody watches these clips anymore. They hit the stop button and read the comments.

Proby was known "worldwide" only if you think the UK, northwest Europe and eastern Australia is "the world". It isn't.

He's lucky EMI didn't have him arrested for some of his shenanigans. He lived large playing the role of a big star, boozed and played and boozed some more, then went bankrupt and has whined about it all for 40 years. You're calling people here weird? PJ Proby is the epitome of weird.

[theBESTelvis]

@oldtowntonight really, LOL GET REAL PROBY BASHER !!

If PJ's popularity got as far as the other side of the world then that says enough to me clown ha ha. ye...he was a BIG star and boozer with all the chics. many are ...then and now still so what changes ?? LOL

THE WEIRD ONE'S ON HERE ARE YOU JEALOUS JERKS !! ASS HOLE.

[oldtowntonight]

Very interesting. PJ Proby complains in radio interviews about EMI never paying him anything and they owe him millions. But somebody called Allied sent him a cheque for £1.5M for royalties in '66. A million here and a million there - pretty soon we'll be talking about REAL money. Probably not. This conversation is a hilarious! I'll bet rontenn hasn't told whacko stories like this around the other members of those sixties tours.

[rontenn]

@oldtowntonight. EMI still owe Proby a fortune. However a top star at the time like P.J. was still raking in the cash & he had a butler,personal hairdresser,bodyguards,limo's,­chauffeur,homes in England & Hollywood.He was a worldwide superstar.....but of course if a few blinkered time-wasters like you choose not to believe it then that's your own weird,personal choice! What are you doing watching clips by such a "nobody" in your eyes?

[grizzlygalore]

@rontenn Too bad you didn't photograph that cheque but I guess in 1966 a cheque for £1.5M was no big deal. LOL. PJ Proby was always good at spending other people's money. His managers rented houses for him and his entourage and those "so-called" friends paid his bills. He was the one doing the ripping off. It's easy for you to say he made a fortune when you don't have to tell what it was for or where it was from. Millions of pounds for singing somebody else's songs in 1966 spells dirty money.

[rontenn]

@grizzlygalore What the hell do you know? nothing by the sounds of things! The cheque was a combined royalty cheque of one year's earnings. It wasn't other people's money it was money he was due....& obviously it went into the bank.Whaddya think he did with it...made a paper airplane from it to whizz around the room for a laugh? By the way most pop singers do sing other people's songs.....didn't you know that! DOH!

[theBESTelvis]

@grizzlygalore

CRIKEY THIS FELLA CAN SING CAN'T HE JUST EH ??

I'VE NEVER HEARD A MALE SINGER AS GOOD. INCREDIBLE VOICE,

[rontenn]

P.J. certainly was a millionaire in the mid 60's but his finances were not organised well so taxes etc.did not get paid.He spent, spent ,spent & also got ripped off many times by so called "friends". I actually held a cheque in 1966 for £1,500,000!! wish I had photographed it at the time so I could prove you lot were completely wrong! I do treat fools as fools...you are one of them!

[kendall156]

@rontenn Wow! was the cheque framed? It isn't surprising that PJ Proby went skint if he didn't know you could take that cheque to the bank and trade it for money instead of passing it around to impress your fans. What else of PJ's have you held in your hand? Does anyone believe these silly stories?

[rontenn]

@kendall156 Another doubting Thomas.! The obviously unframed cheque was deposited straight into his bank account (one of them anyway).  If you had a cheque suddenly given to you for a similar amount I suppose you wouldn't bat an eye-lid!! You ain't normal tho' are you? Reading the last 2 sentences of your comments gave me a very good idea of your mentality. Rock bottom!!

[kendall156]

@rontenn A cheque for £1.5M in 1966 would be the equivalent of at least £20M in 2010. Did you forget PJ said EMI never paid him anything for his records? Who paid him all those royalties if it wasn't EMI?

According to your channel page you would have been 18 years old in 1966. What were you doing for PJ that he would show a kid that age his royalty cheques?

[rontenn]

@kendall156 Who said it was from EMI? Got your little brain at full revs now haven't I? In '66 I was 19 & on top of the world ma! I remember one word that stood out on the cheque..Allied. The rest is gone from my memory.

[kendall156]

@rontenn Right. Problem is you're nothing more than an ID on youtube posting stories that you can't substantiate about a washed-up singer and you think anyone reading them will believe you? Whatever.

[theBESTelvis]

@kendall156

DON'T YOU WISH YOU HAD PJ PROBY'S AMAZING VOICE ?

I KNOW I DO. HE'S A VERY GIFTED FELLA INDEED.

CAN YOU SING AT ALL ?? LOL

[rontenn]

Niki Hoeky......His closest thing to a hit? it was a hit in the USA & he got a gold record for it!

[oldtowntonight]

@rontenn

The RIAA Gold and Platinum data base goes back to Jan. 1958 and a search of it returns nothing for PJ Proby or Niki Hoeky. The Billboard Book of Top 40 Hits 1955-2003 lists no gold records for PJ Proby. What source can you cite to back up your claim that PJ Proby was awarded a US gold record for Niki Hoeky?

[rontenn]

@oldtowntonight. I actually held the gold disc along with all his silver records when he still had them. Get down off your high horse with all of your "official" facts & figures.

[grizzlygalore]

@rontenn Did Proby's gold record go down with one of the yachts or aeroplanes he bought with his "millions and millions of pounds"? The only people believing any of this stuff now must be senile. Anyone can easily have a fake gold record made so those "official" RIAA facts and figures are necessary. Get off your high horse and stop treating people like the fools PJ Proby mistakenly takes them for.

[theBESTelvis]

@grizzlygalore

You don't believe PJ had millions of £££££s in the 60's you clown LOL LOL

[theBESTelvis]

@rontenn

The jerk still won't believe you Ron, They'll be asking for pictures and more proof now Ha Ha Ha, It's all laughable really if it wasn't so pathetic.

[rontenn]

@theBESTelvis. Hi my friend.......These twerps just cannot accept P.J.Proby was a superstar ! I They definitely have mental problems & refuse to accept the truth about his musical history! Ah well...f*** 'em I say! I'll waste no more time on them!

[AGibsonJ]

P J is terrific and I don't understand why he wasn't promoted better in the US. Such a unique talent!!

[oldtowntonight]

@AGibsonJ

Maybe because he violated his contract by recording for Decca? Liberty did spend a bundle on production and US promotion of "I Can't Make It Alone" but it didn't score. Proby's timing was often way off for US markets. Many of his records were covers of old US hits and his sound was several years behind US music tastes. Americans didn't go for somebody who tried to sing in the "voices" of a lot of other singers they were fans of. Niki Hoeky, his closest thing to a hit, peaked at #23.

[AGibsonJ]

@oldtowntonight, thanks for this information, it all makes sense. I love his voice when he sings in a natural style without all the fancy intonations.

[owensclock]

P J Proby (James Marcus Smith) wasn't British. He was born in Houston, Texas!

Quite a showman he was!

[lyndloo]

just wonderful ..xxx thanx for,a great post .. Lyndloo

[elaine12349]

Love this song but way too much theatrics...the fake pouting has got to go!

[rontenn]

The fabulous 60's......I'd give anything to go back!. P.J.Proby.......well what a character & what a voice & still going strong in 2010. On tour in the Spring & Autumn in the UK....Go see a Living Legend!  Ron

[marpole95]

it's the first time I have seen this version,as always it is brilliant,no-one can top PJ

Heather

[sherilyn1977]

For me P.J is second to none and Y'all know who I mean when I say that.

[8aPeach2]

PJ Proby makes my dogs howl

[novapup2001]

Simply great. Now, hold on. The mid 60s was also the final period when the sax was part of mainstream R&R, the last hold-over from the big band era and R&B combo days. Doncha just miss it?

[georgethedj]

PJ Proby was bad from the start, he's bad here, and he was always bad, even with "Nicki Hokey." Stay away, PJ.

[jfab64]

According to Jimmy O'Neill, there are approximately 75 complete "Shindig" episodes in existence. I'd like to see some video company put out all the surviving shows in their entirety, whether in a box set or individually. This show, along with Ready Steady Go!, Lucky Stars, and variety shows like Ed Sullivan, are important British Invasion video resources and should be available for music lovers everywhere!

[pjfanfanfan]

hold meeeee, please

[mimysol]

Can anyone post "That means a lot" With P J Proby?. It´s a Great song that were in youtube 2 months ago.

[rstandmartin]

HE is not DEAD.............is he an incredible singer !!

and still is

[OSCARDERAMASSAGE]

TREMENDOUS SOUNDS INCORPORATED

[alberticko]

Incredible combo, this song is called "Sounds like locomotion" and it's obviously a live rendition. I'm amazed how those guys could so energetically play and dance at the same time. They were pure spectacle and a unique act.

[zoet07]

We were really spoilt back in those days wth soooooo much talent on the music scene.

[glasgowbard]

PJ proby, what an amazing version of Hold Me, this guy was an incredible singer.

[jimmyproby]

P J Proby is still an incredible singer,see videos. cheers.