SSFIV - TriForce Speaks About The Rumors of EMP Falling (pt 2 of 2)

[xxCasanova98xx]

@ 2:52 - "I want to stay neutral..." TOO LATE homie, especially when you follow up that asinine statement by referring to EMP as "us." Perhaps you should invest less time on doing interviews on street corners and more time being professional.

[mattrospecs]

Losing JWong foreshadowed the fall of their fighting division

[MACKxDIZZLE]

Empire Suck A Fat Dick , Mad Excuses Didnt Top In Shit This Evo Pack It Up

[ancxxxsold13r]

damn shits sounds like an organized gang

[endauthority]

Triforce, u mad?

[blacklite911]

Funny how they said Empire is gonna dominate in marvel 3 when its actually been the flip side with westcoast players like Jwong, Marn, Combofiend, Floe dominating the majors.

[skullblader]

I dont know the whole situation. I'm sure none of us does other than Jwong and EMP. But damn there is some salty muthafuckas in this interview.

[MrHandsomeish]

And IFC movie channel should pick up "King Of Chinatown"...

[MrHandsomeish]

I really appreciated and respect the HONEST feedback from EMP Arcadia. There are people that came and went as far as players go and it seems to me like they wanted MORE outside of the Empire because of selfishly unsatisfied personal needs/wants. As far as Justin Wong goes, he is now a lost child left to fend for himself in the wild (MvC). Thanks Raw Game Play for the reliable digest, much respect from one gamer to the next. And to EMP Arcadia, continue to keep the fort standing strong.

[elmikey06]

i think im one of the few people to wish to be mentored by triforce

i still say i can learn a thing or two from the guy

oh well some day =D

maybe i can make an empire too

[ghosttaker]

thats when you wave hi haters

[69sins]

havent been keeping up with all this stuff, but what does EG stand for? and does sabin also rep that?

[DannyCybar]

@69sins

EG stands for "Evil Geniuses" Not sure about Sabin representing them.

Peace.

[biggiejackson]

Man Can I get a Match Im Makavelis123, come on son, no hate just RAW some RAW comp.... thats me son Super Street Fighter 4 I have Beat Justin Wong and Alex Valle. Hit me Makavelis123 on XBL...

[StaticFalconar]

I kinda feel for Triforce and EA, except the only product they produce is a community for people to play with (it doesn't warrant having their name out there like EG. Reason is EG actually paid the bills of their players to rep them).

I respect the empire for trying to unify the competitive gaming community, but instead of using your winnings to support Triforce and the Ark, why not get an agent that only takes 10% instead?

JWong is a man and thats why he left to live in his own house.

[Delc0]

Very nice....although 6 of 40 is just about a fourth and those are some big names.

[ChrissHansonNBC]

watch?v=EF5vSTRdmY4

[IngridBloo]

CRUMBLEEEEEE~~~~~

[xmileena]

Floe isn't in emp anymore. And yipes failed at life and didn't make it out of pools, Sanford failed at life and went out by pressing pause too many times. Doesn't matter how many people they throw at it, they still didn't have a good showing. Look at it like this, 3 people should be enough because that's roughly how many players japan throws at us a year and look how well they do. Emp is dead, give up.

[UltraScrub]

I wish the unity in the east coast was true. But I know for a fact it's not...

[meder1412]

Looks like you guys lost your biggest money makers. Are the lights still on?

[theincredibleisis]

In reference to the ARC. He was charging $1500 a month for just JUSTINS room. People in the ARC have to buy their OWN food. Then Prod1gy. The OUTSTANDING sponsor they have is "J!NX". They have a $30k contract with them split 3 ways = Justin, Force, Prod1gy. Prod1gy was originally offered the sponsorship but force had him split it since he was in contract w/him. So basically Prod got screwed out of 20k in free clothes. But anyway back to the real world.........

[njmaddenballer]

Very informative.

[BRBaracus]

Nice interview Mr. Hurdle. I would like to see interviews w/ the players that left EMP. Just to hear what they have to say regarding this. Any chance you might get interviews w/ any of them ? Particularly Sabin since he is still in nyc.

[Tatsumaki121]

sweet interview dude. ive really wanted to see an interview that delves deep into these corporations. What is this new film about Justin Wong you are on about? Do you know where I could watch it?

Cheers

[shenakoom]

This EMP shit is a joke! These guys are so ass hurt a player left their "empire". Advice, get some pussy, and not those fat gamer chicks. Where will most of you be in 10 years, what education do you carry so when your "gaming" era is gone? Breakdown, focus on real life, put down the sticks for a bit and play casually. This is going no where, (this organization that is)./ You are the people that are attracting the haters, this is what you do. Stop doing the whole "beef" thing. Move on.

[dommafia]

Good interview, a lot of things made a lot of sense here... at the end of the day EMP has done more good for the east coast fighting scene than bad.

[Shinjo101788]

Thank you for doing this interview by the way. I understand why you did not ask about the situation Triforce had in regards to Mileena. If that would have happened, he would have publicly sullied his company name on film. With all due respect, which is little to none, don't you think Triforce is acting like an 8 year old raised on BET? Does he even think before he says things? Of course he has haters, he is a professional conman. Hitler had haters too, was he doing something right? Get real.

[Shinjo101788]

In case you haven't noticed, I am the 'shinjo' Triforce is talking about. My contention is, and always will be, that Empire Arcadia is no different from people playing video games in their house and paying the bills by any means necessary. Yes there are talented gamers in EMP that get sponsorships. They would get sponsorships anyway due to their skill, just look at Daigo. They do not need Triforce leeching on their success. Tell me, how is EMP different from the rest of us? Food for thought.

[lukealandrummond]

is that what u call 15 seconds...i call that 30

[fozzyozzy106]

VERY INTERESTING INTERVIEW

[alexlexus]

hey mike you know what people did to nmo? they were taking the N and ...........well you know changing it to the bad N word. this was the best interview of its type i ever saw because no one has ever got into the drakside of the fighting game field.

sometimes we all need to see stuff like this because like the interview we did with DMG's Burnyourbra it was more postive stuff overall, but great job with bringing this to light. EMP don worry guys you will remain a force in the east coast.

[Dionis8534]

Wow, im speechless. I didnt know there was this much "drama" going on with Emp and the whole fighting game community. I feel compelled to train harder and be on of the top players to represent The East Coast.

[AnGrYM4N]

part 1 he completely skipps out on the main question about J wong leaveing the arc lol. Yo anser thast question triforce about you being salty about justin leaving.

[KaosMasterX]

Out of 40-ish "managed" members, 6 top face's are leaving. Then top it off 6 members were MIA for evo; only 3 people qualified/attended evo 2k10. Looks like bad organization to me. If Tri wonders why theres so many people hating on him; maybe he should stop trying to profit off of everyone around him. The scumbag was charging people(20) to enter inside his room to watch people play sf4 during the ECT2 Tournament.

[Shinjo101788]

@KaosMasterX I can second that. His only interest is money. I had a whole thread on SRK about it. I am pretty sure that I am in the film. I am the 'shinjo' they are talking about. I made a whole PDF on it. If anyone would like to have a copy, just PM me. It is so funny how a CEO of a company could give childish shout outs to 'haters', it really speaks to his character. I am under his skin, and it bothers him. Triforce hates people who can think for themselves.

[Farside80]

Mike Ross + Justin Wong = MVC3

I BELIEVE!

[UltimateShinzo]

Good interview.

[RawGamePlay]

@UltimateShinzo Thank you. Michael Hurdle

[YogaFlame24]

Great Interview.

[RawGamePlay]

@YogaFlame24 Thank you again.

[Prettyboi815]

@RawGamePlay where kan ii see that movie you mentioned about in tha 1st part of tha interview, where you stated "alot of questiones have been answered, but some havent and wut not" i guess tha movie izz tha top level players whom gave their opinions; made statements or somethin?

[reversetriangle]

Justin Wong came in first at evo 2010 for MvC2, and Ricky came in 2nd for SSF4 at evo 2010. Sounds like EG is doing good...

Evil Rahsaan has won nothing, and he's talking shit...

I'm also pretty sure EG doesn't even know what the hell Empire Arcadia is.

[TEEMOBRY]

@reversetriangle That maks no sense. How would they not know who emp is if they took there best known players

[reversetriangle]

@TEEMOBRY Ugh, because of streams, and word of mouth? Why would you have to know what EMP is to know who Justin Wong is? I had no idea what EMP was until Justin Wong was talking about it. Go figure.

[buddhachildsf]

WEST COAST DON'T WANT JUSTIN WONG, TAKE HIM BACK WE DON'T NEED HIM.

[bigant77lnd]

Good shit Big Mike on this interview this thing right here reminds of that movie King of Kong cnt wait till Marvel3 comes out so the East Coast can take over keep up the good work RGP

[smitacular]

EMP = video game pyramid scheme

[liukangstoupee]

I have learned to like and hate Empire Arcadia and Justin Wong in more ways after this interview.

For triforce, I highly respect his dedication to the improvement of his team, but hate that he seems to think everyone owes him in one way or another and sounds ungrateful at times.

For Jwong, I respect him trying to make his own way, but the way he ditch his team. I wouldn't be surprised if Jwong influenced some of the members to ditch the team.

[PhinnyCobbler]

"The haters keep coming, so we're doing something right"

What a fucking retard. seriously?

[SuperBlaze22]

@PhinnyCobbler That actually makes sense. Haters only surface when they feel insecure about somthin' when another is doin' somthin' they aren't, that they want to themselves.

[PhinnyCobbler]

@SuperBlaze22 that would be someone who is jealous, not someone who hates. not everyone hates because they're jealous.

[Shinjo101788]

@SuperBlaze22 You do realize that Adolf Hitler had 'haters' too right? I'm guessing you agree with Triforce by saying he was doing something right as well. Get real. People hate that Triforce is a professional conman and a liar. He is the epitome of a hypocritical person. He takes credit for other people's work, and also benefits from it too by doing little to nothing. It is no wonder that people hate him with a passion.

[Generalgutz]

Raw Scoops. RGP FTW!!!!

[fnshrvb]

this interview was on a niceness ting

[mannyichi]

Woo! Damn great job Micheal!!!^_^

[VOTERindependent]

So let me get this straight. At about the 9 minute mark we get a lesson on how Justin is overcompensating and that maybe that's why he didn't place top 8 in SSF4. But then he uses MvC2 as the reason. Didn't Justin Wong win MvC2 this year? And as for top 8 in SSF4, let's not diminish the accomplishments of the other players. Justin lost because many more high level players showed up to Evo this year. These are the best of the best, and East Coast will never play them. How well did Sanford do?

[Shinjo101788]

@VOTERindependent Triforce somehow believes that if Justin is failing, in anyway, this adds legitimacy to his 'company.' He argues like an 8 year old. Just look at how he carries himself. How is that a respectable way for a CEO to act? When you realize that Triforce is just another person, who happens to be a professional conman, things get much easier to sort out. EMP is dying and he knows it, and he will do anything to fight it, even lie to himself and others.

[scabellum]

Sorry man, but: our mothers > Empire Arcadia.

[redx1xman]

@scabellum

ahahahahahaha!!! nice one!

[strafer]

LOL this cat says I want to be neutral then calls the guy a betrayer. Dude's trying to make a living and you want to run your mouth. How about you learn how to play and back up EMP then. Mind you business guy.

[JD3s]

Thanks for the interview

I wish you would've asked triforce what does a player need to achieve to be elegible for EMP, but other than that its a great interview

[LelouchX77]

@JD3s

yeah I agree, how does one get into EMP?

[Shinjo101788]

@LelouchX77 You demonstrate to Triforce that you have some chance of making money playing games. The method in which you can demonstrate that you are valuable could be anything. You could show him you have won previous tournaments, qualified for regionals, etc. Once you do this, he will get you to sign a contract that allows him to take a cut of everything you make if he wants to. And that is the end of it. You are bound for life until he wants to let you go. He is a conman, stay clear.

[rayray19wun]

EAST COAST!!!! 

[ILLzMattIc]

Yipes is cool as hell the other dudes not so much.

[BRBaracus]

@ILLzMattIc He seems like the most humble of them..

[fightlikegentlemen]

really good interview and it uncovered most of the situations that were discussed about in rumors and threads on websites. theres basically a reason for a everything, people breaking contracts and trying to follow suit and explanations to what goes down in the arc financial wise. and good shit on the responses.

[GFBNews]

wesssiiidddee

[monkeypower]

Justin wong:"Westside" lol wow...what a prick

[Shinjo101788]

If you game Triforce an enema, you could bury him in a matchbox.

[clayfame]

Every last one of you are pringles. It is remarkable that you resign yourselves to maintaining a competitive edge in a game that is not even out of development. There is nothing Wong has to worry about if there are not skillful opponents to challenge his #1 position. It is quite the tragedy that money woes and the American way has to interfere with what should be the most egalitarian platform imaginable, but those are the breaks; suck it up, stay salty and keep practicing.

[Shinjo101788]

@clayfame You are dealing with EMP. Their whole philosophy is based on the principle that they are elite gamers. There is no sense of egalitarian belief in this context. If you follow the fighting game media as diligently as I do with an open mind, you will find that Triforce is nothing more than a professional conman. He leeches on his players for income and provides little to no support for them. Letting somone play games in your house does not count as support. EMP is dying, he knows.

[619kammy]

How is it possible to turn video games into gangbanging and hoods. Jesus everything gets fucked in the US. 

[ayaueto88]

It's true that Yipes and Sanford are on the East coast, and that Justin Wong is on the West coast, but Marn is there, too. So, since MVC3 is a mix of MVC2 and TVC (of which Marn is no doubt the best player of), wouldn't you think the West Coast has some kind of advantage so far? Isn't it also a little backwards to approach MVC3 like its MVC2?

Whatevs. All of this talk about 2D fighting games, but all I hear is a Tekken-like story. East coast is Kazuya. Justin Wong is Jin. ChocoBlanka is Asuka.

[EmJaYGaming]

@ayaueto88 TVC community can't be compared because most top players in MVC2 don't even play TVC and focus on that and ssfiv. Other then the button layout MVC3 doesn't have much in common with TVC. Unlike other vs games TVC focuses around the baroque system which was not in MVC2 and is not in MVC3 (thankfully)

[hardgayramen4ever]

the interviewer is so far up triforces backside

[Omegax9000]

@hardgayramen4ever brilliant

[RawGamePlay]

@hardgayramen4ever Than names Michael Hurdle

[xmileena]

Maybe Justin will place top 8? Hmm... no emp even got close to top 8. Also you're saying Justin doesn't have what it takes in marvel? That's funny, didn't he win marvel this year? Evil Rahsaan will never scratch top 8 in his own house. Talk trash after you matter, also pick up a character, constantly counter picking just makes you look like even more of a bitch when you lose.

[iharpoonwhales]

@xmileena thank u u deserve a trophy of soul filled with nectar

[ExBrutalion]

@xmileena Didn't Sanford win EVO 2k9 with MvC2? Let me answer that, yeah he did... He beat Justin in the grand finals... Are you actually looking at PAST events? Or just 2010? ...-.-

[Shinjo101788]

@ExBrutalion She is talking about 2010, that is what everyone is talking about. 2010 marks the year that EMP will start to crumble. They have no viable marketable players left. Nobody is wiling to sponsor gamers who act like thugs. Face it, EMP is slowly dying and Triforce is in denial. Just watch, EMP will fade.

[ExBrutalion]

@xmileena Isn't weird how they just said that only Floe, Sanford, and Yipes went to EVO? And you are bringing that up like you weren't listening. The stove is awaiting, I am hungry.

[Shinjo101788]

@ExBrutalion FLoE is not in EMP anymore. If you saw the Facebook drama, you would know that.

[BIGGAVELLii]

3:42 lmao my nigga snitching? wow  is all good tho it ain't no street shit...... :)

[xNewAgeWarriorx]

@BIGGAVELLii ? english?

[oShiiiNeo]

@BIGGAVELLii lol.

[bboystyles650]

west coast is where its at thats why

[Omegax9000]

@bboystyles650 ALL MOFO DAY WESTSIDE!!!

[CowboyBebopCrew]

@xmileena: What's with the N-word? It's ignorant fucks like you that ruin the gaming community. I'm not saying what Triforce is saying is right or wrong, but throwing out derogatory terms for no reason is ignorant as hell.

-JB

[RawGamePlay]

@xmileena What does this comment mean? Michael Hurdle

[alexlexus]

the N word is a no no, dang mike we have dealth with the same thing. dont wrry man getting in the spot light sucks

[RawGamePlay]

@alexlexus For real dude. these ppl just want use to respond to their bullshit. I really don't care. They just add to our hit count. lol Michael Hurdle

[AvalonWolf]

So, I take it RawGamePlay are directors now?

[alexlexus]

@AvalonWolf

youtube give you 15mins as of last week thursday



[iharpoonwhales]

siliva slowly oozes out of your mouth

I grab both of your hands to stop you from wiping it up

and I continue to consume your nectar

Babes?

if your pussy was a bowl of soul and consume the nectar

The internet cut off here.

what was the last thing you read?

[daytona5bill]

All this perpetuation of childish b.s... you are a grown ass man, feeding into gossip and using words like "haters". This 

Dig @ EMP Arcadia keeping it all 100... and making alot of valid points tho.

[Shinjo101788]

@daytona5bill What valid points were there?

[ryukenchi]

wow a lot of truths came out in these two vids and im sure u guys are gonna get some haters comment on this. but hey truth hurts right? :p

nice interview micheal

[YODUNNY]

emp still has sanford, yipes, dimenion, jago, rahsaan, and krey just to name a few. yipes and sanford got it on lock...

[YODUNNY]

@YODUNNY and justin wont get top 3 in mvc3 next year at evo.

[Shinjo101788]

@YODUNNY Among all the people you have named, how many of them placed top 3 at EVO? You think that one person is enough? Get real. EMP is dead. They are a bunch of hypocrites that claim to be family until their cash cow leaves. Now they hate him, it is clear as day. Justin Wong brought in the most money for EMP and now they are bleeding financially. Hear that? It's the sound of EMP crumbling before your eyes. You can't pay rent with Chef Boyardee cans.

[hustler6t9]

Fukin excellent interview big ups micheal hurdle!

[RawGamePlay]

@hustler6t9 Thank you my brother.

[RawGamePlay]

@hustler6t9 Thank you my brother. People wanted to know about this. I'm glad we all got chance to bring this to the light. This interview was very much needed. Michael Hurdle.

[RMPKenpachi]

This is some lebron james shit.

[Quake2815]

Can't wait til MVC3.

[butterscotchcookie]

How can anybody hate on EMP? I'm from Chicago and I wish i lived in nyc to be apart of that community. It's my dream to work as a team that supports each other in all genres.

[genozstriker]

I think you guys took Justin Wong moving to Evil Geniuses and the West Coast way too personal. You guys say you are all about being a family, but if you really mean that then I hope you guys do not mean the things you said about him.

Don't look at him moving to EG and the West Coast as a betrayal but rather him wanting to start a new journey. Justin did what he thought was right and better for his future and if you guys were really his friends you'd let him go.

[Kex23]

@genozstriker

they are mad because it was their biggest earner, that's all.

somebody gotta earn that rent money.

[Golllyyy]

@RawGamePlay Nice work :D

[malabloaw]

Keep it going strong, shout to TriForce

[StormHater33]

Eastcoast represent! 

[StormHater33]

Yipes is a Bad Ass! Justin got stomped at this years EVO(Oh how the mighty have fallen)

[IEOA]

@StormHater33

Yes Justin Wong didn't get top 8 at SSFIV but he still got 1st place in MVC2. But again like they said in this interview, we have to wait for next year's EVO to really know how Justin and the Empire will progress without each other.

[SheltonShenanigans]

@StormHater33 He took 1st in MvC2.... how is 1st place getting stomped?

[ecode68]

yaw keep doing yo thang haters gonna hate

[anthonycoleman13]

this was a really good interview

[TheOfficialSpoof]

Nice vid man love your shit!