@paramorebean they'd probably make something like...ford king cobra or chevy leader with the performance of a cobra in the chassis of a camaro or a KB supercharger in a camaro inspired engine wth the chassis of a mustang hahaha :D that car would own ALL!!!!
those turbo cobras are nasty, my friend has a helion turbo 03 and he can take my KB cobra from a roll every time by a few cars, thats why i like to go from a dig, to even things out
I've found a 99' Cobra with the 03-04 cobra body kit with 3.73's and flow 40's. It has 50k original miles and 10k miles on the rebuilt engine put in by ford!!! Things a beast and has a boost cooler attached. I'm working on selling my 15.3 second 96 gt for the 13.5 second cobra. Maybe even faster, they do 13.9 stock. With 3.73's and no cats i may be capable of mastering 13 flat!!!
Only shitty part is Z06 weighs a lot less than the Cobra, thats why it usually wins..BUT in the Financial department, Chevy loses and Ford wins hahaha
I belong to a mustang club (MY wtf moment) 01-04 zo6 price20,000 v-8 405hp 400tq 17mpg 0-60 4.0, 1/4mile 12.4 @ 116 curb weight 3,181. 2010 GT500 price 48,175 + 1000 gas guzzler tax weight-3950 540hp 510tq 14mpg 1/4mile 12.6 @ 114. Whats your opinion about this info? To me ford has failed to eclipse the 03-04 COBRA terminator now you can get a terminator for 18-30 grand worked and not beat on 03-04 cobras are the supras of america get one stock and put 1500 in it and you will own the gt500
well of course that tt cobra would smoke the gt500, twin turbo's are the best hp adder if you know what your doing. and he probably paid around the same in the long run
@trevinboy That's a stupid thing to say about a great car like the Camaro/ Trans Am. It would be like me saying "Mustangs are girls cars" when that's bullshit.
Yea it's pretty wild lol. I can't believe that car is faster than a car thats 55 grand.... Hell there almost as fast as the new corvette C6 thats also like 40 grand....
wtf first of all the stock cobra isnt faster than a stock Gt500 and second of all both of these cars stock will smoke the living fuck of a c6 shitvette any day any how
My CAI Cat back 04 Orange Cobra walks my brothers 08 Gt500 w/ CAI Cat back.. Underrated at 390 hp for the 03/04 Cobra(actually 420bhp), it comes down to better driving when comparing these two cars, the added weight of the GT500 is what what slows it down.. Both will be in the 12's down the 1320 stock if driven correctly.
to me ford failed with the gt500 they should have made the car lighter than the 03 04 cobra. but the engine of the 03 04 cobra is more responsive to mods
1. the 5.4 engine maybe a great engine but your driving it in a car that weighs as much as the ford svt lightening maybe a bit heavier. 2. The 03 04 cobra engine has been proven the 5.4 hasnt proven its self. 3. we can simply test a 4.3 engine of the 03-04 cobra and put a pully on it and see the hp difference compared to the 5.4 engine
the 03-04 has been dyno'd stcok and its anywhere between 350-404hp it veies because the engines were hand built. The gt500 engine was dyno'd stock and it was anywhere from 375-420 hp its in the mustang mags I habe of mustangs and fast fords dynoing the gt500 stock before they added mods to it. The 0304cobra is not the same engine as the mustang gt engines 4.6 I got many books on mustangs and magazines and a book on cobras alone I do my research before I start typing good day ::-)
Chad, you're misinformed in regards to stock 07 Shelby numbers. Generally they pull 425-440 hp. Where ever you read that GT500s were only pulling 375 on a dyno is sadly out of touch.
I read it in mustang mag mustang and super fast fords they put a new one 06 on dyno. plus you can see a few on you tube gt500 stock on dyno. I personaly think ford hasnt out done the 03-04 engine with the gt500 5.4 its not the engines fault its the curb weight just because its a muscle car doesnt mean it has to be heavy old rules its new times and new technologys
That would be a very smart move that you wouldnt regret. Plus look on craigslist cobras on there aree from 17grand to 25 in great condition. Take your time in looking around. With a few mods you could crack the heavens and make lambos and ferrari your bitch.
The only difference between the Cobra engines and the GT engines, are the 3/4Valve heads, and the built up bottom end. Its the same block, only the GT internals can only go up to about 500rwhp before having issues, Cobra internals can go well over 800 and be fine. Same block, different guts
the GTs of the 03-04 cobra era could only hold 450 hp but your pretty dead on I sold my mustang gt in hopes of getting a 03-04 COBRA I will settle for nothing less I got alot of revenge racing to do lol
Yeah in the mean time I was thinking about getting an 89-91 fox body mustang off of craigslist I found many already worked and with low miles for 3000-5000 grand that would eat an 05 and up mustang gt because the cars are only 2,700-2,900 lbs plus parts are cheap for them and you can easly fix them your self performance parts are really cheap for them to plus if you add a turbo or supercharger you will be running tens trust me its all I think about lmao
Unless youre in a 600+ hp blown and stroked vette against a cammed/bolton evo making under 400....awd means absolutely nothing then. Ask me how I know lol.
My facts are straight, awd is logical from street car stand point, I will give you that much, however if you plan on having a serious car to mess with it will be rwd. How many AWD race cars do you see? When is the last time a funny car, top fuel car,nascar,f1 car,or any type of on-road race car had awd?
Most definitely man! Im from the Perry Hall/White Marsh area, though. Yeah we probably do, do you ever go to Cosco's on sunday nights during the summer/spring or anything?
Never, and nor will they ever. Awd makes sense on the street due to the fact that the street is not perfect, it rains,there is potholes,slicks arent exactly the perfect all season tire, but if winning races is what your about, and hell you like having fun with your car RWD is the only way to go.
if youre comparing the new edge cobras and GTs then no its no the same. the GTs have 2 valves the cobra has 4. the block is also different the GT is cheap and the cobra's iron block used the same casting as the 01 cobra but instead of using aluminum they used iron for strength. The water jackets and the oil jackets are much larger. the cobra block can handle 1500hp while the GT more like maybe 800.
with a pulley set up and a tune wich is cheap the 03 cobra will easy take the vette and if you spend like 500 more on a ported blower and tune with your pulleys you spank the vetts ;) I love the terminators.
doesnt look like a gt5, only convertibles come with no stripes...but whatever, skateordie67, i cant even finda r on ebay for sale anymorelol sometimes they will pop up, last one was 55,000
Depends really, GT500 has an IRS which will give it the advantage from a dig. The termi's are very fast though for their time. In that type of race, stock vs stock, its really the driver.
actually theres a vid where they tested the 03 cobra vs the shelby 500 and the 03 cobra came out on top in the 1/4 mile...not by much but its a lil quicker. but yes its about the driver as well
I have to agree, the gt500 is nice ,but too much hype and weight, the 03-04 cobras really are great bang for your buck, cant forget the 2000 cobra r either
lets clear this up, the gt500 is the biggest waste that ford ever cooked up. with the new gen of muscle cars coming out(dodge, pontiac, chev) the 5.4 is useless along with its ridiculous weight. might as well wait to buy the 6.2 boss
id like to know the hp and torque specs on these cars and see wat numbers there runnning, to prov ur point. i have yet to see a gt500 beat a terminator yet anyhows
most gt5s are still near stock because they're much newer and more expensive than the 03/04 and owned by a completely different demographic than the cobras are. I've ran my full 'basic' bolt on 03 the same night as a pullied/intake/mail in tune/exhaust GT500 was running and we both ran within a couple of tenths of tenths and trap mph of each other. He can still buy a lower pulley and port his blower. GT500s can make damn near 600rwhp with the same mods I have @ 520rwhp. Hardly a waste....
if you call a 1000+hp OE rating of the factory internals then you dont know a good car when u see it. evolution performance has run high 8's with a TT-GT500 without even touching the internals
yeah but u need an auto tranny who wants to go through that 8 grand process i mean really. I do like the massive HP rating. quite badass to roll around with 850+whp on a stock engine :)
im not sure on the pricing but a built TH400 or 4R70W cant cost that much. art carr offers built C4's for a couple G's. but id rather bang thru the gears thru a built 6spd :)
The M112 isn't THAT bad. So far it's allowed me to embarrass Ferrari owners, Porsche owners, Vette owners, M3s, etc. But speaking in terms of KBs, Whipples and Prochargers, yes it's the weakest of the weak.
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You would have to twin turbo the GT500 to make that 4000lb piece of shit move any quicker. Ford finally got it right with the 03-04 Cobra's and then they turned around and made the GT500 with 100 more hp and it isn't much faster than the 03-04 Cobras stock. Shelby should have retired instead of sticking his name on that fuckup.
Not true at all they have other options for the GT500 called the SuperSnake packages that produce well over 750Rwhp which also viod warrenty, however you have no idea what your talking about.
I know exactly what I am talking about. As for your statement on the SuperSnake the package only goes to 725hp and that is not at the rear wheels. And yes it voids your warranty so unless you have deep pockets to fix whatever breaks who in their right mind would opt for that package. I notice my previous comment has thumbs down 4 times so that means there are at least 4 idiots who have viewed this video.
First of all it is 705hp....secondly what shop/dealer would ever warranty an engine with over 700hp? No one thats who. Also the sticker of the Shelby is only $42,500. You can get them sticker now if you look hard enough, so thats out the window. Also Shelby created the Cobra name himself way back in the day, look it up. You really ARE IGNORANT!! Also where and who was driving the GT500 because I have seen a dead bone stock with nitto drag RADIALS (not even slicks) run 11.9 dummy. How old are you
Check again dumbass its 725hp that is not under warranty. And I know about the Cobra name because I know that Shelby sued Ford when they tried to use the Cobra name on the 89 Anniversary stang. But Ford resurrected the Cobra in '93 and has been using it since then whereas Shelby hasn't done shit. If it wasn't for Ford there wouldn't be a Shelby considering other car companies turned him down in the 60's when he was shopping around for a car to build.
Actually I have a car on order, call Shelby in Vegas and they will tell you it is really 705...dumbass. There are actually two super snakes, one also with 600HP. They will be a collector car also because there will only be 1000 total build. Right now they are on #617 for the 2007. So there may be less than 1000 produced. I thought you said you saw them run in person...not in some magazine. Obviously the 03 was bone stock, my brother has a terminator. Before any mods he ran 12.6.
And also the GT500 was driven by Evan Smith of Muscle Mustangs and Fast Fords (if you are a fan of Mustangs then you know the magazine) so I didn't just pull that number out of my ass. And just to clue you in drag radials aren't really that much different than slicks besides that they are street legal. You can still launch a Shelby hard on drag radials dumbass so one on slicks won't run that much faster if any. And that Cobra I referred to ran his time bone stock on street tires.
What kind of car do you drive and have you ever driven at the track yourself?? Because slicks usually have a much wider sidewall along with a completely different compound to boot. The slicks usually have an M5 compound which is much different than a drag radial being an R2 compound. Also, most people use slicks because it is much more forgiving on the rear end in that there is not nearly as much shock to the suspension and drivetrain. why do professional racers run straight slicks????
But I believe its fitting that Shelby has his name on the GT500 because it doesn't deserve the Cobra name. And by the way I am 28 and have been in love and involved with Mustangs since I was 11 so I am not as ignorant as you claim.
It may have Cobra symbols on the car but it is not billed as a Cobra. And I've seen Shelby's run at the track and I have never seen one run close to a 12.2 so that is why I posted the magazine time for the Shelby just to be fair. My buddy owns the 04 Cobra that ran 12.47 stock so I can vouch for his time since I was there. And yes I have been racing since on the 1/4 since I was 16 so I've seen my fair share of cars run, stock and modified.
And just to clue you in on slicks and drag radials it doesn't make any sense to use full slicks on the Shelby since a drag radial is more than competent enough to handle the Shelby's power. Anybody who runs full slicks on a car running slower than 10's is wasting their time when a drag radial will easily hold up. So your buddy's 11.9 won't get any faster even if he runs full slicks dumbass.
And if Shelby is only producing 600hp and 705hp versions of the SS then they need to stop all the false advertising because in every magazine I've read and even on the Shelby site they claim the versions are 605hp and 725hp. But I guess since you were dumb enough to buy a GT500 in the first place then you won't be smart enough to catch that.
Now I am a Mustang fan and have been in numerous arguments defending the Mustang against its rivals. But just to prove my point when Chevy put 405hp in their 02-04 ZO6's Ford's 03-04 Cobra still ran close to the Vette. Then Ford introduces the 500hp GT500 and immediately gets its ass handed to it by the 505hp ZO6. Why? Because Ford decided to add 400 lbs. I have yet to see a stock GT500 outrun a stock 03-04 Cobra and they cost $20k more. I don't like Shelby that much.
ill agree the gt500 is a pig-but any car that goes low 12s bone stock(high 11s with slicks) i dont consider a "fuckup" but hey thats just me. also evolution put a full weight gt500 in the nines with nothing more than a blower swap.
Well when you consider that the 03-04 Cobra's ran mid 12's with 100 less horsepower and IRS and for almost half the price of a GT500 I consider that embarrassing. And don't think that a Cobra can't get into the 9's with the same mods as the Evolution GT500 cause it has been done. Like I said the GT500 just isn't worth the extra money when you can buy a stock 03-04 Cobra and with a good driver beat a GT500 stock for stock.
stock for stock an 03-04 is almost half a second off the gt500s times. the fastest 03-04 times are 12.6. the fastest gt500 are 12.1. add slicks and that gap only gets wider.
Best I've seen a stock 04 Cobra was a 12.47 and that was in person. The fastest I've seen a GT500 go was 12.2 and that was tested my MM&FF. Considering the 03-04 Cobra's costed only around $35K new and the Shelby's can go from $50k+ I really don't see the reason to spring for the Shelby. They are building too many of them for it to be a collector car in the future so thats out the window. I think I will stick with the real Cobra considering a Shelby isn't even considered a Cobra.
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25Celtics 6 months ago 2
two of Ford's greatest motors going at it! great cars
need2speed94 7 months ago
GT500 and 2004- are heavier than previous Mustangs...
adriank9 8 months ago
your camera looks like its high
golsonkp 9 months ago
Nice massive crack in the windshield....
coryboy345 10 months ago
hey camera guy nice windshield
xblackxbulllittx 11 months ago
that fucking cobra hauled ass
loveburningaway 11 months ago 2
lol fail there isnt a thing called a gt500 cobra
guitarpro48 1 year ago
damn the chase car was great. Nice video
wagner03mustang 1 year ago
id like to see ford give chevs an engine one day and let chevs make the car. together....who knows the poosibilities!
paramorebean 1 year ago
@paramorebean they'd probably make something like...ford king cobra or chevy leader with the performance of a cobra in the chassis of a camaro or a KB supercharger in a camaro inspired engine wth the chassis of a mustang hahaha :D that car would own ALL!!!!
rolliepollie94 1 year ago
@rolliepollie94 lol wud be awsomeeee!
sick of all the hating that goes on! join forces dammit! :P
paramorebean 1 year ago
my favorite part is the crack in the windshield :)
scrochy66 1 year ago
what is the chase car????
98montecarloz34 1 year ago
@98montecarloz34
He said a cammed camaro ss in the comments down the page
itsdamo1993 1 year ago
o nice it sounds bad ass! and it didn't do to bad!
98montecarloz34 1 year ago
those turbo cobras are nasty, my friend has a helion turbo 03 and he can take my KB cobra from a roll every time by a few cars, thats why i like to go from a dig, to even things out
magikstik8457 2 years ago
Til he goes auto or gets anti-lag, then it's all about traction lol
SupraQuin 2 years ago
ha ha whats the chase car? that shit had some balls
shauncharger 2 years ago 4
@shauncharger It was a cammed Camaro SS. See my other videos.
Jason
jawall1068 2 years ago
nice camaro!!!! pulls pretty good
shauncharger 2 years ago
TT FTW!!!!!!!!!!
CubanPaintballer 2 years ago 2
poor windshield
captivated22 2 years ago 2
it looks like the turbo is smokin but its just burnin rubber from powershifting
demonracer6 2 years ago
um no, thats from the turbo
drew276 2 years ago
@demonracer6 No it wasn't...the motor has some issues. It's now fixed. The car is running 9.3x @ 150mph now...
jawall1068 2 years ago
nice, wish i had me a cobra :)
demonracer6 2 years ago 4
why to turbo always smoke when shifting
mazda6tuner99 2 years ago
I drempt last night "SHELBY GT500 FXX" :3modes-full active400hp/400tq ,sport520hp/520tq ,race650hp/550tq, full active20/28mpg, sport14/22mpg. carbon fiber body, 3300lbs curb weight, kb supercharger, ford gt heads, 373 gears, feather light twin disc clutch, bietter dynamics, 220 mph odometer, Good year f1 tires 21inch rear, double intercooler, trans cooler, heads up display, trans&engine dianostic display, satillite radio, gps 0-60 3.1, 10's 1/2 mile.
chad121777 2 years ago
And it's at a dealer for $12,995
butanebird91 2 years ago
I've found a 99' Cobra with the 03-04 cobra body kit with 3.73's and flow 40's. It has 50k original miles and 10k miles on the rebuilt engine put in by ford!!! Things a beast and has a boost cooler attached. I'm working on selling my 15.3 second 96 gt for the 13.5 second cobra. Maybe even faster, they do 13.9 stock. With 3.73's and no cats i may be capable of mastering 13 flat!!!
butanebird91 2 years ago
cobra ftw
timmmmkay 2 years ago
Ford Mustang Cobra: 370 RWHP = 424 FWHP (factory spec 390)
Chevrolet Corvette Z06 (C5) 345 RWHP = 406 FWHP (factory spec 405)
ultratec66 2 years ago
Only shitty part is Z06 weighs a lot less than the Cobra, thats why it usually wins..BUT in the Financial department, Chevy loses and Ford wins hahaha
stratspider230 2 years ago
I belong to a mustang club (MY wtf moment) 01-04 zo6 price20,000 v-8 405hp 400tq 17mpg 0-60 4.0, 1/4mile 12.4 @ 116 curb weight 3,181. 2010 GT500 price 48,175 + 1000 gas guzzler tax weight-3950 540hp 510tq 14mpg 1/4mile 12.6 @ 114. Whats your opinion about this info? To me ford has failed to eclipse the 03-04 COBRA terminator now you can get a terminator for 18-30 grand worked and not beat on 03-04 cobras are the supras of america get one stock and put 1500 in it and you will own the gt500
chad121777 2 years ago
well of course that tt cobra would smoke the gt500, twin turbo's are the best hp adder if you know what your doing. and he probably paid around the same in the long run
rocky440 2 years ago
dang what are you driving... u kept up with them pretty damn good
speeddemon0712 2 years ago
had a tough time catching the cars in front of them there? Fail
IceAngelDeath 2 years ago
crack kills...
goeca 2 years ago
i was waiting for the corvette to com fling by
jonklepper 2 years ago
corvette isnt gonna fly by a kennebell or a tt cobra lol... unless you where talking about the chase car.
bluecapone 2 years ago
That's the unmistakeable redneck sound from a Camaro or Transam. Ugly as hell.
trevinboy 2 years ago 11
@trevinboy ya and u can suck it...just cuz chevy is better doesnt be u gotta be hatin
psykho15 1 year ago
@trevinboy That's a stupid thing to say about a great car like the Camaro/ Trans Am. It would be like me saying "Mustangs are girls cars" when that's bullshit.
elr456 10 months ago 2
that cobra is smoking....That crack has gotta go..
knowitall1975 2 years ago
It a turbo car. All turbo cars smoke at full throttle. Hot presurized burt fuel does that.
burgiebird 2 years ago 4
you're absolutly right but that smoke looked blue to me... might be the begining of the end
rhrhllc 2 years ago
oil in the exhaust
r0llindubs 2 years ago
i missed the race i was too busy lookin @ crack
sconnors11 2 years ago
TT DAMN
LRDubya 2 years ago 2
instead of wasting money on perfomance why dont u get your windsheild fixed
srt4crazy250 2 years ago
GT500 driver CANNOT drive! Don't take it as an assumption, be he didn't even try?! If he only did, it would be a great video.
psncoolpj 3 years ago
how can u say that??? Twin turbo vs gt500...thats like an extra 300 HP depending on what boost he has in it.
joeyott24 2 years ago 2
A stock cobra beats a stock GT500 anyways. This video isn't a surprise but just watching two great cars race. Gotta love Ford
biddyhound 2 years ago
Yea it's pretty wild lol. I can't believe that car is faster than a car thats 55 grand.... Hell there almost as fast as the new corvette C6 thats also like 40 grand....
GMMGJethot 2 years ago
wtf first of all the stock cobra isnt faster than a stock Gt500 and second of all both of these cars stock will smoke the living fuck of a c6 shitvette any day any how
00Stangpede 2 years ago 4
My CAI Cat back 04 Orange Cobra walks my brothers 08 Gt500 w/ CAI Cat back.. Underrated at 390 hp for the 03/04 Cobra(actually 420bhp), it comes down to better driving when comparing these two cars, the added weight of the GT500 is what what slows it down.. Both will be in the 12's down the 1320 stock if driven correctly.
ultratec66 2 years ago
to me ford failed with the gt500 they should have made the car lighter than the 03 04 cobra. but the engine of the 03 04 cobra is more responsive to mods
chad121777 2 years ago
So chad, care to post how exactly a 4.6 is more responsive to said adds then the 5.4. Again 4.6 over 5.4 really? Right...
myrez99 2 years ago
1. the 5.4 engine maybe a great engine but your driving it in a car that weighs as much as the ford svt lightening maybe a bit heavier. 2. The 03 04 cobra engine has been proven the 5.4 hasnt proven its self. 3. we can simply test a 4.3 engine of the 03-04 cobra and put a pully on it and see the hp difference compared to the 5.4 engine
chad121777 2 years ago
the 03-04 has been dyno'd stcok and its anywhere between 350-404hp it veies because the engines were hand built. The gt500 engine was dyno'd stock and it was anywhere from 375-420 hp its in the mustang mags I habe of mustangs and fast fords dynoing the gt500 stock before they added mods to it. The 0304cobra is not the same engine as the mustang gt engines 4.6 I got many books on mustangs and magazines and a book on cobras alone I do my research before I start typing good day ::-)
chad121777 2 years ago
Chad, you're misinformed in regards to stock 07 Shelby numbers. Generally they pull 425-440 hp. Where ever you read that GT500s were only pulling 375 on a dyno is sadly out of touch.
myrez99 2 years ago
I read it in mustang mag mustang and super fast fords they put a new one 06 on dyno. plus you can see a few on you tube gt500 stock on dyno. I personaly think ford hasnt out done the 03-04 engine with the gt500 5.4 its not the engines fault its the curb weight just because its a muscle car doesnt mean it has to be heavy old rules its new times and new technologys
chad121777 2 years ago
say chad,
I have an 07 GT paid with just tune and KN.
I wanna sell it for a 03 04 Cobra. You think I should? I always loved Cobras.
They are pretty cheap, I seen one in AutoTrader for about 25k.
XxBulletSaintxX 2 years ago
That would be a very smart move that you wouldnt regret. Plus look on craigslist cobras on there aree from 17grand to 25 in great condition. Take your time in looking around. With a few mods you could crack the heavens and make lambos and ferrari your bitch.
chad121777 2 years ago
The only difference between the Cobra engines and the GT engines, are the 3/4Valve heads, and the built up bottom end. Its the same block, only the GT internals can only go up to about 500rwhp before having issues, Cobra internals can go well over 800 and be fine. Same block, different guts
stratspider230 2 years ago
the GTs of the 03-04 cobra era could only hold 450 hp but your pretty dead on I sold my mustang gt in hopes of getting a 03-04 COBRA I will settle for nothing less I got alot of revenge racing to do lol
chad121777 2 years ago
Haha I hear you man. I cant wait to get mine, Ill settle for any Mustang V8. Ill build that shit up myself, I dont care. Just want one
stratspider230 2 years ago
Yeah in the mean time I was thinking about getting an 89-91 fox body mustang off of craigslist I found many already worked and with low miles for 3000-5000 grand that would eat an 05 and up mustang gt because the cars are only 2,700-2,900 lbs plus parts are cheap for them and you can easly fix them your self performance parts are really cheap for them to plus if you add a turbo or supercharger you will be running tens trust me its all I think about lmao
chad121777 2 years ago
+1 chad1217777. i love my GT its so clean and fun to drive... but i got alot of peoples asses to kick... all these STI's and shit kicking my ass...
ITRIEDEL 2 years ago
We will have our revenge lmao
chad121777 2 years ago
im prolly not doing you any good by running a gt35r STi then.... haha, goodluck :)
feralboy816 2 years ago
haha one day I will have my revenge... not any time soon...but one day :D
ITRIEDEL 2 years ago
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AWD OWNS RWD sorry...
XxAtomic646xX 2 years ago
Unless youre in a 600+ hp blown and stroked vette against a cammed/bolton evo making under 400....awd means absolutely nothing then. Ask me how I know lol.
Bewstjunki 2 years ago
other way around sorry......
BMOREcobra 2 years ago
um.. get your facts straight before you talk.
XxAtomic646xX 2 years ago
My facts are straight, awd is logical from street car stand point, I will give you that much, however if you plan on having a serious car to mess with it will be rwd. How many AWD race cars do you see? When is the last time a funny car, top fuel car,nascar,f1 car,or any type of on-road race car had awd?
BMOREcobra 2 years ago 17
Since this is a street race video I'm obviously talking about street racing -_-
XxAtomic646xX 2 years ago
Obviously nothing is going to stop anybody from putting slicks on their car and driving it on the street......while street racing.
BMOREcobra 2 years ago
you from baltimore md?
BLACKLACDTS 2 years ago
Hell yeah man!!!
BMOREcobra 2 years ago
me 2!! im from the canton highland town area, where you at? you play around on the street? we might know some of the same people
BLACKLACDTS 2 years ago
Most definitely man! Im from the Perry Hall/White Marsh area, though. Yeah we probably do, do you ever go to Cosco's on sunday nights during the summer/spring or anything?
BMOREcobra 2 years ago
@BMOREcobra ...What a true statement. Hats off to you good sir.
veritech102 11 months ago
@BMOREcobra
i agree, for asphalt racing, rear wheel drive is the way to go, and thats what people use as well ,)
FordSierraIS 10 months ago
Never, and nor will they ever. Awd makes sense on the street due to the fact that the street is not perfect, it rains,there is potholes,slicks arent exactly the perfect all season tire, but if winning races is what your about, and hell you like having fun with your car RWD is the only way to go.
BMOREcobra 2 years ago 2
yeah right off the line but after that and up on the highway its all about RWD
dvon88 2 years ago
Along with the built up bottom are forged Manely H-Beam connecting rods, ARP bolts, forged aluminum pistons, different cams and cam profiles.
ultratec66 2 years ago
I wasnt gonna go into THAT much detail but alright -_- lol
stratspider230 2 years ago
if youre comparing the new edge cobras and GTs then no its no the same. the GTs have 2 valves the cobra has 4. the block is also different the GT is cheap and the cobra's iron block used the same casting as the 01 cobra but instead of using aluminum they used iron for strength. The water jackets and the oil jackets are much larger. the cobra block can handle 1500hp while the GT more like maybe 800.
thehowl666 2 years ago
actually a stock 03-04 cobra is faster than a gt500 man =p
sad to say.
its a drivers race for sure, but i've seen 03 cobras stock beat shelby's stock.
94OJGT 2 years ago 2
with a pulley set up and a tune wich is cheap the 03 cobra will easy take the vette and if you spend like 500 more on a ported blower and tune with your pulleys you spank the vetts ;) I love the terminators.
bluecapone 2 years ago 2
Yea i love em to man... so easy to get 400rwhp with em....
GMMGJethot 2 years ago
shit I love the 03 04 cobra you get 400 hp off of pullys alone
chad121777 2 years ago
It has over 400, stock....... Another, 70HP is easy with a pulley change..
ultratec66 2 years ago
390 at the flywheel stock...
cdesha 2 years ago
No, they were underrated at 390 from the factory intentionally. BHP is approximately 420.
As I said before, a pulley and tune and your over 500HP.. Thats a 3" pulley and safe tune
ultratec66 2 years ago
is that a big ass crack going across your windshield?
Pannel12 3 years ago
Cobra > GT500
acetheheretic 3 years ago 12
any day of the week!
jackfrost281 3 years ago
he spun 1st-4th and still beat the gt500
jamaicanleprekan 3 years ago
I hate video's with a freaking chase car...so freaking silly.
knowitall1975 3 years ago
haha what is shelby thinking messing with a terminator!
jackfrost281 3 years ago 4
nice crack in the windshield lol
svtcobra1992 3 years ago
dude he juz smoked his tyres on every shift, what kind of power iz dat??!! i mean dat machine is over 700 horses for sure!!!
bigdash86 3 years ago
that wasnt tire smoke ..
THESNAKE8 3 years ago 2
Turbo's are naughty for smoke
gguuiittoo 3 years ago
no shit
THESNAKE8 3 years ago
damn that tt cobra was smokin the tires on every shift! thats scary
Txpsd9673 3 years ago
Think it might have come out of the exhaust.
TheMrRichard 3 years ago 2
Yea, you can tell the first puff of smoke was the tires, hence the marks it left...
the rest is exhaust
xlayedlowx 3 years ago
Didn't see any lines :-\
TheMrRichard 3 years ago
doesnt look like a gt5, only convertibles come with no stripes...but whatever, skateordie67, i cant even finda r on ebay for sale anymorelol sometimes they will pop up, last one was 55,000
donnie249 3 years ago
definitely a gt500...I talked to the guy for like 20 minutes after the races and checked out the car... Very nice car.
jawall1068 3 years ago
stock vs stock the gt500 is a faster car. look up the specs from motortrend or car and driver
x1boomer 3 years ago
Stock for stock I would hope the GT500 would be faster- it only weighs 200 lbs more but outdoes the termi by 100 hp.
mach1usmc 3 years ago
yea hopefully the gt500kr beats the termi. termis are baaad ass they have like a very catchy look
mickster026 3 years ago
Depends really, GT500 has an IRS which will give it the advantage from a dig. The termi's are very fast though for their time. In that type of race, stock vs stock, its really the driver.
gguuiittoo 3 years ago
gt 500 has solid rear terminator has irs
xxlsvfootball 3 years ago 2
not to mention solid rears are better from a dig!
sny714 3 years ago
actually theres a vid where they tested the 03 cobra vs the shelby 500 and the 03 cobra came out on top in the 1/4 mile...not by much but its a lil quicker. but yes its about the driver as well
shelbZcobra 3 years ago
I have to agree, the gt500 is nice ,but too much hype and weight, the 03-04 cobras really are great bang for your buck, cant forget the 2000 cobra r either
donnie249 3 years ago
yeah but good luck finding a 2000 cobra r. :) those things are worth some COIN now my friend.
SkAtEOrDie67 3 years ago
One on ebay now ;), #20
gguuiittoo 3 years ago
The 2003 Cobra is the fastest Mustang ever built!! It always smokes everything it races
buckwheat40 3 years ago 3
Fords best invention for sure
Libblelabble 3 years ago
its a great car for the power gained so easily no quarelles there but againest its rival a c6 z06, its a joke.
praetorian2150 3 years ago
most cars are. apples to oranges my friend....
xxMBH427xx 3 years ago 2
lets clear this up, the gt500 is the biggest waste that ford ever cooked up. with the new gen of muscle cars coming out(dodge, pontiac, chev) the 5.4 is useless along with its ridiculous weight. might as well wait to buy the 6.2 boss
praetorian2150 3 years ago
mod for mod it makes more power than the 03/04, enough to make up for the weight it gained... what are you talking about?
xxMBH427xx 3 years ago
id like to know the hp and torque specs on these cars and see wat numbers there runnning, to prov ur point. i have yet to see a gt500 beat a terminator yet anyhows
praetorian2150 3 years ago
most gt5s are still near stock because they're much newer and more expensive than the 03/04 and owned by a completely different demographic than the cobras are. I've ran my full 'basic' bolt on 03 the same night as a pullied/intake/mail in tune/exhaust GT500 was running and we both ran within a couple of tenths of tenths and trap mph of each other. He can still buy a lower pulley and port his blower. GT500s can make damn near 600rwhp with the same mods I have @ 520rwhp. Hardly a waste....
xxMBH427xx 3 years ago
precision went 9s with just a blower swap-hardly useless.
304teddy 3 years ago
if you call a 1000+hp OE rating of the factory internals then you dont know a good car when u see it. evolution performance has run high 8's with a TT-GT500 without even touching the internals
seniorcat03 3 years ago
yeah but u need an auto tranny who wants to go through that 8 grand process i mean really. I do like the massive HP rating. quite badass to roll around with 850+whp on a stock engine :)
praetorian2150 3 years ago
im not sure on the pricing but a built TH400 or 4R70W cant cost that much. art carr offers built C4's for a couple G's. but id rather bang thru the gears thru a built 6spd :)
seniorcat03 3 years ago
the price of a 4r70w instaled on a 03 cobra goes about 5 grand
00Stangpede 2 years ago
fuck no it wont beat the cobra dude cause its heavier.... look at the gt 500 vs cobra and youll see
gtsaleencobramustang 3 years ago
a shelby will kill a cobra stock vs stock
camirocz 3 years ago
Seems like a pretty fast chase car, is it a SS?
BLOWNSST 3 years ago
what happened to the windshield?
triplet85 3 years ago
Damn, all three of those cars are fast but the TT Termi is screaming. Glad to hear he fixed his oil problem.
The factory terminator has an Eaton blower. Inefficient roots-type. That's the first thing to come off of an SVT vehicle.
rrtx2007 3 years ago
Not peeling out, he's blowing oil past his turbo seals. That turbo is probably not long for this world.
marcuskeeler 3 years ago
Valve seals, they have since been replaced...
jawall1068 3 years ago
y would anyone twin turbo a cobra when its factory supercharged....
chevytillthedayidie 3 years ago
on 10 psi that car is faster than it was on 19psi on the factory blower...Plus there is a lot more potential.
jawall1068 3 years ago
19psi on the factory blower? you mean 9 for the gt500 right?
zachypoop 3 years ago
that eaton m112 sc is the weakest of the weakest of superchargers.
Libblelabble 3 years ago
The M112 isn't THAT bad. So far it's allowed me to embarrass Ferrari owners, Porsche owners, Vette owners, M3s, etc. But speaking in terms of KBs, Whipples and Prochargers, yes it's the weakest of the weak.
Bret03Cobra 3 years ago 2
because a turbo provides a lot more power and the roots type supercharger is inneficcient and underpowered, the GT500 could be so much more.
OJIMMY92 3 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
You would have to twin turbo the GT500 to make that 4000lb piece of shit move any quicker. Ford finally got it right with the 03-04 Cobra's and then they turned around and made the GT500 with 100 more hp and it isn't much faster than the 03-04 Cobras stock. Shelby should have retired instead of sticking his name on that fuckup.
StandardRacing 3 years ago
Not true at all they have other options for the GT500 called the SuperSnake packages that produce well over 750Rwhp which also viod warrenty, however you have no idea what your talking about.
mustangwner2003V6 3 years ago
I know exactly what I am talking about. As for your statement on the SuperSnake the package only goes to 725hp and that is not at the rear wheels. And yes it voids your warranty so unless you have deep pockets to fix whatever breaks who in their right mind would opt for that package. I notice my previous comment has thumbs down 4 times so that means there are at least 4 idiots who have viewed this video.
StandardRacing 3 years ago
First of all it is 705hp....secondly what shop/dealer would ever warranty an engine with over 700hp? No one thats who. Also the sticker of the Shelby is only $42,500. You can get them sticker now if you look hard enough, so thats out the window. Also Shelby created the Cobra name himself way back in the day, look it up. You really ARE IGNORANT!! Also where and who was driving the GT500 because I have seen a dead bone stock with nitto drag RADIALS (not even slicks) run 11.9 dummy. How old are you
dprince888 3 years ago
Check again dumbass its 725hp that is not under warranty. And I know about the Cobra name because I know that Shelby sued Ford when they tried to use the Cobra name on the 89 Anniversary stang. But Ford resurrected the Cobra in '93 and has been using it since then whereas Shelby hasn't done shit. If it wasn't for Ford there wouldn't be a Shelby considering other car companies turned him down in the 60's when he was shopping around for a car to build.
StandardRacing 3 years ago
Actually I have a car on order, call Shelby in Vegas and they will tell you it is really 705...dumbass. There are actually two super snakes, one also with 600HP. They will be a collector car also because there will only be 1000 total build. Right now they are on #617 for the 2007. So there may be less than 1000 produced. I thought you said you saw them run in person...not in some magazine. Obviously the 03 was bone stock, my brother has a terminator. Before any mods he ran 12.6.
dprince888 3 years ago
It IS 725 HP.
mooney4prez 3 years ago
Thats what I was trying to explain to that dumbass I was arguing with.
StandardRacing 3 years ago
And also the GT500 was driven by Evan Smith of Muscle Mustangs and Fast Fords (if you are a fan of Mustangs then you know the magazine) so I didn't just pull that number out of my ass. And just to clue you in drag radials aren't really that much different than slicks besides that they are street legal. You can still launch a Shelby hard on drag radials dumbass so one on slicks won't run that much faster if any. And that Cobra I referred to ran his time bone stock on street tires.
StandardRacing 3 years ago
What kind of car do you drive and have you ever driven at the track yourself?? Because slicks usually have a much wider sidewall along with a completely different compound to boot. The slicks usually have an M5 compound which is much different than a drag radial being an R2 compound. Also, most people use slicks because it is much more forgiving on the rear end in that there is not nearly as much shock to the suspension and drivetrain. why do professional racers run straight slicks????
dprince888 3 years ago
But I believe its fitting that Shelby has his name on the GT500 because it doesn't deserve the Cobra name. And by the way I am 28 and have been in love and involved with Mustangs since I was 11 so I am not as ignorant as you claim.
StandardRacing 3 years ago
Hve you seen the side of the car.....HUGE COBRA BRO. It looks great and SHELBY is a racing GOD dummy.
dprince888 3 years ago
It may have Cobra symbols on the car but it is not billed as a Cobra. And I've seen Shelby's run at the track and I have never seen one run close to a 12.2 so that is why I posted the magazine time for the Shelby just to be fair. My buddy owns the 04 Cobra that ran 12.47 stock so I can vouch for his time since I was there. And yes I have been racing since on the 1/4 since I was 16 so I've seen my fair share of cars run, stock and modified.
StandardRacing 3 years ago
And just to clue you in on slicks and drag radials it doesn't make any sense to use full slicks on the Shelby since a drag radial is more than competent enough to handle the Shelby's power. Anybody who runs full slicks on a car running slower than 10's is wasting their time when a drag radial will easily hold up. So your buddy's 11.9 won't get any faster even if he runs full slicks dumbass.
StandardRacing 3 years ago
And if Shelby is only producing 600hp and 705hp versions of the SS then they need to stop all the false advertising because in every magazine I've read and even on the Shelby site they claim the versions are 605hp and 725hp. But I guess since you were dumb enough to buy a GT500 in the first place then you won't be smart enough to catch that.
StandardRacing 3 years ago
Now I am a Mustang fan and have been in numerous arguments defending the Mustang against its rivals. But just to prove my point when Chevy put 405hp in their 02-04 ZO6's Ford's 03-04 Cobra still ran close to the Vette. Then Ford introduces the 500hp GT500 and immediately gets its ass handed to it by the 505hp ZO6. Why? Because Ford decided to add 400 lbs. I have yet to see a stock GT500 outrun a stock 03-04 Cobra and they cost $20k more. I don't like Shelby that much.
StandardRacing 3 years ago
ill agree the gt500 is a pig-but any car that goes low 12s bone stock(high 11s with slicks) i dont consider a "fuckup" but hey thats just me. also evolution put a full weight gt500 in the nines with nothing more than a blower swap.
304teddy 3 years ago
Well when you consider that the 03-04 Cobra's ran mid 12's with 100 less horsepower and IRS and for almost half the price of a GT500 I consider that embarrassing. And don't think that a Cobra can't get into the 9's with the same mods as the Evolution GT500 cause it has been done. Like I said the GT500 just isn't worth the extra money when you can buy a stock 03-04 Cobra and with a good driver beat a GT500 stock for stock.
StandardRacing 3 years ago
stock for stock an 03-04 is almost half a second off the gt500s times. the fastest 03-04 times are 12.6. the fastest gt500 are 12.1. add slicks and that gap only gets wider.
304teddy 3 years ago
Best I've seen a stock 04 Cobra was a 12.47 and that was in person. The fastest I've seen a GT500 go was 12.2 and that was tested my MM&FF. Considering the 03-04 Cobra's costed only around $35K new and the Shelby's can go from $50k+ I really don't see the reason to spring for the Shelby. They are building too many of them for it to be a collector car in the future so thats out the window. I think I will stick with the real Cobra considering a Shelby isn't even considered a Cobra.
StandardRacing 3 years ago
dang!
that was insanely fast
all pretty scary.
i woulda been peeing myself as the cobra was peeling out in eaach gear
i love it
props to all
=]
87mustangguy 3 years ago
idk if it's just me, but it almost looks like the tt cobra is pealing out every shift
dah5096 3 years ago
True... any info about the boost in that cobra? couse it looked like 20+psi
T04E 3 years ago
18psi...twin turbo cobra.
jawall1068 3 years ago
lol...cya
CJDUBstang 3 years ago 3