John Coleman slams global warming (4 of 4)

[odunne2]

it's all good EXCEPT the comments on nuclear power. it is not practical. requires government waivers from liability to even operate economically. it's the most centralized corrupt power source in the world.

ironically nuclear power is the main driver for this global warming bs. there is money to be made in carbon regulation. but probably even more to be made in nuclear if the plan is implemented.

[jburr36]

Global Warming is nothing more than a tool that proponents of a 1 world government, anti-capitalists, and proponents of massive wealth redistribution flocked to after the fall of the soviet union destroyed the prospects of progression of communism. The so called solutions to global warming is the exact same agenda as those who propose the 1 world government and anticapitalists who demand massive wealth redistribution. A consensus on global warming existed before any science was ever proposed.

[pucksterz12]

So far here in San Diego this is the coolest and rainiest May that I can remember in 40 years. What does this mean? Absolutley nothing. Everything is relative. Maybe we had a brief run of good weather for the past half century which was the norm. Maybe the new norm is cool and wet. Would rather have that than hot and dry. So stop all of the whinning in San Diego about not having perfect weather 365 days a year. This is great!

[LeonSkottKennedey]

@qsteveens sorrie but global wariming ist a lie. W(v)alkan erupted und relasedd morr CO2 than all av Human historie.

[couldntcareanyway]

The US didn't pioneer nuclear power, the first nuclear power station was in Scotland!

[Protege385]

@qsteveens So you agree that poor countries will squander funds we will send them (and are sending them currently) and you agree that cap and trade "addresses many economic inequities" as you put it. Do you support Cap and Trade? If not, what do you think could be a solution to global warming (assuming it is a real thing, that humans are causing).

[Protege385]

@qsteveens So, your rebuttal of my point was . . . ???? You rebutted the video, not what I said. Many on the right believe that the UN's involvement is mostly based around taking money from rich countries and funneling it to poor countries. The leaders of the poor countries do not put the money to good use. If you think that is untrue, then I'm at a loss for words.

[Protege385]

@qsteveens I'm sure the dictators running 3rd world countries will rush to spend that UN cash on tree planting. Not living in the real world dude.

[bad4ever2001]

@calscott1 I support the Venus Project and the Zeitgeist Movement. Check them out.

[bad4ever2001]

@calscott1 Hey buddy, no need to apologise man, I see where you are coming from though, but consider, he does know something though and some of what he says in this video actually does make sense. I am not a fan of the AGW theory as I believe that whilst human activity has a hand in this, the climate and its mechanisms are vastly complex to summarise that it is entirely our fault. So yes, GW is happening, but so was global cooling before that and a global warming before.

[bdhcarbon]

'you and many other scientists...' This guy is not a scientist, he is an entertainer.

[bad4ever2001]

@calscott1 he said that two years ago.

[bad4ever2001]

Can't they just plant more trees? Or even better, Hemp?

[bstnrdsxfrk]

@qsteveens So instead of trusting the founder of the Weather Channel, you trust Al Gore, a politician who had a 2.2 GPA at Harvard (lower GPA than George W Bush) and barely passed the natural science classes. Also, you cite wikipedia as an expert source....yet you call John Coleman clueless. Get a clue.

[netpropheting]

China is adding 100,000 megawatts of coal-fired capacity per yr. They are not going to trade 3 cent coal power for 40 cent solar pwr or 25 cent wind pwr like we are doing. Solar or wind are barely competitie with massive tax credits and carbon credit trading schemes. 1 windmill generates a piddling 2 to 3 megawatts and it takes more energy to build one than the dang thing will produce in 25 years! We are fools being led to the economic slaughterhouse.

[Aprize0]

Hey everybody...the reason all these things are so expensive is the ideal deterrent for keeping everyone ON the grid, while the prices go up & up each year!! If it's too costly, people can't afford it & won't do it, an obvious manipulation of our options to alternative energy sources. China produces the greatest amt of solar panels. Of course it can be made cheaper, but how are they going to make any money from FREE? The sun, water, wind are ALL free, can't exactly patent them right?

[Noodleydoo]

I listen to this man and feel ashamed of my generation. He is grounded, intelligent, and unbiased--I don't think people my age and younger are even capable of being that way anymore. Bravo, Mr Coleman

[SergeiFragov]

Dont you get it?! the cold is because of global warming!!! :D

[ReduceGHGs]

Cap and Trade is one option and perhaps the only one that is politically viable. A pure carbon tax is another option. The point is to reduce global net emissions so we can curb the more negative consequences of global warming.

For a debunking of Coleman, try this recent article.

Google

Hot air: Why don't TV weathermen believe in climate change?

For honest science try,

Google

Scientific Opinion on Climate Change Wikipedia

[bad4ever2001]

@ReduceGHGs They could also just plant more trees though, or like i mentioned elsewhere on this channel, hemp. ^^ I don't see how trading carbon points reduces the act of carbon emissions, bigger companies will buy out all the points they can get and justify their pollution.

[RepublicanNatio]

What an excellent series, as someone stated earlier, I'd like to shake his hand as well.

[DumblyBrilliant]

Lefties ALWAYS appeal to emotionalism to get their "causes" funded. From feminism to global warming, stirring peoples emotions is what drives them. Basically they copy people like Hitler and Mao. They hate facts because facts shoot down their emotional rhetoric. T

[TheLaugher4192]

And so do Righties unfortunately - think pictures of dead babies, "facts" about the motives of gays & lesbians, oh yea, and the biggest and most expensive hoax of all time ... the need to take out Sadam in Iraq.

Pot, meet kettle.

[DumblyBrilliant]

When I think fo dead babies I think fo 43 million dead babies since Roe V Wade and the emotional but false arguments used to creat infantiside as a legal pursuit.

Gays, Lesbians and feminists all promoted by the left. All destroying our families and social stability.

Iraq was bombed by left and right. Both were wrong. Both were greedy little hitmen wanting to prove how tough they were and get their avarcious hands on oil.

The latest hoax is also left and right: Global warming.

[TyrantsAREhere]

Good interview. We could have been a using Solar Power a long time ago, but the Oil company's buy out the patents and lobby against it. Should you ever get the chance to ride the Green Line Trolley in San Diego, take note of the China owned Costco when you pass by. You'll be looking down onto a roof entirely covered with Solar Panels, 100's of them, fills the entire roof. I'll let you make your own political mind up about what that's about.

[DrD0000M]

Oil companies do NOT buy out alternative energy patents and hide them! All patents are PUBLIC INFORMATION freely available on the internet. Also patents only last 20 years so any super energy patents they did buy would be void now or soon.

The real reason solar energy hasn't taken over is because it's initial cost is extremely expensive compared to alternatives and the best solar panels are only 10 to 20% efficient.

Perhaps future tech will make them cheap for everyday use, but not yet.

[TyrantsAREhere]

Explain then, why does Costco have their entire roof covered with solar panels, apparantly those panels are efficient enough, so they do exist, you're proven wrong. Explain why Americans aren't using them on their roofs? Explain why any working persons, as far as that goes, are forced to pay electric companies for their home electricity and oil companies for their oil burning cars? see you live in Disneyland and need to wake up. I suggest throwing your TV away for starters.

[AEVautomatic]

startup costs also they want it to look better. There are windows now with solar cells that generate power. Lotta people dont want solar panaels on house.

[DrD0000M]

I stopped watching TV six months ago actually. Costco can afford solar panels because it's mostly for PR and being a huge company they can afford the cost. The fact is the average homeowner can't pay the $25,000-$100,000 it would cost to get completely off the grid with solar panels and they wear down after 25 years or so making it more expensive than buying electricity. If you want affordable independence buy windmills not solar, much cheaper if you have the room. Solar is for rich hippies.

[glennimmortal]

Couldn't agree more, its like hybrid cars. Which are the wealthy's guilt tript that makes them feel good about them selves. USA doesn't even sell the 65MPG Hyundai common rail diesels not to mention all the European ones. Its a joke

[cobes155]

actually windmills are pretty expensive also, but other than that you got it

[DrD0000M]

'cept a person can actually build fairly cheap windmills (including the alternator/generator) from scratch and they can still put out a pretty decent amount of power. The only solar cells a normal person can make are the cupric oxide based ones which are worthlessly inefficient, though a neat science project.

[DrD0000M]

One more thing about the oil companies buying out the super solar panel patents is, like I said, ALL PATENTS ARE PUBLIC INFORMATION, freely available on the internet so show me, which patents does an oil company own preventing us from using super cheap solar panels. Patents also expire and people have talked of this conspiracy crap for decades. The fact is solar panels are as good as we can make them right now. They will get better but it takes more research. "Solar panel paint" for instance

[TheSailer99]

America lost New Orleans and it was not a problem bur when it loses Florida and Baltimore and a few more rich cities and the mid west turns to dust and the Mississippi dries up will they begin to wonder what is happening.

[dss8345]

The reason that Hurricane Katrina and other recent hurricanes are doing so much damage is because of coastal development, not global warming. There used to be miles of marsh land on the coast of Louisiana that would reduce the strength of a hurricane before it made landfall. By developing the marshes into residential and commercial properties, hurricanes are now hitting populated areas at full strength, causing much more damage than in the past.

[ruben18753]

project venus

you know once you realise you've been lied to about one suject. its easy to see that you've been lied to about other things as well this "gaslight" treatment that scientists get with global warming is what they get on alot of subjects and the same in other fields too. we went from kitty hawk to the moon but were still driving glorified model-T's. the computer went from punch cards and building size to OMG my watch has more data than a cray-2 supercomputer.

[drutter]

Excellent interview. This guy was bang on.

[HardlineAthiest]

Are you retarded? Climate Change has been already solved thanks the new Global Carbon Credit Tax scheme that Ben Bernanke, Al Gore and Obama are signing into law.

JP Morgan, Citibank & AIG are set to manage global trading of carbon offsets on Wall Street, promising a cash injection of trillions toward our failing economy. The argument isnt whether or not climate change is real, but simply a matter of paying your fair share into the new green tax that will stop these catastrophic warming trends.

[Tesselator]

Me too!!

And wow, what a strong ending! Great 4-part series! Thanks for this!

[FirebirdKnight]

I'd like to shake his hand.

[81maar81]

most things he is telling is true. but why the hell is this guy telling us about icecapes are not melting??

[81maar81]

who has give that guy money for that crap!?

[charbroiledmonk1033]

do you have an actual response or are you a child?

[umilmi81]

"What will the global warming doomsayers do next year". Rename Global Warming to Global Climate change. Now it's 100% unfalsifiable. Victory to the authoritarians.

[charbroiledmonk1033]

yeah maybe you should look at the ACTUAL scientific evidence before you open your mouth again. Try NASA, i hear they have some pretty smart people working there.

[jjmdirector]

absolutely right. they have already started to say global climate change now. I thought that was a bit funny too.

[measgoon]

i love this guy! how the public are continually lied to and the politicians keep lying and getting away with it is unbelieveble we are all so dumb!!!! AMERICA WAKE UP!!!!!!!

[Vynjira]

List part 2

amaranth, barley, buckwheat, finger millet, fonio, foxtail millet, corn, rice, rye, wheat, kidney bean, lima bean, pea, raspberry, blackberry, blueberry, cranberry, currant, grape, strawberry, eggplant, gourds, peppers, squash, pumpkin, zucchini, tomato, beet, carrot, parsnip, radish, turnip, potato, sweet potato, yam

Lastly Soy which decreases brain functions.

If you've eaten any of these in your lifetime.. and your alive.. stop worrying.

[Vynjira]

List part 1

apricot, cherry, chupanilla plum, coconut, mango, olive, banana, plum, apple, loquat, medlar, pear, quince, sapodilla, calabash, tucuma, babacu, acai, wild pineapple, cocopalm, Panama-hat palm, peach palm, ice-cream bean, breadfruit, durian, ensete, fig, jackfruit, papaya, passionfruit, citron, grapefruit, lemon, lime, orange, pomelo, tangerine, almond, cashew, chestnut, hazelnut, macadamia, pecan, pistachio, walnut

[Vynjira]

Its been 4 years since the allegations and only on the internet do you find articles discussing it...

You claim that they are covering it up then why not smear it like they do with the scientists against anthropogenic climate change?

You'd think this evil conspiracy could at least spread rumors in the opposite direction...

But no worries just keep repeating Vynjira is a mercenary and you will win your argument.

[ancestralblue]

Issues are kept out of the news that will really sabotage the agenda. You don't hear ANYTHING about NAIS and what it will do to farmers, ranchers and consumer prices for animal proteins. Also nothing about bills that are being hustled through congress to pass control of the food supply into the hands of monster corps like Monsanto disguised as" food safety" protection.

There are all kinds of issues that they'd much rather keep under wraps So...distraction and fluff is what they prefer.

[Vynjira]

Maybe you should explain your point... NAIS is voluntary as far as I know.. The only danger is if they start subsidies for participation.

Their looking for sensationalism....

[BullshitArt101]

the codex alimentarius. global control of world food supply. World Health Organization predicts 3 BILLION deaths as a result.

[Vynjira]

Rima Laibow predicts.. you mean.

Seriously.. if you've ever eaten a banana and survived to tell the story.. then your worried about nothing..

I'll post back with a full list of foods that should have killed you already if Rima Laibow predictions were correct.

[BullshitArt101]

i think its possible you misunderstood her. the WHO will label foods as poisons and in turn curb their distribution greatly.. she isnt saying they are poisons(what the hell are you talking about).

i live in upstate ny in the woods. a fereind of mine who has just a few farm animals and an acre garden was recently visited by the department of agriculture...they had aerial photos of his place and demanded knowledge of exactly what he was producing. they adamantly asked about fruits and nuts.

[nameofthepen]

Vynjira - Wrong. People will come here, see your agenda, and even if they can't put it into words, will still instinctively know there is something very wrong with it.

That's what your kind will never understand about the decent people of Earth. We think and operate completely differently from you and your masters.

We are your worst nightmare.

[Vynjira]

Or they will see that neither you or AB actually argued your points.

"We are your worst nightmare."

I think they'll see it differently.

[ancestralblue]

People who work only from a left brained paradigm have very little capacity to feel and instinct is limited, in this case, to what can be proven acceptable to the scientific priesthood and the funding providers, even if it's only half correct. And vynjira would have left long ago if he thought that people would agree with him, but, he's paid to make the agenda acceptable. And you know how they do it Nom. One twist at a time.

[Vynjira]

The mainstream media jumps on sensationalist stories. I agree news is slanted but you have filters. O'Riley interviewing Dawkins.. as an example.. you could see the moment Dawkins said something Bill didn't like he switched the topic. All the news stations do it..

The point is they bring people on the show to discredit them because their audience will typically buy what the newscaster is selling.

My problem is there is no mention of it at all.

[Vynjira]

Simply put I'm more than willing to discuss any facts you think you have but don't for a second think I won't check its validity.

If you think my information is invalid show me an independent verification that your source is accurate.

Thats how real science works.. peer review... independent verification, repeatable tests..

None of the Greenpeace studies have been repeatable and were found to be incredibly flawed.

[Vynjira]

Is that why Greenpeace makes 212 million dollars a year.. and why they use it to destroy the 3rd world and why Wal-Mart uses its money to help Katrina Victims and all the other charity work they do? Yea their not saints.. but they do spend a lot more money helping people than Greenpeace.

[ancestralblue]

The money is the game. And your desperation shows how you are well trained to respond to it's stimulation. Money stimulates the reptilian complex in the brain. That's where survival impulses come from. It's where fear, territoriality, and competition originate. And that's what is used to control the population and keep them in fear. That's what CREATES their poverty and poverty thinking. And perpetrators often give generously. So does the mob. It's a good distraction.

[Vynjira]

lol.. I'm keeping them in fear now? Are you even paying attention to your argument?

My desperation? Who's been spreading lies..? Every time I shot down your argument with facts you tried to discredit the science with claims that its no good because money is evil?

You need a reality check.. this fantasy world of Demons/Aliens/Conspiracies/Pse­udoscience/Mysticism and turning terrorists into heroes is utter nonsense..

[ancestralblue]

No...you need the reality check. Before the institution of the money system on all indigenous populations there was no poverty, pollution and serious greed was almost non existent. Since that time mankind has been a slave to "financial interests" and their quests to own and control everything. Money is the tool of empire. The terrorists are people like you who play the hero and yet sell the people and the planet out to further their"financial interests".

[Vynjira]

lol? Me play the Hero? Like I said are you even paying attention to your argument?

Do you really believe the ends justify the means?

Your willing to kill millions to destroy the "evil" economy...?

You won't even take responsibility for it.. you pop their life raft and then blame the rest of the world for not helping enough.. and you pretend your the hero...

I don't understand how you can live with yourself.

[ancestralblue]

You are a money grubbing parasite. You and your slanted "science" is just what it has always been, serving an agenda. You take your cut and help the rich get richer over the backs of the ones that they have impoverished. I don't know how YOU live with yourself. If anyone has killed millions, it's people like you who will say anything and do anything to gain wealth. YOU disgust me!

[Vynjira]

More claims that I work as part of your conspiracy theory...

It all fits when people disagree with you... it doesn't take much research to throw out biased opinions as unscientific.. and multiple independent studies showing the same or very similar results.

It says a lot when Patrick Moore(founding member) leaves Greenpeace and starts advocating for Nuclear and Logging..

It says more when one side of the argument uses fear to push their opinion.

[ancestralblue]

Oh and by the way, Google " Europe dumping nuclear waste off of the coast of Somalia." There are tons of news agencies covering that. Ohhh...but it's not slanted in your direction! You probably don't want to read it or you'll blow it off as pseudoscience because it tells the truth.

[Vynjira]

I'll read anything you link.. to check its validity..

All the source Material is based off a report from Nick Nuttall in 2005... I could find no mainstream news covering the issue. Only extremist coverage of allegations made in 2005..

Its odd for mainstream media not to be covering such a story.. leads me to believe the investigation never pulled anything credible.

Absence of proof is not proof, as a skeptic I await more credible sources.

[ancestralblue]

Oh you mean mainstream news that is trimmed down in ownership to three corporate giants that filter the news to serve corporate agendas? Guess that's why most people have turned to the internet for news, they're sick of being lied to by people like you. And to be sure, credible only means that which furthers the agenda.

[Vynjira]

Despite Gore's best attempts to silence the scientific dissent there is still some mainstream coverage opposite of Gore's agenda..

So its hard for me to believe they have so thoroughly silenced Somali Eco-Heroes..

My research can be independently verified. I like more than 1 source of information.. EVERY article online points to Nick's 2005 allegations.

Name a couple people that have checked Nick's allegations. Not just cited them.

Is that so unreasonable?

[ancestralblue]

So in other words if one whistleblower tells about what's going on, he's not beleiveable. I recall Scott Ritter being in that same position about the war being proposed in Iraq. A lone voice who said that there were no weapons of mass destruction and he was discredited in the mainstream news. But that's how it works. Any whistleblower that stands in the way of profit is discredited or dead.

[Vynjira]

Ok, but the point is you've been detracting the argument from your second post. I have indulged it because I wanted to hear everything you had to say.. even tho I completely disagree.

You brought up Somali pirates to add a point in your debate.. trying to push this secret agenda I have skewing my responses... so I pointed out that your information was a lil screwy...

Its very possible that Nick was right but you don't assume he's right either.

[ancestralblue]

The information was not screwy. You just didn't know about it. And at this point, I no longer trust mainstream news as a source of anything that has validity. It was they who cultured public opinion to get us into Iraq on behalf of corporate giants by painting a false picture. They had all kinds of expert opinions. They all did it. They lied. At this point, all we can do is hope that the lone voices get their message out before they're silenced.

[Vynjira]

The information is screwy because you brought up political affairs to refute scientific affairs.. The Somali Pirates is a political issue... and like I said its one person..

I said its possible he's right.. but we cannot assume he is. Instead of hoping, demand investigations.. certainly someone will pull up new information one way or the other..

[ancestralblue]

Demanding investigations never works where there's a vested interest in keeping the truth quiet. That's why the mainstream Investigations prewar in Iraq did nothing but assure the public that there was a need for war. Lying is consistant where there's profit to be made. And it's ALWAYS about money. So are political affairs. And it's absolutely true, that money is the game, even where science is applied.

[nameofthepen]

Mad props for you, ancestralblue. Your posts are correct, and very well-put. Thank you.

Vynjira comes across to me as one very nasty sell-out with a toxic agenda to peddle. Thanks for standing up to him and his BS. :-)

[Vynjira]

Yet its environmentalists that have killed over 200 million in 3rd worlds since the start of Greenpeace.

Meanwhile the charity of people like Bill Gates has been working to fix those problems...

All you do is spread pseudoscience to keep the 3rd world in poverty. Maybe its time you try living in Africa.. and then telling them your lies about how DDT is toxic and Golden Rice is poisonous and that they should use expensive solar power to clean your air.

[ancestralblue]

Your money system is Pseudoscience. A collection of symbols on paper whose only power is collective agreement. When people begin to understand the ruse and reject it's usage, the whole top down economics pyramid will fall. It's that system that keeps them enslaved, impoverished and sick. To people like you everything is for sale. Food is for sale, healing is for sale and life in general is for sale. That's because money is your God and you can't think past it.

[ancestralblue]

Well...lucky you! I do have to get some sleep. My work demands that I replenish MY energy. We'll slap this around tomorrow.

 Sleep well!

[ancestralblue]

You can take it however you want. And the "consensus" that the containers can withstand missile fire are as good as the consensus that the WTC could withstand a plane crash. It didn't and neither will they.

[Vynjira]

They DID.. past tense.. they conducted tests and used the same container for multiple tests including missile fire, train collisions, fires and the like...

Physically conducted the tests, not computer models like WTC..

Similarly computer models have been wrong about Global Climate Change.. and they are the basis for IPCC reports.

[ancestralblue]

You don't know what they did. You read a report from the very people who are trying to give themselves a case Your primary interest is selling this to the public and that ain't a gonna' happen. Nuclear is over.

[Keeban3]

You people are all insane. When you talk about alternatives to gasoline it is all about energy. Well coal doesn't power cars, nor does nuclear energy, nor does wind, nor does the sun. I'm pretty sure that price per amp, all of these whoop the crap out of gasoline. But gasoline is condensed and easily used. If you want alternatives to run cars batteries are the problem. THIS WILL NOT BE SOLVED BY INVESTMENT INTO "ALTERNATIVES". Those will solve our use of coal nothing else.

[Vynjira]

The point is electric cars are powered by coal plants.. which displaces the fossil fuels to power cars in an inefficient way.

If we went nuclear electric cars become viable.. and thus makes us independent from fossil fuels.

Which is what people for solar/wind power seem to forget.. the transition to electric cars will vastly increase power needs.

So you need to research what your talking about..

[ancestralblue]

Stan Meyer made water as fuel work. It's pretty clear that he was killed by oil interests.

There are also engines that run on magnets, solar foil using nano technology and many new advances in wind power technology.

[Vynjira]

Wind and Solar are dreams.. their not base load power supplies.

Hydro is already built out.. its nice but limited.

Coal needs to go... Nuclear is tremendous base load.. and would sustain Humans for 150 billion years... long before then Earth will be gone because of the Sun.

Nuclear is remarkably clean, cheap and safe.

[ancestralblue]

Not at all true...on several counts. Solar energy is expanding into areas that include nanotechnology with a much greater capacity to produce power . And wind is highly effective for people who live in areas where there is just a little more space. I live in such an area, there are quite a few people who produce more than enough power for their needs. But I'm quite sure that those who want to sell the public on Nuclear will shoot just about anything down.

[ancestralblue]

Nuclear is NOT clean. Burying nuclear waste on Indian reservations demonstrates that they don't have any safe solution to dealing with it, save for foisting it on the people they least care about. And like all of those solutions, it's just a matter of time until the waste ends up creating a giant toxic mess.

[Vynjira]

Yea, because of environmentalists... Nuclear waste can and is recycled... France recycles their nuclear waste... because its 95% still fissionable which is why its still radioactive...

Meanwhile the actual waste(remaining after its recycled) itself is rather innocuous.

Environmentalists had a ban put on recycling this waste.. forcing it to be dumped while it still is 95% fissionable.

Even the current waste is safe the containers will not breach...

[ancestralblue]

You sound like you're in the industry and trying to get it all going again. And where there is profit driven motive, deception is the name of the game.

It's like big pharma, they will tell you how beneficial their products are and the risk is in the fine print and yet the risks are many and deadly. And, I hear that Europe is dumping their nuclear waste off the coast of Somalia and that the Somali "pirates" are people in small boats trying to prevent this as it's poisoning the coast.

[Vynjira]

Do all Greenpeace crazies believe in orgone blasters? or just you?

Sorry.. its just whenever anyone claims Somali Pirates are Eco-heroes I have to investigate their crazy level.

Stop getting your information from Greenpeace and conspiracy sites.

[ancestralblue]

Yeah...I put the vid on orgone to watch when I have more time. I tend to be open and investigative. I shut no door on information and I keep the blinders off.  Where people who call others crazies have shown that they always have an agenda. The name of the game is to discredit anything that doesn't foster your agenda. Just a sign of how the money system corrupts the thinking. YOU are an obviously paid rep for nuclear. In other words a mercenary.

[Vynjira]

Discredits? lol Who called who part of the industry? Who called who a mercenary? lol

Being open is one thing buying into pseudosciences is another.. your favorites are filled with pseudosciences.. and you have been citing big pharmaceuticals and nuclear conspiracies to defend your arguments..

I'm sorry, but its very clear that your arguing from an agenda.. and ignoring the scientific data...

Go ahead claim I'm a mercenary lol.

[ancestralblue]

YOU ARE A MERCINARY! Anybody who tries to sell the public on a powersource as dangerous and toxic as Nuclear is tied to a profit driven agenda. And as far as your science...scientists have admitted that up to 45% of them are paid to slant studies. It doesn't always behoove them to tell the truth. A look at Tyrone Hayes and the atrozine controversy shows that. Sorry to you too. We still remember Three Mile Island and Chernobyl. There are few who will buy your argument.

[Vynjira]

Three Mile Island was pretty much the worst thing that could happen... and it was a non-event. The highest dose anyone got was a years worth of the background radiation that you get for just being on Earth.

Yea and the scientists caught falsifying data to show global warming? James Hansen?

Yea the slanting is coming from eco-terror..

Thats why you ignore consensus.. consensus is not a science word.

[ancestralblue]

Mass murdering environmentalist? Wow! That's an interesting spin! Yeah...the "science" attendent to global warming is more about UN Agenda 21 and justifying control of the water supply then it is about environmentalism. It's about privatizing aquafirs and more on corporate profits. Which is what Nuclear power is all about...corporate profits. As far as slanting of information , people with profit driven agendas LIE. Those are the people who sell ice to Eskimos.

[Vynjira]

Environmentalist have killed over 30 million Africans alone because of their lobby to ban DDT.

Not to mention the deaths from starvation caused by Environmentalist lobbies against Golden Rice, and other foods that Greenpeace claimed were poisoned.

Corporations like GE? yea, they stand profit some trillions on Eco-technology that Al Gore is pushing for.. and they have been caught lying.

People who spread terror LIE.. to push their profit driven agenda..

[ancestralblue]

And you think that DDT is a good thing, huh?

Africans die because of drought, money system games and our endless pursuit of running the rest of the world in favor of banking systems. We have always gone where we don't belong.

GE, yeah, they used to build Nuclear facilities. Profit hunters go which ever way the wind blows to get their profit. The real terrorists are the ones who benefit from LYING. Like those who will tell any lie as long as they're paid for it.

[Vynjira]

Yes, DDT is a really good thing..

Its been fed to prisoners for years without any of them going ill.

Over 30 million Africans have died from Malaria ALONE.

The monetary problems are caused by the Malaria epidemic. They are being forced to use far more expensive and far less effective treatments.

They also have to spend more money for food because of Ethanol.

No the real terrorists are people that believe their more important than people in 3rd world countries.

[ancestralblue]

I'd love to know what kind of people feed such a thing to anybody regardless of whether they're prisoners or not.

But yeah, in the interest of experimentation they'll do anything to anyone. Just like the Nazis.

The monetary problems are caused by greed of western intervention and issues like AIDS. And as far as more expensiive treatments,its been noted that pharmaceutical companies often get up to a 35,000% markup on their medications. The pursuit of the dollar while climbing over bodies.

[Vynjira]

The prisoners volunteered.. DDT was used on our crops which people at without getting sick.. DDT being toxic is another environmentalist lie.

AIDS is not responsible for nearly as many deaths.. you can't clean your hands of those deaths.

You seem to think they only buy medication from big companies..

..and we do know what they did.. because it wasn't just a report they recorded the tests...

My primary interest is the lives that environmentalists destroys to spread their agenda.

[ancestralblue]

Your whole angle here is to distract and take the heat off of the truth about nuclear. Nuclear is over. Not coming back. You'll have to find another job.

[Vynjira]

Quick statistic ~90 people a year die from lightning strikes.. (US alone)

Less than 60 people have died in 58 years from nuclear reactors.. (worldwide)

Despite Greenpeace's efforts to force accidents in older plants. safety has doubled since 2005 despite it being 27 times safer than any other industry. (0.13 accidents per 200,000 work hours)

Fortunately you are wrong about everything and 3 new reactors are being built with 19 more waiting final approval.

[ancestralblue]

Quick statistic. It's all about money to all of you. You care not for people, the planet, the Spirit. The money system= human and environmental degradation and the promotion of the ones at the top of the pyramid while the rest of the money chasers climb over everyone else trying to get their piece of the action. They'll use any lie to get there, but, fortunately for all of us, their system is in a tailspin and it won't be coming back. Watch where your money making projects go.

[ancestralblue]

I had a family member who worked at the Shoreham Nuclear Power Station as it was being built. He swore up and down how clean it was, how safe it was and what an endless source of energy it would be. Whenever the question of disposal of spent fuel rods came up, he said, it's safe or they're working on it. When the plant was decomissioned and closed, he finally admitted that the spent fuel was a potential nightmare and that even hauling it created huge security issues.

[Vynjira]

Shoreham never did anything but low level testing because of protests..

Further regardless of what he thought France recycles 4,106 tons of nuclear waster per year. (6 reprocessing sites)

After its recycled its only .1% radioactive.

For another point.. US spent fuel containers can withstand direct missile fire.. without any danger of breaching. Further spent fuel can be handled its only dangerous over long periods of time.

So I take your anecdote with a grain of salt.

[Vynjira]

and your mass murdering environmentalist...

[nameofthepen]

vynjira - I was in your camp until you went into ad hominem mode. Don't you know it's always a dead-giveaway something's fishy about you?

So, like the lady said - You sound like you're in the industry and trying to get it all going again.

And, the truth about the Somali pirates has nothing to do with "Greenpeace and conspiracy sites".

That's just more attempted disinfo from you, Mr. Shillspeak.

[Vynjira]

Its not that hard to click your name and check your friend's list...

For that matter its not that hard to check my video's and my friends and so on before you start your debate tactics to discredit me..

I stand by my opinion that Orgone Blasters are crazy.. and there is a disturbed feeling I get reading the comments on AB's page.. very cult like..

Most of this discussion has been AB using incredible debating tactics to ignore facts...

[ancestralblue]

Your facts are slanted to support that which has been rejected by the people time and again. But money talks and it sure talks for you. I think that sacrificing morals for money is crazy and obviously you do it all of the time.

[nameofthepen]

LOL, Sherlock - er, I mean Vynjira. If I thought that your somehow "discovering that Cindy and I are friends" would make YOU any less of a shill, I would hardly have that list visible, now would I?

So, basically you have raised a strawman. FAIL!

[Vynjira]

You need to learn what a Straw man fallacy is..

For example..

When AB claims my primary interest is money to refute my arguments about nuclear power...

I can point out every fallacy you have made but its moot.. Your trying to win the debate using tactics instead of presenting data.

[nameofthepen]

No, Bynjira - there is no "win" when it comes to dealing with dark souls. I'm done here. Anyone who will be attracted to this video will easily see through you as AncestralBlue has.

My time is more pleasantly spent somewhere else, with nice people.

[Vynjira]

I'm sure most people won't read 6 pages back... but if they do I can only bet some people will note the arguments for what they are.

[Keeban3]

True, but it wasn't environmentalists that made the ban. Carter made the ban because he was afraid of other countries getting weapons grade plutonium. But since worldwide proliferation is occurring anyway, and other countries to refine their waste already, there is no point in this ban anymore.

[crazy7house]

Solar Power will come about, but I don't see it soon, maybe in the 2020's or 2030's.

[sydneydoc]

Interesting ... in the past 7 years there's been a 0.0003% decrease in atmospheric oxygen. With 21% oxygen, it's of no concern ... but interesting just the same.

[obeliskbreaker]

I have a couple of questions about the statistics you posted.

Firstly, why would they specifically call it "atmospheric oxygen"?

Think about it like this, they're taking a measurement of "atmospheric oxygen" and giving you a percentage of reduction, is that an overall reduction of oxygen supply, or is that percentage just relative to the current size of the atmosphere? In other words, the atmosphere has shrunk but the percentage of oxygen reative to the size of the atmosphere stays static.

[sydneydoc]

I don't get your point ... its oxygen in the atmosphere ...

The problem with many of such measurements, there's little history for comparison.

[sydneydoc]

Excellent video !

Great to see a wise old man talking sense.

[obeliskbreaker]

Yeah, morgan was the corporate slimeball and the company that bears his name still is. thomas edison was the guy that invented direct current and played fear tactics by gathering together groups of people and electrocuting animals from puppies to elephants to show the "dangers" of alternating current.

Alexander Graham Bell was a nice guy, he didn't fry no puppies.

[Justintinian88]

im sure we got that free energy, but i bet they think why not make some money instead of implementing that.

[vinnykster]

40 below in Fairbanks, Alaska for SEVEN straight days! Global Warming MY ASSS!! Gore you whore you are way off!!

[obeliskbreaker]

My response to you was about the "tin hat" comment. Many people would accuse us CO2 climate change deniers to be kooky, simply because they have only heard the propoganda and haven't looked into it themselves. Accusing me of being a "conspiracy theorist", (whatever that term means to you), for knowing something outside the general public view is no different than someone shaking their head at the idea that man-made global warming is a scam, when we know damn well that it is a scam.

[obeliskbreaker]

Um. I think you made a mistake, I'm sure the CO2 global warming theory is a hoax. Excess CO2 does pose a problem but not as immidiate as the main-stremers are saying, it's more of an oxygen depletion problem that can't be solved by taxing carbon. Pollution is bad but the emphasis is wrongly being placed on carbon. There should not be "beliefs" in science but sadly, we see people claiming to represent the scientific community who refuse to drop their garbage theories for one reason or another

[sydneydoc]

CO2 poses no problems whatsoever ... and there's certainly no "oxygen depletion" !

[obeliskbreaker]

Well, the lack of trees has contributed to a slower transfer from co2 to oxygen. We see this clearly as the majority of co2 absorbtion has changed from trees to algae and the resulting increased algae is harming ocean life.

Yes, our atmosphere is half the hieght it was at the beginning of civiliztion. It's gone from 6 miles high fown to 3.

Lack of oxygen will leave people more vulnerable to diseases they would otherwise be able to fend off.

check out "ten billion acres . ORG"

[sydneydoc]

More nonsense ... where's the evidence ?

[obeliskbreaker]

If I were to provide it for you, that would only serve to guide you in the direction of where I've found it. I'm not one of these people who has jumped on the man-made climate change propaganda bandwagon, I'm just repeating what I've discovered through what time I've spent researching the subject. Most CO2 is caused by animal life, the lack of trees causes an imbalance rather than a depletion, I guess I should have chosen my word more carefully.

Do your own research, or there is no value to it

[Vynjira]

We have more trees than we've had in centuries so where did you get your information? Further Forest growth areas produce more CO² than areas developed by Humans.

Even in the areas where deforestation is at its greatest.. their are other forms of vegetation being planted..

Algae harming ocean life is kinda ridiculous tho.. because even if it were true it couldn't be true.. Algae is OCEAN LIFE and its a food source for ocean life.

Oxygen would be more prevalent in a globally warm world.

[obeliskbreaker]

Where do you get YOUR information?

We certainly do NOT have more trees than in past centuries, who told you this?

When it comes to oxygen production, smaller vegitation taking up the same space as a tree and the space between them doesn't produce nearly as much oxygen as a single adult tree in the same area.

More CO2 in the air due to lack of trees causes algae to flourish, this blocks sunlight and lowers water temperature.

Any imbalance in nature causes reactions that take much time to correct.

[Vynjira]

We certainly do.. the logging industry itself has planted more trees than ever would have grown naturally. <-Short explanation

Its requires a really long explanation but suffice it to say Trees do what you claim Algae does.. It blocks sunlight from smaller vegetation while not producing as much oxygen.

I do love how you don't understand why Global Warming is suppose to be Doomsday. Otherwise you would not have talked about oceans getting colder.

[obeliskbreaker]

I am getting a headache trying to understand you.

"The logging industry"? Which logging industry are you talking about? In Canada and the U.S. they replant and do surveys to determine the impact on the area before cutting, but what about south america and africa? The clear cutting continues.

Secondly, The vast majority of trees have NOT been destroyed from logging, it's from clearing land for cities and man-made forest fires.

I'm afraid your american educational system has betrayed you again.

[Vynjira]

I'm afraid your information is inaccurate.

The trees planted are in far surplus of man-made clearing. Like I said the United States has more trees than its had in centuries. Their only growing more to meet the demands of the logging industry.

Clear cutting is different however I mentioned South America is cutting down trees and planting other forms of vegetation.

Humans have changed 1/3 of the forested regions of the Earth. However the forested regions are now much denser because of Humans.

[nameofthepen]

Vynjira - I was going "Huh??" on your comments.

Then I saw you shilling for the logging companies.

Then it all made sense. :D

[willyrobinson]

nonsense

[obeliskbreaker]

Free energy won't become a reality as long as there is a profit-oriented industry controlling the science and technology. Look how J.P. Morgan stopped funding Nikola Tesla's research when he found out it was capable of drawing unlimited energy from the Earth's magnetic field and could transmit that energy wirelessly anywhere on the planet. Then after Tesla died, those bastards took all of his research and made weapons from them. If any of you haven't heard of Tesla or J.P. Morgan, you should c

[Northgrant]

Wear your tin hat much?

[obeliskbreaker]

Do you have any counter-arguments to go along with your typical shrug-off answer? I have information you do not, so you think I'm some kind of conspiracy theorist cook? Come up with something intelligent to say in your comments or don't say anything. Grouping me into some kind of catagory in your mind serves only to satisfy your own ego and pointless goal of remaining ignorant. You should look into matters for yourself by doing your own research. Think carefully before you respond to this.

[Meanie83]

The man is totally right about global warming. I disagree with him on nuclear power though.

Reports have been supressed that show a correlation between cancer with children and nuclear power plants nearby. Also, the nuclear waste is currently being dumped partially in the third world. We can't continue with this. Wind, Sun, Geothermal, Tidal, Wave are al ready possible. Zero point, gravitational, fusion, and earth rotation energy are being worked on. Don't discount anything.

[AzoreanProud]

nuclear fusion!!?!

Levitation(maglev) wind mills?!!

Hemp for ethanol, paper, etc!!?!

Algae that produce hydrogen, bio diesel!!?

need more?1?

[hazely321]

not just that dude on this site you can find people who have full on free energey divices, only they wont be alowed to flurish will they, a great shame. but we live in hope.

[Meanie83]

We have to be carefull with bio-diesel at the moment. Currently the food prices are going up, because of great hypocrisy in the governments and corporations in the world. I do agree it's a fantastic potential. Henp is great plant for this use, and many many other uses.

CO2 mythe, Henp restriction, food supplement restriction and the war on drugs are all related. It's a design to fool the public and impose control and taxes from the government backed by corporations.

[AzoreanProud]

Agreed, but dude there is a lot more...

See this documentary:

"Zeitgeist: addendum"

It speaks about that.

[Meanie83]

Yeh, but if I put all my views here, id need 5 pages ;)

[AzoreanProud]

I empathize with you believe me.

[selti1]

Thanks so much John for expressing what I was thinking for sometime.

Science says the earths atmosphere consists of 78.08% Nitrogen, 20.95% Oxygen, 0.93% Argon, about 1% of Water Vapour and 0.04 % of Carbon dioxide.

How come something that is only 0.04% (CO2) of the atmosphere is more important for the green house effect than the remaining 99.96%? This does not sound like a conclusion from science; it sounds like a conclusion from mysticism.

[lee5537]

Remember global cooling of the 80's which was suppose to be none stopable. Then there was the Y2K bug,of the late 90's, that one was when the computers went from 1999 to 2000 everything was going to go black. They spent 100's of millions on that one,which everyone knows nothing happened. Now it's global warming,which it's anyones guess when that will end.And go one to something else..

[meggy8868]

Absolutely true about a cooling trend underway.

We feel it in ND. The window of opportunity to get the crops in and out is narrowing ever since 1992. This year we had a long cold winter. 18" of snow in April. Another snow storm in May. This morning I had to take the chill off the house. June 3rd slept under an electric blanket! Global Warming my foot!

The farmers are concerned about the short growing season!

[kenzboard]

Unfortunately the lag behind actual truth and blind faith takes many years.

On top of that...most laypeople could care less about atmospheric/climate sciences! And that's how it probably should be.

Unfortunately, a political agenda has derailed science....but the backlash has begun!

Equilibrium, truth, and sensibility in all due time...

[bidexhouse]

It was about time, the truth must be said, the global warming hoax.

Thanks Mr Coleman....

[tsenzei]

Unless of course it turns out that this is the hoax/political bid.

[iamagi]

Where is the 3rd video?

[TheJohnBirchSociety]

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