Savate défense - Techniques de base

[karur]

Belle démonstration technique !

[oldsgtmajusmc]

excellent vidio thanks oldsgtmajusmc in clarksville tn usa



[NontelegraphicFist]

Very well

[koan001]

peut on savoir où vous donnez les cours? Je suis de paris...

[Smelldark27]

Kung Fu is better

[MrDiablar]

Trop bien ! je crois que je vais m'y lancer

[Krelus]

As per the JKD motto of "Absorb what's useful," I'm definitely gonna spend some time practicing that prone stance. Also, that one "uppercut to the armpit -> punch to the face" combo is really nice... Simple and effective. Great video.

[heatemysoul]

I practiced Taekwondo for 6 yrs and Savate for only 1 yr :( Both are very different styles but I have to say I enjoyed Savate so much more.... sadly my Savate instructor moved to a different city .... no more training ''(

[suliwen1]

Juste dommage qu'il y ait cette combinaison moulante qui ne rend pas classe... Cependant c'est sympa!

[danbau08]

This is good a lot better than often seen on yt Fairly reasonable & realistic ideas/scenarios.Theres always some one that says its "not quite right" or"its useless",always acting like they are the authority on common sense.Nitpicking fault finding fk'n bullshit Some one throws a high kick in this case-an aspect of savate that has always been there-and its a tizzy "that wouldn't work"its not responsible" "an old lady couldn't do that"- No shit."Its JKD""its MT"NO it isn't! Gets on my f*#@n nerves

[sonoflurch]

good kicks, i have to say, just add english boxing with this, and you are gonna be pretty good at defending yourself

[aiyer1989]

@sonoflurch The boxing in savate comes from English boxing actually.

[drMerkwuerdigliebe]

Looks really good. But NEVER headbutt that way.

[drjuste]

I predict, in Tekken 7 there's going to be a savate fighter.

[kaze288]

@drjuste tekken 6 has one, miguel caballero rojo

[drjuste]

@kaze288 Him!?!?!?! I thought it was a savage style of fighting. Is Miguel french?

[kaze288]

@drjuste savage style? that's not exist xD

[Ezek1234]

Savate in its original(street) form included knees elbows and even head butts, those technics have been forbidden for competition, we can find them again through savate défense

[oliv0808]

comme ça fait bizarre et en même temps plaisir de revoir 2 de ses anciens instructeurs sur une vidéo!!!

[saiyinfox]

Must be adapted Savate. Traditional Savate does not contain any kicks using knees or shins.

[FaMas1911]

@saiyinfox

This isn't traditional Savate. It's called Savate Defense.

[saiyinfox]

Ah! Thanks a lot for the info

[megasayajinsongoku99]

@FaMas1911 Why say you that this is not traditional Savate? I think this is Savate de Rue , the traditonal style of Savate for the street , not only the sport Savate.

[gabbomushy]

why are they wearing prison like clothing??

[ludo2433]

En vrai dans un club de boxe française savate on n'apprend pas vraiment ca en cour... Vous allez apprendre 2 ou 3 truc de self défense à moins de faire des stages de self défense savate (il y en a plusieurs chaque année à 10euros la journée...) si non la boxe française en niveau compétiteur est très bien pour se défendre :-)

[RappazPure]

Le savate et le kickboxing ne sont pas les memes. En actualite le savate est une vrai discipline ancienne francaise, mais le kickboxing est un melange qui ne vienne pas d'un seul paye.

[gounet87]

moi je tate a m'y mettre... quelqu'un en fait? j'ai un club a coter de chez moi, j'hesite..

[exorcist170383]

C'est vraiment sympa, ça donne envie de s'y mettre!

[djdt1988]

looks like a combo of wing chun and boxing

[djtyg]

Their kicks are very well done. It looks different from Karate, even though the techniques are similar. It looks like they place more emphasis on speed than brute power. Very impressive.

[tearo]

KARATE IS GAY!

[LightxKira5643]

Fight a real karate fighter and they'll kick your ass, but american karate is very gay.

[tearo]

Very true. But I still don't like the Karate style itself. I can admit a Karateka can easily defeat me though, but I still won't like the style.

[LightxKira5643]

Well you must not go to a very good karate class, Karate is a punching martial art with less emphasis on kicks.

[Orgendorfer]

I didn't know much about savate, but i like what I'm seeing here. but I believe knees arent alowed in savate??

[LeonCupra83]

in Savate Defense knees are allowed! In Savate combat, assault or precombat it's not allowed.

[roadrunnerbeepbeep83]

nice

[steve0281]

Exceedingly clean technique.

[strikesubmit]

absolutely. great video

[neocool77]

espectacular disiplina pero estos tipo como todos los franceces tiene algo especial

asi lo an demos trado con el parkour y el savate

[TTok33]

0:54-0:55 right uppercut, left jab, right overhand - really good combo. one of my favorite :-)

the only thing he's not doing quite right is that the leg work. you can't do it against a descent fighter from a static stance. gotta work on your legs, dude!

[kaiserbatch]

cojonudo

[dosplanetas]

ah, y me olvidaba. Savat significa: savat-ragar toda la leche

[dosplanetas]

que no se gaste el de calzas, es homosexual de todas maneras

[hugostyles]

Look alot like Taekwon-do (ITF) the kicks, and some of the self defense stuff, also like Kickboxing

[1Jedthered]

the kicks were taken from Asia by sailors and combined with English puglism

[steve0281]

That is incorrect. There is absolutely no evidence that this was the case. There are a number of Savate techniques that are (or were) unique to Savate and unknown in Asia until the twentieth century. Check BB Magazine June 1987 article.

[1Jedthered]

I don't know if that publication is the most credible source, but thanks for clearing things up.

Have you ever noticed how Bruce Lee was influenced by savate? I was watching some matches on youtube and noticed the resemblance.

[steve0281]

BL was big into Savate and thought that its kicking technique was superior.

As for the BB article, you will have to excuse me for blowing my own horn as I wrote it. There is some information in it that is just plain wrong but I thought was correct at the time. Still, there is no evidence that the French learned anything from Asia as far as technique goes.

[1Jedthered]

I don't know where I read that. Some TKD guy probably edited the wiki.

I was thinking more about how BL closed distance and moved. It's amazing to discover how much of his techniques was western.

[steve0281]

BL loved western wrestling and boxing. He patterned much of his movement on Ali and would watch films of him in a mirror as BL fought with his right forward.

[sombras1981]

me encanta

[diceniceable]

At Derukugi2, depends on the karate style, but shotokan karate is very slow and inmobile and you crouch at many ttechniques, savate is on the other hand very mobile and fast, so karate would lose against this, if the opponents were a complete match physiclly and mentally, the style is important but the users quality is important to.

[119Elias119]

Wow this is awesome... Apart from a few techniques and the high kicking, this looks a lot like Krav Maga, especially with all the wrist control.

Wouldn't wanna mess with these guys...

[Cenamark2]

This can't be of French origin. The French don't make martial arts, just surrender arts.

[bert666666]

I agree! But it can't be american either: americans do defense without attack, and are usually 50 against each supposed offender. If they're 49, they call for help or threaten to nuke everybody.

[xanac]

You have not enough of your life to learn all our history so, please shud up.

[Cenamark2]

You have not enough of your life to learn all my language so, please shud up.

[TADahar]

Hahahah...

[wildreams]

And Savate have really interesting sense of balance, like they can lean their body in a way not seen in most martial arts but still maintain their balance.

And they are very fast at the same time too.

[wildreams]

i thought knees are disallowed?

[KillerSalmon]

This is Savate-Defense, not Boxe-Francaise.  Boxe-Francaise is the sport, Savate-Defense is the self-defense art.

[sombras1981]

this techniques looks very effective...

[crypter27]

Savate is a truely western martial art!

[Derukugi2]

How does Savate compare to Karate?

[pugilistica]

There is Savate Defence (Savate for the Street) and Savate Boxe (Sport Savate), so don't confuse the two. (Same as in Sambo, you have Sambo Wrestling and Combat Sambo.) As for learning anything from a video: It depends on the quality of the video, and the quality of instruction on the video. Nothing beats training under a good instructor in the flesh, so to speak.

[RexBaselio]

Combat Sambo is still a sport competitor discipline.

Military Sambo on the other hand is more for the Street.

You also have Police Sambo ...

[weslley240240]

uma mistura estranha!!!!!...

capoeira,com muay thai, etc ...

[brasajuninho]

o savate e interessante......

[JamesEarlCash]

This is actually savate ;) Not sport one, but it is.

[looneyfarm]

these are only the *basic* techniques?? damn!

[fabbietto91]

this is not savate...!!!

[Aenimus84]

Wait, I thought kneeing wasn't allowed in savate...

[SoundwaveSuperior373]

i think this is teh street fighting version savate after all came form street fighting

[MDIS]

In actual fact ; Savate known for its devastating low/midsection kicks. Trust me , if you had been kicked in the head with a pair of authentic hard core trained professional savateur boots, u would think twice as well.

The low roundhouses , the bullet stomping kicks to the kness / thighs and shin are really disabling. If that does not impress you , they can actually hit you faster with more kicks and mostly with acurate precision. If that does not help, the boxing skills are not bad either.

[Bonescythe]

And this is savate de rue, a more reality based, and the original, version.Alot of English schools call it defense savate for some reason

[ELPEPE350]

hola, por favor podrian poner subtitulos en español

[martialartsgod13]

how effective is savate

[SalolthWeaver]

Fairly effective, but as with all martial arts, its more on the talent of the practitioner than the stile, but Savate is praised for its kicks that disable and are lightning fast and accurate. If you have no balance than English boxing is more for you than French boxing.

[stray88]

Except for that whole finesse thing.

[DieHardCanuxFan]

savate looks like a combination of kung fu, kickboxing, and muay thai... cool martial art but there isn't really anything special about it. Nothing I haven't seen in the octagon nowadays... Last thing, what up with the logo or picture in the beginning and the end of the video? lol

[Petrifilms]

in savate you wear boots when you fight...there is that special enough? XD

[darrellriv]

is there anything special about any art though?bottom line is that every style out there has punching,kicking and grappling,they may differ slightly in how they are executed,but the aim is pretty much the same all across the board,there is nothing new under the sun.

[pugilistica]

Although I practice and teach Savate, I'd hardly call this video 'basic defence'. Kicking much above the knees in the street is a very high-risk strategy. Defending oneself is the right of every citizen, not just young, highly-trained and athletic males. For me, to rate as 'effective self defence', the 'techniques' should be do-able by anyone, in an extremely stressful situation, and who has had the minimal amount of training. Anything complicated or high-risk is very likely to fail.

[tapirdrummer]

may i ask a question? besides that one. is it possible to teach yourself savate by just going off a review of various videos and such?

[Contevent]

@pugilistica Beeing able to survive without particular training is a myth, I would say. Any kind of defence must be taught, assimilate and practiced regulary to be effective in a stressful situation.

Besides, no technics are universal, one should be adapt to the technic (because of his natural strengh, agility, his size, the gender etc...).

However, I would agree on the fact that it doesn't look so basic to me neither. Maybe It just because they're good at it.

[pugilistica]

@Contevent Effective self-defence should be available to all, not just the fittest and strongest. Or are you saying that a 60 year old woman, for example, is not worthy of defending herself? The idea of throwing a head kick to someone's head (unless of course they are already laying on the ground) is absurd. The higher your leg goes up the more exposed your groin becomes, and there is a greater chance of your leg being grabbed or, indeed, your other foot slipping out from under you.

[Contevent]

@pugilistica That's why you must train, to know when to do the move without beeing exposed. Every move have a weakness, the trick is to know when and where it is not dangerous to do it.

And an old woman is maybe worthy of defending herself, however, maybe she is not able to do it with martial art. In which case, maybe some weapon could be more effective. (That's many maybe...)

As I said, one should adapt to the mean of defence to find the one he or she feel the more confortable.

[pugilistica]

@Contevent We look at things from a different perspective as we get older. I have been teaching martial arts and self-defence for over 30 years. You?

[Contevent]

@pugilistica Nothing about martial art.

But what does it have to do with our problem?

[pugilistica]

@Contevent Perspective, knowledge, experience and understanding.

[Contevent]

@pugilistica Perspective: Isn't it the point of a discution? Does it mean that I am wrong by definition?

Knowledge: I do have a theorical knowledge of how things works, and I've studied many martial arts trough questions and interviews.

Experience: Indeed, but that's not an argument. Use your experience to tell me where I'm wrong.

Understanding: Like Sherlock Holmes said "Data data data, I can't make wall without clay!"

[pugilistica]

@Contevent Forgive me, I didn't mean to imply that you were wrong by definition. Perspective is something that changes (like just about everything else) as you get older. My knowledge and experience of martial arts technique comes from having trained in them for the last 37 years straight, and have applied many of them realistic situations. My initial point was that high kicks look good in films and in the gym, but are not really viable for most people in real life.

[Contevent]

@pugilistica Well, having thought about it some more, I would say that you're, in the end, quite right (Argh! My ego.. it hurts!). However, I kinda have to say that this is not the best video about the self-defence capabilities of Savate.

I heard of the "Canne de combat", one other way of Savate, that could be quite efficient, without using too much strengh or agility. And it works with umbrellas.

[OrlyDudeGuy]

@pugilistica I train in martial arts, I do believe that simple, defensive techniques is all we need out there in the streets. No need to do flashy things due to high risk, like you say.

[AlexLococo]

@pugilistica I agree with you at almost everything you state, however, I do believe a highly-trained athlete can do this and use it as a useful self-defence system. However, the less time you take to perform an action is more likely to save your life, specially if you're tired or not athletic enough. So yeah, I agree with you.

[AlexLococo]

@pugilistica Don't know why you deleted your comment, but I agree with you again.

[brucew22]

I think it different in that savate uses much more footwork and combinations than muay thai does. Also, they have really integrated the boxing combinations with the feet, much more so than other kickboxing styles. The fast, fluid combos and evasive footwork make it very unique. Also, it is a shoe art, so they use the point of the shoe to kick, which also makes it very unique. Try getting kicked with the point of the shoe in the liver, kidney, sternum, or the temple.

[pugilistica]

All parts of the shoe are used. In thrusting kicks, for example, the heel can also be used to devastating effect.

[brucew22]

yeah but that isn't much different that getting kicked with a bare heel, that is why I didn't bother mentioning it. I train with Nicolas Saignac, former French cup champion.

[pugilistica]

The proper French Savate boots have a hard plastic sole. The heels on those are much harder than a bare foot, even on old boots. The French team are also sponsored by Rivat, which means that they get new boots for every competition.

[brucew22]

you talk like I have never seen savate shoes before....

[pugilistica]

Apologies for the assumption. I was basing what I wrote on you saying that "...it isn't much different that [sic] getting kicked with a bare heel..." Which to my mind and experience it is quite different. Apologies again.

[qsd11]

the logo in the beginning is logo of "fédération de boxe française savate & disciplines associées"

c'est à dire "french boxing" on this video you have "savatedéfense" it's a form of self defense. The "real" boxe française is only whith foot and fist.boxe pied poing

[FractalBolt]

This looks very nice

[Stryke1990]

finaly i saw a cool european martial art. the techniques are pretty close to praying mantis kung fu

[Maximodecio]

good tecnique !!!

nice video!!

[Iori400]

judging by the style, savate seems to be a pretty calm but cool style with alot of fancy footwork..

I think i should give this martial art a try

[mrpopenfresh]

This looks like savate de rue, wich is the dirty version of savate. Usually theres no knees or headbutts. I think they stopped shin kicks too.

[lucasguitarrist]

that was exactly what i was going to say... Streetlike savate, nothing to do with the real deal

[RebelOnyx]

Nice One on 0:54!!

[crypter27]

Its a French,martial art & I think its,pretty cool!

[durs313]

i would really like to see some savateurs in MMA--theyd bring some new sets of techniques to the cage/ring, and make it more interesting.

[moonmoomin]

I would not like to see a watered down "savate defense".

MMA has too many rules, I doubt savate would bring anything new. In MMA they don't even wear shoes so what's the point.

It would be just like when some wristlocks from many disciples(aikido, ninjutsu, jujutsu) can't be used and then the MMA guys can say those are bad sports. In reality they have lots of techniques that can't be used in MMA.

[moonmoomin]

The main thing an MMA guy can take from savate(kickboxing version) is the movement and precision in kicks. Check out Savate vs Muay thai. There are 2 videos and you know what I mean. Most MMA guys take only muay thai lessons, but they should learn to move more and khave more combos and then back away. In MT people just stand around and absorb all the kicks.

[AceKarsen]

In UFC1, a barefoot Savate champion went to the final round, flattenning a sumo and a kickboxer, both whom outweighed him. He also gave Royce Gracie the closest thing to a challenge he had before he met Kimo.

[jessevoidable]

Gerard Gordeau. Savateur and Kyokushin karateka.

[shaolintemplemonk]

in early ufc there was a savateur alright.

[arklimbe]

et de plus en combat. (d'experience) je peux dire noir sur blanc que attraper un poignet c'est quaziment IMPOSSIBLE

[arklimbe]

nimporte koi la savate en selfe defence..

putain mais merde arreté de rever un coup de pied en survie sa vo rien c'est beaucoup trop dangeureux pour l'equilibre une jambe c'est telement facile a enveloper puis il ne reste plus qu'a balleyer l'otre jambes et a mettre le mec au sol ou a enchainer des patates en baladant le gars a une jambe.. allors imaginez si l'agresseur porte un couteaux :D

[moonmoomin]

MMA is for pussies. Savate had headbutts and eyecauging. In savate there are no rules.

[durs313]

looks alot like Jun-Fan Jeet Kune Do--which i know Savate was an integral part of

[iacisnesol]

me gusto este estilo¡¡¡¡ 5 stars

[fletxas]

niceeee......:)

[starfish258852]

interesantes movimientos y sitios en donde son vitales

[viciotron]

Excellent!

[legrandjovialiste]

utilisation des genoux, c tout sauf de la savate

[martialartsvideo]

C'est en effet de la "Savate défense"

[jantkerst]

BUEN VIDEO!!!!!

[aportanelli]

qu'est ce que c'est que ca jamais fait ca en cours de savate moi :|

[rojocorsa]

merci

[turton22]

I thought that elbows and knees were not legal in savate

[Kyle359]

In the ring, no, but this isn't competition Savate, it's self-defence.

[GambleD13]

Sport Savate which is unfortunately the best known Savate doesn't use Elbows and Knees, the reasoning being, its a sport why kill the other guy. But real Savate known today a Savate Defense uses Shins, Knees, Elbows, Headbutts, Sweeps, and Takedowns.

[trinisexgod]

Spandex is his weapon of mass distraction! Ha, ha.

[zarroncello]

i hope it don't happened to you to fight to someone who does savate!for youre healt

[trinisexgod]

Hey, the spandex itself is a weapon - of mass distraction - especially against a gay opponent, ha ha.

[trinisexgod]

I like the spandex!

[danplasma]

Savate is effective, underrated and lethal. But what's up with those god-awful spandex leotards?????lol

[MOVIERAVER]

I would speculate that it would be impossible to hide any weapons being clad in the leotards thus making the fight a fair one or the leotard could be used to help demonstrate the artistic, precise nature of savate

[masterkershaw]

looks like anyother martial art, too many martial arts around these days, unless the style is dramaticaly different just call it the same thing

[Mushu72]

savate is an old french form of boxing. already popular before the eastern way of fighting made it to the west. similar to the german pole & stick fighting arts people have forgotten about their own arts.

[GambleD13]

Savatae has been around literally hundreds of years, almost 3 I think. And it has its roots in even older French Arts like Chausson, which in return have its roots in much older European Arts going all the way back to Pangration which is probably the oldest Martial Art known in the world today, used earliear than 500 B.C.

That said, this Art is different in that it uses boots which enable toe kicks and heel kicks more effectively.

[caiocollalto]

The oldest Martial Art is for sure Kung Fu and it's predecessors, no doubt about it. Before that, fight could not be exactly described as a Martial Art.

[kami97kaze]

I love the foot drag technique.

[danmarino1970]

very nicely done.. realistic. bravo

[basa13]

super video de self

[cosmos645]

Excellent video, nice techniques.