About the scouting, if oversky wouldve been in the topleft there wouldve been a 50% chance of overskys overlord beeing in greats base. So I guess he played the odds and went cross map.
hey mate, its not hacks :) it's that he KNEW where oversky was! How? easy: regardless of which direction oversky sent his over, if by the time great's over reached bottom left he hadn't ssen oversky's in his own base, then he could infer that Oversky must be at cross-position. Oh and yeah 12 pool makes way better sense, silly oversky!
I don't think that's true. Suppose Oversky started in the top right position instead and sent his overlord clockwise (to bottom right). Great wouldn't have seen Oversky's overlord and would have guessed wrongly.
Though i think 9 pool into cross position is the best possible build.
Seems like on pro level it would be a rational decision for a newer name like Great to go with a rush on a map that would be macro favored since that's likely what Oversky would do since he more likely could rely on his micro to counter most typical rushes.
Great didnt see an overlord in his base, so he knew that Oversky cannot be at the top right position because of the timing of the overlord, and since he eliminated bottom left wityh his own overlord, the only possible position left is bottom right
Actually, if Oversky was at top right, he could've scouted bottem right first. Still, it's 50/50 for the top right so it's still more likely for him to be at bottem right.
The double commentaries on VioleTAK are definitely my favorite, all you guys are awesome, but the Cholera and Rise team take the protoss cake! (do protoss bake cake...? I'll bet it's delicious)
I saw the old videos of VioleTAK, but the commentator was a completely different person so I was wondering how the account ended beeing used by cholera and rise
The original VioleTAK retired awhile ago and handed over his YouTube account to Cholera/Diggity/Rise/Moletrap. You probably heard Diggity and Moletrap commentating, who are also awesome.
Thanks, but not a good game.
Chrijz 2 years ago
Drone dance of doom! Good game.
soulhunger1 3 years ago
Keep up the good work guys, best commentators around!
WTFISTHISTAKEN 3 years ago
Love cholera + rise commentaries
Azreal90210 3 years ago 5
Very good, continues to improve.
MFrotzer 3 years ago
About the scouting, if oversky wouldve been in the topleft there wouldve been a 50% chance of overskys overlord beeing in greats base. So I guess he played the odds and went cross map.
Bozalii 3 years ago 2
10 - spawn 13 2 creep - 16 - 2 sunks - 18 - hatch - 21 12 lings
SpazInDragIn 3 years ago
lmfao those dancing drones!!
DavenH 3 years ago
wtfhax
cholera.. you are too funny
stevz0r 3 years ago
Great commentatory. i realy enjoyed it.
SpawnPeter2711 3 years ago
Maphacks ftw
Hyounaga 3 years ago
Arrg one of these days we will see a long macro zvz game again! Plz?
Sc0tt08 3 years ago 3
I honestly can't see one of those coming anytime soon.
ChAoS9779 3 years ago
zvz sux
NETMR2 3 years ago
hey mate, its not hacks :) it's that he KNEW where oversky was! How? easy: regardless of which direction oversky sent his over, if by the time great's over reached bottom left he hadn't ssen oversky's in his own base, then he could infer that Oversky must be at cross-position. Oh and yeah 12 pool makes way better sense, silly oversky!
COUNTERBALANCE2 3 years ago 2
I don't think that's true. Suppose Oversky started in the top right position instead and sent his overlord clockwise (to bottom right). Great wouldn't have seen Oversky's overlord and would have guessed wrongly.
Though i think 9 pool into cross position is the best possible build.
MOrningOrbit 3 years ago 3
really? no hacks? on a televised game? :OOO
sodoomia 3 years ago
Build order loss.
illusionist1324 3 years ago
Great's mind: "hehehe I have map hack"
Sonix21 3 years ago
zvz, rock paper sissors, unless ur jaedong
INS1cells 3 years ago 5
So true
Hyounaga 3 years ago
its aw3s0m3 gam3z =D when cholera and reach commentate
valentine452 3 years ago
build order losses are depressing. :(
mrsmi1ey 3 years ago
just love ur commentarys, keep up the great work : D
bodgg 3 years ago
Ouch. I didn't realize people did 8 ling rush in pro play.
DescentToCocytus 3 years ago
Seems like on pro level it would be a rational decision for a newer name like Great to go with a rush on a map that would be macro favored since that's likely what Oversky would do since he more likely could rely on his micro to counter most typical rushes.
cataphracts123 3 years ago
The leg upgrade was upgraded with the first 100 gas. 12 hatch is so risky at zvz. 12 pool looks best at this map.
Tillysouth 3 years ago
Rock beats Scissors, 9 pool beats 12 hatch.
Sorry Oversky...
BruceYammosk 3 years ago 3
Bar the funky vent lag occasionally, the dual commentaries are awesome.
Overtures 3 years ago 2
llolollololollololol cholera is a pretty cool guy, he makes commentaries and doesnt afraid of anything
lazomaniac 3 years ago
Great didnt see an overlord in his base, so he knew that Oversky cannot be at the top right position because of the timing of the overlord, and since he eliminated bottom left wityh his own overlord, the only possible position left is bottom right
henrybai1988 3 years ago
Actually, if Oversky was at top right, he could've scouted bottem right first. Still, it's 50/50 for the top right so it's still more likely for him to be at bottem right.
neobowman 3 years ago 3
being at one position or another doesnt affect the chances of spawn location..
FlyingAce1717 3 years ago
It'sssss (drumroll) Cholera!!
hahaha
Nice introduction to a deadly disease.
flyinggeng 3 years ago
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PLEASE CHOLERA STOP THE PUNS
"Stats really doesnt have very good stats" x2
"Great doing really great" x1
Araghghg
TakeFiv3 3 years ago
poor oversky...
kpg51876 3 years ago
"LIIIIIIIITTLE BIIIIIIIIT shady to me though..."
Absolutely awesome commentary guys!
endoexo 3 years ago 3
Loved that. :)
Thanks for the commentary!
PrTrCr 3 years ago
lol like a 5min game good ling rush even from cross position
CyrilCaps 3 years ago
MAP HACKER!
destinedwind 3 years ago
The double commentaries on VioleTAK are definitely my favorite, all you guys are awesome, but the Cholera and Rise team take the protoss cake! (do protoss bake cake...? I'll bet it's delicious)
HastyMcLovin 3 years ago 4
Well geez that was a quick game.
xrev1 3 years ago
I saw the old videos of VioleTAK, but the commentator was a completely different person so I was wondering how the account ended beeing used by cholera and rise
newphew92 3 years ago
The original VioleTAK retired awhile ago and handed over his YouTube account to Cholera/Diggity/Rise/Moletrap. You probably heard Diggity and Moletrap commentating, who are also awesome.
devestek 3 years ago
Go read VioleTak account description.
One of them might explain more i suppose...
hodor 3 years ago
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First! :)
Xpeijz 3 years ago