People are such morons these days, the forumla of these "Anti-Video Game" segments on talk shows is always the same thing, they always have the miserable old ignorant fucks in suits that don't know shit about video games talking over and interrupting the intelligent people who actually know what they are talking about and it pisses me off how fucking stupid some of these people are. Just look at the whole "SEXBox" scandal that Fox news did back in 2007. It's a disgrace.
lol. this is practicaly what is going on with SOPA and PIPA, but on a much larger scale (as in alan is the gov, the two old people are congress, and the young guy is us)
It's silly to try an argue 'why games have violence.' Everything that's there: Imagery, dialogue, etc. Is there to provide some context to what the hell's happening. I don't think people (especially people who don't play games) realize that there are complex narratives and themes here for adults. Not everything with the tag video game is written by or intended for a child.
programs/shows invite him on to defend his point (a very credible point) but instead just gang up him. At that point he has already lost, he can't say anything to sway anyone. The whole building is already against him.
What Really irritates me the most is that the audience applaud Julie Peasgood's point. She has no idea what she's talking about. It shows that the show is recorded infront of people over the age of 40-50+ who are used to PONG and Space Invaders.
Video games are only bad for someone if there is an outstanding problem(or is simply uneducated but the uneducated are usuallt children with have age ratings to restict children from getting any thing to violent anyway) already in the person. if you have any common sense, you arnt going to go out shooting in the street.
However this audience is made up of absolute fuckwits who are the average Daily Mail reader who probably think all Muslims supported 9/11 and still hate Germans for World War 2. And honestly they're ruining this already fairly bad country. And they still make up the majority of the population.
Funny you say that - according to her wiki, she wrote a book called The Greatest Sex Tips in the World and was given the Best Sex Writer Award from Scarlet Magazine.
We have joining us, reasonable man with beard, reasonable balding man, and shrill insane woman who a few hours ago was found forraging through our bins.
"Video games promote hatred, racism, sexism". That's true. Tetris is the most hateful piece of entertainment out there, and I've never encountered anything as racist as Pro Evolution Soccer. As for sexism, look no further than Portal. Yes, the protagonist is female, as is GLaDOS, but there's probably lots of sexism in there in secret areas or something - I just haven't discovered them yet.
There has never been any hatred, racism or sexism displayed in any film ever. I rest her case.
"But they're at home!" Good argument Alan. So, to be consistent, if movies could somehow be packaged onto some sort of compact disc or DVD and watched at home you'd be against that too? Oh, wait...
And what is that about "getting into a house" - you make it sound like breaking and entering! Surely you mean "they can find it around the house". But then that could be said of our hypothetical situation in which we've amazingly managed to invent technology for watching films at home.
peasegood is a hypocritical bullshitter, didn't bother to give a name for her study so it could be verified, not because she made it up on the fucking spot of course. kelvin managed to make sentences without any meaning whatsoever, just random words mixed together. liked that ingham had the balls to roll his eyes at the canned mooing and note on air that he was clearly there as a hate figure for the audience.
titchmarsh is such a fucking muppet, he should piss off back out to the gardens.
Damn you Mario and Sonic!!!! HOW DARE YOU PROMOTE HATRED RACISM AND SEXISM!
On a serious note this debate was horrifying to watch. You would think that they would use evidence to back up their claims but its interesting how they ignore the expert and encourage the woman who only reads horror stories about gaming. Love how games are used as a scapegoat for parents who allow their kids to play these kind of games in the first place...
Ive never seen a lot of ignorant assholes in one room in all my life. Meaningless debates like this make me sick. I love video games and I'll be damned if irresponsible parents buy games for the little bastards that the parents dont know SHIT about, ruin the fun for the rest of us. Video games have evolved from "space invaders" which in those days WERE for kids. Now, we have games out that can beat out blockbuster films for adults. You wouldnt let a child see an R movie, but play an M game? Dumb
well first of all, titchmarsh doesnt even know the names of what games he's arguing against, the woman has actually done voice overs for video games, and the grey haired guy used to write porn novels. i mean ffs, why not actually research and get your facts straight on what you f*cking debating. How stupid can these people get?
I don't understand why '15-18 rated games aren't for kids' isn't the end of the conversation :/ All I can think is these people either don't believe what they are arguing and make money off just countering arguments, or they believe their own bullshit so much that they don't take in any information that counters their point, either way they should not be allowed on public debate shows.
@Lasarus29 What they should do is have a forum debate with us REAL gamers, but they wont do that. Reason being is that, no matter what numbers they have, no matter what "stats" or "research" they do, we will counter every point and make them look bad. Gamers are pissed and sick of having their hobby constantly being attacked by ignorance and "ratings". They fight with polls, we fight with facts.
it always comes down to attacking the games industry,video games always take the blame for violence, like the game guy said you can have a violent movie,book, kids can even look up violent stuff on the net, games are given ratings just like films its up to the parents to make sure their children arent playing these games,im sure the 360 and ps3 have settings that wont even let you play some games depending on what age rating you set it at
I just can't watch this. Where, exactly, is this study of "thousands of gamers"? How did they determine "more aggressive"? And the lady and the old guy continually ignore the video game guy's comparing games to movies in terms of ratings.
that woman is a baised bitch rattling off various bits of unproven bullshit the balding man is allright seems to be moderatly intelligent the host is a bit dumber gets on my nerves a tad and oh fuck it i cant be botherd to point out all the flaws in these dumb things anymore im too tired of listening to these idiots
The woman actually used to do voice overs for playboy tv.
just sayin'
056LA 1 week ago
People are such morons these days, the forumla of these "Anti-Video Game" segments on talk shows is always the same thing, they always have the miserable old ignorant fucks in suits that don't know shit about video games talking over and interrupting the intelligent people who actually know what they are talking about and it pisses me off how fucking stupid some of these people are. Just look at the whole "SEXBox" scandal that Fox news did back in 2007. It's a disgrace.
dragonforks93 1 month ago
that woman knows absolutely nothing - the guy knows what he is talking about
redduck200 1 month ago
not children
redduck200 1 month ago
I'm sorry, but who even likes this?
poppin7581 1 month ago
lol, just lol. Ignorant woman, and very naive.
lullylewj 1 month ago
lol. this is practicaly what is going on with SOPA and PIPA, but on a much larger scale (as in alan is the gov, the two old people are congress, and the young guy is us)
rjc0234 1 month ago
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TheBarko96 1 month ago
I bet Julie doesn't go home and read about rainbows and Teddy bears all day (or maybe she does).
TheAcenck 2 months ago
It's silly to try an argue 'why games have violence.' Everything that's there: Imagery, dialogue, etc. Is there to provide some context to what the hell's happening. I don't think people (especially people who don't play games) realize that there are complex narratives and themes here for adults. Not everything with the tag video game is written by or intended for a child.
TheAcenck 2 months ago
programs/shows invite him on to defend his point (a very credible point) but instead just gang up him. At that point he has already lost, he can't say anything to sway anyone. The whole building is already against him.
TheAcenck 2 months ago
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What Really irritates me the most is that the audience applaud Julie Peasgood's point. She has no idea what she's talking about. It shows that the show is recorded infront of people over the age of 40-50+ who are used to PONG and Space Invaders.
jkerr91 3 months ago
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jkerr91 3 months ago
hahaha. ik moet dit kijken voor Engels :p
Stijn11050 3 months ago
@Stijn11050 ik ook XD
denhenk23897 1 month ago
Alan Titchmarsh listens to Rap music and then kills puppies
MikeHuntagape 4 months ago 3
I'm a pacifist. Work that out.
EDIBLEFRIDGE 4 months ago
I hate it when people who've never even picked up a controller try to argue about games. I'm on the fuzzy guy's side in this.
LeeAnnOfAlderaan 5 months ago
Video games are only bad for someone if there is an outstanding problem(or is simply uneducated but the uneducated are usuallt children with have age ratings to restict children from getting any thing to violent anyway) already in the person. if you have any common sense, you arnt going to go out shooting in the street.
96Reddevils 5 months ago
This reminds me of Fox News...
786Puffy 6 months ago
Real clever audience,
Boo the intelligent guy and cheer on the one you've seen on your TV before.
Smart.
TheoneandonlyPym 6 months ago
This bearded man is an absolute bro.
However this audience is made up of absolute fuckwits who are the average Daily Mail reader who probably think all Muslims supported 9/11 and still hate Germans for World War 2. And honestly they're ruining this already fairly bad country. And they still make up the majority of the population.
Fuck the current state of Britain.
liam1060 7 months ago 4
@liam1060 Nah, well not here atleast, no idea where you live, but it does sound pretty shit.
oopsIdidasuper 7 months ago
all of my hurt
mcshmeggy 7 months ago
"Call of Duty 2: Modern Warfare"
amazing
Michael98760 7 months ago 6
That woman needs a good fuck. Then all will be well.
TheHairybean 7 months ago
@TheHairybean
Funny you say that - according to her wiki, she wrote a book called The Greatest Sex Tips in the World and was given the Best Sex Writer Award from Scarlet Magazine.
bilalsheikh 4 months ago
Well Titchmarsh has always been a fawning cretin, and viewing figures for his show were terrible, so it isn't worth getting annoyed about tbh
furQ 8 months ago
We have joining us, reasonable man with beard, reasonable balding man, and shrill insane woman who a few hours ago was found forraging through our bins.
jeloopa 8 months ago 4
"i am categorically against violence for entertainment" well thats films and books you just slandered too then...
Mrchagrilled 8 months ago
Every single time I watch this I just feel disgusted. Video Games don't make me violent Julie Peasgood, you and your backwards views do.
TheHaffMeister 9 months ago
"Video games promote hatred, racism, sexism". That's true. Tetris is the most hateful piece of entertainment out there, and I've never encountered anything as racist as Pro Evolution Soccer. As for sexism, look no further than Portal. Yes, the protagonist is female, as is GLaDOS, but there's probably lots of sexism in there in secret areas or something - I just haven't discovered them yet.
There has never been any hatred, racism or sexism displayed in any film ever. I rest her case.
Slossius1983 9 months ago 3
@Slossius1983 I completely agree look at all of the drug and sex references in little big planet awful
kubrickstan1996 9 months ago
"But they're at home!" Good argument Alan. So, to be consistent, if movies could somehow be packaged onto some sort of compact disc or DVD and watched at home you'd be against that too? Oh, wait...
And what is that about "getting into a house" - you make it sound like breaking and entering! Surely you mean "they can find it around the house". But then that could be said of our hypothetical situation in which we've amazingly managed to invent technology for watching films at home.
Slossius1983 9 months ago
They reward violence.... .WOOHOO TACTICAL NUKE!!!!!
TheFowlingGenius 9 months ago
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This woman is a fucking MORON! YOU KNOW NOTHING YOU FUCKING IGNORANT CUNT!
LiamYoshiLloyd 9 months ago
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Gaming needs a Nick Naylor of its own to deal with quote-unquote people like these.
Potidaon 9 months ago
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Potidaon 9 months ago
1:21 was around the moment the pro-logic guy realised he was talking to an idiot.
Oscy 9 months ago
Oh the IRONY! This hysterical bimbo was found to have provided voice acting work to a shitty forgotten computer game of the 90s and guess what...
it was violent!
Where was her moral outrage when she was collecting her paycheque?
Scousejournalist 1 year ago 3
peasegood is a hypocritical bullshitter, didn't bother to give a name for her study so it could be verified, not because she made it up on the fucking spot of course. kelvin managed to make sentences without any meaning whatsoever, just random words mixed together. liked that ingham had the balls to roll his eyes at the canned mooing and note on air that he was clearly there as a hate figure for the audience.
titchmarsh is such a fucking muppet, he should piss off back out to the gardens.
milkkart 1 year ago
Damn you Mario and Sonic!!!! HOW DARE YOU PROMOTE HATRED RACISM AND SEXISM!
On a serious note this debate was horrifying to watch. You would think that they would use evidence to back up their claims but its interesting how they ignore the expert and encourage the woman who only reads horror stories about gaming. Love how games are used as a scapegoat for parents who allow their kids to play these kind of games in the first place...
GamingFansCentral 1 year ago
That was horrificly biased, illogical and plain unfair.
Deadcode000 1 year ago
Shut up Julie and Kelvin you uninformed overrated morons and stick to what you know...which is clearly nothing!
autosmash 1 year ago
Ive never seen a lot of ignorant assholes in one room in all my life. Meaningless debates like this make me sick. I love video games and I'll be damned if irresponsible parents buy games for the little bastards that the parents dont know SHIT about, ruin the fun for the rest of us. Video games have evolved from "space invaders" which in those days WERE for kids. Now, we have games out that can beat out blockbuster films for adults. You wouldnt let a child see an R movie, but play an M game? Dumb
hentaikage 1 year ago
well first of all, titchmarsh doesnt even know the names of what games he's arguing against, the woman has actually done voice overs for video games, and the grey haired guy used to write porn novels. i mean ffs, why not actually research and get your facts straight on what you f*cking debating. How stupid can these people get?
056LA 1 year ago
That lady needs to get that joystick out of her ass.
If she shouldnt be sitting there "fighting" against games.
Go google her to see what i mean D:
Filecreator 1 year ago
I don't understand why '15-18 rated games aren't for kids' isn't the end of the conversation :/ All I can think is these people either don't believe what they are arguing and make money off just countering arguments, or they believe their own bullshit so much that they don't take in any information that counters their point, either way they should not be allowed on public debate shows.
Lasarus29 1 year ago
@Lasarus29 What they should do is have a forum debate with us REAL gamers, but they wont do that. Reason being is that, no matter what numbers they have, no matter what "stats" or "research" they do, we will counter every point and make them look bad. Gamers are pissed and sick of having their hobby constantly being attacked by ignorance and "ratings". They fight with polls, we fight with facts.
hentaikage 1 year ago
and then they say the average age of playing video games is 33 lol
bravotwozero007 1 year ago
it always comes down to attacking the games industry,video games always take the blame for violence, like the game guy said you can have a violent movie,book, kids can even look up violent stuff on the net, games are given ratings just like films its up to the parents to make sure their children arent playing these games,im sure the 360 and ps3 have settings that wont even let you play some games depending on what age rating you set it at
bravotwozero007 1 year ago
I feel sorry for that poor computer games guy.
Mirdiniable 1 year ago
that was fucking retarded.
RecreationalCarrot 1 year ago
I just can't watch this. Where, exactly, is this study of "thousands of gamers"? How did they determine "more aggressive"? And the lady and the old guy continually ignore the video game guy's comparing games to movies in terms of ratings.
fuzzyevil2 1 year ago
Oh lawd.
xXJerryTerryXx 1 year ago
there is a reason why there is an age rating
IF YOU DONT LIKE VIOLENT GAMES FOR YOUR KIDS, DONT BUY THEM FOR YOUR KIDS
gibsdsid 1 year ago 16
that woman is a baised bitch rattling off various bits of unproven bullshit the balding man is allright seems to be moderatly intelligent the host is a bit dumber gets on my nerves a tad and oh fuck it i cant be botherd to point out all the flaws in these dumb things anymore im too tired of listening to these idiots
Mrinconn 1 year ago 16
RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE
Khaosity1 1 year ago