"I condemn false prophets, I condemn the effort to take away the power of rational decision, to drain people of their free will - and a hell of a lot of money in the bargain. Religions vary in their degree of idiocy, but I reject them all. For most people, religion is nothing more than a substitute for a malfunctioning brain."
-GENE FUCKING RODDENBERRY, THE CREATOR STAR TREK. YOU DUMBASS.
Frankly Mr Spock would have been agnostic. I dont know a single episode where he went around bitching because something went against his preconceived notions. Atheist are nothing like Spock. They made up there minds on invisible evidence and reject anything that could goes against there worldview. Im Agnostic. I find Atheist to be highly illogical. Not to mention boring know-it-all.
@Tuber77 Agnosticism is not mutually exclusive of atheism or theism. It's not fence sitting, or halfway between the two. I'm curious as to what you think the Atheist position is?
Theists need to know the answer, and if they can't get that answer they replace 'I don't know' with theism. Atheism is not afraid to say 'I don't know', but we will work to find the answer. - Simply atheism requires evidence, theism does not. <3
If no evidence is provided in favor of a claim, then said claim can be rejected outright. I do not need to disprove god. The mere fact that there is absolutely no evidence to suggest god exists means that I can reject the claim "god exists". When someone makes a claim with nothing to back it up, it gets rejected. God is no exception to logic. Why would he create us with brains only to forego their use?
The premise is dumb with a capital "B". That's "dumB", which we all can agree is dumb. And that's the point.
The rules of logic are not dependent on a God any more than the rules of basic arithmetic are. 2+2 doesn't equal 4 because God said so; it equals 4 because it can't equal anything else.
Even an atheist like myself can admit that a god could possibly exist. However, the mere possibility of something existing should not govern your beliefs. For example, it is possible that Bigfoot, Leprachauns, ghosts, demons, etc. exists. Should we believe they exist? No. Until someone finds evidence that these things exist, it is logical to disbelieve. I did not say I believe that god doesn't exist. I am simply unconvinced that god exists. I can be pursuaded with evidence.
@drche420 If you acknowledge the possibility of God or a god then you are not an atheist you are, like Roddenberry, an agnostic. I find most people who want solid proof will always reject that proof if they can find some kind of excuse. Proving God exists is like proving sexual harassment, unless there is some kind of DNA on top of the multiple witnesses the camera shots and physical after effects people just will not believe. They could be possessed by God and they still would not believe.
Boy, if I had a nickel for every time some idiot tried to tell me what I believe. Read carefully. An atheist is simply someone who does not have a belief in any god. Even though I am not claiming the nonexistance of god, I do not believe in god. Since I do not believe in god, I am atheist. If you don't understand this, don't worry. Many simple minded people can't. If you have trouble, try killing yourself.
@drche420 How would "killing yourself" explain that you are an atheist who believes in the possibility of a god? You can call yourself anything you want too, I was only pointing out that your beliefs do not reflect the dictionary's definition of atheist. PS. Telling people to "try killing yourself" is a sign of someone who hates himself. You will never hear anyone who truly believes in God say such horrible things as "try killing yourself".
The 'dictionary definition', as you call it, is not important. Any self proclaimed atheist will tell you that when we accept the label 'atheist', it means:
Athiest--> without belief in a god or gods
It is logical to say that many things are possible, but does that mean I believe all these things exist? No. Its clear you haven't thought about this very much. Fairies are possible. I don't believe in faires. See how this works?
@drche420 From your definitions I'm a psychologist, a quantum physicist and a movie producer just by saying it is so makes it true! Even though I never followed the rules regarding becoming a psychologist, quantum physicist or movie producer. Grow up! The world does not work that way. Even religions have their rules. No one can declare themselves a Jew, Catholic, Lutheran, Hindu... they must follow the rules of the churches!
A psychologist is one who practices psychology. I would be correct to say that a psychologist would be the best person to ask what "psychology " means. Similarly, I would be correct to say that an atheist would be the best person to ask what "atheism" means. You're acting childish by stretching by my argument to ridiculous proportions then ridiculing the result.
@drche420 I'm pointing out how ridicules you sound. You don't like society's definition of Atheism so you reject it. You don't like the fact that institutions like the Catholic Church has rules, because it proves Hitler lied about being a Catholic, so you reject that too. So tell me again which one of us is acting childish? Rejecting facts because it does not fit you little world is the sign of an unstable person. Time to grow up JR.
Society's definition? I was only trying to eliminate bias. If the source of your definition is not atheist, how can you be sure you have the correct definition? I even used your own insult against you in explaining how a psychologist would be the best source for your definition of 'psychology'. Again, this is a very simple concept. Do you still not understand? If you understand I would really appreciate you making a Specific objection.
@drche420 You really are either completely dyslexic or just refuse to read what I write. You were trying to project your own bias. The dictionary is the correct source for definitions. I have worked with true atheists and they are more respectful of facts and other people's religions then you are. Second, that was not an insult, but if you were insulted you did not get what I was pointing out. Simple concepts are defined by society not you.
@Trekfreek This may be a misunderstanding due to your expectations of a dictionary. A dictionary does not necessarily have all the meanings of a specific word.
There is no such thing as a "true atheist" any more than there is such thing as a "true christian". Adding "true" is an attempt to judge the sincerety of somone else's beliefs. I'll stress again, it is not your place to judge sincerety. About the facts, you still haven't denied the validity of my psychologist analogy.
@drche420 Now you’re hitting below the belt! There is such a thing as a true Christian and I know one atheist who would punch your lights out for saying "no such thing as a "true atheist"". Do you get off on making shit up or do you really think this ridiculous way? You can continue with your ranting on your own. I’m done until you get a proper education.
Your atheist friend does not sound like a very rational person. Running from the truth won't change the facts.
Adding "true" is merely an attempt to separate yourself from other christians/atheists. Sorry to burst your bubble, but that qualifier is exactly that. A qualifier.
I thought this was a joke at first but then I realized it is backwards and misguided.
You realize that validity, proof, and evidence are key bases for logic, right? In the god-belief, there are non of these things.
Spock is supposed to be fully based on logic even though he missteps once in awhile due to his half-human side and his cultural rituals, that would make no sense for an atheist to perform.
Some would think to place Spock as the ultimate Atheist in the Star Trek but I would say Data.
I agree. Data is a completely objective creature, free of indoctrination or emotions to cloud judgement. I would say the largest misunderstanding would be that many people think atheists claim god doesn't exist. When will people learn that disbelief and making a claim of nonexistance are completely different things!?
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God is necessary for the LOI & the LNC (Laws of logic). Theism is certain since the Laws of Logic must be pre-assumed as fixed Laws - (universal perpetual application) or assertions & communication are imposs. Law of NonCon is non-physical, universal, immutable, transcendent, cannot be the case unless- God exists as non-phys. univ. imm. tran. atemporal is required to ground Laws. Since LNC is indeed true, thus must God exist.
cousin, you are contradicting yourself about having an open mind. Everything is subjective or objective in our world. The gift of privilege and freedom that matters most right now. The progress & the better of humanity. The growth and nurturing of altruism that we all experience and have been experiencing for how ever long the earth has been here, thousand that you believe in or the millions of years I believe in. It's all on how you would like to be guided, or in my opinion, controlled.
cousin, you are contradicting yourself about having an open mind. Everything is subjective or objective or our world. The gift of privilege and freedom that matters most right now. The progress & the better of humanity. The growth and nurturing of altruism that we all experience and have been experiencing for how ever long the earth has been here, thousand that you believe in or the millions of years I believe in. It's all on how you would like to be guided, or in my opinion, controlled.
Hume's problem is in regards to predicting behavior, not nature or natural laws. The difference is one must ignore the fatal flaw of animal behavior to conclude that Hume's problem of induction is an honest approach at prediction.
Theism = belief in god. Atheism = no belief in god Theism/atheism does not = moral concepts Theism/atheism does not = The axiomatic laws of thought. Theism/atheism does not = unhurt positioning Theism/atheism does not = intelligence Theism/atheism does not = education let me reiterate Theism = Belief in god Atheism = No belief in god Theism and atheism as you misuse the terms do not account for anything outside of a result of belief. remove your head from your ass. Thank you!
atheist am dumb! They am so dumb and not logical. God is real , duh! , but not allah or pink unicorns or fairys or the catholics god or jews god but the one i believe in. Thank you for your time.
@anthonymilessee Logic is made by humans, just like god. Its makes since to think that logic is made by god, because we made god and then created logic. Logic works without a god figure, because it is made from the observation and then testing. However, Logic is not a sound practice. There are things that negate logic and do not abide by them. IE "superparticles." Using logic to prove a logical negative (god) is just not logical.
Except a problem we have found in our dna, that a recent Cryptographer decoded in our human dna, left over upgrades to dna, that are commented out in our present dna body, the cryptographer proved that all the extra information left in DNA was for a purpose, the purpose is possible upgrades
This implies a more advanced civilization exists and wrote changes to our dna for additional upgrades to exist, his findings appear very solid, so you could be right that a super intelligent race created man
@anthonymilessee All im saying period is, A you could literally raise a child and never say the word god or give them god theory and they would still function as any other person, with a personality, god isnt nessesary for electro biochemical processes to occur, you are like a machine made from parts which operate a certain way, when they malfunction your body stop functioning thus you r dead, just like a computer CPU take away the energy and the cpu doesnt continue motion,but who knows with DNA
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1 more atheist knucklehead, just an atheist fundamentalist wing-nut that hates the Laws of Logic as much as you hate God - sorry to disturb u with Deduction, it's a bit heady for atheist fundies, go & study the epistemology and logic & get back to me -
the laws of logic are necessary & so is God.
the great news is all your crazy philosophical schemes & nuttiness presuppose God for they must employ the laws of logic which require God
@anthonymilessee wait are you talking laws of physics, then obviously atheist also are aware of the sciences and math,you need no god to do math, god is just dog spelled backward you see
yes I agree that the first gods gave man the imagination to invent math and really the idea of math came from gods but when i say gods i really mean extra terrestrials who already mastered math and science, they taught the humans about the planets and the stars, so the issue is more then yes and no, its quantum
@anthonymilessee ummmm dude hating god for an atheist is a waste of time.....you make the claim your god exists.....yet you have no prove of said god....all you seem to have is assurtions that god is real and nessicary and to presuppose anything before coming to any conclusion is to taint any real or actual fact or truth cause anything that disaggres with your presupposion will be ignored......i have no intention of scheming you in anyway. if you have prove then show prove and stop assurting
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Your lack of logic calls you to deny truth and goodness and embrace a nefarious notion that reflects how much a miscreant you are; your weak world view that supplies wicked ethics & crooked reason is manifested in your assertions. Theism must be, for without it you cannot even account for the intelligibility of the world you despise almost as much as your own heart.
Your claims smell awfully like conviction. I'm afraid conviction is not enough to convince an intelligent / skeptical person of anything supernatural. Wanting a god to exist does not make it so. Instead of embracing life and all the unanswered questions, you've wasted your one and only guaranteed life in defference to your imaginary friend. Yes. You have an imaginary friend.
Arguments by popularity are still arguments by popularity, no matter how you paint it, it is still a fallacy and an invalid argument. That is the only way religion "wins" is by telling half truths and straight out lies, the trick is to see through them. When I say read I mean that literally read the bible objectively and skeptically that is the only way to read anything.
... Atheism is not a belief system. It is a label to describe a very specific group of people: those who lack belief in a god or gods. Disbelief motivates nothing. Belief in god can motivate radical behavior (such as Catholic Hitler or Muslim Terrorists). Yes, Hitler was Catholic. Look it up.
@drche420 Hitler was not a Catholic! "Goebbels notes in a diary entry in 1939 a conversation in which Hitler had "expressed his revulsion against Christianity" "Hitler's private statements about Christianity were often conflicting. Hitler's intimates, such as Joseph Goebbels, Albert Speer, and Martin Bormann suggest that Hitler generally had negative opinions of Christianity" (Wikipedia Adolf Hitler’s religious views). You obviously did not look it up! Hitler was only a "Catholic" in public.
Its not my responsibility to convince you of the truth. Your sources must be questionable because you are simply wrong. Do more unbiased research before you believe what you're told.
@drche420 A bias person thinks he is 100% right & the facts are wrong. You don't like the facts & the references that I gave you so you get all bent out of shape. Everyone's responsibility is to the truth no matter if that truth changes the general accepted perception of history. Fact is Hitler's closest friends/confidants said that Hitler hated Christianity, & the way Hitler treated Christians towards the end of the war is proof of that.
Your reference was Wikipedia. I don't have to explain myself further, but for your benefit I will. I honestly know for a fact that Hitler was Catholic from many different sources. Every soldier under his command wore a belt buckle that said "God is with us". In Mein Kampf Hitler wrote “by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord”. Even as late as 1941 Hitler told one of his generals: “I am now, as before, a Catholic and will always remain so.”
@drche420 Reference page wikipedia. Unlike you I double check my sources. Goebbels was the only general he would talk too at the end of the war. You forgot what he did to the Catholics toward the end of the war. Manny Catholic churches were turned into Nazi headquarters. Some Catholics had to hold services hidden from the Nazis, and any Catholic caught helping a Jew was shot. Hitler ignored the Pope’s advice about NOT waging war. Anyone who rejects the teachings of Jesus is not a Catholic.
You've made my point for me. Many Catholic churches were overtaken by Nazi regime. What does this have to do with Hitler's Religion? When a man says he is Roman Catholic, he is Roman Catholic. Who are you to say he wasn't? Wrong.
@drche420 You obviously know nothing about the Catholic Church. You can't call yourself Catholic & BANG you're a Catholic. It takes years of education & ceremonies to become a full Roman Catholic & if you don't follow the rules or ignore the Pope's advice you are no longer a Catholic & must retake 20%-100% of the lessons if you want to redeem yourself. It took me 16 years to become a full Catholic. Adult Programs are faster but they must still pass all the tests & do all the ceremonies.
The 'rules' of the Catholic church are irrelevant. I'm sorry if you can't understand that. If someone claims to believe in the god of a particular religion, who are you to say they are not sincere? It is not your place to judge the sincerety of someone's belief in god. If you say you are Baptist, I believe you. Why shouldn't I? Quite frankly, you are making very little sense.
@drche420 Who decided that the rules are irrelevant, you? Who are you to question my religions rules, or practices? Only ignorant people who refuse to face facts say that rules and dictionary definitions are irrelevant. It is you who lack understanding. A wise man once wrote "A fool chatters A wise man listens" You are the chattering fool who refuses to listen to facts. All facts are relevant especially rules and dictionary definitions.
Logic dictates what is relevant and what is not. Not you, not me. If you can't understand facts, that is not my fault. I've given you my evidence by showing you that Hitler has admitted to being Catholic. As for your dictionary defintion confusion, refer to the personal message I sent you. If after all of this you still don't understand, I'm afraid you're not open minded enough to admit you are wrong. I would suggest working on that.
@drche420 You don't have the right to twist the facts to fit your definition of "relevant". I also gave you irrefutable evidence that Hitler only claimed to be Catholic in public, and he never practiced any of the Catholic rules or follow the Ten Commandments. He also rejected the Pope and persecuted Catholics. It is you who refuses to accept that you are wrong. It is you who is close minded. It is you who can't see past your little world of lies and twisted facts. I pity you.
To save my life, I can't figure out why you're being so difficult. A person does not need to 'practice any of the catholic rules" or follow the ten commandments to be a Catholic. It all boils down to your beliefs. Your actions do not determine your religious label. Your beliefs determine what religion you are.
I can't help but to think you're just angry. Calm down and read my arguments rationally.
@drche420 Wrong again! How can you be so stupid? Did your mom drop you on your head when you were a BABY? You are mixing being a General Christian with being a Catholic. Your religion determines your faith not the other way around. Your actions define everything about you ESPECIALY your "religious label". You don't know the difference between angry and determined to sink the facts into your thick skull!
Catholicism is a subset of Christianity. The only requirements of the subset are accepting the specific beliefs of that subset.
Also, I've remained calm and tolerant through your insults. The least you can do is show some patience. Honestly, I am trying to find some common ground, but I seem to be getting nowhere since you can't concede the simplest of points. Ironic that you think I'm being thick, since I believe you are the one who is thick headed.
@drche420 I have not insulted you. I've heckled you. Finally you got something right. Catholicism is a subset of Christianity. So is the Lutheran Church, Mormon, Latter-day Saints and many others. When someone says "I'm a Christian" it only means that he/she believes that Christ existed and that person knows of his teachings. It does not mean that he/she believed he rose from the dead, or that the first Pope was appointed by Jesus. Nor does it mean he follows Christ's teachings. FACTS KID FACTS!
@drche420 Catholics are not the same as Mormons or the Church of Latter-day Saints. They can't make a big mistake and go about like nothing happened. "It is not a religion for wimps, Sam"(Carla in Cheers).
yes atheists love to hate as they yearn to follow their atheistic granddads like atheist Stalin, atheist Mao, atheist Pol pot who killed more in one day for atheism than the entire Inquisition
@anthonymilessee um no again Stalin and Mao still believed in Holy Voodoo bro
All the great generals knew of the Tarot and the Astrotheology which dictates these wars
Certain periods in the heaven to the ancients was when certain Ordo Ab Chao
came about, Creating Chaos all around, because all original religions period come from worship of the stars, because in the beginning mans walkin around staring at stars at night, so came mathematics for super ancient civilizations and those met ET btw :)
I happen to have been raised as a Christian, and hold to those beliefs, however in my lifetime of experience theists are not ones that I've seen as clear thinkers, logical or rational. to the person that made this video, remember what Jesus said remove the plank from your own eye before you remove the splinter from your brother's eye.
@Betaguy2005 good point - but this is to reveal the anti-theist's irrationality, the militant atheists already expose the other side often. and since i study years of logic and CT, i have removed the beam out of my eye - now u should remove the forest from yours.
@anthonymilessee it sounds like you are amilitant theist, how is that any better than a militant atheist? I already said I hold to the faith, and have been brought up as a Christian. I am not mentioning how I'm better than anyone else, I'm not even attacking anyone. I only mentioned my life experience, looking at the state the church has been in and is in, and my interactions with people that call themselves christian.
I even try to accept people who disagree with me. where is the forest?
@Betaguy2005: another good observation. the diff is Christians have the truth and atheists help lead people to hell. --- and u did rebuke me - that seems to place u under your own definition of an attack. but for a correction of your definition see John the Bap in Matt 3 and Jesus in Matt 23, then Jude, 1 Peter, as well as countless verses in the NT.
Science observes all that is, breaks apart that which is known into the smallest components that it can. learns all that it can and postulates (guesses) about what it cannot yet define - seeking HOW we came to exist. Religion uses the exact same process, seeking to determine WHY we came to exist. They are not mutually exclusive at all, and logic can be used equally for both systems until you reach the unknown and then all is faith (guessing) beyond that point.
@itsadeadmansparty Amen is a Hebrew word, its origin comes from Judaism and then into Greek and on to Christianity. The root is the Hebrew verb 'aman' which means to be firm, confirmed, reliable, faithful, have faith, believe. Just because two words in completely different languages sound similar they are often spelled the same when translated into English, which is where you made your first mistake. The correct spelling and pronunciation of the Egyptian god was AMUN, not amen.
@Mikanojo yes amen and amun are exactly one in the same, sorry its a wake up call for you,
its called the Egyptian Book of the dead from where jesus's story comes from, and the worship is of Amen-Ra
The sun who dies for 3 days and is resurrected lol happens in december, the lights on the tree symbolize the mushrooms the people use to take, im sorry to shatter the facade you placed in front of you but,yes christians are sun worshippers,Your day is called Sun Day lol common your really seein it!
@itsadeadmansparty Apparently you did not understand a single word that i wrote. You are either really sad or intentionally trying to twist the writing of others into your own silly fantasy. You have no clue about actual history, and you offer a fictional story from a movie as your example of wisdom? lol pathetic. You have even less wisdom than the maker of this video - no logic in circular thinking and outright lies and misquotes - you only prove your own stupidity.
@Mikanojo Honestly Mikanojo I dont think I can help you become unbrainwashed, i tried to direct you to many pieces of evidence in which you can fact check yourself, you need to stop trolling the comment board for religion love, start facing the fact that man needs no religion
In the 17th Chapter of St. Luke it is written: "the Kingdom of God is within man" — not one man nor a group of men, but in all men! In you!
Take Care Mikanojo
Watch a movie Called Zeitgeist it will wake you up 4 sure!!
@itsadeadmansparty YOu claim to wish to help me overcome 'brainwashing' by suggesting that i read and watch brainwashing content. Do you have any idea how ludicrous that is? i have watched Zeitgeist and the sequel - the same old silliness about world mind control and conspiracies.. not a single bit of proof of anything in them but a lot of bold lies and people like you swallow them. i fear it is you who has stopped thinking for yourself, you just chose a conspiracy theory as your religion.
@Mikanojo girl nothing you said disproved anything i mentioned, your just crazy is all
I even told you, do the research yourself, when you read the true translations of the bible, it says exactly what i mentioned, and yes you did prove every single point i made, Amen Amine And Amun are the god of the sun
The sun does die for three days every December, thats where the christians took the story of jesus from, The Egyptians lived long before jews ever exists,Africans are the true lineage duhh
@itsadeadmansparty You are not worth trying to teach any more. Just as waste of time. You do not even know how to spell USURY, and you do not know the definition of it. Your mention of the Bible you have mistranslated to claim that god lives inside us, when what it really means is that Jesus was AMONG the people then.. not in a place or building and not still waited for to arrive with trumpets and glory.. but in fact Jesus was already with them - you idiot. You have been disproven completely.
@itsadeadmansparty Judaism is OLDER than the Egyptian civilization.. so no, the faith of the Hebrews did NOT come from some book of the dead - in fact the opposite is true, the Egyptians retold the story they had heard from the Hebrews first! You could learn this for yourself if you actually took the time to read. You have no clue of actual history - instead you cling to silly conspiracy theories. Stop wasting mai time. You are only a fool.
@itsadeadmansparty It means nothing for you to keep spewing BS and claiming the whole of history and all of its teachings are wrong. It is you who has no real understanding of even simple words in the language you are writing in. You have proven you do not understand basic history, have misquoted the Bible, have intentionally misinterpreted such things as dates and days of the week, hoping to twist it all into some silly nonsense but you failed. You are just another lunatic.
@itsadeadmansparty What an openly ignorant interpretation. an outright lie. The candle lights, the shining balls, all represented the sun. The reason for the Greeks celebrating at the time of the winter solstice is because it is the shortest day and longest night of the whole year.. the sun seemed to be dying so they set up sun symbols, the fires that became candles later and then finally electric lights. and the shiny balls to bring the sun back to life. Not mushrooms, you idiot.
@itsadeadmansparty Misspelling Amun, Aman, Amen and Amin does not make them related in any way except in your own mind. Judaism developed actually BEFORE the Egyptian culture and its worship system! SO to claim that Judaism took anything from the Egyptian is just showing your ignorance of history.
@itsadeadmansparty All common days of the week are based on pagan names, but actually the original Christians referred to the first day of the week as the Lord's day, not Sunday. The Jewish people hold Shabbat on Saturdays and the Muslims have Jjumu'ah on a Fridays. Even though you are trying to pretend they are all the same. To Christians the first day of the week is the day of worship. The acceptance of the Julian CALENDAR is what made Sunday the first day of the week - backwards again..
@itsadeadmansparty you are not only a fool but a lying fool who hopes to misguide others into the same stupidity. You are no longer arguing with me, your argument now is with the history of the world, which denies all that you have claimed. Of course you would claim that the whole world has been brainwashed and only you know the truth ne? I will not waste another moment trying to show you how wrong you still are - i cannot teach an idiot who wishes to remain stupid.
@itsadeadmansparty Muslims do not speak 'amen' either.. rather their word in Arabic is 'amin' and the definition is literally 'so be it'. Again it is an affirmation, to declare belief. It has exactly nothing to do with Egyptian theology. it actually predates the Egyptian civilization. So would you claim that the Egyptians are really meaning 'so be it' when they wrote of Amun Ra? lol it is the exact same stupidity you claimed for Christians.
@Mikanojo no the arabic Amine - is the same word as Christians Amen, because both religions took there stories from the Eyptian, im very sorry you were not told this before but its not Judao-Christian, its actually Egypto- Christian
its a wake up call for many people i know, so dont take it hard, but the story are from the Egyptian book fo the dead written thousands of years before christ ever walked, We muslims and the christians both end prayers the same way to the very same god, Amen
@itsadeadmansparty You almost did have one thing correct.. many of the date setting for Christian celebrations were intentionally set to draw people away from other pagan festivals.. The exact dates for most events in the Bible are not known.. so there was no need to hold them at set dates - so instead they simply used the pagan dates and converted the celebration. Mithras (Greek version of Mithra) was worshiped at winter solstice Dec 21-22 by the Greeks.. Christmas was set on December 25.
@itsadeadmansparty And before you get too far lost, Mithras was originally an Iranian god Mithra.. Zoroastrian yazata Mithra and his actual worship dates were the sixteenth day of each month and the seventh month of the year. There are other gods in other cultures with similar names like Mitra.. but while you might confuse them, the rest of us will not.
@itsadeadmansparty So just to clear it all up for you and for anyone else who is so ignorant of history and Christianity, the Christmas tree with the shiny lights / balls is a pagan tradition from the Greek worship of an adopted god Mithras.. the only connection with Christianity at all was the closeness of the festival dates (Mithras on Dec 21-22, Christ on Dec 25. Your fairy connection is maybe a stretch from Santa Claus.. confused with Kris Kringle who was an elf - not a Christian story.
@Mikanojo I mean you dont even know how the comment section works on Youtube, why should i be trying to talk with a person who has no idea how anything works, I gave you resources to determine by yourself
I said Do Not Take My Word, LOOK IT UP, I said that
I even mentioned, Your Day is called SUN DAY, because your day is the day to pray to Amen-Ra
The God of the sun
its so simple its stupid
you cant back out of the truth, its written in black and white
@itsadeadmansparty Not only are your simple claims easily disproven, but now you cannot even spell them correctly? No, Sunday was made the first day of the week when the Julian (Roman) calendar was accepted.. before that the first day of the week for the Christian was the Lord's day.. no relationship at all, and in fact there is the Adventist denomination who worships on Saturday in protest over that same stupidity to this very day. First came the day, then later came the calendar - idiot.
@itsadeadmansparty so after showing you, Alfred Hitchcock,hundreds of points you still wanna believe in your fairy tales that christianity was before Egyptian Book of the dead, wow you are stubburn, no problem
because i left you with everything you need to verify what i said for yourself, its up to you now
@itsadeadmansparty You have not actually shown even ONE point. All that you have done is repeat easily misproven lies, falsely compared words in different languages and claimed they had the same meaning, Egyptian civilization came together in 3150 BC, Judaism is a little over 4000 years old.. if you would read your history you would learn that for yourself. You have only proven you do not know what you are writing about - nothing more.
@Mikanojo Im very sorry you have been lied to about the 3150, as the Egyptians are easily 400 thousand year old civilization
They put the evidence in stone for you, its called the Great Pyramid, it alligns with the constellation from at least 400 thousand years ago, they are not simply 5000 year old people
They are much more older - The Talmud is babylonian so, all ur stories originate from these people of Egypt and Sumeria but dont believe me, check for yourself,its freely available to verify
@itsadeadmansparty the Great Pyramid was built over a 20 year period, according to the Egyptians themselves who recorded it in the hieroglyphic writing on the structure, in 2560 BC. I hope that you are at least smart enough to realize that BC dates count down to the common era, and that 2560 BC is LESS than 3150 BC, the time that the Egyptian civilization was established? You are making false claims about a lot of history - the whole world, ( a few idiots aside) disagrees with you.
@itsadeadmansparty I will let you have the last words.. i understand that ego driven types like you really need that false sense of control. Your own writing has proven repeatedly that you honestly have no knowledge AT ALL about history, religion, or logic. You simply rant, lie, and repeat. lol.. You are part of the lunatic fringe that cannot accept reality. There is no point in wasting more time with you. Spongebob is a better teacher than you, at least he has SOME wisdom. Goodbye
@Mikanojo: im glad another militant irrational anti-theist admits that he gets his philosophy from Sponge bob. how do those corners fit on your alternate lifestyle earth suit?
@anthonymilessee you read what i commented and concluded that badly? Basic reading and comprehension seems to be a serious problem for you. First, i am a Christian, not anti-theist OR anti-atheist.. Second, as i wrote before, science seeks to understand HOW we came to be, while religion seeks to answer WHY we are here, and you CAN use logic equally in both pursuits - until you come to the end of what you can prove - all after is a matter of faith for BOTH science and religion. God help you.
@anthonymilessee And what you missed in the comment regarding Spongebob is that watching his show was preferable to continuing the comment thread with that idiot who only kept writing lies, misquoting everything and everyone, and then repeating them hoping that if he lied the same lie often enough that others would simply accept his stupidity as truth. Now please read that again.. slowly this time. and see if it sinks in.
@Mikanojo I pointed out that anyone can verify what I said, You can literally goto the ancient writings and see Christianity got all its ideas from the older civilizations, mainly the Egyptians, lol they even found letter for letter copy of the story of Noahs Ark in the Ancient Summerian Tablets Lol
So once again I demand you stop trolling the comment section and provide evidence the bible is in anyway original stories, because 12 other periods of history with same identical story but older,So..
@Mikanojo the idea came from what anthonymilessee inside the comments section? you were also a commenter so thats where that came from, nobody is intoxicated, im just pointing out that anthonymilessee statement about mao and hitler and stalin were incorrect, you made comment and i responded to you as well, thats where it came from? sorry you dont understand the comments section
@Mikanojo its really sad to see many people who just havent studied egyptian culture and its effect on certain religions, my last and closing statement to you, to give you a wake up call is
The Man Who Knew Too Much
A movie by Alfred Hitchcock
A scene starts,
The two main characters follow a man into a church, but before entering the church they talk about a stratagy, and James says"Ohh its a sun worshippers Church" then they both enter Church
@Mikanojo Mikano Listen, I could spend hours on this but im correct, many movies have been made about this connection to Christianity and Egypt K So the two resources i really honestly you at least look into are
watch video 6RrajokEB6M Called Amun-Ra in the bible
K that would help clear the brainwashing part of you, next onto the hard part,explaining where the serious origins of christianity comes from
that task I leave to Jordan Maxwell who clearly using like 8 different fact checked sources
@Mikanojo The problem Mikanojo is that this is a wakeup call for you, thats why you dont understand any of the things i mentioned, Every single thing i said You can verify yourself, You still should make an attempt to look at root words and where things actually came from, the egyptians existed for 400 thousand years before Juda, this can be proven when you begin to see what exactly the Pyramids allign to, You should also know about the god NETER who is the one and true god,AKA Nature or the one
@Mikanojo Elohim is none other than Cronus, Or you can say EL who is the god of the christians and muslims and even the jews, The story of Abraham and Isaac (Genesis 22) "Take your son, your only son--yes, Isaac, whom you love so much--and go to the land of Moriah. Go and sacrifice him as a burnt offering on one of the mountains, which I will show you."
Because the stupid story is older than both Christians and Jews,Because Eygptians knew the god Saturn
You equate logic to mythology , and call an Atheist irrational ... I can not say anymore to you since you are at the level of a nematode in a modern society.
so, a =a , then my penis =a is a = penis so god exists? so god exists then god exists
a = a, if my penis exist then vagina cannot since not penis = vagina then if i have a vagina then god does not exist? that was the basics of your "logic" which i used to disprove god... next!
someone get this guy into a university and learn what real logic is... for SCIENCE sake this non-sense has gotta stop. have you heard of a thing called induction? basics of logic, u dont have to account for every single particle in this universe to prove something. and since we cannot account for everything that has ever happened we cannot disprove god, and sadly that is the ONLY thing theists hold on to...
@eatmyshorts2007 While the a priori is = is argument is based on a philosophy that claims all things are possible thus all things must exist (denying observation and probability) and so is not actually logic at all - i must correct you on one point you stated that "we cannot disprove god, and sadly that is the ONLY thing theists hold on to.." Theists who actually DO use logic can point out that observation denies random chance creation and so logically there is proof of intelligent design.
@Mikanojo I recommend you check out the movie The Man Who Knew Too Much by Alfred Hitchcock K check it out for yourself, I didnt exist in the year this movie was made, K do you understand See what im telling you? Im throwing you a life line,take hold! WATCH THE MOVIE Hitchcock will tell you what i have been trying to tell you for a long time now, I tried writing all of it, it takes too long, Hitchcock will show you what im talking about K check out The Man Who Knew Too Much :) Take it easy!!
@eatmyshorts2007 the ratiocination of intelligent design eventually drags in all, theists and non-theists alike.. but into different mental prisons. The theist assumes that intelligent design originates from a deity, but then WHICH deity immediately becomes a question of faith, which is illogical. The non-theist must seek a different excuse.. randomness being disproven, they either use the agnostic " i dunno" shrug or hunt for extraterrestrials, which again is a matter of faith not fact.
and i think to summerize what anthonymilessee was saying is, since the first cultures on earth used god,fear of god, mechanics of celestial objects came from the sopossed god,and even helped language,anthonymil is his god made all science
I happened on this thinking it might be an intellectual argument for theism. This is one of the dumbest things I have seen. It is void of fact, and full of baseless claims. I do not desire to debate ignorance. Just wanted to chime in quickly and let you know I have not hurt or ached since accepting the truth and denying the super natural.
@anthonymilessee OK, so religious fanatics do better political leaders, you say? I don't see G. W. Bush or the Israeli goverment as great saviours of mankind, precisely... I'd rather classify them as those who "enjoy killing millions". Please, reconsider your arguments. You talk a lot about logic as if you knew something about philosophy, but you actually use phalacies constantly.
@anthonymilessee I disagree, being that religion has divided and conquerored, not rulers, who pharohs,
The main force of evil is religion and money,as they divide and conqueror, the people always voted for a dictator dont you see? they wanted hitler, they wanted mao, but its usually a manufactured choice, since the elite have always been pushing buttons on how to control man, any nationalism or method of dividing people is the problem, i recommend you investigate The Venus Project
@itsadeadmansparty While men throughout all history have perverted religions into excuses for personal plans, it should be understood that religions did not create the concept of good and evil. Evil is/are selfish acts that harm others. not all selfish acts are evil.. say.. eating the last piece of cake, and causing harm to others while in defense of self or others is not evil, but to steal the last piece of food from a person.. that is evil, even if it is the means to a good end for others.
@Mikanojo Sorry religion has always been a personal plan, either being a magician to make a living, but everyone prostitutes themselves in this society, thats how we get by
everything you do is letting other use your body for a certain amount of time,
Thats why they call it human resource department, your mearly a resource to them, its compeletely contrary to say the venus project, I recommend you check out a book called The Best that Money Can't Buy, like the word dog tags,theyre used as dog
@itsadeadmansparty Incorrect on many points.. Religion has always been an attempt to take all that IS known/observed and make educated(?) hopeful theories about the origin of all that exists, and to seek a REASON for existence. Not just how did i come to exist but WHY are we here, is this all there is? Apparently many people who DO prostitute themselves lose perspective of the reality for others who do not - you seem brainwashed by a book - how is that different than a Christian?
@Mikanojo okay r we talking about the same religion?the christians right?the people who think magical fairies or angels will take care of you no matter what,even if you dont feed your kids,god figure will help u right?btw all humans prostitute themselves to survive, not some but all, its because we are born into slavery,we are living a manufactured landscape! we are not in equalibrium with nature anymore,we keep procreating like there is no tomorrow but there is a tomorrow and its now we screwed
@Mikanojo okay r we talking about the same religion?the christians right?the people who think magical fairies or angels will take care of you no matter what,even if you dont feed your kids,god figure will help u right?btw all humans prostitute themselves to survive, not some but all, its because we are born into slavery,we are living a manufactured landscape! we are not in equalibrium with nature anymore,we keep procreating like there is no tomorrow but there is a tomorrow and its now we screwed
@itsadeadmansparty The more you write the more cloudy your thoughts seem to be. The only thing that is becoming more apparent is that you do not understand Christianity in any form, except for possibly as viewed from a great distance through a jaded myopic telescope. It would take many comment spaces just to define the many denominations of Christianity and their differences, but only the lunatic fringe suffer from the delusions you claim. Your concept of Christianity is far from accurate..
@Mikanojo aitheists are not the problem and none of the people mentioned above are true athiest, they still thought a creator would save them in the end, they felt they were the men who created religion in the first place which was star worship, funny its called warship- all im saying about the book is look at the title only, see we cant even buy good things because we r sopossed to be consumers only! make shitty products so u have to get two,The venus project is only an approach to today issues
@itsadeadmansparty I think you need to put down what ever it is you are smoking and consider going outside to get some cleaner air, and i do not mean that as an insult at all - your comment is incoherent and it usually indicates lack of sleep or intoxication.. both conditions that getting away from the toxic substance and getting fresh air in a better environment will help you with. Atheists are NOT a problem and not even the silly video maker tried to claim that. That idea came from YOU.
@anthonymilessee I disagree, being that religion has divided and conquerored, not rulers, who pharohs,
The main force of evil is religion and money,as they divide and conqueror, the people always voted for a dictator dont you see? they wanted hitler, they wanted mao, but its usually a manufactured choice, since the elite have always been pushing buttons on how to control man, any nationalism or method of dividing people is the problem, i recommend you investigate The Venus Project
@itsadeadmansparty sorry but to close i need to point out, i have never actually met a christian i have heard many people say they practice the christian way, but no person in usa is christian,they dont follow the lords prayer or practice what they preach, sorry but its true,see thats why tvp has answers,we gave the religious ones hundreds of years to do what they claim,none ever did
all it did was divide you,gods too big for one religion
if you own a bank account that is usually called usery
@itsadeadmansparty And before anyone else is twisted into ignorantly accepting more lies as truth.. 'USURY" is NOT owning a bank account, or having savings.. Usury is the crime of overcharging others.. charging too much interest on loans, charging too much for goods and services - basically extortion. With the internet literally at our fingertips, how hard is it to do a bit a research and learn some thing?
@Mikanojo but you accept interest, therefore, you participate in usery
you could even say that the federal reserve act makes sure all persons create debt and therefore is a slave to bankers and interest which doesnt exist to begin with! thats why you can't debt yourself out of debt, so usery is shaped in people from our culture, but it will slowly change when more computerization occurs, when my point will be proven that we all eventually learn to co-exist in a resource based economy
@anthonymilessee hey anthony all these mentioned still actually believed in a higher force, people think they were atheist but they were not -, Hitler, Stalin, Mao,Lenin, Castro all believed creationist principles, Hitler even practised all his soldiers in theist belief, hell even the vatican helped the nazi's lol
the laws of logic are universal, unchanging, and non-physical and the physical only, always changing, non-universal cosmos could not produce them nor account for them, only the God of the Bible is universal, unchanging and has universal power, reach and knowledge to ground the necessary laws of logic.
repent of your alogical anti-theism and come to truth and expiation
hey thanks to all the atheist knuckleheads for the kind comments - but b of good cheer all your dopey anti-theistic claims presuppose theism as they must utilize the laws of logic which only God can ground
when u find yourself shaking like a falling leaf in the darkness of your room - remember to repent and trust God
Human society is developing a global neuronal system (the internet) and very analogous to an infant growing up, there are various impulses stimulating this global brain, external as well as from within. The ever ongoing debate over our origins will eventually unfold a greater truth beyond our current primitive worldviews, as the global infant approaches adulthood it will get wiser and more capable. What we experience are growing pains, hurts like a bitch but necessary. So live long and prosper;)
@quitchiboo a=a (any meaning of a word or letter) a ~ non-a (any idea/thing/predication that is not another idea/thing, pred) - these laws are implied and required in every act of thought or assertion or denial
only theism provides the necessary conditions for the possibility of knowledge because some truths ( laws of logic, moral law) r necessary for thought, knowledge, and intelligibility which only theism supplies the a priori essentials for these necessities
@anthonymilessee and what exactly are you trying to say here? that you're an theist? good for you mate;) however hypothetically is there a source of knowledge where your personal god got his intelligence from to pass it on to us? maybe we'll understand this better once were fused to an global super-intelligence.
i found it funny when i tried to dislike and then realised that ratings were disabled
georgeyfran117 1 month ago
"I condemn false prophets, I condemn the effort to take away the power of rational decision, to drain people of their free will - and a hell of a lot of money in the bargain. Religions vary in their degree of idiocy, but I reject them all. For most people, religion is nothing more than a substitute for a malfunctioning brain."
-GENE FUCKING RODDENBERRY, THE CREATOR STAR TREK. YOU DUMBASS.
CodyLee1224 2 months ago
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... wacko.
TheGutterMonkey 2 months ago
Frankly Mr Spock would have been agnostic. I dont know a single episode where he went around bitching because something went against his preconceived notions. Atheist are nothing like Spock. They made up there minds on invisible evidence and reject anything that could goes against there worldview. Im Agnostic. I find Atheist to be highly illogical. Not to mention boring know-it-all.
Tuber77 3 months ago
@Tuber77 Agnosticism is not mutually exclusive of atheism or theism. It's not fence sitting, or halfway between the two. I'm curious as to what you think the Atheist position is?
Moh5Itachi1 2 months ago
Theists need to know the answer, and if they can't get that answer they replace 'I don't know' with theism. Atheism is not afraid to say 'I don't know', but we will work to find the answer. - Simply atheism requires evidence, theism does not. <3
papermermaid 3 months ago 3
Theism is more logical than Atheism? I must be at that weird part of YouTube again.
H4I2I2EE 3 months ago 5
There is absolutely nothing "logical" about this.
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SCIENCE FLIES YOU TO THE MOON. RELIGION FLIES YOU INTO BUILDINGS...
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IncomingMonkeyTurd 3 months ago
If no evidence is provided in favor of a claim, then said claim can be rejected outright. I do not need to disprove god. The mere fact that there is absolutely no evidence to suggest god exists means that I can reject the claim "god exists". When someone makes a claim with nothing to back it up, it gets rejected. God is no exception to logic. Why would he create us with brains only to forego their use?
drche420 3 months ago
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QuestionReadLearn 3 months ago
Major FAIL!
The premise is dumb with a capital "B". That's "dumB", which we all can agree is dumb. And that's the point.
The rules of logic are not dependent on a God any more than the rules of basic arithmetic are. 2+2 doesn't equal 4 because God said so; it equals 4 because it can't equal anything else.
SpaceOdyssey56 4 months ago
Right on the MONEY! It is illogical to not consider all possibilities and God is a possibility.
Trekfreek 4 months ago
@Trekfreek
Even an atheist like myself can admit that a god could possibly exist. However, the mere possibility of something existing should not govern your beliefs. For example, it is possible that Bigfoot, Leprachauns, ghosts, demons, etc. exists. Should we believe they exist? No. Until someone finds evidence that these things exist, it is logical to disbelieve. I did not say I believe that god doesn't exist. I am simply unconvinced that god exists. I can be pursuaded with evidence.
drche420 3 months ago
@drche420 If you acknowledge the possibility of God or a god then you are not an atheist you are, like Roddenberry, an agnostic. I find most people who want solid proof will always reject that proof if they can find some kind of excuse. Proving God exists is like proving sexual harassment, unless there is some kind of DNA on top of the multiple witnesses the camera shots and physical after effects people just will not believe. They could be possessed by God and they still would not believe.
Trekfreek 3 months ago
@Trekfreek
Boy, if I had a nickel for every time some idiot tried to tell me what I believe. Read carefully. An atheist is simply someone who does not have a belief in any god. Even though I am not claiming the nonexistance of god, I do not believe in god. Since I do not believe in god, I am atheist. If you don't understand this, don't worry. Many simple minded people can't. If you have trouble, try killing yourself.
drche420 3 months ago
@drche420 How would "killing yourself" explain that you are an atheist who believes in the possibility of a god? You can call yourself anything you want too, I was only pointing out that your beliefs do not reflect the dictionary's definition of atheist. PS. Telling people to "try killing yourself" is a sign of someone who hates himself. You will never hear anyone who truly believes in God say such horrible things as "try killing yourself".
Trekfreek 3 months ago
@Trekfreek
The 'dictionary definition', as you call it, is not important. Any self proclaimed atheist will tell you that when we accept the label 'atheist', it means:
Athiest--> without belief in a god or gods
It is logical to say that many things are possible, but does that mean I believe all these things exist? No. Its clear you haven't thought about this very much. Fairies are possible. I don't believe in faires. See how this works?
drche420 3 months ago
@drche420 From your definitions I'm a psychologist, a quantum physicist and a movie producer just by saying it is so makes it true! Even though I never followed the rules regarding becoming a psychologist, quantum physicist or movie producer. Grow up! The world does not work that way. Even religions have their rules. No one can declare themselves a Jew, Catholic, Lutheran, Hindu... they must follow the rules of the churches!
Trekfreek 3 months ago
@Trekfreek
A psychologist is one who practices psychology. I would be correct to say that a psychologist would be the best person to ask what "psychology " means. Similarly, I would be correct to say that an atheist would be the best person to ask what "atheism" means. You're acting childish by stretching by my argument to ridiculous proportions then ridiculing the result.
drche420 3 months ago
@drche420 I'm pointing out how ridicules you sound. You don't like society's definition of Atheism so you reject it. You don't like the fact that institutions like the Catholic Church has rules, because it proves Hitler lied about being a Catholic, so you reject that too. So tell me again which one of us is acting childish? Rejecting facts because it does not fit you little world is the sign of an unstable person. Time to grow up JR.
Trekfreek 3 months ago
@Trekfreek
Society's definition? I was only trying to eliminate bias. If the source of your definition is not atheist, how can you be sure you have the correct definition? I even used your own insult against you in explaining how a psychologist would be the best source for your definition of 'psychology'. Again, this is a very simple concept. Do you still not understand? If you understand I would really appreciate you making a Specific objection.
drche420 3 months ago
@drche420 You really are either completely dyslexic or just refuse to read what I write. You were trying to project your own bias. The dictionary is the correct source for definitions. I have worked with true atheists and they are more respectful of facts and other people's religions then you are. Second, that was not an insult, but if you were insulted you did not get what I was pointing out. Simple concepts are defined by society not you.
Trekfreek 3 months ago
@Trekfreek This may be a misunderstanding due to your expectations of a dictionary. A dictionary does not necessarily have all the meanings of a specific word.
There is no such thing as a "true atheist" any more than there is such thing as a "true christian". Adding "true" is an attempt to judge the sincerety of somone else's beliefs. I'll stress again, it is not your place to judge sincerety. About the facts, you still haven't denied the validity of my psychologist analogy.
drche420 3 months ago
@drche420 Now you’re hitting below the belt! There is such a thing as a true Christian and I know one atheist who would punch your lights out for saying "no such thing as a "true atheist"". Do you get off on making shit up or do you really think this ridiculous way? You can continue with your ranting on your own. I’m done until you get a proper education.
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@Trekfreek
Your atheist friend does not sound like a very rational person. Running from the truth won't change the facts.
Adding "true" is merely an attempt to separate yourself from other christians/atheists. Sorry to burst your bubble, but that qualifier is exactly that. A qualifier.
drche420 3 months ago
I thought this was a joke at first but then I realized it is backwards and misguided.
You realize that validity, proof, and evidence are key bases for logic, right? In the god-belief, there are non of these things.
Spock is supposed to be fully based on logic even though he missteps once in awhile due to his half-human side and his cultural rituals, that would make no sense for an atheist to perform.
Some would think to place Spock as the ultimate Atheist in the Star Trek but I would say Data.
BrokenBard 4 months ago
@BrokenBard
I agree. Data is a completely objective creature, free of indoctrination or emotions to cloud judgement. I would say the largest misunderstanding would be that many people think atheists claim god doesn't exist. When will people learn that disbelief and making a claim of nonexistance are completely different things!?
drche420 3 months ago
@drche420 Well said.
BrokenBard 3 months ago
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God is necessary for the LOI & the LNC (Laws of logic). Theism is certain since the Laws of Logic must be pre-assumed as fixed Laws - (universal perpetual application) or assertions & communication are imposs. Law of NonCon is non-physical, universal, immutable, transcendent, cannot be the case unless- God exists as non-phys. univ. imm. tran. atemporal is required to ground Laws. Since LNC is indeed true, thus must God exist.
anthonymilessee 4 months ago
@anthonymilessee
What is the difference between an invisible, intangible, undetectable being and a non-existant one?
drche420 3 months ago
@anthonymilessee so what law of logic is necessary exactly to be created by god and why ?
orchidswholesale 1 month ago
DISLIKE!! This is bullshit.
Krinthalas 4 months ago 2
the less of people like you mister..the happier the world will be :P
666MIHI 5 months ago 2
"Ratings have been disabled for this video." I wonder why? HAHAHA
I'd like to add vote to this video in writing (I DISLIKE)..... And something tells me, I'm not the only one. ;)
xLance2000 5 months ago 27
cousin, you are contradicting yourself about having an open mind. Everything is subjective or objective in our world. The gift of privilege and freedom that matters most right now. The progress & the better of humanity. The growth and nurturing of altruism that we all experience and have been experiencing for how ever long the earth has been here, thousand that you believe in or the millions of years I believe in. It's all on how you would like to be guided, or in my opinion, controlled.
JosephFiero 5 months ago
cousin, you are contradicting yourself about having an open mind. Everything is subjective or objective or our world. The gift of privilege and freedom that matters most right now. The progress & the better of humanity. The growth and nurturing of altruism that we all experience and have been experiencing for how ever long the earth has been here, thousand that you believe in or the millions of years I believe in. It's all on how you would like to be guided, or in my opinion, controlled.
JosephFiero 5 months ago
Hume's problem is in regards to predicting behavior, not nature or natural laws. The difference is one must ignore the fatal flaw of animal behavior to conclude that Hume's problem of induction is an honest approach at prediction.
bulletbikesyke69 5 months ago
bulletbikesyke69 5 months ago
atheist am dumb! They am so dumb and not logical. God is real , duh! , but not allah or pink unicorns or fairys or the catholics god or jews god but the one i believe in. Thank you for your time.
uewVumopVapIsVdn 5 months ago
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Fuck your god.
Arimus66 5 months ago
@anthonymilessee Logic is made by humans, just like god. Its makes since to think that logic is made by god, because we made god and then created logic. Logic works without a god figure, because it is made from the observation and then testing. However, Logic is not a sound practice. There are things that negate logic and do not abide by them. IE "superparticles." Using logic to prove a logical negative (god) is just not logical.
ZTFreedom 5 months ago
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pscarlata 5 months ago
You are insane. Stop making videos. Seek medical help.
ChristopherDone 5 months ago 37
Except a problem we have found in our dna, that a recent Cryptographer decoded in our human dna, left over upgrades to dna, that are commented out in our present dna body, the cryptographer proved that all the extra information left in DNA was for a purpose, the purpose is possible upgrades
This implies a more advanced civilization exists and wrote changes to our dna for additional upgrades to exist, his findings appear very solid, so you could be right that a super intelligent race created man
itsadeadmansparty 5 months ago
@anthonymilessee All im saying period is, A you could literally raise a child and never say the word god or give them god theory and they would still function as any other person, with a personality, god isnt nessesary for electro biochemical processes to occur, you are like a machine made from parts which operate a certain way, when they malfunction your body stop functioning thus you r dead, just like a computer CPU take away the energy and the cpu doesnt continue motion,but who knows with DNA
itsadeadmansparty 5 months ago
I'm sure Spock was a Christian. It makes perfect sense.
TheDrCN 5 months ago
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1 more atheist knucklehead, just an atheist fundamentalist wing-nut that hates the Laws of Logic as much as you hate God - sorry to disturb u with Deduction, it's a bit heady for atheist fundies, go & study the epistemology and logic & get back to me -
the laws of logic are necessary & so is God.
the great news is all your crazy philosophical schemes & nuttiness presuppose God for they must employ the laws of logic which require God
anthonymilessee 5 months ago
@anthonymilessee wait are you talking laws of physics, then obviously atheist also are aware of the sciences and math,you need no god to do math, god is just dog spelled backward you see
yes I agree that the first gods gave man the imagination to invent math and really the idea of math came from gods but when i say gods i really mean extra terrestrials who already mastered math and science, they taught the humans about the planets and the stars, so the issue is more then yes and no, its quantum
itsadeadmansparty 5 months ago
@anthonymilessee ummmm dude hating god for an atheist is a waste of time.....you make the claim your god exists.....yet you have no prove of said god....all you seem to have is assurtions that god is real and nessicary and to presuppose anything before coming to any conclusion is to taint any real or actual fact or truth cause anything that disaggres with your presupposion will be ignored......i have no intention of scheming you in anyway. if you have prove then show prove and stop assurting
Xlivesforever 5 months ago
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Your lack of logic calls you to deny truth and goodness and embrace a nefarious notion that reflects how much a miscreant you are; your weak world view that supplies wicked ethics & crooked reason is manifested in your assertions. Theism must be, for without it you cannot even account for the intelligibility of the world you despise almost as much as your own heart.
anthonymilessee 5 months ago
@anthonymilessee
Your claims smell awfully like conviction. I'm afraid conviction is not enough to convince an intelligent / skeptical person of anything supernatural. Wanting a god to exist does not make it so. Instead of embracing life and all the unanswered questions, you've wasted your one and only guaranteed life in defference to your imaginary friend. Yes. You have an imaginary friend.
drche420 3 months ago
@anthonymilessee you made a good point, god is about heart, NOT LOGIC
orchidswholesale 1 month ago
Arguments by popularity are still arguments by popularity, no matter how you paint it, it is still a fallacy and an invalid argument. That is the only way religion "wins" is by telling half truths and straight out lies, the trick is to see through them. When I say read I mean that literally read the bible objectively and skeptically that is the only way to read anything.
laxguy22655 5 months ago
Father Darwin had many sons,
Many sons had father Darwin:
Nietzsche, Hitler, Stalin, Mao.
So say atheists let's kill more now,
Lenin, Castro, Kim, and Kim,
For atheism killed 'bout 100 million.
Atheism doesn't possess an absolute, universal
ground for morals, thus it produces political leaders
who enjoy killing millions for the promotion of atheism.
anthonymilessee 5 months ago
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@anthonymilessee
... Atheism is not a belief system. It is a label to describe a very specific group of people: those who lack belief in a god or gods. Disbelief motivates nothing. Belief in god can motivate radical behavior (such as Catholic Hitler or Muslim Terrorists). Yes, Hitler was Catholic. Look it up.
drche420 3 months ago
@drche420 Hitler was not a Catholic! "Goebbels notes in a diary entry in 1939 a conversation in which Hitler had "expressed his revulsion against Christianity" "Hitler's private statements about Christianity were often conflicting. Hitler's intimates, such as Joseph Goebbels, Albert Speer, and Martin Bormann suggest that Hitler generally had negative opinions of Christianity" (Wikipedia Adolf Hitler’s religious views). You obviously did not look it up! Hitler was only a "Catholic" in public.
Trekfreek 3 months ago
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@Trekfreek
Its not my responsibility to convince you of the truth. Your sources must be questionable because you are simply wrong. Do more unbiased research before you believe what you're told.
drche420 3 months ago
@drche420 A bias person thinks he is 100% right & the facts are wrong. You don't like the facts & the references that I gave you so you get all bent out of shape. Everyone's responsibility is to the truth no matter if that truth changes the general accepted perception of history. Fact is Hitler's closest friends/confidants said that Hitler hated Christianity, & the way Hitler treated Christians towards the end of the war is proof of that.
Trekfreek 3 months ago
@Trekfreek
Your reference was Wikipedia. I don't have to explain myself further, but for your benefit I will. I honestly know for a fact that Hitler was Catholic from many different sources. Every soldier under his command wore a belt buckle that said "God is with us". In Mein Kampf Hitler wrote “by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord”. Even as late as 1941 Hitler told one of his generals: “I am now, as before, a Catholic and will always remain so.”
drche420 3 months ago
@drche420 Reference page wikipedia. Unlike you I double check my sources. Goebbels was the only general he would talk too at the end of the war. You forgot what he did to the Catholics toward the end of the war. Manny Catholic churches were turned into Nazi headquarters. Some Catholics had to hold services hidden from the Nazis, and any Catholic caught helping a Jew was shot. Hitler ignored the Pope’s advice about NOT waging war. Anyone who rejects the teachings of Jesus is not a Catholic.
Trekfreek 3 months ago
@Trekfreek
You've made my point for me. Many Catholic churches were overtaken by Nazi regime. What does this have to do with Hitler's Religion? When a man says he is Roman Catholic, he is Roman Catholic. Who are you to say he wasn't? Wrong.
drche420 3 months ago
@drche420 You obviously know nothing about the Catholic Church. You can't call yourself Catholic & BANG you're a Catholic. It takes years of education & ceremonies to become a full Roman Catholic & if you don't follow the rules or ignore the Pope's advice you are no longer a Catholic & must retake 20%-100% of the lessons if you want to redeem yourself. It took me 16 years to become a full Catholic. Adult Programs are faster but they must still pass all the tests & do all the ceremonies.
Trekfreek 3 months ago
@Trekfreek
The 'rules' of the Catholic church are irrelevant. I'm sorry if you can't understand that. If someone claims to believe in the god of a particular religion, who are you to say they are not sincere? It is not your place to judge the sincerety of someone's belief in god. If you say you are Baptist, I believe you. Why shouldn't I? Quite frankly, you are making very little sense.
drche420 3 months ago
@drche420 Who decided that the rules are irrelevant, you? Who are you to question my religions rules, or practices? Only ignorant people who refuse to face facts say that rules and dictionary definitions are irrelevant. It is you who lack understanding. A wise man once wrote "A fool chatters A wise man listens" You are the chattering fool who refuses to listen to facts. All facts are relevant especially rules and dictionary definitions.
Trekfreek 3 months ago
@Trekfreek
Logic dictates what is relevant and what is not. Not you, not me. If you can't understand facts, that is not my fault. I've given you my evidence by showing you that Hitler has admitted to being Catholic. As for your dictionary defintion confusion, refer to the personal message I sent you. If after all of this you still don't understand, I'm afraid you're not open minded enough to admit you are wrong. I would suggest working on that.
drche420 3 months ago
@drche420 You don't have the right to twist the facts to fit your definition of "relevant". I also gave you irrefutable evidence that Hitler only claimed to be Catholic in public, and he never practiced any of the Catholic rules or follow the Ten Commandments. He also rejected the Pope and persecuted Catholics. It is you who refuses to accept that you are wrong. It is you who is close minded. It is you who can't see past your little world of lies and twisted facts. I pity you.
Trekfreek 3 months ago
@Trekfreek
To save my life, I can't figure out why you're being so difficult. A person does not need to 'practice any of the catholic rules" or follow the ten commandments to be a Catholic. It all boils down to your beliefs. Your actions do not determine your religious label. Your beliefs determine what religion you are.
I can't help but to think you're just angry. Calm down and read my arguments rationally.
drche420 3 months ago
@drche420 Wrong again! How can you be so stupid? Did your mom drop you on your head when you were a BABY? You are mixing being a General Christian with being a Catholic. Your religion determines your faith not the other way around. Your actions define everything about you ESPECIALY your "religious label". You don't know the difference between angry and determined to sink the facts into your thick skull!
Trekfreek 3 months ago
@Trekfreek
Catholicism is a subset of Christianity. The only requirements of the subset are accepting the specific beliefs of that subset.
Also, I've remained calm and tolerant through your insults. The least you can do is show some patience. Honestly, I am trying to find some common ground, but I seem to be getting nowhere since you can't concede the simplest of points. Ironic that you think I'm being thick, since I believe you are the one who is thick headed.
drche420 3 months ago
@drche420 I have not insulted you. I've heckled you. Finally you got something right. Catholicism is a subset of Christianity. So is the Lutheran Church, Mormon, Latter-day Saints and many others. When someone says "I'm a Christian" it only means that he/she believes that Christ existed and that person knows of his teachings. It does not mean that he/she believed he rose from the dead, or that the first Pope was appointed by Jesus. Nor does it mean he follows Christ's teachings. FACTS KID FACTS!
Trekfreek 3 months ago
@Trekfreek
You've parroted back to me my argument against you... We have officially reached an impass.
drche420 3 months ago
@drche420 You have reached that impasse 2 pages ago.
Trekfreek 3 months ago
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Trekfreek 3 months ago
@drche420 Catholics are not the same as Mormons or the Church of Latter-day Saints. They can't make a big mistake and go about like nothing happened. "It is not a religion for wimps, Sam"(Carla in Cheers).
Trekfreek 3 months ago
yes atheists love to hate as they yearn to follow their atheistic granddads like atheist Stalin, atheist Mao, atheist Pol pot who killed more in one day for atheism than the entire Inquisition
anthonymilessee 5 months ago
@anthonymilessee um no again Stalin and Mao still believed in Holy Voodoo bro
All the great generals knew of the Tarot and the Astrotheology which dictates these wars
Certain periods in the heaven to the ancients was when certain Ordo Ab Chao
came about, Creating Chaos all around, because all original religions period come from worship of the stars, because in the beginning mans walkin around staring at stars at night, so came mathematics for super ancient civilizations and those met ET btw :)
itsadeadmansparty 5 months ago
I happen to have been raised as a Christian, and hold to those beliefs, however in my lifetime of experience theists are not ones that I've seen as clear thinkers, logical or rational. to the person that made this video, remember what Jesus said remove the plank from your own eye before you remove the splinter from your brother's eye.
Betaguy2005 5 months ago
@Betaguy2005 good point - but this is to reveal the anti-theist's irrationality, the militant atheists already expose the other side often. and since i study years of logic and CT, i have removed the beam out of my eye - now u should remove the forest from yours.
anthonymilessee 5 months ago
@anthonymilessee it sounds like you are amilitant theist, how is that any better than a militant atheist? I already said I hold to the faith, and have been brought up as a Christian. I am not mentioning how I'm better than anyone else, I'm not even attacking anyone. I only mentioned my life experience, looking at the state the church has been in and is in, and my interactions with people that call themselves christian.
I even try to accept people who disagree with me. where is the forest?
Betaguy2005 5 months ago
@Betaguy2005: another good observation. the diff is Christians have the truth and atheists help lead people to hell. --- and u did rebuke me - that seems to place u under your own definition of an attack. but for a correction of your definition see John the Bap in Matt 3 and Jesus in Matt 23, then Jude, 1 Peter, as well as countless verses in the NT.
anthonymilessee 5 months ago
Highly illogical.
RaptureD87 5 months ago
only thing missing are facts. Hmm, your logic escapes, to quote spock "Labels do not make convincing arguments"
CapQuacer 5 months ago
Science observes all that is, breaks apart that which is known into the smallest components that it can. learns all that it can and postulates (guesses) about what it cannot yet define - seeking HOW we came to exist. Religion uses the exact same process, seeking to determine WHY we came to exist. They are not mutually exclusive at all, and logic can be used equally for both systems until you reach the unknown and then all is faith (guessing) beyond that point.
Mikanojo 5 months ago
@Mikanojo sorry but i did not mean to pick on christians particularly, i mean all religion period
every religion i mean, not just christians, who dont exist really...
I mean all the make believe stories that speak of magical fairies, so i needed to clarify
btw christianity is actually sun worship, thats why the muslims and christians both end prayers with Amen
because Amen-Ra was the god of the sun, and dec is not when jesus wouldve been born causes its actually pagan xmas,mithras god
itsadeadmansparty 5 months ago
@itsadeadmansparty Amen is a Hebrew word, its origin comes from Judaism and then into Greek and on to Christianity. The root is the Hebrew verb 'aman' which means to be firm, confirmed, reliable, faithful, have faith, believe. Just because two words in completely different languages sound similar they are often spelled the same when translated into English, which is where you made your first mistake. The correct spelling and pronunciation of the Egyptian god was AMUN, not amen.
Mikanojo 5 months ago
@Mikanojo yes amen and amun are exactly one in the same, sorry its a wake up call for you,
its called the Egyptian Book of the dead from where jesus's story comes from, and the worship is of Amen-Ra
The sun who dies for 3 days and is resurrected lol happens in december, the lights on the tree symbolize the mushrooms the people use to take, im sorry to shatter the facade you placed in front of you but,yes christians are sun worshippers,Your day is called Sun Day lol common your really seein it!
itsadeadmansparty 5 months ago
@itsadeadmansparty lol btw thanks for verifing every single statement i had put to you Mikanojo
Thanks Mikanojo for proving Mithras is where decembers celebrations happened and Amine and Amen are both english translations of the same word
and lastly Christians unknowingly are actual sun worshipper, since there day is actually called Sun day lol
I mean couldnt be more obvious right? lol and yes Amen and Amun are both english translations of the same ending to muslim and christian prayers.Thx!
itsadeadmansparty 5 months ago
@itsadeadmansparty Apparently you did not understand a single word that i wrote. You are either really sad or intentionally trying to twist the writing of others into your own silly fantasy. You have no clue about actual history, and you offer a fictional story from a movie as your example of wisdom? lol pathetic. You have even less wisdom than the maker of this video - no logic in circular thinking and outright lies and misquotes - you only prove your own stupidity.
Mikanojo 5 months ago
@Mikanojo Honestly Mikanojo I dont think I can help you become unbrainwashed, i tried to direct you to many pieces of evidence in which you can fact check yourself, you need to stop trolling the comment board for religion love, start facing the fact that man needs no religion
In the 17th Chapter of St. Luke it is written: "the Kingdom of God is within man" — not one man nor a group of men, but in all men! In you!
Take Care Mikanojo
Watch a movie Called Zeitgeist it will wake you up 4 sure!!
itsadeadmansparty 5 months ago
@itsadeadmansparty YOu claim to wish to help me overcome 'brainwashing' by suggesting that i read and watch brainwashing content. Do you have any idea how ludicrous that is? i have watched Zeitgeist and the sequel - the same old silliness about world mind control and conspiracies.. not a single bit of proof of anything in them but a lot of bold lies and people like you swallow them. i fear it is you who has stopped thinking for yourself, you just chose a conspiracy theory as your religion.
Mikanojo 5 months ago
@Mikanojo girl nothing you said disproved anything i mentioned, your just crazy is all
I even told you, do the research yourself, when you read the true translations of the bible, it says exactly what i mentioned, and yes you did prove every single point i made, Amen Amine And Amun are the god of the sun
The sun does die for three days every December, thats where the christians took the story of jesus from, The Egyptians lived long before jews ever exists,Africans are the true lineage duhh
itsadeadmansparty 5 months ago
@itsadeadmansparty You are not worth trying to teach any more. Just as waste of time. You do not even know how to spell USURY, and you do not know the definition of it. Your mention of the Bible you have mistranslated to claim that god lives inside us, when what it really means is that Jesus was AMONG the people then.. not in a place or building and not still waited for to arrive with trumpets and glory.. but in fact Jesus was already with them - you idiot. You have been disproven completely.
Mikanojo 5 months ago
@itsadeadmansparty Judaism is OLDER than the Egyptian civilization.. so no, the faith of the Hebrews did NOT come from some book of the dead - in fact the opposite is true, the Egyptians retold the story they had heard from the Hebrews first! You could learn this for yourself if you actually took the time to read. You have no clue of actual history - instead you cling to silly conspiracy theories. Stop wasting mai time. You are only a fool.
Mikanojo 5 months ago
@Mikanojo What are you talking about Judaism is not older than egyptian civilization, your not doing any research then
You need to go back and learn the Root of Words, Where things came from, The thirteen tribes of Juda are after the Eygptians
it bothers me not that you have no clue about history, I can mathematically prove the Eygptians are before Juda
its okay, the real problem is people who think amine lol means "so let it be" lol thats Amen-Ra the sun god dummy
Your day is SUN DAY Duhh
itsadeadmansparty 5 months ago
@itsadeadmansparty It means nothing for you to keep spewing BS and claiming the whole of history and all of its teachings are wrong. It is you who has no real understanding of even simple words in the language you are writing in. You have proven you do not understand basic history, have misquoted the Bible, have intentionally misinterpreted such things as dates and days of the week, hoping to twist it all into some silly nonsense but you failed. You are just another lunatic.
Mikanojo 5 months ago
@itsadeadmansparty What an openly ignorant interpretation. an outright lie. The candle lights, the shining balls, all represented the sun. The reason for the Greeks celebrating at the time of the winter solstice is because it is the shortest day and longest night of the whole year.. the sun seemed to be dying so they set up sun symbols, the fires that became candles later and then finally electric lights. and the shiny balls to bring the sun back to life. Not mushrooms, you idiot.
Mikanojo 5 months ago
@itsadeadmansparty Misspelling Amun, Aman, Amen and Amin does not make them related in any way except in your own mind. Judaism developed actually BEFORE the Egyptian culture and its worship system! SO to claim that Judaism took anything from the Egyptian is just showing your ignorance of history.
Mikanojo 5 months ago
@itsadeadmansparty All common days of the week are based on pagan names, but actually the original Christians referred to the first day of the week as the Lord's day, not Sunday. The Jewish people hold Shabbat on Saturdays and the Muslims have Jjumu'ah on a Fridays. Even though you are trying to pretend they are all the same. To Christians the first day of the week is the day of worship. The acceptance of the Julian CALENDAR is what made Sunday the first day of the week - backwards again..
Mikanojo 5 months ago
@Mikanojo haha you cant back out of your own day,lol ITs your Christian Holy Day,Called for heavens sake
Sun Day,
You havnt a clue of the true origins of your religion,
lol the Egyptian were 400 Thousand Years before any Judaism ever existed im sorry but thats just simple history,
you need to begin fact checking your work because no Jews ever existed before The Pharoh
only the Mesopatamians came to be after africa;where people come from according to evolution of Monkeys began to walk hehe
itsadeadmansparty 5 months ago
@itsadeadmansparty you are not only a fool but a lying fool who hopes to misguide others into the same stupidity. You are no longer arguing with me, your argument now is with the history of the world, which denies all that you have claimed. Of course you would claim that the whole world has been brainwashed and only you know the truth ne? I will not waste another moment trying to show you how wrong you still are - i cannot teach an idiot who wishes to remain stupid.
Mikanojo 5 months ago
@itsadeadmansparty Muslims do not speak 'amen' either.. rather their word in Arabic is 'amin' and the definition is literally 'so be it'. Again it is an affirmation, to declare belief. It has exactly nothing to do with Egyptian theology. it actually predates the Egyptian civilization. So would you claim that the Egyptians are really meaning 'so be it' when they wrote of Amun Ra? lol it is the exact same stupidity you claimed for Christians.
Mikanojo 5 months ago
@Mikanojo no the arabic Amine - is the same word as Christians Amen, because both religions took there stories from the Eyptian, im very sorry you were not told this before but its not Judao-Christian, its actually Egypto- Christian
its a wake up call for many people i know, so dont take it hard, but the story are from the Egyptian book fo the dead written thousands of years before christ ever walked, We muslims and the christians both end prayers the same way to the very same god, Amen
itsadeadmansparty 5 months ago
@itsadeadmansparty You almost did have one thing correct.. many of the date setting for Christian celebrations were intentionally set to draw people away from other pagan festivals.. The exact dates for most events in the Bible are not known.. so there was no need to hold them at set dates - so instead they simply used the pagan dates and converted the celebration. Mithras (Greek version of Mithra) was worshiped at winter solstice Dec 21-22 by the Greeks.. Christmas was set on December 25.
Mikanojo 5 months ago
@itsadeadmansparty And before you get too far lost, Mithras was originally an Iranian god Mithra.. Zoroastrian yazata Mithra and his actual worship dates were the sixteenth day of each month and the seventh month of the year. There are other gods in other cultures with similar names like Mitra.. but while you might confuse them, the rest of us will not.
Mikanojo 5 months ago
@itsadeadmansparty So just to clear it all up for you and for anyone else who is so ignorant of history and Christianity, the Christmas tree with the shiny lights / balls is a pagan tradition from the Greek worship of an adopted god Mithras.. the only connection with Christianity at all was the closeness of the festival dates (Mithras on Dec 21-22, Christ on Dec 25. Your fairy connection is maybe a stretch from Santa Claus.. confused with Kris Kringle who was an elf - not a Christian story.
Mikanojo 5 months ago
@Mikanojo I mean you dont even know how the comment section works on Youtube, why should i be trying to talk with a person who has no idea how anything works, I gave you resources to determine by yourself
I said Do Not Take My Word, LOOK IT UP, I said that
I even mentioned, Your Day is called SUN DAY, because your day is the day to pray to Amen-Ra
The God of the sun
its so simple its stupid
you cant back out of the truth, its written in black and white
Egyptians are the Origins of da Bible
itsadeadmansparty 5 months ago
@itsadeadmansparty Not only are your simple claims easily disproven, but now you cannot even spell them correctly? No, Sunday was made the first day of the week when the Julian (Roman) calendar was accepted.. before that the first day of the week for the Christian was the Lord's day.. no relationship at all, and in fact there is the Adventist denomination who worships on Saturday in protest over that same stupidity to this very day. First came the day, then later came the calendar - idiot.
Mikanojo 5 months ago
@itsadeadmansparty so after showing you, Alfred Hitchcock,hundreds of points you still wanna believe in your fairy tales that christianity was before Egyptian Book of the dead, wow you are stubburn, no problem
because i left you with everything you need to verify what i said for yourself, its up to you now
this going out to Mikanojo
itsadeadmansparty 5 months ago
@itsadeadmansparty You have not actually shown even ONE point. All that you have done is repeat easily misproven lies, falsely compared words in different languages and claimed they had the same meaning, Egyptian civilization came together in 3150 BC, Judaism is a little over 4000 years old.. if you would read your history you would learn that for yourself. You have only proven you do not know what you are writing about - nothing more.
Mikanojo 5 months ago
@Mikanojo Im very sorry you have been lied to about the 3150, as the Egyptians are easily 400 thousand year old civilization
They put the evidence in stone for you, its called the Great Pyramid, it alligns with the constellation from at least 400 thousand years ago, they are not simply 5000 year old people
They are much more older - The Talmud is babylonian so, all ur stories originate from these people of Egypt and Sumeria but dont believe me, check for yourself,its freely available to verify
itsadeadmansparty 5 months ago
@itsadeadmansparty the Great Pyramid was built over a 20 year period, according to the Egyptians themselves who recorded it in the hieroglyphic writing on the structure, in 2560 BC. I hope that you are at least smart enough to realize that BC dates count down to the common era, and that 2560 BC is LESS than 3150 BC, the time that the Egyptian civilization was established? You are making false claims about a lot of history - the whole world, ( a few idiots aside) disagrees with you.
Mikanojo 5 months ago
@itsadeadmansparty I will let you have the last words.. i understand that ego driven types like you really need that false sense of control. Your own writing has proven repeatedly that you honestly have no knowledge AT ALL about history, religion, or logic. You simply rant, lie, and repeat. lol.. You are part of the lunatic fringe that cannot accept reality. There is no point in wasting more time with you. Spongebob is a better teacher than you, at least he has SOME wisdom. Goodbye
Mikanojo 5 months ago
@Mikanojo: im glad another militant irrational anti-theist admits that he gets his philosophy from Sponge bob. how do those corners fit on your alternate lifestyle earth suit?
anthonymilessee 5 months ago
@anthonymilessee you read what i commented and concluded that badly? Basic reading and comprehension seems to be a serious problem for you. First, i am a Christian, not anti-theist OR anti-atheist.. Second, as i wrote before, science seeks to understand HOW we came to be, while religion seeks to answer WHY we are here, and you CAN use logic equally in both pursuits - until you come to the end of what you can prove - all after is a matter of faith for BOTH science and religion. God help you.
Mikanojo 5 months ago
@anthonymilessee And what you missed in the comment regarding Spongebob is that watching his show was preferable to continuing the comment thread with that idiot who only kept writing lies, misquoting everything and everyone, and then repeating them hoping that if he lied the same lie often enough that others would simply accept his stupidity as truth. Now please read that again.. slowly this time. and see if it sinks in.
Mikanojo 5 months ago
@Mikanojo I pointed out that anyone can verify what I said, You can literally goto the ancient writings and see Christianity got all its ideas from the older civilizations, mainly the Egyptians, lol they even found letter for letter copy of the story of Noahs Ark in the Ancient Summerian Tablets Lol
So once again I demand you stop trolling the comment section and provide evidence the bible is in anyway original stories, because 12 other periods of history with same identical story but older,So..
itsadeadmansparty 5 months ago
@Mikanojo the idea came from what anthonymilessee inside the comments section? you were also a commenter so thats where that came from, nobody is intoxicated, im just pointing out that anthonymilessee statement about mao and hitler and stalin were incorrect, you made comment and i responded to you as well, thats where it came from? sorry you dont understand the comments section
itsadeadmansparty 5 months ago
@Mikanojo its really sad to see many people who just havent studied egyptian culture and its effect on certain religions, my last and closing statement to you, to give you a wake up call is
The Man Who Knew Too Much
A movie by Alfred Hitchcock
A scene starts,
The two main characters follow a man into a church, but before entering the church they talk about a stratagy, and James says"Ohh its a sun worshippers Church" then they both enter Church
Scene shows the Christians Cross Hanging Abov
itsadeadmansparty 5 months ago
@itsadeadmansparty see even hitchcock knew back then, lol
so many movies and tv shows like star trek actually have hidden messages, its just emptying your clouded mind of bs
Star trek also shows how computers can help teach people, and can be used to assist man in his ultimate goals
itsadeadmansparty 5 months ago
@Mikanojo Mikano Listen, I could spend hours on this but im correct, many movies have been made about this connection to Christianity and Egypt K So the two resources i really honestly you at least look into are
watch video 6RrajokEB6M Called Amun-Ra in the bible
K that would help clear the brainwashing part of you, next onto the hard part,explaining where the serious origins of christianity comes from
that task I leave to Jordan Maxwell who clearly using like 8 different fact checked sources
itsadeadmansparty 5 months ago
@Mikanojo The problem Mikanojo is that this is a wakeup call for you, thats why you dont understand any of the things i mentioned, Every single thing i said You can verify yourself, You still should make an attempt to look at root words and where things actually came from, the egyptians existed for 400 thousand years before Juda, this can be proven when you begin to see what exactly the Pyramids allign to, You should also know about the god NETER who is the one and true god,AKA Nature or the one
itsadeadmansparty 5 months ago
@Mikanojo All I can tell you is that you truly havent done any research, its obvious too
the word Chemistry or Chemi, is the name of Egypt
This is where our sciences come from, THe word "ON" comes from the city of light in Egypt aka Heliopolis
Everything you do today originates from the Egyptians, Im sorry nobody woke you up to share this with you,
You know I said DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH, DONT TAKE MY WORD,LOOK IT UP
When you do decide to verify what im saying you will discover its all Egypt
itsadeadmansparty 5 months ago
@Mikanojo Elohim is none other than Cronus, Or you can say EL who is the god of the christians and muslims and even the jews, The story of Abraham and Isaac (Genesis 22) "Take your son, your only son--yes, Isaac, whom you love so much--and go to the land of Moriah. Go and sacrifice him as a burnt offering on one of the mountains, which I will show you."
Because the stupid story is older than both Christians and Jews,Because Eygptians knew the god Saturn
Who are the origins of the Bible
WakeUp
itsadeadmansparty 5 months ago
You equate logic to mythology , and call an Atheist irrational ... I can not say anymore to you since you are at the level of a nematode in a modern society.
sterayd 5 months ago
ludicrous metaphors are not synonymous with logic. Sunburns? Really?
Karemawow 6 months ago
so, a =a , then my penis =a is a = penis so god exists? so god exists then god exists
a = a, if my penis exist then vagina cannot since not penis = vagina then if i have a vagina then god does not exist? that was the basics of your "logic" which i used to disprove god... next!
eatmyshorts2007 6 months ago 3
someone get this guy into a university and learn what real logic is... for SCIENCE sake this non-sense has gotta stop. have you heard of a thing called induction? basics of logic, u dont have to account for every single particle in this universe to prove something. and since we cannot account for everything that has ever happened we cannot disprove god, and sadly that is the ONLY thing theists hold on to...
eatmyshorts2007 6 months ago
@eatmyshorts2007 While the a priori is = is argument is based on a philosophy that claims all things are possible thus all things must exist (denying observation and probability) and so is not actually logic at all - i must correct you on one point you stated that "we cannot disprove god, and sadly that is the ONLY thing theists hold on to.." Theists who actually DO use logic can point out that observation denies random chance creation and so logically there is proof of intelligent design.
Mikanojo 5 months ago
itsadeadmansparty 5 months ago
@eatmyshorts2007 the ratiocination of intelligent design eventually drags in all, theists and non-theists alike.. but into different mental prisons. The theist assumes that intelligent design originates from a deity, but then WHICH deity immediately becomes a question of faith, which is illogical. The non-theist must seek a different excuse.. randomness being disproven, they either use the agnostic " i dunno" shrug or hunt for extraterrestrials, which again is a matter of faith not fact.
Mikanojo 5 months ago
@eatmyshorts2007 Wow you made an awesome comment!
Bravo Bravo lol
lets learn him up k
send him to university lol so funny man
a = a lol god must exist aahhaha
vagina=a lol if penis=a god must exist haha
bro we need more people like you on the internet,
and i think to summerize what anthonymilessee was saying is, since the first cultures on earth used god,fear of god, mechanics of celestial objects came from the sopossed god,and even helped language,anthonymil is his god made all science
itsadeadmansparty 5 months ago
I happened on this thinking it might be an intellectual argument for theism. This is one of the dumbest things I have seen. It is void of fact, and full of baseless claims. I do not desire to debate ignorance. Just wanted to chime in quickly and let you know I have not hurt or ached since accepting the truth and denying the super natural.
tswizzletswift99 6 months ago 2
@tswizzletswift99 : nonsense. just repent and find forgiveness and epistemic consistency.
anthonymilessee 6 months ago
Father Darwin had many sons,
Many sons had father Darwin:
Nietzsche, Hitler, Stalin, Mao.
So say atheists let's kill more now,
Lenin, Castro, Kim, and Kim,
For atheism killed 'bout 100 million.
Atheism doesn't possess an absolute, universal
ground for morals, thus it produces political leaders
who enjoy killing millions for the promotion of atheism.
anthonymilessee 6 months ago
@anthonymilessee OK, so religious fanatics do better political leaders, you say? I don't see G. W. Bush or the Israeli goverment as great saviours of mankind, precisely... I'd rather classify them as those who "enjoy killing millions". Please, reconsider your arguments. You talk a lot about logic as if you knew something about philosophy, but you actually use phalacies constantly.
richicc 6 months ago
@anthonymilessee I disagree, being that religion has divided and conquerored, not rulers, who pharohs,
The main force of evil is religion and money,as they divide and conqueror, the people always voted for a dictator dont you see? they wanted hitler, they wanted mao, but its usually a manufactured choice, since the elite have always been pushing buttons on how to control man, any nationalism or method of dividing people is the problem, i recommend you investigate The Venus Project
itsadeadmansparty 5 months ago
@itsadeadmansparty While men throughout all history have perverted religions into excuses for personal plans, it should be understood that religions did not create the concept of good and evil. Evil is/are selfish acts that harm others. not all selfish acts are evil.. say.. eating the last piece of cake, and causing harm to others while in defense of self or others is not evil, but to steal the last piece of food from a person.. that is evil, even if it is the means to a good end for others.
Mikanojo 5 months ago
@Mikanojo Sorry religion has always been a personal plan, either being a magician to make a living, but everyone prostitutes themselves in this society, thats how we get by
everything you do is letting other use your body for a certain amount of time,
Thats why they call it human resource department, your mearly a resource to them, its compeletely contrary to say the venus project, I recommend you check out a book called The Best that Money Can't Buy, like the word dog tags,theyre used as dog
itsadeadmansparty 5 months ago
@itsadeadmansparty Incorrect on many points.. Religion has always been an attempt to take all that IS known/observed and make educated(?) hopeful theories about the origin of all that exists, and to seek a REASON for existence. Not just how did i come to exist but WHY are we here, is this all there is? Apparently many people who DO prostitute themselves lose perspective of the reality for others who do not - you seem brainwashed by a book - how is that different than a Christian?
Mikanojo 5 months ago
@Mikanojo okay r we talking about the same religion?the christians right?the people who think magical fairies or angels will take care of you no matter what,even if you dont feed your kids,god figure will help u right?btw all humans prostitute themselves to survive, not some but all, its because we are born into slavery,we are living a manufactured landscape! we are not in equalibrium with nature anymore,we keep procreating like there is no tomorrow but there is a tomorrow and its now we screwed
itsadeadmansparty 5 months ago
@Mikanojo okay r we talking about the same religion?the christians right?the people who think magical fairies or angels will take care of you no matter what,even if you dont feed your kids,god figure will help u right?btw all humans prostitute themselves to survive, not some but all, its because we are born into slavery,we are living a manufactured landscape! we are not in equalibrium with nature anymore,we keep procreating like there is no tomorrow but there is a tomorrow and its now we screwed
itsadeadmansparty 5 months ago
@itsadeadmansparty The more you write the more cloudy your thoughts seem to be. The only thing that is becoming more apparent is that you do not understand Christianity in any form, except for possibly as viewed from a great distance through a jaded myopic telescope. It would take many comment spaces just to define the many denominations of Christianity and their differences, but only the lunatic fringe suffer from the delusions you claim. Your concept of Christianity is far from accurate..
Mikanojo 5 months ago
@Mikanojo Michael Jackson - They Don't Really Care About Us
itsadeadmansparty 5 months ago
@Mikanojo aitheists are not the problem and none of the people mentioned above are true athiest, they still thought a creator would save them in the end, they felt they were the men who created religion in the first place which was star worship, funny its called warship- all im saying about the book is look at the title only, see we cant even buy good things because we r sopossed to be consumers only! make shitty products so u have to get two,The venus project is only an approach to today issues
itsadeadmansparty 5 months ago
@itsadeadmansparty I think you need to put down what ever it is you are smoking and consider going outside to get some cleaner air, and i do not mean that as an insult at all - your comment is incoherent and it usually indicates lack of sleep or intoxication.. both conditions that getting away from the toxic substance and getting fresh air in a better environment will help you with. Atheists are NOT a problem and not even the silly video maker tried to claim that. That idea came from YOU.
Mikanojo 5 months ago
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@anthonymilessee I disagree, being that religion has divided and conquerored, not rulers, who pharohs,
The main force of evil is religion and money,as they divide and conqueror, the people always voted for a dictator dont you see? they wanted hitler, they wanted mao, but its usually a manufactured choice, since the elite have always been pushing buttons on how to control man, any nationalism or method of dividing people is the problem, i recommend you investigate The Venus Project
itsadeadmansparty 5 months ago
@itsadeadmansparty sorry but to close i need to point out, i have never actually met a christian i have heard many people say they practice the christian way, but no person in usa is christian,they dont follow the lords prayer or practice what they preach, sorry but its true,see thats why tvp has answers,we gave the religious ones hundreds of years to do what they claim,none ever did
all it did was divide you,gods too big for one religion
if you own a bank account that is usually called usery
itsadeadmansparty 5 months ago
@itsadeadmansparty And before anyone else is twisted into ignorantly accepting more lies as truth.. 'USURY" is NOT owning a bank account, or having savings.. Usury is the crime of overcharging others.. charging too much interest on loans, charging too much for goods and services - basically extortion. With the internet literally at our fingertips, how hard is it to do a bit a research and learn some thing?
Mikanojo 5 months ago
@Mikanojo but you accept interest, therefore, you participate in usery
you could even say that the federal reserve act makes sure all persons create debt and therefore is a slave to bankers and interest which doesnt exist to begin with! thats why you can't debt yourself out of debt, so usery is shaped in people from our culture, but it will slowly change when more computerization occurs, when my point will be proven that we all eventually learn to co-exist in a resource based economy
itsadeadmansparty 5 months ago
@anthonymilessee hey anthony all these mentioned still actually believed in a higher force, people think they were atheist but they were not -, Hitler, Stalin, Mao,Lenin, Castro all believed creationist principles, Hitler even practised all his soldiers in theist belief, hell even the vatican helped the nazi's lol
itsadeadmansparty 5 months ago
the laws of logic are universal, unchanging, and non-physical and the physical only, always changing, non-universal cosmos could not produce them nor account for them, only the God of the Bible is universal, unchanging and has universal power, reach and knowledge to ground the necessary laws of logic.
repent of your alogical anti-theism and come to truth and expiation
anthonymilessee 6 months ago
hey thanks to all the atheist knuckleheads for the kind comments - but b of good cheer all your dopey anti-theistic claims presuppose theism as they must utilize the laws of logic which only God can ground
when u find yourself shaking like a falling leaf in the darkness of your room - remember to repent and trust God
anthonymilessee 6 months ago
Human society is developing a global neuronal system (the internet) and very analogous to an infant growing up, there are various impulses stimulating this global brain, external as well as from within. The ever ongoing debate over our origins will eventually unfold a greater truth beyond our current primitive worldviews, as the global infant approaches adulthood it will get wiser and more capable. What we experience are growing pains, hurts like a bitch but necessary. So live long and prosper;)
quitchiboo 6 months ago
@quitchiboo a=a (any meaning of a word or letter) a ~ non-a (any idea/thing/predication that is not another idea/thing, pred) - these laws are implied and required in every act of thought or assertion or denial
only theism provides the necessary conditions for the possibility of knowledge because some truths ( laws of logic, moral law) r necessary for thought, knowledge, and intelligibility which only theism supplies the a priori essentials for these necessities
anthonymilessee 6 months ago
@anthonymilessee and what exactly are you trying to say here? that you're an theist? good for you mate;) however hypothetically is there a source of knowledge where your personal god got his intelligence from to pass it on to us? maybe we'll understand this better once were fused to an global super-intelligence.
so long.
quitchiboo 6 months ago
I understand why disabled the rating system.
SpazzyMcGee1337 6 months ago