I don't get it, Jesus was crucified to atone our sins right? So, why do Christians have to go to the Church? I mean, shouldn't the Christians now already pure from sins?
Lets examine, Son=Father=Ghost=God Now, God=1, since Christianity is a monotheistic religion. However, there is the trinity, which is Son+Father+Ghost=1 And since Son=Father=Ghost Therefore, Son=Father=Ghost=0.333333333 Therefore, Jesus was 33.33% of the Trinity, otherwise the only thing you can say is Son=1 Father=1 Ghost=1 But, Son+Father+Ghost=1 So, 3=1 Christian maths
Is Jesus God? Lets See What The Bible Has To Say!!! Mathew 1:23 Emanuel (GOD With Us) 2 Peter 1:1 Our GOD and Savior. 1 Tim 3:16 GOD manifested in Flesh. 1 John 5:20 The True GOD. Isaiah 9:6 Mighty GOD. Luke 1:47 God and Savior Hebr 1:8 Thy throne o GOD. John 1:1 GOD. Mathew1:23GOD. Those are just Some Verses That Speak for themselves! JESUS IS GOD!!!
@celioabatti - but where does it say that MATHEW, PETER or JHON said all that. The bible does nt say its their words, its says ACCORDING TO MATHEW, JHON etc. These are not their words, therefore fabrications. One more question to u is that if u claim the Bible to be God's word than can the God's word have errors?
For Christians, deep in their hearts, they knew that Islam is a true religion but they cannot leave their drinking habit, they think they die if they tried fasting, they loathe the idea of praying 5 times a day, they cant live together unmarried, the men must go for circumcision..blah blah blah. so they reject Islam. Christianity is good because Jesus will bear their sins. Short cut. No "pain". So, they say, Christianity is love..........
Wow! How amazingly rude AND inaccurate. Is this what your faith teaches you?
As a Christian, I fast regularly, pray more than 5 times a day, have been happily married to my girlfriend of 15 years, am circumcised both physically and of the heart, AND I do not call Jesus a liar when he said repeatedly that he came to die in fulfillment of the numerous prophets. (Mark 8:31, 9:31, 10:33-34, John 10:11, 10:17-18, Psalm 22, Isaiah 53.)
And each day, I endure the pain of people such as yourself.
who do not know the Bible or anything about my faith and yet repeatedly assert themselves as such all the while accusing me of being a drunkard, liar, fornicator, etc.
But I take your persecution with pride becuase Just as Jesus stated, in John 15, "18If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first."
Why do U Love the cross and use it for beauty and accessories when UR God got So hurt and humiliated by his own creatures on it by UR enemies ?
Shouldn't U give the same treat 4 example the donkeys since UR god road on a donkey while travelling and felt comfortable on it,or the leather shoes that protected his feet while walking every where ?
Why Why do U treat the cross like this why not Bearn it or brake it to show UR hate and despise for what humans did for UR God ?
"Why do U Love the cross and use it for beauty and accessories when UR God got So hurt and humiliated by his own creatures on it by UR enemies?"
Let me answer you with God's word alone:
First, the prophets:
Isaiah 53:4 Surely he took up our infirmities and carried our sorrows, yet we considered him stricken by God, smitten by him, and afflicted. 5 But he was PIERCED FOR OUR TRANSGRESSIONS, he was CRUSHED FOR OUR INIQUITIES; the punishment that BROUGHT US PEACE WAS UPON HIM (cont.)
and BY HIS WOUNDS WE ARE HEALED. 6 We all, like sheep, have gone astray, each of us has turned to his own way; and the LORD has laid ON HIM the INIQUITY OF US ALL.
7 He was oppressed adn afflicted, yet he did not open his mouth; he was led like a lamb to th eslaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is silent, so he did not open his mouth.
8 By opression and judgement he was taken away. And who can speak of his descendants? For he was cut off from the land of the living; for (cont.)
"17The reason my Father loves me is that I lay down my life—only to take it up again. 18No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. " - John 10
Jesus makes clear that no one took his life from him. It was planned for a purpose and I will let Jesus tell you what that purpose was.
26 While they were eating, Jesus took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to his (Cont.)
disciples, saying, "Take and eat; this is my body." 27 Then he took the cup, gave thanks and offered it to them, saying, 'Drink from it, all of you. 28 Thi is MY BLOOD of the covenant, WHICH IS POURED OUT FOR MANY FOR THE FORGIVENESS OF SINS."
The holy law of God requires sacrifice for sin. God is unchanging. His law is unchanging and it will never pass away.
Jesus became the perfect sacrifice for sin and unless you accept that sacrifice you will perish in your sins.
The cross is the means by which all mankind was given the opportunity to be redeemed to God. It is a symbol of triumph.
Jesus took upon him that sin, was buried and conquered death in his resurrection and he did it all in complete fulfillment of teh law and the prophets.
THAT my friend, is why the cross is the most glorius and beautiful thing that has ever existed. For if it were not so, I would be lost to my sin and an eternity separate from God.
OOH i see so UR god was not the 1 that asked u 2 love and almost worship the cross .but the 1 how saw him like that mad U make the cross sign all day long as a sign of being a Christian !
can i ask U a Q: Y did Jesses peace be upon him came 2 the world? isn't it 4 the humans 2 stop worshiping idols and Humans other than the one almighty God? So that makes his Hardship all have went in vain cous U ended worshiping him instead of the 1 how loved U enough 2 send a messenger from UR same speeches so U can listen understand and believe in him easily..imagine if god sent us animals or angels as messengers how hard would it be on us ?
I think you mean Jesus and I've already told you why he came. In fact, had you any courtesy, and were you not just hell driven to spew your hate and venom towards me, you would have read entire sections of prophecy regarding Jesus' purpose.
Jesus came to die for the sins of all mankind, yours included.
Jesus himself accepted the worship of his discipels, jesus himself accept being addressed as Lord and GOD, Jesus himself was the fulfillment of the law alone and unless you
repent of your sins, call on his name, you will NOT be saved.
Jesus stated:
22Moreover, the Father judges no one, but has entrusted all judgment to the Son, 23that all may honor the Son just as they honor the Father. He who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father, who sent him.
Do you honor Jesus EVEN AS you honor ALLAH?
No. you do not. Then according to Jesus, you do not honor Allah at all.
what about the other prophets before Jesses they had miracles 2 and had Hardship with their people just like Jesses .
if Jesses is the God the all those prophets R Jesses himself coming 1 time after another .. and that make's Mohammed Jesses as well he also had merciless and also was band and had Hardship like other prophets !!!
and U did not answer my what about the donkey?? Y dont U worship it ?? he was such a big help!!
U know when I read UR quote" 7 He was oppressed adn afflicted, yet he did not open his mouth; he was led like a lamb to th eslaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is silent,so he did not open his mouth"
I was disgusted how in the name of god how is it possible that U with UR magnificence brain creation and Complex Psychological characteristics as a human how would U be satisfied by such a God?Dont U dare call him almighty coze from this quote of yours he is helpless than all of us
I would enjoy dialoging with you should you ever have an intrest in knowing or perhaps if your interest in knowing could ever supercede your open disgust towards me.
Scripture teaches:
19 When you follow the desires of your sinful nature, the results are very clear: sexual immorality, impurity, lustful pleasures, 20 idolatry, sorcery, hostility, quarreling, jealousy, outbursts of anger, selfish ambition, dissension, division, 21 envy, drunkenness, wild parties, and other sins like these.
22 But the Holy Spirit produces this kind of fruit in our lives: love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness, and self-control. There is no law against these things!
Examine your actions here and see which list you fall in.
until you can communicate with respect and common courtesy, I am done.
So Using Math 2 prove something 2 the human Brain we will say this
as God= Jesus
and as Jesus = Died
then God= Died .
this is simple Proof and Evidence math methods
listen sir I have no hate nether my book otherwise the Quran would just cast u away without any reasoning with U if I had any hate I would not be polite and take with U I'll gust bad mouth U laughed and go2 other videos so pleas don't wast time and answer my yesterday Questions.Enlighten me
@zomy2008 That's unmathematical! How could 3 gods be one. is 3=1????? it's only ONE God
Messiah is a prophet of God Just like Abraham and Mohammed PBUH or any other prophets of Allah SWT so to clearify Isa Binu Maryamma is a Human Being NOT GOD! he prayed to God He proved that there is only ONE god Laa illaha Ilallah! There is no god worthy of worship other than Allah swt! so you are in a state of Error yourself so Repent! there is no such thing as 3 gods in One!
BonjourNuit123. Next time, if there will be such a religion symposium and you come to know about it, please inform the churches, priests, pastors or even the pope to sit in as these are learned men of christianity and have them speak up about the bible well since you said that Deedat took advantage as most people dont know the bible or the Quran. Islam is a peaceful religion. We even greet people with "Peace be upon you". So how could you say we follow satan?
Deedat took advantage that most people don't know the Bible or the Quran
Muhammad claimed Jesus didn't die on the cross but another who looked like him died instead
and that is insane
O you people of the book to whom the scriptures have been given, believe in what WE have revealed,confirming and verifying what was possessed by you before we destroy your faces beyond recognition 4:50 do you think Muhammad comes from God?
Tell me is Satan one who cares for people or hates them as does Islam?
See the Dome of the Rock, it stands where it should not be, it stands as proof that Islam is not a religion of peace but a religion of war and invasion against all non Muslims
In Daniel's, God called the Dome of the Rock an abomination of desolation Daniels 12-11
The return of the Jews to Israel in 1948 fulfilled God's Promises thus proving the Jews remain God's chosen People and that the Bible is valid in God's Eyes and proving that only Islam is false
Deedat took advantage that most people do not know the Bible or the Quran
For the Muhammad claimed Jesus didn't die on the cross but another who looked like him died instead
O you people of the book to whom the scriptures have been given, believe in what WE have revealed,confirming and verifying what was possessed by you before we destroy your faces beyond recognition 4:50 do you think such a passage comes from God?
Tell me is Satan one who cares for people or hates them as does Islam?
Deedat loved to debate with people who did not know the Quran because the Quran lied about Jesus and downsized Jesus and warred against both Jews and Christians for Islam is a religion of war against all the non Muslims of the world
Deedat concealed that the Quran teaches Jesus didn't die on the cross but another who looked like him died instead and that is a Lie for the only way possible that Muhammad even heard about Jesus was because Jesus went to the cross, died and rose from the dead
what a different when i heard both speaker. one with the knowledge in the mater. the other is simply preaching with out pointing out the source of his mentioning. i don't think the person from Canada is not prepared for the debate. sorry this is my thought.
The only way that Muhammad even heard about Jesus was due to the fact that Jesus died on the cross but Muhammad claimed Jesus didn't die on the cross that another who looked like Jesus died instead but Mary was at the foot of the cross and Jesus spoke to her, and Muhammad was not at the foot of the cross
Christianity only came into existence After Jesus died on the cross and rose from the dead and not before
strike terror into the non believers, strike off their heads and strike off their finger tips sura 8:12 and strike off their heads until you make a great slaughter from among them sura 47:4
Heads off to the kafirs who are the non believers of Muhammad for he only served himself and used God to invent a religion of hatred and war
Muhammad said Jesus didn't die on the cross but another who looked like him died instead
Lying is part of being a Muslim, in fact there is even a word for lying it is called taqiyah which is lying for Islam
Too bad you hate to hear the truth because I hate to hear your lies
I write to protect those who do not know the Bible or the Quran to inform them that Islam is a man made religion of war against all non believers(of Muhammad)
who had said Jesus didn't die on the cross that another who looked like him died instead and that is a lie
u made several claims in ur reply & no way u can prove it. I say u lie about Islam coz I'm a Muslim & I know what Islam is. I'd never say u lie about ur religion, it is urs & I have nothing to do with it.
This is the tactic of desperation, to accuse ppl of lying coz u got no other way to support ur case :)
But u know what?
Keep trying to vilify Islam, no matter what u do, ppl r accepting Islam en masse, & there is nothing u can do against the truth :)
Here is a site that fights over the crucifiction which is how Christianity came into existence
We do not shove our beliefs upon you
and that is how religions should be
but Islam seeks to conquer the world to force the world to accept a man made religion of war using God for only Islam is against all non believers of Muhammad
You accuse me of acting desperately when I know Jesus is in our world and He is to return not Muhammad
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With 9000 terrorist attacks since 9/11, terror attacks committed by Muslims against all the world is force
I rarely heard Deedat speak of the merits of Islam for there are few but I always heard him lie in every video when God does not use liars to teach the truth
To explain my religion to you would be like throwing my pearls at swines that will only tramble on them, then turn to gorge me for that is how Muslims are
They don't want a debate they only want people to join Satan's sinking ship
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On the contrary, first you do explain and hope people will join until you are stronger or become the majority of any nation then you use brute force to slay those who rejected Islam
The peace in Islam is a mere word on your lips that mean nothing because the world is divided into Muslims and non Muslims and the quest of Muslims is to conquer the world for Islam, should that happen the world will revert backwards into pure ignorance and poverty for Islam punishes those who step out of line
It is easy to prove Islam is not from God for God is consistent in his compassion for all humankind
God said in the bible love your neighbour but Muhammad said wage war with the non believer as is your neighbour 9:123
Jesus said what you do onto others you do onto God but Muhammad said strike terror into the non believer,strike off their heads,strike off their finger tips
because they oppose God and his apostle
sura 8:12 when God is with every person on earth (John 14-17)
The end times began when the Jews returned to Israel in 1948 as God himself said would happen and it did happen against all odds
In response to ppl accepting Islam en mass as prophecied in the end times people will listen to the lies of satan and follow him, I can not stop them from joining the only religion on earth from Satan, which is Islam but I can inform them
Your belief or acceptance of what I said, is not required but it will help you one day just the same
The world is going down because of your racism and injustice. The ignorance is spreading "and we see a clear example in ur comments". It is clear. This dajjal is your ungodly rulers of state terrorism and mass murders to everyone who opposes them.
And the only way out of it is the truth.
Keep lying you zionist pig, God will show the truth at the end whether you like it or not.
Islam is hell for God does not ask a mass murderer and pedophile to guide men to God
See your own ignorance, I am not a Jew but God chose only the Jews to be prophets and that means the Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem stands as a testimony of Islamic invasion proving Islam is not a religion of peace but of war
Awareness is spreading for the Quran proves itself to be a religion of war and hatred
These are the last days as you cling to the lies of Satan and you don't realize it
Satan uses fear, terror, lies, deceptions, violence, briberies and hatred to enslaven 1.2 billion Muslims who believe with the totality of their beings that they serve God when they do not
You think hating the Jews and other non Muslims serves God but it only serves Satan
So when your people go to attack Israel for a third time, Islam will be utterly destroyed not by the Jews, not by the Americans but by God himself and that is absolute
Get a version dated before 9/11 because the versions after that date watered down the Quran so People in the West won't see how much hatred and violence Muslims are taught to have towards All Non Muslims world wide
After all there were 9000 terrorists attacks since 9/11 and the reason why is because war against non Muslims is prescribed to Muslims
thats what i mean, he is a god but at the same time he is not. aaaahhhhh, its hurting my brain...lol...i have tried to look at it with any open mind, and i still dont get nothing, i wonder if its me, or thats how everyone is?
every rational person would feel as you feel. our christian friends, use what i call a double standard, i have not yet had a conversation with a christian who would not use a double standard to explain their faith and disproove hinduism to me as of yet. and that is where the problem is, consistiency... every christian you speak to has the same holy ghost, and every one of them has a different understanding of this man god relationship.
wow you know alot about Christians and their believes. impressive, may Allah make you the means for Christians so that they can also converted to islam. sometimes i feel so sorry for them, because they try so hard in being good human being, sometime even more than muslims. they are good people but their believe of god is wrong. and i also dont want them to go to hell. i believe that its not there fault. some of them really want to learn about islam. but there is no one to teach them..sooo sad
@IsJehc bro they are no such innocent. Remember Sabira and Shatila mascre? even jews blame christians for killing women , children and animals in Bairut. Remember american war weapons used in Gaza in 2007?What is 911? is not christian govt of USA killed 3000 innocent christians on WTT? blaming muslim occupied Afghanistan and yet people were in daze it occupied Iraq...
wow because i accept it and i understand it that Jesus is God it doesnt make me rational? now you sound like dawkins. i wait for you to prove how God can not become man and i want from outside source as dawkins would
so jesus was crucified and killed, after they killed jesus, the God coming from jesus body and the roman army is scared to death? i dont understand why the bible had a revision about thousand times. if the bible is words of God,why it needs to repair? God is wrong?
yes ,the bible had a revision,,a little bit here.. a little bit there... the pope knew it.
and i see from this video the pastor doesn teen know exactly what was in bible..deedat exactly know most of the bible. how can the pastorage dont know bout bible?
and i have read deedat challenged pope john paul 2 (wikipedia about deedat) and the pope just want to talk face to face (not in live television),whyy...?? the pope scared that he cant explain the christianity concept of God?why?
God sent prophets all over the world. Ones we heard of and the ones we didn't ... but you know, chew on this for a while. why do you think the Jews needed so many prophets? If they were such nice God fearing people, the Chosen people in fact (which I do believe they were at one stage throughout time) Why would they need so many reminders and prophets to pull them back to righteousness?
The Christian doctrine is luciferian syncretism that usurps worship from God and places it on a created being. Jesus does not receive this worship, the deceiver is the recipient.
You worship the risen sun.
Christians are deceived: They worship satan and do not know it. Church heresy came long before Scripture corruption.
only jews could be prophets ? are u saying that god has no right to choose a prophet from any other races ? after all He is "GOD" He can do whatever he wants...
Indeed I am saying God chose only the Jews to be prophets and no one else in All the World! God told Abraham loud and clear that God chose not Abraham's first born Ishmael but Abraham's second son Isaac to carry as Everlasting the Covenant thus prophetic line Gen 17:18
That means only Jews could be prophets and no prophes were sent after the Messiah
You say God can do whatever he wanted yet he came into human form and people like you say no he couldn't do it but he did
He can do whatever he wants in terms of command. why should God want to Be Human ? that would make God's authority degrade. It is to stupid for God the Almighty would want to be one of his own creations. Lets say you've created a human model using clay, then you supplicate to God "Oh Lord make me like this clay model that i've created" would you want to do that ? that really sounds stupid to me. I would not do that, for all i know, i want to be the one commanding that clay model of course..
When you are taught lies about Jesus such as Jesus didn't die on the cross but another who looked like him died instead and you are commanded to obey only Muhammad who said exalt Islam above the other religions
Then you cannot accept the teachings of other religions
God created us to be able to experience His Presence
God is already with all people on earth
He came into humanform to teach us he is with us to guide us always for that ends sufferings and restores the world back to heaven
Christianity only came into existence after Jesus died on the cross and rose from the dead.
Jesus was sent to the cross because he claimed he was and is God.
Only when he rose from the dead,did people believe him and that is when Christianity came into existence and not a second before.
This event occured so that God could teach he is in all people on earth to guide them but only Christians for their faith were allowed to become aware of his loving presence which even today many do
He said I gave them eternal life and that only God can do John 10:18
He said no one comes to the Father except through me...because he is the Father...for he said to Philip, you have seen me, from now on you have seen the Father
He said before Abraham was born: I am John 8:58 and that is the original name God gave of himself to Moses
The Jews picked up stones to stone Jesus while saying you a mere man claim to be God for Jesus had said I and the Father are one
so the God are three peple? or three God? how can one people come from three merging people? if the God was three ,they can be fight each other,, i heard from the christian the John is the traitor, ,i dont understand.
You're God is so vague that he tries (according to you) to tell you that he is God in all those ways, and yet he never explicitly says (I am God). Good for you!
Christianity only came into existence after Jesus died on the cross and rose from the dead.
Jesus was sent to the cross only because he claimed he was and is God and not only was he rejected for that claim but he was hated. Only when he rose from the dead,did people believe him and that is when Christianity came into existence and not a second before.
Jesus preached monotheism:(And this is life eternal,that they might know Thee,the only true God,& Jesus Christ whom Thou has sent)John17:3(And the scribe said unto him,Well,Master,thou hast said the truth:for there is One God and there is none other but He)Mark12:34(But of that day and hour knoweth no man,no,not the angels of the heaven, but my Father only) Matthew24:36(I ascended unto my Father and your Father and to my God and your God)John20:16but u can't understand these biblical verses
Slave actually no Muslim can understand these biblical verses as they were taught the Bible was falsified,as they were taught Jesus didn't die on the cross and as they were taught Jesus was only a prophet when Jesus said in John 10:33 I gave them Eternal Life,Jesus taught we are all part of God and since there is none other besides,no one exists outside of God.
Jesus returned to BEing the FAther as He said to Philip you have seen me from now on you have seen the Father for Jesus is God
This verse contradicts 2 these( And this is life eternal, that they might know Thee, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom Thou has sent) John17:3(And the scribe said unto him, Well,Master,thou hast said the truth: for there is One God and there is none other but He)Mark12:34(But of that day and hour knoweth no man,no,not the angels of the heaven,but my Father only) Matthew24:36(I ascended unto my Father and your Father and to my God and your God)John20:16.God's word hasn't contrdictions.
cicakkobeng Muhammad was never in the Bible that Muhammad himself said was falsified
Is that not insane that on hand he invalidated the Bible by his claim then on the other hand he tried to say he was in the Bible which is a LIE, no prophet was to come after Jesus and if Muhammad was truly from God people would have known by his teachings and by his teachings wise people know he was false
So all his life Jesus (pbuh) were teaching something then after he rose from dead as you say he made to us surprise!? You cannot find this cross or word christianity in the whole bible, and Jesus (pbuh) never said he is God in the whole bible!
I do not need to find the cross in order to believe that Jesus died on the cross and in order to trust in God's love for humankind.
You were
taught Jesus didn't die on the cross was deceived therefore you perhaps want to touch the cross and to find Jesus'AB negative blood type to prove to you what we know it fact
So what the word christianity does not exist in the whole bible
Jesus did say He is God in the Bible and he proved it by dying on the cross and rising from the dead
bokybad God took on a humanbody and that body was killed just as our human bodies die but God rose from the dead to reveal he can not be killed for that is what the crucifiction and resurrection mean
Asking if you can kill God using a machine gun reveals your aggrogance
When you do not see God,nor hear God nor know God,then you are dead because such a God does not exist
God desires to be experienced so he went to the cross and rose from the dead to teach he is in all people to guide them
no!your wrong they thought he died on the cross but everything was similar to the miricle of jonah three days in the belly of the whale,so shall the son of man in the belly of the earth.Isa himself spoke of this his followers denied it.The story goes like this Isa declared to be a prophet but the jews denied him by calling him a bastard. he was put on the cross then he survived the ordeal. centuries passed when this story of isa reached the pagans, they misunderstood and edited few things.
Christianity only came into existence after Jesus died on the cross and rose from the dead.
Jesus was sent to the cross only because he claimed he was and is God and not only was he rejected for that claim but he was hated. Only when he rose from the dead,did people believe him and that is when Christianity came into existence and not a second before.
lovelypk why is that preaching to say why Jesus went to the Cross?
It is a fact.
You are no longer a Christian and I am not a Muslim,I don't have to prove anything to you because I am not here to convert you, I am here to defend my religion and I am saying exactly the truth as to why Jesus went to the cross because Jesus died on the cross but this Muslim site is saying Jesus didn't die on the cross and that is a lie
jesus is a muslim, he teach islam the religion of Allah to believe in one god the almighty.The power of god is given thru him cos we human cant see god.Christian as human being ignorant and arrogant will never be satisfied with the truth and fact that he is the prophet of allah and for ur info jesus is the prophet to the jews and how does this christian come about.
Christianity only came into existence after Jesus died on the cross and rose from the dead.
Jesus was sent to the cross only because he claimed he was and is God and not only was he rejected for that claim but he was hated. Only when he rose from the dead,did people believe him and that is when Christianity came into existence and not a second before.
what do you want them to say. when the bible, their only mean of defense is held against them and is proven (and im saying that becuz no body else contrudicted deedat) wrong. so to save themselves the ebaresment they preach and try to eat up time
Deedat? This deedat is a wonderful speaker. That's it. Any Christian who knows their Bible pretty well knows that he quotes them out of context, misreads verses, decieves and tells half truths. Only an ignorant crowd tends to believe him without looking into his words carefully.
Deedat is just a good speaker. But ironic that God struck him and shut his greatest gift - the gift of speaking and paralyzed this man who had no qualms of insulting the Lord Jesus Christ. He was warned many times.
No prophet was to come after Jesus because only Jesus is to return as God Rev.21:3-4Jesus said those coming after him will be false prophets like wolves in sheep's clothing and only Muh came,pretending to be pious but he had blood on his hands,
he was accused of being greedy for the spoils of war and he had many wives including a 9 year old child. The fact that he had a child for a wife is proof itself that he did not know God.
the funny thing is you prolly heard this from someone and you are posting it here.we dont take the accusation to Muhammed (asws) kindely but i will take a moment to tell you something im pretty sure u dont know.one of the prophets other wives is Hafsa. NOW,when he married her she was 17 thats cool.BUT, she had been married twice before,so what im i trying to tell you? WOMAN GOT MARRIED AT EARLY AGES BECUZ THEY MATURED EARLER. but ur prolly just trying to convince urself tha ur faith is the truth
Just curious, what kind of person is worthy of being worshiped in your opinion? A very powerful person who doesn't demonstrate a perfect good character? Would God be worthy of worship if He wasn't all good? Would God be worthy of worship if He didn't prove His perfect righteous character (which includes humility, being sinless, compassionate, just, forgiving and loving)?
Another problem In this comment. Lets say im an ignorant person who accepts that Jesus flesh was tempted and not his spirit. Isn't Jesus flesh part of him? Doesn't it mean that part of God has been tempted? Parts of god have desires? Therefore, parts of God have weaknesses? God and weaknesses? Is that worthy of worship?
Jesus is worthy of worship because He is the Creator of the Universe who humbled Himself (left His heavenly glory) and came to earth as a man to share our experiences, show compassion and demonstrate His Holy Character by laying down His life to save humanity from the penalty of sin. He is not only all powerful who created all things He is totally good in character.
Still not convinced? Ok can a dead body which made of human flesh commit a crime? Of course no. this is because it has no spirit. In contrast, can a living person commit a crime? Yes because it has a spirit/ ALIVE. Now if there is NO crime with out spirit, doesn't it mean its the spirit that is being tempted?
One can be powerful showing no weaknesses whatsoever but can be evil at the same time. Is this worthy of worship? Jesus is all powerful in heaven left His power and glory to show His goodness. This is worthy of worship. Even if you don't accept Jesus as God the concept of a Holy God coming to earth in humility as a man to show His love for His creation is a person worthy of being worshiped (in concept!at least to the one who doesn't accept Jesus as God).
if one is powerful and evil isnot worthy of worship, but the powerful who worths worship is most gracious most merciful. and you find it 114times in quran at the begining of evry surah, and more if you go throu the sura its self
Temptation is defined as the desire to have or do something that you know you should avoid.
The question is; can you tempt a living person? YES cause every living person have desires. Note here you're alive because of your spirit in your body/flesh.
Can you tempt a dead person? NO. Why? Cause its only a body/flesh with no spirit. DEAD MEAT don't have desires, therefore can't be tempted.
In conclusion, How can Jesus human flesh be tempted if a normal person flesh cant be tempted
the god worthy of worship is ALLPOWERFUL! NEVER HUMELIATED, NOT BEGOTTEN NEVER BEGETS, UNEQUAL, ALLNKOWING, ALLHEARING, THELOVING BY FORGIVING YOU JUST BY REPENTING AND PROMESSING TO NOT DO THE SIN AGAIN, THE PUNISHER of the evil work and devil doers, THE SUSTAINER, THE ONE WHO GIVES YOU A merciful mom and dad and nature!
some christians argue that "Christians never say that Jesus wasn't a man. His flesh is human but His spirit is Divine. What is flesh can be tempted so obviously the Devil was tempting the human side of Jesus. In the Spirit Jesus can never be tempted".
Jesus human FLESH was tempted and not Jesus spirit/soul.
Lets test this theory. Ist the flesh that's tempted or the spirit?
Good point faiz. God can never be tempted by the devil because God is perfect. one must understand that temptations are derived from the lack of control over desires. which means weaknesses. the formula should be God--> no Desires--> therefore, nothing to tempt---> therefore, no weaknesses --> Perfect.
It is only a weakness if you succumbed to temptation. Jesus is sinless despite being tempted in every way (Hebrews 4:15) which shows strength of spirit and character beyond imagination. Since Jesus had a flesh His spirit was tempted as the Spirit occupied the flesh and are in unity however when the Spirit departs the flesh the Spirit cannot be tempted. That is why temptation and sin can only happen when the spirit is in the flesh and yet Jesus is sinless.
I don't worship any statue of Jesus or Mary but all Muslims bow down towards the Ka'bah in Meccah. God is everwhere no need to bow down to the Ka'bah. Jesus was crucified because the Bible produces the names of the eyewitnesses who saw Jesus on the cross and elaborated in great detail the crucifixion. The Quran dismisses this in a couple of sentences. How credible is that? Can't the Quran elaborate in great detail namning witnesses what really happened if it was telling the Truth?
yes we bow down towards teh kaaba, but we dont pray to the Kaaba, look at my video that i created about prayer and you see that. we pray that way for uniformity so when someone goes to prayer we are in unity no matter where you go. as for elaboration, the quran is a book of signs, so there is no need for details just enough to show belief.
In the Bible bowing down to something is proof of worshiping that thing. The Quran a book of signs and no need for details? This means it doesn't rely on logic and commonsense which Muslims often claim. It expects blind faith which I refuse to give. I like reason and commonsense to an extent. Someone went into a cave and comes out saying "I have God's words just trust me". That is asking too much even from idiots.
you Pagan worship idol of Jesus n Maria.. he was not crucified, liar!! you priest n preacher because you get paid well by the churches. churches forces worker to pay money from their salary.. ah you are liar..
Christians never say that Jesus wasn't a man. His flesh is human but His spirit is Divine. What is flesh can be tempted so obviously the Devil was tempting the human side of Jesus. In the Spirit Jesus can never be tempted.
The soul is inspired by the Spirit. The Human biological body is tempted by the devil because it is weak and requires material satisfaction. Every Human has a soul which can allow the Sprit to enter. However some people destroy them selves and as a result they inevitably block out the entrance to the soul.
"but we have one (Jesus) who has been tempted in every way, just as we are-yet was without sin" Hebrews 4:15. Jesus is the only person without sin making Him Holy (sinless) and Divine who is God! Nobody else shares this Divinity with Jesus. There is no partners to God (Jesus) and He is One. You only have the Spirit of God if you accept Jesus as Lord and Saviour when your sins have been cleansed by the blood of Jesus. What is Holy (the Spirit) cannot dwell in the unholy (sinners).
thats correct nailakbar.temptation is defined as the desire to have or do something that you know you should avoid. being tempted means having a desire which leads to weaknesses of (lack of control). clearly thats not god's character
This Bishop is quite a good speaker. You almost get tricked into believing that what he says is genuine...that's until he start speaking about talking about Jesus being God.
In James 1:13 we are told "13When tempted, no one should say, "God is tempting me." For God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does he tempt anyone"
Then in In Luke 4:1-2 Jesus is tempted by the devil for 40 days: "Jesus, full of the Holy Spirit, returned from the Jordan and was led by the Spirit in the desert, 2where for forty days he was tempted by the devil."
brother yes, same religion of adam and noah and abrham moses , yahya(john) whom the jews killed, like many messengers they killed, point is we need the old languages of this word islam, they just love english and thats all around teh world, language can be different but islam is the meaning of the messengers, pbu all of them salam ali kum
heeeeelooooo lmao ur lost...
Afghanistang 9 months ago
This preacher speaks some truth. It's unfortunate he believes Jesus is God though.
xChillDude 1 year ago
Lol...
Son of god is god?
So... god is hes own son?
1person - Jesus (esha may peace be upon him)
1person - Holy ghost (holy spirit)
1person - God (The almighty)
-This means there are 3persons but you people say 1??...
A person has hes own soul, mind...
God wont pray to hisself.. like jesus did.
To much contdraction to belief in book open your eyes!
Lizzio1980 1 year ago
"for that punishment to be removed, someone has to satisfy the king of justice "
So someone = Jesus? But I thought Jesus is God, NOT someone since Jesus = God = Holy Ghost (like @PlancksTime said) No wonder @IsJehc also confused.
So God (Jesus) sacrifice himself to satisfy himself? HA???
cashflowtips 1 year ago
I don't get it, Jesus was crucified to atone our sins right? So, why do Christians have to go to the Church? I mean, shouldn't the Christians now already pure from sins?
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celioabatti 1 year ago
@celioabatti - but where does it say that MATHEW, PETER or JHON said all that. The bible does nt say its their words, its says ACCORDING TO MATHEW, JHON etc. These are not their words, therefore fabrications. One more question to u is that if u claim the Bible to be God's word than can the God's word have errors?
MuslimKnight91 1 year ago
For Christians, deep in their hearts, they knew that Islam is a true religion but they cannot leave their drinking habit, they think they die if they tried fasting, they loathe the idea of praying 5 times a day, they cant live together unmarried, the men must go for circumcision..blah blah blah. so they reject Islam. Christianity is good because Jesus will bear their sins. Short cut. No "pain". So, they say, Christianity is love..........
MrFunkrepublik 2 years ago
Wow! How amazingly rude AND inaccurate. Is this what your faith teaches you?
As a Christian, I fast regularly, pray more than 5 times a day, have been happily married to my girlfriend of 15 years, am circumcised both physically and of the heart, AND I do not call Jesus a liar when he said repeatedly that he came to die in fulfillment of the numerous prophets. (Mark 8:31, 9:31, 10:33-34, John 10:11, 10:17-18, Psalm 22, Isaiah 53.)
And each day, I endure the pain of people such as yourself.
jorsak 2 years ago
who do not know the Bible or anything about my faith and yet repeatedly assert themselves as such all the while accusing me of being a drunkard, liar, fornicator, etc.
But I take your persecution with pride becuase Just as Jesus stated, in John 15, "18If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first."
Salaam,
Joe
jorsak 2 years ago
Why do U Love the cross and use it for beauty and accessories when UR God got So hurt and humiliated by his own creatures on it by UR enemies ?
Shouldn't U give the same treat 4 example the donkeys since UR god road on a donkey while travelling and felt comfortable on it,or the leather shoes that protected his feet while walking every where ?
Why Why do U treat the cross like this why not Bearn it or brake it to show UR hate and despise for what humans did for UR God ?
zomy2008 2 years ago
"Why do U Love the cross and use it for beauty and accessories when UR God got So hurt and humiliated by his own creatures on it by UR enemies?"
Let me answer you with God's word alone:
First, the prophets:
Isaiah 53:4 Surely he took up our infirmities and carried our sorrows, yet we considered him stricken by God, smitten by him, and afflicted. 5 But he was PIERCED FOR OUR TRANSGRESSIONS, he was CRUSHED FOR OUR INIQUITIES; the punishment that BROUGHT US PEACE WAS UPON HIM (cont.)
jorsak 2 years ago
and BY HIS WOUNDS WE ARE HEALED. 6 We all, like sheep, have gone astray, each of us has turned to his own way; and the LORD has laid ON HIM the INIQUITY OF US ALL.
7 He was oppressed adn afflicted, yet he did not open his mouth; he was led like a lamb to th eslaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is silent, so he did not open his mouth.
8 By opression and judgement he was taken away. And who can speak of his descendants? For he was cut off from the land of the living; for (cont.)
jorsak 2 years ago
THE TRANSGRESSION OF MY PEOPLE HE WAS STRICKEN.
9 He was assigned a grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death, though he had done no violence, nor was any deceit in his mouth.
10. YET IT WAS THE LORD'S WILL TO CRUSH HIM AND CAUSE HIM TO SUFFER, and though the LORD MAKES HIS LIFE A GUILT OFFERING...
THe prophets tell you why. By the LORD's command, the Messiah became a guilt offering and was "pierced through" for "the iniquity of us all."
And I will let Jesus (Cont.)
jorsak 2 years ago
himself answer you.
"17The reason my Father loves me is that I lay down my life—only to take it up again. 18No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. " - John 10
Jesus makes clear that no one took his life from him. It was planned for a purpose and I will let Jesus tell you what that purpose was.
26 While they were eating, Jesus took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to his (Cont.)
jorsak 2 years ago
disciples, saying, "Take and eat; this is my body." 27 Then he took the cup, gave thanks and offered it to them, saying, 'Drink from it, all of you. 28 Thi is MY BLOOD of the covenant, WHICH IS POURED OUT FOR MANY FOR THE FORGIVENESS OF SINS."
The holy law of God requires sacrifice for sin. God is unchanging. His law is unchanging and it will never pass away.
Jesus became the perfect sacrifice for sin and unless you accept that sacrifice you will perish in your sins.
(Cont.)
jorsak 2 years ago
The cross is the means by which all mankind was given the opportunity to be redeemed to God. It is a symbol of triumph.
Jesus took upon him that sin, was buried and conquered death in his resurrection and he did it all in complete fulfillment of teh law and the prophets.
THAT my friend, is why the cross is the most glorius and beautiful thing that has ever existed. For if it were not so, I would be lost to my sin and an eternity separate from God.
Salaam,
Joe
jorsak 2 years ago
OOH i see so UR god was not the 1 that asked u 2 love and almost worship the cross .but the 1 how saw him like that mad U make the cross sign all day long as a sign of being a Christian !
I'm not done yet..
zomy2008 2 years ago
Doesn't merit response.
jorsak 2 years ago
can i ask U a Q: Y did Jesses peace be upon him came 2 the world? isn't it 4 the humans 2 stop worshiping idols and Humans other than the one almighty God? So that makes his Hardship all have went in vain cous U ended worshiping him instead of the 1 how loved U enough 2 send a messenger from UR same speeches so U can listen understand and believe in him easily..imagine if god sent us animals or angels as messengers how hard would it be on us ?
I'm not done yet...
zomy2008 2 years ago
I think you mean Jesus and I've already told you why he came. In fact, had you any courtesy, and were you not just hell driven to spew your hate and venom towards me, you would have read entire sections of prophecy regarding Jesus' purpose.
Jesus came to die for the sins of all mankind, yours included.
Jesus himself accepted the worship of his discipels, jesus himself accept being addressed as Lord and GOD, Jesus himself was the fulfillment of the law alone and unless you
jorsak 2 years ago
repent of your sins, call on his name, you will NOT be saved.
Jesus stated:
22Moreover, the Father judges no one, but has entrusted all judgment to the Son, 23that all may honor the Son just as they honor the Father. He who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father, who sent him.
Do you honor Jesus EVEN AS you honor ALLAH?
No. you do not. Then according to Jesus, you do not honor Allah at all.
Salaam,
Joe
jorsak 2 years ago
what about the other prophets before Jesses they had miracles 2 and had Hardship with their people just like Jesses .
if Jesses is the God the all those prophets R Jesses himself coming 1 time after another .. and that make's Mohammed Jesses as well he also had merciless and also was band and had Hardship like other prophets !!!
and U did not answer my what about the donkey?? Y dont U worship it ?? he was such a big help!!
I'm not done yet I hate the "the character count"
zomy2008 2 years ago
U know when I read UR quote" 7 He was oppressed adn afflicted, yet he did not open his mouth; he was led like a lamb to th eslaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is silent,so he did not open his mouth"
I was disgusted how in the name of god how is it possible that U with UR magnificence brain creation and Complex Psychological characteristics as a human how would U be satisfied by such a God?Dont U dare call him almighty coze from this quote of yours he is helpless than all of us
zomy2008 2 years ago
No. It is in YOUR understanding of Christianity that it is my God who died on the cross.
No Christian says this.
Jesus was fully human as much as he was fully God. This is also plainly stated in scripture. (Philippians 2:5-8)
God never died on the cross. God is incapable of dying. Jesus, in his humanity, died on the cross.
But you will never see this until you lay down your hate and your need to justify your faith by belittling others. You will never see past your hate.
jorsak 2 years ago
I would enjoy dialoging with you should you ever have an intrest in knowing or perhaps if your interest in knowing could ever supercede your open disgust towards me.
Scripture teaches:
19 When you follow the desires of your sinful nature, the results are very clear: sexual immorality, impurity, lustful pleasures, 20 idolatry, sorcery, hostility, quarreling, jealousy, outbursts of anger, selfish ambition, dissension, division, 21 envy, drunkenness, wild parties, and other sins like these.
jorsak 2 years ago
22 But the Holy Spirit produces this kind of fruit in our lives: love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness, and self-control. There is no law against these things!
Examine your actions here and see which list you fall in.
until you can communicate with respect and common courtesy, I am done.
Salaam,
Joe
jorsak 2 years ago
I'm Sorry did I miss understand U?
So Using Math 2 prove something 2 the human Brain we will say this
as God= Jesus
and as Jesus = Died
then God= Died .
this is simple Proof and Evidence math methods
listen sir I have no hate nether my book otherwise the Quran would just cast u away without any reasoning with U if I had any hate I would not be polite and take with U I'll gust bad mouth U laughed and go2 other videos so pleas don't wast time and answer my yesterday Questions.Enlighten me
zomy2008 2 years ago
You are using an incorrect formulation as it does not represent accurately who / what The messiah is.
Messiah = Fully Man and Fully God.
God = A
Man = B
Messiah = AB (Please read Philippians 2:5-8 for this plainly stated)
B Died. A is unaffected.
Simple proof and evidence.
jorsak 2 years ago
U have a mathematical ERROR
Messiah = Fully Man and Fully God
that makes the last statment
Messiah = A and B not Messiah = AB
her U have 2 Gods not 1
no mater how U tray the miend reject UR equation
3 Gods= 1 God !!!
zomy2008 2 years ago
I don't know where you took math but when AB is the proper representation.
1 God three persons. 1 Marriage 2 spouse.
You can not like it all you want but you cannot misrepresent it.
Salaam,
Joe
jorsak 2 years ago
@zomy2008 That's unmathematical! How could 3 gods be one. is 3=1????? it's only ONE God
Messiah is a prophet of God Just like Abraham and Mohammed PBUH or any other prophets of Allah SWT so to clearify Isa Binu Maryamma is a Human Being NOT GOD! he prayed to God He proved that there is only ONE god Laa illaha Ilallah! There is no god worthy of worship other than Allah swt! so you are in a state of Error yourself so Repent! there is no such thing as 3 gods in One!
Only One God (Allah swt)
buroali 6 months ago
@buroali ?!!!!!!! dear I'm Muslim U missed the !!!! I aded at the end of my comment ;)
zomy2008 5 months ago
@zomy2008 sorry my dear Muslim sister/brother i miss comment it.
buroali 5 months ago
BonjourNuit123. Next time, if there will be such a religion symposium and you come to know about it, please inform the churches, priests, pastors or even the pope to sit in as these are learned men of christianity and have them speak up about the bible well since you said that Deedat took advantage as most people dont know the bible or the Quran. Islam is a peaceful religion. We even greet people with "Peace be upon you". So how could you say we follow satan?
MrFunkrepublik 2 years ago
I like how the Bishop keeps saying Islum. Not making fun of him it just sounded funny. :P
09Discovery 2 years ago
Deedat took advantage that most people don't know the Bible or the Quran
Muhammad claimed Jesus didn't die on the cross but another who looked like him died instead
and that is insane
O you people of the book to whom the scriptures have been given, believe in what WE have revealed,confirming and verifying what was possessed by you before we destroy your faces beyond recognition 4:50 do you think Muhammad comes from God?
Tell me is Satan one who cares for people or hates them as does Islam?
BonjourNuit123 2 years ago
Besm Ellah El Rahman El Raheem
1st - stop repeating yourself
2nd - go read your corrupt bible
3rd - get your facts straight
4th - stop insulting God's final revelation: The Qur'an
5th - Real murderers are Christians like ADOLF HITLER, not Muhamad
6th - Qur'an is a Religion of love and peace
7th - The Qur'an is PERFECT, while
8th - The Bible has countless errors, verses of hate, PORN, racism, terrorism, contradictions, and numerous scientific errors.
Now, go learn about the TRUTH.
BeholderGuard 2 years ago 13
Islam is a man made religion of war using God to oppress, invade, deceived the world
270 Million People were slaughtered by Muslims since the beginning of Islam
God was never desperate to chose Muhammad who became a Mass murderer who was accused of being greedy for the spoils of war in which Muhammad invented
Islam a religion of war against all non Muslims
Islam has made Muhammad equal to God and Muslims obey Muhammad who served only Satan
BonjourNuit123 2 years ago
See the Dome of the Rock, it stands where it should not be, it stands as proof that Islam is not a religion of peace but a religion of war and invasion against all non Muslims
In Daniel's, God called the Dome of the Rock an abomination of desolation Daniels 12-11
The return of the Jews to Israel in 1948 fulfilled God's Promises thus proving the Jews remain God's chosen People and that the Bible is valid in God's Eyes and proving that only Islam is false
BonjourNuit123 2 years ago
Deedat took advantage that most people do not know the Bible or the Quran
For the Muhammad claimed Jesus didn't die on the cross but another who looked like him died instead
O you people of the book to whom the scriptures have been given, believe in what WE have revealed,confirming and verifying what was possessed by you before we destroy your faces beyond recognition 4:50 do you think such a passage comes from God?
Tell me is Satan one who cares for people or hates them as does Islam?
BonjourNuit123 2 years ago
hahahahaahahahaha your still here
"BonjourNuit123" YOU ARE A LIAR AND A HATER
everything you say about islam is false.
you tell people how you hate islam yet you comment constantly about it. ALL YOU SAY ARE LIES AND IM NOT LISTENING/READING WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY.
ISLAM = PEACE, UNITY, BROTHERHOOD, TRUTH, LOVE, LOGIC.
PEACE TO ALL
MoShow3000 2 years ago
Deedat loved to debate with people who did not know the Quran because the Quran lied about Jesus and downsized Jesus and warred against both Jews and Christians for Islam is a religion of war against all the non Muslims of the world
Deedat concealed that the Quran teaches Jesus didn't die on the cross but another who looked like him died instead and that is a Lie for the only way possible that Muhammad even heard about Jesus was because Jesus went to the cross, died and rose from the dead
BonjourNuit37 2 years ago
what a different when i heard both speaker. one with the knowledge in the mater. the other is simply preaching with out pointing out the source of his mentioning. i don't think the person from Canada is not prepared for the debate. sorry this is my thought.
peace.
tewfiksherif 2 years ago
The only way that Muhammad even heard about Jesus was due to the fact that Jesus died on the cross but Muhammad claimed Jesus didn't die on the cross that another who looked like Jesus died instead but Mary was at the foot of the cross and Jesus spoke to her, and Muhammad was not at the foot of the cross
Christianity only came into existence After Jesus died on the cross and rose from the dead and not before
BonjourNuit37 2 years ago
....and Marry came to BonjourNuit37 and Said " hey BonjourNuit37, that how the story goes by..."
Hat's off to Christian Pagans!
LMAO!
sahabji 2 years ago
Actually the Quran says heads off to non Muslims
strike terror into the non believers, strike off their heads and strike off their finger tips sura 8:12 and strike off their heads until you make a great slaughter from among them sura 47:4
Heads off to the kafirs who are the non believers of Muhammad for he only served himself and used God to invent a religion of hatred and war
Muhammad said Jesus didn't die on the cross but another who looked like him died instead
How insane is that
BonjourNuit37 2 years ago
hey BonjourNuit37
Stop distorting the verses of Quran, taking half and incomplete verses to serve your filthy purpose.
No one can fall into those lies anymore, all your points have been thoroughly exposed.
Unless you're fishing for those who know nothing about Islam to fool them with your lies of course :)
FireFlyWW 2 years ago
I don't lie because I am not a Muslim
Lying is part of being a Muslim, in fact there is even a word for lying it is called taqiyah which is lying for Islam
Too bad you hate to hear the truth because I hate to hear your lies
I write to protect those who do not know the Bible or the Quran to inform them that Islam is a man made religion of war against all non believers(of Muhammad)
who had said Jesus didn't die on the cross that another who looked like him died instead and that is a lie
BonjourNuit37 2 years ago
You know ur a very funny little hater :)
u made several claims in ur reply & no way u can prove it. I say u lie about Islam coz I'm a Muslim & I know what Islam is. I'd never say u lie about ur religion, it is urs & I have nothing to do with it.
This is the tactic of desperation, to accuse ppl of lying coz u got no other way to support ur case :)
But u know what?
Keep trying to vilify Islam, no matter what u do, ppl r accepting Islam en masse, & there is nothing u can do against the truth :)
FireFlyWW 2 years ago 2
You lie to yourself
I am not a Muslim I don't have to lie
Here is a site that fights over the crucifiction which is how Christianity came into existence
We do not shove our beliefs upon you
and that is how religions should be
but Islam seeks to conquer the world to force the world to accept a man made religion of war using God for only Islam is against all non believers of Muhammad
You accuse me of acting desperately when I know Jesus is in our world and He is to return not Muhammad
BonjourNuit37 2 years ago
No Muslim would force others to accept his belief, we only explain it to ppl. and whoever likes it, takes it.
We don't go and accuse others with lies and deception.
& Yes, you're not trying to explain your religion, you're only dedicating ur life to make others look ugly such as yourself :)
Good choice!! I wanna see you keep trying!! :)
Keep wasting ur time in vain.
The truth ill prevail whether you like it or not.
FireFlyWW 2 years ago 6
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With 9000 terrorist attacks since 9/11, terror attacks committed by Muslims against all the world is force
I rarely heard Deedat speak of the merits of Islam for there are few but I always heard him lie in every video when God does not use liars to teach the truth
To explain my religion to you would be like throwing my pearls at swines that will only tramble on them, then turn to gorge me for that is how Muslims are
They don't want a debate they only want people to join Satan's sinking ship
BonjourNuit37 2 years ago
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On the contrary, first you do explain and hope people will join until you are stronger or become the majority of any nation then you use brute force to slay those who rejected Islam
The peace in Islam is a mere word on your lips that mean nothing because the world is divided into Muslims and non Muslims and the quest of Muslims is to conquer the world for Islam, should that happen the world will revert backwards into pure ignorance and poverty for Islam punishes those who step out of line
BonjourNuit37 2 years ago
It is easy to prove Islam is not from God for God is consistent in his compassion for all humankind
God said in the bible love your neighbour but Muhammad said wage war with the non believer as is your neighbour 9:123
Jesus said what you do onto others you do onto God but Muhammad said strike terror into the non believer,strike off their heads,strike off their finger tips
because they oppose God and his apostle
sura 8:12 when God is with every person on earth (John 14-17)
BonjourNuit37 2 years ago
you keep quoting john
NOT ONCE CAN YOU QUOTE JESUS WHERE HE SAYS I AM GOD
MoShow3000 2 years ago
Proving Jesus is God is that the issue here?
When Muslims can't see the insanity of Muhammad saying Jesus didn't die on the cross but another who looked like him died instead and
When Muslims were told to wage war against Jews and Christians for over 1300 years, do you really think you seek proof?
Even so it is easy to prove Jesus said he is God when he said he gave us eternal life
and when he said on the day you learn of the Holy Spirit you will know you are in me and I am in you
BonjourNuit123 2 years ago
by the way an email from you i just delete without reading. email me all you want. i wont bother with scum like you.
your a hater and a liar snd i dont reply to whit like you
PPL ON YOU!!!!!!
STAY AWAY FROM
"BonjourNuit123"
MoShow3000 2 years ago
Muslims hate non Muslims for Muslims have slaughtered over 270 million non Muslims
I already know the Quran teaches you to hate all Non Muslims
SO if you don't like to hear the truth then don't bother me
You are too brainwashed to be reasoned with, you believe only the mass murderer and paedophile Muhammad who was never a prophet of God
Do you think God was so short of good people that he had to take a man greedy for the spoils of war and female slaves?
You will learn the hard way
BonjourNuit123 2 years ago
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hahahahaahahahaha your still here
"BonjourNuit123" YOU ARE A LIAR AND A HATER
everything you say about islam is false.
you tell people how you hate islam yet you comment constantly about it. ALL YOU SAY ARE LIES AND IM NOT LISTENING/READING WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY.
ISLAM = PEACE, UNITY, BROTHERHOOD, TRUTH, LOVE, LOGIC.
PEACE TO ALL
MoShow3000 2 years ago
The end times began when the Jews returned to Israel in 1948 as God himself said would happen and it did happen against all odds
In response to ppl accepting Islam en mass as prophecied in the end times people will listen to the lies of satan and follow him, I can not stop them from joining the only religion on earth from Satan, which is Islam but I can inform them
Your belief or acceptance of what I said, is not required but it will help you one day just the same
BonjourNuit37 2 years ago
Boil boil you zionist pig :)
The world is going down because of your racism and injustice. The ignorance is spreading "and we see a clear example in ur comments". It is clear. This dajjal is your ungodly rulers of state terrorism and mass murders to everyone who opposes them.
And the only way out of it is the truth.
Keep lying you zionist pig, God will show the truth at the end whether you like it or not.
Truth will prevail :)
FireFlyWW 2 years ago
Islam is hell for God does not ask a mass murderer and pedophile to guide men to God
See your own ignorance, I am not a Jew but God chose only the Jews to be prophets and that means the Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem stands as a testimony of Islamic invasion proving Islam is not a religion of peace but of war
Awareness is spreading for the Quran proves itself to be a religion of war and hatred
These are the last days as you cling to the lies of Satan and you don't realize it
So be it
BonjourNuit37 2 years ago
more lies more lies you filthy zionist parrot :)
keep on doing that, you only give us strength and proof :)
FireFlyWW 2 years ago 2
Throwing rocks at a rock does not destroy Satan
Satan uses fear, terror, lies, deceptions, violence, briberies and hatred to enslaven 1.2 billion Muslims who believe with the totality of their beings that they serve God when they do not
You think hating the Jews and other non Muslims serves God but it only serves Satan
So when your people go to attack Israel for a third time, Islam will be utterly destroyed not by the Jews, not by the Americans but by God himself and that is absolute
BonjourNuit37 2 years ago
its over 1.5 billion now
woooo hooooooooooo
the truth shall overcome falsehood
MoShow3000 2 years ago
You mean there are over 1.5 billion Muslims who are in Satan's hands?
You think deception, hatred and violence against all non Muslims is the truth?
Indeed the truth shall overcome falsehoods for God is the truth and God himself will destroy Islam which is falsehood
BonjourNuit123 2 years ago
oh its you again "BonjourNuit123"
anything you say "BonjourNuit123" i just laugh at
it is clear you spread hate and lies. your a Zionist pig and your comments and profile prove this.
so go away and have a nice day.
MoShow3000 2 years ago
If you just laugh at what I write, then why bother writing me?
Why bother telling people not to read what I wrote?
Are you afraid telling innocent unsuspecting people the truth that Islam desires to conquer them will do you harm?
Islam already promises you hell but
Non Muslims should not be made to suffer hell just because of your failure to question your own religion that has enslavened you to Satan
BonjourNuit123 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
hahahahaahahahaha your still here
"BonjourNuit123" YOU ARE A LIAR AND A HATER
everything you say about islam is false.
you tell people how you hate islam yet you comment constantly about it. ALL YOU SAY ARE LIES AND IM NOT LISTENING/READING WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY.
ISLAM = PEACE, UNITY, BROTHERHOOD, TRUTH, LOVE, LOGIC.
PEACE TO ALL
MoShow3000 2 years ago
ameen bro
MoShow3000 2 years ago
wow your full of rubbish
people dont listen to "bonjourNuit37"
hes a liar and all he does is spread hate not only on this channel but on other videos relating to islam and christianity.
he is a big time hater.
inshallah he will wake up one day and stop being so ignorrant
MoShow3000 2 years ago
I am not a Muslim so I don't have to lie
You accuse me lying and of spreading hate
All anyone has to do is read the Quran
Get a version dated before 9/11 because the versions after that date watered down the Quran so People in the West won't see how much hatred and violence Muslims are taught to have towards All Non Muslims world wide
After all there were 9000 terrorists attacks since 9/11 and the reason why is because war against non Muslims is prescribed to Muslims
BonjourNuit123 2 years ago
why does not Christianity make sense to me. believe me i have tried to make sense of it.
IsJehc 2 years ago
that would be where a man is god, and god is a man but god is not a man and a man is not god.
naliakbar 2 years ago 2
thats what i mean, he is a god but at the same time he is not. aaaahhhhh, its hurting my brain...lol...i have tried to look at it with any open mind, and i still dont get nothing, i wonder if its me, or thats how everyone is?
IsJehc 2 years ago
every rational person would feel as you feel. our christian friends, use what i call a double standard, i have not yet had a conversation with a christian who would not use a double standard to explain their faith and disproove hinduism to me as of yet. and that is where the problem is, consistiency... every christian you speak to has the same holy ghost, and every one of them has a different understanding of this man god relationship.
i dont think you can think rational about this
naliakbar 2 years ago
wow you know alot about Christians and their believes. impressive, may Allah make you the means for Christians so that they can also converted to islam. sometimes i feel so sorry for them, because they try so hard in being good human being, sometime even more than muslims. they are good people but their believe of god is wrong. and i also dont want them to go to hell. i believe that its not there fault. some of them really want to learn about islam. but there is no one to teach them..sooo sad
IsJehc 2 years ago
it is our duty to share the message, it is up to Allah to guide or leave misguided, just remember that.
May allah protect you and keep you safe and allow you to be of those who are in the highest of heavens.
Salaam
Ali
naliakbar 2 years ago
thank you sooooo much, that really made me feel good.
may Allah protect you also.
salaam
IsJehc 2 years ago
@IsJehc bro they are no such innocent. Remember Sabira and Shatila mascre? even jews blame christians for killing women , children and animals in Bairut. Remember american war weapons used in Gaza in 2007?What is 911? is not christian govt of USA killed 3000 innocent christians on WTT? blaming muslim occupied Afghanistan and yet people were in daze it occupied Iraq...
ok748 1 year ago
wow because i accept it and i understand it that Jesus is God it doesnt make me rational? now you sound like dawkins. i wait for you to prove how God can not become man and i want from outside source as dawkins would
rational = a logical argument. logic!
forzaitalia2 2 years ago
so jesus was crucified and killed, after they killed jesus, the God coming from jesus body and the roman army is scared to death? i dont understand why the bible had a revision about thousand times. if the bible is words of God,why it needs to repair? God is wrong?
bokybad 3 years ago 4
The Bible did not have a revision, it was translated into all languages throughout all the ages
God is not wrong, only Muhammad was wrong because only Jews could be prophets not those who hated Jews
BonjourNuit88 3 years ago
yes ,the bible had a revision,,a little bit here.. a little bit there... the pope knew it.
and i see from this video the pastor doesn teen know exactly what was in bible..deedat exactly know most of the bible. how can the pastorage dont know bout bible?
and i have read deedat challenged pope john paul 2 (wikipedia about deedat) and the pope just want to talk face to face (not in live television),whyy...?? the pope scared that he cant explain the christianity concept of God?why?
bokybad 3 years ago 3
The Pope is a false prophet, who preaches the doctrine of MYSTERY, GREAT WHORE BABYLON. And she begat harlot daughters. Rev. 17:5
"Come out of her, my people..." Rev. 18:4
The Pope has willingly given his soul to satan. Look to the Bent Cross for the sign of the son of perdition.
She formed the foundation of all Churches, and all who remain in her doctrine will suffer her punishment. Rev. 18:20
Worship God and only God; associate no partners to God.
Peace and blessings.
raginggaijin 3 years ago
God sent prophets all over the world. Ones we heard of and the ones we didn't ... but you know, chew on this for a while. why do you think the Jews needed so many prophets? If they were such nice God fearing people, the Chosen people in fact (which I do believe they were at one stage throughout time) Why would they need so many reminders and prophets to pull them back to righteousness?
psychlopes1976 3 years ago
Another question for Christians and Jews: If you believed in God, why did you kill His Prophets?
Peace and blessings.
raginggaijin 3 years ago
KJV is revised multiple times.
Verses are proven added.
If one part is suspect, all becomes suspect.
The Christian doctrine is luciferian syncretism that usurps worship from God and places it on a created being. Jesus does not receive this worship, the deceiver is the recipient.
You worship the risen sun.
Christians are deceived: They worship satan and do not know it. Church heresy came long before Scripture corruption.
Read Jude.
Peace and blessings.
raginggaijin 3 years ago
only jews could be prophets ? are u saying that god has no right to choose a prophet from any other races ? after all He is "GOD" He can do whatever he wants...
tarmizi2005 2 years ago
Indeed I am saying God chose only the Jews to be prophets and no one else in All the World! God told Abraham loud and clear that God chose not Abraham's first born Ishmael but Abraham's second son Isaac to carry as Everlasting the Covenant thus prophetic line Gen 17:18
That means only Jews could be prophets and no prophes were sent after the Messiah
You say God can do whatever he wanted yet he came into human form and people like you say no he couldn't do it but he did
BonjourNuit37 2 years ago
He can do whatever he wants in terms of command. why should God want to Be Human ? that would make God's authority degrade. It is to stupid for God the Almighty would want to be one of his own creations. Lets say you've created a human model using clay, then you supplicate to God "Oh Lord make me like this clay model that i've created" would you want to do that ? that really sounds stupid to me. I would not do that, for all i know, i want to be the one commanding that clay model of course..
tarmizi2005 2 years ago
When you are taught lies about Jesus such as Jesus didn't die on the cross but another who looked like him died instead and you are commanded to obey only Muhammad who said exalt Islam above the other religions
Then you cannot accept the teachings of other religions
God created us to be able to experience His Presence
God is already with all people on earth
He came into humanform to teach us he is with us to guide us always for that ends sufferings and restores the world back to heaven
BonjourNuit44 2 years ago
Christianity only came into existence after Jesus died on the cross and rose from the dead.
Jesus was sent to the cross because he claimed he was and is God.
Only when he rose from the dead,did people believe him and that is when Christianity came into existence and not a second before.
This event occured so that God could teach he is in all people on earth to guide them but only Christians for their faith were allowed to become aware of his loving presence which even today many do
BonjourNuit89 3 years ago
there is no claim by jesus that he is a GOd. not one in the bible. i dont see it.
bokybad 3 years ago
Jesus did claim he is God
He said I gave them eternal life and that only God can do John 10:18
He said no one comes to the Father except through me...because he is the Father...for he said to Philip, you have seen me, from now on you have seen the Father
He said before Abraham was born: I am John 8:58 and that is the original name God gave of himself to Moses
The Jews picked up stones to stone Jesus while saying you a mere man claim to be God for Jesus had said I and the Father are one
BonjourNuit88 3 years ago
so the God are three peple? or three God? how can one people come from three merging people? if the God was three ,they can be fight each other,, i heard from the christian the John is the traitor, ,i dont understand.
bokybad 3 years ago
No there is only One God, always have been,always will be
From God came all of life, all humankind, all angels.
Nothing and no body exists outside of God
What point is there for saying a million times there is only one true God without understanding only God exists in which humankind is part of God???
John was not a traitor
BonjourNuit88 3 years ago
You're God is so vague that he tries (according to you) to tell you that he is God in all those ways, and yet he never explicitly says (I am God). Good for you!
psychlopes1976 3 years ago
Christianity only came into existence after Jesus died on the cross and rose from the dead.
Jesus was sent to the cross only because he claimed he was and is God and not only was he rejected for that claim but he was hated. Only when he rose from the dead,did people believe him and that is when Christianity came into existence and not a second before.
BonjourNuit3 3 years ago
Jesus preached monotheism:(And this is life eternal,that they might know Thee,the only true God,& Jesus Christ whom Thou has sent)John17:3(And the scribe said unto him,Well,Master,thou hast said the truth:for there is One God and there is none other but He)Mark12:34(But of that day and hour knoweth no man,no,not the angels of the heaven, but my Father only) Matthew24:36(I ascended unto my Father and your Father and to my God and your God)John20:16but u can't understand these biblical verses
slaveofAllah73 3 years ago
Slave actually no Muslim can understand these biblical verses as they were taught the Bible was falsified,as they were taught Jesus didn't die on the cross and as they were taught Jesus was only a prophet when Jesus said in John 10:33 I gave them Eternal Life,Jesus taught we are all part of God and since there is none other besides,no one exists outside of God.
Jesus returned to BEing the FAther as He said to Philip you have seen me from now on you have seen the Father for Jesus is God
BonjourNuit2 3 years ago
This verse contradicts 2 these( And this is life eternal, that they might know Thee, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom Thou has sent) John17:3(And the scribe said unto him, Well,Master,thou hast said the truth: for there is One God and there is none other but He)Mark12:34(But of that day and hour knoweth no man,no,not the angels of the heaven,but my Father only) Matthew24:36(I ascended unto my Father and your Father and to my God and your God)John20:16.God's word hasn't contrdictions.
slaveofAllah73 3 years ago
Slave Jesus is God, Jesus said I gave them Eternal life John 10-28
Whoever has my commands and obeys them,he is the one who loves me John 14:21
Judgement day will occur at the right time and not before
Jesus is God,always has been and always will be, the universe might come and Go but God is Eternal and everlasting.
Jesus is the Father,he said to Philip you have seen me, from now on you have seen the Father John 14-9
For Jesus's mission was to teach we are part of God and God is with us
BonjourNuit4 3 years ago
Mohammad was in the bible.
Song of Solomon 5:16: "His mouth is sweetness itself; he is altogether lovely. This is my lover, this my friend, O daughters of Jerusalem."
altogether lovely=praise=Ahmad/Mohammad.
STATED IN YOUR BIBLE.
cicakkobeng 3 years ago
cicakkobeng Muhammad was never in the Bible that Muhammad himself said was falsified
Is that not insane that on hand he invalidated the Bible by his claim then on the other hand he tried to say he was in the Bible which is a LIE, no prophet was to come after Jesus and if Muhammad was truly from God people would have known by his teachings and by his teachings wise people know he was false
BonjourNuit10 3 years ago
So all his life Jesus (pbuh) were teaching something then after he rose from dead as you say he made to us surprise!? You cannot find this cross or word christianity in the whole bible, and Jesus (pbuh) never said he is God in the whole bible!
2875398 3 years ago
I do not need to find the cross in order to believe that Jesus died on the cross and in order to trust in God's love for humankind.
You were
taught Jesus didn't die on the cross was deceived therefore you perhaps want to touch the cross and to find Jesus'AB negative blood type to prove to you what we know it fact
So what the word christianity does not exist in the whole bible
Jesus did say He is God in the Bible and he proved it by dying on the cross and rising from the dead
BonjourNuit23 3 years ago
GOd can be killed? wow..awesome...can you tell me how to kill the god?using machine gun?
bokybad 3 years ago
bokybad God took on a humanbody and that body was killed just as our human bodies die but God rose from the dead to reveal he can not be killed for that is what the crucifiction and resurrection mean
Asking if you can kill God using a machine gun reveals your aggrogance
When you do not see God,nor hear God nor know God,then you are dead because such a God does not exist
God desires to be experienced so he went to the cross and rose from the dead to teach he is in all people to guide them
BonjourNuit89 3 years ago
no!your wrong they thought he died on the cross but everything was similar to the miricle of jonah three days in the belly of the whale,so shall the son of man in the belly of the earth.Isa himself spoke of this his followers denied it.The story goes like this Isa declared to be a prophet but the jews denied him by calling him a bastard. he was put on the cross then he survived the ordeal. centuries passed when this story of isa reached the pagans, they misunderstood and edited few things.
salekh01 3 years ago
Christianity only came into existence after Jesus died on the cross and rose from the dead.
Jesus was sent to the cross only because he claimed he was and is God and not only was he rejected for that claim but he was hated. Only when he rose from the dead,did people believe him and that is when Christianity came into existence and not a second before.
BonjourNuit3 3 years ago
lovelypk why is that preaching to say why Jesus went to the Cross?
It is a fact.
You are no longer a Christian and I am not a Muslim,I don't have to prove anything to you because I am not here to convert you, I am here to defend my religion and I am saying exactly the truth as to why Jesus went to the cross because Jesus died on the cross but this Muslim site is saying Jesus didn't die on the cross and that is a lie
BonjourNuit3 3 years ago
jesus is a muslim, he teach islam the religion of Allah to believe in one god the almighty.The power of god is given thru him cos we human cant see god.Christian as human being ignorant and arrogant will never be satisfied with the truth and fact that he is the prophet of allah and for ur info jesus is the prophet to the jews and how does this christian come about.
pakmalau 3 years ago
Why is that every muslim scholar preaches instead of proving their belief?
cheapshot1234 3 years ago
Christianity only came into existence after Jesus died on the cross and rose from the dead.
Jesus was sent to the cross only because he claimed he was and is God and not only was he rejected for that claim but he was hated. Only when he rose from the dead,did people believe him and that is when Christianity came into existence and not a second before.
BonjourNuit 4 years ago
why is it that every christian scholar preaches in stead of proving their belief...
Enes007 4 years ago 4
what do you want them to say. when the bible, their only mean of defense is held against them and is proven (and im saying that becuz no body else contrudicted deedat) wrong. so to save themselves the ebaresment they preach and try to eat up time
2pacalcool 4 years ago 2
Deedat? This deedat is a wonderful speaker. That's it. Any Christian who knows their Bible pretty well knows that he quotes them out of context, misreads verses, decieves and tells half truths. Only an ignorant crowd tends to believe him without looking into his words carefully.
Deedat is just a good speaker. But ironic that God struck him and shut his greatest gift - the gift of speaking and paralyzed this man who had no qualms of insulting the Lord Jesus Christ. He was warned many times.
cheapshot1234 3 years ago
No prophet was to come after Jesus because only Jesus is to return as God Rev.21:3-4Jesus said those coming after him will be false prophets like wolves in sheep's clothing and only Muh came,pretending to be pious but he had blood on his hands,
he was accused of being greedy for the spoils of war and he had many wives including a 9 year old child. The fact that he had a child for a wife is proof itself that he did not know God.
BonjourNuit 4 years ago
the funny thing is you prolly heard this from someone and you are posting it here.we dont take the accusation to Muhammed (asws) kindely but i will take a moment to tell you something im pretty sure u dont know.one of the prophets other wives is Hafsa. NOW,when he married her she was 17 thats cool.BUT, she had been married twice before,so what im i trying to tell you? WOMAN GOT MARRIED AT EARLY AGES BECUZ THEY MATURED EARLER. but ur prolly just trying to convince urself tha ur faith is the truth
2pacalcool 4 years ago
I like how the priest didn't start off as attacting Ahmed but proving his point Was christ crucified.
sr1215cl 4 years ago
Even Harrypotter is better than Bible
GOD TEMPTS MEN.
And it came to pass after these things, that God did tempt Abraham. (Gen. 22:1.)
O Lord, thou has deceived [marginal reading, enticed] me, and I was deceived [enticed]. (Jer. 20:7.)
Lead us not into temptation. (Matt. 6:13.)
GOD TEMPTS NO MAN.
Let no may say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God; for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man. (James 1:13.)
nooraddyn 4 years ago
GOD NEVER TEMPTS ANY ONE;
James 1:13
Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man.
PEOPLE HAVE BEEN TEMPTED BY GOD;
Genesis 22:1
God did tempt Abraham
Matthew 6:13
And lead us not into temptation.
OZrobbie 4 years ago
GOD CANT BE TEMPTED
James 1:13
"Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man"
GOD IS TEMPTED
"Ye shall not tempt the Lord your God".-Deuteronomy 6:16
"Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God".-Matthew 4:7, Luke 4:12
OZrobbie 4 years ago
Just curious, what kind of person is worthy of being worshiped in your opinion? A very powerful person who doesn't demonstrate a perfect good character? Would God be worthy of worship if He wasn't all good? Would God be worthy of worship if He didn't prove His perfect righteous character (which includes humility, being sinless, compassionate, just, forgiving and loving)?
sabathiel01 4 years ago
Another problem In this comment. Lets say im an ignorant person who accepts that Jesus flesh was tempted and not his spirit. Isn't Jesus flesh part of him? Doesn't it mean that part of God has been tempted? Parts of god have desires? Therefore, parts of God have weaknesses? God and weaknesses? Is that worthy of worship?
OZrobbie 4 years ago
Jesus is worthy of worship because He is the Creator of the Universe who humbled Himself (left His heavenly glory) and came to earth as a man to share our experiences, show compassion and demonstrate His Holy Character by laying down His life to save humanity from the penalty of sin. He is not only all powerful who created all things He is totally good in character.
sabathiel01 4 years ago
hollywood!
he is a dramatical hollywood star!
god is all seen all knowing, doesn't need to share experience, us?yes.
wisdomuser 4 years ago
Still not convinced? Ok can a dead body which made of human flesh commit a crime? Of course no. this is because it has no spirit. In contrast, can a living person commit a crime? Yes because it has a spirit/ ALIVE. Now if there is NO crime with out spirit, doesn't it mean its the spirit that is being tempted?
OZrobbie 4 years ago
One can be powerful showing no weaknesses whatsoever but can be evil at the same time. Is this worthy of worship? Jesus is all powerful in heaven left His power and glory to show His goodness. This is worthy of worship. Even if you don't accept Jesus as God the concept of a Holy God coming to earth in humility as a man to show His love for His creation is a person worthy of being worshiped (in concept!at least to the one who doesn't accept Jesus as God).
sabathiel01 4 years ago
if one is powerful and evil isnot worthy of worship, but the powerful who worths worship is most gracious most merciful. and you find it 114times in quran at the begining of evry surah, and more if you go throu the sura its self
wisdomuser 4 years ago
Temptation is defined as the desire to have or do something that you know you should avoid.
The question is; can you tempt a living person? YES cause every living person have desires. Note here you're alive because of your spirit in your body/flesh.
Can you tempt a dead person? NO. Why? Cause its only a body/flesh with no spirit. DEAD MEAT don't have desires, therefore can't be tempted.
In conclusion, How can Jesus human flesh be tempted if a normal person flesh cant be tempted
OZrobbie 4 years ago
Define your concept (hypothetical) of a being worthy of worship?
sabathiel01 4 years ago
the god worthy of worship is ALLPOWERFUL! NEVER HUMELIATED, NOT BEGOTTEN NEVER BEGETS, UNEQUAL, ALLNKOWING, ALLHEARING, THELOVING BY FORGIVING YOU JUST BY REPENTING AND PROMESSING TO NOT DO THE SIN AGAIN, THE PUNISHER of the evil work and devil doers, THE SUSTAINER, THE ONE WHO GIVES YOU A merciful mom and dad and nature!
wisdomuser 4 years ago
allahu akbar :D.. and btw to beget is an animal act o christians how do u associate it with "ur" GOD.. astakhfiru allah..
2pacalcool 4 years ago
some christians argue that "Christians never say that Jesus wasn't a man. His flesh is human but His spirit is Divine. What is flesh can be tempted so obviously the Devil was tempting the human side of Jesus. In the Spirit Jesus can never be tempted".
Jesus human FLESH was tempted and not Jesus spirit/soul.
Lets test this theory. Ist the flesh that's tempted or the spirit?
OZrobbie 4 years ago
GOD TEMPTED BY DEVIL?IMPOSIBBLE!
faiz1986 4 years ago
Good point faiz. God can never be tempted by the devil because God is perfect. one must understand that temptations are derived from the lack of control over desires. which means weaknesses. the formula should be God--> no Desires--> therefore, nothing to tempt---> therefore, no weaknesses --> Perfect.
OZrobbie 4 years ago
It is only a weakness if you succumbed to temptation. Jesus is sinless despite being tempted in every way (Hebrews 4:15) which shows strength of spirit and character beyond imagination. Since Jesus had a flesh His spirit was tempted as the Spirit occupied the flesh and are in unity however when the Spirit departs the flesh the Spirit cannot be tempted. That is why temptation and sin can only happen when the spirit is in the flesh and yet Jesus is sinless.
sabathiel01 4 years ago
jesus is sinless.
every human can be tempted except who god doesn't want them to be tempted.
wisdomuser 4 years ago
I don't worship any statue of Jesus or Mary but all Muslims bow down towards the Ka'bah in Meccah. God is everwhere no need to bow down to the Ka'bah. Jesus was crucified because the Bible produces the names of the eyewitnesses who saw Jesus on the cross and elaborated in great detail the crucifixion. The Quran dismisses this in a couple of sentences. How credible is that? Can't the Quran elaborate in great detail namning witnesses what really happened if it was telling the Truth?
sabathiel01 4 years ago
yes we bow down towards teh kaaba, but we dont pray to the Kaaba, look at my video that i created about prayer and you see that. we pray that way for uniformity so when someone goes to prayer we are in unity no matter where you go. as for elaboration, the quran is a book of signs, so there is no need for details just enough to show belief.
naliakbar 4 years ago
In the Bible bowing down to something is proof of worshiping that thing. The Quran a book of signs and no need for details? This means it doesn't rely on logic and commonsense which Muslims often claim. It expects blind faith which I refuse to give. I like reason and commonsense to an extent. Someone went into a cave and comes out saying "I have God's words just trust me". That is asking too much even from idiots.
sabathiel01 4 years ago
you Pagan worship idol of Jesus n Maria.. he was not crucified, liar!! you priest n preacher because you get paid well by the churches. churches forces worker to pay money from their salary.. ah you are liar..
kabariku 4 years ago
Jesus was tempted by the Devil in human form not in His Spirit form.
sabathiel01 4 years ago
isnt temptation a sin?
naliakbar 4 years ago
Jesus was tempted by the Devil. Off course temptation is evil but it is the Devil's job to do evil.
sabathiel01 4 years ago
but it is GOd's job to never be tempted. because god is the devine creator... so it shows that jesus was a man, only a man can be tempted.
naliakbar 4 years ago
Christians never say that Jesus wasn't a man. His flesh is human but His spirit is Divine. What is flesh can be tempted so obviously the Devil was tempting the human side of Jesus. In the Spirit Jesus can never be tempted.
sabathiel01 4 years ago
The soul is inspired by the Spirit. The Human biological body is tempted by the devil because it is weak and requires material satisfaction. Every Human has a soul which can allow the Sprit to enter. However some people destroy them selves and as a result they inevitably block out the entrance to the soul.
mustafagtgt 4 years ago
"but we have one (Jesus) who has been tempted in every way, just as we are-yet was without sin" Hebrews 4:15. Jesus is the only person without sin making Him Holy (sinless) and Divine who is God! Nobody else shares this Divinity with Jesus. There is no partners to God (Jesus) and He is One. You only have the Spirit of God if you accept Jesus as Lord and Saviour when your sins have been cleansed by the blood of Jesus. What is Holy (the Spirit) cannot dwell in the unholy (sinners).
sabathiel01 4 years ago
thats correct nailakbar.temptation is defined as the desire to have or do something that you know you should avoid. being tempted means having a desire which leads to weaknesses of (lack of control). clearly thats not god's character
OZrobbie 4 years ago
Big NO! temptation is not a sin.. once you commit with the temptation now you commit sin.. and the wages of sin is death..
caleb4545 4 years ago
This Bishop is quite a good speaker. You almost get tricked into believing that what he says is genuine...that's until he start speaking about talking about Jesus being God.
ketsuhige 5 years ago
Submission is Islam.
sgrbabe 5 years ago
In James 1:13 we are told "13When tempted, no one should say, "God is tempting me." For God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does he tempt anyone"
Then in In Luke 4:1-2 Jesus is tempted by the devil for 40 days: "Jesus, full of the Holy Spirit, returned from the Jordan and was led by the Spirit in the desert, 2where for forty days he was tempted by the devil."
ketsuhige 5 years ago
so ur tellin mi jesus ur lord was tempted by e devil...peace mate!!
athalia123 5 years ago
brother yes, same religion of adam and noah and abrham moses , yahya(john) whom the jews killed, like many messengers they killed, point is we need the old languages of this word islam, they just love english and thats all around teh world, language can be different but islam is the meaning of the messengers, pbu all of them salam ali kum
jean4you 4 years ago