I suppose he can postulate an answer by saying "evolution". That is his explanation for how we got here... he propogates this delusion at all cost... even to the point of being ridiculous... This backwards theory that says that we came from a rock... then it transformed itself into a monkey and with the help of magical time it became a human... I just don't have enough faith to be an atheist/evolutionist. You might as well believe in the tooth fairy or big foot.
@roac777 you are very right that there is a great dea of evidence supporting the theory of evolution; and to disregard such evidence would be ignorance. however, there is a great lack of evidence supporting the ideas presented in the "Big Bang theory". and supposing this theory is valid, who is to say that it was not the result of the will of an unknown power? And supposing the big bang theory is not correct, what evidence is there to oppose the idea that life is not designed?
@TheEldestMartinez This backwards theory that says that we came from a rock... then it transformed itself into a monkey and with the help of magical time it became a human... I just don't have enough faith to be an atheist/evolutionist. You might as well believe in the tooth fairy or big foot
The cross is foolishness to those who are perishing but to those who are being saved , it is the POWER of God. 1 corinthians 1-18 why would you perish when you can be saved from the wrath to come. God has demonsrated His power over death and sin what more could you want than to spend eternity with the creator.(self existing one)
With all the advances in quantum physics and string theory, it's hard to believe that so many people still doubt the existence in God. But it's even harder to believe that people are so ignorant that they come up with such ideas as Chaos theory. It's truly sad to see how ignorant and pompous humankind has become. Then again, it's almost always been this way. God help us all..youtube.com/watch?v=cCTuiugo7mU youtube.com/watch?v=0hQFO6ugWxU&feature=related
God is spirit and is probley not interested in going into a test tube. suggesting evidence and proof is simple , because I believe in Christ as my saviour His presence and the Holy spirit live within me. I will tell you thier is most definitely a Devil and He is not alone, He was and is a murderer and a lair from the BEGINING and the father of lies, beware you suffer the same fait as Him which is a lake of fire of sulpher and brimstone. Truth and Spirit are the urgent factors of life friend greg
@pimpss88 Hell was made for God's enemy Lucifer, a covering cherib angle, (the most powerful CREATURE ever made, as He led a rebellion against God And God cast Him out of Heaven, His ultimate destiny is the lake of fire. God is light and God is Love and he must judge sin as he is Holy and Righteouse. God desires all men to be saved however the truth is some love thier sin rather than make Jesus Christ thier Lord and saviour. Man makes prison to house offenders question is why can't GOD. greg
@eternitywithjesus888 yes and he sends people who dont belive in him there am i right?and yes he created evil Isaiah 45:7I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace,AND CREATE EVIL: I the LORD do all these things. so if someone believes in jesus they can go to heaven even hitler but those poor jews who did not will burn if they dont convert am i right
@pimpss88 Look you will have to take that up with Jehovah. He never asked me to answer for Him so you may mock who you think He is, the truth is thier is only- Truth and Error, do you believe you are qualified to judge God. Job in the Bible questioned God and God responded where were you when I laid the foundations of the world and son on, the question is not who God is He reveals Himself in scripture, so everyone can see the Truth, The question is who are you?
He is God and He does what He pleases, He has given you a life to assist Him to destroy the works of the Devil, The origin of Evil, Christ has provided an antidote to right the wrongs of evil so why not Join Christ in the redemption of man. After all God created everything perfect in the begining and it was His creation that transgressed against Gods perfect pristine work. How do you find fault with a God that is set on fixing created beings mistake He is true to His word The Bible. greg.
@eternitywithjesus888 He is Santa and He does what He pleases, He has given you a life to assist Him to destroy the works of the Terminator, The origin of Evil, Thor has provided an antidote to right the wrongs of evil so why not Join Twilight Sparkle in the redemption of man. After all Santa created everything perfect in the begining and it was His creation that transgressed against Santa's perfect pristine work. How do you find fault with a Santa blah blah....
@pimpss88 Jehovah, (Father, Son, Holy Spirit.) God saves by His mercy, He commands all men(every person) to repent as heard in Isaiah 1 "Come now, let us reason togeather say's the Lord", though your sins be like scarlet they shall be white as snow, though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool, If You are willing and obedient, you shall eat of the good of the land, But if you refuse and rebel, You shall be devoured by the sword; the mouth of the Lord has spoken. Greg
@eternitywithjesus888 "But if you refuse and rebel, You shall be devoured by the sword" Ahh, good ol' Christianity. Bringing Peace and Love to everyone. Even you. And you will love it. Or else.
@TomFynn Jesus said " I have not come to bring peace but a sword." He is not fooling around friend.greg He came as a lamb for the slaughter, to redeem men from sin and death, when He comes back a second time He is coming as the Lion of the tribe of Judea. Make straight paths for the Lord
@eternitywithjesus888 I suspect you aren't for real; some kind of internet comedian. If this isn't the case then I suggest you broaden your narrow mind.....
@eternitywithjesus888 Look I am going to give you a tip please do not take this in any other way than me trying to be helpfull.I respect your belief.just watch out for trolls on here they can be mean.although i disagree with you i wish nothing but the best and hope god if he exists is alot nicer than he seems in the bible.peace
Thier is not a war between science and God please understand that Christianity is a Faith and has religiouse aspects. Satan is a Decever and who has plagued this world with millions of religions to add subterfuge against the Truth of Jesus Christ. Jehovah wants to save a lost world and People (some ) are satified with an time bound earthly existance instead of the eternal life God offers through the Gospel.(good news) Find worth in your creator and you all know within who that is Jehovah
i hope some day soon people see the truth that we don't know it all, but to put all your faith into a religion and just accept that "that's just the way god wants it" is just as stupid as joining a cult (yes that's what it is) And i love to see Christians taking such offense in the name of their god. Are the gods of other cultures meaningless? are you so sure that yours is the true god? Not just a story passed down 2000+ years.
How could some of the scientists permit themselves to make a claim that would necessitate knowledge as extensive as the scheme of the universe, when their knowledge of the total scheme of being is *close* to zero, when confronted with a whole mass of unknowns concerning this very earth and tangible, lifeless matter, let alone the whole universe?
@skywize Do scientific discoveries and knowledge cause such a scientist to conclude that matter, *unknowing and unperceiving *, is his creator and that of all beings?
No?
Then how can the atheists and some of the scientists delude themselve and *believe* that hydrogen and oxygen, electrons and protons, should first produce themselves, then be the source for all other beings, and finally decree the laws that regulate themselves and the rest of the material world?
@1tabligh I am no scientist, but I do not believe any of these materials are assumed to have 'produced themselves'. Nothing produces itself. As for adding a god to the mix... why? We know that something was the cause of something else, you are right, this is obvious. This does not mean it is a god. Dunes were not created by a landscaper, they were created by the wind out of sand. Not everything needs a designer.
@skywize What is called science by the *science-worshippers* of the present age and regarded by them as equivalent to the sum total of *reality*, is simply a collection of laws applicable to a single dimension of the world. The result of all human effort and experimentation is a body of knowledge concerning a minute bright dot comparable to the dim light of a candle-surrounded by a dark night enveloping a huge desert of indefinite extent.
All praise is due to ALLAH, the Lord of the Universe.
@1tabligh I, personally don't worship science, or anything for that matter... ok, Jennifer Love Hewitt, perhaps... I simply understand science as a way of perceiving the world. I have found that, regardless of what I am studying at the time, science never seems to contradict itself as my first religion did. I have also found that while science seems to improve things in most cases, the religions of the world do the opposite.
@skywize Also, please understand, I do not wish to simply dump on people's faith. I see a great many sad things in this world. People are suffering and dying. Sometimes religion is not the cause, but most of the time it is. Would you not rather a world of people that don't look at each other with disdain for no other reason but that they believe in other gods? People hate each other and kill each other for gods they can't even prove exist. It hurts to see it over and over.
@skywize ....science never seems to contradict itself as my first religion did....
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The atheist Delusion!
Your delusions that science has put out the notion of God is purely *rhetorical* and has nothing to do with logical method, because even thousands of scientific experiments could not possibly suffice to demonstrate that no non-material being or factor exists.
Your claim is nothing more than a *fanatical* illusion based on unproven theories.
Views such as these derive directly from a system of thought centered on materialism; within it, everything is defined and delimited with reference to materialism.
To interpret materialism in such a sense is in the final analysis strictly meaningless; it would be a superstitious notion involving the perversion of truth, and to regard it as scientific would, in fact, be *treason* to science.
Even if the followers of a religious school of thought had no proofs for their claim,
to conclude firmly and forcibly that non- being reigns beyond the sensory realm would be a non-scientific choice, based on imagination and speculation.
Some people try to propagate this *fantasy* in the garb of science and to present their choice as having been dictated by scientific thought. In the final analysis, however, the denial involved in such an assertion is unworthy of science and philosophy, and even *contradicts* empirical logic.
@1tabligh I do not completely deny a creator of some sort. I don't believe it, but I won't deny the possibility. I will say, however that the god described in the bible does not exist. The god of the bible MUST conform to the description, or it negates itself. Since there is evidence against the bible being remotely true, THAT god does not exist. I, however do not know enough about Allah, or the slew of other gods out there to comment on them. The most believable faith is Deism or Pantheism.
If someone claims that you are an angel, he has to prove it. I do not need to prove that you are a man because you appear as a man and have all the attributes of a man.
The one who claims that you are an angel is supposed to prove what he claims, because his claim is contrary to the common sense and to what appears as the actual fact.
When a person says that Jesus or Mohammad is a man, and not a God, he agrees with the accepted definition.
Jesus lived like a man, looked like a man, slept as a man, ate as a man, and was persecuted like one. None of these facts need proof. This is not the case with the one who claims his divinity.
His claim is opposed to the common knowledge. Therefore, he, and no one else, has to provide the evidence for his claim.
Although the Muslims are not supposed to provide any evidence for the denial of the divinity of ""...other gods out there .., they can present more than one evidence.
If numerous gods ruled over the world and each of these gods acted and gave commands in accordance with his own will, the order of the universe would dissolve into anarchy.
If there were, in the heavens and the earth, other gods besides Allah, there would have been confusion in both! but glory to Allah, the Lord of the Throne: (High is He) above what they attribute to Him!
Man's religious ties are an outgrowth of his nature, and materialism is something opposed to his nature. In accordance with his specific make-up, man will create his own god if he does not discover the true God, and the god he discovers may be nature or historical inevitability. This fa;we god takes the place of the true God with respect to comprehensiveness of authority, effectiveness of decree, and capacity to guide man on a certain path and propel him forward,
unhindered by anyone's desires. This is the source of the trade in false gods, the adherence to the new idolatry, that would cruelly sacrifice God to history and exchange a pearl for a bead. Alas that so many people smitten with self-inflicted abjection have bowed down before the idol they themselves have fashioned and deified! They have turned away from the peerless creator and willingly accepted the polluting disgrace of such misdirected worship.
Those who refuse to worship God find themselves prostrating before their inner idol; passion and desire rule every dimension of their beings.
Self-worship is a dangerous sickness that with its different manifestations in the individual and social life of man entails the most tragic misfortunes and disorders. It creates a powerful barrier between man and the truth and results in the breakdown of man's capacities of perception and the blinding of his inner being.
The Qur'an says: "Do you not see the one who takes his own desires as god? God has made him go astray, despite his possession of knowledge; He has placed a seal on his ears and his heart and drawn a curtain of darkness over his eyes. Who other than God can guide him? Will you then not take heed?" (45:23)
Unless a man is possessed of a firm and stable faith he remains a stranger to the ways of those who know God. His scepticism grows. He regards as acceptable whatever in life coincides with scientific thought and reading.He discounts anything that his sciences do not prove or even try to prove for him.
The basis of religious thinking is thus left untilled and untended. He considers undeserving of attention any problem which cannot be taken in isolation from all religion, be judged by its outward appearance, and proved by experiment. Having grown used to scientific language, with its formulae and equations, he regards religious matters as lightweight and commonplace.
When the experimental sciences demonstrate that the elements and natural facrtors cannot exert any independent influence and do not possess any creativity; when all of our experiences, our sensory feelings, and our rational deductions point to the conclusion that nothing occurs in nature without a reason and cause and that all phenomena are based on an established system and specific laws, when all of this is the case, it is surprising that some people turn their backs on scientific principles,
primary deductions and propositions based on reflection, and deny the existence of the Creator.
Now, too, in the age of science and technology, when man has found his way into space, a considerable number of scientists have a religious outlook as part of the intellectual system; they have come to believe in the existence of a creator, a source for all beings, not only by means of the heart and the conscience, but also through deduction and logic.
@skywize The most believable faith is Deism or Pantheism.
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Nope!
Human faculties of conception, perception and learning, and attributes of volition, intuition and apprehension cannot catch sight of His Person or fathom the extent of His Might and Glory. Reason and sagacity cannot visualise Him. His Attributes cannot be fixed, limited or defined.
There is no difference between His Person and His Attributes, and His Attributes should not be differentiated or distinguished from His Person. Whoever accepts His Attributes to be other than His Person then actually forsakes the idea of Unity of God and believes in duality ( He and His Attributes). Such a person in fact believes Him to exist in Parts. One who holds such a faith cannot form a true concept of God, he is IGNORANT and will always try to believe in some *creation* of his
Intelligence, understanding and attainment cannot attain the depth of knowledge to study or scrutinise the Godhead. None can fully understand or explain His Being however hard he my try. There do not exist words in any language to specify or define His qualities, peculiarities, characteristics and singularities. He has not permitted human mind to grasp the Essence of His Being ***YET*** He has not prevented them from realising His Presence.
@1tabligh Oh never mind, your just trolling. Is this stuff copied and pasted from Doctor Craig's website? It's crap, he's a snake oil salesman. I should have recognized the language immediately. You are done trolling me, kid. I won't read nor respond to you. Fuck off.
@skywize What is called science by the *science-worshippers* of the present age and regarded by them as equivalent to the sum total of *reality*, is simply a collection of laws applicable to a single dimension of the world. The result of all human effort and experimentation is a body of knowledge concerning a minute bright dot comparable to the dim light of a candle-surrounded by a dark night enveloping a huge desert of indefinite extent.
All praise is due to ALLAH, the Lord of the Universe.
@ndrthrdr1 Then how can the duped and brainwashed atheists delude themselve and believe that hydrogen and oxygen, electrons and protons, should first produce themselves, then be the source for all other beings, and finally decree the laws that regulate themselves and the rest of the material world?
@1tabligh Believe that electrons and protons "produce themselves"?? Of all the hundreds of thousands of scientific articles available, could you please point out at least one which makes this claim?
No? That's what I thought. Please press play again and, for the first 30 seconds, make an attempt to actually listen to what Dawkins is saying.
@Rosetree6 Should the scientist, who is aware of the natural causes and of the factors determining each step of creation towards perfection, of mankind's evolution, of the minute accuracy and exactitude that rules every change in the nature that surrounds us, come to believe that these wondrous laws and amazing interactions have somehow *fortuitously* emerged out of *mindless* matter?
You monkey, Jesus loves you and has given his life to save your miserable life. Convert, accept Jesus in your heart because only HIM is the Lord of everything. Such a stupid guy like Dawkins I never seen in my whole life. I hope Jesus will have pity on him ...
@sarotran Which Jesus are you referring to? You realize he is in a long line of sons of gods who died for his people don't you, many of whom were born to a virgin, and traveled around preaching? Jesus was not the first. You, however will likely refute this without looking it up. Most do.
Dead-to-the-spirit deluded "God Delusion" author & blithering fool scientist goon Richard Dawkins another "leader" given to the profane masses is another useful idiot for Jesuit machinations-C.O.
Jesuitical: pertaining to the Jesuits or their principals; designing; cunning; deceitful; prevaricating
The Jesuit Order completely altered the education system to suit their Evo-Hoax agenda to discredit the Bible. They cant have a Satanic society of 'Do as Thou Wilt' if people still follow the Bible
I don't even know where to begin in critiquing the 'very intelligible' Professor Dawkins, who is probably the most presumptuous, audacious atheist I have ever seen in my life.
I am disappointed there are people on thiis page quoting biblical scripture; if you are going to have a rational debate with an atheist you must always refer to historical, scientific, and in a small way philosophical contexts in order to structure a logical argument for God existing, otherwise it is moot and pointless.
@LightRevealsDark There are historical, scientific and logical arguments? I have yet to see one of either. Philosophy, sure. Philosophy is basically the bridge between reality and fantasy.
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The word god is derived form the word dog, a dog will be trying to turn backwards and get to something it can't ever get backwards dog is god in the process it will be turning round and round confused, anything which comes in between will be attacked by it.
There is no such thing as an ex Christian. with belief comes the new birth and you were purchased with the blood of Christ and have become a slave to rightiousness God is Love and humans are made to recieve Gods Love and not only that but inherit the Kingdom of God as well inherit God Himself Greg
@eternitywithjesus888 "Jehovah saves those who desire eternal Life and believe and follow Jesus now its Truth." Where is the evidence of your statement?
@roac7777 sorry it took so long to reply I did not know it was on top.My firends science and supposed conjecture is not evidence that God does not exist in fact" anyone could take a position like Mr. Dawkins with no evolutionary evidence and use an elevated position (athiest) and deny God. The evidence in my statement is the Holy Bible where God speaks to Man through chosen men (Hebrews) and discloses more facts that took to the 18 centurey to explain time force action space matter,Genisis vs 1
@eternitywithjesus888 The point is that atheists like Richard Dawkins and myself take is: There is no evidence that the god Yahweh, the god of the Bible, Koran and Torah, or any other god exists. My disbelief of any god and that of RD is the same as our disbelief in elves, unicorns and dragons. No one can disprove any god or elves, unicorns & dragons but it is extremely unlikely that any of these supernatural creatures exist. The religious have to give us evidence of their god.
@roac7777 Thier is nothing but positive evidence for divine design as the universe and the very creatures are designed for the glory of God. The heavens declare the Glory of the Lord. Think does all existance and matter come from a explosion in space and mutation. Even Mr. Dawkins cannot account for any of the parts of the body including the most safisticated Gift of the Human Mind. While the body is made of soil. (earth) the beath of life or rema comes from source and guidence,(devil exists)
@eternitywithjesus888 Grand rhetoric does not equal evidence or proof. The mind, our thoughts are neurons buzzing around our brains. RD deals with facts not fiction. We, like all life, are here because of evolution through natural selection. The evidence can be found in fossils and also molecular genetics. Your gods and devils are myth, superstition which have no place in the minds of people in the 21st century.
@roac7777 PLEASE go and research fossils and molecular genetics and see how much is really science and how much is really assumption. It's either a matter of un-education, faith or pure laziness that results in an evolutionist. 21st Century and we're still mindless and suck up every false theology that has some good PR! Never mind myth and superstition, human evolution theories are both of these with an extra dollop of stupid.
@AvalonMoon22 I have researched fossils and molecular genetics. Molecular genetics absolutely proves that Darwinian Evolution is correct. You are like the Holocaust denier. I know of no scientist who refutes evolution.
@roac7777 You cannot use micro 'evolution' to prove macro evolution. Scientists who refute macro evolution theories are: John D Barrow, Kenneth R. Miller, Jennifer Wiseman, Martin Nowak, Stephen Barr, Freeman Dyson, Antonino Zichichi, R.J.Berry.....etc. This is what I mean! Believing things in generalizations is dangerous; you've got to research the details.
@AvalonMoon22 Then the "scientists" you have mentioned are a disgrace to their vocation and should not have the title "scientist". Evolution is a scientific fact and all scientists of worth accept that. I trust Richard Dawkins and those real scientists who research and use real science to come to conclusions, not psuedo scientists who confuse science with religion. No doubt the names you put forth are experts in their field but they are also deluded.
@roac7777 By all accounts, Roac, this is faith. Seeing as Macro Evolution is improvable neither through observation nor experimentation you cannot label it a science. It is a WORKING THEORY taken on FAITH that certain ASSUMPTIONS (heavily influenced by the hope that evolution is true) are part of the equation. Belief. Faith. Assumption
Get real. Know the detailed truth before you disgrace simple logic a rationale.
@roac7777 If you understand various scientific theories then you must know that all rely on assumptions. Macro evolution, if you really study the THEORY, relies only on ASSUMPTIONS.
the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through OBSERVATION and EXPERIMENT.
assumption |əˈsəm(p)SHən|: noun:
a thing that is accepted as true or as certain to happen, without proof
@AvalonMoon22 Yes I know what science and assumption mean I do not need an English language lesson. You are wrongly assuming that evolution is not a scientific fact.
the foolishnness of God is greater than the wisdom of men and the weakness of God is greater than the strength of men. He said nothing factual why believe in theory when you could have a relationship with a Living God. Hebrews 10:30 Vengence is mine, I will repay , says the Lord. The lord will judge His people.n It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of a living God.
@05lowell05 The Bible is the authoritative word of God. While I believe thier are evolutions within species Micro evolution I do not believe in macro evolution. Perhops you facts can explain how a catapiller turns into a butterfly, God is in Spirit , thier is air yet you cannot see it thier are milions of mirco waves going through you now and you can't see them. God proclaims in Romans 1 that man can see thee Godhead in creation as well as conciousness.
It is only your opinion that the Bible is the authoritative word of God, I would disagree.
Macro-evolution is confirmed just as much as micro-evolution.
Although I cannot see air, its existence can be indisputably demonstrated using scientific methods; the same cannot be said for God.
I can scientifically explain "creation" and consciousness without the use of God, and even show how it suggests there is no intelligent creator at all.
@05lowell05 explain it then. greg@eternitywithjesus(DOT)org Really Richard does not declare there is no God He only declares it cannot be proven. God is omnipotent, oniscient and omnipresent. The real question is why is there anything at all, the point is, its is present because God has spoke it into existance. When he has determined he will uncreate it and create a new heavens and earth and I pray for all men to be there, however it is clear many will refuse against His plan of Salvation.
Richard Dawkins says the possibility of God is equal with that a unicorn -- it cannot be disproven, but there is no scientifically validated evidence for one.
Even if the universe did testify of a God, which God? Why should I believe in your God instead of Allah, Krishnu, Ahura Mazda, or any other God for that matter?
My argument against creation/consciousness is too big for the comments. We can message if you like.
@05lowell05 Yes well Mr. Dawkins is worthy to follow anywhere. The Truth is He never uses any proof to his jestures and comments. He says He will Believe if anyone can show Him one fact that God exists. He is in a place of unbelief. God will not save anyone who refuses to Believe, the reason is if a person has chose not to believe when He is breathing Gods (Jehovah) air and is sustained by the very food God grows. God saves by faith. Im sorry for Richard because God does not bow a knee to him.
What has Richard Dawkins said that can't be sustained by evidence?
I'm an Ex-Christian and currently a student of religion; likewise, I would believe again if anyone were able to show me actual evidence of the existence of God; however, much of what theists believe to be evidence doesn't prove anything at all.
Who does this guy think he is trying to reason with sheepish Christians and Muslims that have 1 way thinking? Well what ever he is doing...Dawkins please keep it up.
@OhadAlmagorOhad Mark 3 :28-29 Assuredly (Jesus) I say to you, all sins will be forgiven the sons of men, and what ever they may utter, but he who lasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is subject to eternal condemnation- because they said He had an unclean spirit. (about Jesus) listen Romans 8:7-8 For the carnal mind is death, but the spiritual mind is life and peace. because the carnal mind is enmity with God Its not subject to the law of God nor indeed can be.
@OhadAlmagorOhad Mark 3 :28-29 Assuredly (Jesus) I say to you, all sins will be forgiven the sons of men, and what ever they may utter, but he who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is subject to eternal condemnation- because they said He had an unclean spirit. (about Jesus) listen Romans 8:7-8 For the carnal mind is death, but the spiritual mind is life and peace. because the carnal mind is enmity with God Its not subject to the law of God nor indeed can be.
@eternitywithjesus888 My Book 4: 27-31 Assuredly (Ohad the God Almighty) I say to you - you are a fool to believe in fairy tales. Your quotes from some stupid books do not impress me at all, quite the opposite - you look ridiculous.
For this stupid quote, I condemn you to a painful death and eternal suffering in hell. You will be forced to give oral sex to the greatest blasphemer called "Jesus" who rejected my teachings and practiced black magic.
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Well I don't believe in a loving intelligent god. But, I think we can say there is one law that defines the possibility of gods existence, and that is the physical law of conservation of energy. In physics, energy is never created nor destroyed, making in invincible. Also, we must remember the Theory of relativity by the great scientist Albert Einstein. E=MC^2 If energy did not exist we would live in a matter less plane. Hence energy is what created us and makes us exist. Sounds like a god.
@phantomswordsmen You can't assume that there was ever a beginning or nothing. Even if there was a beginning you can't be certain that basic laws such as conservation of energy even apply.
A good lecture on this is "a universe from nothing" lawrence krauss
@cinderblockist You do have a point, many Astrophysicists say before the big bang, the universe was no larger than a centimeter. It was all condensed, so in a sense it was always here. I thank you for the suggestion! I will go an check that out! But, I do like Mr.Dawkin's idea of stopping intolerance towards Atheists. Christan's and all other religions annoy me with such intolerance.
This is not science vs religion as the brain-dead media portrays it. This is Information science vs Neo-Darwinian mythology. Good science vs bad science. Darwinism has to assume itself true to survive, intelligent design relies on empirical investigation in real-time.
The people who criticize Dawkins aren't actually listening closely to what he's saying. They just shut their ears off and think "this man is evil, he's sent by Satan to deceive me".
@dannywizz Explain. Cause if you mention characters such as Stalin, I'd raise you religious actions such as the Holocaust, The Inquisition, and the war on terror.
Wow, Richard Dawkins committed a huge non-sequitur within the first minute. Just because something will raise more questions doesn't mean it won't be of any help to finding the origin of something. By his logic, M theory won't help either.
How exactly does M theory raise more questions than it answers? Last time I checked, it was supposed to explain nearly everything about the known universe.
@chebob2009 It raises the questions, what makes those universes? What forces are behind its creation? What conditions are required for a universe to be created? Where are these universes? What evidence is there that they exist? Does anything exist in them? How much more different are they? How many are there? Thats just a few I could think of. It raises at least 8 questions as a consequence of answering 1. 8 is more than 1.
Saying that M-theory only answers 1 question is a profoundly ignorant claim. M-theory also answers at least 3 of those questions you've given. I'm not convinced you know much about it.
@chebob2009 Maybe I don't. But still 5 questions is more than 3. All I really know about M theory is it claims that there are multiple universes. And it has something to do with 11 dimensions. It also overlaps with string theory.
M-theory is potentially a theory of everything. Google "theory of everything". If verified by experiment, it could potentially answer every question about the physical universe. That's not 3 questions, it's billions. It doesn't overlap with string theory, it's the attempt to unify the various string theories.
Well the multiverse isn't an actual theory (note the correct definition of 'theory'- not the 'it's only a theory' misuse). It's a possible implication of M-theory though. I believe there a few different versions of the multiverse idea, as implied by different theories. I don't entirely understand the various aspects to be honest- which is rather embarassing as I have a degree in maths...
@chebob2009 Nice, a math major. I'm not very good at math (I have to use my fingers still sometimes haha!) I also tried biology and didn't work out for me. I'm more of a philosopher but my major is actually justice studies.
I was definitely confusing M theory with multiverse theory, concept, whatever. I have watched documentaries about M theory but I think I kinda just assumed that they were the same.
Oh it's much worse than that! I'm british, not american. We have no 'majors' and 'minors'. If you get a degree in maths in the UK, it means you did 4 years of nothing but maths. So in principle I should probably understand M-theory. I can just barely grasp the maths behind general relativity. Maths and philosophy are quite similar. Although I'd argue numbers are more reliable than words...
If he would've said unicorns are no more disprovable than God, that would've been something debatable.. But he instead said they are no more likely to exist. To me the difference lies in explanatory power. What phenomena does a unicorn or toothfairy explain? What phenomena does a transcendent creative intelligence explain? For example, the existence of time, space, order, life, consciousness, and personal experience and experience of meaning and purpose, and more. unicorns don't explain this
@peacewalker7 God doesn't explain them either. Postulating god as an explanation to these things is just giving an author to them, it doesn't actually explain why, how, when etc.... how a process works (which would be an actual explanation, like the scientific method does it). It is the god of the gaps fallacy at best. At worst it's just special pleading, wishful thinking and a big argument from ignorance.
@byteresistor Of course man, there's youtube's comment page is not big enough to make an argument and even that might be impossible in the vein of a mathematical proof. However I'm only asking why are unicorns even in the same category as a transcendent God- the defintion of which I mean an eternal/transcendent creative force that is also personal- i.e. mental. This isn't the place to give a whole positive arguments but just fun comments :)
@peacewalker7 "why are unicorns even in the same category as a transcendent God"
Because they both have an equal amount of evidence in favor of them (ie none), no matter if one thinks the other gives meaning and purpose to the universe while the other one doesn't. And then there's also the issue of what you just did: "eternal/transcendent creative force" - even more baseless assumptions which do not explain anything. It's actually just trying to shift the burden of having to explain it.
@byteresistor (cont)... Because before you can postulate that god is an "eternal/transcendent creative force", you would first have to show that god exists to begin with. That's how good arguments are made. First you make an argument and then you give evidence of why it is true, then you proceed to your next argument and so on... What you just did was just present an argument after an argument without stopping to explain the previous one before presenting the next one.
@byteresistor That's exactly what I mean! Both God and unicorns are perhaps both impossible to prove or disprove, and in that sense they should be in the same category. But Dawkins said "[God] is no more likely to exist than the tooth fairy." 'No more likely to exist' is not the same as 'equally impossible to prove"- i.e. scientifically w/ the 5 senses. But if you could see God with the 5senses, you probably wouldn't think he's God anyways so it's a no win situation. :) :)
Here I am postulating supernatural intelligence and postulating supernatural intelligence for everything I don't understand, like time and space, life and consciousness, order and meaning- i.e. realities and illusions
Yeah, a transcendent supernatural intelligence is no more likely to exist than a spirit dressed with wings that comes and pays money for lost teeth, or for pink horses with horns on their faces. Now that I realize this I'm an atheist. But why not more likely to exist????
There you have it ladies. Have sex with nerds to help the human race involve into a more intelligent, better species. If you don't have sex with nerds, then this is the best we'll ever get. Now do your part ladies.
He would be better off without the use of pink unicorns and spaghetti monster, because those are things we know as fact to be complete fairy tales, and to equate the bible with its history and such as the same evidence as an actual fairy tale is simply ridiculous. He is better off using actual "gods" that were once worshipped because it sounds far more intellectually fair. Use zues, Rah, or any old deity, but keep it intelligent, not using the words simply to belittle the other.
pink unicorns! like the invisible pink unicorn
Boot1998 1 week ago
I suppose he can postulate an answer by saying "evolution". That is his explanation for how we got here... he propogates this delusion at all cost... even to the point of being ridiculous... This backwards theory that says that we came from a rock... then it transformed itself into a monkey and with the help of magical time it became a human... I just don't have enough faith to be an atheist/evolutionist. You might as well believe in the tooth fairy or big foot.
1stupormundi 1 month ago
God is the same yesterday today and forever, this is an eternal TRUTH greg
eternitywithjesus888 1 month ago
@eternitywithjesus888 I don't think you understand the definition of truth. God =/= truth
IOutDoSyndicate 1 month ago
@roac777 you are very right that there is a great dea of evidence supporting the theory of evolution; and to disregard such evidence would be ignorance. however, there is a great lack of evidence supporting the ideas presented in the "Big Bang theory". and supposing this theory is valid, who is to say that it was not the result of the will of an unknown power? And supposing the big bang theory is not correct, what evidence is there to oppose the idea that life is not designed?
TheEldestMartinez 1 month ago
@TheEldestMartinez This backwards theory that says that we came from a rock... then it transformed itself into a monkey and with the help of magical time it became a human... I just don't have enough faith to be an atheist/evolutionist. You might as well believe in the tooth fairy or big foot
1stupormundi 1 month ago
God is our Hope and Salvation
eternitywithjesus888 1 month ago
The cross is foolishness to those who are perishing but to those who are being saved , it is the POWER of God. 1 corinthians 1-18 why would you perish when you can be saved from the wrath to come. God has demonsrated His power over death and sin what more could you want than to spend eternity with the creator.(self existing one)
eternitywithjesus888 2 months ago 3
He has to get tired of being right 100% of the time..wish i was him ha
PastaAndMuffins 2 months ago 5
I love hearing Richard Dawkins say "pink unicorns".
Strictlypointless 2 months ago 2
Whats wrong with big questions about God
kingdomforsinners 3 months ago
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zeitguy311 3 months ago
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With all the advances in quantum physics and string theory, it's hard to believe that so many people still doubt the existence in God. But it's even harder to believe that people are so ignorant that they come up with such ideas as Chaos theory. It's truly sad to see how ignorant and pompous humankind has become. Then again, it's almost always been this way. God help us all..youtube.com/watch?v=cCTuiugo7mU youtube.com/watch?v=0hQFO6ugWxU&feature=related
simonmathew615 3 months ago
God is spirit and is probley not interested in going into a test tube. suggesting evidence and proof is simple , because I believe in Christ as my saviour His presence and the Holy spirit live within me. I will tell you thier is most definitely a Devil and He is not alone, He was and is a murderer and a lair from the BEGINING and the father of lies, beware you suffer the same fait as Him which is a lake of fire of sulpher and brimstone. Truth and Spirit are the urgent factors of life friend greg
eternitywithjesus888 4 months ago
@eternitywithjesus888 God makes a place like hell but he loves you holy shit
pimpss88 3 months ago
@pimpss88 Hell was made for God's enemy Lucifer, a covering cherib angle, (the most powerful CREATURE ever made, as He led a rebellion against God And God cast Him out of Heaven, His ultimate destiny is the lake of fire. God is light and God is Love and he must judge sin as he is Holy and Righteouse. God desires all men to be saved however the truth is some love thier sin rather than make Jesus Christ thier Lord and saviour. Man makes prison to house offenders question is why can't GOD. greg
eternitywithjesus888 3 months ago
@eternitywithjesus888 yes and he sends people who dont belive in him there am i right?and yes he created evil Isaiah 45:7I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace,AND CREATE EVIL: I the LORD do all these things. so if someone believes in jesus they can go to heaven even hitler but those poor jews who did not will burn if they dont convert am i right
pimpss88 3 months ago
@pimpss88 Look you will have to take that up with Jehovah. He never asked me to answer for Him so you may mock who you think He is, the truth is thier is only- Truth and Error, do you believe you are qualified to judge God. Job in the Bible questioned God and God responded where were you when I laid the foundations of the world and son on, the question is not who God is He reveals Himself in scripture, so everyone can see the Truth, The question is who are you?
eternitywithjesus888 3 months ago
He is God and He does what He pleases, He has given you a life to assist Him to destroy the works of the Devil, The origin of Evil, Christ has provided an antidote to right the wrongs of evil so why not Join Christ in the redemption of man. After all God created everything perfect in the begining and it was His creation that transgressed against Gods perfect pristine work. How do you find fault with a God that is set on fixing created beings mistake He is true to His word The Bible. greg.
eternitywithjesus888 3 months ago
@eternitywithjesus888 He is Santa and He does what He pleases, He has given you a life to assist Him to destroy the works of the Terminator, The origin of Evil, Thor has provided an antidote to right the wrongs of evil so why not Join Twilight Sparkle in the redemption of man. After all Santa created everything perfect in the begining and it was His creation that transgressed against Santa's perfect pristine work. How do you find fault with a Santa blah blah....
Same logic, same bullshit.
paz2001 3 months ago
@eternitywithjesus888 Prove one thing you said.
You won't because you can't.
Discussion over.
ninjajesus81 2 months ago
@pimpss88 Jehovah, (Father, Son, Holy Spirit.) God saves by His mercy, He commands all men(every person) to repent as heard in Isaiah 1 "Come now, let us reason togeather say's the Lord", though your sins be like scarlet they shall be white as snow, though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool, If You are willing and obedient, you shall eat of the good of the land, But if you refuse and rebel, You shall be devoured by the sword; the mouth of the Lord has spoken. Greg
eternitywithjesus888 3 months ago
@eternitywithjesus888 "But if you refuse and rebel, You shall be devoured by the sword" Ahh, good ol' Christianity. Bringing Peace and Love to everyone. Even you. And you will love it. Or else.
TomFynn 2 months ago
@TomFynn Jesus said " I have not come to bring peace but a sword." He is not fooling around friend.greg He came as a lamb for the slaughter, to redeem men from sin and death, when He comes back a second time He is coming as the Lion of the tribe of Judea. Make straight paths for the Lord
eternitywithjesus888 2 months ago
@eternitywithjesus888 Tell your doctor to up your dosis of Prozac. Way up.
TomFynn 2 months ago
@pimpss88 what else can he do if you reject him and his saviour JESUS CHRIST.
eternitywithjesus888 1 month ago
@eternitywithjesus888 saviour from what?
Helge129 1 month ago
@eternitywithjesus888 I suspect you aren't for real; some kind of internet comedian. If this isn't the case then I suggest you broaden your narrow mind.....
belwoodzzzz 3 months ago
@eternitywithjesus888 Look I am going to give you a tip please do not take this in any other way than me trying to be helpfull.I respect your belief.just watch out for trolls on here they can be mean.although i disagree with you i wish nothing but the best and hope god if he exists is alot nicer than he seems in the bible.peace
pimpss88 3 months ago
Thier is not a war between science and God please understand that Christianity is a Faith and has religiouse aspects. Satan is a Decever and who has plagued this world with millions of religions to add subterfuge against the Truth of Jesus Christ. Jehovah wants to save a lost world and People (some ) are satified with an time bound earthly existance instead of the eternal life God offers through the Gospel.(good news) Find worth in your creator and you all know within who that is Jehovah
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youneekk 4 months ago
i hope some day soon people see the truth that we don't know it all, but to put all your faith into a religion and just accept that "that's just the way god wants it" is just as stupid as joining a cult (yes that's what it is) And i love to see Christians taking such offense in the name of their god. Are the gods of other cultures meaningless? are you so sure that yours is the true god? Not just a story passed down 2000+ years.
harloquin666 4 months ago
The atheist Delusion!
How could some of the scientists permit themselves to make a claim that would necessitate knowledge as extensive as the scheme of the universe, when their knowledge of the total scheme of being is *close* to zero, when confronted with a whole mass of unknowns concerning this very earth and tangible, lifeless matter, let alone the whole universe?
1tabligh 4 months ago
@1tabligh Could you repeat that in English? I don't speak shaman.
skywize 4 months ago
@skywize Do scientific discoveries and knowledge cause such a scientist to conclude that matter, *unknowing and unperceiving *, is his creator and that of all beings?
No?
Then how can the atheists and some of the scientists delude themselve and *believe* that hydrogen and oxygen, electrons and protons, should first produce themselves, then be the source for all other beings, and finally decree the laws that regulate themselves and the rest of the material world?
1tabligh 4 months ago
@1tabligh I am no scientist, but I do not believe any of these materials are assumed to have 'produced themselves'. Nothing produces itself. As for adding a god to the mix... why? We know that something was the cause of something else, you are right, this is obvious. This does not mean it is a god. Dunes were not created by a landscaper, they were created by the wind out of sand. Not everything needs a designer.
skywize 4 months ago
@skywize What is called science by the *science-worshippers* of the present age and regarded by them as equivalent to the sum total of *reality*, is simply a collection of laws applicable to a single dimension of the world. The result of all human effort and experimentation is a body of knowledge concerning a minute bright dot comparable to the dim light of a candle-surrounded by a dark night enveloping a huge desert of indefinite extent.
All praise is due to ALLAH, the Lord of the Universe.
1tabligh 4 months ago
@1tabligh I, personally don't worship science, or anything for that matter... ok, Jennifer Love Hewitt, perhaps... I simply understand science as a way of perceiving the world. I have found that, regardless of what I am studying at the time, science never seems to contradict itself as my first religion did. I have also found that while science seems to improve things in most cases, the religions of the world do the opposite.
skywize 4 months ago
@skywize Also, please understand, I do not wish to simply dump on people's faith. I see a great many sad things in this world. People are suffering and dying. Sometimes religion is not the cause, but most of the time it is. Would you not rather a world of people that don't look at each other with disdain for no other reason but that they believe in other gods? People hate each other and kill each other for gods they can't even prove exist. It hurts to see it over and over.
skywize 4 months ago
@skywize ....science never seems to contradict itself as my first religion did....
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The atheist Delusion!
Your delusions that science has put out the notion of God is purely *rhetorical* and has nothing to do with logical method, because even thousands of scientific experiments could not possibly suffice to demonstrate that no non-material being or factor exists.
Your claim is nothing more than a *fanatical* illusion based on unproven theories.
1tabligh 4 months ago
Views such as these derive directly from a system of thought centered on materialism; within it, everything is defined and delimited with reference to materialism.
To interpret materialism in such a sense is in the final analysis strictly meaningless; it would be a superstitious notion involving the perversion of truth, and to regard it as scientific would, in fact, be *treason* to science.
Even if the followers of a religious school of thought had no proofs for their claim,
1tabligh 4 months ago
to conclude firmly and forcibly that non- being reigns beyond the sensory realm would be a non-scientific choice, based on imagination and speculation.
Some people try to propagate this *fantasy* in the garb of science and to present their choice as having been dictated by scientific thought. In the final analysis, however, the denial involved in such an assertion is unworthy of science and philosophy, and even *contradicts* empirical logic.
1tabligh 4 months ago
@1tabligh I do not completely deny a creator of some sort. I don't believe it, but I won't deny the possibility. I will say, however that the god described in the bible does not exist. The god of the bible MUST conform to the description, or it negates itself. Since there is evidence against the bible being remotely true, THAT god does not exist. I, however do not know enough about Allah, or the slew of other gods out there to comment on them. The most believable faith is Deism or Pantheism.
skywize 4 months ago
@skywize ...other gods out there ...
___ make a claim of ONE God ( Allah, Lord, Gud, Khuda, etc ) then I will produce the evidence to back it up!
Anyone who claims of "...other gods out there ..." etc or anything for that matter has to back it up!
You do not need to disprove the divinity of "...other gods out there ... " etc or Jesus or Mohammad or any other human being.
But if you claim the divinity of anyone besides God, you need to prove your claim.
1tabligh 4 months ago
If someone claims that you are an angel, he has to prove it. I do not need to prove that you are a man because you appear as a man and have all the attributes of a man.
The one who claims that you are an angel is supposed to prove what he claims, because his claim is contrary to the common sense and to what appears as the actual fact.
When a person says that Jesus or Mohammad is a man, and not a God, he agrees with the accepted definition.
1tabligh 4 months ago
Jesus lived like a man, looked like a man, slept as a man, ate as a man, and was persecuted like one. None of these facts need proof. This is not the case with the one who claims his divinity.
His claim is opposed to the common knowledge. Therefore, he, and no one else, has to provide the evidence for his claim.
Although the Muslims are not supposed to provide any evidence for the denial of the divinity of ""...other gods out there .., they can present more than one evidence.
1tabligh 4 months ago
If numerous gods ruled over the world and each of these gods acted and gave commands in accordance with his own will, the order of the universe would dissolve into anarchy.
If there were, in the heavens and the earth, other gods besides Allah, there would have been confusion in both! but glory to Allah, the Lord of the Throne: (High is He) above what they attribute to Him!
Quran 21: 22
1tabligh 4 months ago
Man's religious ties are an outgrowth of his nature, and materialism is something opposed to his nature. In accordance with his specific make-up, man will create his own god if he does not discover the true God, and the god he discovers may be nature or historical inevitability. This fa;we god takes the place of the true God with respect to comprehensiveness of authority, effectiveness of decree, and capacity to guide man on a certain path and propel him forward,
1tabligh 4 months ago
unhindered by anyone's desires. This is the source of the trade in false gods, the adherence to the new idolatry, that would cruelly sacrifice God to history and exchange a pearl for a bead. Alas that so many people smitten with self-inflicted abjection have bowed down before the idol they themselves have fashioned and deified! They have turned away from the peerless creator and willingly accepted the polluting disgrace of such misdirected worship.
1tabligh 4 months ago
Those who refuse to worship God find themselves prostrating before their inner idol; passion and desire rule every dimension of their beings.
Self-worship is a dangerous sickness that with its different manifestations in the individual and social life of man entails the most tragic misfortunes and disorders. It creates a powerful barrier between man and the truth and results in the breakdown of man's capacities of perception and the blinding of his inner being.
1tabligh 4 months ago
The Qur'an says: "Do you not see the one who takes his own desires as god? God has made him go astray, despite his possession of knowledge; He has placed a seal on his ears and his heart and drawn a curtain of darkness over his eyes. Who other than God can guide him? Will you then not take heed?" (45:23)
1tabligh 4 months ago
Unless a man is possessed of a firm and stable faith he remains a stranger to the ways of those who know God. His scepticism grows. He regards as acceptable whatever in life coincides with scientific thought and reading.He discounts anything that his sciences do not prove or even try to prove for him.
1tabligh 4 months ago
The basis of religious thinking is thus left untilled and untended. He considers undeserving of attention any problem which cannot be taken in isolation from all religion, be judged by its outward appearance, and proved by experiment. Having grown used to scientific language, with its formulae and equations, he regards religious matters as lightweight and commonplace.
1tabligh 4 months ago
When the experimental sciences demonstrate that the elements and natural facrtors cannot exert any independent influence and do not possess any creativity; when all of our experiences, our sensory feelings, and our rational deductions point to the conclusion that nothing occurs in nature without a reason and cause and that all phenomena are based on an established system and specific laws, when all of this is the case, it is surprising that some people turn their backs on scientific principles,
1tabligh 4 months ago
primary deductions and propositions based on reflection, and deny the existence of the Creator.
Now, too, in the age of science and technology, when man has found his way into space, a considerable number of scientists have a religious outlook as part of the intellectual system; they have come to believe in the existence of a creator, a source for all beings, not only by means of the heart and the conscience, but also through deduction and logic.
1tabligh 4 months ago
@skywize The most believable faith is Deism or Pantheism.
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Nope!
Human faculties of conception, perception and learning, and attributes of volition, intuition and apprehension cannot catch sight of His Person or fathom the extent of His Might and Glory. Reason and sagacity cannot visualise Him. His Attributes cannot be fixed, limited or defined.
1tabligh 4 months ago
There is no difference between His Person and His Attributes, and His Attributes should not be differentiated or distinguished from His Person. Whoever accepts His Attributes to be other than His Person then actually forsakes the idea of Unity of God and believes in duality ( He and His Attributes). Such a person in fact believes Him to exist in Parts. One who holds such a faith cannot form a true concept of God, he is IGNORANT and will always try to believe in some *creation* of his
1tabligh 4 months ago
*imagination as his god.*
Intelligence, understanding and attainment cannot attain the depth of knowledge to study or scrutinise the Godhead. None can fully understand or explain His Being however hard he my try. There do not exist words in any language to specify or define His qualities, peculiarities, characteristics and singularities. He has not permitted human mind to grasp the Essence of His Being ***YET*** He has not prevented them from realising His Presence.
1tabligh 4 months ago
@1tabligh Oh never mind, your just trolling. Is this stuff copied and pasted from Doctor Craig's website? It's crap, he's a snake oil salesman. I should have recognized the language immediately. You are done trolling me, kid. I won't read nor respond to you. Fuck off.
skywize 4 months ago
@skywize What is called science by the *science-worshippers* of the present age and regarded by them as equivalent to the sum total of *reality*, is simply a collection of laws applicable to a single dimension of the world. The result of all human effort and experimentation is a body of knowledge concerning a minute bright dot comparable to the dim light of a candle-surrounded by a dark night enveloping a huge desert of indefinite extent.
All praise is due to ALLAH, the Lord of the Universe.
1tabligh 4 months ago
Fuck off.
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So much science for this uncivilized brainless pseudo-Scientific Demagogue!
The argument of an IGNORANT!
Hiding your ignorance and arrogance under your stupid pretext of "Fuck off. "!
Dodging ALL the questions and quibbling in vain!
Is science too heavy for you to comprehend?
Ever heard "Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference."?
1tabligh 4 months ago
@1tabligh You are clueless, but at least you supply comic relief. Keep commenting, please. You're winning people over to the atheist viewpoint!
ndrthrdr1 4 months ago
@ndrthrdr1 Then how can the duped and brainwashed atheists delude themselve and believe that hydrogen and oxygen, electrons and protons, should first produce themselves, then be the source for all other beings, and finally decree the laws that regulate themselves and the rest of the material world?
Dodging ALL the questions and quibbling in vain!
1tabligh 4 months ago
You still don't get it, do you?
I have already in my inbox more then 11464 replies from wannabes monkeys, teachers, profs, scientists etc!
What makes you think, you are a special duped wannabe monkey?
No wasting time!
Talk science and answer the questions otherwise clock off!
The chain of causality cannot recede into infinity!!!!!
Stupid brainless cuckoo atheist with asinine mind!
1tabligh 4 months ago
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In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful.
1 Say: He is Allah, the One and Only;
2 Allah, the Eternal, Absolute;
3 He begetteth not, nor is He begotten;
4 And there is none **** like **** unto Him.
The Quran Chapter 112
1tabligh 4 months ago
@1tabligh Believe that electrons and protons "produce themselves"?? Of all the hundreds of thousands of scientific articles available, could you please point out at least one which makes this claim?
No? That's what I thought. Please press play again and, for the first 30 seconds, make an attempt to actually listen to what Dawkins is saying.
Rosetree6 4 months ago
@Rosetree6 Should the scientist, who is aware of the natural causes and of the factors determining each step of creation towards perfection, of mankind's evolution, of the minute accuracy and exactitude that rules every change in the nature that surrounds us, come to believe that these wondrous laws and amazing interactions have somehow *fortuitously* emerged out of *mindless* matter?
1tabligh 4 months ago
To everyone arguing in the comments: /watch?v=Lj1eXdTOvWs
TheIncredibleD1701 4 months ago
Jesus loves me ? He's gay then. Disgusting pervert.
JohnS1704 4 months ago
You monkey, Jesus loves you and has given his life to save your miserable life. Convert, accept Jesus in your heart because only HIM is the Lord of everything. Such a stupid guy like Dawkins I never seen in my whole life. I hope Jesus will have pity on him ...
sarotran 4 months ago
@sarotran Which Jesus are you referring to? You realize he is in a long line of sons of gods who died for his people don't you, many of whom were born to a virgin, and traveled around preaching? Jesus was not the first. You, however will likely refute this without looking it up. Most do.
skywize 4 months ago
@sarotran You are like a borg out of star trek,forcing your beliefs on people hes an athiests its not your business or anyone elses.
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standingontruth1 4 months ago
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Dead-to-the-spirit deluded "God Delusion" author & blithering fool scientist goon Richard Dawkins another "leader" given to the profane masses is another useful idiot for Jesuit machinations-C.O.
Jesuitical: pertaining to the Jesuits or their principals; designing; cunning; deceitful; prevaricating
The Jesuit Order completely altered the education system to suit their Evo-Hoax agenda to discredit the Bible. They cant have a Satanic society of 'Do as Thou Wilt' if people still follow the Bible
SpencerBenedict2nd 4 months ago
I don't even know where to begin in critiquing the 'very intelligible' Professor Dawkins, who is probably the most presumptuous, audacious atheist I have ever seen in my life.
I am disappointed there are people on thiis page quoting biblical scripture; if you are going to have a rational debate with an atheist you must always refer to historical, scientific, and in a small way philosophical contexts in order to structure a logical argument for God existing, otherwise it is moot and pointless.
LightRevealsDark 5 months ago
@LightRevealsDark There are historical, scientific and logical arguments? I have yet to see one of either. Philosophy, sure. Philosophy is basically the bridge between reality and fantasy.
skywize 4 months ago
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lightandbeautiful 5 months ago
Heh. Taking care of morons is stopping human evolution. If we want to continue to evolve perhaps creationists should be made useful in some way...
GenghisCohen1 5 months ago
The word god is derived form the word dog, a dog will be trying to turn backwards and get to something it can't ever get backwards dog is god in the process it will be turning round and round confused, anything which comes in between will be attacked by it.
Warxyph 5 months ago
Well siad Proffesor Dawkkins after reading the commensts of the God squad I think I might become an atheist
swingfire0011 5 months ago
absolute conjecture, I thank God for the supreme Truth of Jesus Christ. The just shall live by Faith greg
eternitywithjesus888 5 months ago
There is no such thing as an ex Christian. with belief comes the new birth and you were purchased with the blood of Christ and have become a slave to rightiousness God is Love and humans are made to recieve Gods Love and not only that but inherit the Kingdom of God as well inherit God Himself Greg
eternitywithjesus888 5 months ago
@eternitywithjesus888 that doesn't sound very loving to me, it sounds like hocus pocus brainwashing nonsense.
ec123456789able 5 months ago
@ec123456789able Jehovah saves those who desire eternal Life and believe and follow Jesus now its Truth.greg
eternitywithjesus888 5 months ago
@eternitywithjesus888 like i said, hocus pocus brainwashing nonsense
ec123456789able 5 months ago
@eternitywithjesus888 "Jehovah saves those who desire eternal Life and believe and follow Jesus now its Truth." Where is the evidence of your statement?
roac7777 5 months ago
@roac7777 sorry it took so long to reply I did not know it was on top.My firends science and supposed conjecture is not evidence that God does not exist in fact" anyone could take a position like Mr. Dawkins with no evolutionary evidence and use an elevated position (athiest) and deny God. The evidence in my statement is the Holy Bible where God speaks to Man through chosen men (Hebrews) and discloses more facts that took to the 18 centurey to explain time force action space matter,Genisis vs 1
eternitywithjesus888 4 months ago
@eternitywithjesus888 The point is that atheists like Richard Dawkins and myself take is: There is no evidence that the god Yahweh, the god of the Bible, Koran and Torah, or any other god exists. My disbelief of any god and that of RD is the same as our disbelief in elves, unicorns and dragons. No one can disprove any god or elves, unicorns & dragons but it is extremely unlikely that any of these supernatural creatures exist. The religious have to give us evidence of their god.
roac7777 4 months ago
@roac7777 Thier is nothing but positive evidence for divine design as the universe and the very creatures are designed for the glory of God. The heavens declare the Glory of the Lord. Think does all existance and matter come from a explosion in space and mutation. Even Mr. Dawkins cannot account for any of the parts of the body including the most safisticated Gift of the Human Mind. While the body is made of soil. (earth) the beath of life or rema comes from source and guidence,(devil exists)
eternitywithjesus888 4 months ago
@eternitywithjesus888 Grand rhetoric does not equal evidence or proof. The mind, our thoughts are neurons buzzing around our brains. RD deals with facts not fiction. We, like all life, are here because of evolution through natural selection. The evidence can be found in fossils and also molecular genetics. Your gods and devils are myth, superstition which have no place in the minds of people in the 21st century.
roac7777 4 months ago 11
@roac7777 PLEASE go and research fossils and molecular genetics and see how much is really science and how much is really assumption. It's either a matter of un-education, faith or pure laziness that results in an evolutionist. 21st Century and we're still mindless and suck up every false theology that has some good PR! Never mind myth and superstition, human evolution theories are both of these with an extra dollop of stupid.
AvalonMoon22 2 days ago
@AvalonMoon22 I have researched fossils and molecular genetics. Molecular genetics absolutely proves that Darwinian Evolution is correct. You are like the Holocaust denier. I know of no scientist who refutes evolution.
roac7777 2 days ago
@roac7777 You cannot use micro 'evolution' to prove macro evolution. Scientists who refute macro evolution theories are: John D Barrow, Kenneth R. Miller, Jennifer Wiseman, Martin Nowak, Stephen Barr, Freeman Dyson, Antonino Zichichi, R.J.Berry.....etc. This is what I mean! Believing things in generalizations is dangerous; you've got to research the details.
AvalonMoon22 2 days ago
@AvalonMoon22 Then the "scientists" you have mentioned are a disgrace to their vocation and should not have the title "scientist". Evolution is a scientific fact and all scientists of worth accept that. I trust Richard Dawkins and those real scientists who research and use real science to come to conclusions, not psuedo scientists who confuse science with religion. No doubt the names you put forth are experts in their field but they are also deluded.
roac7777 2 days ago
@AvalonMoon22 Over 95% of scientists accept evolution I think that says it all.
roac7777 2 days ago
@roac7777 By all accounts, Roac, this is faith. Seeing as Macro Evolution is improvable neither through observation nor experimentation you cannot label it a science. It is a WORKING THEORY taken on FAITH that certain ASSUMPTIONS (heavily influenced by the hope that evolution is true) are part of the equation. Belief. Faith. Assumption
Get real. Know the detailed truth before you disgrace simple logic a rationale.
AvalonMoon22 2 days ago
@roac7777 If you understand various scientific theories then you must know that all rely on assumptions. Macro evolution, if you really study the THEORY, relies only on ASSUMPTIONS.
AvalonMoon22 2 days ago
@roac7777 science |ˈsīəns|: noun:
the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through OBSERVATION and EXPERIMENT.
assumption |əˈsəm(p)SHən|: noun:
a thing that is accepted as true or as certain to happen, without proof
AvalonMoon22 2 days ago
@AvalonMoon22 Yes I know what science and assumption mean I do not need an English language lesson. You are wrongly assuming that evolution is not a scientific fact.
roac7777 1 day ago
the foolishnness of God is greater than the wisdom of men and the weakness of God is greater than the strength of men. He said nothing factual why believe in theory when you could have a relationship with a Living God. Hebrews 10:30 Vengence is mine, I will repay , says the Lord. The lord will judge His people.n It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of a living God.
eternitywithjesus888 5 months ago
@eternitywithjesus888,
You said nothing factual. Why believe in the God hypothesis when you can make better use of your time by studying more plausible concepts?
By the way, you obviously know nothing about the scientific term "theory." Scientifically, Evolution is a fact, whether you like it or not.
If there is a God, good, I highly doubt he cares if I believe in him or not, seeing as how he's done such a terrible job of making himself known.
05lowell05 5 months ago
@05lowell05 your construct of a theory is not backed up by archiology weresthe mutation .
eternitywithjesus888 5 months ago
@05lowell05 The Bible is the authoritative word of God. While I believe thier are evolutions within species Micro evolution I do not believe in macro evolution. Perhops you facts can explain how a catapiller turns into a butterfly, God is in Spirit , thier is air yet you cannot see it thier are milions of mirco waves going through you now and you can't see them. God proclaims in Romans 1 that man can see thee Godhead in creation as well as conciousness.
thier is lots of light and God made it
eternitywithjesus888 5 months ago
@eternitywithjesus888,
It is only your opinion that the Bible is the authoritative word of God, I would disagree.
Macro-evolution is confirmed just as much as micro-evolution.
Although I cannot see air, its existence can be indisputably demonstrated using scientific methods; the same cannot be said for God.
I can scientifically explain "creation" and consciousness without the use of God, and even show how it suggests there is no intelligent creator at all.
05lowell05 5 months ago
@05lowell05 explain it then. greg@eternitywithjesus(DOT)org Really Richard does not declare there is no God He only declares it cannot be proven. God is omnipotent, oniscient and omnipresent. The real question is why is there anything at all, the point is, its is present because God has spoke it into existance. When he has determined he will uncreate it and create a new heavens and earth and I pray for all men to be there, however it is clear many will refuse against His plan of Salvation.
eternitywithjesus888 5 months ago
@eternitywithjesus888,
Richard Dawkins says the possibility of God is equal with that a unicorn -- it cannot be disproven, but there is no scientifically validated evidence for one.
Even if the universe did testify of a God, which God? Why should I believe in your God instead of Allah, Krishnu, Ahura Mazda, or any other God for that matter?
My argument against creation/consciousness is too big for the comments. We can message if you like.
05lowell05 5 months ago
@05lowell05 Yes well Mr. Dawkins is worthy to follow anywhere. The Truth is He never uses any proof to his jestures and comments. He says He will Believe if anyone can show Him one fact that God exists. He is in a place of unbelief. God will not save anyone who refuses to Believe, the reason is if a person has chose not to believe when He is breathing Gods (Jehovah) air and is sustained by the very food God grows. God saves by faith. Im sorry for Richard because God does not bow a knee to him.
kingdomforsinners 5 months ago
@kingdomforsinners,
What has Richard Dawkins said that can't be sustained by evidence?
I'm an Ex-Christian and currently a student of religion; likewise, I would believe again if anyone were able to show me actual evidence of the existence of God; however, much of what theists believe to be evidence doesn't prove anything at all.
05lowell05 5 months ago
Who does this guy think he is trying to reason with sheepish Christians and Muslims that have 1 way thinking? Well what ever he is doing...Dawkins please keep it up.
kansaimagic 5 months ago
well im going to come right out and say what everybodys thinking... FUCK YOU GOD!
IDMWEIGHTSIDM 6 months ago 4
@IDMWEIGHTSIDM I second that!
FUCK GOD, FUCK JEHOVAH, FUCK ALLAH, FUCK MOHAMED, FUCK JESUS. FUCK THEM ALL!!!
Religious sensitivity? FUCK THAT TOO - FREEDOM OF SPEECH, MOTHER FUCKERS! Don't like it? Go live in Iran.
OhadAlmagorOhad 6 months ago
@OhadAlmagorOhad Mark 3 :28-29 Assuredly (Jesus) I say to you, all sins will be forgiven the sons of men, and what ever they may utter, but he who lasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is subject to eternal condemnation- because they said He had an unclean spirit. (about Jesus) listen Romans 8:7-8 For the carnal mind is death, but the spiritual mind is life and peace. because the carnal mind is enmity with God Its not subject to the law of God nor indeed can be.
eternitywithjesus888 5 months ago
@OhadAlmagorOhad Mark 3 :28-29 Assuredly (Jesus) I say to you, all sins will be forgiven the sons of men, and what ever they may utter, but he who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is subject to eternal condemnation- because they said He had an unclean spirit. (about Jesus) listen Romans 8:7-8 For the carnal mind is death, but the spiritual mind is life and peace. because the carnal mind is enmity with God Its not subject to the law of God nor indeed can be.
eternitywithjesus888 5 months ago
@eternitywithjesus888 My Book 4: 27-31 Assuredly (Ohad the God Almighty) I say to you - you are a fool to believe in fairy tales. Your quotes from some stupid books do not impress me at all, quite the opposite - you look ridiculous.
For this stupid quote, I condemn you to a painful death and eternal suffering in hell. You will be forced to give oral sex to the greatest blasphemer called "Jesus" who rejected my teachings and practiced black magic.
I PISS ON YOUR STUPID BELIEFS, MORON!!!!
OhadAlmagorOhad 5 months ago
god is hiding from you
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TheServiceWeb 6 months ago
What about white unicorns?
XPSChaos 7 months ago
Well I don't believe in a loving intelligent god. But, I think we can say there is one law that defines the possibility of gods existence, and that is the physical law of conservation of energy. In physics, energy is never created nor destroyed, making in invincible. Also, we must remember the Theory of relativity by the great scientist Albert Einstein. E=MC^2 If energy did not exist we would live in a matter less plane. Hence energy is what created us and makes us exist. Sounds like a god.
phantomswordsmen 7 months ago
@phantomswordsmen You can't assume that there was ever a beginning or nothing. Even if there was a beginning you can't be certain that basic laws such as conservation of energy even apply.
A good lecture on this is "a universe from nothing" lawrence krauss
cinderblockist 7 months ago
@cinderblockist You do have a point, many Astrophysicists say before the big bang, the universe was no larger than a centimeter. It was all condensed, so in a sense it was always here. I thank you for the suggestion! I will go an check that out! But, I do like Mr.Dawkin's idea of stopping intolerance towards Atheists. Christan's and all other religions annoy me with such intolerance.
phantomswordsmen 7 months ago
Dawkins = BOSSy as heck!
ChowZeb 8 months ago
Dawkins is complete genius without a doubt.
matthigh91 8 months ago 11
God is a joke that ONLY Atheists get.
Atheism WINS!
244Ohiro 8 months ago 18
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@244Ohiro Atheism WINS ? Because that's not an immature thing to say.
madass21 5 months ago
@244Ohiro Well no matter how much firm atheist is. He is always afraid to die.
hussanali 4 months ago
@hussanali Moron.
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This is not science vs religion as the brain-dead media portrays it. This is Information science vs Neo-Darwinian mythology. Good science vs bad science. Darwinism has to assume itself true to survive, intelligent design relies on empirical investigation in real-time.
fashklash 8 months ago
Evolution: 0 points
God: 0 points
Ancient Astronauts: 10 points!
prototypo 9 months ago
The people who criticize Dawkins aren't actually listening closely to what he's saying. They just shut their ears off and think "this man is evil, he's sent by Satan to deceive me".
VitalSigns1 9 months ago
Dawkinks, oh Dawkins.....you want to build a society based on atheistic principles, look at history, learn something!
dannywizz 10 months ago
@dannywizz Explain. Cause if you mention characters such as Stalin, I'd raise you religious actions such as the Holocaust, The Inquisition, and the war on terror.
xIJOS3RAMOSIx 9 months ago
@dannywizz
Dawkins and nearly every popular atheist have answered that objection MANY times. Try and raise valid objections only!
chebob2009 9 months ago
atheists are a bore
DeJay14 10 months ago
Afraid of the bigger questions? That whole tooth fairy thing is just snobbery.
JEKAZOL 10 months ago
hes getting a bit near the end of his life now, within seconds he will Know that God is real with his last breath, He will have a lot to answer for.
toiwin 11 months ago
@toiwin Might you explain where you got this knowledge?
Eric13251 11 months ago
@toiwin Indeed. Thor is going to be most displeased with Mr Dawkins.
MoonPhase94 11 months ago
God is not... a man sat on a cloud
redrik11 11 months ago
@redrik11 No, that's Goku.
MoonPhase94 11 months ago
Humans will evolve into machines, just like Bicentennial Man, or A.I.
dLimboStick 1 year ago
Wow, Richard Dawkins committed a huge non-sequitur within the first minute. Just because something will raise more questions doesn't mean it won't be of any help to finding the origin of something. By his logic, M theory won't help either.
nazra7 1 year ago
@nazra7
How exactly does M theory raise more questions than it answers? Last time I checked, it was supposed to explain nearly everything about the known universe.
chebob2009 9 months ago
@chebob2009 It raises the questions, what makes those universes? What forces are behind its creation? What conditions are required for a universe to be created? Where are these universes? What evidence is there that they exist? Does anything exist in them? How much more different are they? How many are there? Thats just a few I could think of. It raises at least 8 questions as a consequence of answering 1. 8 is more than 1.
nazra7 8 months ago
@nazra7
Saying that M-theory only answers 1 question is a profoundly ignorant claim. M-theory also answers at least 3 of those questions you've given. I'm not convinced you know much about it.
chebob2009 8 months ago
@chebob2009 Maybe I don't. But still 5 questions is more than 3. All I really know about M theory is it claims that there are multiple universes. And it has something to do with 11 dimensions. It also overlaps with string theory.
nazra7 8 months ago
@nazra7
M-theory is potentially a theory of everything. Google "theory of everything". If verified by experiment, it could potentially answer every question about the physical universe. That's not 3 questions, it's billions. It doesn't overlap with string theory, it's the attempt to unify the various string theories.
chebob2009 8 months ago
@chebob2009 Perhaps I was confusing multiverse theory with M theory.
nazra7 8 months ago
@nazra7
Well the multiverse isn't an actual theory (note the correct definition of 'theory'- not the 'it's only a theory' misuse). It's a possible implication of M-theory though. I believe there a few different versions of the multiverse idea, as implied by different theories. I don't entirely understand the various aspects to be honest- which is rather embarassing as I have a degree in maths...
chebob2009 8 months ago
@chebob2009 Nice, a math major. I'm not very good at math (I have to use my fingers still sometimes haha!) I also tried biology and didn't work out for me. I'm more of a philosopher but my major is actually justice studies.
I was definitely confusing M theory with multiverse theory, concept, whatever. I have watched documentaries about M theory but I think I kinda just assumed that they were the same.
nazra7 8 months ago
@nazra7
Oh it's much worse than that! I'm british, not american. We have no 'majors' and 'minors'. If you get a degree in maths in the UK, it means you did 4 years of nothing but maths. So in principle I should probably understand M-theory. I can just barely grasp the maths behind general relativity. Maths and philosophy are quite similar. Although I'd argue numbers are more reliable than words...
chebob2009 8 months ago
Where can the full program be downloaded from?
Wrahns 1 year ago
If he would've said unicorns are no more disprovable than God, that would've been something debatable.. But he instead said they are no more likely to exist. To me the difference lies in explanatory power. What phenomena does a unicorn or toothfairy explain? What phenomena does a transcendent creative intelligence explain? For example, the existence of time, space, order, life, consciousness, and personal experience and experience of meaning and purpose, and more. unicorns don't explain this
peacewalker7 1 year ago
@peacewalker7 God doesn't explain them either. Postulating god as an explanation to these things is just giving an author to them, it doesn't actually explain why, how, when etc.... how a process works (which would be an actual explanation, like the scientific method does it). It is the god of the gaps fallacy at best. At worst it's just special pleading, wishful thinking and a big argument from ignorance.
byteresistor 1 year ago
@byteresistor Of course man, there's youtube's comment page is not big enough to make an argument and even that might be impossible in the vein of a mathematical proof. However I'm only asking why are unicorns even in the same category as a transcendent God- the defintion of which I mean an eternal/transcendent creative force that is also personal- i.e. mental. This isn't the place to give a whole positive arguments but just fun comments :)
peacewalker7 1 year ago
@peacewalker7 "why are unicorns even in the same category as a transcendent God"
Because they both have an equal amount of evidence in favor of them (ie none), no matter if one thinks the other gives meaning and purpose to the universe while the other one doesn't. And then there's also the issue of what you just did: "eternal/transcendent creative force" - even more baseless assumptions which do not explain anything. It's actually just trying to shift the burden of having to explain it.
byteresistor 1 year ago
@byteresistor (cont)... Because before you can postulate that god is an "eternal/transcendent creative force", you would first have to show that god exists to begin with. That's how good arguments are made. First you make an argument and then you give evidence of why it is true, then you proceed to your next argument and so on... What you just did was just present an argument after an argument without stopping to explain the previous one before presenting the next one.
byteresistor 1 year ago
@byteresistor That's exactly what I mean! Both God and unicorns are perhaps both impossible to prove or disprove, and in that sense they should be in the same category. But Dawkins said "[God] is no more likely to exist than the tooth fairy." 'No more likely to exist' is not the same as 'equally impossible to prove"- i.e. scientifically w/ the 5 senses. But if you could see God with the 5senses, you probably wouldn't think he's God anyways so it's a no win situation. :) :)
peacewalker7 1 year ago
Here I am postulating supernatural intelligence and postulating supernatural intelligence for everything I don't understand, like time and space, life and consciousness, order and meaning- i.e. realities and illusions
Yeah, a transcendent supernatural intelligence is no more likely to exist than a spirit dressed with wings that comes and pays money for lost teeth, or for pink horses with horns on their faces. Now that I realize this I'm an atheist. But why not more likely to exist????
peacewalker7 1 year ago
i love how he smiles when he talks about the evidence for science :D
naplanz 1 year ago
Dawkins is well hungover there haha, still on top form however. Legend.
Leonhardst 1 year ago
There you have it ladies. Have sex with nerds to help the human race involve into a more intelligent, better species. If you don't have sex with nerds, then this is the best we'll ever get. Now do your part ladies.
AtomicElbowDrop 1 year ago
He would be better off without the use of pink unicorns and spaghetti monster, because those are things we know as fact to be complete fairy tales, and to equate the bible with its history and such as the same evidence as an actual fairy tale is simply ridiculous. He is better off using actual "gods" that were once worshipped because it sounds far more intellectually fair. Use zues, Rah, or any old deity, but keep it intelligent, not using the words simply to belittle the other.
SkinnyWmn69 1 year ago