Person in Charge of Detainees at Gitmo Says He Has Regrets

[ScottBrown666]

what goes around>>>

[GrownupPhan]

That's like saying there would be a conflict if a lawyer decided to do pro bono work for anti-WTO protesters. They're anti-corporate to a certain extent, or could be perceived that way. I still don't get his clarified point.

[etetepete]

the absurdity of calling guantanamo "Gitmo" is overwhelming.. maybe you wou want to call Ausschwitz "Schwitzi" next time. really thats sick. Is this some sort of newspeak?

[flyingtorpedo]

War is hell, they don't give people trials and rights before they assasinate them or shoot them. POW's are exactly people chaught in the war. SInce GITMO is sooooo bad for the detainees, what if they just shot and killed them on the spot? Would that be better?

[LionCome]

Is that what you would want for our soldiers?

[flyingtorpedo]

Want what for our soldiers?

[BobfromSydney]

Basically LionCome is saying that if you don't accept surrenders and harm or kill prisoners of war then enemy troops will:

a) fight to the death instead of surrendering - this causes higher casaulties on the U.S. side too because fierce close combat may become necessary.

b) mistreat, harm or kill captured U.S. soldiers.

The above arguments are the main ones made within the military about why it's a bad idea to violate the geneva convention.

There is also an argument on moral grounds too

[ScottBrown666]

You aren't experienced in logical debate, are you?

[flyingtorpedo]

Im just not a lemming drinking kool-aid....

[crowdaddy13]

i dont give a fuck what you have done, in America, you have a right to due process and representation......EVERYONE is innocent until proven guilty, i am ashamed that this happened in my country.

i am not by any means defending terrorism, but at the same time, if they can do away with the rights of these people, they can do the same to people like you and me.

[lawtek711]

You know, I am a news junkie who has the day off today. All throughout the day I have been watching CNN- ALL DAY! All throughout the day, like a broken record, CNN has continues to report the same stories over and over and over and... Fortunately, people (such as TYT) are able to supply people with real news instead of the "little bits and pieces" of important news / headlines that are repeated by trained parrots!

[iCandyCatastrophe]

Republican tough guys not feeling so tough now they're out on their ass. Still not making sense though, someones feelings on 9/11 has no relevance to anything if they had nothing to do with it or committed no crime

[wormbaby79]

Ok nice point on face value but what you have described is motivating factors which are addmissable as mitigating or aggravating factors in a court of law. I agree these guys are dicks but motivations have everything to do with someones relevance to having anything to do with the commission or non commission of a crime. See legal homicide.

[GennaSt]

Is his point that lawyers can't represent poor people, accused people, or foreign people?

He didn't make an ethical case for not representing the suspects at Gitmo. If they have been held for 6 years without a hearing or charges, shouldn't they at the very least be represented? Some American citizens were also caught up in Bush's shenanigans.

Why is he attacking lawyers for doing pro bono work?

[hypnofan35]

We know that 911 was a demolition and could not have been a terrorist act not related to the Bushweeds or Bushwads. Talking around that fact or denying that is the business of "sided importance" or suit wearing status. Status people can get away with "massive bullshit" if they do a word dance. The truth would destroy this fellow's career "toute suite". If he just keeps speaking like that he will probably be forgiven.

[kymystic65]

Isn't "detainee" a politically correct phrase.

Detainee sounds like they've been detained for a short period of time. Once they keep them there for 8 years or even longer, how can they still call them a detainee. They should be called prisoners doing hard time.

[pokemanz]

"Detainee" sounds like some drunk locked up in a holding cell for 24 hours, so he gets sober, then released.

Being imprisoned with no due process for 7 years, is fucking gestapo, fascist shit.

[Blowb666]

That's the point. Prisoners have undergone a trial, detainees haven't. These people are essentially prisoners because, until Obama, the US government had no intention of putting them on trial

[chgosatrap]

put AIG in Gitmo.

[flyingtorpedo]

WAH WAH WAH, the deatainees, the motherfucking 911 terroists detainees are being tortured. First of all, waterboarding, sleep-deprivation, and being stripped naked (even if it happend) to me is not fucking torture! look up mideval times! Thats fucking torture. Name me one motherfucking detainee that died at GITMO? Because I can name 5000 american troops that died fighting. Was that in Vein? Yet liberals are more concerned about these fucking detainees? Id Rather be in GITMO than a state prison!

[ggmorvaj]

Buddy, if you'd rather be in Gitmo than a state prison......then ask your lawyer to have you  transferred from the prison you're in , to Gitmo..... BTW , I guess they don't keep you very well informed in state prison....because NONE OF THE DETAINEES ARE "911 TERRORISTS"....check it out , ask one of the guards for a newspaper or something....

[flyingtorpedo]

I watched the documentary last night ion national -geo. COnspiritors in the 9/11 attack are held there. Im not In prison dude, lol and it ounds like you are ranting and raving about a subject you know minimal information on. QUit believing the hype dude.

[oldhacks]

oh you know this guy did some torturing

[flyingtorpedo]

yeah dude real smart comment. you are a moron.

[oldhacks]

look at em. they were all down there dunking peoples heads under water and laughing about it and now their all going around apologizing and selling books in the process. its ridiculous.

[flyingtorpedo]

Im so sick and tired of everone acting like all these detainees are innocent and wrongly imprisoned good guys.

[Blowb666]

well the reason they havent been charged is because of lack of evidence. Whilst they aren't necessarily super clean, they aren't guilty.

[flyingtorpedo]

I guess the military should have arrested and tried Qusay and Uday too before they blew the hell out of their houses... They were probably innocent too.

[cheryltaylor12]

What interesting trials these would have been. Not innocent, but were their crimes against Iraqi's or Americans. How many Iraqi victims deserved the right to convict these bastards and let their crimes be recorded into history?

[flyingtorpedo]

Im getting ready to watch that documentary on GITMO here in an hour on National Geographic. It's supposed to be really good.

[Blowb666]

Yeah i've heard bout that. Might watch it myself

[flyingtorpedo]

Gitmo is nicer than most american prisons.

[Blowb666]

either thats wrong or american prisons are complete hell. Gitmo might have some nicer facilities, such as medical facilities, than most american prisons, but they also torture the prisoners.

[flyingtorpedo]

American Prisons are way worse you should watch the documentary. Some could have been tortured no doubt but its not a torture center. The people running it make me laugh. Every detainne has their own cell. THe whole torture thing has been blown way out of proportion, especially for waterboarding and sleep deprivation. I'd rather be at GITMO than San Quienten.

[JBeatty17]

I'm so sick of people like you acting like you have the right to pass judgement on people you know nothing about. Typical neoconservative. GET A LIFE

[flyingtorpedo]

Pass judgement on what dude? I'd rather be in GITMO than an Anerican Prison. QUit crying you whiner. All these people were not tortutured shut up about it. Move your ass to France if hate America so much you ignorant turd. Im not going to back down because a bunch of whiny liberals hate america. you get a life. no one is torturing doucebag.

[eirefrance]

I'm so sick and tired of people acting like objection to the repeal of habeas corpus has anything to do with 'thinking all these detainess are innocent and wrongly imprisoned". Thanks for playing.

[tommysch]

We should simply give the detainees to the sharks.

[WKaliberr]

my pussy

[Frets200]

Cenk went easy on him.

[adamruck]

I think cenk tried to go hard on him, but the guy on the phone had some excellent answers.

[437thx1138]

Sounds like one of those bible school lawyers the Bush team was so fond of hiring in Justice dept. I didn't mean what I said. Twice. He looking for a job? Hope so.

[miguelin97223]

Shank

Shank

Shank

SHANK

SHANK!!!

"Shaaaaank, you just don't understand the complexities of the situation, Shaaaaaank!!"

LOLz

[johnedwards1968]

This guy is obviously covering his own ass. There is no way his words have any different meanings.

Academic my ass!

[Amarx00]

I agree,  although kudos to the turks for getting him on!

And to him for comming on..

[thecellarlife]

this guy really doesn't know anything worth talking to him about. he's a fall guy in the media for something that a lot of other people are responsible for. the comments he made are purposely stupid. he got something for saying what he did. its a distraction at best.

[christmasdnc]

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[Lavizzle]

except there's no comedy here. Go jerk off watching Glen Beck pretend to cry.

[christmasdnc]

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and btw if you've ever watched jon stewart youd see that most of the time he tells real news with his opions and jokes hmm kinda sounds like...TYT?

BITCH and why would you recommend glen beck to a TYT fan?

[Lavizzle]

it just seems like the type of shit that you would jerk off too. Nothing to do with TYT.

[Azzaiel]

yeah, but they gotta learn to trim the fat to pop song standards.

[browngom]

can someone explain this to video to me. there's a lot of names and events being thrown around, and im not understanding the big picture.

[Amarx00]

It's part of the continual struggle between the left & the far right not allow soldiers/agents to abuse and torture men women & children in yours and my name.

[pirbird14]

Lawyers make their living by knowing how to use words very precisely. He did not misspeak.

[Chubearishere]

Don't know but I feel like I need to shower after that segment. The guy just comes off as a slime ball to me.

[jaim12005]

lol agreed

[sunnyallthetime]

"Shank." As in a home made weapon in prison? ;-P

[xxShannonGreenxx]

Lt. CDR. Swift got Swift-boated by Bush and his klan.

[duncan36]

Republican tough guys not feeling so tough now they're out on their ass. Still not making sense though, someones feelings on 9/11 has no relevance to anything if they had nothing to do with it or committed no crime.

[1Weemaryanne]

This guy's a prize dick. Somebody tell me he's no longer lawyering for the US Dept of Defense?

[Ryan2142]

good stuff TYT

[POSHLOVER12]

nice vid