I always believed the first car on the lead lap to take the checkered flag was the winner, but that's not always the case apparently. It would have been been hysterical to see everyone else slam on the brakes so they could fall behind biffle and cause a huge stack-up coming to the checkered.
so watchin this makes you wonder if marcos ambrose was the winner last week i meen he ran outta gas n they said the field was frozen greg stole a win here
The one thing I thought was funny about everyone bitching is that both Clint and Jimmy a) pass Biffle under the yellow b) Are speeding under the yellow....the only way Biffle would not have been given the win is if he got a DQ
When I said yellow I meant under the yellow flag conditions, no drive is allowed to advance their position under the yellow, and NASCAR officials actually reported after the race that both Jimmy and Clint were exceeding pace speed when they crossed the line thus negating the fact Biffle was slowing.
Cause you can't pass under yellow. In fact, if biffle was given the win, why didn't nascar black flag the 7 and 48. I think they probably gave them some room because they were confused whether or not Biffle was under the minimum required speed.
Um, you can pass below the yellow line at any track with the exception of Daytona and Talladega. They don't pass below the yellow at most tracks because it messes up the entrys in to the cornor, but still Daytona and Talladega are the only tracks that you cannot pass the yellow line at.
fuck the 48 and the 07 the field was frozen when he crossed the finish so what if he ran out of gas they r just jealous they were not winning if tht was them they would not have complained
I hate the 48 also but hey the rules clearly state that the field is frozen and all drivers must keep at pace speed or they will lose those positions. if he would have ran out of gas on the back straight and not got to the line would he have been declared the winner NO. But truth is this rule has so much gray area that it can be used to dictate races
The rule does state that they must maintain a minimum speed, but it's not pace speed, it's something lower. I don't know what it was in this case or if he was even maintaining it. So the question is was he maintaining it or not.
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I just saw Greg Biffle doing an interview with a 'Cross of Nero' symbol on his tee shirt. The Cross of Nero is an upside down cross with broken arms symbolizing the destruction of Christianity. Fuck you Biffle.
The great part is that he should have lost this race lol. they shortened the race and he still ran out of fuel. nascar gave him ths one as a hand out.
Greg won the damn race. All you Jimmie Johnson fans shut up!!!!! Im ok with Bowyer winning but I'm sorry Johnson didn't deserve the championship this year. Jeff gordon deserved it. Johnson is a Cheater.
I wouldn't say johnson is a cheater. But I will say he has never earned a lot of things he's done in nascar. Including his championship. This year he's about to win the Championship and it's again because of the Chase. The Chase is the worst idea ever, it promotes people who finish in 10th and punishes drivers who finish in 1st and 2nd.
In my mind it was bowyers win, but nascar can bend there rules all they want becouse don't forget mark martin at daytona they alowed them to race back to the line when they where supposed to throw the yellow and harvick won instead. I'm a clint bowyer fan plus from kansas so I'm just a little disapointed...Bowyers the REAL winner at kansas good job man don't get down for this you can still win the chase!
biffle won. it was close though. the field was frozen and he held his speed just enough. gongradulations to him. if that was jr everybody that said that this win was BS would be saying that he won fair and square.
Greg biffle did not win that race. If he had gas left in the car he would of drove it into victory lane or at least drive it at least closer to victory lane."They told me to get out, they wanted to push it." Who in there right mind wants to push a car? If there was gas in the car then how come he was coasting to the line when he knew it was the last lap? that is what boggles me. P.S. Congrats Clint That should of been 2 in three weeks
I agree with you. You obviously didnt understand that I was criticizing NASCAR and their bullcrap from last season, and not Greg... BTW I too am a Greg fan and wouldnt call my fellow Greg fans losers. Only losers do that. Think before you attack.
He did it like this, he did it like that, he did with a Biffle ball bat.
mattamal1 5 months ago
In the history books under wins Greg Biffle -1 Clint Bowyer +1
What a ridiculous finish!!!
DNR5586 7 months ago
uh no, marcos stopped his car like an idiot, biffle coasted to the line at reasonable pace. the other cars like bowyer kinda sped ahead too
cookieboy17 1 year ago
greg biffle did not win this race. clint bowyer won. same thing happend to marcos ambrose this year at sonoma and they robbed him from a win
TantalizingBeauty87 1 year ago 2
all nascar tracks should have lights.. except dega and the road courses
nascarsignore 1 year ago
I always believed the first car on the lead lap to take the checkered flag was the winner, but that's not always the case apparently. It would have been been hysterical to see everyone else slam on the brakes so they could fall behind biffle and cause a huge stack-up coming to the checkered.
brookstheump 1 year ago
so watchin this makes you wonder if marcos ambrose was the winner last week i meen he ran outta gas n they said the field was frozen greg stole a win here
666turbobusa 1 year ago
07 won that race
666turbobusa 1 year ago
The one thing I thought was funny about everyone bitching is that both Clint and Jimmy a) pass Biffle under the yellow b) Are speeding under the yellow....the only way Biffle would not have been given the win is if he got a DQ
friskycurtain 2 years ago
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nascarfan622 2 years ago
When I said yellow I meant under the yellow flag conditions, no drive is allowed to advance their position under the yellow, and NASCAR officials actually reported after the race that both Jimmy and Clint were exceeding pace speed when they crossed the line thus negating the fact Biffle was slowing.
friskycurtain 2 years ago
It should be a rule that every track should have lights, in case of this situation
nascarsignore 2 years ago 4
That's Hard To Believe That He Got Booed When He Won The Race!!!!!
jamespic 3 years ago
thanks Jack for screwing up again!
(letting Richert go.. one of his biggest mistakes of many)
jkbnumber1 3 years ago
All the people that are complaining about the win just look at michigan the 88 was out of gas and won so stop saying the 16 did not win
buckhunter3003 3 years ago 2
How do you win when your not the first car across the line?
horsesboy 3 years ago
Cause you can't pass under yellow. In fact, if biffle was given the win, why didn't nascar black flag the 7 and 48. I think they probably gave them some room because they were confused whether or not Biffle was under the minimum required speed.
Kartkid024 3 years ago
Um, you can pass below the yellow line at any track with the exception of Daytona and Talladega. They don't pass below the yellow at most tracks because it messes up the entrys in to the cornor, but still Daytona and Talladega are the only tracks that you cannot pass the yellow line at.
3crazyppl 2 years ago
Yeah I know this. I'm thinking you misread my comment. I said you can't pass under the yellow (flag). Not the Yellow line. Sorry for the confusion.
Kartkid024 2 years ago
huge biff fan but that should have been clint bowyers win
oppo135 3 years ago
fuck the 48 and the 07 the field was frozen when he crossed the finish so what if he ran out of gas they r just jealous they were not winning if tht was them they would not have complained
buckhunter3003 3 years ago
I hate the 48 also but hey the rules clearly state that the field is frozen and all drivers must keep at pace speed or they will lose those positions. if he would have ran out of gas on the back straight and not got to the line would he have been declared the winner NO. But truth is this rule has so much gray area that it can be used to dictate races
Kartracer6 3 years ago
The rule does state that they must maintain a minimum speed, but it's not pace speed, it's something lower. I don't know what it was in this case or if he was even maintaining it. So the question is was he maintaining it or not.
Kartkid024 3 years ago
greg biffle is from the city that i live in :D theres a street here called greg biffle blvd.
CODcarantenster 3 years ago
I was there, and there was still quite a bit of light there. Also, Bowyer should have been the real winner.
nascarfan8 3 years ago 2
Kansas Speedway needs lights..
JcTran92 3 years ago
LOL. Every track needs lights.
Kartkid024 3 years ago
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I just saw Greg Biffle doing an interview with a 'Cross of Nero' symbol on his tee shirt. The Cross of Nero is an upside down cross with broken arms symbolizing the destruction of Christianity. Fuck you Biffle.
crmac56 3 years ago
combatking08how is Jimmie a cheater?
killerchiller5 4 years ago
The great part is that he should have lost this race lol. they shortened the race and he still ran out of fuel. nascar gave him ths one as a hand out.
thereapmstr 4 years ago
Greg won the damn race. All you Jimmie Johnson fans shut up!!!!! Im ok with Bowyer winning but I'm sorry Johnson didn't deserve the championship this year. Jeff gordon deserved it. Johnson is a Cheater.
combatking08 4 years ago
I wouldn't say johnson is a cheater. But I will say he has never earned a lot of things he's done in nascar. Including his championship. This year he's about to win the Championship and it's again because of the Chase. The Chase is the worst idea ever, it promotes people who finish in 10th and punishes drivers who finish in 1st and 2nd.
Kartkid024 3 years ago
The same NASCAR that called all those bogus debris cautions earlier this season to help Hendrick made this call, too.
espressoshots 4 years ago
In my mind it was bowyers win, but nascar can bend there rules all they want becouse don't forget mark martin at daytona they alowed them to race back to the line when they where supposed to throw the yellow and harvick won instead. I'm a clint bowyer fan plus from kansas so I'm just a little disapointed...Bowyers the REAL winner at kansas good job man don't get down for this you can still win the chase!
Magerking23 4 years ago
biffle won. it was close though. the field was frozen and he held his speed just enough. gongradulations to him. if that was jr everybody that said that this win was BS would be saying that he won fair and square.
tourbook4 4 years ago 12
true that the 88 won the same way at michigan this year and i have not heard a bs finish yet
buckhunter3003 3 years ago 8
Greg biffle did not win that race. If he had gas left in the car he would of drove it into victory lane or at least drive it at least closer to victory lane."They told me to get out, they wanted to push it." Who in there right mind wants to push a car? If there was gas in the car then how come he was coasting to the line when he knew it was the last lap? that is what boggles me. P.S. Congrats Clint That should of been 2 in three weeks
number1racingfan 4 years ago
they just said at around 55 secs that he still needed to cross the finish line...BS
coolsal2008 4 years ago
Greg won the race and EARNED IT. Get a life, you sore loser.
thebiff16 4 years ago
I agree with you. You obviously didnt understand that I was criticizing NASCAR and their bullcrap from last season, and not Greg... BTW I too am a Greg fan and wouldnt call my fellow Greg fans losers. Only losers do that. Think before you attack.
espressoshots 3 years ago
I'm sorry. You're right, I am a loser.
thebiff16 3 years ago
bull5hit. another nascar fumble. when will it end. never!
tonytoohotty 4 years ago
what happened to the green white checkered?
racny8345 4 years ago
Nascar had already decided to call the race at lap 210, which is the lap they would have gone back to green for the Green White Checker.
Also, it was very dark at the track, since there are no lights at Kansas. The cameras were adjusted to make it look brighter than it actually was.
vanbomstein 4 years ago