How to use electrolysis for rust removal

[denzlepob]

Good effort

[HartzerSociety]

I had a pile of old coins up in the attic, using this video I've managed to clean them up beautifully.Thanks very much.

[57silver]

I tried this and my battery charger gave up after 5 mins

[GodsMan500]

Why would you keep this video up when many people have told you that using stainless steel is highly dangerous?

[wickedmessenger1]

@GodsMan500 I have a note in the video saying not to use SS. I have numerous comments that anyone can read saying not to use SS. The video is instructional and many people have thanked me for it. Please send me a link to your video about electrolysis so I can see how it's done.

[XxSURPRESSEDxX]

btw never use stainless steel...its solution is just about as poison-is as lead 

[GinoJerry86]

Can I use this process to clean aluminum?

[wickedmessenger1]

@GinoJerry86 Ferrous metals only. In other words: no.

[vodoocult]

can i use my arc welder instead of a battery charger? Its about 60-180A

[wickedmessenger1]

@vodoocult Sounds like too much: arcing combined with hydrogen gas -- an explosive combination!

[330MillionGods]

Conversly, if this is done for unrusted metal, will it rust it ?

[garywithairp1]

tankyo ui love your video , thank you so much

[wickedmessenger1]

@endlesspeaceful You should see something on the amp gage. You should also see bubbles forming and flowing from your rusty piece. If not, there are some possible problems: your clamps aren't making a good electrical connection to the piece or annode, the two aren't close enough together, at some point you overloaded the charger and its circuit breaker needs resetting, your electrolyte isn't mixed in the right proportion, etc. Check to see that the charger is producing 12v with a meter.

[parrowman]

DONT DO THIS INDOORS!! the gases are harmful!

[hambone155]

try coca cola? does about the same thing.

[ILOVEFIATBRAVA]

for the final proces you can use coca cola it works better

[badderthanyou]

What amp setting do you recommend?

[wickedmessenger1]

@badderthanyou You set the volts and the amps are what they are. The closer the anode to the piece, the higher the amps. You can control amps by position of the piece.

[badderthanyou]

@wickedmessenger1 Ok, my charger has 2am, 4amp and 6 amp settings, as well at 12v or 6v. 

[wickedmessenger1]

@badderthanyou More power means faster rust removal. Set for 12v and max amps.

[badderthanyou]

@wickedmessenger1 Perfect, thanks!

[themediawrangler]

@wickedmessenger1 As long as you have the right mix of electrolytes you don't have to worry about getting the anode super close. This is important because if the anode touches the part (cathode) that you are de-rusting then the circuit will short out.

[The1CheezIt]

Thank you! I've been trying to take rust off of a peice of art that someone gave to me to restore and repaint and the rust on it is just terrible!! This video is so detailed that I could easily take notes!

[shrimpinpat]

Please thumbs up this safety warning*** DO NOT USE STAINLESS STEEL THE RESULT OF THE CHEMICAL BREAK DOWN IN STAINLESS STEEEL IS TOXIC AND ILLEGAL TO DUMP. SECONDLY THIS PROCESS CREATES hydrogen which is lighter than air and more flammable than oxygen "hydrogen bombs" so do this outside in an open area. Keep the power source dry . Just remember hydrogen is highly explosive "look up the Hindenburg if you don't know the dangers" Be smart use goggles do more research this guy is way wrong I'm n

[spelunkerd]

What's the difference between washing soda and baking soda?

[pumkinvine]

@spelunkerd Washing soda is sodium carbonate, baking soda is sodium bicarbonate. Anything that makes the water alkaline (which makes the water a better conductor) will work to varying degrees.

[spelunkerd]

Can you explain the formula for the electrochemical reaction?

[wickedmessenger1]

This only works on ferrous metals, i.e. iron and its alloys, not non-ferrous metals like aluminum, brass, copper, etc.

[NISMOfanseattle]

can i do this on aluminum like an aluminum head off a car motor?

[imtzklol]

Don't need for complex electrodes. Use a double-edged pencil

[gbowne1]

Yep.. Hexavalent Chromium. See the erin brockvich movie.

[dynodon427]

Great video! I'm cleaning a rusty part now. It works great

[savage464646]

oh my god that takes way to long man dip that sucker in some muratic acid for 10-15 min

[domokid]

You should mention hydrogen embrittlment



[vox1philippines]

nice....

[h2oreactor]

Hi,  doesn't Rust Remover that you can buy from Home Improvement not any good? Need to remove rust later. Please advise. Thanks.

[wayne115]

another trick is after you take it out and its covered completely in the black oxide soak it in cola (pepsi coke) for a couple hours it will come out clean as a whistle

[MarillionDeVoid]

and don't weld galvanized steel or iron unless you want a lungful or white wispy feathery zinc oxide

[MarillionDeVoid]

OMG Never use table salt as your electrolyte! You sill inadvertently create Chlorine gas which if you breathe it will turn into hydrochloric acid in your lugs and you will end up digesting your lungs (acid breakdown) and omg omg omg Stainless steel Omg omgomgomg

[richcollins513]

In the guys defense that made this video I would like to point out that SS304 and SS316 is inert to Hydrogen, Oxygen, and the combination of the two being Water. Since all you know soooooo much about electrolysis you should join the Meyer Research Group at HHOINFO's website and help us in our attempts to replicate Stanley Meyers work. You tube "It runs on water" if you don't know about Stan Meyer.

[utoobube]

...does anyone have any of this chromium cocktail I keep hearing of? ......Im kinda thirsty! Im with the messenger, I want proof...short of doing it myself and taking a sample to the lab, I would like to see any existing lab results.

[GrandAdmiralForrest]

Dude.. do not use stainless steel.. wtf.  Stop killing the planet and its panda bears.

[pashlit]

Will it also destroy any paint on parts that are still good and not rusted?

[hlpsg]

Hey thanks for this video! Does it work for aluminum parts?

[Customizurs]

@hlpsg aluminum does not rust it oxidizes. You can make a "Media Blaster" using a regular airgun some clear rubber tube and a box of baking soda. search around for the instructional. It works great for aluminum ox. and you just have to rinse with warm water to clean.

[DrifterB2W]

@Customizurs Rust is just a term to refer to red OXIDIZED steel/iron.. iron oxide..ferric oxide.

[netjem]

I like your video but the electrolysis method does require such ridged measurements.

I just dump some baking soda into a bucket and rock on. Thanks for your video.

[jc8ward]

DO NOT USE STAINLESS STEEL!!! The electrolysis releases Hexavalent chromium from the SS as a gas that is carcinogenic to breath. It damages the lungs and liver and makes the solution toxic, which will poison groundwater (think of Erin Brockovich). Check with Poison Control or an Electrical Engineer.

[novobob]

Hello wickedmessenger1, I used your video to succssfully derust some pieces off an old wrought iron fence. Now I need to start on some much larger pieces, and was wondering if I could use two 12 amp battery chargers simultaneously on the same piece ?

[wesaredotcom]

Thanks for this i am about to get some rust from metal pipes in car that caused a failed head gasket

[penguinistas]

That was a good video, thank you. I think I could use this for a few special projects.

[DarkAngel182]

Thanks for posting this, I'll bear this in mind for future projects.

Tell me though, if the rusted item in question still had some paint stuck to it, I assume this would inhibit the rust removal process?

[TravisFisher]

I've used Oxy Clean when I do it. It works just as well as Arm & Hammer Washing Soda

[hedgehog23]

hexavalent chromium ummmmmmmmmmmmm

[ccsniper]

Could you use this method to remove Chrome plating from a wheel?

[wickedmessenger1]

I believe it will come off if there is rust under it. Otherwise it won't be damaged or removed.

[dozzy000]

hi!thanks for the video!, can i use this method to clean rust out a revolver???, how much amps does the charger needs to be?? can i use a small 12volts charger?

[Customizurs]

@wickedmessenger1 you need to use a Muriatic Acid mix to remove chrome. I may be trying it out some time next week. Ill post with the results.

[infrenis]

thank a lot just in time :-)

[walsh155]

hello wickedmessenger1 can you please tell me/email me what to use insted of staniless steel and salt because salt gives of chlorine gas thankyou

please write back

[krisztian79]

Do not use STAINLESS STEEL. The electrodes, and thus the chromium is consumed, and you end up with poisonous chromates in your electrolyte. Dumping these on the ground or down the drain is illegal. The compounds can cause severe skin problems and ultimately, cancer. Hexavalent chromate is poisonous.

USE REBAR etc.

[thrombox]

@krisztian79 How about using straight Iron or Copper?

[knoxgrassdealer1]

Does it matter if the two objects touch?

[wickedmessenger1]

Oh dear god, do not let them touch! This will probably destroy your power source unless it has a fuse. They must never touch!!

[CraziestOzzy]

mmmmmmm.......Chromium

[wickedmessenger1]

I keep hearing that using SS results in chromates in the waste water. Is this something people just keep repeating or a fact? Would somebody please send me a link to a site that will verify this? Sometimes things just keep getting repeated and are not true or not entirely true.

[OlegKostoglatov]

@wickedmessenger1 That doesn't make sense to me either, stainless steel is an alloy of nickel and steel not chromium.

[OlegKostoglatov]

@wickedmessenger1 That doesn't make sense to me either, stainless steel is an alloy of nickel and steel not chromium. But there is enough ordinary junk steel sitting around that wearing down electrodes isn't a bid deal

[aaronfude]

What amount of amps is good?

[wickedmessenger1]

More=faster. However, don't over-stress your power source. Control the amperage by the distance between your part and anode.

[APeale69]

Agreed - do NOT use stainless steel. It's toxic when it breaks down in this manner.

[rreidnauer]

The rust must have been fairly light on that piece. When I do parts, the water never stay clear for very long.

[d0peshow]

Lotsa good information there. Thanks for making this!

[KwantumFlux]

DO NOT USE STAINLESS STEEL!

Electrolysis with a stainless steel anode will put extremely toxic chromates into the solution. Disposing of this solution is dangerous and very illegal. Just be safe and use a non-plated carbon steel. If you need to buy some, get rebar. It is cheap and works well.

[biolectron]

That's exactly what I'm going to use some SS and the amount of hexavalent chromium will be so small that it will not pose a danger to anyone

[biolectron]

I'm going to set a bigger one up to clean cast iron skillets

[jagajg]

soaking in coca cola will remove the black coating.

[jsmith65625]

I'd like to thank you for this video, it was very helpful and I look forward to building my first electrolysis setup with the knowledge you've shared.

J.R.

[timothywyatt72]

I'm glad I know this.

Thank you.