All the marines I know take accurate shooting serious including myself. I think its bullshit the army uses simulators to shoot the m16. And for all the civilians out there that think that every rifle needs a scope to shoot acurately is bullshit. At paris island we shot out to 500 meters iron sights only
@GriffGruff78 hahah i laugh at ur face !! the bullet will drop bout 19 inches and get draged by the wind its just not consistent enough at those ranges no marine would ever seriously attempt the shot with there m4 or m16 as there frist option
@metalmessiahmetal - Dude, every basic Marine has hit a silouette on the 500m range with an M16. Also, I would LOVE to know what load you're shooting to only have 19 inches of drop at 500 meters. That would be a pretty dandy round indeed.
@GriffGruff78 wht i know bout the army is that squad range so 10 rounds is 300 meters with an aug same round 5.56 basically same accuracy. ill correct the drop in inches its like 30 sumthing inches at 500meter so even worse 500 meters
@metalmessiahmetal A lot of shooting competitors will simply zero their iron-sighted AR's at 500 and then proceed through the course with a 6 o'clock point-of-aim on all targets.
300 meters kailangan mo mag compute ng windage and elevation peru pag red dot adjust ka nalang sa second shot expected na kasi di tatama ung first shot at saka yong ammo mo dapat mag katimbang kasi basihan yong pag gusto mo titira ng malayoan. peru maganda place nyo makakapraktis ka kung kailan mo gusto. GOOD GUN keep it up
You are correct my friend. I didn't mean copy as a "based on rifle" but more as a sentimental thing : p. The CETME rifles were based on the Stg45 because engineers from Mauser joined CETME. Germany bought the license to manufacture CETME model A (7.52NATO) as the FN refused to sell the license for the FN FAL to Germany.
hey nice shooting. i seen in the video that the wind up and then died down. did that fuck u up shooting. i love you shooting of a bag which is hard i know.
It's prolly his private driveway, so if someone's coming up there and they did call to let them know they're on their way they obviously don't have permission to be on his land
Yes the target is smaller than the front sight post. Yes the army has the ALT-C up to 300 meters. The argument is that no one can hit a man size target past 300 meters. I am going to have to post video to prove this can be done with open sights. Yes I know the graduations go to 800 meters. Thats for an area target. This also gives me excuse to buy metal popper target.
Ever noticed that professional video gamers try to tell you that you can't hit a man target at 500 meters with open sights. I qualified at those such ranges. Hell I wish I could shoot my AR15, M1A, and .308 bolt at the local ranges. The farthest range here has only 300 yards. 300 yards is suppose to be easy hunting range. Do a search of Army and or Marine qualification requirements. I love and hate the M16. It has kept me alive but its a bitch to clean ;)
What armed service are you in that required qualification passed 300M?
Have you ever shot an ALT-C target beyond 300M? The silhouette wouldn't be visible without magnification, and secondly, it would be smaller then the front sight.
A 80+ grain .223 or 5.56 round would be blown around beyond 300M making most attempts beyond futile. It's not a round designed to reach out with assured accuracy.
mgzukows, first of all your claims are far fetched fantasies. When u see a man, 500m away without optics, it is a dot on the horizon, and every shot attempt is a hail mary, waste of ammo. Hell, during battles soldiers don't even bother shooting past
300m with personal, iron sighted weapons. m16 round can barely stop a man at 500m, provided it hits him.
first off correct my spelling mistake m-14. Well gents look it up USMC range qual is at 200, 300 and 500. at the 500 you must engage a man sized target in the prone with a 10 round slow fire. I say 10/10 because the last time i qualed i hit the black(The man sized target) 10 times out of 10 rounds. we do this with iron sights.
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an m16 passed 450m wont penertrate body armour, and with iron sights ? it doesnt matter if it can or cant , because you wont hit it, with any gun, m16, m14 , the best chance you have at 500 m is with a Light machine gun , SPRAY AND PRAY
Fucking arm chair soldiers. Look people have engaged and killed at that range with iron sites lets see the battle of belleau wood the germans called them devil dogs because they were engaging and killing at 800+ yards. Just because you can't do it doesn't mean no one can.
you can qual up to 600 yards on a man size target with iron sites like mgzukows said 10/10 is actually very obtainable I qualified expert 5 years in a row when i was in the marines And yes I have shot and hit a target at 600 using iron sites Not every time but the shots werent a fluke either Proper sight alignment combined with controlled breathing trigger pull and proper support along with windage and elevation corrections and you can hit your target every time all Marines are Riflemen first
The whole Devil Dogs nickname was made up by American propaganda, sorry to disappoint you. The supposed German nickname "Teufelhunden" (Devil Dogs) is grammatically incorrect even ignoring the problem that the soldiers weren't really in casual conversation with the Germans to find out the nicknames.
That aside they still fought like motherfuckers even considering poor quality of late-war German troops.
@mgzukows The term soldier and devil dog should never be used in the same sentence, paragraph, page or chapter! Soldier, Worrier, hooa etc is a term to describe Army personnel... Devil dog, Jar Head is referring to a Marine. We dont go around calling Airmen soldiers or Marines Seamen hahha I said seamen lol... gets me every time!!!
@themeleed i saw poster once that revealed what the military really does and it had like every branch ..the marines was a guy in the siting in a mud puddle holding binoculars ,the airforce was a fat guy in a chair playing video games ,the army was a guy laying in the dirt ,and the navy was 2 guys hugging each other while a shark was tryng to eat them ..haha
ummm the m14 cant hit some 1 at 1000 yards and still be enough to kill some 1. yes i have used one and yes i have hit a target at 500 yards and it punched thru the steel plate like a bb goes thru paper
Nope not necessarily. Some guys are given SAWS and all that good stuff too. For me it was when I got shot in the hand and dropped my gun. The stock, barrel, and trigger guard fell off..like busted. That's not very reliable. They had already started reissuing M14's during the beginning of Afghanistan. I was a lucky one though, who got reissued the best gun in military, the M14.
Yes, I did. It was alright..I liked the longer barrel though on the M14. Maybe it's all in my head that it has better accuracy but a positive thought can get you a long way in war.
I've certainly never seen a stock break. Even while striking steel posts and dummies with them during the bayonet assault course, I've never seen one break, though one of the fatter guys I went to basic with did manage to bend the barrel and pop off the handguards.
Last I checked, the light MG you are advocating fires the same round the M16 fires (5.56mm). It does not compare to the M14's 7.62 NATO. Yes, I have fired each of them.
500 meters with iron sights is doable with any of the three weapons, without spraying and praying.
Don't think the rest of us have your shortcummings at the range.
All the marines I know take accurate shooting serious including myself. I think its bullshit the army uses simulators to shoot the m16. And for all the civilians out there that think that every rifle needs a scope to shoot acurately is bullshit. At paris island we shot out to 500 meters iron sights only
raptor660jarhead 10 months ago
@raptor660jarhead 500 meter with wht rifle? m14?
metalmessiahmetal 8 months ago
@metalmessiahmetal 500 meters with iron sights on an M16. 5.56mm. Just about any Marine can do it.
GriffGruff78 6 months ago
@GriffGruff78 hahah i laugh at ur face !! the bullet will drop bout 19 inches and get draged by the wind its just not consistent enough at those ranges no marine would ever seriously attempt the shot with there m4 or m16 as there frist option
metalmessiahmetal 6 months ago
@metalmessiahmetal - Dude, every basic Marine has hit a silouette on the 500m range with an M16. Also, I would LOVE to know what load you're shooting to only have 19 inches of drop at 500 meters. That would be a pretty dandy round indeed.
GriffGruff78 6 months ago
@GriffGruff78 wht i know bout the army is that squad range so 10 rounds is 300 meters with an aug same round 5.56 basically same accuracy. ill correct the drop in inches its like 30 sumthing inches at 500meter so even worse 500 meters
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GriffGruff78 6 months ago
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@metalmessiahmetal I think the drop would be closer to 50 inches with M855 out of an M16. About 20 clicks elevation adjustment.
GriffGruff78 6 months ago
@metalmessiahmetal A lot of shooting competitors will simply zero their iron-sighted AR's at 500 and then proceed through the course with a 6 o'clock point-of-aim on all targets.
GriffGruff78 6 months ago
with a scope bull i had ti do it with peep sights in the army and did it dam well to
allbadbones 10 months ago
@allbadbones u probly woulda done it better with a scope tho
metalmessiahmetal 8 months ago
if he's hitting anything at range with that wind...mad props
NoobInaCan 1 year ago
@NoobInaCan mate thats fuck all. try 1000 yards with 30+ minutes of wind. what a crazy morning that was!
tomeanator80 1 year ago
@tomeanator80 Nothing like shooting at 9 or 3 o' clock to hit a target at 12 o' clock.
vector6977 1 year ago
300 meters kailangan mo mag compute ng windage and elevation peru pag red dot adjust ka nalang sa second shot expected na kasi di tatama ung first shot at saka yong ammo mo dapat mag katimbang kasi basihan yong pag gusto mo titira ng malayoan. peru maganda place nyo makakapraktis ka kung kailan mo gusto. GOOD GUN keep it up
kentawagi 1 year ago
ayus yan...
gelo23233 1 year ago
you cant hit shit with that wind
m6dm90 2 years ago
Not exactly, the right scope you have knobs adjusting for elevation and windage
Covertmaddroxx1 2 years ago
lol WHO FARTED?
MrSceneKid 2 years ago
I love the M14, sub 500m, no scope for me.
Goodspittin 2 years ago
The M14 just like the Belgian FN FAL (and its "copies" like the German G3 and alike) is an incredible rifle.
Perfect DMR weapon to me. Plus it has this "oldy" style :)
Victortrotska 3 years ago 2
Wasn't the G3 based on the CETME?
redmunkee 3 years ago
You are correct my friend. I didn't mean copy as a "based on rifle" but more as a sentimental thing : p. The CETME rifles were based on the Stg45 because engineers from Mauser joined CETME. Germany bought the license to manufacture CETME model A (7.52NATO) as the FN refused to sell the license for the FN FAL to Germany.
Victortrotska 3 years ago
umm f****genuis iirc Marines are trained to effectively hit targets out to 500m.
Also iirc shooters compete in a 1000 yard competition with m14's with iron sights. So i fail to understand where your information comes from.
Malleus117 3 years ago
Hell i've seen a guy take out a deer at 433M with a remington 700.
ganymedeIV4 3 years ago
hey nice shooting. i seen in the video that the wind up and then died down. did that fuck u up shooting. i love you shooting of a bag which is hard i know.
deadlydelta 3 years ago
REDNECK= "Son, aim at that there road"
madannfrank 3 years ago 2
It's prolly his private driveway, so if someone's coming up there and they did call to let them know they're on their way they obviously don't have permission to be on his land
qwertynads3 3 years ago
Yes the target is smaller than the front sight post. Yes the army has the ALT-C up to 300 meters. The argument is that no one can hit a man size target past 300 meters. I am going to have to post video to prove this can be done with open sights. Yes I know the graduations go to 800 meters. Thats for an area target. This also gives me excuse to buy metal popper target.
sierrareloader 3 years ago
There were some snipers of the Vietnam era that could and did kill people at 1000 YARDS with the M14. Yeah, it was with iron sights.
GordonALWAYS 3 years ago
Ever noticed that professional video gamers try to tell you that you can't hit a man target at 500 meters with open sights. I qualified at those such ranges. Hell I wish I could shoot my AR15, M1A, and .308 bolt at the local ranges. The farthest range here has only 300 yards. 300 yards is suppose to be easy hunting range. Do a search of Army and or Marine qualification requirements. I love and hate the M16. It has kept me alive but its a bitch to clean ;)
sierrareloader 3 years ago
What armed service are you in that required qualification passed 300M?
Have you ever shot an ALT-C target beyond 300M? The silhouette wouldn't be visible without magnification, and secondly, it would be smaller then the front sight.
A 80+ grain .223 or 5.56 round would be blown around beyond 300M making most attempts beyond futile. It's not a round designed to reach out with assured accuracy.
itsn8dog 3 years ago
umm thats not that far of a range for an m15 if i can hit a man sized target 10/10 at 500m with an m16 and iron sights. that shot is cake
mgzukows 3 years ago
I dont believe you!!!
halomolim 3 years ago
mgzukows, first of all your claims are far fetched fantasies. When u see a man, 500m away without optics, it is a dot on the horizon, and every shot attempt is a hail mary, waste of ammo. Hell, during battles soldiers don't even bother shooting past
300m with personal, iron sighted weapons. m16 round can barely stop a man at 500m, provided it hits him.
halomolim 3 years ago
first off correct my spelling mistake m-14. Well gents look it up USMC range qual is at 200, 300 and 500. at the 500 you must engage a man sized target in the prone with a 10 round slow fire. I say 10/10 because the last time i qualed i hit the black(The man sized target) 10 times out of 10 rounds. we do this with iron sights.
mgzukows 3 years ago
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an m16 passed 450m wont penertrate body armour, and with iron sights ? it doesnt matter if it can or cant , because you wont hit it, with any gun, m16, m14 , the best chance you have at 500 m is with a Light machine gun , SPRAY AND PRAY
fukinggenius 3 years ago
Fucking arm chair soldiers. Look people have engaged and killed at that range with iron sites lets see the battle of belleau wood the germans called them devil dogs because they were engaging and killing at 800+ yards. Just because you can't do it doesn't mean no one can.
mgzukows 3 years ago 16
you can qual up to 600 yards on a man size target with iron sites like mgzukows said 10/10 is actually very obtainable I qualified expert 5 years in a row when i was in the marines And yes I have shot and hit a target at 600 using iron sites Not every time but the shots werent a fluke either Proper sight alignment combined with controlled breathing trigger pull and proper support along with windage and elevation corrections and you can hit your target every time all Marines are Riflemen first
xWildmanR1x 3 years ago
@mgzukows
The whole Devil Dogs nickname was made up by American propaganda, sorry to disappoint you. The supposed German nickname "Teufelhunden" (Devil Dogs) is grammatically incorrect even ignoring the problem that the soldiers weren't really in casual conversation with the Germans to find out the nicknames.
That aside they still fought like motherfuckers even considering poor quality of late-war German troops.
Schuultz 1 year ago 3
@mgzukows The term soldier and devil dog should never be used in the same sentence, paragraph, page or chapter! Soldier, Worrier, hooa etc is a term to describe Army personnel... Devil dog, Jar Head is referring to a Marine. We dont go around calling Airmen soldiers or Marines Seamen hahha I said seamen lol... gets me every time!!!
XxfuckthapolicexX 1 year ago
@XxfuckthapolicexX ...Were you being serious?
snoopyofdoomxx 1 year ago
@snoopyofdoomxx Marines take that stuff seriously. Another reason for people to watch their wording.
themeleed 1 year ago
@themeleed i saw poster once that revealed what the military really does and it had like every branch ..the marines was a guy in the siting in a mud puddle holding binoculars ,the airforce was a fat guy in a chair playing video games ,the army was a guy laying in the dirt ,and the navy was 2 guys hugging each other while a shark was tryng to eat them ..haha
PEEWEEK707 1 year ago
@PEEWEEK707 lol nice =p
themeleed 1 year ago
@themeleed hah yeah
PEEWEEK707 1 year ago
@mgzukows ahahahahh thts not how belleau wood went down
metalmessiahmetal 8 months ago
ummm the m14 cant hit some 1 at 1000 yards and still be enough to kill some 1. yes i have used one and yes i have hit a target at 500 yards and it punched thru the steel plate like a bb goes thru paper
warrockslashman1 3 years ago
Well I used one in Iraq and yes it can.
amerikanerMarinen 3 years ago
i know it can, i pressed the t by misstake srry
warrockslashman1 3 years ago
How does that actually worked?, I thought you are assigned a rifle (M16 ofcourse) and no questions asked.
cheesepumpkins 2 years ago
Nope not necessarily. Some guys are given SAWS and all that good stuff too. For me it was when I got shot in the hand and dropped my gun. The stock, barrel, and trigger guard fell off..like busted. That's not very reliable. They had already started reissuing M14's during the beginning of Afghanistan. I was a lucky one though, who got reissued the best gun in military, the M14.
amerikanerMarinen 2 years ago 4
Did you get to fire the Socom 16.
I also saw soldiers that accidentally dropped M16s and THE STOCK BROKE!!
I would not have believed if I had not seen it. I am convinced the M16 hurt us badly in Vietnam.
wddenis3 2 years ago
Yes, I did. It was alright..I liked the longer barrel though on the M14. Maybe it's all in my head that it has better accuracy but a positive thought can get you a long way in war.
amerikanerMarinen 2 years ago 3
well said
deGothiaSweden 2 years ago
I've certainly never seen a stock break. Even while striking steel posts and dummies with them during the bayonet assault course, I've never seen one break, though one of the fatter guys I went to basic with did manage to bend the barrel and pop off the handguards.
AreThereNoMoreNames 2 years ago
I have broke handgaurds in the back of mlvws .
Kellyrt 2 years ago
i mean it can i typed cant by mistake srry guys
warrockslashman1 3 years ago
The video is about the M14, not the M16.
Last I checked, the light MG you are advocating fires the same round the M16 fires (5.56mm). It does not compare to the M14's 7.62 NATO. Yes, I have fired each of them.
500 meters with iron sights is doable with any of the three weapons, without spraying and praying.
Don't think the rest of us have your shortcummings at the range.
tonkhunter 3 years ago
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the ak 47 shoots up to 300 meters...with an m14 you could shoot up to 800 meters and more...you suck :)
anteracmacash 4 years ago
You're games have polluted your mind.
He doesn't suck, do you even know what he's shooting at? He's not using a scope either, it's an aimpoint.
sigmasquadleader 4 years ago 27
@sigmasquadleader do you know what qualifies as a scope???????????
crashdummy40 1 year ago
You obviously have never fired a rifle. And his Aimpoint does not have a magnifier.
xx0ur3n 4 years ago 6
hey dumbass maybe that range only goes to 300. besides just cause it can shoot 800 doesnt mean he only uses it at that range
sniper6394 4 years ago 3
the ak's not even accurate at 200 yards let alone 300 meters
rockyman500 3 years ago 2
300m with 308 isnt very fair
hill116in 4 years ago
without a scope yes
FRIZZBI07 4 years ago
Is so easy to shoot and hit holding your scoped rifle in a bag. Try stand firing with iron sights...
moreno1310 4 years ago 2
Iron sights all the way!!
recruit71 4 years ago
why not make steel or platnum sights oh yeah worth more bitch rofl
FRIZZBI07 4 years ago
nice shooting? can't see what the hell hes shooting at... if anyone wants to make a shooting video show the poi please
superwoofer2007 4 years ago