I love how people on here think that because some one wins, then their way of winning is always correct-boy oh boy are you in for a suprise. and 'iluvmyhorsemay' or whatever it is, so you think that its okay to do whatever to your horse if you want to win? It's amazing how people become so brainwashed by someone who has won, thinking that their way is the only way and that it is the correct way.
dressage is almost like the horses are dancing. :D the go perfectly with the beat, sometimes.... XD horses are wonderful creatures. i praise god that he put them on earth for our enjoyment! they are truely magnificent animals!! god bless everyone! and animals!! have a good day everybody! and help take away horse sloughter!! i did a report on horse sloughter and im pretty sure i got a A++++++++++ lol, or just a 100% . (i hope) have a good day every 1 !!!!! (i already said that, -_- , oh well)
i dont see why people are fighting, but then again i dont care at the moment. :) has anyone ever noticed that the breyer horse they made after keltec salinero is more lighter than the actual horse? keltec salinero is more black, it looks like to me. they made the breyer horse more brown and lighter. but he's still one of my favorite horses i have. :D personally, i love hunterjumping, (my name -_- ) i love being in the air, and being with horses! i used to do dressage, but i like jumping more.
shes the best in the world people.Who do you think you are to say her ridings wrong when shes the best dressage rider in the world? Id like to see you all be a quater as good as her.Until your better then her, dont critize. She obvivously knows what shes doing seeing as shes the best. And haha to "chrissyluvhorsey",you think shes pushing her horse to do too much too fast?ha, shes trained this horse for years and years for these movements.What you think she did it in what like two weeks? idoit.
Yes, I do think she pushes her horses far too much. and yes, rollkur does cause pain. when the horse flexes his neck like that, it causes the nulchar ligaments to overstretch, when it should be relaxed & supple. over time, rollkur causes additional bony growth on the poll, which in turn causes a lot of pain. it impares the horse's breathing and causes back pain & muscle fatigue. so given all of the negative side-effects of rollkur, why is she the best? b/c international judgind is biased...
...because people want to see the big flashy knee action in the extensions (which rollkur produces). because to the every day back yard rider, these images of horses being held BTV, broken at the third vertebrae, and having spectacular knee action is viewed as "correct", whereas images of a horse with the nose IFV, poll at the highest point, and w/o such spectacular knee action is dubbed "incorrect".
There is nothing wrong with what she does. She is doing it right dressage has changed over the years and she is just trying to win and it's ok to try to win and yes she is called the dancing queen for a reason
but at what cost? is a gold medal really worth permanently damaging your horse's neck and poll? is it really worth the pain the hyperflexion causes? is it really worth potentially ruining a horse? theres nothing wrong with wanting to be the best and win, but there has to be a line drawn somewhere. to push your horse to do too much too fast, using false training methods that have been proven to cause irreversible damage just to win is plain selfishness, and thers no excuse for that in my opinion
@chrissyluvhorsey I agree with you wholeheartedly. I'm hoping that she doesn't use any false methods. And I'm hoping that this horse demonstrated the desire and exceptional performance at an early age which made her pursue training him. hoping
@bettylion omfg she dpesnt abuse that horse its happy loomk at its ears and tail wtf do you knoooww and obviously if it was abuse dont ya think the horse would rear?
@GaelicsRose Horses are extremely forgiving creatures and will endure a lot of pain at the request of their rider. There are sored Walker horses winning in the showring. They don't rear or kick as they hobble along in extreme pain.
@GaelicsRose It constitutes abuse for many reasons. The horse cannot see anything except the patch of ground directly in front of his feet. His breathing is restricted. His mouth is assaulted. His entire spinal column is put under strain. Try putting your chin to your chest and then executing a dance routine for an hour. You would be quite unhappy after a few minutes. Rollkur is not a natural posture for the horse.
@GaelicsRose Educate yourself on rollkur and equine anatomy and physiology and then decide. There are scores of veterinarians and dressage riders who oppose this kind of riding. But to people like you, someone a blue ribbon outweights all the other proof? Just because she's winning does not make it right. Unfortunately everyday there are trainers with abusive or questionable practices in the showring and it does not make it "right". Someone has to stand up for the horse's well being.
@GaelicsRose In the showring, Anky does not ride the horse in a rollkur posture. You can find plenty of video online, however, that shows some pretty extreme stuff. In the showring, there is still plenty of evidence that the horse is trained incorrectly. The horse is almost always behind the vertical, which 15 or 20 years ago would have been a HUGE no-no and marked down considerably. For some reason (highly debated) the judges seem to overlook this fault.
@GaelicsRose Constantly behind the vertical, croup-high in the piaffe, these are all telltale signs of riding front to back. The standard comparison is Dr. Klimke on Alherich, there you will see a horse that is free to use his neck and is beautifully expressive as a result. Klimke's training never condoned pulling on the horse's face to train him. Educate yourself and you will begin to see how this is a circus ride compared to classical dressage.
@GaelicsRose I agree that sometimes it can "look pretty". Unfortunately what "looks pretty" is not always correct. That's how Walker horses ended up being abused.... people love the "high action" of the front legs. Learn and watch closely, there is some flashy action here but little going on in the engine, croup is high and hind legs trailing (not truly sitting). Notice the deathgrip on the mouth. I understand how it looks great to the uneducated eye.
@bettylion well i always have a tight grip on my horse bc shes arab and bridals and hangs on it alot. i give her reward by loosing my grip a bit when shes good. same might apply for her horse, you wouldnt know bc you dont ride it ;) every horse is diffrent
Good comment RiyarooChoo , when those of you who are negative about Anky, achieve what she has (3 olympic golds, and all the world cup titles over the years)then you may make a judgment. until then. dont watch the videos if you dont like her! Her and Salinero are GREAT!
This video is a disgusting display of dressage. She sits so stiff in the saddle its no wonder her horse has no movement through his back or neck. Queen of the Kur my ass. Salinero is so tightly kept at the third vertebra that its no wonder he cant get off the forehand once in the whole performance. This is not dressage, if you want to watch real dressage watch anything on La Cadre Noir or The spanish riding school
He is held quite tight but i think you were very rude. I thinkits incredible how he can step virtually perfectly to the music evrytime... I agree, this wasnt their best performance and again! i prefer blue hors matine. and yes, the spanish riding school is beautiful but dont be so ruse please!
if you knew anything about true classical dressage you would know that the Germans and Dutch riders are the best! c'mon! just look at who's dominating in dressage! NOT THE SPANISH RIDING SCHOOL!!!! next time you make a comment like that, make sure you've got all your facts straight! SHEESH!
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How could anyone say her horse is unhappy! Unhappy horses dont win gold medals.. I wish everyone would stop with the anky-bashing, most people on here proberly havent even ridden a dressage test in there lives, and think that they know all about it, so why dont you lot who hate her so much QUIT watching her videos, no ones forceing you to watch them so SHUT THE HELL UP, and if you think she trainer her horses wrong why dont you go and try riding at Grand Prix eh, i would LOVE to see it! Merci.
I could beat her no prob... NOT!!! haha I couldnty even do half of that, get a horse to walk so niceley and not try to put his head down... lol Yea right! Go Anky!!!
At this level it is REQUIRED that you have spurs and a double bridle. You are NOT allowed to compete otherwise. Most of these riders do not ride with a double bridle at home, but a regular bridle.
oh what a load of bullshit she is not abusing her horses dont cary on with such pathetic nosense she is the best dressage rider in the world she has proved that and quite frankly i dont think she would give a rats what you think! Maybe you should go to her place and take all your arguments to her face and see how reiculous you all look, she would pin you down so fast with her fast and correct arguments you wouldnt know what hit you!
I agree with you! Her horse looks unhappy. And now I realize why she moves her feet so much. She has spurs on. I didnt realize that before. Poor horse : (
She may be a good rider but she doesnt need to constantly spur her horse,
actually it does, obviously, you dont know a thing about dressage. you should brush up on subjects you are going to argue about before you start the argument
no, it doesn't. a truely skilled rider would have a horse go off of the slightest of cues, I think spurs and ouble bridles should be banned from dressage as perhaps this would allow for people who rely on such gadgets to fall away from the top and allow for those who have no need for them to start to do half pie decently. Spurs are handy to get a horse to react faster or lift his feet higher but that doesn't make it right, or nessacery.
also continual spurring in frowned upon in dressage as it dulls the horses sensitivity to the leg aids, which is the opposite of what you want in a dressage horse. A horse that is well trained by a sensitive rider doesn't need spurs so it won't get legs aids confused, spurs are totally unnessacery
well yea of course its frowned upon, but this is not based on what should happen, this is whats happening and what will continue to happen, unless some new person decides to come in and somehow manages to get the votes to ban (which i doubt) those items, if you dont recall andreas is a great rider and he has very sensitive hand and leg and he is still at the top, not all dressage riders r like anky, but anky is anky she is good and so is keltec
Ah-lot of dressage competitions like this is required that you use a double bridle and have spurs on cuz it looks more professional. I'm pretty sure Anky wouldn't need spurs to do well in any of the dressage competitions she enters anyways.
if it's for looks alone than that explains everything that has goone wrong in dressage and why you see the farce that you do these days...it's all materialistic. it's all about what looks good. bring back reiner klimke!! :(
Yes but only when your regularly riding, Im sure Keltic could do easily without them. As seen in her trianing videos, but as said its required. So no biggy :D
P.s if you have spurs on it doesn't say you have to use them, even with spurs you can ride your horse on your calves (without using your spurs every two seconds).
If you think she is so bad like RonaPonyyyy said, why is she the most successful dressage rider in the world? And if you think she is so bad, why are watching this video and searching for her?
Don't like it? THEN LEAVE BECAUSE THE REST OF THE WORLD DOES!
That's all bullshit, if she was abusing her horses they wouldn't perform that good...
You all should learn more about all these techniques and how they are used by different people. Because all the problems are caused by people who don't know what they're doing.
If Anky was abusing her horses she wouldn't have been dutch-, european-, world-, and olympic champion several times on different horses...
It annoys the shit out of me that she can only keep him halted for like 0.5 seconds at the end of her test. I can't stand it. As soon as she goes to salute the judge Sailnaro starts to piaffe again. AGHHHH!!!
I have to say i dont really like dressage, if i did it it would be impossible because i have the need to stick my knees far forward with my heels really down, and unless the changed the saddle, i cant do that, and plus alot of the horses movements arent natural (they just train it to them through hours of pain!!) because thats what some people think.
This is the problem: the movements are not natural anymore. The goal of dressage riding was omce the enhancement and support of the horses NATURAL movements to the benefit to the horse in keeping it healthy. Today this it turned ad absurdum. I am sad what has become the standard in the Dressage sport I loved so dearly.
i hate anky. She is a good rider, but she is so violent. Did you know that when she was training Salinero to do piaffe she tied his hind feet together so that he wouldn't move? Yeah, i think its cruel. She uses whips alot, and now, in competitions, she can screw up and they will still giver her points because A) Shes still a good rider and B) because all the judges already know her and she is automatically in the finals which is unfair to other riders who had a chance with her. I thnk its unfair
So you really think Anky is the only one who does that!? (Well I don't know if she does it, I gotta see it before i believe it) but you don't know how the others train there horses, maybe they do it even worse!
and I don't think she trains her horses that cruel, even if it's only because people would see the marks or scars when she has a kur
yes well of course there are people more violent than Anky! But this video is ANKY, no? And i never sid she BEATS them , not enough to have scars, you have ot hit a horse quite hard to leave a scar with a whip, but apparently she did tie his feet together. Im not saying shes a bad rider-either way shes incredible.
You kinda did say she beats them... you said "she uses wips alot" and if u use wips that much I think you could also see it on Salineros behaviour during the kur.
And so if there are more people more violent than Anky why do you post it? Do you post it on all dressage riders and do you add some of your violent infromation to them too?
Anyway I stick to my wn view unless I see her tieyng Salineros feet together
umm, no im soryr i dont go around on videos posting random shit about how violent people are...who would do that? I just found out a few days ago like a week and ahalf ago andit reminded me about it.
BTW, i think its nice that you are sticking to your view, but the second part of that phrase, note how in my previous comment i wrote when SHE WAS TRAINING.-past tense. So i doubt you would see it nowadays.
get your fact right silly, anky is agaist using of the wip if you dont nead it. And I dont belive that she has tied sallis feet togeter until I see it.
I hate her too.. she is really cruel, using a rollkur and a hyperflexion is much more cruel than using a whip... people who admire her dont know anything about the classical art of dressage..
I do agree with you at some points. I don't think she tied Salinero's feet together, and Salinero doesn't really looks like he's being mistreated but when you watch other dressage video's it's quite obvious Salinero doesn't look as relaxed or happy compared to most of the horses.
And yes, she does get the "Anky Points". To be honest, I am Dutch but at the olympic games I watched her and I wanted to win someone else so bad...
I saw her warming up her horses in 2006 at the WEG. I was shocked to say the least. This is not because I favor a German rider over her but because it is a perversion of the sport I love so much. Dressage has become a show, a farce this kind of riding has nothing to do with working on relaxed self confident and naturally expressive horses. And Anky is not the only one forgetting this. German riders are nowhere better than her. We are on a very wrong way.
ever since i started working at a dressage barn with grand prix horses, i have a totally new respect for this. it is so much harder than it looks, and the horses are so finely tuned, any wrong move of your hand or leg, and the horse does something defferent. it is amazing. i got the opportunity to ride a Grand Prix stallion, and it was amazing. this video is great
I was watching this and my 3 year old daughter was watching behind me and she said " mum, i want one of those dancing horses" i couldn't help laughing, but I honestly want one too!
GO ANKY!!!! As for the negative comments, well I say to those people, read some books and study the "ART" of dressage. Do you really think with a panel of world class judges sitting there watching her and her horses every move, they would mark her the way they do if that horse was in ANY type of pain or discomfort. How many Olympics have you people been too?
I agree, read some books and find that a lot of this horse's qualities are totally undesireable in dressage, such as constantly behind the bit.
The FEI's own directives state what should and shouldn't be scored highly, and the judges are for some reason awarding high scores even though the horse is in clear violation of what the FEI describes as desireable qualities.
No one quite knows why they are doing that, and a lot of classically trained people are confused and frustrated by it.
ugghhh this is painfull to watch. to see what dressage has become today is sad. nothing about that was beautifull. that horse is bent at the third vertabre and not engaged in the hind end at all. if you want to see real dressage watch a spanish riding school video. this is nothing but a competitive rider cranking on her horses mouth. shame
A swishing tail can be a sign of a well balanced horse as well as a sign of it being pissed off..... its neck cocked is called shaping up and it helps the horse to devlop its body and use him self better... extending is a doddle for a well balanced and well trained horse like this....its for our enjoyment, the horse so it showcase its great talent......... i dont think its rediculous you could do a lot worse for a horse than train it perfectly and then showcase tis talent!
SEE HOW HE SWISHES HIS TAIL? -the whole time- that horse is pissed off, and having his neck cocked like that and extending has to hurt REALY bad. its rediculous, and for WHAT?
I don't know how old you are but you aren't well versed on horse body language and fine training and a horses actual enjoyment. Have you watched Andreas Helgstrand and Bleu Hors Matine? She swishes her tail throughout and is loving it! Watch the whole body and its parts. You will see the whole differently. Enjoy! (50 years of horses and farms and animals and counting-ss)
I agree with SuperstarShelby, it's also really hard for the rider to give all commands. This summer I didn't ride for about 2 weeks, when I came back on the horse my legs hurt for like 9 days! And I'm even a beginner!
horsebackrider - I wouldnt be talking you tit you're a backayrd rider who rides little paint pony's. Youre an absolute idiot! Piss off with your donkey horses and leave these people alone.
I'm going evrey year to Anky { from the Anky fanclub }
and you can make pictures of the horses and on the picture with anky and much more and Anky and her husband do not train the'r horses on a cruel methods you'r jalurs!
why does anyone have to idolize someone and call others names and tell them to shut up? at this level, all the riders are very good. one day one will win, and the next day another will win. hopefully bambalovertjeeh some day you will mature enough to see this in a less emotional way - i'm sure anky herself would tell you you are wrong, if she read what you wrote. at the top level all the riders are very good with small differences between them and on any day someone else can win.
creulty animal laws are far, far more strict in holland and germany, and this method has been evaluated extensively, stress hormones are less, and there is no indication it's cruel. people definitely don't like how it looks, so many are against it. i have ridden rollkur trained horses in holland - they are very flexible and not at all submissive or unhappy. everyone decide themselves how they want to train their horses, 'it wins' isn't everything. hopefully decide w/out calling names.
and you need to laern that youre not the only one who knows which methods anky is using and that there are different oppinion if its bad or if its is a superb training method.
I'm not saying that my oppinion us the only one and if you look above I did not ONCE say that the training methods that they use are superb or bad, I just said that the methods that they use are rather cruel.
em are you talking to me? YOU think they use cruel methods, some dont and you have to get that INFO in to your little head instead of counting spelling mistakes asshole. As well as I should learn what I am talking about YOU should do the exactly same thing. I have pretty strong eveidence that rollkur is a pretty good method sine Anky have three individul olympi Gold Medals.
dammit all i read on page 6! the REAL Name from Salinero is: Keltec Salinero they calling him IPS Salinero or Salinere UNDERSTAND!?! And bonfire his real name is: Gestion Bonfire and there calling him: Camelon Bonfire or: Bonfire so happy now!?! you're so stupid Jaccko14 and the most SUPID of you all (xD) is: piaffe1 damn evrey1 think Anky is the bad onest no she is the BEST of all! on number 1: Anky van Grunsven with Keltec Salinero on number 2 Isabel
Isabel is n't great yes Isabel did win from Anky with the Grand Prix but
Anky has a GREAT come back with Salinero en
did win from Isabel with the world cup!
so who is better!?!
I can tell you...
Anky van Grunsven Is the Best one and she is my Idol and she rides for the Netherlands and I live there and she is just the BEST one better than you,me,evreybodey! so just SHUT UP oubout Anky van Grunsven cause she's the best and nobody else can defeat her!
this is a french song c'est bizard qu'elle est pris des chanson fransaise !!!! trop sublime this is a very good parcourt das ist eine gut prestation !!!!
Oh, please! Best rider in the world!?! Common, it is soooo obvious you have not been exposed to very much in the horse world. Anky could not ride a horse if her world depended on it. She might be loved in the arena but take her out in the open country on a rigorous trail ride and I bet she folds like a lawn chair.
yes jack piaffe1 is really sad, at first I thought ok she wants to let us now her point of view of anky..fine as long as it dosnt get personal, but drunk in the saddle specially in this performance were she recieved 87% come on, whos the one to say " it is soooo obvious you have not been exposed to very much in the horse world." all of her comment look like if they have been written by a child.
And the fact that anky is rich, you know; many high level dressage riders has a lot of money, guess what! having horses around cost a lot of money, if you didnt know that that its you who dont know shit. I have seen alot of people who just hasnt got the talent to make a horse do a halfpass or whatever but anky is not on of them, cuz clearly she does it in the video here so I don even know why im bringing this up, cant belive im explaining to you that anky infact can ride:)
Minga90ame - Why do people not understand how Anky trains and rides? Its clear that she is one very talented rider, if she was so bad, she would not win everything there is to win. Kyra Kirklund hates the way Anky trains, but whos the better rider? Whos the rider who continues to get top place at every competition? Not Kyra! Anky has made dressage alive, she is what keeps me going, and she has taken dressage to highest. People who cannot see this and choose to critisize, are simply jelous.
Well jimbo4343, really watch this video. I mean really watch it. Does Anky look as if she is in harmony with her mount? I personally believe the whole world has lost the meaning of what dressage is and should be. No I cannot compete in this level. Why? because of money and politics. I know bad excuse but Anky looks like a a wash board riding a horse. The horse looks fine, although it is very sore in the hind end. Anky actually looks like she is drunk ridng. You seriously need to watch this more
Anky looks drunk when she is riding? LOL thats the stupidest thig youve ever said. I have never seen a rider with a better position than her. You are so sad.
is anky is so bad, piaffe 1, then why in this video does she have the background of world cup champion, european champion, olympic champion, etc. you can't seriously mean to say that the high quality judges involved in those competitions didn't know what they were doing?
Wow! It is amazing but true how little understanding you guys have of dressage. Words like harsh and control. They have no place in dressage. It is about flowing with your horse. A dance. An elegant but harmonious choreography between horse and rider. Not a stiff, bouncing up and down, jagged edged, sharpness of a ride. There is no harmony between Anky and any of the horses she rides. Politics and money. No horsemanship here my friends. I bet Anky cannot even tell you what Dressage is!
oh just shut up! i actually dont do dressage per say, but ive been working on the basics for months lately and her movments arnt harsh or stiff, if they were her horses performance would suffer. riding is never about control no matter what you do. the horse you are riding consents to every move you ask him for. in that aspect you are right (wow!) but anky is doing just that. if she wasnt she wouldnt have won. politics my butt.
I would be riding if I had the money and sponcership Anky has. She is a terrible rider, and she is nothing better than training level material. She needs to really focus on her basics. She has a horrible seat, leg and hands. The basic three principles of riding dressage. How can any of you even not see this?! If you have any knowledge of horsemanship at all?! Anky needs to step down. Anyone who truly understands dressage knows this.
If you've ever riden a horse at that level you wouldn't have an imaculate position either. It's amazing how little her body does move. I had the oppertunity to ride a horse with the same level or training as Keltec this year and my body was all over the place. I'm not as skilled as a rider as Anky, but I am good enough that I usually am as still as stone. However, horses that move like that may look smooth, but being in controll you can see how harsh the movements feel.
well maybe you would have the money and the sponcership if YOU had any knowlage of riding and dressage. the things the horse is doing underneith her is the reason for her movment (which isnt much) i think you need to keep your opinions to yours self because aparentallly your just making a fool of yourself.
Here is Anky again. What a horrible rider. Her upper body is not even square with the horse. It sits way back, instead of being suare over her hips. Notice how her upper body leans way back.If we were to draw a straight line through her center, we would have three sections that would not line up. Anky rides as if she forcrs the horse to make movements instead of flowing with the horse. She looks like a pogo stick riding a horse. Anky is great because of money and politics, not because of talent
I do not agree with you, I mean its your opinion. She looks fine, and if Keltec didn't want to do it, he wouldn't. So don't go trash talkin Anky, shes my idle
ok you know what? if you know it all, why arnt you riding instead of her??? "what a horrible rider" my butt. anky is great because she IS great. money and politics have nothing to do with it.
Outstanding!
Paint849 1 year ago
I love how people on here think that because some one wins, then their way of winning is always correct-boy oh boy are you in for a suprise. and 'iluvmyhorsemay' or whatever it is, so you think that its okay to do whatever to your horse if you want to win? It's amazing how people become so brainwashed by someone who has won, thinking that their way is the only way and that it is the correct way.
Aceyfacey3 1 year ago
One thing that never fails to drive me insane is that she DOESN'T HALT!
YaHaWooty 1 year ago
Absolutly Beautiful!!!!
1428dressageluver 1 year ago
stop bickering, this is beautiful riding :)
Jlbubbles13 2 years ago
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SchoeneTischlerin 2 years ago
dressage is almost like the horses are dancing. :D the go perfectly with the beat, sometimes.... XD horses are wonderful creatures. i praise god that he put them on earth for our enjoyment! they are truely magnificent animals!! god bless everyone! and animals!! have a good day everybody! and help take away horse sloughter!! i did a report on horse sloughter and im pretty sure i got a A++++++++++ lol, or just a 100% . (i hope) have a good day every 1 !!!!! (i already said that, -_- , oh well)
hunterjumper9799 2 years ago
i dont see why people are fighting, but then again i dont care at the moment. :) has anyone ever noticed that the breyer horse they made after keltec salinero is more lighter than the actual horse? keltec salinero is more black, it looks like to me. they made the breyer horse more brown and lighter. but he's still one of my favorite horses i have. :D personally, i love hunterjumping, (my name -_- ) i love being in the air, and being with horses! i used to do dressage, but i like jumping more.
hunterjumper9799 2 years ago
does his neck look damaged in any way ? see how supple he is and how relaxed his tail is and his ears are pricked
mallithegr8 2 years ago
Anky is not the best rider in the world actually :) Steffen peters is,
Brandalyn488 2 years ago
Yes of course she's the best rollkur rider in the world but never the best dressage rider !! this is no dressage that's just pain for the horse!
wesIdochNET 2 years ago
prove that its pain then champ
georgialovesmitch 2 years ago
shes the best in the world people.Who do you think you are to say her ridings wrong when shes the best dressage rider in the world? Id like to see you all be a quater as good as her.Until your better then her, dont critize. She obvivously knows what shes doing seeing as shes the best. And haha to "chrissyluvhorsey",you think shes pushing her horse to do too much too fast?ha, shes trained this horse for years and years for these movements.What you think she did it in what like two weeks? idoit.
georgialovesmitch 2 years ago
Yes, I do think she pushes her horses far too much. and yes, rollkur does cause pain. when the horse flexes his neck like that, it causes the nulchar ligaments to overstretch, when it should be relaxed & supple. over time, rollkur causes additional bony growth on the poll, which in turn causes a lot of pain. it impares the horse's breathing and causes back pain & muscle fatigue. so given all of the negative side-effects of rollkur, why is she the best? b/c international judgind is biased...
chrissyluvhorsey 2 years ago
...because people want to see the big flashy knee action in the extensions (which rollkur produces). because to the every day back yard rider, these images of horses being held BTV, broken at the third vertebrae, and having spectacular knee action is viewed as "correct", whereas images of a horse with the nose IFV, poll at the highest point, and w/o such spectacular knee action is dubbed "incorrect".
chrissyluvhorsey 2 years ago
There is nothing wrong with what she does. She is doing it right dressage has changed over the years and she is just trying to win and it's ok to try to win and yes she is called the dancing queen for a reason
iluvmyhorsemay 2 years ago
but at what cost? is a gold medal really worth permanently damaging your horse's neck and poll? is it really worth the pain the hyperflexion causes? is it really worth potentially ruining a horse? theres nothing wrong with wanting to be the best and win, but there has to be a line drawn somewhere. to push your horse to do too much too fast, using false training methods that have been proven to cause irreversible damage just to win is plain selfishness, and thers no excuse for that in my opinion
chrissyluvhorsey 2 years ago
@chrissyluvhorsey I agree with you wholeheartedly. I'm hoping that she doesn't use any false methods. And I'm hoping that this horse demonstrated the desire and exceptional performance at an early age which made her pursue training him. hoping
FRENCHI1102 2 years ago
Anky van Rollkur.
LaDonnaBonita 2 years ago
Könnt ihr deppen auch deutsch reden ?
Remoox33 2 years ago
C'est toi qui va cassé ton cheval oui, Anky elle l a pas cassé!!!
hanoveraner 2 years ago
Elle l'a cassé allez voir la video de totilas vous sentirez la difference
walou222 2 years ago
OMG Anky puts on a fabulous performance- ive basically memorised this peice of music and their moves without even knowing it!
TheHorseyChick 2 years ago
What I find interesting is how many people truly believe that "Well, she wins, so this MUST be correct, and the horse must be happy."
Take a look at the abuses in other disciplines and you'll realize that what WINS is not always RIGHT.
What you take to be proof that her training is correct and humane, I take to be proof of the denegration of the sport.
bettylion 2 years ago 7
@bettylion omfg she dpesnt abuse that horse its happy loomk at its ears and tail wtf do you knoooww and obviously if it was abuse dont ya think the horse would rear?
GaelicsRose 1 year ago
@GaelicsRose Horses are extremely forgiving creatures and will endure a lot of pain at the request of their rider. There are sored Walker horses winning in the showring. They don't rear or kick as they hobble along in extreme pain.
bettylion 1 year ago
@GaelicsRose It constitutes abuse for many reasons. The horse cannot see anything except the patch of ground directly in front of his feet. His breathing is restricted. His mouth is assaulted. His entire spinal column is put under strain. Try putting your chin to your chest and then executing a dance routine for an hour. You would be quite unhappy after a few minutes. Rollkur is not a natural posture for the horse.
bettylion 1 year ago
@GaelicsRose Educate yourself on rollkur and equine anatomy and physiology and then decide. There are scores of veterinarians and dressage riders who oppose this kind of riding. But to people like you, someone a blue ribbon outweights all the other proof? Just because she's winning does not make it right. Unfortunately everyday there are trainers with abusive or questionable practices in the showring and it does not make it "right". Someone has to stand up for the horse's well being.
bettylion 1 year ago
@GaelicsRose In the showring, Anky does not ride the horse in a rollkur posture. You can find plenty of video online, however, that shows some pretty extreme stuff. In the showring, there is still plenty of evidence that the horse is trained incorrectly. The horse is almost always behind the vertical, which 15 or 20 years ago would have been a HUGE no-no and marked down considerably. For some reason (highly debated) the judges seem to overlook this fault.
bettylion 1 year ago
@GaelicsRose Constantly behind the vertical, croup-high in the piaffe, these are all telltale signs of riding front to back. The standard comparison is Dr. Klimke on Alherich, there you will see a horse that is free to use his neck and is beautifully expressive as a result. Klimke's training never condoned pulling on the horse's face to train him. Educate yourself and you will begin to see how this is a circus ride compared to classical dressage.
bettylion 1 year ago
@GaelicsRose I agree that sometimes it can "look pretty". Unfortunately what "looks pretty" is not always correct. That's how Walker horses ended up being abused.... people love the "high action" of the front legs. Learn and watch closely, there is some flashy action here but little going on in the engine, croup is high and hind legs trailing (not truly sitting). Notice the deathgrip on the mouth. I understand how it looks great to the uneducated eye.
bettylion 1 year ago
@bettylion well i always have a tight grip on my horse bc shes arab and bridals and hangs on it alot. i give her reward by loosing my grip a bit when shes good. same might apply for her horse, you wouldnt know bc you dont ride it ;) every horse is diffrent
GaelicsRose 1 year ago
@bettylion just bc shes famous doent meen shes bad so suck it up
GaelicsRose 1 year ago
Good comment RiyarooChoo , when those of you who are negative about Anky, achieve what she has (3 olympic golds, and all the world cup titles over the years)then you may make a judgment. until then. dont watch the videos if you dont like her! Her and Salinero are GREAT!
hayls2411 2 years ago
Anky is an amazing rider.....Her and Salinero are a perfect match.
xohorseluverxo 2 years ago
We all have different views. You may like Anky, while I detest her and her style of ridding
ClassicalDressage01 2 years ago
This video is a disgusting display of dressage. She sits so stiff in the saddle its no wonder her horse has no movement through his back or neck. Queen of the Kur my ass. Salinero is so tightly kept at the third vertebra that its no wonder he cant get off the forehand once in the whole performance. This is not dressage, if you want to watch real dressage watch anything on La Cadre Noir or The spanish riding school
ClassicalDressage01 2 years ago
He is held quite tight but i think you were very rude. I thinkits incredible how he can step virtually perfectly to the music evrytime... I agree, this wasnt their best performance and again! i prefer blue hors matine. and yes, the spanish riding school is beautiful but dont be so ruse please!
myponiesrule123 2 years ago
if you knew anything about true classical dressage you would know that the Germans and Dutch riders are the best! c'mon! just look at who's dominating in dressage! NOT THE SPANISH RIDING SCHOOL!!!! next time you make a comment like that, make sure you've got all your facts straight! SHEESH!
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MegaFashionStar 2 years ago
nou was du siest ist eine dressur koningin ohne doping hahahahahaha
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MegaFashionStar 2 years ago
Wenn du schon Leute beleidigst und rumpöbelst, dann lerne doch bitte dich vernünftig zu artikulieren. Deine Ausdrucksweise ist ein absolutes Armutszeugnis.
Das was du hier öffentlich betreibst, und das nicht nur bei diesem Video und Reiter, ist rufschädigend und kann durchaus zur Anzeige gebracht werden. Ich bin mir allerdings auf Grund deines absolut undiskreten und niveaulosn Verhaltens sicher, dass du noch nicht alt genug bist um rechtlich in irgend einer Weise bemannt zu werden.
g1512able 2 years ago
omg bist du hohl des is die warheit! rollkur pur!!!
MegaFashionStar 2 years ago
ach da reitet sie ihr pferd ja mal ohne rollkur das sie soetwas noch hinbekommt man sollte ihr das pferd wegnehmen
BunnyVanny93 2 years ago
richitg die gehört angezeigt und ihr verboten an tunieren teilzunhemen und umgang mit pferden ! ich hasse die frau
MegaFashionStar 2 years ago
beautiful transition at 3:19 !!!
A168HJ 2 years ago
How could anyone say her horse is unhappy! Unhappy horses dont win gold medals.. I wish everyone would stop with the anky-bashing, most people on here proberly havent even ridden a dressage test in there lives, and think that they know all about it, so why dont you lot who hate her so much QUIT watching her videos, no ones forceing you to watch them so SHUT THE HELL UP, and if you think she trainer her horses wrong why dont you go and try riding at Grand Prix eh, i would LOVE to see it! Merci.
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hayls2411 2 years ago
I could beat her no prob... NOT!!! haha I couldnty even do half of that, get a horse to walk so niceley and not try to put his head down... lol Yea right! Go Anky!!!
Breyerpeep 2 years ago 7
At this level it is REQUIRED that you have spurs and a double bridle. You are NOT allowed to compete otherwise. Most of these riders do not ride with a double bridle at home, but a regular bridle.
NinjaSmokePuff 2 years ago 5
I don't like her training methods, but still she rides wonderfully.
horsieylover 2 years ago
i love her music, her and her horses!
Horses4ever8 2 years ago
this sport is funny no running no jumping no tally ho lol
lmcdowall 2 years ago
i sure hope thats sarcasm.... =)
thebluebot 2 years ago
oh what a load of bullshit she is not abusing her horses dont cary on with such pathetic nosense she is the best dressage rider in the world she has proved that and quite frankly i dont think she would give a rats what you think! Maybe you should go to her place and take all your arguments to her face and see how reiculous you all look, she would pin you down so fast with her fast and correct arguments you wouldnt know what hit you!
Jaccko14 2 years ago
If anky is such a bad rider, why Is she the best and most succesful dressage rider in the world?
RonaPonyyyy 2 years ago
I agree with you! Her horse looks unhappy. And now I realize why she moves her feet so much. She has spurs on. I didnt realize that before. Poor horse : (
She may be a good rider but she doesnt need to constantly spur her horse,
HorseCrazy09 2 years ago
uhm, thats what every dressage rider does... on high levels they have to use spurs so the horse doesnt get the commands confused
thebluebot 2 years ago
That doesnt mean she has to spur him every two seconds
HorseCrazy09 2 years ago
actually it does, obviously, you dont know a thing about dressage. you should brush up on subjects you are going to argue about before you start the argument
thebluebot 2 years ago
no, it doesn't. a truely skilled rider would have a horse go off of the slightest of cues, I think spurs and ouble bridles should be banned from dressage as perhaps this would allow for people who rely on such gadgets to fall away from the top and allow for those who have no need for them to start to do half pie decently. Spurs are handy to get a horse to react faster or lift his feet higher but that doesn't make it right, or nessacery.
thecrazydolls 2 years ago
I totally agree with you
HorseCrazy09 2 years ago
greate answer!
michellelavaleije 2 years ago 2
also continual spurring in frowned upon in dressage as it dulls the horses sensitivity to the leg aids, which is the opposite of what you want in a dressage horse. A horse that is well trained by a sensitive rider doesn't need spurs so it won't get legs aids confused, spurs are totally unnessacery
thecrazydolls 2 years ago
well yea of course its frowned upon, but this is not based on what should happen, this is whats happening and what will continue to happen, unless some new person decides to come in and somehow manages to get the votes to ban (which i doubt) those items, if you dont recall andreas is a great rider and he has very sensitive hand and leg and he is still at the top, not all dressage riders r like anky, but anky is anky she is good and so is keltec
thebluebot 2 years ago
Ah-lot of dressage competitions like this is required that you use a double bridle and have spurs on cuz it looks more professional. I'm pretty sure Anky wouldn't need spurs to do well in any of the dressage competitions she enters anyways.
horsegurl2810 2 years ago 3
me neither! shes a great rider
thebluebot 2 years ago
if it's for looks alone than that explains everything that has goone wrong in dressage and why you see the farce that you do these days...it's all materialistic. it's all about what looks good. bring back reiner klimke!! :(
thecrazydolls 2 years ago 2
I think In her training videos, anky is atchually wearing no spurs/whip. and in a plain snaffle bridle.
kellyarnold181194 2 years ago
Yes but only when your regularly riding, Im sure Keltic could do easily without them. As seen in her trianing videos, but as said its required. So no biggy :D
Breyerpeep 2 years ago 4
That is the most incorrect thing I have ever heard uttered about dressage.
bettylion 2 years ago
Could you do better? My god...
This is the highest level you could ever ride.
P.s if you have spurs on it doesn't say you have to use them, even with spurs you can ride your horse on your calves (without using your spurs every two seconds).
michellelavaleije 2 years ago 2
who are you talking to?
HorseCrazy09 2 years ago
Salinero looks brainwashed and unhappy. And Anky's feet move constantly: spur, spur, spur. Frankly, I think she sucks.
Liberty9m 2 years ago
If you think she is so bad like RonaPonyyyy said, why is she the most successful dressage rider in the world? And if you think she is so bad, why are watching this video and searching for her?
Don't like it? THEN LEAVE BECAUSE THE REST OF THE WORLD DOES!
HorseLife369 2 years ago 2
pity the rest of the world actually doesn't..
thecrazydolls 2 years ago
oh sorry I meant Liberty9m
and yes I agree thecrazydolls
HorseLife369 2 years ago
unlike any other horses, dressagehorses are very precious. so the get the best care that there is in the world.
it would be quite stupid to abuse such important beings, wouldn´t it?
operationmainstrike 3 years ago
anky's horse are beauitful, but i dont like her music.... go elisabeth and andreas!!!!
finenproud 3 years ago
That's all bullshit, if she was abusing her horses they wouldn't perform that good...
You all should learn more about all these techniques and how they are used by different people. Because all the problems are caused by people who don't know what they're doing.
If Anky was abusing her horses she wouldn't have been dutch-, european-, world-, and olympic champion several times on different horses...
krielkip86 3 years ago
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dressage in this video ist animalbuse!! poor horses!!!
DarlinaLady 3 years ago
It annoys the shit out of me that she can only keep him halted for like 0.5 seconds at the end of her test. I can't stand it. As soon as she goes to salute the judge Sailnaro starts to piaffe again. AGHHHH!!!
TaylorMadePony 3 years ago
I have to say i dont really like dressage, if i did it it would be impossible because i have the need to stick my knees far forward with my heels really down, and unless the changed the saddle, i cant do that, and plus alot of the horses movements arent natural (they just train it to them through hours of pain!!) because thats what some people think.
Kingrussle 3 years ago
This is the problem: the movements are not natural anymore. The goal of dressage riding was omce the enhancement and support of the horses NATURAL movements to the benefit to the horse in keeping it healthy. Today this it turned ad absurdum. I am sad what has become the standard in the Dressage sport I loved so dearly.
mAstadourian 3 years ago
Really come to love Keltec Salinero... something about him reminds me a lot of Nissan Gigolo-- probably the fact that he wins all the time ;)
They had an absolutely INCREDIBLE performance at the WEG'06 games.
ImmortalSynn 3 years ago
btw.. I love Anky
So glad she represents the Netherlands!!
MssO0oTRaa 3 years ago
i hate anky. She is a good rider, but she is so violent. Did you know that when she was training Salinero to do piaffe she tied his hind feet together so that he wouldn't move? Yeah, i think its cruel. She uses whips alot, and now, in competitions, she can screw up and they will still giver her points because A) Shes still a good rider and B) because all the judges already know her and she is automatically in the finals which is unfair to other riders who had a chance with her. I thnk its unfair
Shiznit0510 3 years ago
So you really think Anky is the only one who does that!? (Well I don't know if she does it, I gotta see it before i believe it) but you don't know how the others train there horses, maybe they do it even worse!
and I don't think she trains her horses that cruel, even if it's only because people would see the marks or scars when she has a kur
MssO0oTRaa 3 years ago
yes well of course there are people more violent than Anky! But this video is ANKY, no? And i never sid she BEATS them , not enough to have scars, you have ot hit a horse quite hard to leave a scar with a whip, but apparently she did tie his feet together. Im not saying shes a bad rider-either way shes incredible.
Shiznit0510 3 years ago
You kinda did say she beats them... you said "she uses wips alot" and if u use wips that much I think you could also see it on Salineros behaviour during the kur.
And so if there are more people more violent than Anky why do you post it? Do you post it on all dressage riders and do you add some of your violent infromation to them too?
Anyway I stick to my wn view unless I see her tieyng Salineros feet together
MssO0oTRaa 3 years ago
umm, no im soryr i dont go around on videos posting random shit about how violent people are...who would do that? I just found out a few days ago like a week and ahalf ago andit reminded me about it.
BTW, i think its nice that you are sticking to your view, but the second part of that phrase, note how in my previous comment i wrote when SHE WAS TRAINING.-past tense. So i doubt you would see it nowadays.
Shiznit0510 3 years ago
get your fact right silly, anky is agaist using of the wip if you dont nead it. And I dont belive that she has tied sallis feet togeter until I see it.
Minga90ame 3 years ago
I hate her too.. she is really cruel, using a rollkur and a hyperflexion is much more cruel than using a whip... people who admire her dont know anything about the classical art of dressage..
krisouyeah 3 years ago
I do agree with you at some points. I don't think she tied Salinero's feet together, and Salinero doesn't really looks like he's being mistreated but when you watch other dressage video's it's quite obvious Salinero doesn't look as relaxed or happy compared to most of the horses.
And yes, she does get the "Anky Points". To be honest, I am Dutch but at the olympic games I watched her and I wanted to win someone else so bad...
Emma8887 3 years ago
I saw her warming up her horses in 2006 at the WEG. I was shocked to say the least. This is not because I favor a German rider over her but because it is a perversion of the sport I love so much. Dressage has become a show, a farce this kind of riding has nothing to do with working on relaxed self confident and naturally expressive horses. And Anky is not the only one forgetting this. German riders are nowhere better than her. We are on a very wrong way.
mAstadourian 3 years ago 2
ever since i started working at a dressage barn with grand prix horses, i have a totally new respect for this. it is so much harder than it looks, and the horses are so finely tuned, any wrong move of your hand or leg, and the horse does something defferent. it is amazing. i got the opportunity to ride a Grand Prix stallion, and it was amazing. this video is great
PapaRoachGirl18 3 years ago
das gehört verboten
maintal14 3 years ago
her riding is totally invisable!
Shilott 3 years ago
No she is bether than Isabell Werth! hahaha
jantjeuh1990 3 years ago
how tall is Anky and Salinero?
calaquende 3 years ago
I was watching this and my 3 year old daughter was watching behind me and she said " mum, i want one of those dancing horses" i couldn't help laughing, but I honestly want one too!
Fahy17 3 years ago 4
almost as good as Isabell Werth!
Espritchen 3 years ago
ummmmmmmmmm excuse me she is way better than isabela shes not even close by a long shot
130ivan 3 years ago 3
die vind ik nog het leukst van alle jaren:D
Lisayo1 3 years ago
That is a great ride, horse looks very happy!
Go Anky. Keep being the champion you are, even though so many people look at you with critical eyes....you press on- good for you.
EclypseSportHorses 3 years ago 2
GO ANKY!!!! As for the negative comments, well I say to those people, read some books and study the "ART" of dressage. Do you really think with a panel of world class judges sitting there watching her and her horses every move, they would mark her the way they do if that horse was in ANY type of pain or discomfort. How many Olympics have you people been too?
justcrackin 3 years ago
Exactly! How many World Cup Championships have those weirdos won? Close to nothing!
knhorsegirl 3 years ago
I agree, read some books and find that a lot of this horse's qualities are totally undesireable in dressage, such as constantly behind the bit.
The FEI's own directives state what should and shouldn't be scored highly, and the judges are for some reason awarding high scores even though the horse is in clear violation of what the FEI describes as desireable qualities.
No one quite knows why they are doing that, and a lot of classically trained people are confused and frustrated by it.
nelsonreed 3 years ago
anky is amazin! woo go anky! :) fab music!
dozydressage 3 years ago 2
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ugghhh this is painfull to watch. to see what dressage has become today is sad. nothing about that was beautifull. that horse is bent at the third vertabre and not engaged in the hind end at all. if you want to see real dressage watch a spanish riding school video. this is nothing but a competitive rider cranking on her horses mouth. shame
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danroad87 3 years ago
A swishing tail can be a sign of a well balanced horse as well as a sign of it being pissed off..... its neck cocked is called shaping up and it helps the horse to devlop its body and use him self better... extending is a doddle for a well balanced and well trained horse like this....its for our enjoyment, the horse so it showcase its great talent......... i dont think its rediculous you could do a lot worse for a horse than train it perfectly and then showcase tis talent!
lovableluce 3 years ago
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SEE HOW HE SWISHES HIS TAIL? -the whole time- that horse is pissed off, and having his neck cocked like that and extending has to hurt REALY bad. its rediculous, and for WHAT?
horsebackrider420 3 years ago
I don't know how old you are but you aren't well versed on horse body language and fine training and a horses actual enjoyment. Have you watched Andreas Helgstrand and Bleu Hors Matine? She swishes her tail throughout and is loving it! Watch the whole body and its parts. You will see the whole differently. Enjoy! (50 years of horses and farms and animals and counting-ss)
dogsharoncats 3 years ago 4
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dressage is for anal, uptight, fags.
horsebackrider420 3 years ago
its very haard so of coure they look upright! you have to have a lot of practice to do all of that in the championships!
SuperstarShelby 3 years ago 4
I agree with SuperstarShelby, it's also really hard for the rider to give all commands. This summer I didn't ride for about 2 weeks, when I came back on the horse my legs hurt for like 9 days! And I'm even a beginner!
Alishondra 3 years ago
horsebackrider - I wouldnt be talking you tit you're a backayrd rider who rides little paint pony's. Youre an absolute idiot! Piss off with your donkey horses and leave these people alone.
Jaccko14 3 years ago 3
this horse is my fave in the whole world. anky is my idol
lillyluvsdaisy 3 years ago 6
Pirouette - Just shut up youre completly oblivious to the fact that Anky is world number one and that youre not always right. Get over it
Jaccko14 3 years ago 2
Nisha12317 just shut up
I'm going evrey year to Anky { from the Anky fanclub }
and you can make pictures of the horses and on the picture with anky and much more and Anky and her husband do not train the'r horses on a cruel methods you'r jalurs!
so just shut up about Anky!
bambamlovertjeeh 3 years ago
why does anyone have to idolize someone and call others names and tell them to shut up? at this level, all the riders are very good. one day one will win, and the next day another will win. hopefully bambalovertjeeh some day you will mature enough to see this in a less emotional way - i'm sure anky herself would tell you you are wrong, if she read what you wrote. at the top level all the riders are very good with small differences between them and on any day someone else can win.
pirouette987 3 years ago 2
ehh anky and isabell are far away from the others so no dont agree there..its all about them when competition comes aound.
Minga90ame 3 years ago
creulty animal laws are far, far more strict in holland and germany, and this method has been evaluated extensively, stress hormones are less, and there is no indication it's cruel. people definitely don't like how it looks, so many are against it. i have ridden rollkur trained horses in holland - they are very flexible and not at all submissive or unhappy. everyone decide themselves how they want to train their horses, 'it wins' isn't everything. hopefully decide w/out calling names.
pirouette987 3 years ago
Actually she's not.
She and her husband use rather cruel methods to get their horses to preform at the level they do.
Personally I think you should get out there and learn what you are talking about before you spout advice to others.
oh and if you want to make a knowledgable impression....learn to spell.
thanks :)
Nisha12317 3 years ago
and you need to laern that youre not the only one who knows which methods anky is using and that there are different oppinion if its bad or if its is a superb training method.
Minga90ame 3 years ago
I'm not saying that my oppinion us the only one and if you look above I did not ONCE say that the training methods that they use are superb or bad, I just said that the methods that they use are rather cruel.
You people all need to learn to read...
Nisha12317 3 years ago
oh shut up, you sad sad person
Minga90ame 3 years ago
lol....what? can't come back to that one?
wow that must mean that.....*gasp* YOU must have jumped to conclusions that weren't there!
Ah well
ta ta
I've had fun watching you losers make idiots of yourselves.
Night
Nisha12317 3 years ago
ehh what
Minga90ame 3 years ago
em are you talking to me? YOU think they use cruel methods, some dont and you have to get that INFO in to your little head instead of counting spelling mistakes asshole. As well as I should learn what I am talking about YOU should do the exactly same thing. I have pretty strong eveidence that rollkur is a pretty good method sine Anky have three individul olympi Gold Medals.
Minga90ame 3 years ago
and thats the truth
bambamlovertjeeh 3 years ago
bambamlovertjeeh 3 years ago
Isabel is n't great yes Isabel did win from Anky with the Grand Prix but
Anky has a GREAT come back with Salinero en
did win from Isabel with the world cup!
so who is better!?!
I can tell you...
Anky van Grunsven Is the Best one and she is my Idol and she rides for the Netherlands and I live there and she is just the BEST one better than you,me,evreybodey! so just SHUT UP oubout Anky van Grunsven cause she's the best and nobody else can defeat her!
bambamlovertjeeh 3 years ago
my greatest Dream is to be like Anky,
and my parents have the money for it
bud i have now a pony he is cute bud with him I cant be like Anky
but my baby horse(xD)is about 1 year comming back and with him I'm gonna try to be like Anky! :D
and evreyone say that I can do it,so I'm gonna try it!
I(l)Anky!
Anky=Best
bambamlovertjeeh 3 years ago
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Anky won her 9th world cup on salinero yesterday. so stick it!
Jaccko14 3 years ago 2
this is a french song c'est bizard qu'elle est pris des chanson fransaise !!!! trop sublime this is a very good parcourt das ist eine gut prestation !!!!
lajuldu63 3 years ago
Becoming like Anky is my dream <3 only I don't have the money :( so my dream has to wait :(
1pr1nces1 3 years ago
c loong
drivix33 4 years ago
c chiant...
drivix33 4 years ago
Oh, please! Best rider in the world!?! Common, it is soooo obvious you have not been exposed to very much in the horse world. Anky could not ride a horse if her world depended on it. She might be loved in the arena but take her out in the open country on a rigorous trail ride and I bet she folds like a lawn chair.
piaffe1 4 years ago 3
yes jack piaffe1 is really sad, at first I thought ok she wants to let us now her point of view of anky..fine as long as it dosnt get personal, but drunk in the saddle specially in this performance were she recieved 87% come on, whos the one to say " it is soooo obvious you have not been exposed to very much in the horse world." all of her comment look like if they have been written by a child.
Minga90ame 4 years ago
And the fact that anky is rich, you know; many high level dressage riders has a lot of money, guess what! having horses around cost a lot of money, if you didnt know that that its you who dont know shit. I have seen alot of people who just hasnt got the talent to make a horse do a halfpass or whatever but anky is not on of them, cuz clearly she does it in the video here so I don even know why im bringing this up, cant belive im explaining to you that anky infact can ride:)
Minga90ame 4 years ago
Minga90ame - Why do people not understand how Anky trains and rides? Its clear that she is one very talented rider, if she was so bad, she would not win everything there is to win. Kyra Kirklund hates the way Anky trains, but whos the better rider? Whos the rider who continues to get top place at every competition? Not Kyra! Anky has made dressage alive, she is what keeps me going, and she has taken dressage to highest. People who cannot see this and choose to critisize, are simply jelous.
Jaccko14 4 years ago
Best rider in the world.
Jaccko14 4 years ago
Well jimbo4343, really watch this video. I mean really watch it. Does Anky look as if she is in harmony with her mount? I personally believe the whole world has lost the meaning of what dressage is and should be. No I cannot compete in this level. Why? because of money and politics. I know bad excuse but Anky looks like a a wash board riding a horse. The horse looks fine, although it is very sore in the hind end. Anky actually looks like she is drunk ridng. You seriously need to watch this more
piaffe1 4 years ago 2
Anky looks drunk when she is riding? LOL thats the stupidest thig youve ever said. I have never seen a rider with a better position than her. You are so sad.
Jaccko14 4 years ago
is anky is so bad, piaffe 1, then why in this video does she have the background of world cup champion, european champion, olympic champion, etc. you can't seriously mean to say that the high quality judges involved in those competitions didn't know what they were doing?
jimbo4343 4 years ago
Wow! It is amazing but true how little understanding you guys have of dressage. Words like harsh and control. They have no place in dressage. It is about flowing with your horse. A dance. An elegant but harmonious choreography between horse and rider. Not a stiff, bouncing up and down, jagged edged, sharpness of a ride. There is no harmony between Anky and any of the horses she rides. Politics and money. No horsemanship here my friends. I bet Anky cannot even tell you what Dressage is!
piaffe1 4 years ago
oh just shut up! i actually dont do dressage per say, but ive been working on the basics for months lately and her movments arnt harsh or stiff, if they were her horses performance would suffer. riding is never about control no matter what you do. the horse you are riding consents to every move you ask him for. in that aspect you are right (wow!) but anky is doing just that. if she wasnt she wouldnt have won. politics my butt.
arrowsandangels4ever 4 years ago
lets face it, no one cares about how you think you could do better. if thats true, stop talking about it and just do it!
arrowsandangels4ever 4 years ago
Politics and money my arse!
Jaccko14 4 years ago
I would be riding if I had the money and sponcership Anky has. She is a terrible rider, and she is nothing better than training level material. She needs to really focus on her basics. She has a horrible seat, leg and hands. The basic three principles of riding dressage. How can any of you even not see this?! If you have any knowledge of horsemanship at all?! Anky needs to step down. Anyone who truly understands dressage knows this.
piaffe1 4 years ago
If you've ever riden a horse at that level you wouldn't have an imaculate position either. It's amazing how little her body does move. I had the oppertunity to ride a horse with the same level or training as Keltec this year and my body was all over the place. I'm not as skilled as a rider as Anky, but I am good enough that I usually am as still as stone. However, horses that move like that may look smooth, but being in controll you can see how harsh the movements feel.
crazyemogirl6 4 years ago
well maybe you would have the money and the sponcership if YOU had any knowlage of riding and dressage. the things the horse is doing underneith her is the reason for her movment (which isnt much) i think you need to keep your opinions to yours self because aparentallly your just making a fool of yourself.
arrowsandangels4ever 4 years ago
well said!!!!!
danikaOT89 4 years ago
Piaffe your just jelous. We all know you are, no need to get so cut. Go away, no one likes your un-educated comments.
Jaccko14 4 years ago
Here is Anky again. What a horrible rider. Her upper body is not even square with the horse. It sits way back, instead of being suare over her hips. Notice how her upper body leans way back.If we were to draw a straight line through her center, we would have three sections that would not line up. Anky rides as if she forcrs the horse to make movements instead of flowing with the horse. She looks like a pogo stick riding a horse. Anky is great because of money and politics, not because of talent
piaffe1 4 years ago
I do not agree with you, I mean its your opinion. She looks fine, and if Keltec didn't want to do it, he wouldn't. So don't go trash talkin Anky, shes my idle
breyerlove24 4 years ago 2
ok you know what? if you know it all, why arnt you riding instead of her??? "what a horrible rider" my butt. anky is great because she IS great. money and politics have nothing to do with it.
arrowsandangels4ever 4 years ago
bellissimi, che coppia!
MENELIK2000 4 years ago
Bellissimo!!!
tonimilikan 4 years ago
Gorgeous... But I don't like her. She uses Rolkur.
110cowgirl 4 years ago
Did anyone watch Lone Jorgenson's test at the World Cup? (2006) What was her music? Where can I get it? Thanks!
Katelyn153 4 years ago
shes so amzing!
hamham123411 4 years ago