Major General Stubblebine Speaks Out

[CamillioD]

New independent verifiable evidence in this documentary,

You Tupe: NATIONAL SECURITY ALERT - 9/11 PENTAGON ATTACK

[zigzayglock]

Who remembers, on 9/11 on 6 o'clock news, the guy who was taking a home video in his yard and caught a glimpse of a cruise missile going through the sky, then after commercial it was never talked about again?

[kewlfonz]

And the plane wreckage found strew all over the Pentagon's lawns?—explain that...

[SENsale87]

@kewlfonz Well he can't answer u know. In the live footages the pieces collected by the people are very small so they could be from a rocket, no problem there. The pictures with FBI agents carrying plane parts away were set up afterwards i think. But thats not the point! He said no plane! A person who knows exactly what he's talking about. The FBI admitted that there are 84 videos of the pentagon seen during the impact kept secret. Something to hide? Explain that!

[TheHorta]

Time for your Alzheimer's medication, Generalisimo.

[aviomaster]

THANK you General for speaking the truth , GOD bless you and all REAL Americans CRIMINALS of all kinds from Government officials to  killers whould be in PRISON.

[raishyboy]

And we're supposed to believe that an aluminium cockpit managed to puncture all the steel reinforced concrete rings of the pentagon...AND come put the other side!!!

So very convenient... destroying the evidence that the DOD could not account for 3.4 TRILLION dollars....

[campaign4liberty]

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[ajkh888]

i think the better question is why isn't there any camera footage of this plane? One of the most secure and surveilled buildings in the world with hundreds of cameras and no one asks where is the camera footage. I think that's more ridiculous than the lie of a plane hitting it because it's obvious no plane hit it

[Amezz55]

@ajkh888 good point

[raishyboy]

@ajkh888

Absolutely right and no evidence of the engines hitting the building.

[SexyMelon]

Err... Might want to check out some other photos, general. Dozens quite clearly show a very thin plane-sized hole.

[raishyboy]

@SexyMelon

What is a "very thin plane sized hole"? Have you ever flown? The engines are the biggest, compact and heaviest part of a plane. By right the two engines should have a least made an imprint on the building don't you think? Should definitely be two impact sites on the building where the engines should be....

[SexyMelon]

@raishyboy The engines also left a dent, and were later found in the rubble (steel and titanium don't burn). It's harder to verify their exact impact location since the building segment collapsed afterwards.

[PanSzewczykDratewka]

... and YES - Stumblebine is "The Men Who Stare At Goats" and he is not the only one, but the film is about him and the film is also a master piece of NWO agenda called Illuminati.

[PanSzewczykDratewka]

Stubblebine is a NWO middle class associate together with Rima Laibow ( she is trying to pretend as anty Codex Alimentarius but she is a hoax - i know it personally from Robert Verkerk from ANH ) they are trying to lure public attention. Watch for those two NWO scums.

[nicklinn]

That would be him.

[1nationunderagroove]

Stubblebine was the head of military intelligence for many years. If anyone wants to know the truth about him do some research, and start with a movie called Blowback on Google. There are many plants put into the truth movement to infiltrate and gather information.

[nicklinn]

Are you talking about that terrible cop drama? I don't see what that has to do with anything.

[dreadnaught2]

General Stubblebine is a senile old fart. When he can address the hundreds of eyewitnesses that saw flight 77 crash I will give him back his walker.....and maybe his teeth.

[bobbygnosis]

Well, one week later I still don't have a reply to my question.

I wonder what that means . . .

[bobbygnosis]

I don't know enough to agree with you about all of what you said, but I certainly agree that they made a specific claim that can't be backed up by evidence. That its a specific plane they cite should be a clue that there's a target idea they're going for. They want us to have a specific idea about what hit the pentagon as opposed to inducing the event via bservations and evidence. As for banking ties, yeah, I totally agree with that.

Cheers to knowledge and research.

Peace.

[bobbygnosis]

Let's be perfectly clear here;

in this photo

911review (DOT) com/errors/pentagon/imgs/hole1 1 (DOT)jpg

We can see a red outline which suggests damage. No such damage exists within the photo. The area above where it says "18 feet" has no damage to it. The area above where the outline of the fuselage impact SHOULD HAVE been is also untouched. So though there are outlines there is no damage beneath the outlines.

Where is the damage? Where is the hole? The plane? Anything?

[HoughMorris]

watch?v=irOj1QYjVvc

nies harrit nano thermit am WTC

live im daenischen TV

[killuminati63]

i absolutely LOVE albert stubblebine... im gunna check this link... : )

[7514328]

aboveyourhead: "Corporate" predators.

[810men]

The free masons - and most of Nato

[rsmith7042]

Blame America first! Nice . . . .

[lapmedong]

9/11 was an inside job! Al ciaDuh, a creation of Robert Gates & Z big, is not going to crash a plane that large into the most well guarded, secure bldg on the face of this earth. I will believe it when they prove it by releasing all of the video tapes covering the pentagon from the outside & from every possible /conceivable angle. Oh wait a minute, thats not going to happen is it? lmao

[justanotherkevin]

Like I have said before: If an aircraft crashed into the Pentagon there would be both video and stills of the incoming plane. Not one single frame of an aircraft has ever been released.

Of course the official story claims the gas station across the street captured the incoming plane and had the footage taken by the FBI. Who do you think has better surveillance the Pentagon or a friggin gas station?

Maybe the Pentagon should ask AM/PM where they get their cameras?

[Mahoivlich]

"Men Who Stare at Goats" both book and doc is on vid google

[pattoncarter]

Believing that the creation must have a Creator is logical...believing that you can suspend the laws of physics and walk through walls is silly.

[bobbygnosis]

Why aren't you a truther then?

[WeCanAllGetAllong]

Right,a plane does not fit in that hole!

Research and read!

[Mahoivlich]

Isn't stubblebein the guy who though he could "align" his molecules and walk through the wall?

[pattoncarter]

Yes. He also tried to find men who could make the enemy's heart stop just by looking at them and other such nonsense. I believe a lot of this his nuttery is covered in the book "Men Who Stare at Goats" or something like that.

[Mahoivlich]

ya was trying to remember that one thanks

[euro944t]

George Clooney playing the Gen. in new depopulation film ?

[martyr2005]

he says so ,,,annoyed and serious WHAT HIT THE PENTAGON , WHERE IS IT, WHATS GOING ON !!!???

and people still thinks that conspiracy theory is the mad one?

XD

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOl

retarded,,,,,U WILL BE ALL CHIPPED !

[bobbygnosis]

Read what the 9/11 families have to say. The only reason Bush couldn't block the 9/11 Commission any longer was because of the 9/11 families. The questions they wanted answered were not answered by the 9/11 Commission.

Read what the 9/11 families have to say.

Call for a criminal investigation.

[pattoncarter]

If you know of a crime, go file charges. What are you waiting on. It's only been seven years. Even moonbat DA Jim Garrison found someone to persecute for Kennedy's assassination quicker that you dufuses have.

[bobbygnosis]

I earn minimum wage. I cannot afford one lawyer to combat their teams of lawyers. Let's also remember that the courts are paid by these people. What you suggest is no small thing.

This needs a lot of people wide awake to happen.

[bobbygnosis]

Bush blocked the 9/11 commission. The 9/11 commission didn't allow certain evidence to be available to the board members. The steel was illegally recycled before it could be tested.

There is a cover up. I found out about it from the 9/11 families. Read about the collapse time and how long it should've taken with progressive collapse.

Bush's cousin and uncle were on the payroll of the security company for WTC. That wasn't in the commission.

Call for a criminal investigation.

[LancedeBoil]

"There is a cover up. I found out about it from the 9/11 families"

Yeah, right. I'll just bet you hear all the good inside gossip from them. As if they'd even know ... or would bother with a clown like you.

[TankMonster105]

"The steel was illegally recycled before it could be tested"

Who said it wasn't tested? Were those 400 NYPD detectives at the steel holding area, plus the 50 FBI agents & ATF, NYState cops, NYFD inspectors and everyone else there for months just eating doughnuts? And who said it was illegally removed? You? Or a real source.

[Terry5135]

Who said it WAS tested? Can you point to a source?

As for all those cops, who knows if they were eating donuts or not and who cares. Maybe they were there to keep people from walking off with the evidence before it could be shipped overseas. Hell, they keep the evidence from a mere plane crash for years, but you think it's fine that the evidence from destroying entire skyscrapers is removed within a few months and put completely out of reach.

Good thinking, Batman.

[bobbygnosis]

I do not read prison planet because I don't trust Alex Jones.

You have not read what the widows of 9/11 have to say. You have not read about the collapse times. You have not read about VIGILANT GUARDIAN. Read about these things and you'll see the truth really quickly.

Read what the widows say.

Call for a criminal investigation.

[bobbygnosis]

Again, you're not reading your sources.

The official story calls for a collapse time between 90 seconds and 110 seconds. The collapse of those buildings was in less than 11 seconds. The difference between 90 seconds and 11 seconds is about one minute and 9 seconds. What you have just said, in effect, is that you are not only illiterate, but wrong.

Read your sources and read them in context.

Free fall speeds by your own source.

Call for a criminal investigation.

[bobbygnosis]

No, because if they didn't identify it as American Airlines then it may not have been. Not all jetliners are A.A. there are other companies as well as government planes.

As for the "no planes" theory, I don't care. You didn't bother reading your own sources. You are incapable of coherent logical thought.

To all those capable of coherent thought: question the official story. Speculation is nonsense. People were murdered that day and we still don't know why.

Call for a criminal investigation.

[ChopperSix]

"stopping the clock when the building disappears into the 25-story dust cloud"

I get just over 11 seconds to the dust cloud, maybe another 3? seconds when it should be hitting the ground. Hard to estimate exactly.

Can't be free-fall since you can see the debris chunks from the top, they're going a lot faster to the ground than the building itself is falling.

[bobbygnosis]

Final posit:

The clearest evidence of complicity is the collapse time of the three buildings. They all happened at freefall speed. No one will touch that because there is no way to refute that. It was recorded by the University of Columbia Seismological equipment.

Talking about the pentagon is only one piece. The bigger piece is the collapse times of WTC 1, 2 and 7.

Call for a criminal investigation.

[cwlldoran]

One way to refute the 'free fall speed' claim would be to drop some heavy object off the building just as the collapse starts and see if it reaches the ground at the same time as the floor it came from.If you watch the videos of the collapse you can see the experiment being done - pieces of debris fall away from the building as the collapse starts and they fall way ahead of the floors. The evidence is there in front of you - totally incontrovertable.

[bobbygnosis]

You can calculate "free fall speed" with Newtonian Mathematics. It states about 9.2 seconds. Not that you know, or have looked it up, but according to the Palisades Seismic record in Columbia University (you may now look that up if you'd like) the material took around 10 seconds to hit the ground. This is air resistance. Even the fourteen second range most people get is close to freefall speeds.

Not that you ever looked it up. But I like that you're trying.

Cheers.

[cwlldoran]

You seem not to have read my post. You don't have to do any calculation or refer to seismic records. The debris that falls away from the building is falling way faster than the floors are- the debris is falling at 'free fall' speed so the floors can't be.

[bobbygnosis]

That's an outstanding attempt at a side step and I commend you for thinking just far enough to give a superficial rebuttal without having to think through this thoroughly. I would recommend that you study these things, but you seem to be content with ignorance. Which is fine. I just think its too bad. Your determination would, I think, be better spent trying to help out.

In either case I say, good job for "sticking to your guns."

Cheers.

[cwlldoran]

This isn't about 'sticking to guns' -I can't change what is obvious in the videos. I'm pointing out to you that the debris is falling ahead of the floors -you couldn't get a better reference for the rate of the building's collapse relative to freefall. How many people have you heard saying that if you drooped an object from the Twin Towers it would reach the ground at the same time as it took the towers themselves to collapse? That is clearly not the case.

[bobbygnosis]

Of course, of course. Just because I said freefall speeds and the data matches by around 90% doesn't mean anything. Just because the structure of WTC 1, 2 and 7 only offered air resistance means nothing. Just because it was measured by siesmographs and cameras means nothing. I totally agree. Other than the records and all, you're totally right.

Cheers to you for finding out the truthiest of truths.

[cwlldoran]

I'm totally right? - what has this got to do with me? Does the debris falling  from the building reach the ground before the buildings themselves have collapsed? At what rate is the debis falling at? You say measured by cameras- that is what I am saying - the falling debris gives you a clear indication of the rate of freefall, with air resistance, and the building is clearly collapsing more slowly than that.

[bobbygnosis]

Yes, you're totally right. I don't know - you're the one expressing "rightness." Given that the whole building collapsed with freefall speeds and not all of the material went straight down but rather also to the sides I don't think it matters. Freefall speeds are freefall speeds.

The measurements are from cameras and also from a seismograph in New York (you didn't look it up, did you?). Yes, the building collapsed in less than eleven seconds . . .

Freefall time.

And you're right.

[bobbygnosis]

All of this attack and defense of the official story is nonsense. Until there is a criminal investigation into 9/11 there will be nothing but questions.

Call for a criminal investigation.

[bobbygnosis]

American Airlines Jet: 6

unidentified airplane/jet: 12

More than 66% of those testimonies did not have the people identifying the pentagon as being hit by an American Airlines jet. The text has the phrase "American Airlines" outside of the witness' statement which implies that they are stating that they saw an American Airlines jet. But this is clearly misleading. Read your sources next time.

I'm not that easily fooled.

Call for a criminal investigation.

[bobbygnosis]

This is most interesting.

Thank you for this new (to me) information.

[SonsOfAzazel]

"Why would there be high-speed cameras ringing the Pentagon, just so the security guards inside could catch trespassers"

Really neat close-up shots of those giant rats in the dumpsters at the front of the South Parking Lot?

Might be fun for those lazy-ass civil service guards there, keep 'em awake for a change.

Not sure just how useful this would be for monitoring the protesters at the River Entrance, or some hypothetical burglar, but you might be able to sell it to the National Geo Channel.

[BlazingFerret]

At least you're honest enough to admit that you block comments from those who don't support your conspiracy cult theories.

Now .. if you were just honest enough to show the Pentagon photos that show over an 80-foot width of busted concrete columns, all burst inward, instead outward as a missile strike would have done.

Or posted Walters' COMPLETE quote, instead of that cherry-picked "cruise missile" tidbit. The rest of it makes it clear he saw a PLANE.

[bobbygnosis]

Witness testimony from the pentagon varies too wildly to accept any one of them. One person saw a propeller plane and another saw a helicopter.

As for the 80 ft hole. No. No such photograph exists and I challenge you to link to it.

[BlazingFerret]

"One person saw a propeller plane and another saw a helicopter"

And two hundred others saw a jumbo jet, most of them very clearly.

If you're really too dumb to find the photos of the 80-foot hole:

911review (DOT) com/errors/pentagon/imgs/hole1­1 (DOT)jpg

[bobbygnosis]

Two hundred? I'd like to see a link to that testimony. Moreover a criminal investigation would be better suited for this.

Call for a criminal investigation and the whole truth movement will shut up.

[bobbygnosis]

I see an intact window where the tail should've hit the building. Try looking at your sources and thinking about what you're seeing before you post them.

I'm not that easily fooled.

Call for a criminal investigation.

[cwlldoran]

Look at Loose Change and you can see the 90ft wide hole in the facade of the Pentagon.

[bobbygnosis]

I don't actually know what you're refering to, but I'll assume you haven't looked into this so I'll show you a photograph of the pentagon before the building collapsed:

911review (DOT) com/errors/pentagon/imgs/hole1 1 (DOT)jpg

That was posted by someone trying to say a plane did actually go into the building. I don't see the three rather largish holes where wings would have gone in. I don't see sheared off wings.

Can you point them out for me? It'd help a lot.

[cwlldoran]

Does that 96ft wide area look undamaged to you?

[bobbygnosis]

The area where there should be a dorsal wing shaped hole does not have a dorsal wing shaped hole. Where is the dorsal wing hole or if there is no hole where is the dorsal wing?

[cwlldoran]

I presume you are talking about the tail? If you are then the area where it says '18 ft' is where the tail struck. This is the '18 ft hole' that people constantly talk about being the only damage to the Pentagon which is so obvoiusly not the case - but people like Mr. Stubblebine are taken in and give interviews saying 'a plane didn't hit the Pentagon' ,convincing a load of other people who think he must know what he's talking about.

[bobbygnosis]

Another very clever sidestep. You've done it again. Rather than point, with visual cues and references, to the damage in the pentagon you've said that there is damage. I'm not disputing in any way that there is damage. I'm asking about the dorsal wing hole - nonextant - or the dorsal wing - also nonextant. If you can point these out to me I will concede that point willingly. Gratefully.

But I don't think you're concerned about verifying what you think you. To which I say: kudos.

Peace.

[cwlldoran]

I don't know how I could be more clear - you asked me where the tail struck and I pointed it out to you- I presume you mean the tail when you say the 'dorsal wing' - I can't say I've heard that term before - if you are looking for a hole exactly the same shape as the tail then that is hardly realistic. Are you talking about the tailplane ?

[bobbygnosis]

No, as a point of fact you didn't.

I don't mind asking again, so I will. Where, in this photograph:

911review (DOT) com/errors/pentagon/imgs/hole1 1 (DOT)jpg

Where exactly is the damage from the dorsal fin? If there is no damager from the dorsal fin (just because I don't see any doesn't mean you don't either) please, then show me where the dorsal fin is that didn't go into the building.

Where is the damage or the fin?

Cheers.

[cwlldoran]

I said previously

"I presume you are talking about the tail? If you are then the area where it says '18 ft' is where the tail struck"

If we are looking at the same photo , the area where it says '18ft' -that area is where the tail hit the building- the fuselage below caused the huge damage to the ground floor. You have surely seen photos where the fire truck on the left is spraying foam at the building and the foam obscures the damage on the ground floor and you can only see the '18 ft hole

[bobbygnosis]

Yeah, that area to which you're referring seemes, to me, to be an unbroken white wall. I'm sorry, but I don't see a "tail shaped hole" in that unbroken. Can you give me a reference by which I might see it?

Also, there is no fuselage. Where is the fuselage? One of the things I was told, by CNN, was that the fire was so hot it made the fuselage evaporate. Am I to be lieve you or CNN? Who's lying here?

I digress. Where is the hole or the tail? I don't see either.

[cwlldoran]

The 'unbroken white wall' is not part of the photograph - it is a rectangle to focus on the area. If you look at the top of the rectangle you can see it is not part of the building. If you watch the youtube video ,at 0.30 they circle the area where the damage is.This ,as I said before, is the 'hole' that people say is the only dammage to the building!

[bobbygnosis]

You are correct about the rectangle being a focal area. I must admit that I hadn't noticed it. That said, within the highlighted rectangle area - directly above where the fuselage should have gone in - there is an area where there is no dorsal wing hole. There is no hole for the dorsal wing and I still see no dorsal wing.

Since you've shown me something, I'd like to ask you to go a step further and point out the dorsal wing hole or the dorsal wing. Thanks for setting me straight, by the by.

[smithpike]

Stubblebine was on the Alex Jones show again 02 June 2008 infowars [dot] com

[Sielomax]

Let me add a comment that can be considered neutral. What the government needs to do is release the actual real video of the object or aircraft that impacted supposedly the most defended building in the world. My own view is that until they do this, [which they won't dobecause they know that no 757 hit that building] until they do that, it wont stop us "conspiracy nuts" from calling them traitors and murderers.

[HughGQuipment]

"What the government needs to do is release the actual real video of the object or aircraft that impacted supposedly the most defended building in the world"

What actual evidence can you cite that there is any video aside from the security camera at the gate, or the video from across the highway?

Actually, if you think the Pentagon is "the most defended building in the world," you haven't been there, or to any other government office building in D.C. Ask anyone who's worked there.

[ResurrectedFish]

"release the actual real video of the object or aircraft that impacted"

What video? Why would there be high-speed cameras ringing the Pentagon, just so the security guards inside could catch trespassers on the lawn?

If they could engineer a plot this big, don't you think they could manage to Photoshop a few frames of film, too?

[3XXKeturah]

Watch 9/11 Mysteries for exposure of controlled demolition of the three (yes, 3) NY skyscrapers. The roof of the Pentagon remained intact for twenty mins. after impact -- the windows adjacent to the impact hole were unbroken. Only a small missile or radio-controlled plane or drone could have hit the Pentagon. Wake up, people! These denials of "inside-job" comments are posted by traitors and servitors of the government-corporate instigators.

[z8it]

Please cite your research. If the evidence and photos that you say exist, I'd greatly benefit from seeing it.

If you have evidence of jumbo jet engines w serial #s; I'll listen; believe Me.

[Vierotchka]

Nope, they were not clearly visible, since the engine and landing gear & wheels in the photos of the wreckage don't belong to a 757.

[Vierotchka]

You obviously adhere to the zaniest of conspiracy theoris, the official one.

[Vierotchka]

Except that the only engine in the photos is tiny compared to those of a 757, but don't let facts confuse you.

[Vierotchka]

How many engines does a 757 have? How many holes were punched? The width of the damage does not exclude a missile, you trifling mini-penis.

[Vierotchka]

In which case, it didn't vaporize. Thanks for making my point. Oh, and the hole was far too small for all this.

[ReemYoranus]

"it didn't vaporize"

Nobody ever said the whole thing vaporized. You don't need proof for something that didn't happen.

Hole was too small? Apparently you didn't even look at the photo.

Over 100' wide damage, punch-thru hole just about the same size as a 757 fuselage.

Look at the photo this time.

[Vierotchka]

I've seen the photos many times, the hole is considerably smaller than the diameter of a 757 fuselage. But you're entitled to your delusions.

[Vierotchka]

An airplane doesn't consist only of an aluminium skin. Furthermore, if it vaporized (atomized), what part of the plane punched through six walls in the Pentagon?

[roodeey]

Picking and choosing your own facts is dishonest.

Just like the way Colin Powell saw WMD's in Iraq from his expert analysis or Saddam obtaining uranium from Africa or Saddam being linked with Osama, mutually plotting 911.

Picking and choosing facts isn't necessarily dishonest; its impossible not to pick and choose but manufacturing facts is outright deceitful.

[roodeey]

This clip is awesome a US General whose expertise is analysing photographs and images saying a plane did not hit the Pentagon-where is it then- if a missle hit the Pentagon where is the plane-"what is going on?" love it.

This guy also was in charge of remote viewing/psi operations for military intellegence- he should be Commander in Chief. who is he? why is he saying that? what is going on? hahahaha

[EnricoSuarve]

Actually the reinforced concrete in use in the pentagon originally was far from normal - it used a lot less steel than normal, due to war time rationing (they didn't want to set a bad example)

The section which was hit had recently been refurbished and its supports strengthened

Ah yes, another guy who can't even be bothered learning about his OWN country

[z8it]

The NTSB recovered flt.800 from the bottom of the ocean! and reassembled it in a warehouse. C'mon! even disregarding the black boxes. It is a simple question...Where are the titanium engines (w/serial #s) of this aircraft?!

And if they say that they vaporized... THEY ARE LYING!

[z8it]

Precisely! This is the key! the Jet engines have serial #s and the chain of evidence can by tracked from there. But to any rational person all required to indicate COVER-UP is the FACT that the DOD hasn't released any of the crash evidence! Black box or video!

[ecclesiastes35]

Brainless bullshit is your name. There was no plain. It's a criminal affair. 9/11 was an inside job.

[Audiovibe]

its people like you that will blindly follow anything - and not even take the time to investigate. can you massage bush's balls while your down there?

[jwboll]

I'm not even from the U.S. How do you know bush even has balls? You guys are really funny though. I enjoy the arguments!

[OperationMockingbird]

An A-3 Skywarrior hit the Pentagon.

[cicorp]

Major General Stubblebine obviously loves his country, and the Army. He is also a scientist, and not one to take half baked answers. It must have been very hard for him to against fellow officers and question "What's going on?" But he is a true American, going boldly after the truth.

[giftmitch]

Well I have no official credentials to speak of, but I could gather that on my own. I'll take it a step further and tell you it was a missile based on the photo I saw I'd say it was fired from a helicopter that was leaving the scene.

[MrCriticOfAll]

we were not even told about the black box at the pentagon.

[MrCriticOfAll]

Being in australia we are not as informed.But thats what we were told.Sorry

[KingdomAwaits]

Whats really weird is this guy also is one of the leaders of Psi-tech. The leading US company that researched and made American "non-lethal" weapons/mindcontrol. Seriously, look him up.

[jesusgrc1762]

By the way, making controlled crash tests, by the govt, is not what I would call a fair and balanced assesment of what happened. But it amazes me the lengths they and people like you will go to show demos of similar crashes. Almost like the magicians do when they want to distract you from what they're really doing.

[jesusgrc1762]

thecriticskorner:

The only reason people question what happened is simply because suspicious behavior draws attention to itself. Mainly, the confiscated videos. If there's really nothing to hide, why the secrecy? It's obvious, there IS something to hide. Period. Menwhile, you're just pissing in the wind.

[chunkkk]

theirs gotaa be mad people that saw this happen were the fuck are they at

[kokororyu]

He analyzes photos... What does that have to do with physics of a commercial plane flying 500+ mph into a a reinforced concrete structure!!! lets get physicists on here not fruit cakes that can state the obvious

[Tokelau85]

A former U.S Major General is not a fruit cake...

[jesusgrc1762]

Actions speak louder than words and confiscating the videos (hotel, gas station and DMV) demonstrated an obvious attempt to hide something.

[jesusgrc1762]

Actions speak louder than words. If it happened like they said it did, the videos would have backed it up, right? Why the need to confiscate them? To this date, no one from govt has answered that one. Thus the need to continue this dialogue.

[mmcclosk]

videos are constantly confiscated for investigations and never released. Your scaring people with one fact and then building a story off of it. I wish you the best of luck at proving nothing.

[jesusgrc1762]

All i'm saying is, they release a few seconds of video that proved nothing. It showed a blur and an explosion. Yet they won't release the other 3, where i'm sure showed something. What would be the point to withhold the others?? To put this to rest once and for all!!

[mmcclosk]

They didn't realease it, a watchdog legal group had it legally released. It's more of a professional thing, then anything.

[jesusgrc1762]

Aren't you the least bit curious?? the DMV video would have capture something for sure, since it's focused on the highway area.

[PopsMcKracken]

unreelut: your'e a jerk-off. I'm sure your opinion holds so much more weight than a Major General in the Army who's job it was to analyze this sort of data.

[filthycore]

a fart?

[Pkr]

yellow cab?

[skivosa]

There are plenty of witnesses who say they saw a smaller plane...I have had this debate with anther guy and his source showed that its about half and half.

Have you seen the flight data recorder animation? It is not correct - pilotsfor911truth dot org reviews it.

[mmcclosk]

How many pilots are in the United States? Now, subtract from that number the number of pilots on pilotsfor911truth. Now tell me who has the majority. Just because SOME pilots believe your side, doesn't make it right. Furthermore, I would love to see the witnesses who claim to have seen a smaller plane.

[skivosa]

Did you look at the video?

How do you come to the conclusion that just because they haven't come out in the open(for guys like you to ridicule), that they are on the other side.

And where do you find the hundreds that say it was a 757?

[skivosa]

This viseo has a few eyewitnesses quotes along with plenty other interesting observations:

http://www dot youtube dot com/watch?v=EBELb4tQUGs

[mmcclosk]

why are my comments constantly dissapearing?

[skivosa]

It amazes me how many people will jump right into UFOs if it suits their point of view.

Think about it. If he tells you that 2+2=4, are you going to say he can't be trusted because he is into UFOs, or would you check his math first?

[mmcclosk]

Problem is, that's not what he tells us. He tells us that somehow he KNOWS it wasn't a 757. I suppose he is also an expert in the response of aluminum to hitting a solid, reinforced wall at 500 MPH's? As proven earlier, the man will believe anything that is controversial and will get him attention. As was also proven, he has a very big axe to grind with Bush.

[skivosa]

The wings will make a mark on the outside of the wall wether they break up or not.

You are speculating and reaching - "As proven earlier, the man will believe anything that is controversial and will get him attention."

[mmcclosk]

Why else would the man be on a documentary about 9/11? It is not his expertise to say whether a 757 hit the Pentagon or not! It totally ignores the 100's of witnesses who saw it, and the debris that was all over. Don't tell me it was planted either, because those same 100's of witnesses would have seen that too.

[skivosa]

It is his expertise to measure objects from video and photographs...thats what he is commenting on.

And I don't think you appreciate the size of a 757...little pieces here and there does not represent a plane of that size. Period.

You need to step outside your comfort zone and really look at the damage and debris, or the lack there of.

[jesusgrc1762]

Totoally on the mark!!! everyone just went along as soon as they were shown a few small pieces of debris. I wondered, where is the rest of the plane. Like the tail, wings, etc. They didn't compress and fit in the small round hole, that much I know.

[thecriticskorner]

jesusgrc1762... why is it that nobody can accept the fact that any object traveling almost 500 miles an hour smashing into concrete is not going to be pretty much Atomized at impact, take a look at the video on my page "F-4 Phantom at 500mph into concrete barrier"

[jesusgrc1762]

Funny how your F-4 Fanthom vid looks nothing like the Pentagon vid on impact. First, there is a giant orange fireball almost before impact on the Pent vid. All i saw on yours was scattered cloud of pulverized concrete. Second, Pent vid showed no damage to surrounding windows where wings hit. Plus your vid has a large slab where as Pentagon had varying architecture. Third, pent plane went straight through to other side of section. Otherwise, good apples to oranges comparison.

[Galanttttt]

Well, I saw the video of the fighter jet which is no where near the size of commerical jumbo jet hiting that reinforced concrete wall. In comparison that reinforced concrete wall is nothing compared to a office or residental building make of sheet rock, wood, and maybe about 3 to 4 inches thick of brick with large hollow opening so people can walk around. but I guess it makes. Lets not forget women in the video cleary said the was is designed to absorb such an impact.

[Vierotchka]

If the alleged 757 that crashed into the pentagon was pretty much atomized, how come they recovered over 100 practically intact bodies?

[skivosa]

And one good reason to speak out would be because he is a patriot who sees an injustice to his country...he's not the only one you know.

patriotsquestion911 dot com has a long list of perfectly sane doubters of the official conspiracy theory.

[wadde]

and aboveyouhead we should trust an anecdotal account of the general's credibility because...?

[websuspect]

If da Plane dont fit we must aquit.

[mrkeogh]

Stubblebine, US Army (Retd.) is a complete joker. As far as I can remember the Air Force and later the National Reconnaissance Office were in charge of interpreting satellite and other imagery not Stubblebine. This guy was in charge of the 'Stargate' program...which was primarily remote viewing and psychic spies. His program was axed by the Bush Snr. administration...Hmmm I'd say he has an axe to grind, wouldn't you?

[gab00n]

I think i'll trust a person like the general who is qualified to make such statements rather than a young inexperienced person like yourself. If you are so smart why don't you prove that a plane hit the pentagon and left such tiny holes throughout the building? I can prove it didn't so it should be no problem for you.

[steve00020]

Did anyone do any research on this guy? I did. He and his ufologist wife (she studies UFO's) have established a UFO/parapsychology network in Europe. They like to try things like bending spoons with their minds. Not even joking...check it yourself.

[gab00n]

And that is supposed to mean what? He is still qualified to make such statements.  Looking at your favourite videos i can assume that you are a perv and have no credibility at all, but i choose to hold my judgement.

[CrunkChipmunk]

The Major is a true patriot for coming forward and exposing the lies of the NWO putting his life on the line in the process.

[maxuzi]

See what a Plane crash at 500 miles an hour looks like.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v­=dWpRGLrkIsw